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I'm Jamelia and I'm a singer. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:06 | |
I'm one of nearly two million single mums living in Britain, | 0:00:06 | 0:00:10 | |
and it's not something I'm proud of. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
I was bought up by a single mum, | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
and I always dreamed of having the perfect nuclear family for my own children. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:20 | |
But things didn't turn out that way, | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
and I've ended up raising my two daughters alone. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
Like any mum, I love my children to bits, | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
but now that I'm on my own, I feel judged by others | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
and disappointed with myself for not doing it the right way. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:38 | |
It doesn't help that single mums are always being given a hard time. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:43 | |
Right, just wait there. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
I'll just be a few hours. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
Don't be giving me baby evils! | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
I want to try and understand why I feel the way I do, | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
by finding out about the experiences of other single mums in the past. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:59 | |
The women who had to hide themselves and their children from the rest of the world. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
She stayed away from anybody in authority - | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
no doctors, no dentists. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
And those for whom this shame was so great, they had to give their newborn babies away. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:15 | |
I felt the longing to have her, to hold her, to keep her. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
But in my head, I knew that I had to give her up. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
I really want to walk in other people's shoes, | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
I want people to tell me their stories and I want to know, | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
what was it like for you? | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
11 years ago, when I was 19, my music career was just taking off. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:52 | |
I was travelling the world, and had won my first big award | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
when I found out I was pregnant. | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
I just remember thinking at that point, "You've messed up." | 0:01:59 | 0:02:04 | |
And I thought once I told my record label, I'd be dropped. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:09 | |
Pull it back. And go. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
That's it. Good girl. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
I never wanted to be a single mum, | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
even now I don't want to be a single mum, | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
that definitely was not one of my ambitions. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
You going to help me do Teja's hair? | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
Why don't you do this one, and then I'll do... | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
-I'll do this one. I'm her stylist. -You're her stylist? | 0:02:29 | 0:02:35 | |
This is Teja, and she's ten, | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
and this is Tiani, and she's five. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:43 | |
They see their dads at least once a week and spend time with them | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
and that's something that I actively encourage, | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
I want them to be close to their dads, | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
I want them to have the father-daughter relationship | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
that I've always wanted myself, | 0:02:54 | 0:02:55 | |
and when their dads come and I see them jump into their arms, | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
I just think, "Aw". It's lovely to see, it really is. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
I had Teja with my first love, | 0:03:03 | 0:03:04 | |
and my first love was by far the wrong love. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
Basically, it was a domestically abusive situation. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:12 | |
And it was just one incident, and I just got out of there. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
And I think that, had I not had Teja, | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
I would not have had the balls to get out. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
When Teja was three, nearly four, I met Darren. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:26 | |
I would describe that as a bit of a whirlwind romance, to be honest. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
I became pregnant quite early on in that relationship, | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
and I didn't want to be on my own, | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
I didn't want to admit to myself, "Oh God, I've failed again." | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
And so we stuck it out for, like, five years. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
It just got to a point where we were just being horrible to each other, | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
and I just thought, "This isn't a nice environment, this is no nicer an environment for our children | 0:03:47 | 0:03:52 | |
"than us being apart." | 0:03:52 | 0:03:53 | |
I'm in no way a promiscuous person or anything like that, | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
but I've got two children by two different dads, | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
it really is something that I'm not proud of, I'm really not proud of. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
I do wish that I'd done it right, | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
and when I say "done it right", I mean, you know, met someone, | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
be with them for years, get married, and then have children, | 0:04:12 | 0:04:16 | |
cos I think that's the right way to do it. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
I want to start by looking at the past, | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
but strangely, there's very little written about single mums. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
War, war, war, | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
Tudors... | 0:04:34 | 0:04:35 | |
Great Harry, the Prince. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
How can I not find anything, not one book? | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
Is it the fact that we're being hidden, you know, | 0:04:42 | 0:04:47 | |
we're being hidden away, as if they didn't exist in history. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:51 | |
How can there just be nothing? | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
But I've heard that 100 years ago, if you were pregnant and unmarried, | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
you could end up living like an outcast. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
I'm off to visit a place which used to take in single mums | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
who had no way of supporting themselves. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
It's called a workhouse, and there was one of these in every town. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
It just looks so bare! | 0:05:26 | 0:05:27 | |
All enclosed in as well, like a prison or something. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:31 | |
Hi, I'm Jamelia. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:35 | |
'My guide, Catherine, is going to show me around.' | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
-Welcome to the workhouse at Southall. -Thank you. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
So basically, 100 years ago, | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
this was probably a place where mothers today, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
single mothers today on benefits, would have ended up? | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
If you were a mother with children and your family's not going to be able to support you, | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
then basically, you're going to be destitute, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
and the only relief that can be offered to you is the workhouse. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
The idea that you've had sex outside of marriage is very bad, | 0:05:59 | 0:06:04 | |
and the Victorians are making a concerted effort | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
to try and stamp it out. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:08 | |
They're doing that because it's very rampant, very prevalent, | 0:06:08 | 0:06:12 | |
it's not like it's not happening, it was very common in society. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
And so they're trying to find a moral way of reforming people. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
Sounds like the workhouse was a kind of hiding place for anyone | 0:06:19 | 0:06:23 | |
that society was embarrassed by, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
"Let's put them in the workhouse," was it that kind of thing? | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
They do have a physical separation, | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
there are high walls round the garden, | 0:06:30 | 0:06:32 | |
so that the people in the workhouse can't see beyond the workhouse, | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
there are no windows on the side wall, so you can't see beyond the workhouse property, | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
