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Hunger is back in the UK.

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The cupboards are empty.

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The worst thing is the first two weeks that you go hungry

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because you're so used to eating normally

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that you wake up and your body's, like, "Right, food."

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And you're not eating.

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For the first time since the establishment of the welfare state,

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large numbers of ordinary people are turning to charity

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to provide food for themselves and their families.

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Sometimes people just give you a dirty look and say,

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"What are you doing here?"

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"Look at yourself, look at the way you dress.

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"Do you really need that food?"

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I've spent six months in one Britain's busiest food banks,

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meeting the people who've arrived at a place of last resort.

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From what I can see, you would have less than £100 for electricity,

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gas and food per month. You're definitely below the breadline.

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We just eat one meal a day.

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I won't eat till about ten o'clock so it lasts longer.

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So overnight, you wake up and you're not hungry

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and you can last the next day.

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We've got kids and we've got to think about the kids before ourselves.

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The Hope Centre is one of 11

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emergency food distribution centres in Coventry alone.

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-Do you want to give them two packs of bacon?

-Yeah. That's nice.

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Run by a Christian charity, food banks provide three days' food

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to people in financial crisis.

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There are now nearly 300 around the country

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and new ones are opening at the rate of two a week.

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Chuck these ones in there. That's the tomatoes done.

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-You've done the cereal.

-Yeah.

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We need the soup. Soup, soup.

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Charlotte is a volunteer at the Hope Centre.

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-You all right, Tone?

-Yeah.

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There's going to be two adults, two kids.

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Cool.

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Shall I hands you tins, biggest ones first, yeah?

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She has been a client here and is struggling to avoid going hungry.

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When did you last have three meals a day?

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Possibly Christmas.

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-Right. So three months ago.

-Yeah.

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Obviously, I get the odd day where I'll eat something,

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but on the whole, just dinner, really.

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After a while, you learn to just kind of deal with it

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and pull your energy from somewhere way within.

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So now I'm just...

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I think I constantly buzz off adrenaline or something.

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I don't know what it is. But it's not food.

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Brought up in care, Charlotte's a full-time student at sixth-form college

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and has fallen through a hole in the benefits system.

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You sign that one for me.

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Because I'm in full-time education

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with no children at the age of 21,

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there's nothing for me. There's nothing.

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I can't have Housing Benefit,

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Income Support, Job Seeker's Allowance.

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What did they say at the Jobcentre? You must've said, "I can't eat."

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Um, telling me that they're really, really sorry

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that they can't do anything.

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And then it got worse and worse during the conversation to a point where she said,

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"The only thing I can suggest is why don't you just have a child?

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"Then you'd be able to sign on for benefits, if you want to do college."

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So hang on, so somebody in the benefits agency

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suggested your solution was to have a child at the age of 21?

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Yes. At the age of 21.

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Bearing in mind, I'm not mature for a 21-year-old.

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I've been in care. I haven't grown up yet.

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I ended up coming to the food bank.

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The first time was awful.

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You feel so embarrassed.

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You don't even want to pull the food voucher out.

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I was worried about walking home with bags saying "food bank",

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because I was scared that everyone would know as I walked home

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that I'd had to go somewhere for food.

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But they give you just normal bags.

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So when I walked home, it was all right.

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'Unlike other food banks around the country

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'that only hand out non-perishables, Coventry receives a supply

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'of fresh food, donated by a wholesale supermarket chain.

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'Food close to its sell-by date is given to charities

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'rather than thrown away.

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'It makes a valuable contribution to the standard food parcels.'

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So, is that looking like a decent amount of fresh food today?

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Today, yeah.

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Bit more variety than we've had the last couple of weeks.

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Bananas, we haven't had for ages.

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Weak muscles, tiny arms.

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'This food has to be distributed on the day it arrives.

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'That means Charlotte gets to take home

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'some of the leftovers at the end of the day.'

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So, what have you got today?

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I've got...bagels,

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mince,

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apple pie,

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vegetable pie,

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oranges,

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potato salad and bread...

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..which will last me about four days, easily.

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'Today's last client arrives as the centre is closing.

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'Kelly is a mother of two who's been sent here by Social Services

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'and has had to walk miles.

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'She tells me she hasn't eaten for two days.'

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-How old is he?

-Six months.

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Is he on solids yet?

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Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's greedy.

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'Until the birth of her youngest child, Kelly was a sales manager.

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'She's recently been on statutory maternity benefit,

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'but with a 15-year-old son,

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'it hasn't been enough to cover their living expenses,

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'and food has run out.'

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Yeah. So that's pretty desperate, isn't it?

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Yeah.

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Baked beans. A few vegetables.

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Yeah, there's bits of everything. Tuna.

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Jack? Come here, babe. Pop those in the freezer.

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Freezer. Ice cream!

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'And it's not just Kelly who's been going hungry.'

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Has Jack eaten all right in the last few days?

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No. Last couple of days, he hasn't at all.

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-What have you eaten today? Have you eaten at school?

-He hasn't yet.

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We can't get free school dinners until the Income Support is sorted.

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Which is why I have to come home now to make dinner for him straight from school.

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OK. So, is that why you were so desperate today?

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-Yeah. For him.

-Right.

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It's been hard. He's been eating, but obviously,

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not enough to what he should be eating or what he would want to eat.

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It's been constantly trying to figure out

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how to make what we did have stretch just that bit further,

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just to make enough so he wasn't hungry.

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But that ran out last night.

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The last meal was last night.

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This morning, I rang the Jobcentre,

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they told me to ring Social Services

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who spoke to me and told me to go to them

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to get the voucher for food bank.

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It's something that I never thought I'd see myself doing.

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I'm always the one that gives.

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-Every time a charity bag comes through, I always fill it up.

-Right.

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Um...I never thought I'd be on the other end of it.

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'With a low income, Kelly has struggled for years

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'to keep her head above water

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'and has now decided to leave the world of work altogether.'

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Financially, I can't afford to go back into work.

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Not only have I got to pay the mortgage, the council tax,

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the food, which is what you have to do, anyway,

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I've then got to find my childcare.

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Where I can stay at home, bring him up myself

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-and have more money in my hand.

-Right.

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So essentially now, you're going to live a life on benefits for while.

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Yeah. Do something that I always said I never wanted to do.

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Right.

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The rapid spread of the food bank network

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is due to the cooperation of the state sector.

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To get the free food parcels, clients must be referred here

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by social care agencies who assess their situation.

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If they're at the point of desperation,

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a red voucher is issued.

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-So this is good to go.

-OK.

-All right?

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-So you're feeding one adult and two children.

-OK.

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In theory, there's a limit of three vouchers per crisis

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to provide a stopgap.

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In reality, though, not all crises are short term,

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so sometimes, the rules are broken.

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Sandra is a married mother of five.

