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This is the story of popular entertainment... | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
..from the music-hall era of the 19th century... | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
Don't you know Mrs Kelly? | 0:00:08 | 0:00:10 | |
..through the golden age of variety... | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
..to the working men's clubs of the 1950s. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
I love it! | 0:00:16 | 0:00:17 | |
I'm Frank Skinner, a comedian. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
And I'm Suzy Klein, a music presenter. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
Together, we plan to celebrate our rich entertainment heritage | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
by finding out all we can about the great acts of the past | 0:00:27 | 0:00:31 | |
and, yes, by having a go ourselves. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
It's harder than it looks. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
So, join us now, as we go back to a time when | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
Britain really did have talent. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
Entertainment first burst on to our TV screens in 1955. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:03 | |
It was a watershed moment and, as a nation, we haven't looked back, | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
but how did we get there? | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
Our story starts in the emerging world of 19th-century music hall. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:15 | |
The music hall would come to dominate 19th-century entertainment, | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
turning stage performers into household names. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
And to understand a bit more about what it was like for entertainers | 0:01:25 | 0:01:29 | |
and audiences back then, Suzy and I are going to get | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
under the skin of two of the biggest stars of the day. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
I want to find out how a woman like Marie Lloyd battled her way | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
through a male-dominated industry to be crowned queen of music hall. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:45 | |
# If it satisfies their desires... # | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
And I'm going to find out about eccentric comedian Dan Leno, | 0:01:48 | 0:01:52 | |
who many call the grandfather of stand-up. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
But the entertainment industry that made them famous | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
had a far-from-glamorous birth. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
It's a world with murky beginnings, | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
in the underground basements of 1840s London. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
All that you shall hear Enacted in this humble hall | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
'Tis the true tale As you shall hear | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
Of poor Maria Marten's fall | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
And though we fill you full of... | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
The 19th century was a boom time in popular entertainment. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
After the Industrial Revolution, workers flooded into the towns | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
and cities and, after a hard day's graft, they wanted a great night out. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
Think of 19th-century popular entertainment | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
and you think of music hall. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
There was a lot more going on than just that. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
At the start of the 19th century, Britain had become a powerful | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
mercantile nation and was expanding its empire. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:49 | |
And back home, the British stage offered | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
some of the finest entertainment in Europe. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
# Let me entertain you! # | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
But in the early 1800s, the Industrial Revolution took hold | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
and Britain's urban populations tripled overnight. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
Entertainment venues popped up in all kinds of places | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
to meet the demands of new audiences. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
Oooh! | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
At the bottom of the social ladder were the penny gaffs. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:24 | |
Often no more than a makeshift stage in a shop basement, | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
they offered home-made entertainment to a local clientele | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
of costermongers and factory workers, all for a penny. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
Bloodthirsty melodramas and crude songs about real-life murders | 0:03:36 | 0:03:41 | |
were all the rage at the gaff, | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
including a newly written 1840s horror story, Sweeney Todd. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:48 | |
Mmm, mmm, mmm... | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
Loads of gravy! | 0:03:52 | 0:03:53 | |
Oh! | 0:03:55 | 0:03:56 | |
How did a button come into a pie? | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
If working-class people needed a break from the penny gaffs, | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
they could go to saloon theatres, like the Britannia Theatre in Hoxton. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:09 | |
Oh. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:11 | |
It used to be here. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:14 | |
Oh, no, look, it DID used to be here. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
Charles Dickens visited the Britannia Saloon. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
This is what he wrote, "Among the audience were a large | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
"number of boys and youths and a great many very young girls, | 0:04:24 | 0:04:28 | |
"grown into bold women before they had well ceased to be children. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
"These last were the worst features of the whole crowd | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
"and were more prominent there than in any other sort of | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
"public assembly that we know of, except at a public execution." | 0:04:39 | 0:04:43 | |
My kind of crowd! | 0:04:45 | 0:04:46 | |
If you were a bit more posh, | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
you could go to a song and supper room, which, | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
by the early 19th century, had become known for their celebrity singers. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
Sadly, all the song and supper rooms have long gone | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
so instead, I'm off to the local gastropub, | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
where Michael Kilgarriff is waiting to tell me all about them. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:09 | |
-Michael. -Frank. Hello. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
-Good to see you. -How are you? All right. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
These were really for the men about town, | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
-so they were a little grand, quite grand. -OK. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
That was the audience, the entertainment wasn't so grand. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
It was said that it "appealed to the most depraved propensities, | 0:05:24 | 0:05:28 | |
"and whenever there was a burst of unwanted enthusiasm, | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
"you can be certain that some genius of the place had soared | 0:05:32 | 0:05:36 | |
"to a happy combination of indecency with blasphemy." | 0:05:36 | 0:05:41 | |
And the kind of songs... Well, I'll give you some titles. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
There's No Shove Like The First Shove. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
He Did It Before My Eyes. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
And one that still baffles me, | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
called The Friar's Candle. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
Make of that what you will. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
They were all male, of course, the audiences. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
-OK, so it was a gentleman's club. -It was a gentleman's club, yes. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
-The entertainment was... -Was pretty saucy. -..not refined. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:07 | |
Pretty raunchy, yes. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
And also, it was very late, you see. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
They were called supper clubs, so the entertainment wouldn't start | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
until after the theatre or the opera had turned out. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
Were they rough and raucous crowds? | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
If you can imagine a stag night, | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
I mean, everybody was on stag nights, the way they behaved there. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
-It was a stag night every night. -Every night, yes. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
One of the biggest hits of the song and supper rooms | 0:06:32 | 0:06:34 | |
was Sam Cowell's song, The Ratcatcher's Daughter. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:38 | |
IN COCKNEY ACCENT: Ladies and gentlemen, attend ye the tale | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
of the poor ratcatcher's daughter. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