and equally, so people can't see in. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
'In the workhouse, unmarried mothers | 0:06:46 | 0:06:47 | |
'were given a bed in a dormitory and three meals a day.' | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
Oh, my gosh! | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
You've got a nice straw mattress, | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
and then a nice scratchy sheet, nothing pleasant about that. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:59 | |
'In return, they had to earn their keep by working in the kitchens, | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
'recycling old rope and scrubbing the floors. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
'They had no privacy, | 0:07:07 | 0:07:08 | |
'and any free time was spent praying for forgiveness. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
'The women could leave the workhouse at any time, | 0:07:12 | 0:07:16 | |
'but many often arrived pregnant, and would stay for several years.' | 0:07:16 | 0:07:21 | |
This was horrible, what was this used for? | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
This was the original infirmary building, | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
so if you were unwell or needed isolating because of your illness, you would come here. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:35 | |
In the case of unmarried mothers, | 0:07:35 | 0:07:36 | |
if you're going to be giving birth, | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
this is where it's going to take place. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
How long would they be in here, before...? | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
They'd be with the babies the first few weeks, and then later on, the babies are separated out | 0:07:45 | 0:07:50 | |
and they'd be in a special area for the younger children. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
With, usually, assistant nurses and a trusted inmate, | 0:07:54 | 0:07:58 | |
perhaps acting as a wet nurse, actually breastfeeding the babies | 0:07:58 | 0:08:02 | |
-on behalf of you and all the other mothers. -OK. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
-Why weren't they able to look after their own babies? -They genuinely believe that, | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
particularly with unmarried mothers, that the mothers are morally dubious, | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
and have made a bad decision in life, | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
and the best thing to do was to whip it away from its mother, | 0:08:15 | 0:08:19 | |
and to show it good Victorian values | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
of, you know, hard work and cleanliness and schooling. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
They don't want the... particularly the unmarried mothers corrupting them. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:30 | |
Honestly, it just seems... | 0:08:30 | 0:08:34 | |
It sounds to me just so kind of heartbreaking, | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
because obviously, I'm a single parent myself, and it doesn't make you any less of a mother | 0:08:37 | 0:08:43 | |
or any less capable as a mother, | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
and just to have your child, in a way, ripped away from you | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
and then being told you're dubious character and stuff like that, | 0:08:50 | 0:08:55 | |
I can't imagine what that must have felt like, it's just heartbreaking. | 0:08:55 | 0:09:01 | |
It's another part of the deterrent. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
The thing that people most fear about the workhouse, | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
apart from the stigma they're going to get from having come here, | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
is that family separation. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
I'd really like to speak to one of the single mums who was in the workhouse, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:19 | |
to find out what it was like to be separated from her children, and the rest of the world. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:24 | |
It's unlikely that any of them are still alive, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
but amazingly, I have managed to track down 91-year-old Bill Golding. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:36 | |
He went into the workhouse with his mum in 1924, | 0:09:36 | 0:09:40 | |
after she was thrown out of her home by her family, | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
for having a second child out of wedlock. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
-Hello Bill, nice to meet you. -Hello, Jamelia. -How are you? Thank you. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:52 | |
-What was your mum's name? -Ida Rose. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
Ida Rose, oh, that's a nice name. That's a nice name. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
Do you remember anything about being there? | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
Um yeah, I do remember the smell there, | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
carbolic and stale bread, | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
and I remember the old women, | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
they always looked old in those days, scrubbing the floors, yeah. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:22 | |
What would your mother's father have thought about her having a child out of wedlock? | 0:10:22 | 0:10:28 | |
Well, disapproved of course. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
It was frowned upon in those days, and, um... | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
Well, the stigma that I carried along with me as well, you see. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:43 | |
You were called a bastard, for starters, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
one thing about embarrassed about things... | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
when I got married, er, in 1945, | 0:10:51 | 0:10:56 | |
where it says, um, "father's name", | 0:10:56 | 0:11:01 | |
rather than say I had no father, | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
I said "Oh, yes, my father was William Golding, deceased" you see, | 0:11:04 | 0:11:11 | |
-so, um... -Oh, so you told a lie? | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
So, so... | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
To save embarrassment for everybody, you know. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:24 | |
So did your wife know you were born out of wedlock? | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
-Er, yes. -Did she know at this point? | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
Um, at that point, no. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:34 | |
Wow. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
I mean, are you happy that the world has changed in the way that it has? | 0:11:36 | 0:11:41 | |
Well, the world gets better all the time, I think, | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
when they talk about the good old days, it was not at all, no. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:51 | |
It's really sad. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
'Bill was sent to a children's home after being in the workhouse, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
'and hardly saw his mum again.' | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
'It really did hit me when Bill kept referring to himself as illegitimate, | 0:12:00 | 0:12:07 | |
'and that he was a bastard, it's just so wrong,' | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
and also for Bill to carry that shame, | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
the shame that his mother put on him, and... | 0:12:15 | 0:12:21 | |
obviously me, I can totally understand how someone ends up | 0:12:21 | 0:12:25 | |
in that situation as the parent, | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
but I cannot understand, or even accept the fact | 0:12:27 | 0:12:33 | |
that Bill himself was penalised | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
for being born within a single parent family, it's just... | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
..awful. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:42 | |
Bill's story has made me realise how lucky I am to be able to | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
come back to a lovely home | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
and look after my own children. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
I know that because of my singing career, | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
I don't have the same money problems as many single mums. | 0:12:56 | 0:13:01 | |
You know, I don't worry about... | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
"I haven't got enough money to buy bread" | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
or "I can't... What are we going to eat tonight?" | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
because I haven't got any money. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
I don't have those worries. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
-I should have did some garlic bread or something. -Oh! | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
I think the hardest thing about being a single mum, is being alone. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:21 | |
It's being, you know, having everything on your back. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:25 | |
The worst times are when, you know, when I'm worried, | 0:13:25 | 0:13:29 | |
when I'm down, when I'm upset, those are the worst times, | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
because I feel as if I don't even have the room to do that, | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
I've got to schedule my tears, you know. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
For instance, going through the divorce, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
I've had times where I've been so down and so depressed | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
and all I want to do is wrap up in my duvet and cry, and I can't. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:51 | |