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Her vouchers are issued by her children's nursery

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and she's now relying on the food bank on a weekly basis.

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So essentially, this has become your regularly weekly shopping trip?

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Yes. Sometimes they have quite lot to give to us.

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-It will last, say, about four days, five.

-Right.

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-It depends what they have available at the end of the day.

-Sure.

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'She stops at food bank on her way home from part-time voluntary work.'

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'The picture you have from food bank

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'is people, they are poor, they are begging.

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'Seeing myself in that position is quite humiliating.'

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-I'll wait here.

-OK.

-Yeah? Thanks.

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When I come here, I stay here.

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Sometimes people just give you, like, a dirty look,

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say, "What are you doing here?"

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"Look at you, look at the way you dress.

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-"Do you really need that food?"

-OK.

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-So you think people are judging you?

-Yeah.

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-They didn't have biscuits, so I loaded it with chocolate.

-It's OK.

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If you tap on that door, you can grab your meat.

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-We've got you a big pack of mince.

-Thank you.

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'At this stage, I don't want to consider myself to be poor...

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'but I'm not far off.'

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Like, this week, I have £50 to live on, with the five children.

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That means I need to choose with the £50 between electricity,

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gas... food.

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Two years ago, we were settled.

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My husband was working.

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We bought a 50-inch TV, we bought a Mac.

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We have a nice house, and I'm proud.

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Are you going to be good?

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It was Sandra's refusal to live solely on welfare

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that caused a catastrophic situation.

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Her husband left work nearly three years ago

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to study for a career in youth justice.

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Sandra decided to take a part-time job in MacDonald's,

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not knowing it would halve her Housing Benefit.

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After I find the job, I was quite happy.

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When I rung the Revenue to say, "I'm working,"

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is when all the problems started,

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because it was one benefit after another, just stop, stop, stop.

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My salary, every two weeks, being £79,

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they was expecting me to pay the rest of the rent.

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-But your salary was tiny?

-Yes.

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OK. So what happened?

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Basically, we got in trouble. We got behind with the rent.

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All the four months I was working for McDonald's,

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all those months, we was behind with the rent.

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Did you end up in the situation because you chose to work?

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Yeah.

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You were managing OK before that with benefits and student loans and so on?

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Yes. I think if I stay in the benefit,

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I wouldn't be in so much debt now.

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I decided, "I've had enough. I want to go to work, I want to be able to contribute for the country."

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I think that probably was my big mistake.

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Look at that.

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If the food bank hadn't been there, what would you have done?

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I don't know. I don't think we would be here.

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I would have lost the house, I would have lost myself,

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because, at the end of the day, it's not easy. You see five children

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scrambling for food and you don't have owt to support them.

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I can't be crying.

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I can't be down. I can't be stressed and screaming and shouting.

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I can't, because, at the end of the day, I don't want my children

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to have that picture of me.

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And inside, I'm devastated.

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Irish stew, lovely.

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Most of the food given out by the food banks is non-perishable,

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and donated by the general public at supermarket collections.

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Thank you. Have a great weekend. Thank you.

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Gavin Kibble is Director of the whole Coventry network.

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A typical day at this ASDA will generate something between

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half a tonne and three-quarters of a tonne of food.

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Current rate?

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We're getting through just shy of a tonne a week at the moment.

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So, even if we get three-quarters of a tonne of food today,

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it probably only lasts about a week.

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I think we're going to run out of food.

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Demand has been growing steadily

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since the Coventry food bank started in spring last year.

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Several times since I've been here, the Hope Centre has run out of food.

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What a day.

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There's always enough food in the Coventry network,

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but not always in the right place at the right time.

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-Are you...Craig?

-Yes, I am.

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We haven't got enough to feed you today

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but there is another location open at this time,

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which is at the Jesus Centre, in Lamb Street.

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How do we know we're not going to go there and the same thing?

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I could give them a ring, cos we don't know the volumes on any particular day.

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Hi, there. Have you still got food stocks left?

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Good. We've been decimated.

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Absolutely wiped out.

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I'm going to put them in the car and bring them down.

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Today, instead of moving food around,

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clients are having to be moved to another distribution centre.

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We would hold, normally, about a quarter of a tonne of stock.

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It's just gone in the space of an hour and ten minutes.

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I can't put my finger on what has changed out there.

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And why that happens one week and doesn't happen another.

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But the point is, it kind of tells you that actually there is a need

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out there that needs to be met.

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Come on in.

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I've bought the overspill with me, to feed them.

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That's all I could get in the van.

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HE LAUGHS

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In the last year,

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this slightly ad-hoc charitable supply chain has ensured that

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around 170,000 people throughout the country have received emergency food.

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Hello. I'm very sorry to disturb you.

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From the food bank. Just asking for 10p or 20p to help families and children in crisis.

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Thank you very much.

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A-ha! Your mate just dropped you right in it.

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10p, 20p?

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That's just rude. This is to feed kids and families. Thanks.

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Charlotte is fundraising at Coventry City College.

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Excuse me, before you walk any further, would you like to help

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Coventry Foodbank just by 10p or 20p?

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Nah?

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Thank you, anyway.

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I get very slightly annoyed.

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It's like I have to stop myself.

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Looking around, do you think

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people are aware of the kind of hardships that some people have?

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No. I do this all the time.

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I watch people wherever I am. You can never really pick out the ones that are troubled.

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I reckon if you spotted me in a crowd, you wouldn't know I was someone who was struggling.

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Right.

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Do you feel jealous when you look at other people?

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Very much so.

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I would love to have a Blackberry phone like everyone else.

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And new clothes, like you see all the girls and their make-up and their clothes.

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That's a little bit upsetting.

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Sometimes I wish I had somewhere to go back to, as well, at night,

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with a family and that.

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The ones who look healthy and chubby and happy, they've got a family.

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What can you tell from looking at these girls?

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They're like they're really, really happy.

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They obviously ain't got anything else to worry about.

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They're probably just worried about what to wear in the morning.

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That's the least of my worries, that is.

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What do you get up and worry about?

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How to get electric on, because the electric meter's bleeping,

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or...when I'm going to eat.

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Look at them! I'd chop my arm off to have one of them!

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I'd chop my arm off, easy!

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Look how nice they look! Oh, what I would do!

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Look, and she's got a really nice rug. SHE LAUGHS

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It looks so grotty. Someone's even got their windows boarded up.

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This is my lovely front door(!)

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When we were back at the college, I asked you if I could buy you

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-a sandwich for lunch.

-Yeah.

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Explain to me why you said no.

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Because if I eat at lunch

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and keep eating, I'll get hungry tomorrow at lunch.

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But if I skip meals in the day,

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-I can go and just eat at night, just eat my dinner.

-Right.

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Do you know what I mean?

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You're not eating during the day...

