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Hunger is back in the UK. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:06 | |
The cupboards are empty. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
The worst thing is the first two weeks that you go hungry | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
because you're so used to eating normally | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
that you wake up and your body's, like, "Right, food." | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
And you're not eating. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:17 | |
For the first time since the establishment of the welfare state, | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
large numbers of ordinary people are turning to charity | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
to provide food for themselves and their families. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
Sometimes people just give you a dirty look and say, | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
"What are you doing here?" | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
"Look at yourself, look at the way you dress. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
"Do you really need that food?" | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
I've spent six months in one Britain's busiest food banks, | 0:00:35 | 0:00:39 | |
meeting the people who've arrived at a place of last resort. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
From what I can see, you would have less than £100 for electricity, | 0:00:42 | 0:00:46 | |
gas and food per month. You're definitely below the breadline. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:50 | |
We just eat one meal a day. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:52 | |
I won't eat till about ten o'clock so it lasts longer. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
So overnight, you wake up and you're not hungry | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
and you can last the next day. | 0:00:58 | 0:00:59 | |
We've got kids and we've got to think about the kids before ourselves. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
The Hope Centre is one of 11 | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
emergency food distribution centres in Coventry alone. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:19 | |
-Do you want to give them two packs of bacon? -Yeah. That's nice. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:23 | |
Run by a Christian charity, food banks provide three days' food | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
to people in financial crisis. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
There are now nearly 300 around the country | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
and new ones are opening at the rate of two a week. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
Chuck these ones in there. That's the tomatoes done. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
-You've done the cereal. -Yeah. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
We need the soup. Soup, soup. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
Charlotte is a volunteer at the Hope Centre. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:52 | |
-You all right, Tone? -Yeah. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
There's going to be two adults, two kids. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
Cool. | 0:01:58 | 0:01:59 | |
Shall I hands you tins, biggest ones first, yeah? | 0:01:59 | 0:02:03 | |
She has been a client here and is struggling to avoid going hungry. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
When did you last have three meals a day? | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
Possibly Christmas. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:18 | |
-Right. So three months ago. -Yeah. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
Obviously, I get the odd day where I'll eat something, | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
but on the whole, just dinner, really. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
After a while, you learn to just kind of deal with it | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
and pull your energy from somewhere way within. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:38 | |
So now I'm just... | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
I think I constantly buzz off adrenaline or something. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:45 | |
I don't know what it is. But it's not food. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
Brought up in care, Charlotte's a full-time student at sixth-form college | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
and has fallen through a hole in the benefits system. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
You sign that one for me. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
Because I'm in full-time education | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
with no children at the age of 21, | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
there's nothing for me. There's nothing. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
I can't have Housing Benefit, | 0:03:09 | 0:03:10 | |
Income Support, Job Seeker's Allowance. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
What did they say at the Jobcentre? You must've said, "I can't eat." | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
Um, telling me that they're really, really sorry | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
that they can't do anything. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
And then it got worse and worse during the conversation to a point where she said, | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
"The only thing I can suggest is why don't you just have a child? | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
"Then you'd be able to sign on for benefits, if you want to do college." | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
So hang on, so somebody in the benefits agency | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
suggested your solution was to have a child at the age of 21? | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
Yes. At the age of 21. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
Bearing in mind, I'm not mature for a 21-year-old. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
I've been in care. I haven't grown up yet. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
I ended up coming to the food bank. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
The first time was awful. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
You feel so embarrassed. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
You don't even want to pull the food voucher out. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
I was worried about walking home with bags saying "food bank", | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
because I was scared that everyone would know as I walked home | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
that I'd had to go somewhere for food. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
But they give you just normal bags. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
So when I walked home, it was all right. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
'Unlike other food banks around the country | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
'that only hand out non-perishables, Coventry receives a supply | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
'of fresh food, donated by a wholesale supermarket chain. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:28 | |
'Food close to its sell-by date is given to charities | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
'rather than thrown away. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
'It makes a valuable contribution to the standard food parcels.' | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
So, is that looking like a decent amount of fresh food today? | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
Today, yeah. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
Bit more variety than we've had the last couple of weeks. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
Bananas, we haven't had for ages. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:47 | |
Weak muscles, tiny arms. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
'This food has to be distributed on the day it arrives. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
'That means Charlotte gets to take home | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
'some of the leftovers at the end of the day.' | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
So, what have you got today? | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
I've got...bagels, | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
mince, | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
apple pie, | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
vegetable pie, | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
oranges, | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
potato salad and bread... | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
..which will last me about four days, easily. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
'Today's last client arrives as the centre is closing. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
'Kelly is a mother of two who's been sent here by Social Services | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
'and has had to walk miles. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
'She tells me she hasn't eaten for two days.' | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
-How old is he? -Six months. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
Is he on solids yet? | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's greedy. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
'Until the birth of her youngest child, Kelly was a sales manager. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
'She's recently been on statutory maternity benefit, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
'but with a 15-year-old son, | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
'it hasn't been enough to cover their living expenses, | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
'and food has run out.' | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
Yeah. So that's pretty desperate, isn't it? | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
Yeah. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
Baked beans. A few vegetables. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