It's not a splinter, looks like... | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
'I've got to make sure I've done everything else, or seen to their needs first.' | 0:13:53 | 0:13:58 | |
It's not cut, you were ready to cry then! | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
I've discovered that during the Second World War, | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
the number of women having babies out of marriage went up. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
There were also a lot more women raising their kids on their own, | 0:14:15 | 0:14:19 | |
because their husbands were away at war. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
But even in this climate, it seems as if there was | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
still a huge stigma about being an unmarried mum. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
I know this because I'm really struggling to get anyone to talk. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:32 | |
Would you to be willing to share your story? We have tried so hard... | 0:14:33 | 0:14:38 | |
'Eventually I strike gold with Micheline, | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
'who has agreed to tell me her own mum's story.' | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
It seems to be a point in time where that people are kind of | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
embarrassed about, you know, about this subject in particular. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:50 | |
I mean, how does that make you feel? Is it a familiar feeling? | 0:14:51 | 0:14:55 | |
Well, being in this street is very strange, | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
because this is where I grew up and I remember being a tiny kid. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
It's full of memories, but also it's a bit strange for me | 0:15:01 | 0:15:06 | |
to be talking about this, because it's very private, | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
and... | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
I just hope that my mother would... | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
understand the reason that we're doing this. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
Because it's a piece of history, | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
but I'm a little bit uneasy about talking about such a private matter. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:24 | |
This is my mother about the time that I was born. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
-Wow, she looks like a film star! -She does, doesn't she? | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
I always say that, but it's true, isn't it? | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
She came from Leeds in Yorkshire, | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
and she was a fashion designer. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
She came to live in London and this is where she ended up | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
in the summer of 1940, and this is where she had me. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
She was very sociable. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
She, in a strange sort of way, was enjoying the war, | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
that seems bizarre, but you can imagine London was the... | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
party capital of Europe at that time. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
London was a great, fun place to be with soldiers coming in, | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
and my father was in the free French air force, | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
and she met him in a dance hall not far from here | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
in Tottenham Court Road. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:09 | |
-That's him with the free French air force people. -Oh, wow, OK. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:13 | |
That was all his mates in whatever they called a squadron or something. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
I must emphasize that she was an extremely proper person, | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
so although she was out dancing and merry making, | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
she was not the kind of girl who would go and have sex with anybody. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
So how it was that my father... | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
Well, he said that he would marry her as soon as the war was over, and she believed him. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
He came back in 1945 after I'd been born | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
and stayed for a week, | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
and disappeared forever, and she was on her own. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:43 | |
And of course she WAS a very proper person | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
and for her, that was a terrible shock | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
because it was embarrassing to have got caught out like that, | 0:16:47 | 0:16:52 | |
to have believed that story, and then find out that it wasn't true. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
So she just changed magically from being Miss O'Sullivan | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
to Mrs O'Sullivan, | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
and I suppose if you think about a street like this during the war, | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
a lot of people coming and going, she just managed to keep a low profile. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:09 | |
Because of course, what we now know, | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
the anxiety was that if you had a baby and you weren't married, | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
somebody somewhere might come and take it away from you. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
-I absolutely love it. -This is where we used to come every summer. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
It's a five-minute walk from the house, | 0:17:24 | 0:17:29 | |
and my mother would work every morning sewing at her machine, | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
until midday when she would get washed and dressed | 0:17:33 | 0:17:37 | |
and get me ready, put me in the pram, | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
and we came here every day. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
It seemed as if you and your mum | 0:17:44 | 0:17:46 | |
lived like in a little bubble, | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
do you know why that was? | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
It was the fear of having the baby taken away. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
The best way to make sure that didn't happen was to not let anybody know that we were there, | 0:17:54 | 0:17:58 | |
and so she stayed away from anybody in authority. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:02 | |
No doctors, no dentists, | 0:18:02 | 0:18:06 | |
no baby clinic. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:07 | |
It must have been a huge compromise the day that she decided to send me to the nursery, | 0:18:07 | 0:18:11 | |
that must have been quite worrying. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
But she needed to take up her career again. She took me | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
to the nursery and I was there for a year. When I was five, | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
the strangest thing of all, she sent me to a private school. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
Which was very expensive, she sent me to the French Institute. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
I mean, how did she afford to do that? | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
She worked and worked. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:31 | |
-She worked very long hours, ten to 12 hours a day... -Yeah. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
..and she never asked anybody for any money. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
As far as I can recall, | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
nobody ever gave her money except if she had earned it. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:43 | |
-No benefits? -No benefits, nothing. Nothing at all, | 0:18:43 | 0:18:47 | |
and so it was a very quiet, secluded hermit-like existence, | 0:18:47 | 0:18:51 | |
and I was incredibly happy. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
That's what little kids want, isn't it, to be with their mum, | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
-and have her undivided attention. -Yeah. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
What do you think of the possibility that you could have been | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
separated from your mum, that you could have been taken away? | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
She'd have been like a lioness, she would never have let anybody take me. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
She'd have lived in a hole in the ground if she'd had to, | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
she would never, ever, ever have let anybody take me away. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:18 | |
I always knew that I was absolutely wanted | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
and absolutely cherished all the way through, | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
and I'm glad she was my mum. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
There's no way of knowing how many other women had to hide | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
the fact that they were single mums, just to be able to raise their kids. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
The thing I can really relate to about Micheline's mum's story is | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
the feeling you have to make up for being a single parent in some way. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:44 | |
OK, so what is she, what is her job? | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
-Farmer. -She's a farmer, so where would she go? What letter? | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