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Yeah, cos it shrinks your belly, so you get less hungry. It oppresses your appetite.

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CHILD SINGS

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It's amazing how you can sing today. Go on, get your scooter.

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'Darren has just been to Foodbank, having been given a voucher by the Jobcentre.'

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It has been a godsend. They really have helped us.

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'Recently made redundant from a management position,

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'there's been a delay setting up his benefits.

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'He now finds himself battling an unfamiliar system.'

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I always used to be very critical of people

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that went to Jobcentres.

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Having experienced it myself, more and more, on a daily basis,

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I sympathise with a lot of them.

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I can see where a lot of their frustration comes from, I really can.

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I'd made my benefit claim six weeks ago, and they lost it.

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Everything had gone, completely. They admitted liability.

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It doesn't do a lot of your self-esteem.

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It makes you think you're not a human being, just another number.

0:18:510:18:54

'Darren's money has completely run out...

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'..but the benefits he's owed should be in his account today.

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'We're going to the cashpoint to find out.'

0:19:020:19:04

Right, here we go.

0:19:040:19:06

Shall we have a look?

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Are you nervous about this?

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Yeah, incredibly. Yeah, incredibly.

0:19:110:19:14

And there you have minus £19.22,

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which means everything they said they were going to do,

0:19:250:19:29

they haven't done, so tomorrow morning, I will be back down there.

0:19:290:19:32

I am really fed up now!

0:19:320:19:35

OK, and how much were you supposed to have in there?

0:19:350:19:37

£387, or thereabouts.

0:19:370:19:40

Right, and that would have been back pay for the six weeks...?

0:19:400:19:43

Six weeks, yeah.

0:19:430:19:45

OK, do you want to get me crying?

0:19:470:19:50

At this point, without Foodbank, what would you be doing to feed your family?

0:19:520:19:57

Probably getting a black sack and running up

0:19:570:20:00

and down this street, throwing things into it.

0:20:000:20:03

I don't know where I would turn. I haven't got the foggiest.

0:20:030:20:07

'Darren now has to take the last £10 out of his savings account.'

0:20:080:20:13

Milk and bread.

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'Darren tells me he had a senior managerial job.

0:20:170:20:21

'It seems his sudden fall into poverty could happen to any of us.'

0:20:210:20:26

I had been, for a number of years, managing...

0:20:260:20:29

a group of recruitment agencies.

0:20:290:20:31

I was commuting to Northampton and back, every day, and, erm...

0:20:310:20:37

I went there one day and the offices were all locked. I didn't know what was going on.

0:20:370:20:42

I came home and next thing I knew, there was a tap on the door.

0:20:420:20:45

"Can we have the car and the laptop back, please?"

0:20:450:20:48

"Why?"

0:20:480:20:49

Cos we're not financially viable, I'm afraid,

0:20:490:20:52

we've run before we can walk, and we're pulling the plug.

0:20:520:20:57

'The following day, Darren heads to the Jobcentre to make a free call

0:20:570:21:01

'to the Benefits Agency.

0:21:010:21:04

'On the way, a friend phoned and told him he was unable to lend him

0:21:040:21:07

'some money.

0:21:070:21:09

'Darren tells me this means his youngest son's birthday

0:21:090:21:12

'will have to be cancelled.'

0:21:120:21:14

We've now got to try

0:21:140:21:16

and explain to a six-year-old child why he's going to wake up on his birthday

0:21:160:21:20

-and not be like the other kids ripping open wrapping paper for his birthday.

-Right.

0:21:200:21:26

Of all the stuff that's going on,

0:21:280:21:30

I guess that must be the most painful?

0:21:300:21:31

Absolutely. At the minute, yeah.

0:21:310:21:33

You wouldn't want to be inside my knotted stomach at the minute.

0:21:330:21:37

I'll tell you why I'm calling. You can see my claim on there.

0:21:400:21:43

We had to get a food voucher last week,

0:21:430:21:47

because you guys had messed up on my claim,

0:21:470:21:49

which was six weeks ago.

0:21:490:21:51

I've got a family to look after. We've got no money. We'll need to get another food parcel...

0:21:510:21:56

and it's my son's birthday,

0:21:560:21:58

and he won't be receiving anything for his birthday, thanks to you.

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So when's the next available appointment, please?

0:22:020:22:05

Tuesday next week is the first time you can get me in?

0:22:060:22:09

It's unacceptable. Unacceptable.

0:22:090:22:13

You know, at the end of the day, I wouldn't want you to live

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in the situation I'm living in right now, I really wouldn't.

0:22:150:22:19

HE HANGS UP

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'I've got kids similar ages to Darren's,

0:22:220:22:24

'and the thought of Ben missing out on a birthday was terrible,

0:22:240:22:27

'so I offered to lend Darren some money for presents.'

0:22:270:22:31

Thank you, bye.

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'The charity behind Foodbank is called the Trussell Trust,

0:22:400:22:44

'a Christian organisation that franchises out

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'the running of food banks to local, mostly evangelical, churches.'

0:22:470:22:52

Thank you. See you later, darling!

0:22:520:22:54

'Gavin, the director of the Coventry network,

0:23:000:23:04

'gave up work as an accountant two years ago

0:23:040:23:06

'to follow a more spiritual road.

0:23:060:23:09

'Tonight, we're on our way to pick up Kelly,

0:23:090:23:11

'the mother-of-two I'd met earlier.

0:23:110:23:14

'Gavin's invited her to speak at a Christian event.'

0:23:140:23:18

Kelly's going to be interviewed, as far as I'm aware, on stage.

0:23:180:23:21

What Kelly has to offer is that, at the end of the day,

0:23:210:23:25

we can talk about the process

0:23:250:23:26

and we can talk about how great it is,

0:23:260:23:29

but that's never expressed as well as through the life of somebody who has benefited from it.

0:23:290:23:35

They're quite broken - Kelly's an example of this -

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and they come along to Foodbank, the cupboard's full,

0:23:380:23:41

and, for a short time, there's an answer there.

0:23:410:23:45

And we like to think it's a measure of bringing a little bit of heaven into people's lives.

0:23:450:23:51

If we can give people an experience

0:23:510:23:53

of meeting and knowing the living God, great.

0:23:530:23:57

That's just fabulous.

0:23:570:23:59

Hello, you coming?

0:23:590:24:02

This is a lot of dogs.

0:24:020:24:03

You've got the baby. This is your 15-year-old, is it?

0:24:030:24:07

Hello, 15-year-old.

0:24:070:24:09

Might need a bit of rhythm...

0:24:160:24:19

# Strength will rise as we wait upon the glory

0:24:190:24:23

# Wait upon the glory Wait upon the glory

0:24:230:24:29

# Strength will rise as we wait upon the glory... #

0:24:290:24:33

Is the environment a bit alien for you?

