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There is a failure to provide enough housing for the people of this country. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
But landlords haven't made this problem. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:09 | |
They've just got wealthier on the back of it. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
Once a nation of homeowners, | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
there are now over 11 million people renting in Britain. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:20 | |
And most of the rent is being collected by private landlords. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
My philosophy is buy low, rent high. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:28 | |
The truth is, we buy property for one reason and one reason only, | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
and that's to make money. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
But many landlords have no idea what it's like | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
to live in the properties they profit from. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
When you walk in the house, | 0:00:40 | 0:00:41 | |
first thing you can smell is the mould from this room. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
For a pensioner to sleep in these kind of conditions, | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
I think it's just disgusting. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
And they can't always rely on the tenants to speak up. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
They have the power to say, "Right, you've nagged too much, that's it, you're gone." | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
I can't make it better for you till you say something. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
So to experience it for themselves, | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
these landlords have agreed to swap their home comforts | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
for a week in their tenants' shoes. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
It's very easy as a landlord to completely detach yourself from your property, | 0:01:08 | 0:01:12 | |
not even to think about what it would be like to live there. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
-I'm quite excited now, it's like going on holiday. -Oh, goodness. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:19 | |
To see the properties through their tenants' eyes. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:21 | |
-Cor, smells a bit. -Oh, my goodness. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
What on earth is this? | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
We should have been packing for the blasted Arctic. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
And live on their budgets. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
Money, money, money. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:32 | |
How are we going to eat on 54 quid? | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
And once they've lived the realities of renting for themselves... | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
We feel like we've lived like paupers. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
A bit upset, really. I think it makes me feel vulnerable. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
..will it make them change their properties, | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
or how they view their tenants? | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
What's been building up underneath the surface | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
is knowing that I'm responsible for someone else's living conditions. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
I think the expression "Let it and forget it" springs to mind. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
Did you or did you not say that at one point? | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
-I can't remember. -Oh, come on. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
Yeah. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
Come on! It used to be your mantra. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
-Did it? -Yeah, "Marc, let it and forget it." -Yeah. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
You can't count on that profit. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:21 | |
You want to be making profit without that room, ideally. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
Peter and Marc are a father-and-son team | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
with a property empire worth over £7 million. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:30 | |
If you can use that room, it's gravy on top, you know? | 0:02:30 | 0:02:34 | |
Coolio. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:35 | |
This pot's really particularly nice, I think, isn't it? | 0:02:35 | 0:02:39 | |
-All those colours. -We've done really well with the flowers this year. -Yeah. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
When I first started investing in property, it was for a pension pot. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
I never imagined it would actually grow as large a business as it is. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:52 | |
Now retired from a career in civil engineering, | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
Peter and his wife Jan can enjoy that growing pension pot. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
High Road to Leh. Black Golden Temple. Isn't that beautiful? | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
What about looking at something that I've heard of? | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:03:05 | 0:03:06 | |
Everybody has to live within their means, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
and I have the freedom to live within my means. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
36-year-old Marc joined his dad ten years ago | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
to help him grow the business. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
I just absolutely adore what I do for a living. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
When I was younger, I went from job to job to job, all office-based, | 0:03:22 | 0:03:27 | |
and really hated it. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
Now I'm a landlord, well, it's just like night and day, really. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
It's just the best way of becoming wealthy. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
Some people are saving up for their first house. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
I've got 40. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
I think we need to do something with this, don't we? | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
-What can you do with it, anything? -Mow it. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:03:49 | 0:03:50 | |
The pair currently make £15,000 a month profit, | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
thanks to their winning strategy. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
We'll find an area that's up and coming. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
We'll find a property that's a bargain, a bit tired. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
Have you seen the state of that, Dad? | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
Going to make that into a shower room, yeah? | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
We'll put the loo here and the basin in there. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
-It will work quite well, won't it? -Will do, yeah. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
We'll refurb it to a really high standard, | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
and that way we can attract the young professionals, | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
so we can get the highest rent possible. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
They focus their investments on London's East End | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
and the Essex commuter belt. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
In east London, rents have gone up. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
For Dad and I, that's the same as us getting a pay rise, | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
and really, that's what's made us wealthy. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
I remember once, I thought I'd chance my arm and see if I could | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
charge an extra £100 over and above what other people were charging, | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
and I was really surprised people were willing to pay it. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
Then all the other agents fell in line with that, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
so I was actually responsible for putting the rents up. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
One tenant who has experienced rent rises is 66-year-old Linda. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:54 | |
Linda lives alone in this two-bedroom flat on the London-Essex border. | 0:04:55 | 0:05:00 | |
She'd already been renting the flat for three years | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
when Marc and Peter bought it. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:04 | |
Over the last two years, | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
the rent's gone up over £100 and my wages have only gone up about £40. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:11 | |
Linda's rent is now £950 a month. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
-Hello. -Hi. -Hi, Nan. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
Despite the rent rises, Linda has not wanted to leave the flat. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
Her family live close by and visit her almost daily. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
-What's for dinner? -Chicken, Yorkshire pudding, baked potatoes. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:32 | |
Splendid! My favourite! | 0:05:32 | 0:05:33 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
To keep putting the rent up all the time, it's not really fair. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:39 | |
I mean, at the end of the day, all right, | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
it might be close to a train station, | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
but it's a little two-bedroom flat, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
loads of problems with the place. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
This tap don't work, and there's no water coming out of it. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
The hot tap, that is. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
All these rings are no good. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
This one, as we see, that's no good at all. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
When you walk into the house, | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
the first thing you can smell is the mould from this room. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
This is my mum's room. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:07 | |
The damp is really bad, as you can see, just under there. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
Me and my mum have scrubbed that so many times, | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
but can't get rid of it, it comes back. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
The smell really lingers. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
Leather jacket, all eaten away with mould. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
I think it's just disgusting. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
For a pensioner to sleep in these kinds of conditions, | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
it's not fair and it's not healthy. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
