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This is the story of one of the greatest | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
and most controversial conductors | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
of the 20th century. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
The Hungarian-born Georg Solti. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
Through a 50-year career around the world, | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
he scaled the peak of musical power and influence | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
by his extraordinary talent combined with a blazing personality | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
that never dimmed. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
He was a man with a character with a lot of fire, | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
and immediately everyone is set on fire around him. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:43 | |
He was driven by overpowering ambition. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
I would go anywhere, | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
I would kill my grandfather, | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
because I was starving for work. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
His performances thrilled audiences in opera houses and concert halls... | 0:00:55 | 0:01:00 | |
Take 130. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
..and legendary recordings made him | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
one of the best-selling classical artists of all. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
He was loved... | 0:01:08 | 0:01:09 | |
He was a really great musician, a great friend. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:13 | |
He was also loathed. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:15 | |
All he did, in my opinion, was get in the way. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
But he always demanded respect. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
If you like quality, then I'm easy. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
If you don't like to work hard, I'm difficult. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
There has never been another conductor quite like him. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:30 | |
He was always the Maestro. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
This...is the REAL Georg Solti. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
WOMAN SINGS OPERATIC ARIA | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
This is the Hotel L'Andana, in Tuscany, near Castiglione. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
Here at the Georg Solti Academy, | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
the internationally renowned soprano, Angela Gheorghiu, | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
is giving the first masterclass she's ever held. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
Passing on to a new generation | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
the experiences of nearly two decades | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
at the top of her profession. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
The Solti Academy has enabled her students to travel here | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
from across Europe to attend a three-week singers' course. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
Just one part of the rich legacy that Solti left behind | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
when he died at the age of 84 in 1997. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
OK, you have that. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
-SHE SINGS A FEW NOTES -The same, yeah? | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
-Listen... -SHE SINGS | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
For Angela, this is repaying the debt that she owes Solti. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
His belief in her propelled her to overnight stardom. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:14 | |
My life, it is very much related to Georg Solti. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
All my interviews, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:22 | |
all my stories start with Georg Solti, because | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
everybody discovered me at the Royal Opera House, in Traviata. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:31 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
She made her debut under his baton | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
in London, in December 1994. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
QUIET STRINGS | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
And this production of Verdi's La Traviata | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
was seen on television by millions. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
'The whole BBC2 schedule was swept aside,' | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
so we had Verdi wall to wall for one evening, | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
with the great Angela Gheorghiu. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
And she was tremendous, but so was Solti in the pit. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
The iron and the discipline | 0:04:08 | 0:04:09 | |
and the power and the electricity that he generated. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
Solti was 82 when he conducted this production, | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
but his legendary style was as forceful as ever. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
'He conducted almost like he was playing the piano, | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
'but it would be the orchestra that he was playing. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
'Once you look at the man' | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
who's had that amount of music through his body, | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
you think, "I just can't let you down. I have to do the best I can." | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
'He was an example. To conduct at 82' | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
with such, um... | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
young spirit. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
And I know that in that particular moment, I need to be...the best. | 0:04:55 | 0:05:01 | |
It was Solti's typically bold decision | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
to cast the little known Romanian soprano. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:21 | |
All his life he had demonstrated that instinct | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
for recognising musicians who shared his passion | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
for excellence in performance | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
and the importance of bringing it to the widest possible audience. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
'I had one rehearsal with her in my home, | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
'and when she finished,' | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
I just couldn't speak. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
It was so moving, so wonderful. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
So that was the beginning of the story. I cried! | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
Solti's relationship with the Royal Opera House | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
stretched back nearly 40 years, | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
beginning with one of the pivotal appointments in his career. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
In 1961 he became music director | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
of what was then known as the Covent Garden Opera Company. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
'Covent Garden was a relatively young company. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
'It had only begun after the war | 0:06:08 | 0:06:09 | |
'and was starting to brim and boom with talent.' | 0:06:09 | 0:06:14 | |
But it needed the final touch. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:15 | |
It needed somebody to bring it all together | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
