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This programme contains scenes some viewers may find upsetting | 0:00:02 | 0:00:07 | |
New York City, the beating heart of the United States of America, | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
once home to the Twin Towers, | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
a powerful symbol of a modern era and American financial strength. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:18 | |
Ten years ago, they became the target | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
of the most brutal terrorist attack the world has ever seen. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
GARBLED VOICE ON RADIO: World Trade Center tower number one is on fire... | 0:00:26 | 0:00:31 | |
Almost 3,000 people lost their lives | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
as they were beginning their day's work. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
They were mothers, fathers, sons and daughters. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
Some of them, as many as 46, were also twins. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:53 | |
I realised, OK, I need to find out if there were other twins who were killed on 9/11. | 0:00:55 | 0:01:00 | |
I just said I need to find out who the other ones are | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
and I need to talk to them. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
When you're in a relationship, | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
whether it's your girlfriend or your boyfriend or your husband or wife, | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
you call that your other half. I don't call that my other half. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:17 | |
I call my brother my other half cos he made me whole. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:22 | |
In the unfolding tales of those whose lives were changed for ever, | 0:01:25 | 0:01:29 | |
the story of the 9/11 twins has remained untold. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:35 | |
It was shocking to see how many other twins were affected. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
I don't want to take it away from anybody who had a sibling or kids, | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
but you know, everybody else is talked about. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
You never hear, "That's a twin." You never hear, "They were a twin." | 0:01:44 | 0:01:48 | |
And I think this is a good thing. I think people need to know that, | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
you know, we're special people too. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:53 | |
Reluctant members of a club born out of this tragedy, | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
these New Yorkers each lost their other half on September 11th, 2001. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:05 | |
SIRENS WAIL | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
Today, New York City appears as vibrant and full of life as ever. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:32 | |
But the impact of that terrible day in September ten years ago | 0:02:34 | 0:02:38 | |
is still felt by almost all who live here. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
Zachary Fletcher and his twin brother Andre grew up in Brooklyn | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
and became New York City firefighters. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
They were both called to the World Trade Center on September 11th. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
Andre did not return. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
I was proud. I was proud to be a twin, | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
because it meant that something... | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
I had something different than what the other kids had. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
We used to always play that we were kind of like superheroes, | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
because being a twin, you know, we had special powers and things like that, you know. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:17 | |
Twins live their lives from the beginning | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
in the context of a 'we', rather than the more usual 'I'. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
Cos we were always 'the twins', you know, Mike and Lisa the twins. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
We went as one, you know, wherever we were, | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
even if we were by ourselves. "That's Lisa, that's Michael, they're twins." | 0:03:38 | 0:03:42 | |
It's hard to describe, it really is. It's... | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
He knew what I was thinking, I knew what he was thinking, | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
and we did things almost at the same time together. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
It was just a natural progression and it just was amazing. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
It really was amazing. | 0:03:57 | 0:03:58 | |
We were identical twins. I was older by three minutes. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
My hair was always parted to the side. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
Steve was always like a straight bang cut. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
So some people were very good at telling us apart. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
They could tell that there were differences. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
When I was eight years old, I broke my jaw. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
We were playing on a bicycle. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:25 | |
I bit through my lip and it's a permanent scar. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
I had 14 stitches and it was swollen. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
I remember the nurse showed me the mirror and I was crying all night. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
I thought I broke my twin-ship because I didn't think Stephen and I | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
were going to look alike any more. I thought I'd done something irreparable and permanent. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:42 | |
I didn't like all the confusion at elementary school when we took pictures. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
Only one of us would get a set of pictures | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
because the photographer would assume he made two copies and send one back. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:54 | |
So every year it was like who would get their picture this year? | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
If Brenda did something, it was Brenda-Linda. If I did, it was Brenda-Linda. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
And it was just like one. It was like a package deal. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
"So who did it?" "Brenda-Linda." | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
I remember my mother often saying, | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
"I don't know who did it, but you're both getting punished now." | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
It didn't seem fair that other kids didn't have a twin. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
There's something, I think, that happens | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
when you spend nine months in a womb with someone, | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
as silly as that may seem, | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
that sets you apart from anybody else for the rest of your life. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:31 | |
As many of the twins were growing up, | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
an exciting new project was taking root in New York City. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:47 | |
NEWSREADER: The Port of New York Authority | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
is constructing the World Trade Centre in Lower Manhattan. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
The centre includes twin 110-storey tower buildings, | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
the tallest in the world. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
With the addition of each new storey, | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
the twin towers would come to dominate the Manhattan skyline. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:06 | |
Lisa and Michael DeRienzo grew up on Staten Island | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
within sight of the developing World Trade Center. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
Michael would become a broker on the 104th floor of the North Tower. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:21 | |
I would say I was a little bit more rambunctious, talkative and giggly. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:28 | |
He was much more reserved and quiet. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
When he spoke, everyone listened, because then he had something to say. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
I always felt he was my friend for life. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
You know, he was the go-to guy when I ever needed anything. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
Anything good happened, he was the first call. Anything bad happened, he was the first call. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:45 | |
Yeah, like, he was that friend that was always there. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