# Not long ago in Vestminster there lived a ratcatcher's daughter | 0:06:50 | 0:06:56 | |
# But she didn't quite live in Vestminster | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
# Cos she lived t'other side of the water | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
# Her father caught rats | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
# And she sold sprats all around and about that quarter | 0:07:05 | 0:07:10 | |
# And the gentle folks all took off their hats | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
# To the pretty little ratcatcher's daughter | 0:07:14 | 0:07:18 | |
# Doodle-dee, doodle-dum | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
# Dum dim-dum doodle-da. # | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
HE REPEATS THE PHRASE ON THE PIANO | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
Oh, yes. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
Always repeat for the audience. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
So, I think what we've probably got here | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
is some authentic Cockney, and some exaggeration for comic effect. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:42 | |
-Yes, yes. -OK. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
But it works beautifully because it creates another world, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:48 | |
and if you're doing this on stage as a sort of Cockney character, | 0:07:48 | 0:07:53 | |
if you're not at all familiar with Cockneys, I think | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
you take this all in as this colourful land of East London. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:01 | |
-Yes. Slightly foreign. -Yes, exactly. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
# They both agreed to married be upon next Easter Sunday | 0:08:04 | 0:08:09 | |
# But ratcatcher's daughter She had a dream | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
# That she wouldn't be alive on Monday | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
# She vent vonce more to buy some sprats | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
# And she tumbled into the vater | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
# And down to the bottom all kivered up with mud | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
# Went the pretty little ratcatcher's daughter | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
-BOTH: -# Doodle-dee, doodle-dum | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
# Dee-dum, doodle-da. # | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
And again! | 0:08:35 | 0:08:36 | |
-BOTH: -# Doodle-dee doodle-dum | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
# Dee-dum, doodle-da. # | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
That's it, so she's drowned in the Thames. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:46 | |
Nothing was funnier, it would seem, to Victorians of this time, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
than people dying. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
There's love and tragedy and blood and drowning, | 0:08:52 | 0:08:57 | |
and that's what's great about it, | 0:08:57 | 0:08:59 | |
it's not sanitised like so many songs in later years. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
It's a real thing of beauty, The Ratcatcher's Daughter. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
Entertainment venues were starting to respond to the tastes | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
of their clientele, and it seems the Victorians loved | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
nothing more than tales of death and murder. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
But the one thing that was absolutely forbidden was a play. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:29 | |
Before the 1840s, entertainment was heavily controlled | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
by the authorities, and it was illegal for theatres | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
to put on a play without a licence, so the smaller theatres responded | 0:09:36 | 0:09:40 | |
with their own subversive take on the classics. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
I'm going to the Charing Cross Theatre on the Strand, | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
the former centre of London's fringe theatre scene, | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
where an alternative breed of comedy, called doggerel, | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
was gaining popularity. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:55 | |
-Nice to meet you, how are you doing? -Good to meet you. -Hi. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
So, why was doggerel, and particularly doggerel Shakespeare, | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
why was that such a hit with 19th-century audiences? | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
Victorians were obsessed with doing Shakespeare, the great national | 0:10:07 | 0:10:11 | |
playwright, so there was this sense that, "Well, we can, | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
"we alternative theatres..." - | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
the theatres around the Strand, where we are right now - | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
"..we can thumb our noses at the great stewards of culture | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
"at Covent Garden and Drury Lane." | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
So the smaller theatres said, | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
"We're going to do Shakespeare, but on our terms, and we're going | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
"to do the great Shakespeare tragedies as if they were comedies. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
"We're going to take something very serious and make it look ridiculous." | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
So, who was coming to these theatres? | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
What was the audience made up of? | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
One-word description of that audience is "bohemian". | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
They were people who went to Covent Garden and Drury Lane | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
and saw legitimate Shakespeare, | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
and then they would go, on the other night, | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
to the burlesque and see the travesty or satire version of Shakespeare, | 0:10:54 | 0:10:59 | |
so imagine going to see Benedict Cumberbatch as Hamlet | 0:10:59 | 0:11:03 | |
on a Tuesday night and then on Thursday you go to a small fringe theatre | 0:11:03 | 0:11:07 | |
in London, and somebody is imitating Benedict Cumberbatch as Hamlet. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:12 | |
OK, we're going to do the burlesque balcony scene from Romeo And Juliet. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
I quite like my moustache. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
Romeo, are you ready? | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
I am. What do you think? Ta-da! | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
-Perfect. -But every Romeo needs a Juliet. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:30 | |
True. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:31 | |
Oh! She's a looker! Oh! | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
Ha! | 0:11:38 | 0:11:39 | |
'Tis he! | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
You are still playing in verse, even though it's funny. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
The actors would have done a comic voice and, often, for | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
a 19th-century performance, this would have been a regional accent. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:53 | |
Oh, I can handle that! | 0:11:53 | 0:11:54 | |
I think you can. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:55 | |
THEY CHUCKLE | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
Ha! 'Tis he! | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
Juliet. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:00 | |
Romeo, ah, yes, 'tis he. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
Oh, say that name again. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
Oh, me-o, Romeo! | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
Wherefore art thou, Romeo? | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
Well, 'pon my soul, my love, my sweet ray, dear, | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
I haven't got the most remote idea. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
-My father perhaps. -Deny him! -Then my mother. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:20 | |
-She does... Oh, sorry. -Get off! | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
Go, go! | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
-Then my mother, she does not know I'm out. -Oh, what a bother. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
What is bother, sweet? | 0:12:28 | 0:12:29 | |
That you, my Romeo, should be a Montague. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
And I a Capulet, and yet, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
what's in a name? | 0:12:37 | 0:12:38 | |
Great. That was wonderful! | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
He looks even tastier in the flesh, I'll tell you. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
I really enjoyed that. Didn't you think it was great? | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
I kind of thought that this burlesque would be | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
sort of anti-Shakespeare entertainment. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
But in fact, if you love Shakespeare, you love this... | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
-It celebrates it, absolutely. -..even more. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
Exactly, that's what the people who wrote the burlesque said. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
Because all the critics in the big theatres said, "How dare you do this? | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
"This is a travesty, this is a bastardisation of Shakespeare, | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
"this is an insult to Shakespeare." | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
And people who did the burlesque said, | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
"You've got it all wrong, we love Shakespeare." | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
It's a great love letter to Shakespeare. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
The big theatres had lost their control over entertainment. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