and to put it onto the world map. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
That's what Solti did. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:22 | |
'And he arrived, curiously enough. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
'in the same year as Rudolf Nureyev.' | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
They both appeared like meteorites. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
There was a huge explosion from both of them. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
'Both highly energetic, very clear ideas of what they wanted | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
'and how they were going to achieve them.' | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
'And Solti arrived in our midst.' | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
"I'm coming to Covent Garden and I'm going to make the Royal Opera | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
"the best opera company in the world." | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
And he proclaimed that from the rooftops. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
'He had this extraordinary ability | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
'to energise everything and everybody he came into contact with. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:11 | |
'He dwelt a great deal on rhythmic incisiveness, | 0:07:11 | 0:07:15 | |
'precision and excitement.' | 0:07:15 | 0:07:19 | |
And these were qualities | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
which in fact the Opera House probably needed at that point. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
In fact, I knew myself, by then, we needed someone quite different | 0:07:25 | 0:07:30 | |
'from anybody we'd had in the past.' | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
'I was a very different person at that point. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
'I was a sort of Prussian dictator, which was very good for them.' | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
Discipline they needed. There was no discipline in this house. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
'Orchestra is, from slow start, coming in to get better.' | 0:07:52 | 0:07:57 | |
They are starting always very slow, | 0:07:57 | 0:07:58 | |
starting so I want to commit suicide. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
'Then it gets better and it comes to something good.' | 0:08:00 | 0:08:04 | |
'I'd been interested with the whole bureaucratic procedure.' | 0:08:08 | 0:08:13 | |
Not only conducting, | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
but going to the stage in rehearsal, go to the lighting rigs, | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
'see the sets for the first time lit. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
'That was new. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
'"What the bloody hell is he putting his nose into that? Why?"' | 0:08:23 | 0:08:28 | |
Please, on the development, the main scene, the first main scene, again. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
Be so kind, come a bit later on the semiquaver. Risk a bit more. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
# Eeh-ah-ta-da Tee-ah-ta-ta-ta! # | 0:08:35 | 0:08:39 | |
I would like to make this marvellous difference | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
between quaver and semiquaver. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
'He'd been there for about a year and a half before I joined. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
'He was like a boxer going into the ring.' | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
He bounced in full of energy, jumped on the rostrum and he'd be going... | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
MAKES POPPING SOUNDS | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
"Yes, my dears! Yes, my dears! Come on, come on, stop the revolution!" | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
Especially if it was a stage rehearsal, that was his favourite phrase - | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
"Stop the revolution! Stop the revolution!" | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
'You have to bear in mind, the orchestra wasn't like it is today. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
'Today it's like a well-oiled machine. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
'In those days we had an awful lot of players | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
'who'd learned their trade in the silent cinemas | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
'and the summer seasides. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
'He obviously had never played in an orchestra. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
'That's why he conduced a lot with his elbows.' | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
In fact, it took me a while, | 0:09:40 | 0:09:41 | |
but I finally worked out that the downbeat was on his right elbow. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
He also used to get very tense. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
I remember once he stabbed himself in the forehead with his baton. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
He was conducting away. The leader handed him a handkerchief | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
and he was holding the handkerchief and conducting, turning the page. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:05 | |
His early years at Covent Garden were always controversial. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
'Rather hard to express this,' | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
but the Royal Opera House was a very English establishment. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
And English ways are not always understood by those who are not English. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:26 | |
But he did come with this reputation | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
of being someone who was not necessarily satisfied | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
with what he discovered. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
He was often correcting | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
what we would look on nowadays as basic mistakes or problems. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:40 | |
Like getting rhythms together. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
A classic one being the dotted rhythm. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
# Da ta-ta ta-ta. # | 0:10:48 | 0:10:49 | |
Which is one, two, three, four, one ,two three. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
And so Georg would go, "No, no. BOO BOO-BOO!" | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
# Pa... Pa... PAH! # | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
Give the main emphasis on the last note, yes? On the last note and very late. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:01 | |
'They hated me like anything!' | 0:11:01 | 0:11:02 | |
# Ba... BA! # | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
They called me a Prussian... | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
bastard, or something like that. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
Or the Hungarian Disaster! All sorts of nice names. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
There were some complaints from some singers about his failure, | 0:11:12 | 0:11:18 | |
in their view, in fact, to keep the orchestra at fortissimo down. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:23 | |
And they sometimes felt they were being drowned. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
There was a terrible sort of campaign against him. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
'Remember, Covent Garden in those days, | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
'was a wholesale vegetable market.' | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
And one night there was a cauliflower with a "Solti Must Go" | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
thing stuck on it got lobbed across the footlights. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
All around that time thrown down vegetable baskets, | 0:11:41 | 0:11:46 | |
'onions and potatoes.' | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
'I can remember seeing from the stage door | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
'to the front of the house all along the wall and the outside,' | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