Andre and I, we took piano lessons together, | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
we played football together, we played baseball together. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
There's really nothing that we didn't do together. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
Both of us even joined New York City Fire Department. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:09 | |
-You're bald-headed. -I know. -Shave it off? -I want it like that. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
I'm not bald-headed. I got hair. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
'We lived only a few blocks away from the fire house,' | 0:07:14 | 0:07:18 | |
and we'd walk by the fire house and... | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
..the door would be up and the guys were so friendly. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
You'd look at these big guys. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:26 | |
You're like, "Wow. The things these guys must go through. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
"Those guys are superheroes, man." So we want to be superheroes too. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
-Bye-bye. -See you later. See you later! | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
I don't think any twins didn't fight. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
I think what made it worse was the fact that we were so competitive. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
Who was stronger? | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
We always wanted to determine who was the better twin. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:53 | |
Yeah, we always fought. Sometimes it turned to physical. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
45 years of fishing and now I don't fish at all. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:04 | |
I just chase the little white ball. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
Gary Guja's identical twin brother Geoffrey was also a firefighter. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
-Nice and straight. -Where is it? | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
It curved a little bit! | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
Geoffrey and Gary grew up on Long Island where Gary still lives today. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:28 | |
Yeah, this is us. Look at this, this is a great picture. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
This I can remember. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
Look at this, we're climbing up. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
There is definitely no-one there. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
There we go, down the slide together. That was great. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
Oh, here are the sailor suits, the famous sailor suits. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
We had, like, our fifth party. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
They gave us these little sail boats. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
In the middle of the party, Mom had a heart attack | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
because she couldn't find us. Both of us had disappeared. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
We took our sail boats, just the two of us, | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
and were sailing them down the canal. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
They were ready to call the police and everybody. We're, like, disappeared. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
Geoff was always the organiser. We always used to joke around. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:11 | |
There was the right way, the wrong way and Geoff's way, | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
because that was the way we always did it. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
I love my sisters and other brothers, | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
but there's just no comparison between the relationship between two twins. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
It's really a...a unity. It's a oneness. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
Eventually we bought a house together. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
Inseparable up until mid-30s, maybe. And then we split up. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:36 | |
I took half the house, with my wife Debbie. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
Geoff took the other half. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
If we sell this ring, | 0:09:41 | 0:09:42 | |
maybe we can take this limo straight down to Mexico and... | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
That's it. I ain't doing it! Take a left. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
Following Geoff's lead, we could do whatever we wanted to. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:53 | |
I often said he was like a locomotive out of control at times. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:57 | |
But we'd jump on the train and we'd all go for a ride. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
And it was a great ride. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:02 | |
Right, that's another way of telling you you're ugly. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
Went into the Fire Department and wanted the most action, | 0:10:05 | 0:10:10 | |
pulled all the strings he could, | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
so he ended up in the worst firehouse in the worst area of the Bronx. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:16 | |
On September 11th, | 0:10:19 | 0:10:20 | |
Geoff shouldn't have responded to the emergency call out. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
He'd been injured in a fire and restricted to office duty. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
Thirteen Hoffmans. Eight boys, five girls. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
We were the youngest two boys | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
and we understood that we had all these other brothers and sisters, | 0:10:37 | 0:10:41 | |
but Stephen I, there was certainly a uniqueness about the relationship, | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
because of the twinship. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
There was no language, it was just unspoken, a look, a nod... | 0:10:46 | 0:10:51 | |
just an expression and then when we... | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
I think we had a more hard time communicating when we spoke | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
than when we didn't speak, because when we spoke there were both of us | 0:10:57 | 0:11:01 | |
trying to talk at the same time. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
Greg Hoffman and his twin brother Stephen grew up in Queens in a large Catholic family. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:09 | |
So he and I were always very active, very hyperactive. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:14 | |
And believe it or not, it's hard for you to understand, but Stephen... | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
I was the least hyper of the two of us, Stephen was much more... | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
talkative and just more out there. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
If you were a cartoon character, who would you be? | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
Oh, cartoon character. I would undoubtedly be Tigger. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
Tigger's my favourite character cos he's got a lot of spunk. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
He bounces around, he's always happy. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
Tigger, Tigger, Tigger Tigger's a wonderful thing. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
'We're exactly the same, also at the same time totally opposite.' | 0:11:59 | 0:12:04 | |
John was the academic and I was out hustling. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:08 | |
I wanted to make money. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
New York City is a great place to make a living. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
John is this hero policeman, he's all over the place | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
and I've always been in the carpet business | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
or playing my guitar in a band. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
Right there, we're exact opposites. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
He'd been an emergency service police officer for 14 years. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:28 | |
The saying goes, when a cop needs a cop, they call emergency service. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:33 | |
When the Twin Towers were completed in 1973, | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
they were briefly the tallest buildings in the world | 0:12:41 | 0:12:46 | |
and could be seen from 25 miles away. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
They seemed as strong as America herself. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
So it wasn't just a regular building for us. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
We had a lot of fun there, Geoff and I. It was interesting | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
because we had spent a fair amount of time at the Towers. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
Growing up and being a teenager around that time, | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
it was something that you did. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:16 | |
You made school trips to the Twin Towers. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