By the 1840s, it was the minor theatres, | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
penny gaffs and supper rooms that drew in the crowds. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:34 | |
Popular entertainment was becoming a real money-maker | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
and the stage was set for the arrival of... | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
music hall. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
The music hall would eventually come to define 19th-century entertainment | 0:13:44 | 0:13:48 | |
and at one time, there would have been one in every neighbourhood. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
I've come to Wilton's in East London, one of the last remaining halls | 0:13:51 | 0:13:55 | |
in the country, where many a music-hall star performed. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:59 | |
But none of it would have been possible | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
without one canny Victorian businessmen, Charles Morton. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
Fern, Charles Morton was this extraordinary entrepreneurial figure, | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
just tell me a bit about him. Who was he? | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
Well, we call him the Father of the Halls | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
because he really does create music hall for the first time. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
He was a publican and he was an East End boy, Hackney born, | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
and he'd started as a pub owner. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
He's been going to the Evans' song and supper room, which is kind of | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
men singing songs and drinking, and he realises that this is | 0:14:28 | 0:14:32 | |
a really good way to make money and he thinks, "Well, | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
"I could do this but I could do it a little bit differently." | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
So, having bought the Canterbury Arms, | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
he opens it as the Canterbury Music Hall, | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
as a 700-seater hall, and he also allows ladies in, | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
so this is doubling his money, doubling his revenue. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
The Canterbury is very like Wilton's. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
It's kind of a free-for-all, so you have long tables, | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
you might have short tables, everyone's sitting around. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
There's waitresses with beer and porter, and people bringing in food. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
Kids running around, smoke everywhere. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
It is a real mix of classes that you don't see anywhere else | 0:15:04 | 0:15:09 | |
in Victorian England, and it's our first mass entertainment in the UK. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
We've never seen anything like it. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
Music halls were an escape from the living conditions | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
of the average 19th-century urban resident. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
City life was poor and crowded, with no running water or heating, | 0:15:25 | 0:15:30 | |
and night-time for most was seen through the dim flicker of a candle. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:34 | |
There was a time when a lot of people would have been too scared | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
to venture out to a place like the Canterbury after dark, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
but in the early 1800s a revolutionary new invention | 0:15:44 | 0:15:49 | |
transformed the world of popular entertainment for ever. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:53 | |
Gas lighting first appeared on Britain's streets in the early 19th century, | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
and allowed people to walk safely at night for the first time. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:03 | |
By the 1850s, as more and more music halls were being built, | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
auditoriums were now being lit by gas. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
A trip to the halls for the average punter could be the only time | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
they would experience such a luxury. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:15 | |
Combined with the cheap beer and entertainment on offer, | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
music halls like the Canterbury became more and more successful. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
This booming business led to a race to build music halls | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
all around the country. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
Another modern-day survivor of this music-hall boom | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
is the City Varieties in Leeds, built above a pub in 1865. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:40 | |
And just a few years later, City Varieties had the privilege | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
of presenting a massive star of the future. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
Yes, me. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
I've played City Varieties quite a lot of times | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
and have always had a great gig. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:57 | |
The first time I ever played here, I can see it now from here, | 0:16:57 | 0:17:02 | |
I dashed out onto the stage, bursting with enthusiasm, | 0:17:02 | 0:17:07 | |
and stages in theatres like this are tilted forward, | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
what they call the rake, so the audience can see better, | 0:17:11 | 0:17:15 | |
but I hadn't really played anywhere like this before, | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
so I ran out on stage and I'm basically running downhill, | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
I damn near ran straight off the end of the stage. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:25 | |
It was a terrifying opening. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
But I always think of that... | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
that horrible moment before the show began. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
It was on this very stage that Dan Leno appeared | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
as an emerging performer, travelling the country with his act. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
He was born in the slums of King's Cross in 1860, | 0:17:41 | 0:17:45 | |
but immediately was on the road with his family of entertainers. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
He would go on to perform | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
everything from acrobatics, comic singing, | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
and pantomime. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
As a touring performer myself, | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
I feel a certain kinship with the itinerant Leno. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
And who should be waiting for me in the stalls but Dan Leno expert, | 0:18:02 | 0:18:06 | |
Caroline Radcliffe. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
-Hello. -Hello. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:10 | |
-God, I have had crowds like this. -Pleased to meet you. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
THEY CHUCKLE | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
So we're in quite a beautiful old music hall. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
What kind of places would the Leno family have been playing? | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
He would have gone to local fairs, | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
because every local town and village had a fair at that time, | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
and there would have been a whole variety of shows | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
and performances, and they would have just walked miles and miles, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:40 | |
knocked on pub doors, played at free-and-easies... | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
And a free-and-easy is what comedians would now call a door split - | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
you do the gig and it depends on how many people turn up | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
-and what they pay. -Yes. So sometimes you wouldn't make anything. -Yeah. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:54 | |
So you're talking about, you know, | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
it's a survival of the fittest, really. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
I have here a lyric from one of the songs he did | 0:18:58 | 0:19:02 | |
in those early pantomimes, which is very beautiful, I must say. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
"If I had my husband now, I wouldn't thrash him, | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
"I'd clasp him in my arms and smash him. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
"His ugly neck I'd dearly like to twist, | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
"and prove the strength of a woman's love... | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
"and fist." | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
-Wow! -Beautiful. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
Yeah, it's got that sort of girl power feel to it! | 0:19:22 | 0:19:26 | |
That's very typical of his humour, I think. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
There's this whole Victorian... | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
I guess it makes me think of the penny dreadfuls and all that - | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
they like a bit of horror | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
and a bit of death in their entertainment. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
His act was basically just a catalogue of domestic violence. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:44 | |
Really, really aggressive songs about beating each other up at home. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:50 | |