0:24:330:24:36

Yeah, a little bit.

0:24:360:24:38

# Lord God, you reign

0:24:380:24:42

# For ever

0:24:420:24:46

# Be to our God, for ever and ever

0:24:460:24:53

# Be to our God For ever and ever... #

0:24:530:24:56

This get-together is organised by Christians Against Poverty, part of an evangelical movement

0:24:560:25:02

to provide social services to the most disadvantaged...

0:25:020:25:05

and to win converts.

0:25:050:25:06

Thank you so much for coming to join with us

0:25:060:25:10

to remember the poor this evening.

0:25:100:25:12

We come together to remember the poor,

0:25:120:25:15

and we're excited about the fact that,

0:25:150:25:17

as individuals here this evening,

0:25:170:25:19

you guys are remembering the poor in so many ways.

0:25:190:25:23

To start with, if you'd like to put your hands together

0:25:230:25:25

for Gavin Kibble and Kelly, who's going to share his story.

0:25:250:25:29

We thought it would be really good

0:25:300:25:32

if you met a lady that come through the food bank

0:25:320:25:35

a few weeks ago, and you heard from her

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how she came to be in place where she needed to be touched by the love of...

0:25:380:25:43

so many Christians.

0:25:430:25:45

Tell us a little bit about that moment when you realised

0:25:450:25:47

you needed some outside help, how you went about getting it,

0:25:470:25:50

and what your experience was.

0:25:500:25:52

I woke up in the morning. I was panicking.

0:25:520:25:54

My eldest son was coming home from school, expecting a dinner.

0:25:540:25:57

There wasn't anything, at this point.

0:25:570:25:59

I then had to ring Social Services,

0:25:590:26:02

and they told me about Foodbank

0:26:020:26:03

and got me a voucher and got me sorted out.

0:26:030:26:07

Kelly's situation is not unusual.

0:26:070:26:10

It is amazing to see the church of God rise up in the city of Coventry...

0:26:100:26:15

and demonstrate that God really does love everybody in that city.

0:26:150:26:20

'I don't know if God loves the people of Coventry,

0:26:240:26:27

'but gambling and loan companies certainly do.

0:26:270:26:31

'Within an area of 100 meters in the town centre,

0:26:310:26:35

'there are ten betting shops and five high-interest moneylenders.

0:26:350:26:40

'Charlotte is on her way to one of these.

0:26:400:26:42

'She's still got no income at all,

0:26:420:26:44

'and her boyfriend's benefits have been temporarily suspended.

0:26:440:26:48

'She's had to hock her college laptop for £25 to pay living expenses.

0:26:480:26:54

'To get it back, she has to pay £32.50 within three weeks.

0:26:540:26:58

'She's basically taken a loan with a 480% interest rate.'

0:26:590:27:04

The emergency electric had gone. We were sitting in the dark.

0:27:050:27:09

If I had left it, we wouldn't have had anything to wash in...

0:27:090:27:12

no light, or nothing.

0:27:120:27:13

No heat, no light, no food - nothing.

0:27:130:27:16

So I had to go and put it in, and all my college work is on there,

0:27:160:27:20

all my pictures, all my baby pictures.

0:27:200:27:23

The only ones I've got are on there.

0:27:230:27:25

What did you do with the £25?

0:27:250:27:27

Went and put £10 on my electric.

0:27:270:27:30

I put £5 on gas, to take it off emergency.

0:27:300:27:34

And I spend £10 on food...

0:27:340:27:37

which got me through about... a week.

0:27:370:27:40

And how long would you have had to pay up?

0:27:400:27:45

I have three weeks, but in three weeks I know there's no money.

0:27:450:27:49

I don't know where my next meal is coming from, never mind...

0:27:490:27:52

..actual cash in my hand.

0:27:530:27:56

£32.50 is a LOT of money, a lot.

0:27:560:28:00

'To me, £32.50 doesn't really feel like that much money.

0:28:010:28:06

'So I've given her the cash to get her laptop back.'

0:28:060:28:10

-Laptop?

-Yes, please. Thank you very much.

0:28:100:28:12

That's 32.50, yeah?

0:28:140:28:15

Thank you.

0:28:150:28:17

'Sandra is at the Hope Centre with her husband, Kelvin.

0:28:200:28:24

'There's been a delay reinstating the family's benefits,

0:28:240:28:27

'and their debts are mounting.

0:28:270:28:29

'I'm struck by how different Sandra appears from the first time I filmed her.

0:28:290:28:33

'To me, they both look as though they're in real distress.'

0:28:330:28:37

Are you getting your benefits now?

0:28:370:28:40

We're starting to work it out with Housing Benefits.

0:28:400:28:44

We're looking for a job now, me and Kelvin.

0:28:440:28:47

We've just had enough.

0:28:470:28:48

'A meeting's been called with the family's social care

0:28:480:28:51

'team and the children's teachers.

0:28:510:28:53

'The first point for discussion is the effect on their eldest son's' school life.

0:28:530:28:58

I don't know if this is a front he is putting up...

0:28:580:29:03

-but he didn't want to let anybody in. Does that make sense?

-Yes.

0:29:030:29:08

He's quite embarrassed. Being 13 years old, it's not easy.

0:29:080:29:11

Carl packed the lunch.

0:29:110:29:14

I'm sure nobody else knows this, because he done a very good job,

0:29:140:29:17

but bread and water, that's it.

0:29:170:29:19

He made sure nobody else could see that,

0:29:190:29:23

but you could see in his face.

0:29:230:29:25

It's not nice. You sit with your mates and you have just bread and water.

0:29:250:29:29

We couldn't afford anything else.

0:29:290:29:30

And he got so happy when he got his free school meal.

0:29:300:29:33

Oh, God, he was really delighted.

0:29:330:29:37

'Apart from the struggle for food,

0:29:370:29:39

'the family are still in serious debt to their landlord.'

0:29:390:29:43

In the last meeting, we talked about,

0:29:430:29:45

can you afford in the long term,

0:29:450:29:47

for twelve months,

0:29:470:29:48

to stay in the property?

0:29:480:29:49

Have you come to any conclusion of where you want to go

0:29:490:29:53

and what you want to do?

0:29:530:29:54

Yeah.

0:29:540:29:56

Basically, me and Kelvin came to the conclusion

0:29:560:30:00

-we cannot afford to pay.

-OK.

0:30:000:30:03

And...the solution is, be...homeless.

0:30:030:30:08

OK.

0:30:080:30:10

Register as homeless and see how it goes.

0:30:100:30:12

If you made yourself homeless,

0:30:120:30:14

they may not offer you a house straightaway, they may offer you bed and breakfast,

0:30:140:30:18

-or something like that.

-Yep.

0:30:180:30:19

Which means you could be in there for a good few months

0:30:190:30:22

before they find you a place.