"Solti must go" stickers. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
'And then it was some point somebody scratched my car.' | 0:11:57 | 0:12:02 | |
I had a silver Mercedes, it was. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
MAKES SCRATCHING SOUND Very unpleasant. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
I knew that it's some nasty young boy. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
Just one or two. I mean, it's not serious. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
'There were a lot of protests and I discovered who they were. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
'There was a whole band of people in the gallery | 0:12:16 | 0:12:17 | |
'and I got somebody to get them all together for me' | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
and we had supper one night and we talked about it. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
And I said, "Whatever else you do, stop booing. This man will go home | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
"and we are not going to lose him because of you." | 0:12:28 | 0:12:32 | |
In fact nothing would deter Solti from his mission. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:37 | |
From provocative productions like Schoenberg's Moses and Aaron... | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
..to fresh productions of loved old favourites, | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
like Mozart's Marriage of Figaro. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
WOMAN SINGS | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
His relentless energy helped to transform opera in Britain. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
In 1968, the Covent Garden Opera Company | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
would be renamed the Royal Opera. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
Very sexy. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
And the '60s would become the Solti era. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
You thought, "This is history in the making." | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
We were getting international singers and marvellous new works. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:11 | |
And he was suddenly pushing it up into the international league. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
MAN SINGS | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
SOLTI WHISTLES MELODY | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
WOMAN SINGS | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
He was born Georg Stern in Budapest in Hungary, in 1912. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:55 | |
The son of a rather unsuccessful Jewish businessman | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
and his music-loving wife. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
Both he and his elder sister took music lessons, | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
and the young Georg proved to be an exceptionally talented pianist. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
He'd accompany his sister's singing. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
Of course it was terrible. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
We just fought, because I was much more musical than she was. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
I hated it and I made fun of her | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
and she was infuriated because I always played how she was singing. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:23 | |
But to learn the tricks at nine or ten, I mean, God bless her! | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
It was wonderful. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:28 | |
That gave me the sense to be an opera conductor, of course! | 0:14:28 | 0:14:32 | |
At the age of 12, he became a student | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
at the Franz Liszt Music Academy in Budapest | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
and his luck was to have a piano tutor who was a genius - | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
the composer, Bela Bartok. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
He knew Bartok and he was one of his best pupils | 0:14:46 | 0:14:52 | |
because he learned from Bartok so much that he could share | 0:14:52 | 0:14:57 | |
with thousands of other musicians, | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
and it was millions of people who came | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
and were able to hear how Bartok's music should be performed. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
Half a century after he left Hungary, | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
at Snape Maltings in Suffolk, | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
he was to work with the pianist Murray Perahia | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
and the percussionist Evelyn Glennie to record a piece by Bartok | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
that took him right back to those early musical experiences. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
MUSIC: "Sonata for Two Pianos and Percussion" by Bela Bartok | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
When I had the opportunity to work with him | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
on Bartok's Sonata for Two Pianos and Percussion, | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
I was a young, up-and-coming musician | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
and it was probably the biggest lesson in every respect | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
as far as being a professional musician is concerned. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:45 | |
-Maybe we're late. -I think so. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:53 | |
'That was a lot of hard work, it was very intense.' | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
It was two weeks of really almost gruelling rehearsals. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:02 | |
I was literally like a sponge. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
I was taking in... I can almost smell every note of that piece, | 0:16:08 | 0:16:14 | |
you know, because it meant something. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:16 | |
Here we go. One... | 0:16:16 | 0:16:18 | |
Bartok composed the Sonata in the early '30s | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
and Solti's connection with the piece was intimate. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
Bartok and his wife played the piece in the Budapest Opera. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:32 | |
I went to the performance because I wanted to hear the performance. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
And shortly before they started, somebody said, | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
"Would you please turn the page for Mrs Bartok?" | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
I couldn't say, "I can't read music," | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
so I went and turned the page for Mrs Bartok. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
I never had before in my life. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
And it was great excitement, very difficult to turn the page, | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
so if you're asking me "How did you like the piece?" | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
At that point, I don't know, I was too busy turning pages. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:59 | |
For Solti, now in his late 70s, these sessions were a test, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:04 | |
both of his pianistic skills honed by Bartok in childhood, | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
and a demonstration of his fidelity to the composer's intentions. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
I mean, that speed, just about, I can make it. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
Solti was so nervous before the first rehearsal with Murray | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
that he asked me to call Murray and say, "Murray, give me another day. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:24 | |
"I am still practising." | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
The next day, Murray Perahia called me and said, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