Yeah, there's bits of everything. Tuna. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
Jack? Come here, babe. Pop those in the freezer. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
Freezer. Ice cream! | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
'And it's not just Kelly who's been going hungry.' | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
Has Jack eaten all right in the last few days? | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
No. Last couple of days, he hasn't at all. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
-What have you eaten today? Have you eaten at school? -He hasn't yet. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
We can't get free school dinners until the Income Support is sorted. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
Which is why I have to come home now to make dinner for him straight from school. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
OK. So, is that why you were so desperate today? | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
-Yeah. For him. -Right. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
It's been hard. He's been eating, but obviously, | 0:06:58 | 0:07:00 | |
not enough to what he should be eating or what he would want to eat. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:04 | |
It's been constantly trying to figure out | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
how to make what we did have stretch just that bit further, | 0:07:07 | 0:07:11 | |
just to make enough so he wasn't hungry. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
But that ran out last night. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:16 | |
The last meal was last night. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
This morning, I rang the Jobcentre, | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
they told me to ring Social Services | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
who spoke to me and told me to go to them | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
to get the voucher for food bank. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
It's something that I never thought I'd see myself doing. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
I'm always the one that gives. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
-Every time a charity bag comes through, I always fill it up. -Right. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
Um...I never thought I'd be on the other end of it. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
'With a low income, Kelly has struggled for years | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
'to keep her head above water | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
'and has now decided to leave the world of work altogether.' | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
Financially, I can't afford to go back into work. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
Not only have I got to pay the mortgage, the council tax, | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
the food, which is what you have to do, anyway, | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
I've then got to find my childcare. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
Where I can stay at home, bring him up myself | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
-and have more money in my hand. -Right. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
So essentially now, you're going to live a life on benefits for while. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
Yeah. Do something that I always said I never wanted to do. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:17 | |
Right. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
The rapid spread of the food bank network | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
is due to the cooperation of the state sector. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
To get the free food parcels, clients must be referred here | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
by social care agencies who assess their situation. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
If they're at the point of desperation, | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
a red voucher is issued. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
-So this is good to go. -OK. -All right? | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
-So you're feeding one adult and two children. -OK. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:45 | |
In theory, there's a limit of three vouchers per crisis | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
to provide a stopgap. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
In reality, though, not all crises are short term, | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
so sometimes, the rules are broken. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
Sandra is a married mother of five. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
Her vouchers are issued by her children's nursery | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
and she's now relying on the food bank on a weekly basis. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:12 | |
So essentially, this has become your regularly weekly shopping trip? | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
Yes. Sometimes they have quite lot to give to us. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:23 | |
-It will last, say, about four days, five. -Right. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
-It depends what they have available at the end of the day. -Sure. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
'She stops at food bank on her way home from part-time voluntary work.' | 0:09:31 | 0:09:35 | |
'The picture you have from food bank | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
'is people, they are poor, they are begging. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
'Seeing myself in that position is quite humiliating.' | 0:09:41 | 0:09:46 | |
-I'll wait here. -OK. -Yeah? Thanks. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
When I come here, I stay here. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
Sometimes people just give you, like, a dirty look, | 0:09:53 | 0:09:57 | |
say, "What are you doing here?" | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
"Look at you, look at the way you dress. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
-"Do you really need that food?" -OK. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
-So you think people are judging you? -Yeah. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
-They didn't have biscuits, so I loaded it with chocolate. -It's OK. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:12 | |
If you tap on that door, you can grab your meat. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
-We've got you a big pack of mince. -Thank you. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
'At this stage, I don't want to consider myself to be poor... | 0:10:16 | 0:10:21 | |
'but I'm not far off.' | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
Like, this week, I have £50 to live on, with the five children. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
That means I need to choose with the £50 between electricity, | 0:10:27 | 0:10:32 | |
gas... food. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
Two years ago, we were settled. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
My husband was working. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
We bought a 50-inch TV, we bought a Mac. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
We have a nice house, and I'm proud. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
Are you going to be good? | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
It was Sandra's refusal to live solely on welfare | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
that caused a catastrophic situation. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
Her husband left work nearly three years ago | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
to study for a career in youth justice. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
Sandra decided to take a part-time job in MacDonald's, | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
not knowing it would halve her Housing Benefit. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
After I find the job, I was quite happy. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:13 | |
When I rung the Revenue to say, "I'm working," | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
is when all the problems started, | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
because it was one benefit after another, just stop, stop, stop. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:23 | |
My salary, every two weeks, being £79, | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
they was expecting me to pay the rest of the rent. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:32 | |
-But your salary was tiny? -Yes. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
OK. So what happened? | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
Basically, we got in trouble. We got behind with the rent. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:42 | |
All the four months I was working for McDonald's, | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
all those months, we was behind with the rent. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:49 | |
Did you end up in the situation because you chose to work? | 0:11:49 | 0:11:54 | |
Yeah. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:55 | |
You were managing OK before that with benefits and student loans and so on? | 0:11:55 | 0:12:00 | |
Yes. I think if I stay in the benefit, | 0:12:00 | 0:12:04 | |
I wouldn't be in so much debt now. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
I decided, "I've had enough. I want to go to work, I want to be able to contribute for the country." | 0:12:06 | 0:12:13 | |
I think that probably was my big mistake. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
Look at that. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
If the food bank hadn't been there, what would you have done? | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
I don't know. I don't think we would be here. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
I would have lost the house, I would have lost myself, | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
because, at the end of the day, it's not easy. You see five children | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