To help control the mould, when they took over the flat, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
Peter and Marc installed this unit. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
They put that in to stop the mould, it's not done nothing at all. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
And Linda even thinks it's affected her electricity bills. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
Since they put that contraption in, it's gone up by about £40 a month. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:51 | |
As her wages can't cover the rent any more, | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
Linda receives £120 a month in housing benefit. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
But even with this, Linda can now only afford to heat one room. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:03 | |
The lounge. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
My mum's 66 years old, she's got osteoarthritis. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
The cold and damp does her no good whatsoever. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
It leaves her in a lot of pain. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:14 | |
Sometimes she's too cold and her bones stiffen up | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
and she can't get out of bed. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:18 | |
Linda has been reluctant to complain to her landlords | 0:07:18 | 0:07:22 | |
about the problems in her home | 0:07:22 | 0:07:23 | |
because she is afraid of repercussions. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
He can just chuck me out any time. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
I haven't had a tenancy agreement in about 13 months. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
I did ask for one. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
I never received one. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
Without a fixed-term agreement, | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
Linda can legally be evicted with just two months notice at any point. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:42 | |
She lives every day worried that, | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
"Could today the landlord turn round and say, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
"'I want my property back?'" She's got no security over her future. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
She's got no hold over it. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
It's been 18 months since landlords Marc and Peter have set foot in Linda's flat. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:56 | |
Until now. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:57 | |
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
-We still need a Friday and a spare. -OK. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
Right, it just says, "Romford, Linda." | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
We bought that. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
It must have been about four years ago, mustn't it? | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
-Yeah. -Linda was already a tenant, weren't she? | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
-That's right, yeah. -So we took it over. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
She didn't ask for much, bless her. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
Right, so, what, are we stripping these? | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
Take these off for now. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:21 | |
For the next week, Linda will move to a serviced apartment nearby. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
Change is a big thing for my mum. She's not young any more. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
It's a big upheaval for me. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
It's just a week, Nan, and, you know, | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
that week will probably fly by once it's started. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
Our adventure. Off for the week, eh? | 0:08:35 | 0:08:39 | |
Yeah, I think it will be an adventure, actually. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
I think it will be a bit different. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
-There shouldn't be any big surprises. -No. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
I mean, I never heard from her. I mean, if there was any issues, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
-you would expect her to call us, wouldn't you? -Yeah. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
She'll meet her landlords at the end of their stay in her home. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:55 | |
Anxious? | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
Very. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
It'll be all right. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:01 | |
Come on, girls, quick! | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
Oh, it ain't half warm in here. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
This is so cool! | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
Got heating. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
Ensuite bathroom, lovely. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
It's nice. There's no smell of mould, it's warm, it's comfortable, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
and it's sort of all I would want in that flat. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
While Linda settles into her new home, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
Marc and Peter are about to experience tenant life. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
Here we go. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:32 | |
Cor, smells a bit. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
Oh, she's rearranged it differently to what I remember. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
There's that unit we put in, look. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
Yeah. You can hear it going. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
Yeah, seems to have done the trick. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
We haven't got any mould or anything in here. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
-There's bits of... -Bits of mould there. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
Yeah. That's mould. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
And up there, look, see? | 0:09:53 | 0:09:54 | |
-Gosh, there's quite a bit of it, isn't there? -Yeah. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
You wonder what the hell we've paid for with that unit there. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
-It's not working at all, is it? That hob's a bit... -That looks a bit dead, doesn't it? | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
-Look at that. -That's dangerous, isn't it? -That's knackered. -Yeah. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
I don't know if that's even safe, Marc. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
-No. -Right, bathroom. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:10 | |
Right, that's great. So, there's no hot water coming out that tap. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:15 | |
That's nice, isn't it? All that mould on the wall. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
-What's all that? -Jesus. You can smell it as well. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
-That's not good, that. -Here we are, second bedroom. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
Mould again, all low-lying on the wall. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
Yeah. So, do you think it's got to be to do with the wall? | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
I haven't a clue, Marc, I really haven't a clue. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
I pride myself as being a good landlord | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
and this isn't the impression I would like to paint. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:39 | |
I don't want anybody living in these conditions. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
Let's open that. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:43 | |
"Dear Marc and Peter, being as you are staying here, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
"I have a few requests. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
"Could you not put the heaters on in the bedrooms, as I can't afford for | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
"the electric bill to go any higher? | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
"Since you've put the ventilator in, my electricity bills have doubled." | 0:10:54 | 0:10:59 | |
-Right. -So, that is massively expensive... | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
Well, that... That is a broken solution. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
-I'm upset about that. I think that's a shame. -Yeah. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
They have been given Linda's budget for the week. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
"£54.12, which is what's left after | 0:11:09 | 0:11:14 | |
"all of the bills have been paid. Yours sincerely, Linda." | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
Crikey. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:20 | |
55 quid. £54.12. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
-Dear... Bloody hell. -54 quid. -Jesus. -How are we going to live on 54 quid? | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
That would be a round of drinks for me. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
All right, so I guess we're going to go and get ourselves some food. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
-Yeah. -And I think you're going to be busking, Dad, | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
outside to top the pot up. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
Yeah, I am. I'm going to get a coat on as well, I'm freezing. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
Tonight is going to be grim. Having a night's kip. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
It is, isn't it? It's going to be bloody freezing. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
The scent of success. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:56 | |
100 miles away, there's another landlord | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
who has agreed to give up his luxury living for a week. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
It's always a bit of a hive of activity | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
at Success HQ, as we call it. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
Paul Preston has made millions over the past ten years from his rentals. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:13 | |
Have we had the flight times through? | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
-2nd of April, yeah? -No, March because ski trip's first, isn't it? | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
-And you need to think about the champagne reception. -Yeah. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
40-year-old Paul lives in an exclusive apartment | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
with his personal trainer girlfriend Priya. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
My name for Priya is Queen P, | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
so... I don't know how it started, but it's definitely stuck. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
I like the finer things in life. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
Paul likes the finer things in life, just to make me happy. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
This is Priya's special going-on-holiday handbag. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
This is a limited edition. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
We have a fantastic lifestyle. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:47 | |
Lots of great holidays. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
Thailand, Sydney, Melbourne, Val d'Isere... | 0:12:49 | 0:12:54 | |