"Charles, please tell Georg I need one more day." | 0:17:28 | 0:17:32 | |
I can't play that bloody thing! | 0:17:32 | 0:17:34 | |
I can't find any fingering for it, I just...! | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
I didn't realise that it was so difficult and we were having | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
a lot of problems because it's a very demanding piece technically. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
I had wanted Chinese acrobatic fingers! Chinese acrobat! | 0:17:47 | 0:17:52 | |
'Lot of notes, lot of rhythm changes, | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
'hard to manage and hard to play.' | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
He was very attentive to tempo indications and tempo details, | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
always with a metronome. I remember him always | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
with this little metronome that he carried around. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
'Click, click.' | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
Some of the speed is practically impossible. It's so fast. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
You can't play it, you simply cannot play it in that speed, | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
but little slower it's working. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
We can't do it, neither he! | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
Cos there is an old record which I checked with a metronome. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
None of the speed is what he wrote, it's all slow, which is right. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:28 | |
METRONOME BEEPS | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
MUSIC BEGINS | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
Solti always believed that it was vital to pass on his experience | 0:18:34 | 0:18:39 | |
and be a mentor for new talent. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
'I admire this boy, he's such a fantastic musician. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
'I like him immensely,' | 0:18:46 | 0:18:47 | |
he's one of the most talented of the younger generation, | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
a wonderful, natural musician. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
'And I think he doesn't dislike me, so therefore we're playing together.' | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
Solti completed his studies in 1930 | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
and got work at the Hungarian State Opera House, | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
coaching singers and playing for rehearsals. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
Over the next few years, he'd make steady progress | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
towards his gleaming goal of becoming a conductor. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
In 1937, a big break. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
The Salzburg Festival and an assistant's job with a giant, | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
the Italian Arturo Toscanini. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
'I never seen him without a score, without working, without looking. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:48 | |
'He just worked all the time. And that, for me, that changed my life.' | 0:19:48 | 0:19:54 | |
I saw the point that without work, it wouldn't be anything and anywhere. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:59 | |
And since that point, I work. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:03 | |
The news of this boy working with Toscanini | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
made a great impression back home. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
Particularly in the Hungarian press. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
It gave me my big break, because until then, | 0:20:15 | 0:20:19 | |
no Jew had ever conducted in the Hungarian State Opera. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
My debut as an opera conductor was a performance | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
of Mozart's Marriage of Figaro, which I had to conduct with no rehearsal. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:46 | |
I came out here, you can imagine what a heartbeat was mine. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:53 | |
Double speed, I suppose. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
144 instead of 72, and started the overture. | 0:20:56 | 0:21:01 | |
I don't know how it started, but it started, | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
and I felt more and more inclined to feeling happy. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
It was the date of 11th of March 1938, | 0:21:12 | 0:21:17 | |
and I had no idea that on that night, | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
Hitler moved into Austria and the Anschluss began. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:26 | |
'I had a Jewish singer that night,' | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
who in the third act made one mistake after the other. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:36 | |
I don't know if he would be drunk. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
And I was very upset, cos I knew him well. Lendvay was his name. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:45 | |
I was very angry, "What the hell is he doing?!" | 0:21:45 | 0:21:49 | |
It turned out that in the intermission he knew it, | 0:21:50 | 0:21:55 | |
and he was very worried what will happen to him. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
This was a terrible night. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:01 | |
Now, Hungary was becoming | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
a progressively more uncomfortable place. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
The Fascist government was becoming more anti-Semitic | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
and the openings for Jews were shutting down one by one. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
So he goes to Lucerne Festival | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
and it's 1939 and war breaks out | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
and he gets a telegram from his mother saying "Don't come back," | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
and he is stranded in Switzerland without a work permit. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:30 | |
He was a refugee so he didn't have the right to work, | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
but he was given the chance to give piano lessons. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:38 | |
But I never for a second forgotten that I'm doing temporary business | 0:22:38 | 0:22:44 | |
and I don't know when, | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
because in '41 and '42, by God it didn't look very well. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:52 | |
God knows when I will conduct again! I never gave up that hope. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:56 | |
He then married Hedi Oechsli, who was his first wife, | 0:22:56 | 0:23:01 | |
who ran away from her family with him, sort of caused a great scandal. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:06 | |
She was actually pregnant with her second child | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
when she met Solti and fell in love with him | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
and that's a pretty astonishing story, | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
to actually leave your husband if you're actually pregnant | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
with one of his children, but she did. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
And she turned out to be the most marvellous support for him. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
With the end of the Second World War, Solti's exile | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
in Switzerland was over, and out of the blue, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
he was invited to help to rebuild German cultural life | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
from the ruins of war, | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
as the music director of the Bavarian Opera in Munich. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