So it's the sort of musical version of Punch and Judy | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
-but with real people. -Actually, yes. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
When you look at the poverty that he came from, it was one step away | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
from the workhouse, and that's the humour that he's reflecting. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:05 | |
His really, really tough poverty. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:10 | |
Most of the music halls arose in industrial towns. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:16 | |
You got a lot of factory workers, you got a lot of dockers, | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
a lot of sailors. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
It was a really rough clientele that you got in this style of music hall, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:27 | |
particularly in the 1850s and the 1860s, when Leno's career started. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:33 | |
There are accounts of huge fights taking place in the music halls. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:38 | |
If they didn't like an act, they'd just lynch you round the back of | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
the music hall, throw a brick at you, or just start a fight. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:47 | |
So you have to be really tough to deal with that kind of audience. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
I think stand-up comedians now, they have the odd heckler, | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
but they don't expect to be beaten up around the back. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:58 | |
I thought my early audiences were rough, but this lot! | 0:21:01 | 0:21:05 | |
Luckily, back in the 19th century, there was someone to sort them all out. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:11 | |
Now, you may remember a television programme called The Good Old Days, | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
where a very polite audience sat in rather dodgy period costume, | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
enjoying some music-hall entertainment. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
Well, the real music-hall crowd was not remotely as sedate as that, | 0:21:22 | 0:21:26 | |
and it was down to one man to keep them in check. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
My lords, ladies and gentlemen, good evening, | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
and welcome to this magnificent melange | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
of musicality, magic and mirth, | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
in which we transport you back to the good old days of Queen... | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
-Queen Vic... You're not Queen Victoria. -I'm Suzy. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
Suzy, hello, I thought you might be Queen Victoria. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
I'm sorry to disappoint you. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
Wonderfully impressive chairmanship there. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
Well, a little something. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
I may have got the job, I'm not sure. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
Johnny, tell me about the role of the chairman. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
When did it come about? | 0:22:18 | 0:22:19 | |
The middle of the 19th century. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
Usually, they were the landlord or the governor of the pub, | 0:22:21 | 0:22:26 | |
and his job was purely to introduce the acts | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
and keep order, with his gavel, | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
and make sure that everybody... make sure they ordered drinks. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
When he says, "Order! Order!" - order the drinks, order the food. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
He would get some talented local amateurs in | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
and give them a few bob to sing and he would then compere the show, | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
so the chairman developed into a bit of a personality of his own, really. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
So, what would the chairman be doing then when the acts were on stage? | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
How did the evening unfold? | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
He would be actually facing the audience with a mirror on a table | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
and he'd look through the mirror at the acts behind, | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
to make sure there was nothing going on on stage that shouldn't be. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
His job, really, is to keep an eye on the audience | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
because it was a very rowdy house indeed. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
When you say rowdy, what kind of audience behaviour are we talking? | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
Just shouting out? | 0:23:11 | 0:23:12 | |
Shouting and throwing things. They were very good at throwing things. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
There were lots of acts, there were no breaks | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
and if an act didn't turn up - quite a lot of them did | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
about two or three shows a night - so if they didn't turn up, | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
another act would go in its place, or the chairman would sing, | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
and he would say, "Now it's time for the chairman to do his song." | 0:23:26 | 0:23:30 | |
And we're here in Hoxton Hall, used Macdonald's Music Hall, | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
it's got a very fine history, this building. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
So, who would have come to a hall like this? | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
It's working-class people. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
It was a people's entertainment | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
and they would spend pence on getting in. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
Upstairs even cheaper, upper circle, bit more. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
Downstairs, food and drink. Occasionally, you'd get the nobs | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
from the West End, who would drop in, but that wasn't very regular. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
They had their own music halls to go to. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:58 | |
It was the people's entertainment and the people came out to see it. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:02 | |
They loved it. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:03 | |
Well, I'm glad I won't be facing a 19th-century crowd at the end of this. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:12 | |
I've certainly got a new-found respect for the stamina of these music-hall performers. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:17 | |
So, here's a slightly strange thing. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
I'm just off to see, well, | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
what I'm told is the closest I'll ever get to Dan Leno live. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:28 | |
Yes, Dan Leno. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
The tragical, comical history of the hard-boiled egg and the wasp. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:40 | |
# A hard-boiled egg on the table lay | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
# As hard-boiled eggs often do, do, do | 0:24:47 | 0:24:51 | |
# A gentle wasp charged past that way | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
# And in through the open window flew | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
# And the wasps saw the hard-boiled egg's pale face | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
# As it lay there alone in that lonely place | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
# Dearest, I am with you I am by your side | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
# Give me just one word of hope That sad wasp cried | 0:25:11 | 0:25:16 | |
# But not one word said the hard-boiled egg | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
# The hard-boiled egg The hard-boiled egg | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
# And what a silly wasp for just one word to beg | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
# For... | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
# You can't get any sense out of a hard-boiled... | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
# Hard-boiled... | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
# Oh! Boil the egg! # | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
-Magnificent. -Good to see you. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
Where have I seen you before? | 0:25:47 | 0:25:49 | |
So, the hat's off, now you become Tony Lidington for a second. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
I can be me again. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:54 | |
OK, so, Dan Leno, do you think all this stuff you read about him, | 0:25:54 | 0:26:00 | |
that he was the funniest man on Earth, and all that, is it fair? | 0:26:00 | 0:26:05 | |
Thousands and thousands of people adored him. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
He was the highest-paid entertainer of the age. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
Fairly eccentric and fairly bizarre. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
I mean, a song about an egg and a wasp | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
-in itself is kind of a bit weird. -It's a great combo. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
It's the sort of thing you might get a pub called now. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
The Hard-boiled Egg and the Wasp. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
He came down to London. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:26 | |
I've sort of come to think of him, with what little I know, as maybe | 0:26:26 | 0:26:31 | |
the first-ever stand-up comedian. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