scrambling for food and you don't have owt to support them. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
I can't be crying. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
I can't be down. I can't be stressed and screaming and shouting. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
I can't, because, at the end of the day, I don't want my children | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
to have that picture of me. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
And inside, I'm devastated. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
Irish stew, lovely. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
Most of the food given out by the food banks is non-perishable, | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
and donated by the general public at supermarket collections. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:03 | |
Thank you. Have a great weekend. Thank you. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
Gavin Kibble is Director of the whole Coventry network. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:11 | |
A typical day at this ASDA will generate something between | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
half a tonne and three-quarters of a tonne of food. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:16 | |
Current rate? | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
We're getting through just shy of a tonne a week at the moment. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
So, even if we get three-quarters of a tonne of food today, | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
it probably only lasts about a week. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
I think we're going to run out of food. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
Demand has been growing steadily | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
since the Coventry food bank started in spring last year. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
Several times since I've been here, the Hope Centre has run out of food. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:42 | |
What a day. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:43 | |
There's always enough food in the Coventry network, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
but not always in the right place at the right time. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
-Are you...Craig? -Yes, I am. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
We haven't got enough to feed you today | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
but there is another location open at this time, | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
which is at the Jesus Centre, in Lamb Street. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
How do we know we're not going to go there and the same thing? | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
I could give them a ring, cos we don't know the volumes on any particular day. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
Hi, there. Have you still got food stocks left? | 0:14:09 | 0:14:14 | |
Good. We've been decimated. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
Absolutely wiped out. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
I'm going to put them in the car and bring them down. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
Today, instead of moving food around, | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
clients are having to be moved to another distribution centre. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
We would hold, normally, about a quarter of a tonne of stock. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
It's just gone in the space of an hour and ten minutes. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
I can't put my finger on what has changed out there. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:43 | |
And why that happens one week and doesn't happen another. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
But the point is, it kind of tells you that actually there is a need | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
out there that needs to be met. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:51 | |
Come on in. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
I've bought the overspill with me, to feed them. | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
That's all I could get in the van. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
In the last year, | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
this slightly ad-hoc charitable supply chain has ensured that | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
around 170,000 people throughout the country have received emergency food. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:17 | |
Hello. I'm very sorry to disturb you. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
From the food bank. Just asking for 10p or 20p to help families and children in crisis. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:24 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
A-ha! Your mate just dropped you right in it. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
10p, 20p? | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
That's just rude. This is to feed kids and families. Thanks. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
Charlotte is fundraising at Coventry City College. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:40 | |
Excuse me, before you walk any further, would you like to help | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
Coventry Foodbank just by 10p or 20p? | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
Nah? | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
Thank you, anyway. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
I get very slightly annoyed. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
It's like I have to stop myself. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
Looking around, do you think | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
people are aware of the kind of hardships that some people have? | 0:15:56 | 0:16:00 | |
No. I do this all the time. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:02 | |
I watch people wherever I am. You can never really pick out the ones that are troubled. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
I reckon if you spotted me in a crowd, you wouldn't know I was someone who was struggling. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
Right. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
Do you feel jealous when you look at other people? | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
Very much so. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:17 | |
I would love to have a Blackberry phone like everyone else. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:21 | |
And new clothes, like you see all the girls and their make-up and their clothes. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:25 | |
That's a little bit upsetting. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
Sometimes I wish I had somewhere to go back to, as well, at night, | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
with a family and that. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
The ones who look healthy and chubby and happy, they've got a family. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
What can you tell from looking at these girls? | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
They're like they're really, really happy. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
They obviously ain't got anything else to worry about. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
They're probably just worried about what to wear in the morning. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
That's the least of my worries, that is. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
What do you get up and worry about? | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
How to get electric on, because the electric meter's bleeping, | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
or...when I'm going to eat. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
Look at them! I'd chop my arm off to have one of them! | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
I'd chop my arm off, easy! | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
Look how nice they look! Oh, what I would do! | 0:17:10 | 0:17:15 | |
Look, and she's got a really nice rug. SHE LAUGHS | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
It looks so grotty. Someone's even got their windows boarded up. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:24 | |
This is my lovely front door(!) | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
When we were back at the college, I asked you if I could buy you | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
-a sandwich for lunch. -Yeah. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
Explain to me why you said no. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
Because if I eat at lunch | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
and keep eating, I'll get hungry tomorrow at lunch. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
But if I skip meals in the day, | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
-I can go and just eat at night, just eat my dinner. -Right. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
Do you know what I mean? | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
You're not eating during the day... | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
Yeah, cos it shrinks your belly, so you get less hungry. It oppresses your appetite. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
CHILD SINGS | 0:18:00 | 0:18:01 | |
It's amazing how you can sing today. Go on, get your scooter. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:07 | |
'Darren has just been to Foodbank, having been given a voucher by the Jobcentre.' | 0:18:07 | 0:18:12 | |
It has been a godsend. They really have helped us. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
'Recently made redundant from a management position, | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
'there's been a delay setting up his benefits. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
'He now finds himself battling an unfamiliar system.' | 0:18:21 | 0:18:26 | |
I always used to be very critical of people | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
that went to Jobcentres. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:30 | |
Having experienced it myself, more and more, on a daily basis, | 0:18:30 | 0:18:35 | |
I sympathise with a lot of them. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