-F. -Yes, good girl. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
With the job I have, I don't have that support system at home, | 0:19:56 | 0:20:00 | |
I don't have that other person who can pick them | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
up from school, that consistent, you know, partner. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
Let's do this together. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
'You know, once I knew that I could home school, | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
'I knew that that was the best thing for our family.' Exactly. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
Good girl, high five. You got it right, good girl, that's excellent! | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
"Last one into bed has to switch out the light..." | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
'I think as a single parent, you do overcompensate because | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
'people think that your child is missing out, | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
'and you feel that your child is missing out if your child doesn't | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
'have that Mummy and Daddy situation which is in every single story.' | 0:20:32 | 0:20:36 | |
"..After I switched out the light..." | 0:20:36 | 0:20:38 | |
But it does kind of get to you, | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
even if it's the prince and the princess in the palace, she's got the King and the Queen, | 0:20:41 | 0:20:45 | |
and it's just like you do feel like, well, I don't want my child | 0:20:45 | 0:20:49 | |
to feel as if she missed out, I want her to feel as if she had | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
as full and as round an upbringing as any child in any environment. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:58 | |
'And so I definitely overcompensate, I do it all. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
'I don't care how tired I am, how much effort it takes, | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
'I don't care how it impacts on me or even my health, | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
'anything, I'm going to do it just because I want them | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
'to feel like they had it all and they did it all and they didn't miss out.' | 0:21:11 | 0:21:15 | |
Looking at magazines from the 1950s, it's clear that | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
the traditional family continued to be the only option for women. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
Teaching you how to make jelly and fudge... | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
..perfect homemakers. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
Shirt expertly ironed. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
Could do with reading this! | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
You know, every single thing is aimed at... | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
..the nuclear family, everything is aimed at that whole situation | 0:21:48 | 0:21:54 | |
and any pictures, any representation, of women, | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
there seems to always be a man next to them. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
"The Art of Marriage," | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
I mean, the fact that they've got, you know, a section | 0:22:04 | 0:22:08 | |
which is "The Art of Marriage", | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
it kind of indicates to me that... | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
They assume that every woman reading it would be a married woman. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:19 | |
It's not called Married Woman, it's just called Woman, | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
so what if you're not a married woman? | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
I mean, a single mother at this time must have... | 0:22:25 | 0:22:29 | |
really felt outcast. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
Then came the swinging 60s, which I've always been told | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
was a time of cool music, fashion and sexual liberation. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
And in Britain by now, there was a well established benefits system, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:51 | |
so by this time, I was really expecting that everything would be easier for single mums. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:55 | |
'In 1965, Padmoney Staples was 16 years old | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
'when she discovered she was pregnant.' | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
So, Padmoney, this used to be your old house? | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
Yes, this is where I lived as a child. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:15 | |
You had a baby, was it in the 60s? | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
It was in 1965 that I got pregnant and at the time, | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
-I was going to technical college doing a secretarial course. -OK. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:24 | |
I worked part time on a Saturday in the Co-op. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
I didn't know quite what to do, cos I couldn't tell me parents, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
I was really terrified, so I waited | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
and hoped it would go away and of course it didn't go away. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
So in the end, I told my father | 0:23:36 | 0:23:37 | |
and my father took me to the doctors, | 0:23:37 | 0:23:41 | |
and sort of just everything went into overdrive | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
about what would happen, but mostly it was kept a secret, | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
nobody really knew. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
Had to leave college, and I was actually sacked from my job | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
-at the Co-op because I was unmarried and pregnant. -Gosh! Yeah. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
I know people think of it as the swinging 60s, but it wasn't really. | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
It was a thing of shame and I had to hide and it was horrible. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:04 | |
There were very few birth control options available at this time. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
There was no sex education, | 0:24:11 | 0:24:13 | |
abortion was illegal until 1967, | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
and you couldn't go on the pill unless you were married. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
-Well, this is the bus that I would have taken to go to the mother and baby home in Newcastle. -Oh, OK. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:25 | |
And I went there just about one month before the baby was born, | 0:24:25 | 0:24:30 | |
and we caught this bus, my father came with me, | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
I had me little suitcase with me clothes and things in | 0:24:33 | 0:24:37 | |
and a little layette for the baby. I knitted the cardigans and things for her. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
Do you remember what you spoke about on the bus journey? | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
Did you speak about what was happening? | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
No. No, I don't know what we talked about, whether we talked | 0:24:47 | 0:24:51 | |
about the weather or the sites that we were passing or what, | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
but we certainly didn't talk about what was happening. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
About I was going away to have the baby, | 0:24:57 | 0:25:01 | |
that just... | 0:25:01 | 0:25:02 | |
I can't explain that enough, it just was not talked about. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:07 | |
It was as though I'm sitting with this belly out and it was ignored. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
We were just going on a bus | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
to a place where I was going to live for a few weeks. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
And that was that. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
Unmarried pregnant women would be sent | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
to church-run mother and baby homes, like Ellswick Lodge, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
eight weeks before their due date. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
Some did keep their babies, but many, because their parents' shame was too great, | 0:25:34 | 0:25:39 | |
had to give up their babies for adoption. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
How do you feel being back here? | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
Strange, it's very strange. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:50 | |
I mean, did your dad just say bye at the door or...? | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
He was shovelled away. I don't think he stayed any time at all, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
he just left me at the door with my bag. | 0:25:57 | 0:25:59 | |
This was the main sitting room where we used to all go | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
and sit round in chairs knitting, all knitting while we were pregnant. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
Knit, knit, knit, knit, knit, knit... | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
Did you have like a kind of, you know, like a unit of friends, | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
-did you find...? -I made one or two very close friends. Actually, when I came to be here, | 0:26:11 | 0:26:16 | |
it was a relief because it was so nice to be with other women | 0:26:16 | 0:26:20 | |
who were all in the same boat, younger women, | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
older women, it was just such a relief to be able to talk | 0:26:22 | 0:26:26 | |
about things and feel the same, not feel so ashamed as we had at home. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