I couldn't even give you a figure as to how many times we go away a year. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
-Ibiza... -Oh, yeah. -New York. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
-Yeah. -Dubai. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
Our outgoings per week come to about £1,500. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
My Jimmy Choos. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
-Look at that smile! -HE LAUGHS | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
A girl's got to have her shoes and her handbags. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
Paul has made his property fortune by splitting up houses | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
and turning them into HMOs - houses of multiple occupation - | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
where he can rent out the rooms individually. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
So, as always, we're on 100% occupancy. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
-It's just natural turnover. -Yeah. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
And he has a team to manage his HMO empire. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
I don't think that it's essential | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
that you know your tenants personally | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
in order to run a good business. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
Because I don't need to be that hands on, | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
I can really follow my passion and do what I really love doing, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
which is helping other people to achieve the life of their dreams | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
through property investing. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
Hey, it's Paul Preston here, the HMO guy, | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
and welcome again to New York City. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
When you can combine vocation and vacation, | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
that's really the ultimate. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
Paul's property mentoring earns him a healthy second income | 0:14:00 | 0:14:04 | |
and thousands of followers on social media. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
Do a press-up now. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:08 | |
Not tomorrow. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
You pause the video now and do one press up now. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
Paul's about to step out of his high-flying life for a week. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:17 | |
Just getting together my, I guess, business essentials, really. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
Laptops and a phone and we'll be ready to rock and roll. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
And with his Queen P... | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
Gym kit scales. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
..step into the shoes of one of his tenants. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
I think I'm going to learn about what it's like to live as a tenant | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
and, of course, I've done that myself in the past, | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
but not in recent years. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
I'll hopefully learn more about my business and about the properties. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:43 | |
I'm excited about the opportunity and... | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
Queen P living on a budget! | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:14:48 | 0:14:49 | |
That's the best, that's going to be the funniest bit. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
-PHONE RINGS -There we go. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
Right. Ah, OK. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
It is close to the town centre. | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
-OK, good. -Cool. I look forward to finding out what it's like. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
Paul will be moving in to one of the HMOs he runs in central Milton Keynes, | 0:15:06 | 0:15:11 | |
home to 29-year-old account manager Hayley and six other tenants. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:16 | |
When I first moved in, | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
I wasn't told who already lived here. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
I've been here now 18 months and I still don't know anything about | 0:15:21 | 0:15:26 | |
anybody that lives here other than their names. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
Unlike a traditional house share, | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
tenants in HMOs have no say in who moves in. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
It would be nice to know who you live with. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
So I don't even know who's walking around the house that I'm in. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
This is Hayley's first experience of renting after a new job meant | 0:15:40 | 0:15:44 | |
she had to move out of her family home 200 miles away. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
Before, when I thought "shared house", I thought maybe | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
a living room, everybody knowing each other. I'd never known anything | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
about an HMO before and didn't realise that's what this was. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
This is the only room in the house that anyone would be able | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
to socialise in other than their own bedrooms. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
The table is more a shelf for what people have cooked, or for utensils | 0:16:02 | 0:16:07 | |
that don't fit in a cupboard. So, this is like a storage area. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
People store their bikes and their rubbish and the recycling. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:16 | |
Obviously, the walls are covered in mould. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
The windows aren't very secure. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
It looks disgusting. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
It looks dirty, it looks grubby. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
Not anything that you'd want to associate with a kitchen. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
This is a makeshift washing line out of Ethernet cable, | 0:16:32 | 0:16:37 | |
a telephone wire. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:38 | |
This used to be where we stored the bin bags, | 0:16:38 | 0:16:43 | |
but the door seems to have come off. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
It would be nicer to not have the rubbish in the kitchen and have it | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
out here. It would be nicer to see from my room that it wasn't so... | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
Such a mess. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:53 | |
And the tenants have spotted that all this rubbish has been | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
a welcome invitation to one kind of guest. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
By chance I did speak to some tenants last week, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
who had informed me that there was a rat in this room, | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
and they had to fight to get it out. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:07 | |
And I know they've been seen in the garden before. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
Hayley pays £575 a month to live in the house, | 0:17:10 | 0:17:15 | |
but spends every weekend with her family. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:17 | |
This house does not feel like a home. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
I would much rather drive for two hours on a Friday night | 0:17:22 | 0:17:27 | |
to my family home | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
than have to spend the weekend here in my room alone. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:34 | |
And after 18 months of living in the house, | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
she's still not met her landlord. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
To be honest, I don't think the landlord has ever considered us. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
Probably only sees it as whether a room is vacant or full. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
I would be surprised if there were problems in the house | 0:17:50 | 0:17:54 | |
and there were things that needed sorting and fixing. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
Like, I would be surprised. | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
For the next few days, Hayley will move into a holiday let nearby. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
Very, very close now. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
All right. I'm a bit nervous, but excited. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
I think it's this one on the end. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:09 | |
-In you go. -OK. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
So, home for the next few days. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
-OK. -Shall we go and have a look at our room first, then? | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
-Yeah. -Cool. So, the stairs look like they need a hoover. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
Yeah, they do need a clean. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
Come on in, baby. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
-Oh, wow. -Oh, this is nice. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
It actually looks like she's made it like home. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
Have a look at this. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
"You are braver than you think, stronger than you look, | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
"more talented than you know | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
"and twice as brilliant as the brightest star." | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
-Ah! -That's my sort of thing. -HE LAUGHS | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
I think I'm maybe going to put this somewhere a little bit | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
more prominent because that's... You know, to make it ours. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
That's what I'd like to wake up and see. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
Do you want to sit here, baby? | 0:19:00 | 0:19:01 | |
OK. There's some money in there. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
-Ooh! -Right, OK, let's have a look. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
"Welcome to my room. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
"I hope you enjoy your time here. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
"I prepare and eat all of my meals in here, | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
"as I don't really use the kitchen." | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
OK. "I'd like to tell you about the other tenants, | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
"but I don't actually really know anything about them. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
"My weekly budget is £99.23." | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
I'm sure, over the course of a year, | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
our personal, social fund budget is more, of course, | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
but £100 a week for food and, | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