Is that a reasonable description? | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
He became synonymous with this idea of having | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
an interlude in the song, where he would have no accompaniment | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
and just deliver his material, his shtick, as it were, | 0:26:43 | 0:26:47 | |
and so, for that, people often say he was the first stand-up. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
He was alone on stage, no mic, with 2,000, maybe 3,000 people | 0:26:50 | 0:26:54 | |
in front of him, performing, | 0:26:54 | 0:26:56 | |
and with the pit band in front of him, maybe nine or more, | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
and he would be able to top all that, fill the stage. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
But he couldn't do that from the centre, | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
he had that same manic energy that, you know, Lee Evans has got now, | 0:27:03 | 0:27:07 | |
and with that he was able to electrify an audience. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
# My mind's made up I'm going to marry him | 0:27:10 | 0:27:14 | |
# He'll have to come to church If he don't, I'll carry him | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
# For five and twenty years I've had my eye on Jim | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
# If he won't marry me then I'll marry him. # | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
He portrayed people that were recognisable then and recognisable now. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:30 | |
They're all people with a kind of lower-middle-class profession, | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
and that was the audience that was starting to come, | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
that was the mass audience at the end of the 19th and | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
start of the 20th century, and they were recognisable. They were real. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
So when he started to play people like Mrs Kelly, which was perhaps | 0:27:41 | 0:27:45 | |
his most famous character, it's that gossip who lived next door. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
It's like Les Dawson, it's the person who you instantly recognise. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
It is a time before television, it's a time before moving pictures, | 0:27:53 | 0:27:57 | |
so it's a time before there was any sense of things being focused in. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
You have to create that focus with your acting. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:05 | |
'I don't want to let Tony or Dan Leno down. The pressure!' | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
Is it a good idea? | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
# For 25 years I've been doing my... # | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
Is that... What's that? | 0:28:17 | 0:28:18 | |
PIANIST PLAYS TUNE | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
# For 25 years I've been doing my best to make Jim Johnson a match | 0:28:21 | 0:28:25 | |
# I've done everything but ask him point-blank | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
# But he won't come up to the scratch | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
# Of course I know Jim's very partial to me | 0:28:30 | 0:28:32 | |
# Though never one word has he said | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
# Though this morning I passed where he's building a house | 0:28:34 | 0:28:38 | |
# And he dropped a large slate on my head... # | 0:28:38 | 0:28:42 | |
You're there, mate. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:44 | |
You're within spitting distance. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
Yes, yes, I'm in the same postcode as the melody line, | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
but I'm not in exactly the right house. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
So, I really enjoyed meeting Tony. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
I loved watching him perform The Hard-boiled Egg And The Wasp. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:01 | |
It gave me a sense of what Leno was like, I think | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
probably for the first time, because all I've seen is photos | 0:29:04 | 0:29:07 | |
and heard scratchy old recordings. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:09 | |
And he was great. And also, his love and enthusiasm | 0:29:09 | 0:29:13 | |
for Leno provided a sort of a bridge to me, it gave me some access, | 0:29:13 | 0:29:18 | |
you know, across the years, to this mysterious figure. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:22 | |
So he was brilliant, really, really helpful, | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
and I feel he's kind of... | 0:29:25 | 0:29:26 | |
he's opened the door for me a bit, which is fantastic. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
While Frank's getting to grips with Dan Leno, | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
I'm trying to get under the skin of Marie Lloyd. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
I need to understand how women like her in the 19th century | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
managed to defy their social status to take centre stage. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
Two feisty women who paved the way were Jenny Hill and Bessie Bellwood, | 0:29:46 | 0:29:51 | |
a new breed of female singers called seriocomics. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:55 | |
# I am a girl what's doing very well in the vegetable line... # | 0:29:55 | 0:30:00 | |
Seriocomics would tend to portray sort of the market sellers and | 0:30:00 | 0:30:04 | |
the coster women and the servant girls, | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
and would show elements of their lives. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:08 | |
With Hill particularly, she came from a very working-class | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
kind of background, as did Bessie Bellwood, | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
and most of the performers at the time, they did kind of then know | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
the streets and they knew the people that they were portraying. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
She was asked once by an interviewer about how she got that life-like | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
image of an East End girl, and she said, "Well, from life, of course. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
"I go down to the shops and I buy the same clothes | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
"and I see what they are doing." | 0:30:28 | 0:30:30 | |
One more! | 0:30:30 | 0:30:31 | |
# What cheer, Ria | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
# Ria's on the job | 0:30:33 | 0:30:35 | |
# What cheer, Ria... # | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
With Bessie Bellwood, she was very boisterous in her performances | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
and she was very good at putting down hecklers, so I think a lot | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
of people watched to see how she'd put down hecklers in the crowd | 0:30:42 | 0:30:46 | |
and she was a very typical kind of coster girl who would, | 0:30:46 | 0:30:50 | |
you know, sing all of these songs that they'd hear on the market, | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
but also, there was an added sort of dimension to her that, in real life, | 0:30:53 | 0:30:58 | |
she was constantly up on assault charges, | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
she was up on all sorts of | 0:31:01 | 0:31:02 | |
non-payment of bills and things like that, | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
so the audiences knew that she was a bit of a bad girl in real life. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
When you think of somebody like Marie Lloyd, | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
how huge a star she was, people like Jenny Hill | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
and Bessie Bellwood really set the template for that. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
Definitely, and the times when she was attending the halls | 0:31:18 | 0:31:22 | |
and had got the idea of going on stage was when Jenny Hill | 0:31:22 | 0:31:25 | |
and Bessie Bellwood were at their height, so she would have seen | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
these performers and, certainly, she was often praised for | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
the fact that she would know exactly what was in a charwoman's handbag, | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
so if she got up on stage she could perform the patter perfectly | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
and she'd know exactly the right level to lift your skirt up | 0:31:37 | 0:31:40 | |
to show a particular type of woman. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:42 | |
She definitely had that realistic sort of side to her but, | 0:31:42 | 0:31:45 | |
again, she was definitely tabloid fodder as well. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
I'm beginning to understand the toughness of Marie Lloyd now, | 0:31:49 | 0:31:53 | |
and she really would need it to survive in music hall. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
Born Matilda Wood in 1870's Shoreditch, she took to the stage | 0:31:56 | 0:32:00 | |
as Marie Lloyd aged just 15, | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
appearing at places like the Britannia Saloon. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
She continued to scramble her way to the top, | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
to be called the queen of the music hall. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
Of course it would be extremely convenient, Suzy, wouldn't it, | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
if we could go back in time and actually meet these people? | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
Well, I'm going to do the next best thing. It's back to Wilton's. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:21 | |
I'm told Jan Hunt's there | 0:32:21 | 0:32:23 | |
and if anyone knows Marie first-hand, it's her. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