People said, "How could he go to Germany?" | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
But it was all about moving forward. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
He had to survive as a person but also as a musician. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
I would go to Hell to work. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
I would feel like Goethe's Mephistopheles, a pact with Faust. | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
I would go anywhere. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
I would kill my grandfather, because I was starving for work. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
And what was wonderful, I received with open arms. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:11 | |
I was afraid. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:14 | |
I thought the Nazis were shooting and killing left and right. None of it. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:18 | |
First of all, in Germany, '46 was no more Nazis. Nobody was ever Nazi! | 0:24:18 | 0:24:23 | |
The others be Nazis! | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
Secondly, the young generation until today is very much on my side | 0:24:25 | 0:24:33 | |
because I was the first Jewish musician who went to Germany. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
The opera house that Solti inherited | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
had been virtually destroyed in an air raid in 1943. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
They had no costume, no sets, nothing. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
Everything was burnt except, I think it was | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
an old Fidelio, an old Fidelio set, it was there | 0:24:52 | 0:24:58 | |
and some other old opera, I think Hoffman. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
That was the repertory at first, Hoffman and Fidelio | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
because that was the only two pieces which were there. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
For Georg Solti, the musician | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
who'd only conducted one opera in his life, | 0:25:09 | 0:25:14 | |
it was the perfect opportunity. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
If I had arrived in opera house which has a normal repertory, | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
I couldn't cope with it. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:21 | |
I wouldn't have had time to learn the pieces, | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
but as every single opera had to be new study | 0:25:24 | 0:25:28 | |
I just got as much space to jump off the one single opera. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:33 | |
I was there six years, and I would think | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
about 25 or 26 operas I conducted, all the first time. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
And it was here, in Munich, | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
that Solti had one of the most significant encounters of his life. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
He met the composer Richard Strauss. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
In '47, he had his 85th birthday, | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
and for that occasion he came back to Germany. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
'I conducted my first Rosenkavalier in my life and he came to a rehearsal. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:58 | |
'They made some film, it still exists, a little film, | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
'in which he conducts the second act in Der Rosenkavalier. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
'I stand behind him.' | 0:26:05 | 0:26:06 | |
He asked, "Where are the horns?" I said, "Dr Strauss, there." "OK." | 0:26:09 | 0:26:13 | |
"Where are trumpets?" "There." "All right." | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
The old fox. When it came to cues, he couldn't see, | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
he couldn't hear, but the cue was there. Absolutely marvellous. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
'He asked me to come and visit his house. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:36 | |
'I went up to his house, 11 o'clock, enormous palpitation. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:40 | |
'He was wonderful. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:41 | |
'He immediately called me a colleague and talked business, shop, you know? | 0:26:41 | 0:26:47 | |
'I thought it was the greatest time of my life,' | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
I enjoyed the few hours with him immensely, enormously. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
And I would stay for ever, except his wife Pauline throw me out | 0:26:53 | 0:26:57 | |
and said, "Solti, you must go now. | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
"He must go to sleep." | 0:26:59 | 0:27:00 | |
But in very early September, the message came that he died. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:04 | |
It's a really enormously great distinction, | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
I played music for his funeral. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
He had one wish in his testament that said, | 0:27:11 | 0:27:16 | |
the Trio from the Rosenkavalier, he wants to hear that piece of music. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:20 | |
'An immense crowd, there was 100,000 people. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
'I never forget as long as I live, | 0:27:25 | 0:27:27 | |
'because we started all together and finally, I finished by myself | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
'because all the singers broke down, they couldn't sing. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
'The famous Pauline was broken down. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
'You barely recognised her and you know, two months later she died. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
'Without him, she couldn't live.' | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
Munich was a great triumph | 0:27:50 | 0:27:54 | |
and everybody thought that they'd never heard anything like me ever, | 0:27:54 | 0:27:58 | |
but within two, three years, it was quite obvious that | 0:27:58 | 0:28:04 | |
this young man has no experience, does everything the first time. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:08 | |
I didn't make any secret about it, but still, | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
it was something which began to be an irritation. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
And he managed to stick it, despite the fact | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
that he was a Jew in Catholic Bavaria | 0:28:16 | 0:28:18 | |
and whatever the Germans had learned, they hadn't learned | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
to forget about the instinctive suspicion of outsiders of any kind. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:26 | |
Not just because you're a Jew, but because you're not a Catholic, you're not Bavarian, | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
you can't be the right person to run the Munich Opera. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
His flair had been spotted, and early in the 1950s, | 0:28:35 | 0:28:39 | |
he moved to Frankfurt to help rebuild the opera company there. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:43 | |
International success was coming in spectacular fashion. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:48 | |
In 1958, he started the mammoth recording project | 0:28:50 | 0:28:54 | |
that would sell 100 million records | 0:28:54 | 0:28:56 | |
and establish him as a true innovator. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
'If you were a young conductor of talent in those days,' | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
somebody was going to come after you because they needed conductors, | 0:29:02 | 0:29:06 | |
they needed to record the whole classical repertoire | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
and there were a lot of record labels. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:10 | |
For seven years, he made regular visits to Vienna to work with | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