When you'd had your baby, you came out of the annexe | 0:26:30 | 0:26:34 | |
-and went into the bedroom. -Where did you have your baby? Did you go to hospital? | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
I did go to hospital to have my baby. They took you by taxi | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
when you were in labour, they took us in taxi. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
Did your parents come and help you? No, you're laughing! | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
That's just so bizarre! No, nobody went with me | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
I went totally on me own. The whole thing I did on me own. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
I think my dad came once to see me. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
So your parents did know you'd had the baby? | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
Oh, yes, yes, they knew, yeah. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:01 | |
-But my mother never came to see me, just my dad. -Hmm. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:06 | |
I just remember... | 0:27:13 | 0:27:14 | |
This is where you came, this is where you came with your baby? | 0:27:19 | 0:27:23 | |
-You came here? -Yes. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:25 | |
When you gave birth... I mean, I remember this kind of just | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
euphoric feeling and just instantly falling in love. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
I mean, how did that feel for you? | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
Well, I can't remember any euphoria, | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
but I can remember falling in love. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:43 | |
Cos the moment I clapped eyes on her, I didn't want to give her up. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:47 | |
I felt the longing to have her, to hold her to keep her, | 0:27:47 | 0:27:51 | |
that bonding it was just there. She was MY baby. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
But in my head I KNEW that I had to give her up, so it was like trying | 0:27:55 | 0:28:00 | |
to keep the lid on that, trying to keep it controlled. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
It was a fight between the head and the heart all the time, | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
wanting to keep her and hold her, and knowing she had to go, | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
that I had no choice. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
When it was leading up to that day, I mean, how did you feel? | 0:28:10 | 0:28:15 | |
What was going through your mind at that time? | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
It's hard to sort of think of the dichotomy, but was terrified of the day arriving... | 0:28:18 | 0:28:23 | |
..but I also couldn't stand it, the sort of waiting, waiting, waiting was terrible. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:29 | |
So I both wanted it to happen and didn't want it to happen. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:33 | |
We never quite knew when it was going to happen either. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
They didn't really tell you until about the day before. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:40 | |
What do you mean? Oh, sorry, that's... That's shocking. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
So they just one day would come up to you and say OK? | 0:28:43 | 0:28:47 | |
Your baby's going tomorrow, yeah. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
Quiet word in your ear, | 0:28:49 | 0:28:51 | |
maybe the evening before when we're all sat in the lounge after dinner. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:55 | |
I can remember whoever it was, you know, the other girls would rally round and try and be nice to them, | 0:28:56 | 0:29:02 | |
but it was always a subdued atmosphere when a baby was going the next day. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:06 | |
So...when, you know, when it came to that point... | 0:29:11 | 0:29:19 | |
..where you had to go there... Sorry, I'm getting really upset. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
So, um, when it when it got to that point where you had to go to... | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
I mean, what happened? The next day, what happened? | 0:29:42 | 0:29:45 | |
The next day, we did the morning routine, getting up. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:49 | |
I think I probably was a bit more relaxed about being up in the night. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:53 | |
-Yeah. -Thinking, "It's my last night," so I probably took more time, | 0:29:53 | 0:29:57 | |
but in the morning you got your baby ready, got it dressed in its best clothes. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
Yeah. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:03 | |
And then my father came. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:08 | |
He probably came up on the bus, but we got a taxi, | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
and I took the baby in the taxi to the moral welfare workers office. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:16 | |
So you went, like, to an office? | 0:30:16 | 0:30:18 | |
Yeah, to an office in Newcastle, yeah. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
And then what, you know, what happened there? | 0:30:20 | 0:30:23 | |
Well, I waited in one room, | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
with the baby, and the parents were in the next room. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
And then the moral welfare worker | 0:30:33 | 0:30:37 | |
took the baby into them | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
and I was just so distraught, and crying and things. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
I was supposed to meet them, but because I was so distraught, | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
they let the parents go, so when I was ready, when I'd pulled myself together and said, "Can I see them?", | 0:30:46 | 0:30:51 | |
-it was too late they'd gone. -Yeah. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
I mean, what did you feel at that point? | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
Did you get to kiss her goodbye, did you get to...? What did you do? | 0:30:57 | 0:31:01 | |
I kissed her goodbye, I hugged her and I said goodbye | 0:31:01 | 0:31:05 | |
-and told her it was for the best. -Hmm. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
I mean, so... | 0:31:11 | 0:31:13 | |
..once you'd had... Once you'd experienced that and... | 0:31:14 | 0:31:18 | |
..having to leave... I mean, did you feel as if you were reluctant? | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
Did you feel as if this really wasn't a situation that you wanted to happen? | 0:31:23 | 0:31:27 | |
I knew I didn't want it to happen, and I knew it had to. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:31 | |
And it was kind of just, "Let's just get it over with, let's just get it over with." | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
So going through the motions of doing it, and some kind of fog, really. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
Cos, well, I cried and cried and cried, | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
I cried all the way home on the bus, | 0:31:43 | 0:31:47 | |
I cried myself to sleep for months and months and months afterwards. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:51 | |
And I had to sign the papers in about the October. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:56 | |
I had an interview with somebody, and I don't know who it was, | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
but I can remember she was some kind of social worker person, | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
and I remember having to answer lots of questions and I was upset then, I was crying. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:08 | |
She told me to shut up and stop crying, not to be so silly, | 0:32:08 | 0:32:12 | |
you know, "It was months ago now, you should be over it by now." | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
I know, in six months, | 0:32:16 | 0:32:18 | |
I hadn't got over it. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:20 | |
I haven't got over it in 47 years. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
I certainly hadn't got over it in six months. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
Sorry. I'm sorry. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
I really didn't want to get you upset. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
Thanks so much. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
'The older generation are holding in so much.' | 0:32:43 | 0:32:47 | |
Half a million women had their babies taken from them. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:53 | |
You know, it wasn't... Even though they may have signed the papers, | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
they didn't want that to happen. | 0:32:57 | 0:32:59 | |
And we don't know how many of them are walking the streets, | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
how many of them we're in contact with every day. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
These people may even be in our own families | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
and we don't know because it's all swept under the carpet. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
I'm so glad so glad that I'm doing this programme and so glad that... | 0:33:13 | 0:33:17 | |
..people are getting to hear stories like this, because I don't know | 0:33:19 | 0:33:23 | |
in a way I feel so ignorant, I feel like... | 0:33:23 | 0:33:25 | |
I don't know, I just feel like I've kind of had my eyes closed | 0:33:28 | 0:33:32 | |
and really taken for granted... | 0:33:32 | 0:33:34 | |
I complain sometimes about being a single mum, it's not an issue now. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:38 | |
You know, I haven't got it hard, | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
I haven't got it as hard as I thought I did. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:42 | |
You know, at least I got the opportunity to be a single mum, | 0:33:44 | 0:33:47 | |
I've had the option of being a single mum | 0:33:47 | 0:33:49 | |
