Nicki Chapman Britain's Home Truths


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Us Brits have a passion for property

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and of course our national obsession is house prices.

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-How much to buy?

-You're looking at about 1.7 million for an apartment like this.

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But housing is about so much more than bricks and mortar.

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Look at the smile on my face.

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It's about who we are and how we choose to live.

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75 years since the Beveridge report vowed to rebuild Britain's housing...

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Slums must go.

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..we are opening the doors to Britain's home truths...

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From council houses...

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..to suburban semis.

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High rises...

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..to country pads...

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In fact, anywhere we call home.

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..to find out if three-quarters of a century later,

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we really have built a better place to live.

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As the presenter of Escape To The Country and Wanted Down Under,

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I have met loads of people who just wanted to run away

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'and start a new life somewhere else.

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'And I always know how they feel.

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'But escaping for me isn't to a countryside pad,

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'let alone a different continent.

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'No, I find freedom by leaving the city

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'and going back to my old home town of Herne Bay.'

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I love this journey.

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I commuted up to London every single day for about a year

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and on the way home, after Gillingham, if you glimpse,

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if you look out just past the hills,

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you could actually see the sea and on a good day,

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you could smell it and then I knew I was nearly home.

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And this is what it looks like.

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Now, to the outsider,

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this place may look pretty traditional

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and even a little bit old-fashioned,

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but I want to show you how, in its day,

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it was an example of revolutionary town planning

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and was, in fact, one of Britain's early new towns.

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'First, though, I have arrived.

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'Yes, I'm home.'

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MUSIC: Shang-A-Lang by Bay City Rollers

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Every time I return to this place,

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I get that sense of having escaped the stresses of my life in the city.

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And it's not just me, it's done the same for generations of visitors.

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Back in the late '60s and '70s,

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traditional seaside towns like Herne Bay were still all the rage,

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offering hard-working families the chance to get away from it all

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for a week by the coast.

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They were also where teenagers liked to hang out playing the amusements,

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something I have never tired of.

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Yes!

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'For those of us who lived here full-time,

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'you can imagine how this carefree spirit ran through us like a stick of rock.'

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Look at the smile on my face.

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This is my old road.

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I moved in when I was three.

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It is a cul-de-sac.

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We used to play on this road all the time, no worries about cars.

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One of my best friends lived there.

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And ahead of us...

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..is my old house. I haven't been here for years.

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Up this road. And there she is.

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And that's my parents' room up there.

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And they extended it. They had two rooms and I was right at the end,

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single room, as you do,

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never would have had a double bed in a child's room.

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Had all my posters up on the wall.

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I loved this house.

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It's got a certain innocence about it.

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My parents paid just under £7,000 for this property.

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Now what's it worth?

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I don't know. 300, 350,000, it's got to be, hasn't it?

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It's extraordinary.

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MUSIC: Blue Monday by New Order

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Not that I spent that much time at home.

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I was more likely to be found on the promenade,

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roller-skating with my friends or flirting with boys.

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Little did I know at the time, of course,

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but seaside towns like Herne Bay

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were about to go into serious decline

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as cheap foreign travel replaced the traditional family holiday.

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And as the '70s gave way to the '80s,

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a lot of younger people took the opportunity to seek their fortune

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in the Big Smoke.

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I should know - I was one of them.

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I'd started a career in the music business,

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eventually working with people like the Spice Girls and Simon Cowell.

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But living in amongst the pollution,

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noise and general chaos of the concrete jungle,

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I learned to escape back to the simplicity of my little town

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and the people whom I loved most,

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like my sister, Shelley, and best friend, Krista.

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While they get the kettle on,

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I'm raiding Mum's attic for some old keepsakes to help jog our memories

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of what it was like to live here.

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Whereabouts is it? Is it with these old cards?

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No. It's on the other side, it's in a blue box.

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-Can you see it?

-Is it this one?

-That's the one.

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-The memory bank.

-Oh, yes, I'll be careful with that then.

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Now, Nana bought me this.

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She did. Yes. Look.

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I never looked like that whenever I did ballet.

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You've kept these and I didn't realise I'd done it, actually.

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All the exams.

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Roller-skating, I got up to grade four.

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I don't know whether she still works.

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Shall we try?

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MUSIC PLAYS

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She does.

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Look!

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Oh!

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-Makes me a bit emotional.

-Yes.

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Aw!

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We'll close her up.

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I'm not the only one stepping down memory lane today.

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I wonder what Krista and Shelley have dug up.

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What are you two looking at there? Oh, dear.

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Really bad photographs.

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There you are.

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It's the bubble perms that get me.

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Bobby socks.

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Growing up here was I think lovely.

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-It was great.

-Looking back, did you enjoy it?

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It was always sunny, I think.

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That's what I always remember.

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We were always at the beach.

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Either at your beach hut or we were down at the sailing club.

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Or roller-skating.

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Early courting days.

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You know I was always known as Nicki's sister.

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And I would have been Nicki's friend.

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-No!

-You were always very popular.

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No, you were.