# ..Stamped all over them | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
# Oh, I felt sorry for the lady and the chap | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
# So I says to 'em, 'scuse me If you want to have a cuddle | 0:32:31 | 0:32:38 | |
# Have a cuddle cos I'm gonna have a nap | 0:32:38 | 0:32:42 | |
# I always hold in having it if you fancy it | 0:32:44 | 0:32:49 | |
# If you fancy it That's understood | 0:32:49 | 0:32:53 | |
# I'll be dreaming while you spoon | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
# That I'm on my honeymoon Phwoar! | 0:32:56 | 0:33:01 | |
# A little of what you fancy does you good | 0:33:01 | 0:33:06 | |
# Oh, I always hold in having it if you fancy it | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
# If you fancy it... | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
# Oh, I fancy him! | 0:33:12 | 0:33:13 | |
# And suppose it makes you fat I don't worry over that | 0:33:13 | 0:33:17 | |
# Cos a little of what you fancy A little of what you fancy | 0:33:17 | 0:33:21 | |
# Little of what you fancy does you good. # | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
Oh, yeah! | 0:33:24 | 0:33:26 | |
Fantastic. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
So, what made Marie Lloyd so popular with audiences? | 0:33:31 | 0:33:35 | |
Why did they love her so much? | 0:33:35 | 0:33:37 | |
She sang for the people, she sang to them, she didn't sing at them. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:41 | |
She played every one of them, she took in all the downstairs, | 0:33:41 | 0:33:45 | |
she took the circle, she took in the gallery. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:49 | |
And she just made her audience feel that she was there for them. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:54 | |
And she was vulgar but she was humorous. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
The song about the young girl travelling by train | 0:33:57 | 0:33:59 | |
on her own for the first time, you know, when she gets to | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
the barrier and they ask to see her ticket and she says, | 0:34:02 | 0:34:05 | |
# I told 'em all, I'd never had me ticket punched before. # | 0:34:05 | 0:34:09 | |
Well, that can all be a very innocent line but Marie does it... | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
# I told 'em all, I'd never had my ticket punched before. # | 0:34:12 | 0:34:17 | |
And you know exactly what's behind it. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:19 | |
When you think about the people who came before, the Jenny Hills | 0:34:19 | 0:34:23 | |
and the Bessie Bellwoods, and then on to Marie Lloyd, | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
these were women who were so obviously incredibly talented, | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
they could have had a career in straight theatre, | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
but evidently working in music hall gave them something else. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
Why did they come to these places? | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
Music-hall audiences are very, very important. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
You want them to answer you back, you want them to sing, | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
you want them to throw out the ad-libs so that you can come back at them, | 0:34:41 | 0:34:45 | |
and she sang to the toffs, she sang to those with a bit more money | 0:34:45 | 0:34:49 | |
but Marie's heart was with the people up in the gallery. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:53 | |
# I'm a young girl and I've just come over | 0:35:03 | 0:35:07 | |
# Over from the country where they do things big | 0:35:07 | 0:35:11 | |
# And amongst the boys I've got a lover | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
# Since I've got a lover Why, I don't give a fig... # | 0:35:16 | 0:35:22 | |
'The Boy I Love Is Up In The Gallery was the song that first made | 0:35:22 | 0:35:26 | |
'Marie Lloyd famous as a teenage music-hall performer.' | 0:35:26 | 0:35:30 | |
# The boy I love is looking down at me... # | 0:35:30 | 0:35:32 | |
See him. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:34 | |
# ..There he is, can't you see? | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
# Waving his handkerchief... # | 0:35:37 | 0:35:41 | |
Now to the audience. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:43 | |
# ..As merry as a robin that sings on a tree. # | 0:35:43 | 0:35:51 | |
CHEERING | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
Dan Leno and Marie Lloyd were treading the boards | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
at the very moment that music hall was taking off. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
But it wasn't just the working-class scoundrels like myself in the halls now. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:12 | |
The allure of music hall was spreading beyond the working class. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:17 | |
In particular, a new breed of audience member appeared - | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
the toffs. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:22 | |
So, I imagine these toffs, these fashionable icons... | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
what did they wear? | 0:36:27 | 0:36:29 | |
It was flamboyance, gaudiness, being a male peacock. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:33 | |
Bright colours. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:35 | |
You'd carry a cane with a silver top to it. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
You would generally flounce about in these garments | 0:36:38 | 0:36:42 | |
and consider yourself a picture to be looked at. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:46 | |
And, remember, in the audience you've got young men | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
that are wondering what to do with their leisure time | 0:36:49 | 0:36:51 | |
and they are shopkeepers, clerks, they've got a bit of money. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:55 | |
They want to emulate that type of person. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
The appearance of the toffs at the music halls inspired | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
one of the period's greatest hits, Champagne Charlie. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:06 | |
It was sung by dashing working-class boy George Leybourne, | 0:37:06 | 0:37:10 | |
part of a group of male singers called the Lion Comique, | 0:37:10 | 0:37:14 | |
a sort of Victorian Rat Pack. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:16 | |
-So, George Leybourne, he was an enormous star. -Yes. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:24 | |
It was Champagne Charlie that did it for him. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:27 | |
It grew and grew in popularity | 0:37:27 | 0:37:29 | |
until it became THE song associated with him. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:33 | |
It really took him over | 0:37:33 | 0:37:35 | |
because he just became known as Champagne Charlie. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:38 | |
He was reported to drink a lot of Champagne, yes, | 0:37:38 | 0:37:42 | |
-but by the pint, in tankards. -Oh, OK! | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
It's fabulous. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:47 | |
That's what happens when two classes collide! | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
It is interesting to me because I was part, not deliberately, | 0:37:50 | 0:37:54 | |
of a phenomena known as the New Lads in the '90s, | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
and it had an element of this, cos it had a laddish, drinking, | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
womanising culture, but also, people liked to dress smartly | 0:38:00 | 0:38:04 | |
and started caring about fashion, so there are definite echoes in this. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:08 | |
As I'm at Wilton's Music Hall, well, I thought I'd give | 0:38:10 | 0:38:14 | |
this 19th-century lad culture a go. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:16 | |
So, are you ready, Frank? | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
Yes, I think so. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:24 | |
DRUMROLL | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
# I've seen a deal of gaiety throughout my noisy life | 0:38:36 | 0:38:43 | |
# For all my grand accomplishments I ne'er could get a wife | 0:38:43 | 0:38:48 | |
# The thing that I excel in is the PRFG game | 0:38:49 | 0:38:55 | |
# I noise all night | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
# I sleep all day | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
# And swimming in Champagne | 0:39:01 | 0:39:05 | |
# For... | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
-# Champagne Charlie is my name -Yes! | 0:39:08 | 0:39:12 | |
-# Champagne Charlie is my name -Yes! | 0:39:12 | 0:39:17 | |
# Good for any game at night, my boys | 0:39:17 | 0:39:21 | |
# Good for any game at night, my boys | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
-# Champagne Charlie is my name -Yes! | 0:39:25 | 0:39:29 | |
-# Champagne Charlie is my name -Yes! | 0:39:29 | 0:39:34 | |
# Good for any game at night, boys | 0:39:34 | 0:39:38 | |
# All come and join me on a spree. # | 0:39:38 | 0:39:40 | |
Let's dance! | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
'Just to think I'm treading the same boards as George Leybourne himself. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:49 | |
'You know, I really could get into Champagne Charlie!' | 0:39:49 | 0:39:53 | |
Yes, Frank, not sure about the whiskers, though. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:56 | |
Entertainers like Leybourne weren't just performers, they were stars, | 0:39:57 | 0:40:02 | |
and their fans expected them to appear at several venues a night, | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
so they could see their signature routines. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
That's a lot of Champagne to get through. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:10 | |
Charles Dickens's son offered advice to potential newcomers to music hall. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:18 | |
He said, "It's undesirable to visit many of these establishments | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
"on the same evening, as it's quite possible to go to | 0:40:21 | 0:40:25 | |
"four or five halls in different parts of the town and to find | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
"widely diverse stages occupied by the same sets of performers." | 0:40:28 | 0:40:32 | |
Come on, Suzy, put your back into it, we've got another five music halls to get to! | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
Yes m'lud. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
Not to be outdone by Frank, I'm back to see my mentor Jan Hunt | 0:40:48 | 0:40:52 | |
to take my Marie Lloyd act up a notch. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