and didn't have to have a ring on my finger. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:53 | |
Padmoney went on to have a son, | 0:33:56 | 0:33:58 | |
but she never forgot the daughter she had to give up. 33 years later, | 0:33:58 | 0:34:03 | |
she managed to track her down in New Zealand, and they're still in touch. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:08 | |
Things must have changed quickly because in 1980, | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
14 years after Padmoney had her baby, my mum got pregnant with me. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:30 | |
-My sister wants to know if she can be your back up dancer. -Does she? | 0:34:33 | 0:34:37 | |
Is she good at dancing? | 0:34:37 | 0:34:39 | |
'I wish I could bring her back here and chat about what it was like being a single mum in the '80s, | 0:34:39 | 0:34:43 | |
'but she lives in Jamaica now.' | 0:34:43 | 0:34:45 | |
Not even for a second did she feel that she wasn't going to have me | 0:34:45 | 0:34:49 | |
or that she couldn't have me, that she would have to give me up | 0:34:49 | 0:34:53 | |
or anything like that, I know that it was always, | 0:34:53 | 0:34:55 | |
"OK, I'm pregnant, that means I'm going to have a baby." | 0:34:55 | 0:34:58 | |
That's very indicative of the fact that times had changed by then. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:02 | |
I mean, this is only, you know... My mum had me in 1981, | 0:35:02 | 0:35:07 | |
this is only, what, 13, 14 years after Padmoney's story, | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
where she felt as a 16 year-old getting pregnant, 16, 17 year-old getting pregnant, | 0:35:10 | 0:35:15 | |
that she had no choice, she had no option. It was the unspoken rule. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:19 | |
I actually lived in that house there, number three. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:25 | |
I grew up there with my mum and my two brothers. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:28 | |
Growing up on this street with a single mother was pretty normal, | 0:35:28 | 0:35:32 | |
90% of the houses on this street were single-parent families, single mothers. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
My mum struggled financially from time to time. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:40 | |
Everybody was borrowing, "Have you got some sugar, some eggs?" | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
It was very much that kind of community. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:45 | |
Everybody helped each other out, and I guess it's because everyone understood each other's situations. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:51 | |
My mum saw benefits as assistance, | 0:35:51 | 0:35:55 | |
as help when you needed it, but as soon as she was capable | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
of getting back to work, which she felt was when we got to school, | 0:35:58 | 0:36:02 | |
that's when she volunteered at the local play centre and worked her way up to the manager. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:07 | |
I look to my childhood and I say, genuinely, | 0:36:07 | 0:36:11 | |
my mum did the best she could, and that for me | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
is all you could want as a child, to know that your mum did | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
everything to the best of her ability for you. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:21 | |
So what had changed between the '60s and the '80s? | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
The answer is everything. For the first time ever, | 0:36:38 | 0:36:42 | |
women had choices and freedom. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
They could buy a house, go on the pill, abortion was legal, | 0:36:44 | 0:36:49 | |
and they could now get a divorce from their husbands. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:53 | |
And everybody was talking about it. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:55 | |
She's only a child... and her without a father! | 0:36:55 | 0:36:59 | |
Well, I'm one of the new breed of free-thinking women - sex, yes, babies, yes, marriage, no. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:04 | |
Mother of God! What's the world coming to? | 0:37:04 | 0:37:08 | |
I find it so amazing the difference in, you know, | 0:37:08 | 0:37:12 | |
things that are on TV now, like the '70s seemed to be like the death | 0:37:12 | 0:37:17 | |
of shame almost, you know, the fact that, I don't know, | 0:37:17 | 0:37:21 | |
people having sex outside marriage now is kind of OK to talk about. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:25 | |
And even on TV, I mean, it's not... | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
The thing is it's not that long, but I guess... | 0:37:28 | 0:37:32 | |
I don't know, I guess maybe these new changes that came in really did make | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
a huge difference and, you know, had that kind of an impact on women | 0:37:36 | 0:37:41 | |
and popular culture as well. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:43 | |
I wonder what impact this new freedom for women had | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
on the new generation of us children who grew up with single mums. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:55 | |
These are just little bits that I've... | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
I made this, I'm such a Blue Peter kid. I made this for my mum for Mother's Day. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:05 | |
'Like me, the Emmerdale actress and TV star Roxanne Pallet | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
'was brought up by a single mum in the 1980s.' | 0:38:10 | 0:38:14 | |
I was born in 82, | 0:38:14 | 0:38:16 | |
so it was primary school for me, and I couldn't... | 0:38:16 | 0:38:21 | |
I mean, I've brought a picture this will make you laugh. It's Mummy, Grandma and Roxanne, | 0:38:21 | 0:38:26 | |
we're all smiling, but to me that was like the norm. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:30 | |
It was me mum an grandma, not a big deal, whereas I'm sure there was a few kids | 0:38:30 | 0:38:34 | |
who'd have to go and see the school psychologist with what they drew. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:38 | |
And they had a mum and a dad. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:40 | |
But this probably sums up my childhood best, | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
because it's the Betty Boo pose - do do be do - | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
and it's Mum, very windswept cos we were in Greece, Auntie Jackie, | 0:38:46 | 0:38:52 | |
and my grandma and me, and so it's three generations, and we were just | 0:38:52 | 0:38:56 | |
we were all so in sync with each other. I was always part of a gang. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
Yeah, yeah. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
It was a happy time and it was you and Grandma doing a high five. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
She'd come in from one shift, you'd go out for another, | 0:39:04 | 0:39:08 | |
and we'd go out at the weekend and do stuff. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:12 | |
We weren't ruled by that stigma, because even though you were the only single mum | 0:39:12 | 0:39:16 | |
out of 30 kids in my class, I was one of the happy kids | 0:39:16 | 0:39:20 | |
and the brightest kids, | 0:39:20 | 0:39:21 | |
and I think that's what matters really, doesn't it? | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
Do you feel you've been affected in any way | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
by not having a dad around? | 0:39:27 | 0:39:29 | |
I've never missed out because it's all I've ever known, is | 0:39:29 | 0:39:33 | |
to have my mum and my grandma, and for me, that is my most... It doesn't | 0:39:33 | 0:39:38 | |
matter what I do in my career, my most prized possession | 0:39:38 | 0:39:42 | |
is you and Grandma bringing me up. I know I wouldn't be | 0:39:42 | 0:39:46 | |
as strong and as creative and as strong minded and independent, | 0:39:46 | 0:39:51 | |
and I value that. There's been moments in my life that | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
without this strength and this belief and tenacity | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
that I've got from you and Grandma, and watching a mum, a woman, do it | 0:39:57 | 0:40:01 | |
on her own, I don't think I would've survived certain moments. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
-Absolutely. -I think I'd have crumbled. -The President of the United States | 0:40:04 | 0:40:08 | |
was brought up by a single mum, and I just think that we have | 0:40:08 | 0:40:12 | |
something in us, we do have something in us as children. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:16 | |
You know, to see our mums struggle like that makes us think, | 0:40:16 | 0:40:20 | |
"Well, if my mum can do it, I can do absolutely anything," | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
and my mum gave me that. It's something that I now pass on to my daughters. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:27 | |
My mum definitely gave me the feeling that nothing is impossible. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
If I'm going to have a man in my life, he has to be strong, | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
not just physically, but mentally, emotionally, | 0:40:33 | 0:40:36 | |
and I can't... There's no room for error | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
if I'm going to invite a man into my life. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
And if I have a kid, I'm hoping that there will be | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
the dynamics of a mum and a dad, but I'm not scared if there isn't. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
-Yeah. -I'm not scared to do the single mum thing at all. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
What do you think, Monica? | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
Oh, the tight lips have come out - she disagrees! | 0:40:54 | 0:40:56 | |
How could you cope with sleepless nights? You forget about the sleepless nights... | 0:40:58 | 0:41:04 | |
..and it is hard. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
Don't be fooled into women making it look easy, because it isn't. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:11 | |