one of the pioneers in high fidelity recording. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
John Culshaw of Decca. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:21 | |
-That's on the luxury list, I think. -It is not more than the luxury list? | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
-Luxury list. -All right. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:28 | |
Culshaw had been a naval officer | 0:29:28 | 0:29:29 | |
and he entered Decca in the press department. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:33 | |
But he had a dream and a vision, | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
which was totally beyond the means of any record company at that time. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:40 | |
He said, "We are going to make a Ring Cycle - | 0:29:40 | 0:29:44 | |
"the whole of Wagner's Ring, all four operas. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:47 | |
"We're not going to record it off stage, but create it in-studio, | 0:29:47 | 0:29:51 | |
"so that the sound picture is going to be what people have in their living rooms, | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
"rather than some simulacrum with all the bumps and squeaks | 0:29:54 | 0:29:58 | |
"of what's going on on the stage of an opera house." | 0:29:58 | 0:30:02 | |
Right, OK. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:03 | |
SOLTI MIMICS HORN INTRO | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
HORNS SOUND | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
At the centre of it was this marvellous Solti, this athletic, | 0:30:10 | 0:30:15 | |
lithe, panther-like figure. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:17 | |
He was so fit - as you have to be to conduct these major works. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:20 | |
Ein, zwei...! | 0:30:20 | 0:30:22 | |
The elasticity... His body language was so beautiful. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
Combined with an intellectual rigour which had been instilled in him | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
over donkeys' years. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
Enorm, orchestra! Absolute enorm! | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
POWERFUL MUSICAL PASSAGE | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
And it took a long time to make. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:46 | |
And every single segment required board approval at Decca, | 0:30:46 | 0:30:50 | |
and it was always touch and go whether they'd finish, | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
and whether they'd get the right singers, | 0:30:53 | 0:30:55 | |
and whether the singers would walk out on them. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:57 | |
I know, I know what you mean. | 0:30:57 | 0:30:58 | |
-It has a transcendent quality. -Ja. -She is very far away. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
-She is no-more here. -Right, yeah. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:02 | |
SOLTI SINGS AND PLAYS NILSSON SINGS | 0:31:02 | 0:31:07 | |
Here you have to make over and over again | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
and have the same intensity all the time... | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
Without public and with many things that bothers you, | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
conductor very far away and... So, it's very difficult. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:21 | |
SHE SINGS WITH THE ORCHESTRA | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
Working with the Vienna Philharmonic did bring its own problems. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:44 | |
He was particularly polite to the Viennese | 0:31:44 | 0:31:46 | |
because he knew the Viennese were desperately anti-Semitic | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
and he wasn't going to be the one to open up the hostilities. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
-INTERCOM: -"Zigarettenpause, ja?" | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
He'd call them gentlemen and mein herren. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
"Zigarettenpause!" he'd say, if he wanted a break. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
Zigarettenpause. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:06 | |
I am afraid we are getting now too fast. And then I will kill you, | 0:32:09 | 0:32:13 | |
-because then you are guilty! -No, I promise you the tempo is right. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:17 | |
And the choice of Wagner's Ring had a heavy political resonance, | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
for a Hungarian Jew little more than 15 years after the end of the Second World War. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:27 | |
Because Hitler misabused that music. Very much. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
First, because he liked it, | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
and he went to Bayreuth. And every year went, | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
and thought something very special on it. But it's not Wagner's fault. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:40 | |
I do entirely believe they are great musical masterpieces, | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
and nothing to do with totalitarian fascism philosophy, at all. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:47 | |
At least, I don't see it. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:48 | |
SOLTI SINGS ALONG WITH ORCHESTRA | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
The recordings were a long struggle to approach perfection. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:56 | |
In afternoon sessions, they were a bit sleepy. They'd had a big lunch. | 0:32:56 | 0:33:00 | |
Who the hell want to play Gotterdammerung at two o'clock | 0:33:00 | 0:33:03 | |
having had five-course lunch? | 0:33:03 | 0:33:05 | |
I arrived at two o'clock full of ambition. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:11 | |
So many takes and takes and being never right, never right. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
So, between four and five, they awake, and it's marvellous, but I was dead! | 0:33:14 | 0:33:19 | |
Solti and Culshaw's 15-hour Ring Cycle, | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
released on 20 LPs from 1959 to 1966, was a landmark. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
All right, John. Let's do it. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
And still, half a century later, | 0:33:37 | 0:33:38 | |
retains its status as one of the great modern recordings. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:43 | |
The public response was so enormous, because it came out in stereo, | 0:33:55 | 0:34:00 | |
which was the latest thing. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
And everybody who had two speakers had to have this opera | 0:34:10 | 0:34:15 | |
to demonstrate the new technology they'd just brought into their house. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
And it sold and sold and sold, and it is, to this day, | 0:34:18 | 0:34:22 | |
still the best-selling classical record of all time. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
Solti was now in his early 50s. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
He was a recording star, and music director at the Royal Opera House. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:39 | |
But his marriage to Heidi was coming to an end. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
He moved out of their house in Kensington | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
and into a suite at the Savoy Hotel, | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
and there he met his second wife, the television presenter, Valerie Pitts. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:54 | |
I was doing an arts programme for the BBC. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:05 | |
They said, "Oh, yes, Dr Solti is waiting for you in his room." | 0:35:05 | 0:35:08 | |
I thought, "Ooh." | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
Yes, that's it. This is the door. There it is. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
And I stood here and I knocked. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
No reply. So I knocked again. And a voice said, "What do you want?" | 0:35:18 | 0:35:23 | |
And I said, I'm from the BBC, I've come to interview you. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:28 | |