I can see where a lot of their frustration comes from, I really can. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
I'd made my benefit claim six weeks ago, and they lost it. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
Everything had gone, completely. They admitted liability. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
It doesn't do a lot of your self-esteem. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:51 | |
It makes you think you're not a human being, just another number. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
'Darren's money has completely run out... | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
'..but the benefits he's owed should be in his account today. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
'We're going to the cashpoint to find out.' | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
Right, here we go. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
Shall we have a look? | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
Are you nervous about this? | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
Yeah, incredibly. Yeah, incredibly. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
And there you have minus £19.22, | 0:19:23 | 0:19:25 | |
which means everything they said they were going to do, | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
they haven't done, so tomorrow morning, I will be back down there. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
I am really fed up now! | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
OK, and how much were you supposed to have in there? | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
£387, or thereabouts. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
Right, and that would have been back pay for the six weeks...? | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
Six weeks, yeah. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
OK, do you want to get me crying? | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
At this point, without Foodbank, what would you be doing to feed your family? | 0:19:52 | 0:19:57 | |
Probably getting a black sack and running up | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
and down this street, throwing things into it. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
I don't know where I would turn. I haven't got the foggiest. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
'Darren now has to take the last £10 out of his savings account.' | 0:20:08 | 0:20:13 | |
Milk and bread. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
'Darren tells me he had a senior managerial job. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
'It seems his sudden fall into poverty could happen to any of us.' | 0:20:21 | 0:20:26 | |
I had been, for a number of years, managing... | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
a group of recruitment agencies. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
I was commuting to Northampton and back, every day, and, erm... | 0:20:31 | 0:20:37 | |
I went there one day and the offices were all locked. I didn't know what was going on. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:42 | |
I came home and next thing I knew, there was a tap on the door. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
"Can we have the car and the laptop back, please?" | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
"Why?" | 0:20:48 | 0:20:49 | |
Cos we're not financially viable, I'm afraid, | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
we've run before we can walk, and we're pulling the plug. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:57 | |
'The following day, Darren heads to the Jobcentre to make a free call | 0:20:57 | 0:21:01 | |
'to the Benefits Agency. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
'On the way, a friend phoned and told him he was unable to lend him | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
'some money. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
'Darren tells me this means his youngest son's birthday | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
'will have to be cancelled.' | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
We've now got to try | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
and explain to a six-year-old child why he's going to wake up on his birthday | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
-and not be like the other kids ripping open wrapping paper for his birthday. -Right. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:26 | |
Of all the stuff that's going on, | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
I guess that must be the most painful? | 0:21:30 | 0:21:31 | |
Absolutely. At the minute, yeah. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
You wouldn't want to be inside my knotted stomach at the minute. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:37 | |
I'll tell you why I'm calling. You can see my claim on there. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
We had to get a food voucher last week, | 0:21:43 | 0:21:47 | |
because you guys had messed up on my claim, | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
which was six weeks ago. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
I've got a family to look after. We've got no money. We'll need to get another food parcel... | 0:21:51 | 0:21:56 | |
and it's my son's birthday, | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
and he won't be receiving anything for his birthday, thanks to you. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
So when's the next available appointment, please? | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
Tuesday next week is the first time you can get me in? | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
It's unacceptable. Unacceptable. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:13 | |
You know, at the end of the day, I wouldn't want you to live | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
in the situation I'm living in right now, I really wouldn't. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:19 | |
HE HANGS UP | 0:22:19 | 0:22:20 | |
'I've got kids similar ages to Darren's, | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
'and the thought of Ben missing out on a birthday was terrible, | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
'so I offered to lend Darren some money for presents.' | 0:22:27 | 0:22:31 | |
Thank you, bye. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:34 | |
'The charity behind Foodbank is called the Trussell Trust, | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
'a Christian organisation that franchises out | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
'the running of food banks to local, mostly evangelical, churches.' | 0:22:47 | 0:22:52 | |
Thank you. See you later, darling! | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
'Gavin, the director of the Coventry network, | 0:23:00 | 0:23:04 | |
'gave up work as an accountant two years ago | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
'to follow a more spiritual road. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
'Tonight, we're on our way to pick up Kelly, | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
'the mother-of-two I'd met earlier. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
'Gavin's invited her to speak at a Christian event.' | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
Kelly's going to be interviewed, as far as I'm aware, on stage. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
What Kelly has to offer is that, at the end of the day, | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
we can talk about the process | 0:23:25 | 0:23:26 | |
and we can talk about how great it is, | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
but that's never expressed as well as through the life of somebody who has benefited from it. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:35 | |
They're quite broken - Kelly's an example of this - | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
and they come along to Foodbank, the cupboard's full, | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
and, for a short time, there's an answer there. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
And we like to think it's a measure of bringing a little bit of heaven into people's lives. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:51 | |
If we can give people an experience | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
of meeting and knowing the living God, great. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:57 | |
That's just fabulous. | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
Hello, you coming? | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
This is a lot of dogs. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:03 | |
You've got the baby. This is your 15-year-old, is it? | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
Hello, 15-year-old. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
Might need a bit of rhythm... | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
# Strength will rise as we wait upon the glory | 0:24:19 | 0:24:23 | |
# Wait upon the glory Wait upon the glory | 0:24:23 | 0:24:29 | |
# Strength will rise as we wait upon the glory... # | 0:24:29 | 0:24:33 | |
Is the environment a bit alien for you? | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
Yeah, a little bit. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
# Lord God, you reign | 0:24:38 | 0:24:42 | |
# For ever | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
# Be to our God, for ever and ever | 0:24:46 | 0:24:53 | |
# Be to our God For ever and ever... # | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
This get-together is organised by Christians Against Poverty, part of an evangelical movement | 0:24:56 | 0:25:02 | |
to provide social services to the most disadvantaged... | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
and to win converts. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:06 | |
Thank you so much for coming to join with us | 0:25:06 | 0:25:10 | |
to remember the poor this evening. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:12 | |
We come together to remember the poor, | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
and we're excited about the fact that, | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
as individuals here this evening, | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
you guys are remembering the poor in so many ways. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:23 | |
To start with, if you'd like to put your hands together | 0:25:23 | 0:25:25 | |