And I don't think that's changed from the '80s till now, you know. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
Roxanne and Monica were part of a growing number | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
of single-parent families. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
By the 1990s, there were 1.3 million of them, | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
and a special lone parent's benefit had been introduced | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
to help them out. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:31 | |
But the political climate was changing. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:33 | |
It is time to get back to basics. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
Britain's fast growing population of single parents have found themselves in the eye of a storm. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:46 | |
There is a small minority who need encouraging to form | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
stable relationships and marriages before having children. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
We do believe in the family unit as being the basis of a stable society. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:57 | |
We want to discourage the young mum who turns up with child in arms | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
and stands on the town hall steps expecting the council | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
to immediately be able to help her. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:05 | |
'Annie Oliver has chosen to live as a single mother, and when three years...' | 0:42:05 | 0:42:09 | |
Single mum Annie Oliver was so upset by what was being | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
said at the time, that she went on television to defend herself. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:16 | |
Single parents are being scapegoated it seems. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:20 | |
It's not going to promote childcare to single-parent families | 0:42:20 | 0:42:24 | |
when he thinks single-parent families are unnatural. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
'And she's still doing it today.' | 0:42:27 | 0:42:29 | |
-Hello. Hi, I'm Jamelia. -I'm Annie. -Hello, nice to meet you. -And you. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:33 | |
What's all this, then? | 0:42:36 | 0:42:37 | |
This is some of the newspaper articles and cuttings from the '90s. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:43 | |
Well, I became a single parent in 1990, I had my son Alex... | 0:42:43 | 0:42:47 | |
-Oh, OK. -..in 1990. I was on my own with this baby, | 0:42:47 | 0:42:51 | |
I'd left a violent relationship so I thought | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
I would do the right thing which is bring him up WITHOUT violence. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:57 | |
I had no money, I was living in this house that was cold. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:02 | |
I was really miserable, and then when I started to read this | 0:43:02 | 0:43:06 | |
stuff in the newspapers, it actually made me really, really depressed. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:10 | |
Made me really upset, I actually took it very, very personally. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:14 | |
"Single parents fail children," says a judge. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:18 | |
"Life on the estate of missing fathers." | 0:43:18 | 0:43:22 | |
Oh, this is John Redwood, he suggested that we put our children up for adoption. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:26 | |
What?! | 0:43:26 | 0:43:27 | |
This one, headed up," The single mothers, just who is to blame?" | 0:43:27 | 0:43:32 | |
says the statistics tell a damning story | 0:43:32 | 0:43:34 | |
of social and moral irresponsibility. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:37 | |
So this is how we were being spoken about. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:40 | |
This is so unfair. What a horrible picture. Oh, my gosh. | 0:43:40 | 0:43:44 | |
This is how the people in power saw single parents at the time. | 0:43:44 | 0:43:48 | |
It's just so unfair, it's unfair to the mothers, | 0:43:48 | 0:43:51 | |
it's unfair to the children. As you said, children can read, my daughter could read that, | 0:43:51 | 0:43:55 | |
and I'd hate to be faced with something like this every day. | 0:43:55 | 0:43:58 | |
There was so much negative stuff that there was a cartoon in one of the newspapers, | 0:43:58 | 0:44:02 | |
and England had been knocked out of the World Cup, | 0:44:02 | 0:44:05 | |
and it was a cartoon of despondent footballers sat like that, | 0:44:05 | 0:44:08 | |
and underneath it said, "I blame single parents." | 0:44:08 | 0:44:12 | |
That's how much was in the media about how single parents were wrong. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:16 | |
This is the backlash, this is kind of, "Well, this has got too much, | 0:44:16 | 0:44:21 | |
"these women are leaving their husbands, and wanting social housing, | 0:44:21 | 0:44:26 | |
"and wanting access to benefits, and it's all too much." | 0:44:26 | 0:44:29 | |
And I think what happened was we became a scapegoat. | 0:44:29 | 0:44:32 | |
We are not in the business of subsidising scroungers... | 0:44:32 | 0:44:37 | |
..so Mr Chairman, just like in the Mikado, | 0:44:38 | 0:44:42 | |
I've got a little list... | 0:44:42 | 0:44:44 | |
of benefit offenders, who I'll soon be rooting out. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:48 | |
And who never would be missed. They never would be missed. | 0:44:48 | 0:44:52 | |
There's young ladies who get pregnant just to jump the housing queue, | 0:44:52 | 0:44:56 | |
and dads who won't support the kids | 0:44:56 | 0:44:59 | |
of the ladies they have...kissed. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:02 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:45:02 | 0:45:04 | |
'Who was that?' | 0:45:09 | 0:45:11 | |
That was Peter Lilley who was, um... | 0:45:11 | 0:45:14 | |
the minister for social security. | 0:45:14 | 0:45:16 | |
He upset a lot of people with that speech. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:19 | |
On his list is the list of fraudsters, | 0:45:19 | 0:45:22 | |
and that basically included single mothers? | 0:45:22 | 0:45:25 | |
-Looking after their children. -Do you think that there are any women who get pregnant | 0:45:25 | 0:45:29 | |
-to get a council house? -It would be a very small minority. | 0:45:29 | 0:45:32 | |
There's no way you would get pregnant | 0:45:32 | 0:45:36 | |
to have a council maisonette. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:38 | |
'I want to understand what was going on in the '90s.' | 0:45:41 | 0:45:45 | |
-Hi, Jamelia. -Lovely to see you, come on in. | 0:45:46 | 0:45:48 | |
'So I'm off to meet journalist Julia Hartley Brewer | 0:45:48 | 0:45:50 | |
'who has written about some of the issues in the newspapers.' | 0:45:50 | 0:45:54 | |
I'd love to know where it kind of came from. | 0:45:54 | 0:45:58 | |
Was it the politicians, was it the media, | 0:45:58 | 0:46:00 | |
did the media just make it up or...? | 0:46:00 | 0:46:02 | |
What the government and I think the media were reacting to, and the public at large, | 0:46:02 | 0:46:06 | |
was the evidence before their eyes, the anecdotal and statistical evidence that was backing it up. | 0:46:06 | 0:46:11 | |
Unfortunately, it is the case, whether you like it or not | 0:46:11 | 0:46:14 | |
that a child who comes from a single-parent family regardless of their income, | 0:46:14 | 0:46:18 | |
regardless of whether they're middle class and educated as opposed to a two-parent family is more likely, | 0:46:18 | 0:46:23 | |
by a LONG way, to turn to crime, more likely to use drugs, have an alcohol problem, | 0:46:23 | 0:46:27 | |
less likely to be in full-time employment, more likely to have a teen pregnancy | 0:46:27 | 0:46:32 | |
and to do badly in school. The statistics on average are not good. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:36 | |
Well, did the government want to get it into people's heads that | 0:46:36 | 0:46:40 | |
-being a single mum is bad for your children? -It's, you know... | 0:46:40 | 0:46:44 | |
I think the idea was not to say it's bad, but to say it's not desirable. | 0:46:44 | 0:46:47 | |
We did have a benefits system, which is now changing, where | 0:46:47 | 0:46:50 | |
there were perverse incentives where a woman who was single | 0:46:50 | 0:46:53 | |
would be better off than if she stayed with the guy or if she moved | 0:46:53 | 0:46:57 | |
in with a new guy. We were discouraging, by only a couple | 0:46:57 | 0:47:00 | |
of grand a year, which for a lot of families is a huge percentage | 0:47:00 | 0:47:03 | |
of their income, and stopping people from setting up new family units. | 0:47:03 | 0:47:07 | |
It's all about really just trying to, well, encourage | 0:47:07 | 0:47:11 | |
the family unit, but not to penalise single mums at the same time. | 0:47:11 | 0:47:15 | |
That's a very difficult balance. It's not a balance the media, I admit, has got very well. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:19 | |
We do like a bogey man, someone to blame | 0:47:19 | 0:47:21 | |
and single mums for a long time have been an easy target. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:24 | |
Through someone's lifestyle choice, if you want to call it that, there's a massive effect | 0:47:24 | 0:47:29 | |
on the economy, on the taxes, on other people. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:31 | |
Other people's lifestyles are affected by your lifestyle choice. | 0:47:31 | 0:47:35 | |
I do believe that being a single mother is never | 0:47:35 | 0:47:38 | |
a choice, it's never something that... It's very rare that someone | 0:47:38 | 0:47:42 | |
has set out and said, "I'm going do this on my own." | 0:47:42 | 0:47:45 | |
There are some women for whom there is a choice | 0:47:45 | 0:47:48 | |
and for whom that is a financially sensible choice in terms | 0:47:48 | 0:47:52 | |
of getting on the housing. Yeah, in terms of getting council housing, | 0:47:52 | 0:47:55 | |
in terms of making a living, because they're never going to work or get a home of their own otherwise. | 0:47:55 | 0:48:01 | |
I find that that picture of a single mother is the one that is painted | 0:48:01 | 0:48:04 | |
to represent all single mothers, and I mean, that surely is unfair, | 0:48:04 | 0:48:10 | |
particularly because most of us | 0:48:10 | 0:48:12 | |