We were proud of our Twin Towers. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
Top of the heap. Top of the world. New York. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:26 | |
COMMENTATOR: And up here at 1,500 feet or in that area, | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
there is somebody out there on a tightrope walk | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
between the two towers of the World Trade Center, | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
right at the tippy-top. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
The height of the Twin Towers proved irresistible | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
to French high-wire artist, Phillipe Petit | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
and he was quick to celebrate them in his own unique way. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:49 | |
A couple of years later, Brooklyn toymaker, George Willig, | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
the human fly, felt compelled to scale the South Tower. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
'28-year old George Willig was at the 65th floor. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:05 | |
'They sent two men in a window washer's bucket down after him.' | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
I remember standing outside looking up | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
and the Twin Towers were standing there. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
Stephen and I remember looking up, we go, "They're our buildings, man. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
"The twins and the towers, those are our towers". | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
And I think any twin identifies with that. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:40 | |
After high school, I remember asking, "Are we going to college?" | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
You know, it was kind of like, "OK, are we going away? | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
"If we're not, we're going to stay here? What are we going to do? | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
And we started to work rather than go straight to school. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
Brenda got a job as a systems analyst | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
on the 97th floor of the North Tower. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
I used to visit her all the time. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
We'd have lunch, we'd go to concerts, | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
that'd be down in the building. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
She didn't like heights and she didn't like being near a window. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
And she had both. She was up high | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
and she had a big window. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:20 | |
But I think the more she worked there, she got used to it. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
I remember looking out the window and I go, "Is it raining?" | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
She'd go, "I can't tell". That's how high up they were. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:30 | |
She was up there. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
The minute we went to college, he sprouted, he grew almost six feet, | 0:15:39 | 0:15:44 | |
handsome, proud to be his sister, | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
you know, I'd walk into the party, "That's Mikey D's sister!" | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
He was Mikey D, I was Lisa D. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:51 | |
Actually, my brother convinced me to take the police test to begin with. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:55 | |
He's like, "Take the police test with me". | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
I'm like, "Ah, I don't know if I want to do that". | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
We both took the test and I ended up becoming the police officer | 0:15:59 | 0:16:03 | |
and he ended up becoming the broker. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
Yeah. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:06 | |
He worried so much about me every day. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
I mean, he would call me every morning, every night, | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
make sure I got home from work OK, make sure I got into work OK. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
You know, it was nice to know that someone always cared that much, | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
and it was almost to a point where, | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
"Ok, Michael. You don't have to call me as much. Everything is fine". | 0:16:21 | 0:16:25 | |
I have to say, he was my number one fan. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
Michael worked for investment bank Cantor Fitzgerald | 0:16:30 | 0:16:35 | |
right near the very top of the North Tower. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
Being a banker, I never had to worry about him. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
I went to visit him once at the Trade Center | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
and really wasn't a fan of it. It just was so tall. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
The Trade Center was so confusing and there were so many entrances | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
and it was just so high. Cos it was nerve-wracking. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
the building always felt like it was swaying. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:54 | |
I wasn't comfortable there. I didn't really go visit him again after that. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
If I needed something, I made him come downstairs. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
I'm like, "I'm not going back up there". | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
You know, going back to 9/11... | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
I know, sometimes I blame myself for him not being here. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
He wouldn't have been there to die, if I didn't do what I did. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:19 | |
Andre was out of town when the opportunity arose to work overtime. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:24 | |
But there was only one way he could get back in time. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
He called me from North Carolina and said, | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
"Zack, do you think you can pick me up from the airport?" | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
I was like, "Well, what time do you expect to be in?" | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
He says, "Twelve, midnight". I says, "Oh, hell, no". | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
I said, "There's no way in hell I'm going to pick you up". | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
He got pissed, he cursed me off, he slammed down the phone. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
I'm like, "Ppff, I don't care". | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
Phone rings again in ten minutes. "Come on, man. Come pick me up". | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
The phone, he must have hanged up about five times. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
I said, "Fine". I said, "You owe me so big". | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
'Good morning New York, it's a beautiful day in Manhattan...' | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
'..traffic's moving slowly over the Brooklyn Bridge. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
'It's backed up all the way to the Brooklyn Queen's...' | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
'Coming up in the news today, guess who's been hinting he may return to the NBA...' | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
On September 11th 2001, | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
14,154 people were already in the buildings | 0:18:20 | 0:18:25 | |
when the first plane struck the North Tower at 8.46am. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:30 | |
WHOOSHING NOISE | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
Holy shit! | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
Holy shit. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
The World Trade Center, tower number one | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
is on fire, the whole outside of the building. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
There was just a huge explosion. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
Ten-four, all companies stand by... | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
It was a beautiful Tuesday morning and I actually worked | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
in a undercover building in narcotics right up on the Westside Highway | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
and someone told me that I should call my brother, | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
that something was going on at the Trade Center. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
So I called my brother's phone line and it rang and no-one answered, which was odd. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
So I said, "I wonder what's going on down there?" | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
So I went to the corner, looked up, saw his building and I saw smoke coming out of his tower, | 0:19:17 | 0:19:22 | |
and I said, "That's not good". | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