you know, maybe a night out, having drinks with a few friends, you know, | 0:19:34 | 0:19:38 | |
is more than manageable. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:39 | |
It'll be fine, be fine. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
-Shall we have a look downstairs? -Yeah. -Cool. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
OK. What do you think? | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
It reminds me of being in a student house. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
I guess it's... It's not spotless. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
I think it could use a little bit of a tidy up. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
With the table pushed against the wall, | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
I would sense that maybe not everybody sits round it to eat together... | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
-So, you know, maybe they do their own thing. -As a housemate living here, I might be tempted | 0:20:02 | 0:20:08 | |
to do what Hayley does and do my things in my room. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
This was here when I bought it. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
Yeah, that maybe is a bit of mould, but... | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
This, I mean, think about this as a shed. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:17 | |
It's just where you put your bike. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
I don't necessarily think that's any issue to be aware of, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
but I will get it looked at. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:26 | |
I will look completely favourably and open-mindedly on any request, | 0:20:26 | 0:20:31 | |
any suggestions. We haven't had any. I don't live here. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
I'm here to learn and I'm here to observe and I'm here to get | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
that perspective and maybe the learning is - | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
everyone's really happy with this, it's great. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
I have to say, I'm feeling a little bit like a rabbit in the headlights at the moment. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:50 | |
-Yeah. -I mean, it's not just the budget, | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
it's the facilities we've got. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
-Yeah. -To deal with it. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
In Essex, Peter and Marc are getting used to life on their tenant's terms. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
Right, let's just do what we need to make one or two meals, | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
because this is a learning curve. We're both out of our depth. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
See, that's £1.59. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
-There's nothing to it, is there? -No. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
I'm thinking pasta, some tinned tomatoes and some meat. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:25 | |
I don't even care what it's going to taste like. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
I just need stodge inside me, you know? | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
I just need to get through tonight. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
-Go round this way. -The budget is so small for the week. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
It feels just like a mountain to climb. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
I'm sort of thinking of phoning Jan up and saying, | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
"Jan, help, can you bring me this, can you bring me that?" | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
I'm more in a survival mode right now. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
-Oh, that stinks! -Yeah, it does. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
Every time we come through that door, I get hit by that. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
I'm too cold to take my coat off. I'm going to leave... | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
I'm going to cook in my coat until it all warms up. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
We should have been packing for the blasted Arctic. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
Peter and Marc's tenant Linda requested | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
that they don't heat the bedrooms as she can't afford it. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
-I'm going in here, then. -Right, you can have that room. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
You've whinged about being here more than I have. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
Well, normally I sleep naked, but... | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
..it's just too cold. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
I've got a thermal socks on, I've got jogging bottoms, | 0:22:24 | 0:22:29 | |
a T-shirt, a hoodie | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
and a fleeced zippy hoodie. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
I just want to make sure that I'm warm so I get a good night's sleep. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
So, this is all right. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:39 | |
OK. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
Oh... | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
While Peter and Marc are living in her flat, | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
Linda is carrying on with her normal routine. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
My first alarm goes off at 4.30. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
Second one goes off at 4.40. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
And when the third one goes off, I get up. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
Linda works three jobs, caring for children with special needs. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
She needs to take two buses to start her first shift at 7am. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
I'm 66 now. I would have liked to have been retired, | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
but I can't afford to retire. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
I work to pay my rent. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
-INTERVIEWER: -When do you think you'll stop working? | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
-Whenever everything stops going up! -SHE LAUGHS | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
I woke up about 5.30. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
Blasted alarm went off at 5.30, so I don't know... | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
I don't know if that's the sort of time she gets up. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
If I was living like this for a year... | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
-Maybe... -I don't know, I can't imagine living like this for a year. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
I'd get depressed. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:01 | |
We were out there, we did a bit of exercise. OK, it was cold, | 0:24:01 | 0:24:05 | |
but Dad and I, our mood was fairly buoyant and uplifted. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
And then we walked back through this door | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
and you're in this environment again | 0:24:11 | 0:24:13 | |
and suddenly, straightaway, it's just like, "Ugh..." | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
Like that. That's how I felt walking through the door. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
But that's not about landlord or a tenant, | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
it's not about being a rich person or a poor person, | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
it's just about how the property is. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
You know, how it's been looked after. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
Eurgh! | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
It just hasn't been cared for. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
There's maintenance issues which haven't been reported to us. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
You know, easy jobs to quickly fix. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
I'm a little bit disappointed in Linda in not coming forward. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:47 | |
If we look here, the silicon seal's gone. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
And it's leaked down and that shelf has bowed, | 0:24:49 | 0:24:53 | |
the chipboard's blown and it's all started to rot away. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
That is where the asset has been damaged | 0:24:56 | 0:25:00 | |
because someone's not just phoned me up | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
and I haven't had a chance to send somebody round | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
and do a ten-minute job for six quid. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
So that's just cost me about 400 quid. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
It's upsetting, you know? | 0:25:12 | 0:25:13 | |
It's an indication of people not having respect for it, you know? | 0:25:13 | 0:25:18 | |
While Peter surveys the damage... | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
-Hi, I'm Marc. -Nice to meet you. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:22 | |
-How you doing, all right? -I'm fine, thank you. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
..Marc wants to know how much they could charge for the flat | 0:25:25 | 0:25:27 | |
if they improved it. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
Two-bedroom flat, ground floor, | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
original kitchen and bathroom. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
At the moment, it's... It's in a bit of a tired condition. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
We're only getting 950 for it. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:38 | |
For an average two-bed in the local area, | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
you are looking in the region of around £1,200. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
-Really? -Yeah, so... -Wow. -And the demand is definitely there for it | 0:25:43 | 0:25:48 | |
at that price. That would be in line with | 0:25:48 | 0:25:50 | |
having a refurbishment at the property. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
On the London-Essex border, Linda's home is just 30 minutes on a train | 0:25:52 | 0:25:57 | |
from the City of London. And five minutes from the station by foot. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:01 | |
Bloody hell, look how close it is, Dad. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
It is, isn't it? It's right on top of it, literally. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
Two years' time from now, this is going to gentrify. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
You're going to get the coffee shops, | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
you're going to get all the things that the commuters want. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
All the landlords are going to start | 0:26:14 | 0:26:16 | |
going for those young, professional tenants. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
The demographic's going to change | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
and the market's going to change with it. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
We've done better than I thought we'd done on this one. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
-Absolutely, we have, yeah. -Yeah. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
In Milton Keynes, landlord Paul and girlfriend Priya | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
are adapting to their tenant's habitat. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