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I think you're being a bit generous there.

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I've been going around looking at other towns to see what makes a town.

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Why do you think Herne Bay is so special?

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Well, it's got history to it.

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It's got a beautiful seafront.

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We've got the promenade which you can walk all the way along.

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We've still got our pier and it is still used

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and it's beautiful now with the helter-skelter on it.

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People don't like to move into London -

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they want to stay here, I think.

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We're close to the countryside as well.

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We got the sea and the countryside, we're so lucky.

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We were very lucky growing up here, weren't we?

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-Definitely.

-The great thing is we all want to come back when we can

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and most importantly, we're all friends.

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Still to this day.

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That will never change.

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OK, so my home truth is of escape to a simpler,

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healthier and yes, nostalgic way of life.

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And that's something that the founders of Herne Bay

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wouldn't have found surprising at all.

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In fact, it's how this place was planned and designed,

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to provide a retreat for workers,

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wanting to escape their often-difficult lives in the industrial city.

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In many ways, it was one of the country's first new towns.

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Hi, Colleen.

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-Hello, Nicki.

-Lovely to meet you.

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Which is certainly the view of local historian,

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Colleen Ashwin-Keen, whom I'm meeting at one

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of my roller-skating haunts, the old bandstand.

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So when did Herne Bay as I know it really come into its own?

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People were starting to come to Herne Bay in the late 1700s

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and there was a gentleman, Mr Burge,

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who gathered together some speculators

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and they decided to build a new town.

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I must admit, I didn't realise that Herne Bay was a new town.

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Yes, I have a plan which I can show you.

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They planned it round three squares - Hanover Square,

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Brunswick Square and Oxendon Square.

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It sounds very posh, doesn't it?

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They were trying to attract holiday-makers,

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because a lot of the houses,

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when you look at the old census returns, were boarding houses.

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It was at the time when sea bathing was becoming very popular.

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And Herne Bay was renowned for its healthy air.

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Yes, absolutely.

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It still is healthy today.

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They also had a consortium and sold shares in the pier.

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I think the development of the town, they were making money.

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Certainly business-minded.

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MUSIC: Enola Gay by Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark

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And the story was the same across the land, from Blackpool to Bognor,

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all offering workers and their families a chance to escape the industrial cities,

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to a healthier, more relaxed place.

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But seaside resorts are only the first chapter

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in Britain's new town story.

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Others were to follow,

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including utopian social experiments,

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bold government plans and even the town built by royalty.

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MUSIC: Personal Jesus by Depeche Mode

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I want to know more about the home truths of these places,

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to see if they offer the same sense of escape

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that I find in Herne Bay

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and so I'm off on a road trip.

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My first stop is the pretty little town of Letchworth in Hertfordshire.

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With its quaint thatched cottages and tree-lined streets,

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this place looks like it should be on the front of a chocolate box,

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but actually when it comes to new town planning,

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it's about as revolutionary as you can get.

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Letchworth is Britain's first garden city.

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Built at the beginning of the 20th century,

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Letchworth was one man's radical plan of how people could escape

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the slum conditions of the city.

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His name was Ebenezer Howard,

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but he was no Scrooge,

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because unlike the businessmen who built Britain's seaside towns,

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his plan wasn't to make money - oh no.

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He was interested in a full-scale social experiment.

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Now, he was so passionate about his idea,

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he's written it all down in this book and just flicking through

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his views on town hall and expenses of management, schools, sewage,

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park and roads, interest,

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all in here but one thing that really caught my eye,

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and I'm going to paraphrase it, is this.

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Human society and the beauty of nature are meant to be enjoyed together,

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as man and woman,

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by their varied gifts and faculties supplement each other,

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so should town and country.

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Beautiful words, great idea, but what's it like to actually live here?

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Well, back at the beginning,

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it certainly would have been for a particular type of person,

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that's for sure. For starters,

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pubs and inns were banned from serving alcohol to the workers.

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It built Britain's first roundabout, which is still here.

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And community allotments were established

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in the hope that people would

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become self-sufficient, producing their own food to eat and distribute.

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These are still going today.

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That's why I've arranged to meet Victoria Axel

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to tell me more about the early days of Letchworth.

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One of the key reasons they chose Letchworth is because it was part

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of the Great Northern Railway line

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and they knew that they could bring factories up from London,

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which is exactly what did happen.

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It became a very successful industrial town.

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It is very unique in terms of how it uses its finances,

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the money raised through business interest,

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farming and commercial interest

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gets ploughed back into the community,

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which makes it unique.

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I am loving the green spaces, the leafiness, the allotments,

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but as the community grows, how do you balance the countryside element?

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Howard talked about having a limit to towns so the idea

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would be that a town would grow

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and when it reached its maximum size,

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another town would be built nearby, but in the modern era,

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that has become a lot more difficult for people to reproduce.

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But it was incredibly influential and there are places that look very

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similar to Letchworth throughout the globe - you can see them in Australia,

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Finland, Germany and they all borrow an element of that garden city

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element, that you see trees,

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more space between houses and that has been amazingly successful as a town planning model.