'We have fire on several floors...' | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
Michael, Lisa's twin brother | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
was five storeys above the area of impact | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
on the 104th floor of the North Tower. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
So I said, "I'm going to run down there". | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
As I was getting closer, I saw, you know, | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
hundreds of people coming towards me now. And I'm like, this is not good. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
But being a police officer, I'm used to running toward situations | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
so it wasn't uncommon for me to be running towards something and people coming towards me. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:54 | |
I knew it was bad. But I didn't think it was that bad. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:58 | |
'Engine one. World Trade Center. Send every available ambulance | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
'everything you've got to World Trade Center now...' | 0:20:02 | 0:20:06 | |
'Please go to World Trade Center. Please go to World Trade Center.' | 0:20:06 | 0:20:11 | |
When I woke up, all I heard was sirens. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
Cos I was in Brooklyn, all I heard was sirens and I heard... | 0:20:15 | 0:20:20 | |
I said, "What the hell's going on?" I looked out and, man, it's a beautiful day. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:24 | |
There was not a cloud in the sky. That's what was so eerie about it. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
Andre hit me up on my phone. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
He says, "Yo, get your ass up and get to work". | 0:20:29 | 0:20:33 | |
I was like, "I'm not working, I'm off". | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
He says, "Dude, they're having a recall". | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
He says, "Go in, get into work immediately". | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
He says, "A plane just went into the World Trade Center". | 0:20:41 | 0:20:45 | |
I'm like, "Get outta here! Stop bullshitting me". | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
'Attention all units. By the order of the Citywide tour commander, | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
'all off duty firefighters are hereby recalled. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
'Repeating, by the order of the Citywide tour commander | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
'all off duty firefighters...' | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
I wasn't working at the time and Geoff thought | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
it was fun to call me at 7.15 every morning | 0:21:03 | 0:21:07 | |
to say, "Go get 'em. Hit the pavement". | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
Pamela's twin brother, Jeffrey, a research analyst, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
was working on the 89th floor of the South Tower. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
It wasn't a surprise when the phone rang and I said, "I'm up, I'm up". | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
And he said, "Don't panic." | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
He didn't even say hello, he said, "Don't panic. I'm fine". | 0:21:25 | 0:21:30 | |
He said, "It's not a big deal, but a tiny commuter plane just crashed into the building next door. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:36 | |
"They're saying we're safe, we're staying put. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
"They want to worry about evacuating people from the other building". | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
I knew right away that it wasn't a small plane, | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
just looking at it. I didn't feel anything, | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
It wasn't like, "Oh, my God, my twin's..." | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
I mean, I just looked at it and said, "That is serious and that is a big plane." | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
I said, "Oh, my God, all those people are dead". | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
Greg's identical twin, Stephen, | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
worked at the same company as Lisa's brother, Michael | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
on the 104th floor. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
And then I started... You know, called the cell phone, | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
called the desk, which is ringing. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
You know, the cell phone it rang, his voice message picked up. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
"Steve, please call me. Please call me. See what's going on". | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
So as each minute... 8.51, 8.52, | 0:22:24 | 0:22:28 | |
8.55, 8.57... It's like... It's a like a drum getting louder | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
and I started feeling like I was hyperventilating. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
I called him back | 0:22:40 | 0:22:41 | |
and I said, "Can you get out of there? | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
"I don't like this. This is making me very, very uncomfortable. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:49 | |
You know, "Why won't they let you leave? That just seems weird to me. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
"If you want to leave, leave. Just get in the elevator and leave". | 0:22:52 | 0:22:56 | |
And he said, "OK, I got to go... | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
"We're going to leave". | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
I said, "OK". | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
And they had closed the Brooklyn Bridge down. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
So nobody can get across it. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
And I said, "Look, my fire house is on the other side, I need to get there. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:15 | |
They said, "Go ahead". | 0:23:15 | 0:23:16 | |
And I got there and I saw his rig going in through the Battery tunnel. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:23 | |
Zack's twin brother Andre worked for a special rescue unit | 0:23:25 | 0:23:29 | |
based on Staten Island. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
He arrived at the scene some time before Zack. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
I phoned on his radio and I said, "Andre, I know the way you guys operate". | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
I said, "Don't do anything stupid". | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
I said, "I love you". | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
He says, "I love you too, bro". | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
And the weird thing about it is... | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
Why did I say, "I love you?" | 0:23:56 | 0:23:57 | |
I rarely told my brother I loved him. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
I mean, cos we knew it. It was just something you knew. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
I must have called the cell phone four or five times. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
And I tried the cell phone again, so I remember it was like a little after nine o'clock, | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
he picks up, he's like, "Hello". He didn't say hello, he said, "Greg". | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
I go, "Steve, is that you?" He goes, "Greg, it's me". | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
And it was very static-y, and I said, "Steve?", he goes, "Yeah?" I go, | 0:24:19 | 0:24:23 | |
"Are you all right?" He goes, "Yeah, we're all right". And then this... | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
At that point, with maybe a five second, six second phone call, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
I'm looking at the TV, I'm watching the other plane come in. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
And I remember the last thing Stephen said was, "Oh, my God. Look at that". | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
Then the phone went dead. And then all the cell phones went. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:57 | |
But at that moment he was alive. I remember looking at my clock, | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
saying, "OK, it's going to take at least an hour to get down. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
"It's a mess, but you know what, now they're going to get down". | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
'We're getting reports on the 104th floor, | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
'back room, 25 to 30 people trapped. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
'I also have the 103rd floor, north west room...' | 0:25:13 | 0:25:18 | |
RADIO INTERFERENCE | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
At that point it was pretty much chaos. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
The second plane hit, | 0:25:28 | 0:25:29 | |
you don't know what's going on but you knew it was bad. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
When you look up at the Trade Center... | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
And I saw people jumping out the windows and off the roof | 0:25:34 | 0:25:38 | |
and people were screaming in horror. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:39 | |