for Gavin Kibble and Kelly, who's going to share his story. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
We thought it would be really good | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
if you met a lady that come through the food bank | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
a few weeks ago, and you heard from her | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
how she came to be in place where she needed to be touched by the love of... | 0:25:38 | 0:25:43 | |
so many Christians. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
Tell us a little bit about that moment when you realised | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
you needed some outside help, how you went about getting it, | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
and what your experience was. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
I woke up in the morning. I was panicking. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
My eldest son was coming home from school, expecting a dinner. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
There wasn't anything, at this point. | 0:25:57 | 0:25:59 | |
I then had to ring Social Services, | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
and they told me about Foodbank | 0:26:02 | 0:26:03 | |
and got me a voucher and got me sorted out. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:07 | |
Kelly's situation is not unusual. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
It is amazing to see the church of God rise up in the city of Coventry... | 0:26:10 | 0:26:15 | |
and demonstrate that God really does love everybody in that city. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:20 | |
'I don't know if God loves the people of Coventry, | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
'but gambling and loan companies certainly do. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:31 | |
'Within an area of 100 meters in the town centre, | 0:26:31 | 0:26:35 | |
'there are ten betting shops and five high-interest moneylenders. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:40 | |
'Charlotte is on her way to one of these. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
'She's still got no income at all, | 0:26:42 | 0:26:44 | |
'and her boyfriend's benefits have been temporarily suspended. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:48 | |
'She's had to hock her college laptop for £25 to pay living expenses. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:54 | |
'To get it back, she has to pay £32.50 within three weeks. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
'She's basically taken a loan with a 480% interest rate.' | 0:26:59 | 0:27:04 | |
The emergency electric had gone. We were sitting in the dark. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:09 | |
If I had left it, we wouldn't have had anything to wash in... | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
no light, or nothing. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:13 | |
No heat, no light, no food - nothing. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
So I had to go and put it in, and all my college work is on there, | 0:27:16 | 0:27:20 | |
all my pictures, all my baby pictures. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
The only ones I've got are on there. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
What did you do with the £25? | 0:27:25 | 0:27:27 | |
Went and put £10 on my electric. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
I put £5 on gas, to take it off emergency. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:34 | |
And I spend £10 on food... | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
which got me through about... a week. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
And how long would you have had to pay up? | 0:27:40 | 0:27:45 | |
I have three weeks, but in three weeks I know there's no money. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
I don't know where my next meal is coming from, never mind... | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
..actual cash in my hand. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
£32.50 is a LOT of money, a lot. | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
'To me, £32.50 doesn't really feel like that much money. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:06 | |
'So I've given her the cash to get her laptop back.' | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
-Laptop? -Yes, please. Thank you very much. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
That's 32.50, yeah? | 0:28:14 | 0:28:15 | |
Thank you. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
'Sandra is at the Hope Centre with her husband, Kelvin. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:24 | |
'There's been a delay reinstating the family's benefits, | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
'and their debts are mounting. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:29 | |
'I'm struck by how different Sandra appears from the first time I filmed her. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:33 | |
'To me, they both look as though they're in real distress.' | 0:28:33 | 0:28:37 | |
Are you getting your benefits now? | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
We're starting to work it out with Housing Benefits. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:44 | |
We're looking for a job now, me and Kelvin. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
We've just had enough. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:48 | |
'A meeting's been called with the family's social care | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
'team and the children's teachers. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
'The first point for discussion is the effect on their eldest son's' school life. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:58 | |
I don't know if this is a front he is putting up... | 0:28:58 | 0:29:03 | |
-but he didn't want to let anybody in. Does that make sense? -Yes. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:08 | |
He's quite embarrassed. Being 13 years old, it's not easy. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
Carl packed the lunch. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
I'm sure nobody else knows this, because he done a very good job, | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
but bread and water, that's it. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:19 | |
He made sure nobody else could see that, | 0:29:19 | 0:29:23 | |
but you could see in his face. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:25 | |
It's not nice. You sit with your mates and you have just bread and water. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:29 | |
We couldn't afford anything else. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:30 | |
And he got so happy when he got his free school meal. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
Oh, God, he was really delighted. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:37 | |
'Apart from the struggle for food, | 0:29:37 | 0:29:39 | |
'the family are still in serious debt to their landlord.' | 0:29:39 | 0:29:43 | |
In the last meeting, we talked about, | 0:29:43 | 0:29:45 | |
can you afford in the long term, | 0:29:45 | 0:29:47 | |
for twelve months, | 0:29:47 | 0:29:48 | |
to stay in the property? | 0:29:48 | 0:29:49 | |
Have you come to any conclusion of where you want to go | 0:29:49 | 0:29:53 | |
and what you want to do? | 0:29:53 | 0:29:54 | |
Yeah. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:56 | |
Basically, me and Kelvin came to the conclusion | 0:29:56 | 0:30:00 | |
-we cannot afford to pay. -OK. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
And...the solution is, be...homeless. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:08 | |
OK. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
Register as homeless and see how it goes. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
If you made yourself homeless, | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
they may not offer you a house straightaway, they may offer you bed and breakfast, | 0:30:14 | 0:30:18 | |
-or something like that. -Yep. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:19 | |
Which means you could be in there for a good few months | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
before they find you a place. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:24 | |
SHE SOBS | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
We just can't take it any more. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:34 | |
Just can't take it any more. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
I'm in that situation, not because I am lazy. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:41 | |
I want to work, | 0:30:41 | 0:30:42 | |
and I lost everything to choose to go into work. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:46 | |
But sometimes you think you make the right decision, | 0:30:47 | 0:30:51 | |
but you make the wrong decision. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
Being lazy would help my situation. Being working, it doesn't. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:58 | |
'Caroline, the younger Children's Welfare Officer, | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
'is the person who's been issuing the family's food vouchers. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
'But on Sandra's last visit, | 0:31:04 | 0:31:06 | |
'she was challenged by Gavin about her repeated use of the service.' | 0:31:06 | 0:31:12 | |
Caroline, with all the respect, I do appreciate your help, | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
but after last week, when we came here, we made the decision, | 0:31:15 | 0:31:20 | |
no way I want anything to do with the food bank. No way. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
Because that is not the way to treat people. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
Three vouchers, in reality, that is enough...? It's not. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:32 | |
In their defence, they're all volunteers. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:34 | |
They're not professional people. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:36 | |
It's no excuse, because I'm a volunteer where I'm working, | 0:31:36 | 0:31:40 | |
and I don't get paid not one penny, | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
but I'm doing my job. I'm stressed, I cry every day. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
I can't even stand on my legs sometimes when I'm hungry, | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