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Letchworth might not have been originally built to make money,

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but if you wanted to live here today,

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then it would certainly cost you a pretty penny.

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The average price for a detached house is over half a million pounds,

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which I guess goes to prove that utopia comes at a price.

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What I really want to know is, what's it like to live here?

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So I'm off to meet Diane, who has been a Letchworthian for 40 years.

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Her house has been here even longer.

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In fact, it was built right at the start of this new garden city's life.

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Look at that door knocker.

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So cute!

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Hello.

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-Hello.

-How are you?

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-Good, thanks.

-You have a splendid-looking home, don't you?

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Thank you very much. Come on in.

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I would love to take a look.

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Thank you.

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Aww. Now, this is beautiful.

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How long have you lived here?

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25 years.

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-When was the house built?

-Have a seat.

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-1907.

-It's gorgeous.

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Gorgeous. So Diane, tell me,

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why did you decide to move to Letchworth Garden City? What was the appeal?

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I just came down here for a job that I'd been told about

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and it sounded good, a teaching job in a boarding school,

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only vegetarian boarding school in the country.

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Really? That's very progressive.

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Yeah, I loved it.

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For the first three years, I was teaching there,

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I lived on the premises,

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which is why I managed to save up to buy a house, really.

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This house dates back to when Letchworth was just first in

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-development.

-Yes, it was within the first ten years of it beginning.

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So, it must have been very different than.

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It must have felt really spread out.

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It still feels quite spread out.

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The initial idea was plenty of garden space

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so every single person could grow food to feed their family.

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Do you think Ebenezer Howard - and we do love that name -

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do you think he would be proud if he came back and saw what's happened

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to Letchworth since he had these creative amazing ideas?

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Yes. I think he would.

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The big contention at the moment is the green belt.

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With the modern government demands for new housing,

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there's a real danger that we might lose that green belt,

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especially in the North,

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so Ebenezer Howard would not be pleased about that.

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But I reckon he would be pretty pleased

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about how his original vision has held up here in Letchworth.

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Thanks to it, Diane and the residents

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have found their escape in a beautiful corner of the country.

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But garden cities were only ever going to accommodate a certain small

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portion of Britain's ever-growing population.

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If the chance to escape the overcrowded cities was to be expanded to all,

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then a bigger, bolder plan was needed.

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Especially in the wake of what happened next to Britain's housing.

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AIR-RAID SIREN SOUNDS

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-NEWSREEL:

-The spread of fire through the narrow streets

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was helped by a strong south-west wind

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and in places, the flames raced along as fast as a man could run.

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The blitz of World War II

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destroyed more than four million homes across the whole of the country,

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from Belfast to Hull, Glasgow to Cardiff,

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and of course London.

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And yet, in its wake,

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it gave the government an opportunity to rebuild and offer an escape route

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from bomb-damaged slum-ridden cities.

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The 1946 New Towns Act allowed areas to be designated for development

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and teams of planners set about creating super-sized garden cities

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for a modern generation.

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My, this is a grand way to start the day.

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Our town was going to be a good place to work in.

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And a grand place to live in.

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With plenty of open spaces.

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Of course, there'd have to be an attractive town centre, too,

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with plenty of room for folks to meet.

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Good shops, a posh theatre, cinemas,

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a concert hall, and a Civic Centre.

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Stevenage was the first to be developed under the scheme

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and over the coming decades, 28 new towns were built all over Britain.

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We think we have much to be proud of,

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having launched the boldest single experiment in national housing to be

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undertaken anywhere on Earth since the end of the Second World War.

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It was a time of great optimism.

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It was felt if you got housing right,

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you could fix many of society's problems.

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When we first came, there were many couples setting up home,

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starting their families, and there were children everywhere.

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And the town has grown with the children.

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It is a progress, with families and the town.

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But it was the place I'm off to next on my road trip that was a real

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tipping point for new towns, not that it was a town at all.

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Oh, no, this was a new city.

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A home of your own in Milton Keynes.

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Given the green light in 1967,

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Milton Keynes' original designers

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declared proudly that no building would

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be taller than the tallest tree.

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For the moment, it's a muddy battle ground, peopled by bulldozers, graders,

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navvies, carpenters and bricklayers, but gradually,

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it will be coloured in by acres of spanking new houses and freshly

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tarmacked streets.

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One man who was here from near the start was urban planner David Locke.

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That's a nice plan for sort of Tivoli gardens of Milton Keynes

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that never quite happened.

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David was one of the men who made sure Milton Keynes

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really packed a punch.

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The one that pushes the new town idea to its ultimate limits

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is the new city of Milton Keynes.

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It's the Muhammad Ali of the new towns.

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This is the plan for Milton Keynes, which is a world-famous sort of icons.

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Of what's called a lazy grid - it isn't a gridiron,

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like you get in North America, it is following the topography.