It's a little bit dark here, isn't it? | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
It's actually a bit hard to... | 0:26:39 | 0:26:41 | |
I'm in now, but again, | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
I guess that's part of the learning, | 0:26:43 | 0:26:44 | |
and a lot of the other houses have got security lights | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
that pop on under here. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:48 | |
Oh, my legs! | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
I was a bit surprised when she said she prepares most of her food here | 0:26:52 | 0:26:56 | |
because, obviously, there aren't, you know... There's no hob, | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
there's no sink, there's no "cooking facilities". | 0:26:59 | 0:27:01 | |
But some people like to do their own thing, | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
maintain their own level of privacy. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
Could it be because it was a little bit messy downstairs | 0:27:06 | 0:27:10 | |
and she's obviously not a messy person? | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
It could be. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:13 | |
This probably isn't how we would dine together ordinarily, of course. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:23 | |
It's a bit weird, like, eating it on your lap, though, cos I'm not... | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
-I know, if you were... -I'm just not quite sure how to sit. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
-As a woman... -It's like I need to sort of put my legs together | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
to make a table and that doesn't feel... | 0:27:35 | 0:27:37 | |
As a woman, you cross your legs and, look, I've got a nice table. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:41 | |
If you cross your legs. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:42 | |
This is how I would normally sit, but I'm thinking, | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
I'm balancing my plate on one knee. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:47 | |
That's not... This is only going to go one way and that's wrong. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
I would probably, definitely need a little table and chairs here, | 0:27:50 | 0:27:54 | |
yeah, rather than sitting on my lap every night. Yeah. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
But if it's working for her, seems happy enough, the place is great, | 0:27:57 | 0:28:02 | |
so, you know, something's working here. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
OK, got it. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
After 24 hours of limited heating, | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
Marc's asked his mum to come to their rescue. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
The reason I asked you to bring all this stuff... | 0:28:16 | 0:28:18 | |
-Yeah. -..is because Dad hasn't packed anything... | 0:28:18 | 0:28:22 | |
I've packed for a fashion parade, I've not packed... | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
And Dad doesn't have any warm clothes. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
I don't know why you're so cold. It's warm in here. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
-Right. -Go and stand in that bedroom. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
OK. And you're not allowed to heat the bed... | 0:28:35 | 0:28:37 | |
-Oh. -There's other things as well. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
Just give that a tap. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:41 | |
Oh. It's dangerous, isn't it? | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
I think you've come in here not too soon, really. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:49 | |
-Yeah. -Yeah. Well, there's other things that we... | 0:28:49 | 0:28:51 | |
Aren't you surprised that one of your places is...? | 0:28:51 | 0:28:55 | |
I'm horrified. And I'm looking forward to getting to the bottom of | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
-what's going on. -I don't think it's her fault, I think she needs help. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:02 | |
-Yeah. -So, how old is Linda, do you know? | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
So, she's middle... | 0:29:04 | 0:29:05 | |
What's middle-aged? Come on, 40 or 60? | 0:29:05 | 0:29:07 | |
All we can say is that she's got a couple of grown-up kids, | 0:29:07 | 0:29:11 | |
-maybe late 20s. -So in her 50s, maybe? | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
-Yeah. -And does she work? | 0:29:13 | 0:29:14 | |
She works at the council, doesn't she? | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
-Yeah, yeah. -Really? -The council, yeah. It's not a lot of money. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
We got a statement from her employer | 0:29:19 | 0:29:21 | |
-and it actually said what her annual salary was. -And it's not a lot? | 0:29:21 | 0:29:25 | |
-And it's not a lot. -This is a completely different property | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
to any of the others I've ever be then. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
The others are all really, really well-kept. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
They've mostly got young professional couples, | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
and if there's anything wrong, | 0:29:37 | 0:29:38 | |
it could be 11 o'clock at night and you'll get a phone call, | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
"This isn't right, that's not right." | 0:29:41 | 0:29:43 | |
And they're in, getting it fixed straightaway, | 0:29:43 | 0:29:45 | |
as is the way you'd want to live. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:47 | |
I still can't see why anybody would not report things | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
that are only going to make it better for them, | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
because it's not like you're going to charge her for mending her taps. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:56 | |
Maybe a leaky tap is the least of her issues. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:58 | |
-Maybe, financially, she's struggling. -It's all a bit of a bombshell, Jan. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:01 | |
I think, you know, bombshell, shell-shocked. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
We need to think about what we're going to do | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
and I think refurbing is... part of that. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:13 | |
I think it would be a wasted investment. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:15 | |
-What are your concerns, then? -Listen, listen. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
It's going to cost you about 9K to gut and refit the kitchen and bathroom. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:24 | |
In two years' time, we would bin the whole bloody lot. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
Why would we have to bin the whole lot? | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
Because I don't think Linda would look after it. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
Don't you think there's an ethical issue here? | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
No. I don't want to get too emotionally involved, | 0:30:36 | 0:30:40 | |
I want to steer away from that. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
There's a lot to think about. My head's spinning. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
The good business sense is to refurbish this place | 0:30:45 | 0:30:49 | |
and find a young couple or a family who have the affordability, | 0:30:49 | 0:30:53 | |
but the issue here is that we bought this place with Linda in it | 0:30:53 | 0:30:57 | |
and she considers it her home. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
Oh. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:03 | |
I live a really nice life | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
and I owe that to my tenants, so I... | 0:31:08 | 0:31:13 | |
Yeah. It sucks. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:15 | |
-INTERVIEWER: -What sucks? -It's... | 0:31:19 | 0:31:21 | |
It sucks to... It's almost like a poverty trap, | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
and I've been living in a bit of a bubble. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:28 | |
I've just realised. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:30 | |
I thought it was about being cold and all the problems and the drama, | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
but actually, what's been building up underneath the surface is... | 0:31:38 | 0:31:42 | |
..knowing that I'm responsible for somebody else's living conditions. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:48 | |
I never imagined it would be like this. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:52 | |
Morning, baby. Love you. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
-Little Queen, Little Prince. -Zero... -Little fluffy princess. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:10 | |
-Big guns. -No, it's "Big King" you're supposed to say. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:15 | |
In the Milton Keynes HMO, | 0:32:15 | 0:32:17 | |
Paul and Priya are waking up to their tenant's life. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
Nice day outside, baby. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:22 | |
-Oh, yeah. -So far, I'm happy doing everything in one room. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:26 | |
At home, do we have separate work space, separate living space, | 0:32:26 | 0:32:31 | |
separate...? Yeah, we do, but therein lies the trade-off. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
I know that my cost of living is certainly a lot higher than this now. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:39 | |
-This one's yours. -Cool. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:41 | |
Breakfast of champions. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:43 | |
But from now on, Paul will be cooking for himself. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:47 | |
Priya's going back home to their luxury flat... | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
Love you, Queen Bee. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:51 | |
..so Paul can experience HMO life on his own. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:55 | |
Love you. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:56 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
Little Queen. | 0:32:58 | 0:32:59 | |
-Love you, Little Queen. -Love you. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
Maybe it will feel a bit different being by myself, I don't know. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:05 | |
I don't necessarily believe that the model is isolating, at all. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:11 | |
I don't believe that. I think people make personal decisions | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
as to how much they want to interact with others or not. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
-Hi, mate, how are you? -Good, thanks, you? | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
Yeah, good, I'm Paul, how are you? | 0:33:22 | 0:33:23 | |
Housemate Lewis has lived here for three years. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:26 | |
Do you know people, do you spend much time together here, | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
or do you more do your own thing a bit? | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
We don't really spend much time outside of the house. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
It's kind of, inside of the house we meet in the kitchen, but, yeah, | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
-not really socially as such. -OK. If there was a wish list, | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