Marie didn't always sing sweet songs about boys in galleries. | 0:40:56 | 0:41:00 | |
By the 1890s, she was really pushing the boundaries | 0:41:00 | 0:41:04 | |
of what was legally and socially acceptable. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
Jan looks a bit different from when I saw her last. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
# I lost me way... # | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
-Hello. -Hi, sweetie! -How are you? | 0:41:12 | 0:41:14 | |
-Nice to see you. -Fine. Lovely to see you. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:16 | |
-Hi, I'm Suzy. -This is Lawrence. -Hi, Lawrence. Great to meet you. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
Jan, I've gone away, I did my homework exactly like you said. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:23 | |
Ten out of ten! | 0:41:23 | 0:41:24 | |
I've read up more about Marie, I've listened to some songs | 0:41:24 | 0:41:28 | |
and the thing I was thinking was, the song we did before, | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
The Boy In The Gallery, gorgeous and sweet, | 0:41:31 | 0:41:33 | |
but the more I've read about her, the more I've realised that, | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
as the career went on, she got a bit naughtier, a bit more risque. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:40 | |
Oh, she did, yes. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:42 | |
I just thought, is there a song that I could learn that really | 0:41:42 | 0:41:45 | |
kind of typifies the big, high point of Marie. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
-Expresses the way she was developing, yes. -Yes. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:49 | |
Well, there is. Well, Morning Promenade is a very good one | 0:41:49 | 0:41:54 | |
because that's when she gets quite cheeky with her skirts. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:56 | |
You know, before, it would be a little touch of the skirt. | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
Now the skirt develops and it gets higher and higher. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
Plus, she would do a lot of this | 0:42:01 | 0:42:03 | |
so there'd be a little bit of showing the decolletage. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:08 | |
'Now down to the serious business of rehearsing.' | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
Now, how would Marie have sung or said these words? | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
-Just give us a... -She would have spoken that. -Go on, then. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
When I take my morning promenade, | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
quite a fashion card on the promenade. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:28 | |
-And then maybe go into the singing. -OK. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
# Oh, I don't mind nice boys staring hard | 0:42:30 | 0:42:34 | |
# If it satisfies their desire. # | 0:42:34 | 0:42:38 | |
-So... -BOTH: -When I take my morning promenade, | 0:42:40 | 0:42:44 | |
quite a fashion card on the promenade | 0:42:44 | 0:42:48 | |
Oh, I don't... | 0:42:48 | 0:42:49 | |
Swap the stick over. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:51 | |
..I don't mind nice boys staring hard... | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
Only a little bit. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:55 | |
..If it satisfies their desire. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
That's it. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:00 | |
When I take my morning promenade, | 0:43:00 | 0:43:04 | |
quite a fashion card on the promenade. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:09 | |
# Oh, I don't mind nice boys staring hard | 0:43:09 | 0:43:13 | |
# If it satisfies their desire | 0:43:13 | 0:43:17 | |
Good girl, and then often she used to do... | 0:43:17 | 0:43:19 | |
# Satisfy their desire... # | 0:43:19 | 0:43:21 | |
And then a little kick of the foot. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:22 | |
# Their desire. # | 0:43:22 | 0:43:24 | |
That's it. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:25 | |
And then she would walk to include that side of her audience. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:29 | |
-BOTH: -# Do you think my dress is a little bit | 0:43:29 | 0:43:32 | |
# Just a little bit | 0:43:32 | 0:43:35 | |
# Not too much of it? | 0:43:35 | 0:43:37 | |
# Though it shows my shape just a little bit | 0:43:37 | 0:43:41 | |
# That's the little bit the boys admire. # | 0:43:41 | 0:43:45 | |
Then she'd go back. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:48 | |
You make a statement with the stick at the end, which is lovely. | 0:43:50 | 0:43:53 | |
-That's great. -It's harder than it looks. -It is. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:57 | |
-So, I've been trying to practise my Marie Lloyd act. -Oh, yes. | 0:44:02 | 0:44:07 | |
I probably haven't been doing as much homework as I should, | 0:44:07 | 0:44:10 | |
being honest, but I'm finding her really difficult. | 0:44:10 | 0:44:14 | |
It feels something like a very long way away in history. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:18 | |
I don't know if I just need the dress, or I need the hat, | 0:44:19 | 0:44:22 | |
or I need something, but trying to do her shtick of funny and naughty | 0:44:22 | 0:44:27 | |
and a bit kind of classy and yet lowbrow, | 0:44:27 | 0:44:30 | |
plus movement, plus a song. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:33 | |
It's a bit of a tough call. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:35 | |
How's the world of Dan Leno? | 0:44:35 | 0:44:38 | |
Are you trying it at home, by the way? | 0:44:38 | 0:44:40 | |
Are the family sort of thinking, "Why is Mum doing that?" | 0:44:40 | 0:44:44 | |
Yeah, I mean, they're slightly getting used to me | 0:44:44 | 0:44:47 | |
wandering around with 19th-century teeth, trying to do that. | 0:44:47 | 0:44:51 | |
I've been wandering around with 19th-century teeth for years. | 0:44:51 | 0:44:54 | |
How are the teeth with Dan Leno? | 0:44:55 | 0:44:58 | |
-Is that working out for you? -He never shows his teeth, Dan Leno. | 0:44:58 | 0:45:01 | |
No, really, Dan Leno always does this Stan Laurel type smile. | 0:45:01 | 0:45:04 | |
-And... -Maybe his teeth were worse than Marie Lloyd's, if that's possible. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:09 | |
Maybe there are no teeth. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:10 | |
What I like about Dan Leno is, he clearly loves words and language. | 0:45:10 | 0:45:14 | |
You can tell him just enjoying stuff like "chloroform" | 0:45:14 | 0:45:19 | |
and stuff like that that he just chucks in, | 0:45:19 | 0:45:21 | |
and I've got that sort of slight obsessiveness about words as well, | 0:45:21 | 0:45:26 | |
so I'm enjoying that. | 0:45:26 | 0:45:28 | |
I've found a bit of a common bond, I think, between us. | 0:45:28 | 0:45:32 | |
And some of the stuff is funny, you don't know why, | 0:45:32 | 0:45:35 | |
just cos he's chosen exactly the right word, and that's beautiful. | 0:45:35 | 0:45:38 | |
And you get wear a frock. I can't wait to see you in your dress. | 0:45:38 | 0:45:41 | |
Yeah, it's... I wouldn't say it was slinky. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:45 | |
-You can't have everything. -No. | 0:45:45 | 0:45:47 | |
Marie Lloyd and Dan Leno had to work really hard | 0:45:50 | 0:45:53 | |
to keep their acts fresh for their growing audiences. | 0:45:53 | 0:45:56 | |
The increased demand for entertainment in turn led to | 0:45:58 | 0:46:01 | |
the building of Shaftesbury Avenue and the creation of the West End. | 0:46:01 | 0:46:05 | |
But singing stars like Lloyd and Leno | 0:46:06 | 0:46:09 | |
were just one part of the entertainment on offer. | 0:46:09 | 0:46:11 | |
To give you an idea of the sort of variety of acts you might see, | 0:46:14 | 0:46:18 | |
this is Dickens' Dictionary Of London by Charles Dickens's son. | 0:46:18 | 0:46:22 | |
He lists some entertainers - the sort of thing you might expect - | 0:46:22 | 0:46:26 | |
performing animals and ventriloquists, | 0:46:26 | 0:46:28 | |
but also winners of walking matches, shipwrecked sailors, | 0:46:28 | 0:46:34 | |
velocipedists, decanter equilibrists, | 0:46:34 | 0:46:38 | |
living models of marble gems, | 0:46:38 | 0:46:41 | |
fire princes, mysterious youths, | 0:46:41 | 0:46:45 | |
spiral bicycle ascensionists, | 0:46:45 | 0:46:48 | |
flying children and, my own favourite, | 0:46:48 | 0:46:50 | |
Mexican boneless wonders. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:54 | |
Oh, Mexican boneless wonders! Couldn't you just eat one of those?! | 0:46:54 | 0:46:58 | |
Victorian audiences now expected to be astounded as well as entertained. | 0:47:01 | 0:47:05 | |
Magicians and spiritualists drew in the crowds in the late 19th century | 0:47:06 | 0:47:11 | |
as theatre-goers became fascinated with invention and the paranormal. | 0:47:11 | 0:47:15 | |
And even more shocking than Marie Lloyd was the arrival on stage | 0:47:17 | 0:47:20 | |
of a new scientific discovery. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:23 | |
Electric acts quickly appeared in the hall. | 0:47:25 | 0:47:27 | |
Chief among them was Walford Bodie, | 0:47:27 | 0:47:30 | |
whose speciality act was sending several thousand volts | 0:47:30 | 0:47:33 | |
of electricity through his glamorous assistants. | 0:47:33 | 0:47:36 | |
Lights off, please. | 0:47:36 | 0:47:38 | |
Now, can I establish that you're not actually Walford Bodie? | 0:47:40 | 0:47:44 | |
I'm not actually Dr Walford Bodie, MD, no. | 0:47:44 | 0:47:47 | |
-This is just in the style of Walford Bodie. -So, who was he? | 0:47:47 | 0:47:50 | |
Walford Bodie was one of the highest-paid | 0:47:50 | 0:47:52 | |
and most popular entertainers of his day. | 0:47:52 | 0:47:55 | |
In the late 19th century, he was top of the bill in every music hall, | 0:47:55 | 0:47:58 | |
every theatre in the UK, he was one of the best speciality acts. | 0:47:58 | 0:48:01 | |
So he was doing, basically, weird stuff on stage. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:05 | |
He'd charge himself up with the electricity, | 0:48:05 | 0:48:07 | |
he could do anything, he could cure the sick, he could hypnotise people, | 0:48:07 | 0:48:11 | |
at least that's what he said on his playbills. | 0:48:11 | 0:48:13 | |
So electricity was still quite a novelty thing, | 0:48:13 | 0:48:16 | |
and people weren't used to it, | 0:48:16 | 0:48:18 | |
so it's kind of like if I did an act now in which I used the sat nav | 0:48:18 | 0:48:22 | |
and no-one had seen it before and they were going, "Whoa!" and all that. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:25 | |
That is it, yes. And nobody knew about electricity at that time | 0:48:25 | 0:48:28 | |