0:30:220:30:24

SHE SOBS

0:30:270:30:29

We just can't take it any more.

0:30:300:30:34

Just can't take it any more.

0:30:340:30:36

I'm in that situation, not because I am lazy.

0:30:390:30:41

I want to work,

0:30:410:30:42

and I lost everything to choose to go into work.

0:30:420:30:46

But sometimes you think you make the right decision,

0:30:470:30:51

but you make the wrong decision.

0:30:510:30:53

Being lazy would help my situation. Being working, it doesn't.

0:30:530:30:58

'Caroline, the younger Children's Welfare Officer,

0:30:580:31:01

'is the person who's been issuing the family's food vouchers.

0:31:010:31:04

'But on Sandra's last visit,

0:31:040:31:06

'she was challenged by Gavin about her repeated use of the service.'

0:31:060:31:12

Caroline, with all the respect, I do appreciate your help,

0:31:120:31:15

but after last week, when we came here, we made the decision,

0:31:150:31:20

no way I want anything to do with the food bank. No way.

0:31:200:31:23

Because that is not the way to treat people.

0:31:230:31:26

Three vouchers, in reality, that is enough...? It's not.

0:31:260:31:32

In their defence, they're all volunteers.

0:31:320:31:34

They're not professional people.

0:31:340:31:36

It's no excuse, because I'm a volunteer where I'm working,

0:31:360:31:40

and I don't get paid not one penny,

0:31:400:31:43

but I'm doing my job. I'm stressed, I cry every day.

0:31:430:31:46

I can't even stand on my legs sometimes when I'm hungry,

0:31:460:31:49

but I go there and I am professional.

0:31:490:31:52

I am. I don't treat anyone badly.

0:31:520:31:57

Something went wrong in terms of Sandra's experience

0:31:570:32:01

with Foodbank, didn't it?

0:32:010:32:04

Yes, and I'm still trying to get to the bottom of exactly what that experience was.

0:32:040:32:08

From what I can gather, coming here is a very difficult thing

0:32:080:32:14

for her to do and, given that, the mere fact her entitlement

0:32:140:32:18

was questioned was enough to sort of push her over the edge.

0:32:180:32:22

Yeah, and that's the same impression that I get.

0:32:220:32:25

At the end of the day, we have to avoid abuse.

0:32:250:32:28

If you're at seven or eight referrals, that's our duty to challenge it.

0:32:280:32:31

It really is unfortunate

0:32:310:32:34

that somebody's pride and dignity is offended by that.

0:32:340:32:39

I feel I have a duty to everybody who contributes food into the food bank

0:32:390:32:43

to be sure we're feeding the right people.

0:32:430:32:47

'Darren is on his way to Foodbank for a second time,

0:32:550:32:59

'a week after he was first here.

0:32:590:33:00

'Gavin knows he's coming and is bending the rules to save

0:33:040:33:07

'Darren the trouble of returning to the Jobcentre for a voucher.'

0:33:070:33:10

-Hello, nice to see you.

-It's good to see you.

-How's things?

0:33:100:33:13

Well, better for me than for you, I think.

0:33:130:33:15

-Thank you for that.

-That's all right.

0:33:150:33:18

'Tomorrow is Darren's youngest son's birthday.'

0:33:180:33:23

-Gavin's seven tomorrow, isn't he?

-Yeah, that's right.

0:33:230:33:27

'A birthday cake has been put aside from today's delivery of fresh food.'

0:33:270:33:32

-Here's your gateau...

-Thank you.

0:33:320:33:34

..for your son's birthday.

0:33:340:33:37

Good day to get food, today.

0:33:370:33:39

Good day for a slab of chocolate gateau.

0:33:390:33:42

Have you got enough birthday candles?

0:33:430:33:47

Yeah, last year's - just add one to it.

0:33:470:33:50

'Darren's quickly getting familiar with the system.'

0:33:500:33:54

What's that? Oh!

0:33:540:33:56

'And today, he's taking home close to £100-worth of food.

0:33:560:34:01

'Gavin offers to give Darren a lift home with the shopping.'

0:34:010:34:06

Thanks ever so much.

0:34:060:34:08

'For Charlotte, there's been a dramatic change in circumstances.

0:34:130:34:17

'Originally from London,

0:34:170:34:19

'she was moved to Coventry by Social Services,

0:34:190:34:22

'but they then lost contact with her. She's back in touch now,

0:34:220:34:25

'and because they have a responsibility toward her

0:34:250:34:28

'until she's 24, she's now getting regular hardship payments,

0:34:280:34:32

'and can go shopping.'

0:34:320:34:34

I don't get none of my veg from here.

0:34:340:34:37

Because Foleshill Road do them really cheap, like 10p an onion and stuff.

0:34:370:34:41

'But she's living on what must be the bare minimum.'

0:34:430:34:47

So how much have you got to spend now?

0:34:470:34:50

Well, I've got £20, but meats in a bag, like sausages,

0:34:500:34:54

I normally get from Iceland cos they're cheap and cheerful.

0:34:540:34:59

£20 will last you how long?

0:34:590:35:03

A week, easily.

0:35:030:35:05

Back then, I could never afford anything like that.

0:35:050:35:09

-Even now, you couldn't afford that. Couldn't afford a chicken.

-No!

0:35:090:35:13

'Now you do have money for food,'

0:35:140:35:16

-do you see that you were starving for the past three months?

-Yeah.

0:35:160:35:20

That's the way you see it, is it?

0:35:200:35:23

Yeah. Badly, as well.

0:35:230:35:25

I was living off one meal a day, if that.

0:35:270:35:29

The worst thing is the first two weeks that you go hungry,

0:35:300:35:34

cos you're used to eating normally,

0:35:340:35:36

you wake up and your body's like, "Food!" and you're not eating.

0:35:360:35:40

By the time it gets round to dinner, it sounds stupid,

0:35:410:35:44

you're that hungry, you're not hungry.

0:35:440:35:47

It almost becomes a game.

0:35:470:35:50

You get wrapped up in this sick little game where you think,

0:35:500:35:55

"If I can stop eating for this amount of time,

0:35:550:35:58

"then I'll have this amount of food for the next day."

0:35:580:36:03

How much did that lot cost you?

0:36:030:36:05

It come to...

0:36:050:36:07

£6.89.

0:36:080:36:11

That's quite expensive, still.

0:36:110:36:13

I know to other people that don't sound expensive for all the stuff I got, £6.89.

0:36:130:36:16

I've got to get toilet roll, shower gel...

0:36:160:36:19

They're always left till last.

0:36:190:36:22

OK. Cos they're less essential?

0:36:220:36:24

SHE LAUGHS

0:36:240:36:26

I seem to survive on very little knowledge.