is there anything that you think would make a real difference to | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 | |
-living here? -Definitely the area out there. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:46 | |
-OK. -The window's pretty rotten now. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
-Right. -And it's not very secure. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:51 | |
-OK. -I've got two bikes out there | 0:33:51 | 0:33:53 | |
that I've spent quite a lot of money on, so I do worry about that. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:57 | |
Have you mentioned that, or raised that as a maintenance issue | 0:33:57 | 0:34:00 | |
to the other Paul or to the team at the office? | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
I haven't personally, no. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:04 | |
I know the other guys had done it previously, so I kind of thought, | 0:34:04 | 0:34:08 | |
well, you know, they already know about it. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
Other than that, happy with everything here? | 0:34:10 | 0:34:12 | |
We've got a bit of a rat problem as well. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:14 | |
-Right, OK. -I think there's a bit of a large family living in the shed. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:18 | |
Oh, right, OK, OK. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:20 | |
One of them's pretty big as well. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
Right. All right. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:23 | |
In respect of the furry family, | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
it is something that happens in built-up areas, | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
so you're only ever ten feet from a London rat, or something. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:36 | |
So there's obviously a balance of, we can fix what we know about. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:40 | |
I think one or two of these issues, | 0:34:40 | 0:34:42 | |
I think we could have probably visually picked up, | 0:34:42 | 0:34:44 | |
but, equally, a couple of those things, people are saying, | 0:34:44 | 0:34:47 | |
"Well, it doesn't bother us and we never reported it." | 0:34:47 | 0:34:49 | |
So how would we know as well? | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
With everyone paying around the £600 mark, | 0:34:54 | 0:34:56 | |
that's a lot of money for five different rooms to be spending, | 0:34:56 | 0:35:00 | |
so it is a little bit disappointing when you've asked for things | 0:35:00 | 0:35:04 | |
to be done and it takes so long, when you know that the profit | 0:35:04 | 0:35:08 | |
that they're getting out of it is quite high. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
Landlords want to invest in Milton Keynes because of the high demand | 0:35:14 | 0:35:18 | |
for rentals in the commuter town. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:20 | |
Where I'm actually taking you now is the first HMO I actually acquired | 0:35:21 | 0:35:26 | |
as a deliberate investment. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:28 | |
This is actually one of mine. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:29 | |
This one here's another one of mine. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:31 | |
That's another one just here. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:32 | |
This is actually another one of mine. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
Paul has over 100 tenants in the town, | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
making him tens of thousands of pounds' monthly profit. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:41 | |
When you've found a property model that works, a layout, | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
a floor plan that works, you don't need to go somewhere else | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
and try and reinvent the wheel again. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:49 | |
Just get more of those properties in the same area. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:51 | |
This is the very first HMO I actually bought myself, | 0:35:51 | 0:35:55 | |
where it all started. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:57 | |
This particular property is an example. | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
If it was rented out as a single-let property, | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
it would probably fetch around about £1,000 a month in gross rent, | 0:36:03 | 0:36:08 | |
so maybe that could make | 0:36:08 | 0:36:10 | |
approximately £500 per month profit. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
However, by converting the property into a multi-let property | 0:36:12 | 0:36:16 | |
and renting the rooms out individually, | 0:36:16 | 0:36:18 | |
the profit goes up to between £1,000 and £1,500 a month | 0:36:18 | 0:36:23 | |
on exactly the same house. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:24 | |
In recent years, the local council has started | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
to limit the number of HMOs in the area. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:29 | |
What they're worried about is maybe suburbs becoming overcrowded | 0:36:31 | 0:36:35 | |
or maybe a bit more like ghettos. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
I think that's one of the words I've heard used. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
Then, equally, it's the same council that are saying, | 0:36:41 | 0:36:44 | |
"We've got a waiting list for property, we haven't got enough accommodation." | 0:36:44 | 0:36:47 | |
And yet there's landlords here that want to provide accessible, affordable accommodation. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:51 | |
You could look at an HMO and think, "Wow, that one house actually houses five or six people now. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:56 | |
"Great. So we've got six units of accommodation out of one property." | 0:36:56 | 0:37:00 | |
With demand for housing in Milton Keynes growing faster than supply, | 0:37:01 | 0:37:05 | |
rents in the town are 4% above the national average. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:09 | |
But for this week, Hayley's enjoying her temporary accommodation. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:14 | |
It's nice to have an oven, it's nice to have... | 0:37:14 | 0:37:17 | |
..a microwave out of my bedroom. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:20 | |
It's nice to have a big fridge as well. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:25 | |
I feel like I could do maybe a week's shop, rather than a few days. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:29 | |
Being in this flat has definitely made me wonder | 0:37:29 | 0:37:33 | |
what else is out there. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:34 | |
One bedroom apartment, all bills included. £1,600 a month. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:38 | |
It's expensive. If I wanted to get a one-bedroom flat in Milton Keynes, | 0:37:38 | 0:37:42 | |
it looks like I'd have next to no... | 0:37:42 | 0:37:43 | |
..spending money. All of my money, it looks like, | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
would have to go onto rent. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:49 | |
Since 2008, the housing crisis has made it | 0:37:49 | 0:37:53 | |
increasingly expensive for young renters. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
Landlord Paul was also hit hard by the recession | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
when he lost his first business - | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
a multi-million-pound recruitment agency. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
I lost everything. It went fast. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
I actually found myself working as a cleaner, you know, | 0:38:09 | 0:38:13 | |
making around about £6 an hour. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
I knew I had to do something different in my life | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
to get out of that place that I was in. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
To keep his head above water, | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
Paul started to rent out his five-bedroom house by the room. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:26 | |
Although I wasn't doing it to be an investor, | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
I was doing it because I was desperate at the time, | 0:38:29 | 0:38:31 | |
that was kind of like the light bulb moment. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
I just needed more of these properties, because I could | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
quite easily see that even with just a couple of them, | 0:38:37 | 0:38:40 | |
I could actually be more than back on my feet. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:42 | |
I probably stumbled across the solution, really, | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
not because I thought I was a clever investor, | 0:38:44 | 0:38:46 | |
but because I was desperate at the time. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
Come on in, Patrick. This is the main bedroom. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
Before Peter and Marc can make any long-term decisions, | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
they need to get to the bottom | 0:39:01 | 0:39:02 | |
of what's causing the mould in Linda's home. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
Look, there's damp. It's travelling down this side wall now, as well. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:09 | |
Would you advise that the tenant keeps this room | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
-at a certain temperature? -Yes, of course, yeah. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
-Right. -It shouldn't be turned off and then put on sporadically. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:20 | |
You know, these walls need to keep... | 0:39:20 | 0:39:22 | |
They need to be dried. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:24 | |
Even if we did this to a real high standard, | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
without adequate heating on, | 0:39:27 | 0:39:28 | |
it's just going to end up with mould on the walls again. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
So the tenant who lives here | 0:39:31 | 0:39:33 | |
has to be able to afford those energy bills. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
-All right. -Cheers. -Thank you. Bye-bye. -See you. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:38 | |
These are Linda's bills. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
-Oh, right. -Her actual bills. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:45 | |
So, basically, she is paying 30 quid a week for electric. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:50 | |
And then some real clear indicators that Linda's struggling. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:54 | |
To be honest, whether we do new kitchen, new bathroom, | 0:39:54 | 0:39:58 | |
-or whatever... -This ain't going away. -This ain't... | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
-This is an issue that needs rectifying. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
If you can't afford to put the heating on, you can't afford to live here. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
Maybe it's time that she thought about moving into | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
a smaller property, then, you know, a one-bed flat. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:13 | |
But... Dad, we're coming at it from some pretty different perspectives, | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
-because I'm actually concerned... -I've just found out... | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
I'm concerned for Linda, | 0:40:19 | 0:40:20 | |
but I'm also concerned for us and I'm concerned for our business. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:24 | |
Tomorrow, Peter and Marc will be meeting Linda | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