but I go there and I am professional. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
I am. I don't treat anyone badly. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:57 | |
Something went wrong in terms of Sandra's experience | 0:31:57 | 0:32:01 | |
with Foodbank, didn't it? | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
Yes, and I'm still trying to get to the bottom of exactly what that experience was. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:08 | |
From what I can gather, coming here is a very difficult thing | 0:32:08 | 0:32:14 | |
for her to do and, given that, the mere fact her entitlement | 0:32:14 | 0:32:18 | |
was questioned was enough to sort of push her over the edge. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:22 | |
Yeah, and that's the same impression that I get. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
At the end of the day, we have to avoid abuse. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
If you're at seven or eight referrals, that's our duty to challenge it. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
It really is unfortunate | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
that somebody's pride and dignity is offended by that. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:39 | |
I feel I have a duty to everybody who contributes food into the food bank | 0:32:39 | 0:32:43 | |
to be sure we're feeding the right people. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:47 | |
'Darren is on his way to Foodbank for a second time, | 0:32:55 | 0:32:59 | |
'a week after he was first here. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:00 | |
'Gavin knows he's coming and is bending the rules to save | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
'Darren the trouble of returning to the Jobcentre for a voucher.' | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
-Hello, nice to see you. -It's good to see you. -How's things? | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
Well, better for me than for you, I think. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:15 | |
-Thank you for that. -That's all right. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
'Tomorrow is Darren's youngest son's birthday.' | 0:33:18 | 0:33:23 | |
-Gavin's seven tomorrow, isn't he? -Yeah, that's right. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:27 | |
'A birthday cake has been put aside from today's delivery of fresh food.' | 0:33:27 | 0:33:32 | |
-Here's your gateau... -Thank you. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:34 | |
..for your son's birthday. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
Good day to get food, today. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
Good day for a slab of chocolate gateau. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
Have you got enough birthday candles? | 0:33:43 | 0:33:47 | |
Yeah, last year's - just add one to it. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
'Darren's quickly getting familiar with the system.' | 0:33:50 | 0:33:54 | |
What's that? Oh! | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
'And today, he's taking home close to £100-worth of food. | 0:33:56 | 0:34:01 | |
'Gavin offers to give Darren a lift home with the shopping.' | 0:34:01 | 0:34:06 | |
Thanks ever so much. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:08 | |
'For Charlotte, there's been a dramatic change in circumstances. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:17 | |
'Originally from London, | 0:34:17 | 0:34:19 | |
'she was moved to Coventry by Social Services, | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
'but they then lost contact with her. She's back in touch now, | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
'and because they have a responsibility toward her | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
'until she's 24, she's now getting regular hardship payments, | 0:34:28 | 0:34:32 | |
'and can go shopping.' | 0:34:32 | 0:34:34 | |
I don't get none of my veg from here. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
Because Foleshill Road do them really cheap, like 10p an onion and stuff. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:41 | |
'But she's living on what must be the bare minimum.' | 0:34:43 | 0:34:47 | |
So how much have you got to spend now? | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
Well, I've got £20, but meats in a bag, like sausages, | 0:34:50 | 0:34:54 | |
I normally get from Iceland cos they're cheap and cheerful. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:59 | |
£20 will last you how long? | 0:34:59 | 0:35:03 | |
A week, easily. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:05 | |
Back then, I could never afford anything like that. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:09 | |
-Even now, you couldn't afford that. Couldn't afford a chicken. -No! | 0:35:09 | 0:35:13 | |
'Now you do have money for food,' | 0:35:14 | 0:35:16 | |
-do you see that you were starving for the past three months? -Yeah. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:20 | |
That's the way you see it, is it? | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
Yeah. Badly, as well. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:25 | |
I was living off one meal a day, if that. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:29 | |
The worst thing is the first two weeks that you go hungry, | 0:35:30 | 0:35:34 | |
cos you're used to eating normally, | 0:35:34 | 0:35:36 | |
you wake up and your body's like, "Food!" and you're not eating. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:40 | |
By the time it gets round to dinner, it sounds stupid, | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
you're that hungry, you're not hungry. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
It almost becomes a game. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
You get wrapped up in this sick little game where you think, | 0:35:50 | 0:35:55 | |
"If I can stop eating for this amount of time, | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
"then I'll have this amount of food for the next day." | 0:35:58 | 0:36:03 | |
How much did that lot cost you? | 0:36:03 | 0:36:05 | |
It come to... | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
£6.89. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:11 | |
That's quite expensive, still. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:13 | |
I know to other people that don't sound expensive for all the stuff I got, £6.89. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
I've got to get toilet roll, shower gel... | 0:36:16 | 0:36:19 | |
They're always left till last. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
OK. Cos they're less essential? | 0:36:22 | 0:36:24 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:36:24 | 0:36:26 | |
I seem to survive on very little knowledge. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
There were so many things I got confused about | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
-because no-one has taught me. -Sure. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:36 | |
Ah! | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:36:39 | 0:36:40 | |
She was gorgeous! | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
'For somebody who's grown up in care, | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
'Charlotte seems to have a determination to better herself, | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
'despite never having a proper family to learn from.' | 0:36:50 | 0:36:55 | |
She's lovely! | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
-That's not beetroot! -It is. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
Beetroot's red! | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
It will be red, if you clean the mud off it. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
Oh. Wow! Really? | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
I worked out I didn't like avocado from Foodbank. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:13 | |
That's that green thing, isn't it? I didn't like that. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
'Charlotte may now be able to buy food, | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
'but what she's been through in the last months | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
'is just a continuation of what she's endured throughout her life, | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
'and things have finally got too much for her.' | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
I was passed from foster carer to foster carer | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
with a black bin liner full of my stuff and told to get on with it. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
They say, "Here's the shower, here's the kitchen, here's your bedroom, off you go." | 0:37:36 | 0:37:41 | |
You don't even want to come out of the bedroom, you don't even want to use the shower. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:44 | |
I think all that's catching up on me. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:48 | |
I went to the doctor's to get temazepam to sleep, cos that's the main thing. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:53 | |
I can't sleep, even with the temazepam. It's doing my head in. I'm knackered all the time. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:58 | |
-I think I'm having breakdown. -Do you? | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
Yeah. I'm not like this. I'm not self-pitying, normally, either. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:06 | |
Sounds silly and selfish. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:08 | |
I feel really sorry for myself. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:10 | |
I think it's cos of everything I have been through the last couple of months, | 0:38:10 | 0:38:14 | |
cos I've struggled so much, my body and my brain's just gone, | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
"Right, enough!" | 0:38:17 | 0:38:19 | |
I think I shut away that much, | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
everything has just... | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
reared its head at the same time. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:27 | |
We have shed-loads of blueberry muffins. I have 2,000, | 0:38:27 | 0:38:31 | |
so do not be afraid to give them away. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
'I'm at Foodbank two weeks later, | 0:38:34 | 0:38:36 | |
'and Charlotte's boyfriend has phoned Gavin, | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