0:36:270:36:30

There were so many things I got confused about

0:36:300:36:34

-because no-one has taught me.

-Sure.

0:36:340:36:36

Ah!

0:36:360:36:39

SHE LAUGHS

0:36:390:36:40

She was gorgeous!

0:36:400:36:42

'For somebody who's grown up in care,

0:36:440:36:46

'Charlotte seems to have a determination to better herself,

0:36:460:36:50

'despite never having a proper family to learn from.'

0:36:500:36:55

She's lovely!

0:36:550:36:58

-That's not beetroot!

-It is.

0:36:580:37:01

Beetroot's red!

0:37:010:37:03

It will be red, if you clean the mud off it.

0:37:030:37:05

Oh. Wow! Really?

0:37:060:37:09

I worked out I didn't like avocado from Foodbank.

0:37:090:37:13

That's that green thing, isn't it? I didn't like that.

0:37:130:37:16

'Charlotte may now be able to buy food,

0:37:170:37:20

'but what she's been through in the last months

0:37:200:37:22

'is just a continuation of what she's endured throughout her life,

0:37:220:37:26

'and things have finally got too much for her.'

0:37:260:37:29

I was passed from foster carer to foster carer

0:37:290:37:32

with a black bin liner full of my stuff and told to get on with it.

0:37:320:37:36

They say, "Here's the shower, here's the kitchen, here's your bedroom, off you go."

0:37:360:37:41

You don't even want to come out of the bedroom, you don't even want to use the shower.

0:37:410:37:44

I think all that's catching up on me.

0:37:440:37:48

I went to the doctor's to get temazepam to sleep, cos that's the main thing.

0:37:480:37:53

I can't sleep, even with the temazepam. It's doing my head in. I'm knackered all the time.

0:37:530:37:58

-I think I'm having breakdown.

-Do you?

0:37:580:38:01

Yeah. I'm not like this. I'm not self-pitying, normally, either.

0:38:010:38:06

Sounds silly and selfish.

0:38:070:38:08

I feel really sorry for myself.

0:38:080:38:10

I think it's cos of everything I have been through the last couple of months,

0:38:100:38:14

cos I've struggled so much, my body and my brain's just gone,

0:38:140:38:17

"Right, enough!"

0:38:170:38:19

I think I shut away that much,

0:38:190:38:22

everything has just...

0:38:220:38:25

reared its head at the same time.

0:38:250:38:27

We have shed-loads of blueberry muffins. I have 2,000,

0:38:270:38:31

so do not be afraid to give them away.

0:38:310:38:34

'I'm at Foodbank two weeks later,

0:38:340:38:36

'and Charlotte's boyfriend has phoned Gavin,

0:38:360:38:39

'desperate for some spare food.'

0:38:390:38:41

-That's for Charlotte over there.

-OK, Charlotte.

0:38:410:38:45

'To find out what's gone wrong, I offer to take it round to them.'

0:38:450:38:49

PHONE RINGS

0:38:490:38:51

-Hello?

-Ash, hi, it's David.

0:38:550:38:57

You all right, David?

0:38:570:38:59

Yeah, I'm sitting outside your block with Charlotte's food in my boot.

0:38:590:39:04

-I'll run down.

-All right, see you in a sec.

0:39:040:39:08

See you in a sec.

0:39:080:39:10

'Charlotte is seriously distressed and doesn't want to do any filming.

0:39:110:39:16

'It's another week before she agrees to talk to me on camera.'

0:39:160:39:19

You weren't in a very good way when I came last week, were you?

0:39:190:39:25

No, not at all.

0:39:250:39:27

I didn't even want to accept help, to be honest.

0:39:270:39:30

My appetite had got back to normal

0:39:300:39:32

and I started feeling a bit healthier,

0:39:320:39:34

which meant when we were plunged back

0:39:340:39:36

into struggling, I was starving hungry again, like, ridiculously.

0:39:360:39:40

Had nothing.

0:39:400:39:42

It's the worst feeling, knowing your belly's rumbling

0:39:420:39:44

and you can't do anything about it and you feel sick.

0:39:440:39:47

It's awful.

0:39:470:39:48

My cupboard has...not a lot.

0:39:480:39:51

'Despite the payments from Social Services, Charlotte's still living below the breadline.'

0:39:510:39:56

So what are you and Ash going to eat tonight?

0:39:580:40:01

Erm...I'm not sure at the moment.

0:40:010:40:04

I don't think I've got any food. I haven't got any food in the freezer...

0:40:040:40:08

at all.

0:40:080:40:09

That's properly empty.

0:40:090:40:11

I don't think I've got anything in there.

0:40:110:40:14

Oh, I have two onions!

0:40:140:40:16

A bit of jam...

0:40:180:40:19

..tiny bit of milk...and that's it.

0:40:210:40:25

'The cause of her renewed hunger appears to stem

0:40:250:40:28

'from a loan taken out some months ago.

0:40:280:40:31

'When her boyfriend had a part-time job,

0:40:310:40:33

'they borrowed £125 from The Money Shop but were unable to repay and the debt has doubled.'

0:40:330:40:39

When he lost his job, disaster struck.

0:40:390:40:44

We had no money to pay them at all.

0:40:440:40:46

That meant they try and take money off you every single day

0:40:460:40:52

until you finally get money in your bank.

0:40:520:40:54

Two benefit monies, he's had.

0:40:540:40:57

All of them have gone.

0:40:570:40:59

So they're given completely free access to your bank account?

0:40:590:41:02

They can do what they want, when they want, how they want.

0:41:020:41:04

They can take as much as they want, whenever they want.

0:41:040:41:08

I get for other people they think, "Why do you keep doing this?

0:41:080:41:12

"Why can't you figure out something else?"

0:41:120:41:15

But when you're in this position,

0:41:150:41:17

you exhaust every other option,

0:41:170:41:20

so you're left with no choice.

0:41:200:41:23

What do you do? Do you sit with nothing?

0:41:230:41:25

It don't feel like you live, it feels like you just survive.

0:41:250:41:29

'The Money Shop have since told me they've frozen the debt.

0:41:290:41:34

'Kelly's life's seems to be entering a more settled phase.

0:41:410:41:45

'The father of her youngest child is living with them now

0:41:450:41:48

'and she's beginning to get back on her feet.'

0:41:480:41:51

It was only those few days where everything was a mess.

0:41:530:41:57

Back to normal now. The mortgage, that's the only worry now.

0:41:590:42:04

'With levels of personal debt at an all-time high,

0:42:090:42:12

'many of us live closer to the breadline than we like to think.

0:42:120:42:16

'We're encouraged to spend, not to save...

0:42:160:42:19

'so when things go wrong, it's too easy to be tipped into poverty.'

0:42:190:42:24

Go and lie down. Cess, that means you.

0:42:240:42:28

Move, now!