And then there was total silence. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:29 | |
And shuffle, shuffle, shuffle. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:31 | |
About 30 seconds later, the door opened | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
and there was a sort of Rocky Marciano-Cassius Clay figure, | 0:35:34 | 0:35:39 | |
wrapped up in a bathrobe and towels, | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
opened the door and said, "Please come in, I will get dressed." | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
Disappeared back into the bathroom and then turned around | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
and said, "Please, could you find my socks?" | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
And came this rather beautiful lady, a sort of future | 0:35:51 | 0:35:55 | |
Miss America, or Miss UK, or something like that, not...BBC. | 0:35:55 | 0:36:00 | |
Because the BBC, for me, always represented old ladies. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:04 | |
Afterwards, we had a drink together and I dropped a clanger, | 0:36:04 | 0:36:07 | |
because I said to him, "You know, I'm awfully sorry | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
"but I really don't know much about opera, | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
"and I really don't enjoy it very much, | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
"because I once saw a terrible opera. It was Elektra in Frankfurt." | 0:36:15 | 0:36:22 | |
And his nose would twitch when he was... Which I... | 0:36:22 | 0:36:26 | |
And this sort of twitch of the nose... "My dear, what year was that?" | 0:36:26 | 0:36:30 | |
And I said which ever year it was. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:33 | |
And he said, "Thank you so very much. I was the conductor." | 0:36:33 | 0:36:37 | |
They married in 1967, and Solti decided that after nearly 20 years | 0:36:40 | 0:36:45 | |
as an opera conductor in Europe, | 0:36:45 | 0:36:47 | |
he would go west to the United States and concentrate on the concert repertoire. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:51 | |
He accepted an offer from the Chicago Symphony Orchestra. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:56 | |
He always said this was the greatest musical love relationship of my life. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:10 | |
And he looked on them as a partner. To that level. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:15 | |
We achieved, I think, a great thing. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
Out of this provincial orchestra | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
came one of the great orchestras of the world. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
He said, "They are SO marvellous, this orchestra. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
"They are wonderful." | 0:37:31 | 0:37:33 | |
And he felt the orchestra just made music | 0:37:33 | 0:37:35 | |
and had the same enthusiasm as he did. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:37 | |
When he arrived, Solti found the orchestra embroiled in a personality dispute. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:45 | |
He took it upon himself to resolve it. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
There had been certain members of this orchestra | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
who didn't talk to each other at all. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:57 | |
It suddenly was real, in which the first flute stood up and loudly said, | 0:37:58 | 0:38:04 | |
"I can't take that any more!" | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
And out went. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:08 | |
If I tolerate that, my days are numbered. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:13 | |
So I asked the two gentlemen to my room and I said to them, | 0:38:15 | 0:38:20 | |
very heartfelt, it was real... | 0:38:20 | 0:38:24 | |
"You either make peace right now here, in my presence, | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
"or I leave you immediately. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:29 | |
"You can look another man. I am not staying for a day longer." | 0:38:29 | 0:38:33 | |
And they knew I am not joking. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:36 | |
The flautist and the oboist settled their differences | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
and Solti's relationship with Chicago would last for a quarter of a century. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:48 | |
I love precision. I adore dynamics. I adore clarity and texture. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
I adore rhythmical precision. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
The sound actually gleamed in your ears. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
That was the Solti hallmark. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
This big brash, but very, very clean sound. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
He was now in his 60s. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:26 | |
And he and his new young family would spend six months a year in Chicago. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:31 | |
Chicago is a very young city. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
There were people from all over the world, so it was a great mixing pot. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:40 | |
There are many emigres. A, Hitler emigres. B, Russian emigres. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:47 | |
Lithuania, Estonia, and then Czech, | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
and then Hungarians. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:52 | |
The amalgamation is quite amazing. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:58 | |
This is now, of course, an American orchestra - very American outlook, | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
very American way of life - | 0:40:01 | 0:40:03 | |
but we're making, I think, very European way of music. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
Solti embraced America. They called him the Fastest Baton in the West. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:18 | |
And the citizens of Chicago loved the flamboyant personality | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
who brought so much status to their orchestra and the city. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
Chicago Symphony is considered as one of the finest in the world. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:30 | |
And Georg Solti... | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
I love all the wonderful soloists | 0:40:32 | 0:40:33 | |
and the orchestra sounds really marvellous. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:37 | |
When he wasn't conducting in Chicago, Solti would return regularly to the United Kingdom, | 0:40:44 | 0:40:48 | |
where, in the 1980s, he became principal conductor of the London Philharmonic Orchestra. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:53 | |
He used to come across and spend about three weeks to a month with us. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:04 | |
And every time he appeared, the fireworks started flying. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:08 | |
And sometimes he had problems communicating exactly what he wanted, and thus, | 0:41:19 | 0:41:23 | |
some people didn't get on with him. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:27 | |
They found him difficult to work with. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:29 | |
He encouraged me to make the sort of sound that I didn't want to make. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:35 | |
He changed the whole sound of the orchestra. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
We wanted to maintain the tradition of a beautiful English sound. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:46 | |
He definitely wanted us to make this terrible American type of sound. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:52 | |
Solti had the Chicago orchestra. | 0:41:57 | 0:41:59 | |
They played in the way that Solti wanted them to. And we didn't. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:03 | |
We're English. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:04 | |
He was bereft of any stick technique whatever. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:13 | |