'desperate for some spare food.' | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
-That's for Charlotte over there. -OK, Charlotte. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:45 | |
'To find out what's gone wrong, I offer to take it round to them.' | 0:38:45 | 0:38:49 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:38:49 | 0:38:51 | |
-Hello? -Ash, hi, it's David. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:57 | |
You all right, David? | 0:38:57 | 0:38:59 | |
Yeah, I'm sitting outside your block with Charlotte's food in my boot. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:04 | |
-I'll run down. -All right, see you in a sec. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:08 | |
See you in a sec. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
'Charlotte is seriously distressed and doesn't want to do any filming. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:16 | |
'It's another week before she agrees to talk to me on camera.' | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
You weren't in a very good way when I came last week, were you? | 0:39:19 | 0:39:25 | |
No, not at all. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
I didn't even want to accept help, to be honest. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
My appetite had got back to normal | 0:39:30 | 0:39:32 | |
and I started feeling a bit healthier, | 0:39:32 | 0:39:34 | |
which meant when we were plunged back | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
into struggling, I was starving hungry again, like, ridiculously. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:40 | |
Had nothing. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
It's the worst feeling, knowing your belly's rumbling | 0:39:42 | 0:39:44 | |
and you can't do anything about it and you feel sick. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
It's awful. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:48 | |
My cupboard has...not a lot. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
'Despite the payments from Social Services, Charlotte's still living below the breadline.' | 0:39:51 | 0:39:56 | |
So what are you and Ash going to eat tonight? | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
Erm...I'm not sure at the moment. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
I don't think I've got any food. I haven't got any food in the freezer... | 0:40:04 | 0:40:08 | |
at all. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:09 | |
That's properly empty. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:11 | |
I don't think I've got anything in there. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:14 | |
Oh, I have two onions! | 0:40:14 | 0:40:16 | |
A bit of jam... | 0:40:18 | 0:40:19 | |
..tiny bit of milk...and that's it. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:25 | |
'The cause of her renewed hunger appears to stem | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
'from a loan taken out some months ago. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
'When her boyfriend had a part-time job, | 0:40:31 | 0:40:33 | |
'they borrowed £125 from The Money Shop but were unable to repay and the debt has doubled.' | 0:40:33 | 0:40:39 | |
When he lost his job, disaster struck. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:44 | |
We had no money to pay them at all. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:46 | |
That meant they try and take money off you every single day | 0:40:46 | 0:40:52 | |
until you finally get money in your bank. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:54 | |
Two benefit monies, he's had. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:57 | |
All of them have gone. | 0:40:57 | 0:40:59 | |
So they're given completely free access to your bank account? | 0:40:59 | 0:41:02 | |
They can do what they want, when they want, how they want. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
They can take as much as they want, whenever they want. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:08 | |
I get for other people they think, "Why do you keep doing this? | 0:41:08 | 0:41:12 | |
"Why can't you figure out something else?" | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
But when you're in this position, | 0:41:15 | 0:41:17 | |
you exhaust every other option, | 0:41:17 | 0:41:20 | |
so you're left with no choice. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
What do you do? Do you sit with nothing? | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
It don't feel like you live, it feels like you just survive. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:29 | |
'The Money Shop have since told me they've frozen the debt. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:34 | |
'Kelly's life's seems to be entering a more settled phase. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:45 | |
'The father of her youngest child is living with them now | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
'and she's beginning to get back on her feet.' | 0:41:48 | 0:41:51 | |
It was only those few days where everything was a mess. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:57 | |
Back to normal now. The mortgage, that's the only worry now. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:04 | |
'With levels of personal debt at an all-time high, | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
'many of us live closer to the breadline than we like to think. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:16 | |
'We're encouraged to spend, not to save... | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
'so when things go wrong, it's too easy to be tipped into poverty.' | 0:42:19 | 0:42:24 | |
Go and lie down. Cess, that means you. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:28 | |
Move, now! | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
'Within a matter of days, a volunteer is delivering another food parcel.' | 0:42:30 | 0:42:35 | |
Thanks very much. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
'Like Charlotte, Kelly is paying a high price for easy money.' | 0:42:38 | 0:42:42 | |
Why did you need another food parcel? | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
The money that went in for Tax Credits got taken up | 0:42:45 | 0:42:51 | |
with other bills before it hit the account. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:55 | |
When you say "other bills", what does that mean? | 0:42:55 | 0:43:00 | |
Just some loans. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:03 | |
-And these would be high-interest loans? -Yeah. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:07 | |
I didn't know how much they were taking, but every time | 0:43:07 | 0:43:11 | |
I went to the get my money over the last two weeks, it was gone. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:14 | |
I told them I was out of work and could we arrange something? | 0:43:14 | 0:43:17 | |
-But they still kept taking it. -Right. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:21 | |
Apparently, that's what the agreement says. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:23 | |
They can take... | 0:43:23 | 0:43:25 | |
As much as they wanted, whenever they wanted. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:28 | |
-OK. Even though it leaves you in a position where you can't buy food? -Yes. Yeah. | 0:43:28 | 0:43:33 | |
What's that on your face? | 0:43:33 | 0:43:36 | |
Right, can I get you sign this, please? | 0:43:36 | 0:43:38 | |
'Darren appears to have become a regular at Foodbank... | 0:43:38 | 0:43:42 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:43:42 | 0:43:44 | |
'..and gets his food without the need for a voucher.' | 0:43:44 | 0:43:49 | |
Lovely. Thank you. Cheers, mate. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:52 | |
Is that everything, Jordan? | 0:43:54 | 0:43:57 | |
'He arrives early because lately, the fresh food | 0:43:57 | 0:44:00 | |
'has been running out before the end of the day.' | 0:44:00 | 0:44:03 | |
I think they knew you were coming | 0:44:03 | 0:44:05 | |
and thought, "Let's give him all the cakes!" | 0:44:05 | 0:44:08 | |
Your shelves are almost empty, Tony. | 0:44:08 | 0:44:10 | |
Absolutely, devastated. | 0:44:10 | 0:44:13 | |
We haven't been this busy since we started a year ago. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:17 | |
This time last year. | 0:44:17 | 0:44:19 | |
It's all I've got. | 0:44:19 | 0:44:20 | |
Not today, sorry. | 0:44:22 | 0:44:26 | |
How do you feel when you run out of food like this? | 0:44:26 | 0:44:30 | |
When I've run out on a good day and fed everybody, it's great. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:34 | |
On days like this when you've run out of food and there's people out there that need food, | 0:44:34 | 0:44:39 | |
it cuts me up to the gut. | 0:44:39 | 0:44:42 | |
This shouldn't be happening. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:44 | |
I feel we've got to do something more, but I don't know what. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:47 | |
'They're having a party of sorts at the Hope Centre.' | 0:44:51 | 0:44:55 | |
Hello, how are you doing? | 0:44:55 | 0:44:57 | |
'Since they opened 18 months ago, they've issued 10,000 food parcels, | 0:44:57 | 0:45:03 | |
'and today the Lord Mayor is coming to mark the occasion.' | 0:45:03 | 0:45:05 | |
I'm Gavin Kibble, I'm the operations director. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:09 | |
Nice to meet you. Thank you so much for coming. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:11 | |
'The symbolic 10,000th client, chosen to receive the food parcel, | 0:45:11 | 0:45:14 | |
'is Darren.' | 0:45:14 | 0:45:16 | |
This is symbolically, cos we've gone over 10,000. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:20 | |
We are feeding the 10,000th person by Coventry Foodbank | 0:45:20 | 0:45:24 | |
since it started, 18 months ago. | 0:45:24 | 0:45:27 | |
So, Lord Mayor, If you'd like to feed Darren...? | 0:45:27 | 0:45:30 | |
We're not going to force-feed you, | 0:45:30 | 0:45:32 | |
we're just going to give you some food. | 0:45:32 | 0:45:34 | |
-I wish I wasn't handing this to you. -So do I, but you are, so thank you very much. | 0:45:34 | 0:45:38 | |
Can you give a round of applause? Well done! | 0:45:38 | 0:45:41 | |
'But I'm beginning to have my doubts about Darren. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:44 | |
'He's been doing radio interviews today in the run up to the event | 0:45:44 | 0:45:47 | |
'and he's giving a completely different account of the cause of his benefit delay.' | 0:45:47 | 0:45:52 | |
D'you want me to sign the bottom? | 0:45:52 | 0:45:54 | |
'He's behaving with a sense of entitlement | 0:45:54 | 0:45:56 | |