0:42:280:42:30

'Within a matter of days, a volunteer is delivering another food parcel.'

0:42:300:42:35

Thanks very much.

0:42:350:42:38

'Like Charlotte, Kelly is paying a high price for easy money.'

0:42:380:42:42

Why did you need another food parcel?

0:42:420:42:45

The money that went in for Tax Credits got taken up

0:42:450:42:51

with other bills before it hit the account.

0:42:510:42:55

When you say "other bills", what does that mean?

0:42:550:43:00

Just some loans.

0:43:000:43:03

-And these would be high-interest loans?

-Yeah.

0:43:030:43:07

I didn't know how much they were taking, but every time

0:43:070:43:11

I went to the get my money over the last two weeks, it was gone.

0:43:110:43:14

I told them I was out of work and could we arrange something?

0:43:140:43:17

-But they still kept taking it.

-Right.

0:43:170:43:21

Apparently, that's what the agreement says.

0:43:210:43:23

They can take...

0:43:230:43:25

As much as they wanted, whenever they wanted.

0:43:250:43:28

-OK. Even though it leaves you in a position where you can't buy food?

-Yes. Yeah.

0:43:280:43:33

What's that on your face?

0:43:330:43:36

Right, can I get you sign this, please?

0:43:360:43:38

'Darren appears to have become a regular at Foodbank...

0:43:380:43:42

HE LAUGHS

0:43:420:43:44

'..and gets his food without the need for a voucher.'

0:43:440:43:49

Lovely. Thank you. Cheers, mate.

0:43:490:43:52

Is that everything, Jordan?

0:43:540:43:57

'He arrives early because lately, the fresh food

0:43:570:44:00

'has been running out before the end of the day.'

0:44:000:44:03

I think they knew you were coming

0:44:030:44:05

and thought, "Let's give him all the cakes!"

0:44:050:44:08

Your shelves are almost empty, Tony.

0:44:080:44:10

Absolutely, devastated.

0:44:100:44:13

We haven't been this busy since we started a year ago.

0:44:130:44:17

This time last year.

0:44:170:44:19

It's all I've got.

0:44:190:44:20

Not today, sorry.

0:44:220:44:26

How do you feel when you run out of food like this?

0:44:260:44:30

When I've run out on a good day and fed everybody, it's great.

0:44:300:44:34

On days like this when you've run out of food and there's people out there that need food,

0:44:340:44:39

it cuts me up to the gut.

0:44:390:44:42

This shouldn't be happening.

0:44:420:44:44

I feel we've got to do something more, but I don't know what.

0:44:440:44:47

'They're having a party of sorts at the Hope Centre.'

0:44:510:44:55

Hello, how are you doing?

0:44:550:44:57

'Since they opened 18 months ago, they've issued 10,000 food parcels,

0:44:570:45:03

'and today the Lord Mayor is coming to mark the occasion.'

0:45:030:45:05

I'm Gavin Kibble, I'm the operations director.

0:45:050:45:09

Nice to meet you. Thank you so much for coming.

0:45:090:45:11

'The symbolic 10,000th client, chosen to receive the food parcel,

0:45:110:45:14

'is Darren.'

0:45:140:45:16

This is symbolically, cos we've gone over 10,000.

0:45:160:45:20

We are feeding the 10,000th person by Coventry Foodbank

0:45:200:45:24

since it started, 18 months ago.

0:45:240:45:27

So, Lord Mayor, If you'd like to feed Darren...?

0:45:270:45:30

We're not going to force-feed you,

0:45:300:45:32

we're just going to give you some food.

0:45:320:45:34

-I wish I wasn't handing this to you.

-So do I, but you are, so thank you very much.

0:45:340:45:38

Can you give a round of applause? Well done!

0:45:380:45:41

'But I'm beginning to have my doubts about Darren.

0:45:410:45:44

'He's been doing radio interviews today in the run up to the event

0:45:440:45:47

'and he's giving a completely different account of the cause of his benefit delay.'

0:45:470:45:52

D'you want me to sign the bottom?

0:45:520:45:54

'He's behaving with a sense of entitlement

0:45:540:45:56

'I've not seen in any of the other clients.'

0:45:560:45:58

If you see Gavin, he sends me down, so it's fine.

0:45:580:46:02

Could I swap that for something? That's much better.

0:46:020:46:06

What about that watermelon, are you doing anything with that?

0:46:060:46:09

'He's now driving a courier van

0:46:090:46:11

'and despite claiming Job Seeker's Allowance, he's doing delivery jobs,

0:46:110:46:15

'which he's not declaring, so he's committing benefit fraud.'

0:46:150:46:18

Got work Thursday, Friday, just doing some multi-drop driving.

0:46:180:46:22

Couple of days' work for money that I wouldn't have, you know?

0:46:220:46:25

-Right.

-Ben, can you come here so I can test you on this?

0:46:250:46:31

'On his way to Foodbank on one occasion,

0:46:310:46:34

'he stopped to buy Ben a new scooter.

0:46:340:46:39

'And he's only client I've come across who's stopped on the way home

0:46:390:46:43

'to buy Parma ham from the supermarket.'

0:46:430:46:46

I take it the Parma ham didn't come from the food bank?

0:46:460:46:48

No, but I have had nice salami from there before.

0:46:480:46:52

'And today, he's telling everyone he's about to start a new managerial job.'

0:46:520:46:57

Got any job interviews lined up?

0:46:570:46:59

I've got a job starting on the 23rd, which is really good.

0:46:590:47:02

-Really?!

-It's working for Parcelforce.

0:47:020:47:05

Decent money, company vehicle,

0:47:070:47:09

management role, so back into what I'm used to.

0:47:090:47:12

'But Parcelforce tell me they've never heard of him.

0:47:120:47:18

'Gavin, though, remains convinced about Darren's need.'

0:47:180:47:23

He's a very genuine guy.

0:47:230:47:25

It was a pleasure to work with him, you know, and, erm...

0:47:250:47:29

I'm really pleased with the outcome of that one.

0:47:290:47:31

It's a good news story for him and for the food bank, as well.

0:47:310:47:36

We have a set of procedures

0:47:370:47:40

and practices to protect the food bank from abuse.

0:47:400:47:43

If we feel the need is genuine,

0:47:430:47:45

we don't play to the system,

0:47:450:47:47

we play to the need that we see.

0:47:470:47:50

If he'd been really clever, he could have pulled the wool over our eyes.

0:47:500:47:54

But I really don't think that was Darren...

0:47:540:47:59

at all.

0:47:590:48:00

'But it seems that little Darren has told any of us has been true.'

0:48:010:48:06

Milk and bread.

0:48:060:48:08

'The first time I'd filmed him, I'd lent him some money

0:48:080:48:10

'for his son's birthday.