so he really took advantage of it. | 0:48:28 | 0:48:30 | |
And did he work alone on stage, or did he have what we | 0:48:30 | 0:48:33 | |
normally would look for in a magician, the glamorous assistant? | 0:48:33 | 0:48:37 | |
Well, Bodie did use a glamorous assistant, | 0:48:37 | 0:48:39 | |
he married several of them, actually. | 0:48:39 | 0:48:42 | |
One of them was called La Belle Electra, | 0:48:42 | 0:48:44 | |
and La Belle Electra would also get attached to these machines and | 0:48:44 | 0:48:47 | |
using the power of Bodie's special Bodic force, as he called it, | 0:48:47 | 0:48:50 | |
she would also withstand the power of electricity. | 0:48:50 | 0:48:53 | |
Have you got a Bodic force? | 0:48:53 | 0:48:55 | |
Um, I might develop one during this. | 0:48:55 | 0:48:57 | |
Did he use dangerous electricity, or did he just pretend to? | 0:48:57 | 0:49:01 | |
Well, he used machines that... Nowadays, we would consider them quite dangerous. | 0:49:01 | 0:49:05 | |
The things that I'm using here are the modern versions, producing the | 0:49:05 | 0:49:09 | |
same amount of electricity, but just a bit less likely to kill anybody. | 0:49:09 | 0:49:12 | |
OK. | 0:49:12 | 0:49:13 | |
On a score out of 100, how likely are they to kill somebody? | 0:49:13 | 0:49:17 | |
Cos I'm thinking that I might actually take the role | 0:49:17 | 0:49:21 | |
of La Belle Electra. It seems I was born for that. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:24 | |
-OK, shall I mount the plate? -You certainly can. | 0:49:24 | 0:49:27 | |
Is there any things I definitely shouldn't do? | 0:49:27 | 0:49:30 | |
Don't touch the floor. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:32 | |
No, don't touch the floor, and if you've got a pacemaker, turn it off now. | 0:49:32 | 0:49:35 | |
Oh! | 0:49:37 | 0:49:38 | |
That's... | 0:49:38 | 0:49:40 | |
At last I'm in light entertainment! | 0:49:40 | 0:49:42 | |
'With 50,000 volts running through my body, | 0:49:42 | 0:49:45 | |
'I'm starting to think this stuff's got a bit of comic potential.' | 0:49:45 | 0:49:48 | |
Oh! | 0:49:48 | 0:49:49 | |
Goalkeeper. | 0:49:49 | 0:49:51 | |
Sir Edmund Hillary. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:54 | |
Man with his head trapped | 0:49:54 | 0:49:56 | |
in a lift door. | 0:49:56 | 0:49:58 | |
Can you open the... Can you open the... | 0:49:59 | 0:50:01 | |
Can you just open the door? | 0:50:01 | 0:50:03 | |
Audiences at the end of the 19th century demanded a wow factor with their entertainment. | 0:50:03 | 0:50:09 | |
And as the bright lights of Shaftesbury Avenue lit up for the first time, | 0:50:09 | 0:50:13 | |
music-hall entertainers like Leno and Lloyd were entering a new era. | 0:50:13 | 0:50:18 | |
But before we say goodbye to the 19th century, | 0:50:21 | 0:50:24 | |
it's back we go to the gas-lit world of the music hall... | 0:50:24 | 0:50:28 | |
..where it's finally time to see if Suzy and I | 0:50:28 | 0:50:31 | |
can bring Dan Leno and Marie Lloyd back to life. | 0:50:31 | 0:50:34 | |
-Ow! -I'm sorry. -Genuinely ow! | 0:50:34 | 0:50:37 | |
I'm very sorry. I'm really sorry. | 0:50:37 | 0:50:39 | |
See how difficult she is! | 0:50:39 | 0:50:40 | |
He's a bit Cara Delevingne! | 0:50:40 | 0:50:42 | |
-So, I'm actually playing Dan Leno playing a woman today. -Right. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:50 | |
I thought I'd up my game and do a double-whammy impression, | 0:50:50 | 0:50:55 | |
whereas you've taken the easy route of being a woman playing a woman. | 0:50:55 | 0:51:00 | |
-She's not... -I mean, you are halfway there. | 0:51:00 | 0:51:02 | |
She's not that easy, Marie Lloyd, | 0:51:02 | 0:51:04 | |
cos she had total star quality, which...I'm... | 0:51:04 | 0:51:10 | |
I'm somewhat searching around for. | 0:51:10 | 0:51:13 | |
The thing I love, I've chosen this Marie Lloyd song, | 0:51:13 | 0:51:16 | |
which does have that brilliant thing of taking something very biblical, | 0:51:16 | 0:51:21 | |
you know, what seems like a very nice high Victorian subject | 0:51:21 | 0:51:24 | |
-and turning it into such filth. -OK! | 0:51:24 | 0:51:26 | |
It's really smutty. | 0:51:26 | 0:51:28 | |
I was just trying out my Dan Leno mouth. | 0:51:33 | 0:51:37 | |
Let's see it. | 0:51:37 | 0:51:38 | |
-They said that Dan Leno... he had a look. -That looks like... | 0:51:40 | 0:51:43 | |
-They said Stan Laurel... -I was going to say it's the Stan Laurel smile. | 0:51:43 | 0:51:47 | |
-They say Stan Laurel took his smile from Dan Leno. -Show us again. Yeah. | 0:51:47 | 0:51:51 | |
And that Chaplin took... He used to dress, like, in this shabby... | 0:51:52 | 0:51:56 | |
baggy trousers and a long coat so that Chaplin, he... | 0:51:56 | 0:52:00 | |
You know, there were all these young comics there watching Leno and... | 0:52:00 | 0:52:04 | |
not nicking his stuff so much, but being massively influenced by him. | 0:52:04 | 0:52:08 | |
But it's interesting. You sort of think comedy starts with | 0:52:08 | 0:52:11 | |
those guys, like Laurel and Hardy and Chaplin, not comedy, | 0:52:11 | 0:52:14 | |
but the comedy we know, cos it's on record, cos there's films of them. | 0:52:14 | 0:52:17 | |
Mmm. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:18 | |
Well, one plus about this is that nobody really knows | 0:52:18 | 0:52:23 | |
what Dan Leno...what he looked like and what he moved like and | 0:52:23 | 0:52:27 | |
stuff like that, so they can't really shoot me down for getting it wrong. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:31 | |
-There might be a plus to being a non-performer. -Really? | 0:52:31 | 0:52:35 | |
Cos I find that you start doing it and then I'm thinking, | 0:52:35 | 0:52:39 | |
"Oh, no, that was just me, that was just me doing a line, | 0:52:39 | 0:52:44 | |
"rather than Dan Leno doing a line," | 0:52:44 | 0:52:47 | |
so at least you're coming with a blank page. | 0:52:47 | 0:52:51 | |
And you are a performer as well, in that you... | 0:52:51 | 0:52:55 | |
-Communicate, you communicate for a living. -Frank, I talk. | 0:52:57 | 0:53:00 | |
You do work in a call centre, don't you? | 0:53:00 | 0:53:02 | |
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. | 0:53:15 | 0:53:20 | |
Good evening! | 0:53:20 | 0:53:23 | |
I bring to you Miss Marie Lloyd. | 0:53:23 | 0:53:28 | |
CHEERING | 0:53:28 | 0:53:30 | |
# Fancy the girls in the prehistoric days | 0:53:32 | 0:53:35 | |
# Each wore a bearskin to cover up her fair skin | 0:53:35 | 0:53:39 | |
# Lately Salome has charmed us to be sure | 0:53:39 | 0:53:43 | |
# Wearing just a row of beads and not much more | 0:53:43 | 0:53:48 | |
# Fancy me dressing like that too | 0:53:48 | 0:53:52 | |
# I'm sure the Daily Mirror man would love an interview | 0:53:52 | 0:53:57 | |
# As I take my morning promenade | 0:53:57 | 0:54:04 | |
# Quite a fashion card on the promenade | 0:54:04 | 0:54:08 | |
# Now, I don't mind nice boys staring hard | 0:54:08 | 0:54:12 | |
# If it satisfies their desire | 0:54:12 | 0:54:15 | |
# Do you think my dress is a little bit | 0:54:15 | 0:54:20 | |
# Just a little bit | 0:54:20 | 0:54:22 | |
# Not too much of it | 0:54:22 | 0:54:24 | |
# If it shows my shape just a little bit | 0:54:24 | 0:54:28 | |
# That's the little bit boys admire | 0:54:28 | 0:54:32 | |
# If it shows my shape just a little bit | 0:54:32 | 0:54:36 | |
# That's the little bit the boys admire. # | 0:54:36 | 0:54:41 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:54:41 | 0:54:43 | |
Carrying all before her. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:49 | |
-I did it! I did it! -Brilliant. | 0:54:51 | 0:54:54 | |
God, it was actually like standing in the wings at the music hall | 0:54:54 | 0:54:57 | |
-watching Marie Lloyd. -No, it wasn't. | 0:54:57 | 0:54:59 | |
It really was how I imagine it would be. Dan Leno waiting to go on. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:02 | |
I really, totally enjoyed it, it was great. | 0:55:02 | 0:55:06 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, the delectable Dan Leno. | 0:55:06 | 0:55:11 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:55:11 | 0:55:13 | |
Good luck, you're on, you're on, you're on. Good luck! | 0:55:13 | 0:55:16 | |
Good luck! Go for it. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:19 | |
# For 25 years I've been doing my best to make Jim Johnson a match | 0:55:23 | 0:55:29 | |
# I've done everything but ask him point-blank | 0:55:29 | 0:55:32 | |
# But he won't come up to the scratch | 0:55:32 | 0:55:34 | |
# Of course I know Jim's very partial to me | 0:55:34 | 0:55:37 | |
# Though never one word has he said | 0:55:37 | 0:55:40 | |
# But this morning I passed where he's building a house | 0:55:40 | 0:55:44 | |
# And he dropped a large slate on my head... # | 0:55:44 | 0:55:49 | |
Of course he did that more really to draw my attention, you see. | 0:55:51 | 0:55:54 | |
Oh, but you know, Jim's a totally different man. | 0:55:54 | 0:55:57 | |
Jim does love me, you know. | 0:55:57 | 0:55:59 | |
And he's lodging now with Mrs Kelly. | 0:55:59 | 0:56:02 | |
You know, Mrs Kelly. | 0:56:04 | 0:56:07 | |
You know Mrs Kelly. | 0:56:07 | 0:56:09 | |
Don't you know Mrs Kelly? | 0:56:10 | 0:56:12 | |
Her husband's that little stout man | 0:56:12 | 0:56:14 | |
always on the corner of the street in a greasy waistcoat. | 0:56:14 | 0:56:17 | |
Good life, don't look so stupid. | 0:56:18 | 0:56:20 | |
Don't you... You must know Mrs Kelly! | 0:56:20 | 0:56:23 | |
Don't...don't... | 0:56:23 | 0:56:24 | |
don't you know Mrs Kelly? | 0:56:24 | 0:56:27 | |
Well, of course, if you don't, you don't, but I thought you did | 0:56:27 | 0:56:30 | |
because I thought everybody knew Mrs Kelly. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:32 | |
Still, here I am talking to you about Mrs Kelly | 0:56:32 | 0:56:35 | |
and I want to talk to you about Jim. | 0:56:35 | 0:56:37 | |
# Oh, my mind's made up | 0:56:37 | 0:56:41 | |
# I'm going to marry him | 0:56:41 | 0:56:43 | |
# He'll have to come to church | 0:56:43 | 0:56:44 | |
# If he don't, I'll carry him | 0:56:44 | 0:56:46 | |
# For five and twenty years I've had my eye on Jim | 0:56:46 | 0:56:50 | |
# If he won't marry me I'll marry him | 0:56:50 | 0:56:53 | |
# If he won't marry me... # | 0:56:53 | 0:56:56 | |
Well, I'll insist upon it and take him to church myself | 0:56:56 | 0:56:58 | |
if I have to chloroform him. | 0:56:58 | 0:57:00 | |
Upon my word, I will, I'll have him! | 0:57:00 | 0:57:02 | |
CHEERING | 0:57:03 | 0:57:06 | |
'Next time - we enter the golden age of variety...' | 0:57:32 | 0:57:36 | |
Brilliant! | 0:57:37 | 0:57:38 | |
'..find out about the extraordinary acts of long-forgotten performers...' | 0:57:38 | 0:57:43 | |
If you see it done exactly how she would have done it, | 0:57:43 | 0:57:45 | |
it's still pretty jaw-dropping. | 0:57:45 | 0:57:47 | |
'..and discover if we've got what it takes...' | 0:57:47 | 0:57:50 | |
Hi! | 0:57:50 | 0:57:51 | |
'..to recreate the magic of the era's greatest stars.' | 0:57:51 | 0:57:55 | |
Pretty good. | 0:57:57 | 0:57:58 |