It was almost like you were in a tunnel, like you were in a vision tunnel now. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:43 | |
Because you almost couldn't hear anything any more. It was like time froze. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
But when I got a block from the Trade Center and I saw it | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
and I knew he was in there... | 0:25:54 | 0:25:58 | |
I almost felt like he may have kept me out. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
Because any other... I really do believe, and I've thought about this, | 0:26:00 | 0:26:04 | |
any other time I would run into that building, I would run into, you know, stores getting robbed, | 0:26:04 | 0:26:09 | |
and I was running into bad situations all the time. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
But why did I stay out of this one? | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
Why did I get a block close and not go in? | 0:26:14 | 0:26:18 | |
At around this time, | 0:26:23 | 0:26:25 | |
Greg's brother Stephen was trapped in a conference room | 0:26:25 | 0:26:29 | |
with colleagues from Cantor Fitzgerald. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
There were phone calls | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
and a young woman who worked at Cantor... | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
..had called home at 9.17 trying to speak to her mom, | 0:26:38 | 0:26:44 | |
and left a very frantic message for her mother. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
Hysterically crying, upset, cos it was a half-an-hour | 0:26:47 | 0:26:51 | |
after the first airplane had hit their building | 0:26:51 | 0:26:53 | |
and they realised they were trapped. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
ANSWERPHONE BEEPS | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
'Tuesday 9.17am.' | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
SHE SOBS | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
And they realised that their fate was pretty set, | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
and they kind of... I think they all at that point understood | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
that they were not going to... they were going to die. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
There was a voice that came in behind her | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
and they said... | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
She said, "Mom", and he said, "Tell them there's 30, 40 of us | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
"in a northwest conference room". And her voice came in, | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
"Mom, there are 30 or 40 of us in the northwest conference room. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:46 | |
The voice in the background belonged to Stephen. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
He would say something, she would repeat it. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
And she couldn't get through to anybody, she was talking to a voice machine. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
And I can only imagine how horrifying that must have been | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
and how scary and all those other things it must have been, | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
but for me it was nice to know that Stephen came there and comforted her. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
This was one of the last phone calls from the North Tower. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:15 | |
I was so glad to hear his voice again, | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
because at that point I was starting to say, "Did I even imagine I had that phone call with Stephen? | 0:28:19 | 0:28:25 | |
"Was it... Was it real?" | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
And I... and I remember... | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
when the cell phone bill came in, | 0:28:30 | 0:28:32 | |
I just looked at the bill, I just wanted to make sure. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
9.02, there's my cell phone, there's his cell phone. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
I remember going into my fire house. I signed in. Both trucks were out. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:56 | |
Most of the guys' gear was stripped off their racks. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
And we started walking up to the World Trade Center, | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
which was only about ten minutes, tops. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
'Have MSU activate all their spares, bring all their spares | 0:29:06 | 0:29:11 | |
"and all spare bottles... to number one World Trade Center.' | 0:29:11 | 0:29:15 | |
I said to him, I said, "Cap, hold on, wait here". | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
I said, "I'm going to go grab a few more bottles, air bottles". | 0:29:18 | 0:29:22 | |
He looked at me, he was like, "Good idea". | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
From the time I left the captain, to come back, get the bottles, | 0:29:26 | 0:29:32 | |
then go back to meet him, | 0:29:32 | 0:29:33 | |
I'd probably burned about nine-ten minutes. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:37 | |
Geoff had been injured in a fire. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
He was on light duty at Metrotech in Brooklyn. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:45 | |
He was looking out the window watching the towers burn | 0:29:45 | 0:29:49 | |
when the second plane hit Tower Two and... | 0:29:49 | 0:29:54 | |
they caught him twice trying to sneak out | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
and the third time him and Lieutenant Polsino got out, | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
jumped on the subway | 0:30:01 | 0:30:03 | |
and got over to Chinatown and commandeered a vegetable truck | 0:30:03 | 0:30:07 | |
and made some truck driver drive them half way. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
It was just so surreal to feel the heat on the ground | 0:30:10 | 0:30:15 | |
and it was 80 storeys up. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:17 | |
He went into the firehouse there, | 0:30:20 | 0:30:22 | |
put on his bunker gear he took from somebody else's locker. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
I got the impression that they just kind of stood there. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:38 | |
I don't want to use the word overwhelmed, | 0:30:38 | 0:30:40 | |
but it sounds as if... | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
a fire they had never seen or could comprehend, the way he described it. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:49 | |
I don't hold it against the firemen, who didn't go in. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:52 | |
Geoff looked at the fire and decided that was his calling to go. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:59 | |
Geoffrey Guja made his way to the entrance of the South Tower at 9:59am. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:05 | |
LOW RUMBLE | 0:31:12 | 0:31:13 | |
SCREAMING | 0:31:13 | 0:31:15 | |
I can only wish he didn't, but... | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
..everybody said the same thing. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
He'd do it tomorrow. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:24 | |
He wouldn't do it differently. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
LOW RUMBLE | 0:31:26 | 0:31:28 | |
SCREAMING | 0:31:28 | 0:31:32 | |
RUMBLE INTENSIFIES | 0:31:36 | 0:31:38 | |
We just looked and we saw everything coming, | 0:31:44 | 0:31:48 | |
all the crap coming down, we just all grabbed each other | 0:31:48 | 0:31:50 | |
and pushed each other into the side entrance of the building. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:56 | |
Everything is just moving in slow motion, | 0:32:07 | 0:32:09 | |
and you're hearing everything slur... I mean, just like that. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:14 | |
I'm like, "Wow, this cannot be real." | 0:32:14 | 0:32:18 | |
If I didn't go back to get those bottles, | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
I would have actually gone down further and I wouldn't be here. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:30 | |
When the South Tower fell, | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
amongst the many who died was Pamela's brother Jeffrey on the 89th floor. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:05 | |
And Zack's brother, Andre, | 0:33:07 | 0:33:09 | |
who was on his way up the stairs with ten of his colleagues. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:13 | |
As with so many others, their remains were never found. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:18 | |
Geoffrey Guja had just reached the entrance to the building when it fell. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:26 | |
Everybody thought Geoff was a... | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
a cat with nine lives. Nobody ever... | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
Everybody knew that Geoff was going to come up out of the rubble | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
with 14 people on his back. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
You know, he was the hero, he was going to do it. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:42 | |
I just turned around and started running for my life | 0:33:46 | 0:33:48 | |
and the building fell and I got a bunch of blocks away and... | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
I knew at this point I needed... I needed to do something else. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:56 | |
I had to get to my building. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:57 | |
I saw a gentleman sitting in his car and he was frozen, | 0:33:57 | 0:34:01 | |