to discuss their concerns. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:29 | |
How are you feeling about tomorrow, Mum? Honestly? | 0:40:29 | 0:40:31 | |
I am worried what's going to be said. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
I want to stay where I am, I don't want to move nowhere. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
Because it's close to all my family, my children. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
I'm afraid that after all this has happened, he's going to put me out. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:44 | |
Not having a tenancy agreement, she's living here on borrowed time, | 0:40:44 | 0:40:48 | |
basically. The landlord can come in and kick you out whenever he wants | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
and don't have to have a reason why. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
Do you think he would do that, though, Mum? | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
If he did do it, then I'd have to go. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
Well, I'd have nowhere to go, wouldn't I? | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
Linda's worries are justified. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:02 | |
The ending of a short-term tenancy has become | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
the single most common cause of homelessness in Britain. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
One of the things we want to find out is, how realistic is it | 0:41:15 | 0:41:19 | |
that she can actually continue to live here in the future? | 0:41:19 | 0:41:24 | |
Because if she is having difficulty heating it, that's an issue. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
Here we are, Marc, this is it. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:31 | |
I want to find out more about Linda's situation. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
Looking at those bills yesterday, | 0:41:34 | 0:41:36 | |
we suspect that she's struggling financially, | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
and it's never easy having those conversations. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:43 | |
I want to know what the situation is. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:46 | |
We may not like what we hear and we may not... | 0:41:46 | 0:41:50 | |
..be comfortable with the solutions. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:53 | |
Linda is bringing her son Les with her for moral support. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:56 | |
Well, Linda, we had a few shocks. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
We came in and we found that, you know, | 0:42:01 | 0:42:05 | |
a few things weren't working and that, and we also found the damp. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:09 | |
-It's got worse. -And it's a real shock to us. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
-I'm just surprised you haven't phoned us. -You knew about the damp. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
That was there when you bought the property. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
When we put that unit in, did it actually address the problem, | 0:42:17 | 0:42:21 | |
-did the damp go away? -No. Only the living room. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:25 | |
Part of the damp problem is to do with the fact that | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
if you're not affording to heat your house... | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
We were wondering, is there a wider issue going on - | 0:42:30 | 0:42:32 | |
because we did see the electric bills - | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
and whether you can actually afford to live there? | 0:42:35 | 0:42:37 | |
I'm managing. But I go without food and everything, | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
as long as I've got my roof over my head. That's my main priority. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:44 | |
I'm sure you understand it wouldn't be ethical of us | 0:42:44 | 0:42:48 | |
to let someone live there if they were struggling every single month. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:52 | |
I needed my tenancy agreement so that I could go down to the council and show them | 0:42:52 | 0:42:57 | |
my rent had been increased and that I needed more help with my rent. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:00 | |
-Yeah. -I couldn't prove it, because I didn't have the tenancy. -The one you got originally. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:04 | |
-Yeah. -As soon as it goes beyond 12 months, | 0:43:04 | 0:43:06 | |
it goes on what's called a rolling contract. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:08 | |
It's been a great worry. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:10 | |
Worrying if she was going to lose her home. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:13 | |
Yeah, it goes on in your mind. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:14 | |
-Yeah. -Being as I'm old as well, you know... | 0:43:14 | 0:43:19 | |
You say that you actually get housing benefit already? | 0:43:19 | 0:43:22 | |
Yeah, I get £120 a month. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:24 | |
Have you considered moving into a smaller flat? | 0:43:24 | 0:43:28 | |
I don't want to go into an actual smaller flat, | 0:43:28 | 0:43:30 | |
because I have my family come round. | 0:43:30 | 0:43:33 | |
There's always a room available for someone to be there, | 0:43:33 | 0:43:35 | |
just to make sure she's all right. I mean, with her arthritis and that, | 0:43:35 | 0:43:39 | |
it does play her up at times. | 0:43:39 | 0:43:42 | |
-Arthritis. Right. -She's got osteoarthritis. | 0:43:42 | 0:43:45 | |
-Right, OK. -She's contacted the council. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:47 | |
The only thing they'd be able to offer would be sheltered housing. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:50 | |
It's like years' waiting list. | 0:43:50 | 0:43:53 | |
-Right. -So, you know, she's got no option. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:55 | |
I'm 66 now, I'm still working, doing my three jobs. | 0:43:55 | 0:43:59 | |
My first priority is my rent. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:01 | |
How long do you intend to keep working for? | 0:44:03 | 0:44:05 | |
-I'll keep working until they tell me I can't work no more. -Right. -Right. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:10 | |
We found out a lot in that meeting. | 0:44:11 | 0:44:13 | |
It turns out that Linda's 66 and still working. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:17 | |
I'm 66, I'm still working. | 0:44:17 | 0:44:20 | |
I suppose the difference is that I choose to do what I do. | 0:44:20 | 0:44:25 | |
I've always had a sense of freedom, a sense of independence, | 0:44:25 | 0:44:28 | |
a sense of choice. | 0:44:28 | 0:44:30 | |
And to absolutely have to work to pay the rent, | 0:44:30 | 0:44:33 | |
it sounds like a hard life to me. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:36 | |
-INTERVIEWER: -How do you think you'd feel if you were in that position? | 0:44:36 | 0:44:40 | |
I don't know how I'd feel. I don't think I'd feel good. | 0:44:40 | 0:44:43 | |
To give them more time to decide what to do, Peter and Marc | 0:44:48 | 0:44:51 | |
have asked Linda to stay out of her flat for one more week. | 0:44:51 | 0:44:55 | |
They stated they didn't have any idea that it was that bad. | 0:44:55 | 0:44:59 | |
-He looked at the electric bills and that. -Yeah. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:04 | |
But then he started questioning me | 0:45:04 | 0:45:05 | |
whether I can afford to live in the flat. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:07 | |
Are they looking at not renewing her tenancy? | 0:45:07 | 0:45:11 | |
-No. -For me, I'll be honest, where he's brought up her finances | 0:45:11 | 0:45:15 | |
makes me feel that he's pushing whether she can live there or not. | 0:45:15 | 0:45:19 | |
There was no malice involved in it. | 0:45:19 | 0:45:22 | |
OK. There's a new rail they're doing that's meant to be a quicker train | 0:45:22 | 0:45:25 | |
into London and they're doing it on the rail that Mum's living at. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:28 | |
They're going through Chadwell Heath. | 0:45:28 | 0:45:30 | |
I'm just saying, like, that's the only time | 0:45:30 | 0:45:33 | |
he can put that rent up more, | 0:45:33 | 0:45:34 | |
is when that train rail goes through. | 0:45:34 | 0:45:36 | |
She can't afford no more than 950, Les. That will make her homeless. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:39 | |
It's still the unknown. She's got no control over | 0:45:39 | 0:45:43 | |
what the landlord's going to do to the property, | 0:45:43 | 0:45:45 | |
or what he wants to do for the future. | 0:45:45 | 0:45:47 | |
She is powerless. | 0:45:47 | 0:45:49 | |
In central Milton Keynes, Paul is preparing to meet his tenant. | 0:45:56 | 0:46:00 | |
I'm looking forward to meeting Hayley, | 0:46:00 | 0:46:02 | |
to find out about her experience living here as a housemate. | 0:46:02 | 0:46:06 | |
Of course, I'm going to ask her how does she think we can improve, | 0:46:06 | 0:46:09 | |
are there any issues that she's got that she'd like to raise to us? | 0:46:09 | 0:46:13 | |
I hope he's had the real experience, he's had to... | 0:46:14 | 0:46:19 | |
..hear people moving around that he doesn't know, | 0:46:20 | 0:46:23 | |
he's had to sit in his room because there's nowhere else to go. | 0:46:23 | 0:46:26 | |
I hope he's seen that if he wants people to stay, then... | 0:46:26 | 0:46:31 | |
there's changes that need to be made and standards that need to be kept. | 0:46:31 | 0:46:35 | |
This will be the first time the two have ever spoken to one another. | 0:46:38 | 0:46:43 | |
Your room is immaculate. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:45 | |
-Thank you. -Thank you. -THEY LAUGH | 0:46:45 | 0:46:47 | |
Clearly you're ultra-houseproud. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:49 | |
And then when I went down into the communal kitchen, | 0:46:49 | 0:46:52 | |
I was like, "Uh." And that did... | 0:46:52 | 0:46:54 | |
It did kind of, like, bring me down a little bit. | 0:46:54 | 0:46:57 | |
-I don't like to use the kitchen. -Yeah. | 0:46:57 | 0:46:59 | |
Just because of how it looks. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:00 | |
-OK. -So I pretty much bypass the kitchen entirely... | 0:47:00 | 0:47:03 | |
-Yeah. -..and go straight to the room. -OK. -I think it would be nice | 0:47:03 | 0:47:06 | |
to be able to sit at a table with another person. | 0:47:06 | 0:47:08 | |
As it is, I wouldn't invite another person into that kitchen. | 0:47:08 | 0:47:11 | |
I got the impression that you didn't really know the other housemates | 0:47:11 | 0:47:14 | |
-that well. -No, not at all. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:16 | |
When I first moved in, I think I met one within the first two weeks. | 0:47:16 | 0:47:20 | |
-Since then, there have been changes. -Yeah. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:22 | |
But I haven't really seen or met them or spoken to them. | 0:47:22 | 0:47:25 | |
-Would you feel more comfortable, and it would be better for you if you did? -Absolutely. | 0:47:25 | 0:47:29 | |
-The initial first meeting's normally bumping into each other... -Yeah. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:32 | |
It would be weird if it's someone you've never seen before and they're suddenly inside the building. | 0:47:32 | 0:47:36 | |
-Exactly. -Should they be inside the building, has someone let them in accidentally? So it would be nice. | 0:47:36 | 0:47:40 | |
What I think our process is, is that when someone new is about to move in, | 0:47:40 | 0:47:45 | |
everyone in the house will get a text saying, | 0:47:45 | 0:47:47 | |
"Just to let you know, Dave's moving into room two on Tuesday, | 0:47:47 | 0:47:51 | |
"feel free to say hello." Are you saying that you don't...? | 0:47:51 | 0:47:54 | |
-Never seen that, no. -That's why I thought it was happening. | 0:47:54 | 0:47:56 | |
I don't know if you've been out of the house while it's been dark | 0:47:56 | 0:47:59 | |
and then tried to get back into the house while it's been dark. | 0:47:59 | 0:48:02 | |