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You've got the north-south routes,

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Watling Street, West Coast main line,

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Grand Union Canal, M1, and they stitched them across,

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so these are city roads but they are also wide enough to take trams,

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so if some future generation ever want to put one in,

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they've got all the main services down there.

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Also, there was room to put planting

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to keep the noise of traffic and air pollution out of where people live.

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So the purples are factories, aren't they?

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All spread out.

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Yeah. The employment is spread all over the city,

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so that there's no rush to work in the morning and a rush home at night.

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But the planners of Milton Keynes weren't just concerned with the day-to-day running of things,

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they also had their sights set on the future.

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It calls itself the first new city.

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It's got everything going for it,

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from Coca-Cola and Volkswagen to the Open University.

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There's even talk of having the Olympic Games before long.

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The spirit that was very carefully engendered was that we were all in this together.

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We were all in Milton Keynes.

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It was a book to be written and we were part of the writing of the book.

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There must have been such a sense of pride.

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Every week, a new thing would happen, a new thing would open,

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and it was often the biggest or the latest or the shiniest,

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the first snow dome, the first multiplex cinema,

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the first McDonald's outside London, whatever it was, you see,

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and our concert bowl, the red balloon adverts on TV,

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this was all part of this sense

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that we were actually making something very, very special.

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I so remember these ads.

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Three, two, one.

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Wouldn't it be nice if all cities were like Milton Keynes?

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MUSIC: 2-4-6-8 Motorway by the Tom Robinson Band

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After finding out some of the theory,

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I'm off to see how this new town has worked in practice,

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so I'm getting a tour with early resident pioneer Lee Scriven.

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Can I just say, I don't know whether I'm going north, south, east...?

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-Go right.

-I have no...

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Yeah, you can get lost. Even I get lost.

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-"Go left at the roundabout." Which one?

-Yeah, yeah.

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Lee moved here as a teenager in 1974.

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More than 40 years later, his family are still here.

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# And it's 2-4-6-8, ain't never too late

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# Me and my radio truckin' on through the night... #

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So, Lee, what age were you when you moved to Milton Keynes?

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14. I actually moved in the week of my birthday.

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-Did you?

-I was quite excited...

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-Were you?

-Yeah, I was actually going to be moving to this space-age city,

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you know. You may recall at the time, you had Space 1999 on the telly,

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Thunderbirds and Joe 90, and you really felt you were moving to a Gerry...

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To a town built by Gerry Anderson.

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You know, it was really exciting.

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But it came as a bit of a shock when we finally got here in 1974,

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I'd made it to Milton Keynes but Milton Keynes hadn't been made.

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No! There was hardly anything here?

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When we came here, them trees were about three foot to four foot high,

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so it was just...

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You did see everything and there was nothing really to see,

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other than dust, mud of a building site, or farmland.

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Compared to, you know, people have gone it's like the old Wild West,

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frontier town, but believe me, in the early '70s, it really was.

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There was dust... There was tumbleweeds going down the road because there

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was nothing else, you know?

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This road we are calling up now, left or right, basically,

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it all went up within a five-year period.

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-Did they?

-And that's a lot of houses.

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And it wasn't just houses they were building up this time.

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No, they were revolutionising how we shopped too.

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So, this is the city centre that we are coming through.

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-Is it?

-And this was the most important building really in Milton Keynes' history.

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Sounds a bit sad that a shopping mall, as it is now,

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would be one of the most important buildings...

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-It's all glass.

-Yeah,

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I think it's quite beautiful actually

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but people might find that a bit sad.

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But I actually love it, I love the steel and the glass.

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Once that place opened,

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you really felt that you'd moved to that space-age city.

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Milton Keynes had something that nowhere else had got and boy,

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did the locals like that.

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Centre MK was opened in 1979 by newly-elected Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.

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It was designed to be a complete town centre under one roof

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with 130 shops and six department stores.

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Today, of course, all British towns have supersized malls like this,

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but Milton Keynes broke the mould.

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In the years since Lee and his family arrived here,

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Milton Keynes has grown to the size of a city with a population of over a quarter of a million.

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But for those early pioneers,

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it must have been a giant leap of faith moving here,

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with little more to welcome them than a gift from the development corporation.

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The corporation give a tree voucher

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to all new tenants when they move in, all right?

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Take it along to any of the garden centres that are listed...

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Suppose we wanted two, do we get another voucher?

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No, you don't. I'm afraid, it's one voucher per house.

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New job, new home, new life.

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Lee's family also got a tree

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and it's still in the back garden of his mum's house.

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Well, Elsie and Lee, you must have been one of the first families

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to move in here in Milton Keynes.

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What year did you buy this house?

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-1974.

-'74, and can I be a bit cheeky?

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Can you remember what you paid for it?

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-This house?

-Yeah.

-It was 12,500.

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And what did you sell the one in Walthamstow for?

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-10,000.

-So, it was quite a bit more, wasn't it?

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Do you know what this might be worth now?

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We think it might be in the region of 240, 250.

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And Walthamstow?

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About 450, 500.

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I bet that caught in the back of your throat, didn't it?

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But think how many happy years you've had here.