and I asked him, "You've got to take me back up town to my building." | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
I persuaded him to take me back up to my building. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:08 | |
-How? -Um... | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
I persuaded him to take me back. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
I don't know, a little force, I guess, | 0:34:14 | 0:34:16 | |
but he took me back to my building. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:18 | |
Any gun involved? | 0:34:18 | 0:34:19 | |
Maybe uh... | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
I pressured him a little bit. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
John D'Allara had been at the scene early on | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
and had rescued many inside the North Tower. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
At 10:28, he was outside the building | 0:34:42 | 0:34:44 | |
helping people to safety across the plaza, | 0:34:44 | 0:34:47 | |
now a death trap of falling debris. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
SIREN WAILS | 0:34:50 | 0:34:52 | |
When I heard that a plane had hit the Trade Center, | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
the first thing I did was call Truck Two in Harlem. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:58 | |
I didn't get an answer. I called my sister-in-law, "Where's John?" | 0:34:58 | 0:35:02 | |
"He's working". So I knew that he was down there. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:04 | |
We were at Stuyvesant Heights... | 0:35:04 | 0:35:06 | |
The first plane hits, I wasn't worried. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:08 | |
Second plane hit, wasn't worried. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
When the South Tower came down, didn't bother me. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
But at 10:30, I was in the Carriage House bar on 59th Street, | 0:35:13 | 0:35:18 | |
looking at the TV set and at 10:30 when that... | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
when that building came down, | 0:35:21 | 0:35:23 | |
I nearly jumped out of my skin with anxiety. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:25 | |
"John, holy shit, John. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
"Holy shit, I got to get out of here." | 0:35:27 | 0:35:29 | |
And I went back to my... went back to my office, | 0:35:29 | 0:35:31 | |
My boss said, "Where do you think you're going?" | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
I said, "I have to get out of here. My brother just got killed." | 0:35:34 | 0:35:36 | |
I'll never be able to say that I didn't feel it. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:40 | |
LOW RUMBLE INTENSIFIES | 0:35:44 | 0:35:49 | |
Dan was right. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:00 | |
It was the collapsing North Tower that killed his brother, John. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:04 | |
LOW RUMBLE | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
DISTANT SIRENS WAIL | 0:36:19 | 0:36:23 | |
My...my gut told me it wasn't going to be good news. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:27 | |
But it wasn't anything like I felt, like a sharp pain | 0:36:27 | 0:36:32 | |
or anything like some of the other ones who had lost their twin. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
Some people may have. I didn't feel anything. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:39 | |
So, I'm just wondering... | 0:36:41 | 0:36:44 | |
..why I didn't feel anything. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:47 | |
What happened to those special powers that we were supposed to have? | 0:36:47 | 0:36:51 | |
You didn't know after the buildings collapsed, you still... | 0:36:57 | 0:37:02 | |
you still didn't know. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
You try and do the math in your head. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
Did they have enough time? | 0:37:07 | 0:37:08 | |
Could they have found their way to another stairwell | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
and gone down a back stairwell and escaped the flames? | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
I went into complete denial, I think. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
The second day, there was no word from Geoff. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
It's just... | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
I think everybody kind of knew in their hearts that it was not looking good. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:32 | |
But, again, if anybody could do it, Geoff was going to pull it off. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:37 | |
But... | 0:37:37 | 0:37:39 | |
Third day we kind of... I think everybody... | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
kind of came to the conclusion that... | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
Geoff's not coming back. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
It would eventually be established that 2,752 people | 0:37:57 | 0:38:02 | |
had lost their lives in the attack on the Twin Towers. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:06 | |
The next day that, you know, there was a bunch of rumours, | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
that hospitals have people in them and they're unconscious, not identified. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:15 | |
And being a police officer, we were allowed to go in and out of the city. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:19 | |
Really no-one else was. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:21 | |
And I said, "Listen, give me a list of the names. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
"I'm going to go to these different hospitals | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
"and I'll give you guys a call and let you know, if anybody's there." | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
The bad news was every time I had to call them I had to tell them there wasn't anybody in any hospital. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:36 | |
Of those who died, only 293 intact bodies were ever found. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:43 | |
And only 12 could be identified by sight. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
I was there on the day he was found | 0:38:54 | 0:38:56 | |
because they had dressed me up and took me in there to see it. | 0:38:56 | 0:39:02 | |
It was funny, as I told you, because somebody thought I was Geoff. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
I was all dressed up in fireman's gear, | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
and one of the firemen saw my face and he come running up to me | 0:39:07 | 0:39:11 | |
like he was going to deck me or hit me, | 0:39:11 | 0:39:13 | |
because how dare I wait four days to tell everybody I'm still alive. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:17 | |
But he... | 0:39:17 | 0:39:19 | |
We told him that, no, this is Geoff's twin. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:23 | |
My captain says, "What do you want to do? | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
"You want to take a vacation or you want to continue to work at the pile?" | 0:39:29 | 0:39:33 | |
We called it the pile. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
I said, "No. I want to work the pile." | 0:39:36 | 0:39:38 | |
Not only was I looking for my brother, | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
I was looking for the guys from my firehouse that died. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:45 | |
Out of 343 members that died, I must have known... | 0:39:48 | 0:39:52 | |
..this is including my brother, about 125, 130 of them. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
And I could call probably... | 0:39:58 | 0:40:00 | |
..15 to 20 of them my CLOSE friends. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:07 | |
Oh, God. There's things I saw that nobody should see, you know. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:15 | |
The stench was so terrible. It was disgusting. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:19 | |
It could wrench your stomach | 0:40:19 | 0:40:21 | |
and I remember picking a piece of something up, | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
and it was such a bad smell, and anything like that you found, you had to red bag it. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:30 | |
I've never gotten anything from Andre at all. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
Nobody from his unit, nobody got anything. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
The Twin Towers, you looked at them as the power and the strength. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:46 | |
They symbolised so much, and I feel my brother and I did the same. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
We were strong together. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
And, you know, so when they collapsed, | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
you know, they broke and... | 0:40:55 | 0:40:57 | |
and so did my brother and I. You know, we broke also. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
For the surviving twins, | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
the days leading up to 9/11 have become locked in memory. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
That weekend before, we took this great long walk and we talked, | 0:41:38 | 0:41:43 | |
we just had fun. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:45 | |
We laughed and when I think back on it now, it was... | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
..kind of a perfect way to... | 0:41:51 | 0:41:52 | |
..spend time with him. | 0:41:57 | 0:41:59 | |
I drove him to the airport. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:02 | |