0:48:100:48:12

'A check with the Coventry registrar

0:48:120:48:14

'reveals that it wasn't Ben's birthday at all - that was two months earlier.

0:48:140:48:20

'The Benefits Agency tell me Darren was in full-time employment

0:48:200:48:24

'as a courier until the day before he first arrived at Foodbank...

0:48:240:48:27

'and his benefits were paid a week later, meaning there never was a delay at all.'

0:48:270:48:33

-Is that all yours, mate, yeah?

-Yeah, it is.

0:48:330:48:36

They give you all that?

0:48:360:48:38

He's got a large family.

0:48:380:48:40

Ah!

0:48:400:48:41

'A serial debtor with a string of County Court judgments against him,

0:48:440:48:48

'I think Darren targeted the food bank and did very well,

0:48:480:48:51

'because the system was easy to manipulate.

0:48:510:48:55

When I catch up with him, he's started a new job...

0:48:560:49:00

'but it's not as a manager for Parcelforce.'

0:49:000:49:05

What's the job you're doing now?

0:49:050:49:07

It's... driving, delivering to people,

0:49:070:49:11

so it's on the opposite side.

0:49:110:49:13

But, to be honest, it's going to tide me over

0:49:130:49:16

until I'm in a better position to put my suit back on again.

0:49:160:49:20

Looking back over what I filmed with you over the weeks,

0:49:200:49:23

one of the most obviously painful things was Ben's birthday.

0:49:230:49:28

Was it his birthday that weekend?

0:49:290:49:31

Yep. He got his trampoline, it's down his nanny's, if you go and have a look.

0:49:310:49:34

Do you want to go and bounce on it? THEY LAUGH

0:49:340:49:37

-It wasn't actually his birthday that weekend, was it?

-What?

0:49:370:49:40

It wasn't Ben's birthday that weekend, was it?

0:49:400:49:43

All right, a couple of weekends before, but it was us

0:49:430:49:46

making it up to him, basically.

0:49:460:49:48

His birthday was way before that.

0:49:480:49:50

It was, but do you know what it was? It was an emotional factor that we had planned a party for him...

0:49:500:49:54

Hang on, Darren, his birthday was in the beginning of May.

0:49:540:49:57

May...but we planned a party for Ben.

0:49:570:49:59

We couldn't afford anything at the time...

0:49:590:50:02

Hang on, you couldn't afford anything in May?!

0:50:020:50:04

-Not really...

-But you were in full-time employment in May.

0:50:040:50:07

I was, but we were starting to struggle at the time.

0:50:070:50:11

According to the Benefits Agency,

0:50:110:50:13

you were a van driver on the 5th of May.

0:50:130:50:16

I wasn't.

0:50:160:50:18

According to them, you've been on and off the benefits system for some time.

0:50:180:50:21

I haven't been on and off it for some time.

0:50:210:50:24

-And you've got a history of debting and petty offences.

-I have, yeah.

0:50:240:50:27

And I think you heard about food banks and you targeted them

0:50:270:50:32

for a bit of free shopping.

0:50:320:50:33

That wasn't the case, Dave.

0:50:330:50:36

I did get a fair bit of food, yeah...

0:50:360:50:39

You got a month's worth of shopping out of the food bank and that's worth about £500?

0:50:390:50:44

I don't know. From the stuff they gave me, I couldn't tell you, Dave.

0:50:440:50:47

I don't know, mate.

0:50:470:50:49

Me, man. You, woman. Here, we've got two.

0:50:490:50:52

Two people.

0:50:520:50:54

You, one. Who's the other?

0:50:540:50:56

'At the Hope Centre, Gavin is scrutinising people's vouchers.'

0:50:560:51:01

I've got two support workers who have turned up without any form of identification.

0:51:040:51:10

That's fine. I just needed to be sure. Bye!

0:51:100:51:14

You have been accurately described!

0:51:140:51:16

'I was struck by the ease with which Darren had abused the system.'

0:51:160:51:21

I actually think we have, for the voluntary sector,

0:51:210:51:24

a very tight level of control.

0:51:240:51:27

And we need that because we need to honour every single tin

0:51:270:51:30

that's been donated to us by the general public.

0:51:300:51:33

That we have a good idea that the food is going to somebody who actually needs it.

0:51:330:51:38

Somebody like Darren, for example...

0:51:380:51:40

you gave him vouchers when he needed them?

0:51:400:51:44

Yes, very specific example of somebody we got to know very well

0:51:440:51:48

and understood the circumstances.

0:51:480:51:51

Do you think you were equipped to assess his need properly?

0:51:510:51:55

-Yes, I think so.

-And do you think you assessed his need properly?

0:51:550:51:58

Yes.

0:51:580:52:00

-Darren was a conman.

-Serious?

0:52:000:52:03

Darren as a conman. Nothing he told you was true.

0:52:030:52:06

He got you into a position where you were giving him vouchers on demand

0:52:060:52:09

and he took you for everything he could.

0:52:090:52:11

This is being recorded?

0:52:110:52:13

This is being recorded, yeah.

0:52:130:52:14

Then I need to reassess what we're doing.

0:52:180:52:21

I'm absolutely shocked by that, cos...

0:52:210:52:24

I felt we were a good judge of people.

0:52:240:52:27

So I'm just...

0:52:270:52:29

HE SIGHS

0:52:290:52:30

The stories of everyone I've met are more complex than they first appear.

0:52:370:52:41

And the system IS too easily abused.

0:52:420:52:45

But food banks have identified, and are trying to meet, a real social need,

0:52:480:52:53

and for every opportunist,

0:52:530:52:55

there are many more in genuine crisis, with nowhere else to turn.

0:52:550:52:59

You all right, Jayden? You going to have a Mr Kipling cake? Yeah.

0:52:590:53:05

'You don't have to be at Foodbank long to meet people

0:53:060:53:09

'like Aaron and Zoe.

0:53:090:53:11

'Aaron's been in and out of low-paid work

0:53:110:53:14

'and the couple are struggling with rent arrears.'

0:53:140:53:17

Is that nice?

0:53:170:53:19

Your weekly food budget is how much?

0:53:200:53:23

About £40, so this is a big help.

0:53:230:53:27

For a family of four, you need at least £90.

0:53:270:53:30

So how have you been managing

0:53:300:53:32

when you've not been going to the food bank?

0:53:320:53:34

Just not eating. We just eat one meal a day,

0:53:340:53:37

whereas the kids get full breakfast, lunch, dinner and pudding.

0:53:370:53:41

I won't eat until about 10 o'clock, so it lasts longer.

0:53:410:53:46

So you wake up and you're not hungry, and you can last the next day and until night time, then.

0:53:460:53:50

We've got to think about the kids before ourselves.

0:53:500:53:54

You don't have a go at that, do you?

0:53:540:53:57

You love your food.

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