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I have no regrets about that.

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Worth remembering what we were moving from.

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The house was damp, it was cold, it was old,

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and I don't think my mum will mind,

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there was rats at times and it was London.

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We were working-class people and to be able to move into a house like

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this, with central heating, showers, baths, I mean...

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It was, you know, pretty phenomenal.

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And even at the age of 14, I found it quite exciting.

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Obviously, the early days, it wasn't what you expected,

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but did you ever consider going back to London?

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No, never. Never. Never thought of moving back.

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-You just knew?

-No, no going back.

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I don't think many... I don't know about you.

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-No, I never thought it, no.

-And in the street,

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I've got many friends and neighbours,

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which is one of the reasons I sort of don't want to move

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because I'm very close friends with several of them...

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And in fact every week on a Thursday night,

0:25:320:25:35

about eight of us meet in someone's house.

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Years ago, we used to do keep fit but we don't do that any more.

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My mother's generation and perhaps my generation combined,

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that made Milton Keynes.

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-Yeah.

-You know, the architects laid the foundation,

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but the residents made Milton Keynes what it is today.

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OK, confession time.

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I'm in two minds about Milton Keynes, if I'm totally honest.

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Unlike Herne Bay or Letchworth,

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the emphasis of this 1960s new town planning

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was on the super-sized and futuristic, rather than the small and nostalgic.

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Yes, trees and parks soften edges

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but they are as much about hiding concrete as getting residents back to nature.

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By the 1980s, others were thinking this too,

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including one rather special VIP

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with an interest in architecture

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and he wasn't afraid of speaking his mind.

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We've got so used over the last 40 or 50 years to looking at planning

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and building and design, local urban design, in one particular way.

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Like, you only build housing estates, which always have cul-de-sacs.

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The point I feel we ought to re-examine again...

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..is how to design on a traditional basis again.

0:26:470:26:50

MUSIC: Just Can't Get Enough by Depeche Mode

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Prince Charles' vision of a community fit for the 21st century

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is Poundbury. Built on 250 acres of Duchy farmland on the outskirts of

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Dorchester, it's currently home to over 3,000 people.

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Now, the houses may look like they are from the good old days

0:27:070:27:09

but they've actually all been built within the last 25 years.

0:27:090:27:14

Prince Charles was busy,

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so my tour guide is a leading figure of Poundbury's Resident Association,

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Fran Leaper.

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Fran, lovely to meet you.

0:27:200:27:22

Hello, Nicki, and welcome to Poundbury.

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This is my first time.

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And first impressions are impressive.

0:27:260:27:29

I wasn't expecting to see a building like that.

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It looks like it could be in Vienna.

0:27:310:27:33

It is gorgeous, isn't it?

0:27:330:27:35

We love the yellow and actually in the evening sun, it lights up.

0:27:350:27:39

It's illuminated.

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It is impressive, it's on such a large scale,

0:27:420:27:45

it comes across as being very grand as well.

0:27:450:27:49

This is the centre of Poundbury, so this is grand.

0:27:490:27:51

Beyond it, and moving out to the north and the east,

0:27:510:27:56

you will have smaller-scale dwellings and indeed,

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some of them will be village scale.

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In fact, one of them planned...

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There's a small development of thatched houses.

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If Milton Keynes was offering people an escape into the future,

0:28:070:28:11

then there is no doubt about it,

0:28:110:28:13

Poundbury lets them escape into the past.

0:28:130:28:16

These are great. Every single property to me looks different.

0:28:160:28:21

-They are different.

-Look how clean everywhere is.

0:28:210:28:24

I'm pleased you think so.

0:28:240:28:25

-Yeah.

-Because people are passionate about making sure there's no litter.

0:28:250:28:28

So, Fran, what kind of person lives here?

0:28:290:28:32

We have a reputation in some places of being the toffs on the hill,

0:28:320:28:36

would you believe? But all sorts of people live here.

0:28:360:28:40

There's not only private houses and apartments,

0:28:400:28:43

there's a 35% of a mixture of social, which is subsidised housing,

0:28:430:28:49

and affordable housing,

0:28:490:28:51

which is a lot of shared ownership schemes coming up as well.

0:28:510:28:54

And along this road, you see examples of that very clearly.

0:28:540:28:59

But you cannot spot the difference.

0:28:590:29:02

-No.

-The whole point of Poundbury is it's pepper-potted

0:29:020:29:05

and the building standard is just the same.

0:29:050:29:08

So everybody is delighted at being here, from the build quality,

0:29:080:29:12

it's really, really super.

0:29:120:29:13

It seems Prince Charles might have pulled it off.

0:29:140:29:18

25 years ago...

0:29:180:29:19

..all this was a mere dream.

0:29:200:29:22

To most people, a completely mad dream.

0:29:230:29:27

Houses here get snapped up with an average price of £310,000.

0:29:280:29:33

But living under royal approval does have consequences.

0:29:330:29:37

It's not every one that can say Prince Charles is their landlord.

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This is very true.

0:29:400:29:41

Poundbury is unique.