Back then, you could walk to the gate, you could walk to the gate! | 0:42:02 | 0:42:06 | |
And I just had a icky sick feeling in my stomach. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
"God, what if this were the last time I ever see him?" | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
I remember thinking that. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
He called and he said, "I'm home," and I remember thinking, "Oh, thank God." | 0:42:15 | 0:42:19 | |
The Sunday prior to that, | 0:42:22 | 0:42:23 | |
a friend always organised a family day trip at Yankee Stadium. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:27 | |
My brother would never go because he was a die-hard Met fan. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
A bunch of my friends were there that had never met my brother, | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
so they finally got to meet, you know, the famous Mikey D, | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
and it was a great day overall. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:39 | |
I remember looking at him in the seat saying, | 0:42:39 | 0:42:41 | |
"This is such a good day." | 0:42:41 | 0:42:43 | |
You know, all my friends are here and he's here and... | 0:42:43 | 0:42:45 | |
..and, you know, a die-hard Met fan at the Yankee stadium watching a game. It was fantastic. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:51 | |
I remember that night before 9/11 | 0:42:57 | 0:43:02 | |
and got a great surf report and I called Steve and I said, "Call Rob Jordan." | 0:43:02 | 0:43:07 | |
I said, "Let's do sunrise, let's do some sunrise surfing tomorrow." | 0:43:07 | 0:43:11 | |
We'll surf for a couple of hours and go into work a little bit late. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:15 | |
And we had done that so many times, | 0:43:15 | 0:43:17 | |
and Stephen's usually the guy calling me. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:19 | |
But some other guys were on vacation so he couldn't go in late that day. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:23 | |
Cos if those guys, if Rob and Steve, if we'd gone surfing that morning, | 0:43:26 | 0:43:31 | |
they would have been on the later train and they would have, | 0:43:31 | 0:43:34 | |
they would have not been at work until after about nine o'clock. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:38 | |
And, you know, you look back and say, "If only if..." | 0:43:40 | 0:43:42 | |
This place is where Stephen lived and loved, | 0:43:45 | 0:43:49 | |
he lived in Long Beach at the time. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:51 | |
A few times I came down here afterwards, | 0:43:51 | 0:43:53 | |
you know, like a twin, people would confuse you. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:55 | |
One guy came running over, he's like, "Steve! | 0:43:55 | 0:43:57 | |
"Steve! I'm so glad you made it!" | 0:43:57 | 0:43:59 | |
And for a second he was so happy. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:02 | |
And as he got closer to me, he realised that I wasn't Steve. | 0:44:02 | 0:44:06 | |
He's like, "You're Steve's twin, aren't you?" And I said, "Yeah, I'm Greg." | 0:44:06 | 0:44:10 | |
I came home and found the video tape of, like, one of our football games or one of our weddings. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:29 | |
I had a need just to hear him, see him moving around. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:33 | |
Stephen and Greg's lives had always been inextricably linked. | 0:44:40 | 0:44:45 | |
From school, they went to college together | 0:44:45 | 0:44:47 | |
where they met their future wives, Gabrielle | 0:44:47 | 0:44:52 | |
and Aileen. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:54 | |
I liked her, I liked her right away. She was great. | 0:44:57 | 0:45:00 | |
We all melded together - it was the four of us. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:03 | |
We did everything together really. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:05 | |
We did. But I was afraid of her because... | 0:45:05 | 0:45:08 | |
I was so kind. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:09 | |
She wasn't. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:11 | |
I was so nice. What did I do to you? | 0:45:11 | 0:45:13 | |
She was definitely... | 0:45:13 | 0:45:15 | |
Intimidating. | 0:45:15 | 0:45:16 | |
She was intimidating. She was intimidating, | 0:45:16 | 0:45:19 | |
but she wanted to make sure that I was going to date Greg. | 0:45:19 | 0:45:22 | |
Because, you know, Stephen and Greg were like this, so I had to like her. | 0:45:22 | 0:45:26 | |
The four of us had the greatest time. | 0:45:26 | 0:45:28 | |
It really was unique. Very special. | 0:45:28 | 0:45:30 | |
It was just fun. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:32 | |
We'd just do things together. | 0:45:32 | 0:45:34 | |
-We moved near each other. -Our lives were samey... | 0:45:34 | 0:45:36 | |
She had a baby, even though she was younger, | 0:45:36 | 0:45:40 | |
because I was like so not into it... | 0:45:40 | 0:45:42 | |
Sorry! Sorry but Mummy was the oldest girl. | 0:45:42 | 0:45:45 | |
I took care of my brothers and sisters, I was done. | 0:45:45 | 0:45:48 | |
You had Madison and I was like, "Stephen, this is unbelievable, we have to do this.". | 0:45:48 | 0:45:52 | |
A year later we had Madeline. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:54 | |
Gregory and Stephen did a lot of things, they coached football. | 0:45:55 | 0:45:59 | |
They did a lot of things together. | 0:45:59 | 0:46:01 | |
Because we really did love each other pretty instantly, | 0:46:01 | 0:46:04 | |
we did things together. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:06 | |
Also, when we were both equally angry at them at times, | 0:46:06 | 0:46:09 | |
we'd curse them together and it was comforting. | 0:46:09 | 0:46:12 | |
ALL TALK AT ONCE | 0:46:12 | 0:46:15 | |
I was a little jealous sometimes of anybody who was in a couple, | 0:46:15 | 0:46:18 | |
anybody who still had their husband. My husband was young. 36 years old. | 0:46:18 | 0:46:22 | |
It wasn't like he was sick. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:24 | |
He was healthy, beautiful, strong, you know, | 0:46:24 | 0:46:26 | |
and he's gone in one day. | 0:46:26 | 0:46:28 | |
One time at a wedding right after Steve died, I asked Gregory, | 0:46:35 | 0:46:38 | |
I said, "Dance with me. Don't talk. | 0:46:38 | 0:46:43 | |
"I want to pretend I'm dancing with your brother.". | 0:46:43 | 0:46:45 | |
Like in Ghost. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:46 | |
He was like, "OK". I was like, "I just want to dance with Steve, so just close your mouth." | 0:46:46 | 0:46:50 | |
You feel like him, just dance with me. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:52 | |
He did and it was wonderful and I closed my eyes, | 0:46:52 | 0:46:55 | |
and I danced with my husband in my head and it was wonderful. | 0:46:55 | 0:46:59 | |
And Gregory had said something that I never thought of when Stephen died. | 0:47:03 | 0:47:08 | |
He said, "We're like a car. | 0:47:08 | 0:47:09 | |
"You know, the four wheels and we're just cruising along. | 0:47:09 | 0:47:12 | |
"It was this beautiful relationship, | 0:47:12 | 0:47:14 | |
"and then one of the wheels was missing and everything just stopped." | 0:47:14 | 0:47:18 | |
It took almost a year for the pile to be cleared. | 0:47:22 | 0:47:26 | |
John's co-workers never stopped looking for him, never gave up hope. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:32 | |
We didn't know if we were going to get any remains, but it took seven months, | 0:47:32 | 0:47:35 | |
I got a call. "We found his gun, we're sending a car for you." | 0:47:35 | 0:47:40 | |
On April 11th 2002, | 0:47:46 | 0:47:49 | |
Dan helped carry his twin brother's body out of Ground Zero. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:54 | |
Someone said to me, "You suffered a loss among losses." | 0:47:57 | 0:48:01 | |
Twins certainly did. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:04 | |
There's a fatigue that comes with this, | 0:48:04 | 0:48:06 | |
that just lingers and lingers and lingers, | 0:48:06 | 0:48:09 | |
and that day we made the recovery | 0:48:09 | 0:48:11 | |
or June 11th when we did the internment, | 0:48:11 | 0:48:14 | |
that was the end of the beginning. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:17 | |
Unlike many whose loved one's remains were never found, | 0:48:27 | 0:48:31 | |
Dan was able to bury his brother. | 0:48:31 | 0:48:34 | |
All right, John, we'll see you next trip. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:40 | |
My focus after 9/11 was finding her, | 0:48:46 | 0:48:50 | |
and I was so zoned in on finding her, I didn't... | 0:48:50 | 0:48:54 | |
Nothing else mattered. | 0:48:54 | 0:48:57 | |
And then, when she wasn't found, it was like, "So what do I do now?" | 0:48:57 | 0:49:01 | |
Well, I stopped work for a while after that. | 0:49:01 | 0:49:05 | |
Stayed home. | 0:49:05 | 0:49:07 | |
It was like I just couldn't do anything. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:10 | |
It was like I didn't want to do anything. | 0:49:10 | 0:49:12 | |
I was just home most of the time. | 0:49:12 | 0:49:14 | |
It was two years before Linda felt able to leave the house | 0:49:14 | 0:49:18 | |
and return to her job as a schoolteacher. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:22 | |
During this time, her marriage ended. | 0:49:22 | 0:49:25 | |
Everything revolved around being a twin. | 0:49:25 | 0:49:28 | |
I thought eventually he would catch on, he would understand, | 0:49:28 | 0:49:31 | |
but that didn't happen. | 0:49:31 | 0:49:33 | |
I still tell my mother to this day | 0:49:33 | 0:49:36 | |
that I have poor social skills because I was a twin. | 0:49:36 | 0:49:39 | |
I didn't need to talk to anybody, didn't need to have any friends, | 0:49:39 | 0:49:43 | |
I didn't need to do things with other people because | 0:49:43 | 0:49:46 | |