I have, actually. It was fine in the day, | 0:48:02 | 0:48:05 | |
but when you come back at night, it is... | 0:48:05 | 0:48:07 | |
-It's pretty dark. -It can be quite intimidating. | 0:48:07 | 0:48:10 | |
-OK. -And your heart does kind of stop until you get inside the door. | 0:48:10 | 0:48:13 | |
OK. When you're actually in the house, in your room, | 0:48:13 | 0:48:17 | |
-would you feel safe enough then? -Yeah, I tend to lock myself in. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:20 | |
I wouldn't necessarily leave anything out outside, or anything. | 0:48:20 | 0:48:23 | |
-Sure. -Downstairs. I don't know if you've seen the back window. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:26 | |
Yeah, I have. I think it's something | 0:48:26 | 0:48:29 | |
that we probably should have picked up | 0:48:29 | 0:48:31 | |
when we were inspecting earlier, as well, | 0:48:31 | 0:48:33 | |
but I don't think anyone's ever mentioned it. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:36 | |
It's easy enough for somebody to text, | 0:48:36 | 0:48:38 | |
but you're relying on maybe eight rooms of people to text. | 0:48:38 | 0:48:40 | |
Maybe somebody's already done it. | 0:48:40 | 0:48:42 | |
Now Paul has met Hayley, | 0:48:43 | 0:48:45 | |
he has to decide how much he wants to change in the property | 0:48:45 | 0:48:49 | |
before she returns home. | 0:48:49 | 0:48:50 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:48:50 | 0:48:53 | |
-'Hello.' -Hi, Queen Bee, it's me. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:55 | |
-'How did it go?' -It was really informative. | 0:48:55 | 0:48:58 | |
I think overall, my biggest take away is that I think, historically, | 0:48:58 | 0:49:02 | |
perhaps we've been looking at the functionality of these houses | 0:49:02 | 0:49:06 | |
and is everything working OK? | 0:49:06 | 0:49:08 | |
But I think what I'm really learning is that we should very much be | 0:49:08 | 0:49:12 | |
focusing on these properties as HOMES | 0:49:12 | 0:49:15 | |
rather than just houses to live in. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:17 | |
I think he's got to be true to his word now. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:21 | |
If he's saying he's noticed something, then I think, | 0:49:21 | 0:49:23 | |
as a responsible landlord, he would want to make that change now, | 0:49:23 | 0:49:27 | |
so we'll see. | 0:49:27 | 0:49:28 | |
This week has really taught me a lot about gentrification. | 0:49:35 | 0:49:39 | |
My attitude before this week was, "Well, what's the problem?" | 0:49:39 | 0:49:42 | |
You've got a rundown area, | 0:49:42 | 0:49:44 | |
the government invests money in that area, | 0:49:44 | 0:49:47 | |
you put all the nice coffee shops in, | 0:49:47 | 0:49:49 | |
you get the young professionals in there, | 0:49:49 | 0:49:51 | |
and the people who live there currently, | 0:49:51 | 0:49:53 | |
yeah, they can't afford it, but that's fine, they can move. | 0:49:53 | 0:49:56 | |
Living here, I see it's not as simple as that. | 0:49:56 | 0:49:59 | |
-It's more complicated than that. -It's so complicated. | 0:49:59 | 0:50:01 | |
After spending time in their tenants' homes, | 0:50:03 | 0:50:05 | |
the landlords are about to leave. | 0:50:05 | 0:50:08 | |
Anything else I can take to the car? Suitcase? | 0:50:08 | 0:50:10 | |
So the tenants can move back in. | 0:50:13 | 0:50:15 | |
I'm feeling really excited. I can't wait to see... | 0:50:20 | 0:50:23 | |
..what changes have been made, if any. | 0:50:24 | 0:50:27 | |
-Looking forward to getting home now? -I am, yeah, of course. | 0:50:29 | 0:50:32 | |
-Seeing Yogi. -Yeah. | 0:50:32 | 0:50:34 | |
Yes. Little bear. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:35 | |
That was an experience. | 0:50:36 | 0:50:38 | |
-Yes. -An eye-opener, wasn't it, really? -Epic. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:41 | |
-We can't allow properties to get in that state. -No. | 0:50:41 | 0:50:44 | |
And we can't go on the happy assumption | 0:50:44 | 0:50:47 | |
-that people will call us. -No. | 0:50:47 | 0:50:49 | |
The week in the flat was brutal all the way through. | 0:50:49 | 0:50:52 | |
I'm happy to be going home. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:55 | |
A bit unaware of what's going to be there when I get there. | 0:50:55 | 0:50:59 | |
What has been done and what hasn't been done. | 0:50:59 | 0:51:02 | |
If they put the rent up, I will never be able to afford that. | 0:51:02 | 0:51:06 | |
Because that would then totally take away my weekly... | 0:51:08 | 0:51:11 | |
You know, that's what I live on. | 0:51:11 | 0:51:13 | |
After you, baby. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:19 | |
Yogi Bear! | 0:51:19 | 0:51:21 | |
Ah, Yogi Bear! | 0:51:21 | 0:51:24 | |
Good to see you. Ahhh! | 0:51:24 | 0:51:27 | |
The light! I can actually see where the key is! | 0:51:34 | 0:51:38 | |
So he's added on a maintenance check. | 0:51:44 | 0:51:48 | |
One's already on there, so I won't need to report it. | 0:51:48 | 0:51:51 | |
Oh, wow! | 0:51:55 | 0:51:57 | |
He's changed everything. | 0:51:57 | 0:52:00 | |
It's all bright and clean. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:02 | |
So much fresher now. So much nicer. | 0:52:02 | 0:52:05 | |
Such a difference. | 0:52:05 | 0:52:08 | |
So we've got a table we can fit more people round and a TV. | 0:52:08 | 0:52:11 | |
I think it's great. | 0:52:11 | 0:52:12 | |
I think it will create more time spent in here | 0:52:12 | 0:52:15 | |
with the other tenants. | 0:52:15 | 0:52:17 | |
Oh, we've got proper dustbins. | 0:52:19 | 0:52:21 | |
You can walk to the bottom of the yard | 0:52:22 | 0:52:24 | |
without having your head chopped off. | 0:52:24 | 0:52:25 | |
You can already see that people are using the washing line, | 0:52:25 | 0:52:28 | |
whereas before, I don't think anybody used it. | 0:52:28 | 0:52:30 | |
It's much better. | 0:52:30 | 0:52:32 | |
Aw! | 0:52:35 | 0:52:36 | |
"Dear Hayley, thank you so much for allowing me to stay in your room this last week. | 0:52:38 | 0:52:42 | |
"I've learnt a huge amount from the experience | 0:52:42 | 0:52:44 | |
"and I've definitely learned that I should see my properties | 0:52:44 | 0:52:47 | |
"as shared homes rather than shared houses. | 0:52:47 | 0:52:48 | |
"I would also like to pay you all to go out for dinner | 0:52:48 | 0:52:51 | |
"and get to know each other better. | 0:52:51 | 0:52:52 | |
"Going forward, I plan to be more hands-on | 0:52:52 | 0:52:54 | |
"and will personally inspect the property every six months. | 0:52:54 | 0:52:57 | |
"There will also be a six-monthly professional deep clean of the communal spaces." | 0:52:57 | 0:53:01 | |
I think in the past, I've looked at renting rooms to people | 0:53:01 | 0:53:04 | |
like a transaction with clients. | 0:53:04 | 0:53:06 | |
And I think maybe that's a bit too business-like now. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:10 | |
Having had the experience of living there, | 0:53:10 | 0:53:12 | |
I actually realise just how valuable human interaction is for people | 0:53:12 | 0:53:16 | |
and, as a landlord, I definitely want to ensure that I'm creating | 0:53:16 | 0:53:20 | |
an environment which is much more conducive, you know, | 0:53:20 | 0:53:23 | |
to friendships, warmth, you know, | 0:53:23 | 0:53:25 | |
familiarity, than maybe that we have done in the past. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:29 | |
In Essex, Marc has decided he wants to be there when Linda moves back in. | 0:53:30 | 0:53:35 | |
I'm nervous about meeting Linda today. | 0:53:35 | 0:53:36 | |
I'm nervous about how she's going to react. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:39 | |
I hope she understands our decision | 0:53:39 | 0:53:41 | |
and I hope she's happy with what we've chosen to do. | 0:53:41 | 0:53:45 | |
-Hi, Linda, how you doing, all right? -I'm fine, thank you. | 0:53:48 | 0:53:51 | |
-How are you doing? All right? -Yeah. -Yeah, good. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:53 | |
Let's just walk round the property | 0:53:53 | 0:53:55 | |
-and we can have a chat about a few things, yeah? -Yeah, OK. | 0:53:55 | 0:53:58 | |
Oh, it's bright. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:04 | |
What we've actually done is, we've completely refurbished the property. | 0:54:09 | 0:54:13 | |
New kitchen, new bathroom, decorated throughout. | 0:54:13 | 0:54:16 | |
Really... | 0:54:20 | 0:54:21 | |
It's beautiful. | 0:54:22 | 0:54:23 | |
SHE SOBS | 0:54:24 | 0:54:26 | |
It looks nice. | 0:54:29 | 0:54:31 | |
We've also completely rectified that damp issue. | 0:54:36 | 0:54:39 | |
All the mould's gone, it smells nicer and brighter. | 0:54:39 | 0:54:44 | |
It's all lovely, it really is. | 0:54:44 | 0:54:46 | |
Like a plush hotel. | 0:54:46 | 0:54:48 | |
It's even better than a hotel. | 0:54:50 | 0:54:52 | |
-Running water. -THEY LAUGH | 0:54:54 | 0:54:56 | |
For me, my point of view, it had to be done. | 0:54:56 | 0:54:58 | |
That place needed to be transformed and, having experienced it, | 0:54:58 | 0:55:03 | |
I don't want anybody to live like that. | 0:55:03 | 0:55:05 | |
I agree with that, I agree with that. | 0:55:05 | 0:55:07 | |
One is always aware that these are real people | 0:55:07 | 0:55:11 | |
with real lives and real feelings. | 0:55:11 | 0:55:13 | |
-Thank you, Marc. -You're welcome. You're very welcome. | 0:55:13 | 0:55:17 | |
This has been an experience for me as well, you know. | 0:55:19 | 0:55:23 | |
And, to be honest, I think I had my head in the clouds a bit, you know. | 0:55:23 | 0:55:26 | |
And I've really learned what responsibilities I have as a landlord. | 0:55:26 | 0:55:30 | |
You know, what it's like for some people. | 0:55:30 | 0:55:32 | |
I know you wanted some security and you were concerned about | 0:55:32 | 0:55:36 | |
rent going up, etc, so I've done a contract for you | 0:55:36 | 0:55:40 | |
and I've done it for 950. | 0:55:40 | 0:55:42 | |
Even though the standard contract is six to 12 months, | 0:55:42 | 0:55:45 | |
I'm happy to do a two-year one. | 0:55:45 | 0:55:47 | |
-Thank you. -Gives you a bit of security. | 0:55:47 | 0:55:49 | |
-Yeah. -Definitely puts her mind at rest. | 0:55:49 | 0:55:52 | |
We've fixed Linda's rent for the next two years. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:55 | |
At that rent, we're still making a profit, | 0:55:55 | 0:55:58 | |
but we're making less of a profit than we could do. | 0:55:58 | 0:56:01 | |
However, it makes business sense, what we've done, | 0:56:01 | 0:56:04 | |
because it's added value to the property. | 0:56:04 | 0:56:06 | |
So we've done all of this and the whole point is that this place stays | 0:56:06 | 0:56:09 | |
warm and dry, so to keep the mould away, we're going to have to keep | 0:56:09 | 0:56:13 | |
the place warm, keep the heaters on a set level. | 0:56:13 | 0:56:16 | |
Now, I don't want you to be concerned about your energy bills, | 0:56:16 | 0:56:21 | |
so we'll work together to get you on the best tariff | 0:56:21 | 0:56:24 | |
and if it does look like your bills are going to go up, | 0:56:24 | 0:56:27 | |
then I'll quite happily pay the difference. | 0:56:27 | 0:56:29 | |
Let me know and we'll do that, | 0:56:29 | 0:56:31 | |
so that you can enjoy a nice living environment. | 0:56:31 | 0:56:35 | |
Thank you. I didn't expect nothing like this. | 0:56:35 | 0:56:38 | |
It's out of this world, really. | 0:56:38 | 0:56:40 | |
Got a new flat, Mum. | 0:56:41 | 0:56:44 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:56:44 | 0:56:45 | |
-What do you think? -Oh, it's lovely. This is nice. | 0:56:51 | 0:56:55 | |
It's better than last time. | 0:56:55 | 0:56:57 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:56:57 | 0:56:58 | |
I've taken a lot out of this experience. | 0:56:58 | 0:57:00 | |
What I'm feeling right now, I'm really, really lucky. | 0:57:00 | 0:57:04 | |
I'm so lucky, because I have control of my own destiny. | 0:57:04 | 0:57:07 | |
That could have been me. | 0:57:07 | 0:57:10 | |
If Dad hadn't taken the steps he's taken in his life, | 0:57:10 | 0:57:13 | |
I could be living on 50 quid a week. But I was really lucky | 0:57:13 | 0:57:17 | |
to have that head start and have the opportunities I had. | 0:57:17 | 0:57:21 | |
Yeah. That's the first time he's ever said that, by the way, | 0:57:21 | 0:57:23 | |
-about being lucky that he had a head start. -HE LAUGHS | 0:57:23 | 0:57:26 | |
I... | 0:57:26 | 0:57:28 |