0:29:410:29:43

It is. It is.

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Now, I'm sure there's some myths and rules that are attached to it.

0:29:440:29:48

Would I be allowed to live here?

0:29:480:29:49

-Even you, Nicki.

-Even me.

0:29:490:29:51

So, what's this?

0:29:510:29:53

This is a little booklet to tell people about some of the myths,

0:29:530:29:56

remind them of the rules, and about living in Poundbury.

0:29:560:29:59

Can I have a look? So, where are the rules?

0:29:590:30:02

They are in the back. There are 17 stipulations.

0:30:020:30:05

-Oh, here we go.

-Which everybody signed up to.

0:30:050:30:07

I like number one. Not without the consent of his Royal Highness

0:30:070:30:10

to paint or decorate the exterior of the property,

0:30:100:30:13

otherwise than in the same colour or colours as the property here

0:30:130:30:17

previously painted.

0:30:170:30:18

So, no pink door, then?

0:30:180:30:20

Surprisingly, there is one.

0:30:200:30:22

-Oh, is there?

-Yes.

0:30:220:30:24

Yes, the idea is that your new house

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is part of a palette of colours and

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you should ask permission before you paint your front door.

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But people have varied it slightly

0:30:320:30:34

and so long as it's tasteful, it's OK.

0:30:340:30:36

-We don't mind.

-Even a pink door.

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How about this one?

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I'm not allowed... Oh, this is good.

0:30:380:30:40

I'm not allowed to hang my washing out in my back garden.

0:30:400:30:43

I never know where this idea came from,

0:30:430:30:45

but a lot of people seem to think

0:30:450:30:47

you are not allowed to put a washing line out. Of course you can.

0:30:470:30:50

We are very practical, and there is even an aerial picture

0:30:500:30:53

showing somebody with some washing out.

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Myth... Myth busted.

0:30:560:30:58

-Myth busted, totally.

-Myth busted.

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Satellite dishes, that's an interesting one.

0:31:000:31:02

FRAN INHALES SHARPLY

0:31:020:31:03

-I've touched a nerve.

-Absolutely not.

0:31:030:31:06

-No?

-No satellite dishes at all.

0:31:060:31:08

Because of maintaining the...

0:31:080:31:11

-Look.

-The look of the public realm.

0:31:110:31:14

You are so passionate about Poundbury, you must love living here.

0:31:140:31:18

I do love living here.

0:31:180:31:20

It's a fantastic community.

0:31:200:31:22

I'm the happiest I've been in my whole life, since I've come to live here.

0:31:220:31:25

It's a lovely, lovely community.

0:31:250:31:27

I mean, it has been so beautifully designed,

0:31:270:31:30

but it's also got to be about the people.

0:31:300:31:32

It is, but the people wouldn't have come if it hadn't been such a beautiful design.

0:31:320:31:37

'OK, well, let's meet'

0:31:380:31:39

some of those people.

0:31:390:31:41

I've decided to put in a shift at the local cafe, the Engine Room.

0:31:410:31:45

You need to put that underneath there...

0:31:450:31:47

'But before serving anyone, however,

0:31:470:31:49

'I'd better learn how to make a posh coffee.'

0:31:490:31:52

-And then a bit of froth?

-That's it.

0:31:520:31:54

'Something tells me that what they drink around here.'

0:31:540:31:57

Trying to do an artistic design, but it's not really working.

0:31:570:32:02

You know what, perhaps I'll just stick to cleaning tables.

0:32:020:32:05

Not bad for a first attempt, but I think I know my limitations.

0:32:050:32:10

BELL PINGS

0:32:100:32:12

'Right, time to meet the punters and find out more about the town

0:32:160:32:20

'created by royalty.'

0:32:200:32:21

Did the little one enjoy it?

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Yeah, look at that smiley face.

0:32:240:32:26

So, Kelly, what's it like as a young person living here in Poundbury?

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I've just graduated from university,

0:32:300:32:32

so I been living in Plymouth for the last three years,

0:32:320:32:34

so it's very much a change.

0:32:340:32:36

Poundbury is very quiet.

0:32:360:32:38

It's a very nice place, but for a 21-year-old,

0:32:380:32:40

there's not much to do here.

0:32:400:32:42

-There we are.

-Thank you very much.

0:32:420:32:44

Did it ever go through your mind or concern you that because it is

0:32:440:32:48

a new area, a new-build, there wouldn't be that community feel?

0:32:480:32:51

We were invited for drinks, weren't we?

0:32:510:32:53

As soon as we... As soon as we moved into our square,

0:32:530:32:56

we had a little thing through the door from people who had been there

0:32:560:32:59

recently and said come and join us, so there is a community spirit.

0:32:590:33:03

We haven't looked at it at any time and said we would want to live

0:33:030:33:06

anywhere else. We are really happy here.

0:33:060:33:08

I've got some puddings here.

0:33:080:33:10

-Here we go.

-That's mine.

-That one's yours. OK.

0:33:100:33:12

And then we have the honeycomb here.