we were always together. | 0:49:46 | 0:49:48 | |
If I knew then what I know now, | 0:49:48 | 0:49:50 | |
I think I would have developed, you know, more of a Linda personality, | 0:49:50 | 0:49:54 | |
as opposed to Brenda-Linda that we grew up as. | 0:49:54 | 0:49:57 | |
I remember the first anniversary, | 0:49:57 | 0:49:59 | |
I said, "Wow, one year as just Linda." You know. | 0:49:59 | 0:50:04 | |
And it seemed like every year is like, | 0:50:04 | 0:50:06 | |
"OK, this is two years as just Linda." | 0:50:06 | 0:50:09 | |
So I guess I'm turning ten years old in September. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:14 | |
I was very worried about Greg. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:20 | |
Gregory said at one point, it's like he... | 0:50:20 | 0:50:24 | |
When the first building fell down, | 0:50:24 | 0:50:26 | |
the second one was still standing | 0:50:26 | 0:50:28 | |
and it was burning, and that's how he felt - like the standing twin. | 0:50:28 | 0:50:32 | |
It was after a year, | 0:50:35 | 0:50:36 | |
and that's when it really hit me. | 0:50:36 | 0:50:40 | |
Because the shock was over. | 0:50:40 | 0:50:42 | |
I was very depressed, you know. | 0:50:42 | 0:50:44 | |
I remember one time, I would go for long walks, | 0:50:44 | 0:50:46 | |
and I remember on St Patrick's Day 2003, | 0:50:46 | 0:50:49 | |
walking out over the Brooklyn Bridge, | 0:50:49 | 0:50:52 | |
and I remember just looking out over one of the eye beams, | 0:50:52 | 0:50:55 | |
and said, "Look, if I..." | 0:50:55 | 0:50:57 | |
The pain... | 0:50:57 | 0:50:58 | |
The pain of loss was so emotional - | 0:50:58 | 0:51:01 | |
it was something that was just so powerful. | 0:51:01 | 0:51:04 | |
You couldn't just turn it on or turn it off. | 0:51:06 | 0:51:08 | |
It was very difficult, and very difficult to deal with. | 0:51:08 | 0:51:11 | |
I remember saying to myself, | 0:51:11 | 0:51:12 | |
"I jump up on there, I take five steps, jump, my pain will be over." | 0:51:12 | 0:51:17 | |
There was one morning when he said to me... | 0:51:25 | 0:51:30 | |
We were laying in bed and he said, "I was at my spot again." | 0:51:30 | 0:51:33 | |
I said, "What do you mean, your spot?" | 0:51:33 | 0:51:35 | |
"My spot." | 0:51:35 | 0:51:36 | |
"What does that mean, your spot?" | 0:51:36 | 0:51:38 | |
He said, "On the Brooklyn Bridge." | 0:51:38 | 0:51:40 | |
"Brooklyn Bridge? What do you mean?" | 0:51:40 | 0:51:43 | |
"Where I stand and think about jumping." | 0:51:43 | 0:51:45 | |
I was like, "OK, game over, we're done. | 0:51:45 | 0:51:48 | |
"I'm not doing this any more.". | 0:51:48 | 0:51:50 | |
And that is honestly what propelled me to say | 0:51:50 | 0:51:53 | |
we need to do something quick because that's not an option. | 0:51:53 | 0:51:57 | |
So I said, | 0:52:00 | 0:52:02 | |
"Let's have a support group, let's have a network." | 0:52:02 | 0:52:05 | |
I just wanted to build something so that they can have one another, | 0:52:05 | 0:52:08 | |
and the truth is, it was to take off some of my burden, | 0:52:08 | 0:52:11 | |
for some people to help Gregory because I couldn't do it. | 0:52:11 | 0:52:15 | |
The family, we did it to a certain extent, no doubt, but he needed more. | 0:52:15 | 0:52:19 | |
We brought 17 of the twins together for a social event in the city | 0:52:22 | 0:52:27 | |
and it was phenomenal. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:29 | |
You could see when people came in, they looked at each other, | 0:52:29 | 0:52:32 | |
and there was that unspoken language | 0:52:32 | 0:52:34 | |
that I was wanting to see and feel and have for the twins. | 0:52:34 | 0:52:38 | |
That's where your brother liked to go. | 0:52:38 | 0:52:39 | |
Today, ten years after the event, some of the twins still meet | 0:52:39 | 0:52:44 | |
to share memories. | 0:52:44 | 0:52:46 | |
These are the guys that died from my firehouse. 13 guys and my brother. | 0:52:47 | 0:52:51 | |
Your brother was a sergeant? | 0:52:51 | 0:52:53 | |
No, he was a regular White Shield police officer. | 0:52:53 | 0:52:56 | |
Were you identical? | 0:52:56 | 0:52:58 | |
You would think we were... | 0:52:58 | 0:53:00 | |
Yes, you guys... | 0:53:00 | 0:53:01 | |
..when you look at the pictures. No, we were fraternal. | 0:53:01 | 0:53:05 | |
I see my niece and nephew a lot. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:07 | |
I think sometime it gets to them because I sound so much like her, | 0:53:07 | 0:53:10 | |
so when I call, "You sound just like Mom." | 0:53:10 | 0:53:14 | |
One thing I did is I would blame myself for his death. | 0:53:14 | 0:53:19 | |
I never knew not being a twin. | 0:53:19 | 0:53:22 | |
There's nothing odd - that's why I'm amused by it all. | 0:53:22 | 0:53:25 | |
Everybody has a fascination with twins. To me, it's perfectly normal. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:29 | |
It does wonders for the healing in the heart | 0:53:29 | 0:53:31 | |
to know that, hey, you know, we got each other. | 0:53:31 | 0:53:34 | |
You don't have your twin, but you know what? | 0:53:34 | 0:53:36 | |
Maybe this is the next best thing. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:39 | |
It ain't oatmeal, but cornflakes ain't half bad sometimes! | 0:53:39 | 0:53:42 | |
So we can be like twins now. | 0:53:43 | 0:53:46 | |
You could be my twin sister. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:48 | |
You're stuck with me for life, that means. Sorry. I talk a lot. | 0:53:48 | 0:53:51 | |
That's good. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:54 | |
To speak to people, | 0:53:54 | 0:53:56 | |
and to share my feelings with other twins, was er... | 0:53:56 | 0:53:59 | |
..was monumental. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:02 | |
It was very important and satisfying. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:06 | |
With so few bodies recovered, making traditional burials impossible, | 0:54:10 | 0:54:15 | |
9/11 memorials have taken on a special significance. | 0:54:15 | 0:54:20 | |
I mean, they didn't recover any of my brother's remains | 0:54:35 | 0:54:38 | |
so I know he's still there. | 0:54:38 | 0:54:40 | |
I signed a waiver not to be identified if remains are found. | 0:54:41 | 0:54:46 | |
I just feel it'll bring up too much for me. | 0:54:46 | 0:54:49 | |
I don't know how I would react to that. | 0:54:49 | 0:54:52 | |
I know where my brother is. | 0:54:52 | 0:54:54 | |
You know, I can pray there when I want to pray there, | 0:54:54 | 0:54:56 | |
and I don't need to know any more. | 0:54:56 | 0:54:58 | |
What do you guys remember? | 0:55:05 | 0:55:07 | |
One thing has got to jump out when they say "Uncle Geoff". | 0:55:07 | 0:55:10 | |
Happiness. | 0:55:10 | 0:55:12 | |
Oh! | 0:55:12 | 0:55:13 | |
He was the happiest guy. | 0:55:13 | 0:55:15 | |
You guys weren't around then but your mother was in the picture. | 0:55:15 | 0:55:18 | |
I pray for my kids to be healthy and to be happy. | 0:55:18 | 0:55:21 | |
God willing, to get married and to have children, | 0:55:21 | 0:55:25 | |
but for me to see a pair of twins before I leave this Earth | 0:55:25 | 0:55:29 | |
would be a... | 0:55:29 | 0:55:30 | |
There would probably be nothing else I would ask for. | 0:55:30 | 0:55:34 | |
It's pretty ironic that I was a twin, | 0:55:36 | 0:55:39 | |
and now my partner and I have twin boys, Michael and Cooper. | 0:55:39 | 0:55:42 | |
I was so excited to be a twin, | 0:55:42 | 0:55:44 | |
and to know that my sons are now twins, I'm so happy for them. | 0:55:44 | 0:55:48 | |
I felt so satisfied for Lisa, believe it or not, | 0:55:50 | 0:55:56 | |
because Lisa was, "I'm good with one, we don't need two." | 0:55:56 | 0:56:00 | |
And I secretly | 0:56:00 | 0:56:02 | |
had always wanted twins, to watch her raise twins. | 0:56:02 | 0:56:06 | |
Yeah, yeah, you see your brother? | 0:56:06 | 0:56:08 | |
Yeah, yeah! | 0:56:08 | 0:56:11 | |
Since the boys have been born, | 0:56:11 | 0:56:14 | |
the happiness, | 0:56:14 | 0:56:17 | |
or completeness, | 0:56:17 | 0:56:19 | |
something fulfilled in her life since then, which is amazing. | 0:56:19 | 0:56:23 | |
What, what? Where's Mommy? | 0:56:23 | 0:56:26 | |
Where did Mommy go? | 0:56:26 | 0:56:28 | |
Here she is! | 0:56:28 | 0:56:29 | |
Michael, come on. | 0:56:31 | 0:56:34 | |
Hands up. Wheee! | 0:56:35 | 0:56:37 | |
Ten years after the tragedy of 9/11, the footprint of the Twin Towers | 0:56:42 | 0:56:47 | |
has been preserved as a monument to those who lost their lives. | 0:56:47 | 0:56:52 | |
Beside them, a single building, the Freedom Tower, | 0:56:54 | 0:56:59 | |
is under construction. | 0:56:59 | 0:57:01 | |
When completed, it will be the tallest building in the United States. | 0:57:02 | 0:57:07 | |
When it comes to twins, | 0:57:15 | 0:57:17 | |
the closeness is that much more intense. That's great. | 0:57:17 | 0:57:21 | |
On the downside, when you have the loss and the separation, | 0:57:21 | 0:57:25 | |
the bereavement is that much greater. | 0:57:25 | 0:57:28 | |
A big part of him died on 9/11, | 0:57:36 | 0:57:38 | |
that I know for sure. | 0:57:38 | 0:57:40 | |
Many of us would say that. | 0:57:40 | 0:57:42 | |
And it took him a long time to come back. | 0:57:42 | 0:57:45 | |
But he did, thank God. | 0:57:45 | 0:57:48 | |
I miss that guy so much. | 0:57:51 | 0:57:53 | |
I actually feel, | 0:57:53 | 0:57:57 | |
and I'm sure the other twins have said the same thing... | 0:57:57 | 0:58:00 | |
Um... I actually feel like I'm missing half of me. | 0:58:03 | 0:58:08 | |
Literally. | 0:58:08 | 0:58:11 | |
DISTANT SIRENS WAIL | 0:58:11 | 0:58:13 | |
So we kind of try to make ourselves feel better, | 0:58:13 | 0:58:17 | |
and we say that Geoff wouldn't have it any other way, | 0:58:17 | 0:58:20 | |
and he did what he wanted to do, and a lot of little cliches. | 0:58:20 | 0:58:24 | |
But, of course, we wish things could be different, but... | 0:58:24 | 0:58:30 | |
Better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all, | 0:58:33 | 0:58:36 | |
we always say. | 0:58:36 | 0:58:38 | |
And it was, er... | 0:58:38 | 0:58:39 | |
That's the way it is. | 0:58:43 | 0:58:45 | |
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