'I've not seen in any of the other clients.' | 0:45:56 | 0:45:58 | |
If you see Gavin, he sends me down, so it's fine. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:02 | |
Could I swap that for something? That's much better. | 0:46:02 | 0:46:06 | |
What about that watermelon, are you doing anything with that? | 0:46:06 | 0:46:09 | |
'He's now driving a courier van | 0:46:09 | 0:46:11 | |
'and despite claiming Job Seeker's Allowance, he's doing delivery jobs, | 0:46:11 | 0:46:15 | |
'which he's not declaring, so he's committing benefit fraud.' | 0:46:15 | 0:46:18 | |
Got work Thursday, Friday, just doing some multi-drop driving. | 0:46:18 | 0:46:22 | |
Couple of days' work for money that I wouldn't have, you know? | 0:46:22 | 0:46:25 | |
-Right. -Ben, can you come here so I can test you on this? | 0:46:25 | 0:46:31 | |
'On his way to Foodbank on one occasion, | 0:46:31 | 0:46:34 | |
'he stopped to buy Ben a new scooter. | 0:46:34 | 0:46:39 | |
'And he's only client I've come across who's stopped on the way home | 0:46:39 | 0:46:43 | |
'to buy Parma ham from the supermarket.' | 0:46:43 | 0:46:46 | |
I take it the Parma ham didn't come from the food bank? | 0:46:46 | 0:46:48 | |
No, but I have had nice salami from there before. | 0:46:48 | 0:46:52 | |
'And today, he's telling everyone he's about to start a new managerial job.' | 0:46:52 | 0:46:57 | |
Got any job interviews lined up? | 0:46:57 | 0:46:59 | |
I've got a job starting on the 23rd, which is really good. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:02 | |
-Really?! -It's working for Parcelforce. | 0:47:02 | 0:47:05 | |
Decent money, company vehicle, | 0:47:07 | 0:47:09 | |
management role, so back into what I'm used to. | 0:47:09 | 0:47:12 | |
'But Parcelforce tell me they've never heard of him. | 0:47:12 | 0:47:18 | |
'Gavin, though, remains convinced about Darren's need.' | 0:47:18 | 0:47:23 | |
He's a very genuine guy. | 0:47:23 | 0:47:25 | |
It was a pleasure to work with him, you know, and, erm... | 0:47:25 | 0:47:29 | |
I'm really pleased with the outcome of that one. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:31 | |
It's a good news story for him and for the food bank, as well. | 0:47:31 | 0:47:36 | |
We have a set of procedures | 0:47:37 | 0:47:40 | |
and practices to protect the food bank from abuse. | 0:47:40 | 0:47:43 | |
If we feel the need is genuine, | 0:47:43 | 0:47:45 | |
we don't play to the system, | 0:47:45 | 0:47:47 | |
we play to the need that we see. | 0:47:47 | 0:47:50 | |
If he'd been really clever, he could have pulled the wool over our eyes. | 0:47:50 | 0:47:54 | |
But I really don't think that was Darren... | 0:47:54 | 0:47:59 | |
at all. | 0:47:59 | 0:48:00 | |
'But it seems that little Darren has told any of us has been true.' | 0:48:01 | 0:48:06 | |
Milk and bread. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:08 | |
'The first time I'd filmed him, I'd lent him some money | 0:48:08 | 0:48:10 | |
'for his son's birthday. | 0:48:10 | 0:48:12 | |
'A check with the Coventry registrar | 0:48:12 | 0:48:14 | |
'reveals that it wasn't Ben's birthday at all - that was two months earlier. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:20 | |
'The Benefits Agency tell me Darren was in full-time employment | 0:48:20 | 0:48:24 | |
'as a courier until the day before he first arrived at Foodbank... | 0:48:24 | 0:48:27 | |
'and his benefits were paid a week later, meaning there never was a delay at all.' | 0:48:27 | 0:48:33 | |
-Is that all yours, mate, yeah? -Yeah, it is. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:36 | |
They give you all that? | 0:48:36 | 0:48:38 | |
He's got a large family. | 0:48:38 | 0:48:40 | |
Ah! | 0:48:40 | 0:48:41 | |
'A serial debtor with a string of County Court judgments against him, | 0:48:44 | 0:48:48 | |
'I think Darren targeted the food bank and did very well, | 0:48:48 | 0:48:51 | |
'because the system was easy to manipulate. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:55 | |
When I catch up with him, he's started a new job... | 0:48:56 | 0:49:00 | |
'but it's not as a manager for Parcelforce.' | 0:49:00 | 0:49:05 | |
What's the job you're doing now? | 0:49:05 | 0:49:07 | |
It's... driving, delivering to people, | 0:49:07 | 0:49:11 | |
so it's on the opposite side. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:13 | |
But, to be honest, it's going to tide me over | 0:49:13 | 0:49:16 | |
until I'm in a better position to put my suit back on again. | 0:49:16 | 0:49:20 | |
Looking back over what I filmed with you over the weeks, | 0:49:20 | 0:49:23 | |
one of the most obviously painful things was Ben's birthday. | 0:49:23 | 0:49:28 | |
Was it his birthday that weekend? | 0:49:29 | 0:49:31 | |
Yep. He got his trampoline, it's down his nanny's, if you go and have a look. | 0:49:31 | 0:49:34 | |
Do you want to go and bounce on it? THEY LAUGH | 0:49:34 | 0:49:37 | |
-It wasn't actually his birthday that weekend, was it? -What? | 0:49:37 | 0:49:40 | |
It wasn't Ben's birthday that weekend, was it? | 0:49:40 | 0:49:43 | |
All right, a couple of weekends before, but it was us | 0:49:43 | 0:49:46 | |
making it up to him, basically. | 0:49:46 | 0:49:48 | |
His birthday was way before that. | 0:49:48 | 0:49:50 | |
It was, but do you know what it was? It was an emotional factor that we had planned a party for him... | 0:49:50 | 0:49:54 | |
Hang on, Darren, his birthday was in the beginning of May. | 0:49:54 | 0:49:57 | |
May...but we planned a party for Ben. | 0:49:57 | 0:49:59 | |
We couldn't afford anything at the time... | 0:49:59 | 0:50:02 | |
Hang on, you couldn't afford anything in May?! | 0:50:02 | 0:50:04 | |
-Not really... -But you were in full-time employment in May. | 0:50:04 | 0:50:07 | |
I was, but we were starting to struggle at the time. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:11 | |
According to the Benefits Agency, | 0:50:11 | 0:50:13 | |
you were a van driver on the 5th of May. | 0:50:13 | 0:50:16 | |
I wasn't. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:18 | |
According to them, you've been on and off the benefits system for some time. | 0:50:18 | 0:50:21 | |
I haven't been on and off it for some time. | 0:50:21 | 0:50:24 | |
-And you've got a history of debting and petty offences. -I have, yeah. | 0:50:24 | 0:50:27 | |
And I think you heard about food banks and you targeted them | 0:50:27 | 0:50:32 | |
for a bit of free shopping. | 0:50:32 | 0:50:33 | |
That wasn't the case, Dave. | 0:50:33 | 0:50:36 | |
I did get a fair bit of food, yeah... | 0:50:36 | 0:50:39 | |
You got a month's worth of shopping out of the food bank and that's worth about £500? | 0:50:39 | 0:50:44 | |
I don't know. From the stuff they gave me, I couldn't tell you, Dave. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:47 | |
I don't know, mate. | 0:50:47 | 0:50:49 | |
Me, man. You, woman. Here, we've got two. | 0:50:49 | 0:50:52 | |
Two people. | 0:50:52 | 0:50:54 | |
You, one. Who's the other? | 0:50:54 | 0:50:56 | |
'At the Hope Centre, Gavin is scrutinising people's vouchers.' | 0:50:56 | 0:51:01 | |
I've got two support workers who have turned up without any form of identification. | 0:51:04 | 0:51:10 | |
That's fine. I just needed to be sure. Bye! | 0:51:10 | 0:51:14 | |
You have been accurately described! | 0:51:14 | 0:51:16 | |
'I was struck by the ease with which Darren had abused the system.' | 0:51:16 | 0:51:21 | |
I actually think we have, for the voluntary sector, | 0:51:21 | 0:51:24 | |
a very tight level of control. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:27 | |
And we need that because we need to honour every single tin | 0:51:27 | 0:51:30 | |
that's been donated to us by the general public. | 0:51:30 | 0:51:33 | |
That we have a good idea that the food is going to somebody who actually needs it. | 0:51:33 | 0:51:38 | |
Somebody like Darren, for example... | 0:51:38 | 0:51:40 | |
you gave him vouchers when he needed them? | 0:51:40 | 0:51:44 | |
Yes, very specific example of somebody we got to know very well | 0:51:44 | 0:51:48 | |
and understood the circumstances. | 0:51:48 | 0:51:51 | |
Do you think you were equipped to assess his need properly? | 0:51:51 | 0:51:55 | |
-Yes, I think so. -And do you think you assessed his need properly? | 0:51:55 | 0:51:58 | |
Yes. | 0:51:58 | 0:52:00 | |
-Darren was a conman. -Serious? | 0:52:00 | 0:52:03 | |
Darren as a conman. Nothing he told you was true. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:06 | |
He got you into a position where you were giving him vouchers on demand | 0:52:06 | 0:52:09 | |
and he took you for everything he could. | 0:52:09 | 0:52:11 | |
This is being recorded? | 0:52:11 | 0:52:13 | |
This is being recorded, yeah. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:14 | |
Then I need to reassess what we're doing. | 0:52:18 | 0:52:21 | |
I'm absolutely shocked by that, cos... | 0:52:21 | 0:52:24 | |
I felt we were a good judge of people. | 0:52:24 | 0:52:27 | |
So I'm just... | 0:52:27 | 0:52:29 | |
HE SIGHS | 0:52:29 | 0:52:30 | |
The stories of everyone I've met are more complex than they first appear. | 0:52:37 | 0:52:41 | |
And the system IS too easily abused. | 0:52:42 | 0:52:45 | |
But food banks have identified, and are trying to meet, a real social need, | 0:52:48 | 0:52:53 | |
and for every opportunist, | 0:52:53 | 0:52:55 | |
there are many more in genuine crisis, with nowhere else to turn. | 0:52:55 | 0:52:59 | |
You all right, Jayden? You going to have a Mr Kipling cake? Yeah. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:05 | |
'You don't have to be at Foodbank long to meet people | 0:53:06 | 0:53:09 | |
'like Aaron and Zoe. | 0:53:09 | 0:53:11 | |
'Aaron's been in and out of low-paid work | 0:53:11 | 0:53:14 | |
'and the couple are struggling with rent arrears.' | 0:53:14 | 0:53:17 | |
Is that nice? | 0:53:17 | 0:53:19 | |
Your weekly food budget is how much? | 0:53:20 | 0:53:23 | |
About £40, so this is a big help. | 0:53:23 | 0:53:27 | |
For a family of four, you need at least £90. | 0:53:27 | 0:53:30 | |
So how have you been managing | 0:53:30 | 0:53:32 | |
when you've not been going to the food bank? | 0:53:32 | 0:53:34 | |
Just not eating. We just eat one meal a day, | 0:53:34 | 0:53:37 | |
whereas the kids get full breakfast, lunch, dinner and pudding. | 0:53:37 | 0:53:41 | |
I won't eat until about 10 o'clock, so it lasts longer. | 0:53:41 | 0:53:46 | |
So you wake up and you're not hungry, and you can last the next day and until night time, then. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:50 | |
We've got to think about the kids before ourselves. | 0:53:50 | 0:53:54 | |
You don't have a go at that, do you? | 0:53:54 | 0:53:57 | |
You love your food. | 0:53:57 | 0:54:00 | |
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