0:33:120:33:13

Who is honeycomb? So, who are locals, who is residents here?

0:33:130:33:16

-We are.

-We live in Poundbury.

0:33:160:33:18

We are convincing them later as well.

0:33:180:33:20

-Are you? And how long have you lived here?

-16 months.

0:33:200:33:23

-So, new residents.

-Well, most people are, aren't they, really?

0:33:230:33:27

You could be here for ever and there is a cemetery the other side.

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You know, it's just...

0:33:310:33:33

And I'd love to come back in 100 years' time and I think this whole vision

0:33:330:33:37

will have worked out.

0:33:370:33:39

Right, here's your tea.

0:33:390:33:40

Hello, boys.

0:33:400:33:42

-Hello.

-Hello.

0:33:420:33:43

Do you live locally?

0:33:430:33:44

Do you live in Poundbury?

0:33:440:33:45

Do you? With mummy?

0:33:450:33:47

How long has mummy been living here then?

0:33:470:33:49

We've lived here four and a half years now.

0:33:490:33:51

I see a lot of elderly,

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but are there plenty of young families in the area?

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Yeah, I think it's great. I mean, when I came here, I joined a mums' group.

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I now help run the mums' group.

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And every week, we have two or three new families moving in.

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Local schools are on our doorstep.

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And just really friendly, really.

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Really nice place. Lovely neighbours.

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Parks. So, for us, it works really well.

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MUSIC: 2-4-6-8 Mororway by the Tom Robinson Band

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I have to be honest, when I was thinking about new towns,

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I probably was a little bit... A little bit sniffy about them.

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My idea, my preconceived idea, was they were going to be quite clinical,

0:34:250:34:29

quite cold, everything thought out,

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but was there going to be any heart,

0:34:320:34:34

any soul of the community?

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And in actual fact, driving around and experiencing them first-hand,

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I am impressed.

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Lush, green.

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People really embrace where they live.

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They are very proud and let's all be honest,

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we all want a little bit of Utopia, don't we?

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MUSIC: Rocks by Primal Scream

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So, what's the future of new towns?

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Do they still offer that vision of escape or have they had their day?

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Well, the answer to that is "absolutely not".

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Because a brand-new garden city, the first in over 100 years,

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is currently being constructed.

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It's called Ebbsfleet.

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Now, there's not much to look at

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at the moment but the government has high hopes for this place

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as the model for a new type of new town.

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To find out more, I'm meeting Kevin McGeough and Paul Spooner,

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two of the men in charge of building this new new town.

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They've invited me to the top of Ebbsfleet Observatory

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and I have to say, it provides a commanding view

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of a new town rising from the quarries that

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used to be here.

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This is incredible.

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I didn't realise just quite how large the whole site is.

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It is the most impressive view,

0:35:520:35:55

the birth, the start of a new town.

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So, in the UK over the last 250 years,

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we've delivered some of the best new places in the world,

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in terms of planning new communities and also some of the less successful places.

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So, our job here at Ebbsfleet Garden City is to make sure we make

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the best of the really good examples

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in the UK and avoid some of the lessons of the worst.

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It is a large area.

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I mean, it's going to take 15,000 homes when it's completed.

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That's around 40,000 people.

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But if you look out there, you can see all the diggers on the site now,

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we've got a range of houses being built.

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In the far distance, a local housing association

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is building affordable homes,

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so those are homes that are shared ownership,

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so if you have the ability to get a mortgage of about £100,000,

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you can buy a share, a major share in that property

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and you can actually get on the housing ladder in the garden city.

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But I suppose in a way, it's getting the balance right, you know,

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making sure the developers,

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who are going to want to build as many homes as possible,

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but balancing that with somewhere that people want to live.

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Well, I think the important thing really is about having the quality green space,

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so within the new garden city, we are going to have seven new city parks.

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You can see just in the distance here is what will become the new city park, a massive park,

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similar to Primrose Hill in London,

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we almost see it as Central Park in New York.

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So, what we are talking about here is having a city in a garden.

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The similarities to both Herne Bay and old garden cities goes further.

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As we've seen, they promised people the chance to escape

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to a healthier place.

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Well, Ebbsfleet has a twist on that same idea.

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So, the NHS have come up with a new programme called the healthy new towns.

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There are going to be ten pilots across the country.

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And from those ten pilots, they want to learn about, you know,

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what can we rethink a place, what can it be like to live here,

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can we encourage people to have healthier lifestyles,

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can we deliver health in a different way?

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So, we are going to provide new tram-like buses that connect up

0:37:360:37:39

different parts of the garden city

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and encourage people to take the bus,

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rather than getting their cars. To walk to the station,

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to cycle down beautiful new green corridors we are creating.

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So, we are creating a place that is going to encourage that healthy living

0:37:470:37:50

but also discourage people from using the car.

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Kevin, you are going to change people's lives, aren't you?

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You are going to change the way they live their lives.

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Are you feeling the pressure?

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Do you have a sense of pride that you're involved with it?