don't want to be in that bracket and are not in that bracket, | 0:48:12 | 0:48:16 | |
but media-wise, they were the ones that were chosen | 0:48:16 | 0:48:20 | |
to represent all single mothers, and is that intentional? | 0:48:20 | 0:48:23 | |
I don't think it's been intentional, but it has been a caricaturing of single mums. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:27 | |
You think pram face, you know the image I'm talking about. You know? | 0:48:27 | 0:48:31 | |
Look, no-one wants to be in that situation, | 0:48:31 | 0:48:33 | |
no-one rational will choose that situation. I don't know any single mums who would not rather be | 0:48:33 | 0:48:38 | |
either in a happy marriage with a guy with whom they had their child or with somebody else, | 0:48:38 | 0:48:43 | |
so why are we pretending that this is a positive lifestyle choice? It's not. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:47 | |
It's not a bad one, but it's not the best one, so why don't we encourage people for the best one? | 0:48:47 | 0:48:52 | |
I hear that, but at the same time, I think that this is... | 0:48:52 | 0:48:55 | |
Would you think it was fair to say that this is part | 0:48:55 | 0:48:58 | |
of the reason why single mothers of today feel this stigma and feel... | 0:48:58 | 0:49:03 | |
Even me as a single mother myself, because of things like this | 0:49:03 | 0:49:07 | |
I can't help but question, | 0:49:07 | 0:49:08 | |
"Am I doing the right thing by my children?" | 0:49:08 | 0:49:11 | |
In an ideal world, you would probably... | 0:49:11 | 0:49:14 | |
As great a mum as you are and for all the good reasons you had for getting out | 0:49:14 | 0:49:17 | |
of your relationship, you'd rather be in a happy, loving one | 0:49:17 | 0:49:20 | |
with somebody to help you look after your kids, and your kids would prefer that. | 0:49:20 | 0:49:24 | |
So lets stop pretending that that isn't what we're all after. | 0:49:24 | 0:49:28 | |
'I know that Julia is only saying what a lot of people think, | 0:49:28 | 0:49:32 | |
'and she's right, I WOULD rather be bringing up my kids | 0:49:32 | 0:49:35 | |
'with a partner, but for me that's just not a reality' | 0:49:35 | 0:49:39 | |
I refuse to believe that I've made the wrong choice with | 0:49:39 | 0:49:42 | |
where my children are concerned and I don't know a single mum who | 0:49:42 | 0:49:46 | |
was in a positive relationship and decided to leave. It wasn't | 0:49:46 | 0:49:50 | |
that situation, most of us didn't want to be single mums, most of us | 0:49:50 | 0:49:53 | |
don't want to be without the partner, but circumstances | 0:49:53 | 0:49:57 | |
have led us to this place. Now don't tell us that we're all doomed! | 0:49:57 | 0:50:02 | |
I refuse to believe that, I really do, | 0:50:02 | 0:50:04 | |
and it's really upsetting. For someone to basically tell me | 0:50:04 | 0:50:07 | |
it's pointless, if you ain't got man in the house it's pointless, | 0:50:07 | 0:50:12 | |
it's extremely offensive, it really is, and more upsetting | 0:50:12 | 0:50:16 | |
than offensive because, you know, I don't want to think | 0:50:16 | 0:50:21 | |
that my kids will be nothing, just because of choices | 0:50:21 | 0:50:25 | |
that I have made. Sorry. | 0:50:25 | 0:50:28 | |
It's really, really, really hard to even think of. | 0:50:29 | 0:50:33 | |
I want to feel as if my kids have got the same chance as anybody else's. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:38 | |
It's becoming clear why I don't feel proud to be a single mum. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:47 | |
In the Daily Mail, it says, "The collapse of family life, | 0:50:49 | 0:50:52 | |
"births outside marriage hit the highest level for two centuries. | 0:50:52 | 0:50:57 | |
"Some 46% of children are born to unmarried mothers, | 0:50:57 | 0:51:00 | |
"according to research by the Centre for Social Justice. | 0:51:00 | 0:51:05 | |
"The think tank said a child growing up in a one-parent family, | 0:51:05 | 0:51:08 | |
"is 75% more likely to fail at school, 70% more likely | 0:51:08 | 0:51:14 | |
"to become a drug addict, and 50% more likely to have an alcohol problem." | 0:51:14 | 0:51:19 | |
It's because of things like this why single mothers | 0:51:20 | 0:51:23 | |
can feel sometimes a bit bogged down, | 0:51:23 | 0:51:27 | |
with society's views. | 0:51:27 | 0:51:29 | |
With other people, having pre-conceptions and coming up with | 0:51:29 | 0:51:33 | |
their own opinions and prejudices, because they're fed crap like this. | 0:51:33 | 0:51:38 | |
You know, they're... | 0:51:38 | 0:51:39 | |
I think it definitely affects how we're looked at | 0:51:39 | 0:51:43 | |
and I feel that as a single mother myself, | 0:51:43 | 0:51:46 | |
this is part of the reason why I fight so hard, why I try so hard, | 0:51:46 | 0:51:51 | |
and why it's so important for me... | 0:51:51 | 0:51:54 | |
..to show people I can do it, and... | 0:51:55 | 0:51:59 | |
to do more than the average, you know, to do more than possibly a married mother would do, | 0:51:59 | 0:52:05 | |
because I feel I've got much more to prove. | 0:52:05 | 0:52:07 | |
If I'm honest, this is my deepest, darkest fear - | 0:52:07 | 0:52:11 | |
that somehow no matter what I do, my kids will be damaged in some way. | 0:52:11 | 0:52:17 | |
And I'm not imagining it | 0:52:17 | 0:52:18 | |
because here are the statistics in black and white in the paper. | 0:52:18 | 0:52:22 | |
So what IS the truth? | 0:52:22 | 0:52:24 | |
I'm off to Cambridge University to meet the most qualified expert I can find. | 0:52:24 | 0:52:29 | |
He's Professor Lamb, head of the Department of Social and Developmental Psychology. | 0:52:30 | 0:52:36 | |
He's spent 30 years studying what happens to children brought up | 0:52:36 | 0:52:40 | |
in single-parent families. | 0:52:40 | 0:52:42 | |
Perhaps he can tell me what these statistics mean and whether we are really to blame. | 0:52:42 | 0:52:46 | |
So this is an article that was in The Daily Mail, | 0:52:46 | 0:52:49 | |
and basically says that a child growing up in a one-parent family is 75% more likely | 0:52:49 | 0:52:54 | |
to fail at school, 70% more likely to become a drug addict, | 0:52:54 | 0:52:59 | |
and 50% more likely to have an alcohol problem. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:02 | |
When I read this, I literally picked up the newspaper | 0:53:02 | 0:53:06 | |
and I saw it and I was literally horrified, | 0:53:06 | 0:53:08 | |
as a single parent, I was just thinking, | 0:53:08 | 0:53:10 | |
"Oh, my gosh, my children are finished." | 0:53:10 | 0:53:13 | |
Right, and I think of course that that's part of the message | 0:53:13 | 0:53:18 | |
that people are meant to get, when they read these stories. | 0:53:18 | 0:53:22 | |
But it does involve... | 0:53:22 | 0:53:25 | |
presenting the statistics in the way | 0:53:25 | 0:53:28 | |
that makes them seem most scary. | 0:53:28 | 0:53:32 | |
In most studies, you find that somewhere around 15% | 0:53:32 | 0:53:36 | |
of the children in two-parent families, | 0:53:36 | 0:53:40 | |
show some sign of mal adjustment. | 0:53:40 | 0:53:42 | |
If you look at a group of children in single-parent families, | 0:53:42 | 0:53:47 | |
you find 25 to 30%. What this means is that | 0:53:47 | 0:53:51 | |
the majority of children in both these groups are absolutely fine. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:57 | |
So here you have 85%, | 0:53:57 | 0:54:00 | |
in the other group you have 75%, | 0:54:00 | 0:54:02 | |
now they don't look quite so different when you look at these statistics. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:07 | |
At the positive side of it, yeah. | 0:54:07 | 0:54:10 | |
What this means is that the problem isn't the single parent | 0:54:10 | 0:54:13 | |
because the majority of the children in the single-parent families | 0:54:13 | 0:54:17 | |
are doing just fine. | 0:54:17 | 0:54:19 | |
I like to think in terms of three types of factors | 0:54:19 | 0:54:22 | |
that help explain it. | 0:54:22 | 0:54:24 | |
So the first of those have to do with the children's relationships | 0:54:24 | 0:54:28 | |
-with their parents. -OK. | 0:54:28 | 0:54:30 | |
Second factor is the amount of conflict | 0:54:30 | 0:54:34 | |
that the parents are engaged in. | 0:54:34 | 0:54:36 | |
-We have lots of evidence that conflict isn't good for children. -Of course. | 0:54:36 | 0:54:41 | |
And then the third factor has to do with the social and economic circumstances. | 0:54:41 | 0:54:47 | |
For as long as I've been around, | 0:54:47 | 0:54:50 | |
the single most economically disadvantaged groups | 0:54:50 | 0:54:54 | |
have been single mothers. | 0:54:54 | 0:54:56 | |
So it's not the fact that you are a single mother, it's the fact | 0:54:56 | 0:54:59 | |
that you're a single mother possibly facing one of these struggles. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:04 | |
Which MAY make it more difficult for your children, but in most cases, | 0:55:04 | 0:55:09 | |
most single mothers are raising their children as well as most, | 0:55:09 | 0:55:16 | |
two-parent, or married mothers, or cohabiting mothers. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:21 | |
So it is important to remember that actually | 0:55:21 | 0:55:25 | |
the majority of kids, the majority of families do fine. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:29 | |
Yeah. It's good to know, that is! | 0:55:30 | 0:55:33 | |
'My visit to the professor feels like a weight off my shoulders. | 0:55:39 | 0:55:44 | |
'When I started this film, I felt ashamed to be a single mum. | 0:55:44 | 0:55:48 | |
'It's like the club that no-one wants to join. | 0:55:48 | 0:55:51 | |
'What I've learned is that although circumstances might have | 0:55:51 | 0:55:55 | |
'changed dramatically over the years, we don't have to go to workhouses, | 0:55:55 | 0:56:00 | |
'we don't have to give up our babies for adoption, or hide our kids away. | 0:56:00 | 0:56:04 | |
'There is a stigma that has never completely gone away.' | 0:56:04 | 0:56:09 | |
I feel really privileged to have met women who are willing to kind of | 0:56:09 | 0:56:12 | |
put aside that shame and speak to me and share their stories with me. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:16 | |
It really helped me, it helped me understand, | 0:56:16 | 0:56:19 | |
and also to get rid of some of my own shame. | 0:56:19 | 0:56:23 | |
I feel that... | 0:56:24 | 0:56:25 | |
..yeah, it's not the ideal situation, | 0:56:27 | 0:56:30 | |
it's not the best situation in the world, | 0:56:30 | 0:56:32 | |
but what single mothers deserve more than anything is respect. | 0:56:32 | 0:56:36 | |
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