0:37:590:38:01

Fantastically. I grew up in one of the last new towns, Craigavon in Northern Ireland,

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and to have 50 years later an opportunity to help

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build and shape a new place, Ebbsfleet garden city,

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is to me the best job I could possibly have anywhere.

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It's what I've always wanted to do.

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It's a great opportunity and I want to make sure we make the most of it.

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The exciting thing is to create the momentum around housing that we need

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in this country but a really affordable mixed range of housing here for

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everybody and secondly, to work on the whole place,

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to create something that is really special.

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I'm encouraged by the talk at Ebbsfleet.

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It seems the vision of what created places like Letchworth, Milton Keynes,

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and Poundbury are safe in the hands

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of those building new towns in the future.

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A lot has changed, of course.

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The plans have become bigger,

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more ambitious and more comprehensive than those I saw in my hometown.

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And sometimes, they have come with rules that I certainly wouldn't be

0:38:540:38:57

happy with. Not to mention all those roundabouts.

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Which one?

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But what unites the people I've met living in these towns is that they

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have all provided that sense of escape to a healthier and, I think, happier

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way of life.

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Sometimes of course you have to pay for it and so I'm ending my journey

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doing something I never tire of,

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getting shown round a fancy pad.

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And it's back where I started, on the seafront of Herne Bay.

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Giving me his sales patter is local estate agent Kieron Whiting.

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I'm so keen.

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It's lovely, isn't it?

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Come on through.

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Now, that is what I call a view.

0:39:380:39:41

Yeah, it certainly grabs you as soon as you walk in through the door.

0:39:410:39:44

It's a lovely site.

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You actually completely forget about your accommodation.

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That's the beauty of it. Ultimately, that is what you are paying for,

0:39:470:39:50

-isn't it?

-Open-plan living, which isn't the norm in Herne Bay, is it?

0:39:500:39:54

No, it's certainly a more modern approach to living

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but certainly more popular now.

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Particularly in properties like this is where you want to

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maximise the view and also the light and airy accommodation,

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you are not going to get that in a standard Herne Bay property.

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This is really one of a kind.

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Yeah.

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Time for the tour.

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OK, here we have the master suite.

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Again, bifolding doors.

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This is lovely. This is just like a second living room, in my opinion.

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South-facing, so it's going to literally bask in sunshine throughout the day.

0:40:230:40:26

-It's lovely.

-Kieron, this is like role reversal.

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You're taking me round,

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rather than me taking you on showing you the houses.

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It feels odd but I'm liking it. I'm liking it being on this site.

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'Well, that's the tour over.

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'Now for the bit you've all been waiting for.'

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How much is this apartment on the market for?

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This penthouse apartment is on the market for £495,000.

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Is it? Just shy of half a million.

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That's quite a lot of money.

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So, how much would an average house be here?

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Average house, terms of your typical 1930s three-bed semi, around 275, 300.

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That's really good to hear.

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Do people want to live in a seaside town all over again?

0:41:020:41:04

Definitely so. The market is incredibly buoyant at the moment.

0:41:040:41:07

-Is it?

-Particularly over the last 18 months to two years.

0:41:070:41:10

So, Kieron, if I could build eight of these along the seafront,

0:41:100:41:13

would you be able to sell them tomorrow?

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Yes, I would be your best friend.

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Would you?

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This home is just so different from where I was brought up but in a way,

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that's what you need.

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You need towns to keep evolving with each generation,

0:41:280:41:32

looking forward rather than always looking back.

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But you know what?

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Sometimes it's also good to get nostalgic, so before I go,

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I've asked my best friend Krista

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and my big sister Shelley to meet me on the promenade.

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I have a little surprise in store

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that should bring the memories flooding back.

0:41:510:41:54

Right, girls. Fancy a quick roller-skate?

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The pavilion is not even there any more.

0:41:580:42:01

-What's wrong with this?

-You're kidding.

0:42:010:42:03

Yeah. How many years since we last roller-skated?

0:42:030:42:06

30? Are you up for the challenge?

0:42:060:42:08

-Yeah.

-I don't think I've got much in the way of balance.

0:42:080:42:11

No, I'll be straight off.

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Right. Try those.

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Thank you.

0:42:130:42:14

-Come on then.

-Oh, no.

-We are going to have fun, aren't we?

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Was this your idea, Nicki?

0:42:230:42:25

Yeah. Thought it be nice to reminisce down memory lane.

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I feel like the Terminator.

0:42:280:42:30

All the gear, no idea.

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Come on, then.

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MUSIC: Modern Girl by Sheena Easton

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This is going to be a long skate, isn't it?

0:42:420:42:45

This way? Hold on to me. Ready?

0:42:450:42:47

'Memories might be flooding back but the legs are definitely rusty.'

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Oh, look, I've got the railing.

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Look, I can do it.

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'You know, looking at new towns has made me look deeper into what really

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'matters to me about Herne Bay and it's this -

0:43:030:43:06

'towns are made by people

0:43:060:43:08

'and as long as planners remember that, we'll be OK.'

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