And all he did, in my opinion, was get in the way | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
of what was supposed to be happening. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
He would've been the first to admit he couldn't really beat time | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
straightforwardly. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:24 | |
It was all passion. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:26 | |
His jerking and doing this kind of thing, | 0:42:26 | 0:42:29 | |
in the most flowing sort of music... And like...convulsions! | 0:42:29 | 0:42:35 | |
So it was a question of heads down and you'd be fine. You didn't look. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:39 | |
His technique is not particularly beautiful to watch, | 0:42:39 | 0:42:43 | |
but somehow, it did get the results. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:45 | |
Whether it was his left heel or his right elbow, I don't know! | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
On the stage, the dynamic, the electricity that was there... | 0:43:05 | 0:43:10 | |
Every single concert that he did was an event. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:13 | |
Solti was a one-off. He was unique. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:17 | |
This is Castiglione in Tuscany, | 0:43:24 | 0:43:26 | |
in Italy. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:28 | |
Here, in the early '60s, | 0:43:31 | 0:43:32 | |
Solti bought a villa which, for 35 years, would be his summer home. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:36 | |
It was a total symbol for him, really. | 0:43:40 | 0:43:43 | |
And he once said to me, | 0:43:43 | 0:43:45 | |
"You know, I just feel I've been here in another life." | 0:43:45 | 0:43:49 | |
And when he first brought me down here, | 0:43:49 | 0:43:51 | |
he said, "Look at this red soil. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:52 | |
"The soil is like that in Hungary." | 0:43:52 | 0:43:55 | |
So I think, in a way, | 0:43:55 | 0:43:56 | |
it replaced his Hungarian home, emotionally, for him. | 0:43:56 | 0:44:01 | |
And it was the first house he had. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:03 | |
The first thing he owned. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:05 | |
And the place where could really have tranquillity. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:08 | |
Solti would come here every year, and stop. In this place. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:15 | |
With the cicadas talking. Stop and think. | 0:44:15 | 0:44:19 | |
It takes me, in the summer holidays, at least four weeks | 0:44:19 | 0:44:24 | |
when music, as such, gets out of my bloodstream. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:27 | |
It is a pulse which you all the time feel. | 0:44:27 | 0:44:31 | |
It is a certain... Either a motif or a rhythmical microcosm, | 0:44:31 | 0:44:36 | |
something all the time vibrates in your nervous system. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:40 | |
And he would come down here for six weeks, sometimes for two months, | 0:44:40 | 0:44:44 | |
and for the first part of it, he'd have a rest | 0:44:44 | 0:44:48 | |
and then the second bit, he'd start working. | 0:44:48 | 0:44:50 | |
And he might do an hour a day... and then two hours. | 0:44:50 | 0:44:54 | |
And that's how he paced himself, | 0:44:54 | 0:44:56 | |
till he was then working half the day. | 0:44:56 | 0:44:58 | |
But, even so, he would still go down for his swim...or his walk. | 0:44:58 | 0:45:04 | |
And he might play tennis in the morning as well. | 0:45:04 | 0:45:07 | |
And he'd certainly go off on his bicycle to collect the newspaper. | 0:45:07 | 0:45:11 | |
So, his day-to-day life was very disciplined. | 0:45:11 | 0:45:16 | |
All his life was really concentrated... | 0:45:16 | 0:45:19 | |
on the performance or the studying. | 0:45:19 | 0:45:22 | |
And he once said, | 0:45:22 | 0:45:23 | |
"You know, musicians, particularly conductors, | 0:45:23 | 0:45:27 | |
"are the servants of the composer, not the other way round." | 0:45:27 | 0:45:34 | |
THEY ALL SING IN ITALIAN | 0:45:34 | 0:45:37 | |
And, you see, every morning, | 0:45:37 | 0:45:39 | |
he woke up and was thrilled that he was making music. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:42 | |
And he was very grateful for that, | 0:45:42 | 0:45:44 | |
that he'd had the opportunity to make music. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:47 | |
He was very, very generous | 0:45:47 | 0:45:50 | |
and he wanted to share it all the time. | 0:45:50 | 0:45:53 | |
Here in Castiglione, | 0:45:55 | 0:45:56 | |
the Solti Foundation and the Solti Academy perpetuate Sir Georg's ideals | 0:45:56 | 0:46:01 | |
by offering real support to talented young musicians. | 0:46:01 | 0:46:05 | |
He never forgot what it was like to be poor and to be struggling. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:11 | |
And, therefore, always gave this sometimes financial helping hand to youngsters who needed it. | 0:46:11 | 0:46:19 | |
All his life, Solti had seized every opportunity to introduce new talent to wider audiences. | 0:46:46 | 0:46:52 | |
And he found a powerful, natural ally in television. | 0:46:52 | 0:46:57 | |
We brought him into the studio at Television Centre | 0:47:03 | 0:47:06 | |
to play a piece he hadn't played for 40 years | 0:47:06 | 0:47:10 | |
and make a half-hour programme about it. | 0:47:10 | 0:47:12 | |
The Mozart G Minor Piano Quartet. | 0:47:12 | 0:47:14 | |
It was a maestro saying, "Here are three young people. We're going to play Mozart." | 0:47:17 | 0:47:21 | |
"This is how chamber music is made." | 0:47:21 | 0:47:24 | |
In 1981, when I was 24, the word Solti rang all the bells. | 0:47:25 | 0:47:30 | |
So to be given a call to play chamber music with Solti | 0:47:30 | 0:47:33 | |
was like getting a summons from God. | 0:47:33 | 0:47:36 | |
And I didn't even know he played the piano. Ha! | 0:47:36 | 0:47:38 | |
He was incredibly kind. And encouraging. | 0:47:46 | 0:47:51 | |
At one point, I made a mistake, I came in too late, | 0:47:51 | 0:47:53 | |
and then just tweaked it and did a naughty boy, "Nobody noticed that." | 0:47:53 | 0:47:59 | |
And then out of the corner of my eye, I saw Solti back off from the piano like this. | 0:47:59 | 0:48:05 | |
And this big grin came over his face. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:08 | |
He looked at me and I thought, "Hmm!" | 0:48:08 | 0:48:10 | |
Never mind. That's OK. | 0:48:10 | 0:48:12 | |
Maybe I'm too soon. Let's hear... | 0:48:12 | 0:48:15 | |
Yes. Yes! | 0:48:15 | 0:48:17 | |
Yes. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:19 | |
-A small point... -Of course, I can do it with one. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:23 | |
Two hands is better. Cos you never really enjoy yourself... | 0:48:23 | 0:48:27 | |
He's in charge but not dominating. | 0:48:27 | 0:48:29 | |
It's quite a different atmosphere here than when he's on the podium. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:34 | |
Cos as he says, | 0:48:34 | 0:48:36 | |
"In conducting, somebody has to make the decisions when you've got 120 people." | 0:48:36 | 0:48:41 | |
"But in chamber music, you must throw that out of the window. Everybody has to agree." | 0:48:41 | 0:48:45 | |
Solti's willingness to let the cameras into his life | 0:48:47 | 0:48:50 | |
produced some classic, revealing programmes. | 0:48:50 | 0:48:53 | |
In 1990, we persuaded Kiri and Solti | 0:48:55 | 0:48:58 | |
to do The Maestro And The Diva, it was called. | 0:48:58 | 0:49:01 | |
And in that lovely studio of his, | 0:49:01 | 0:49:04 | |
we saw him rehearsing a set of Strauss songs. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:06 | |
SHE SINGS IN GERMAN | 0:49:08 | 0:49:13 | |
He loved the human voice and he loved singers, | 0:49:17 | 0:49:19 | |
particularly the soprano voice. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:22 | |
And Solti and her were bouncing off each other, | 0:49:22 | 0:49:26 | |
they were flirting outrageously. | 0:49:26 | 0:49:27 | |
The camera, I suppose, had something to do with that, | 0:49:27 | 0:49:30 | |
but I suspect they flirted outrageously even when the camera wasn't running. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:34 | |
I'd swap your fingers any time for my voice. | 0:49:34 | 0:49:37 | |
Oh, come on! Come on! I make a big... | 0:49:37 | 0:49:40 | |
I can play! I can play till 78, instead of retiring at 50! | 0:49:40 | 0:49:45 | |
I loved it that he was naughty, but that was the colour of him. | 0:49:45 | 0:49:50 | |
There should be no secret about it. | 0:49:50 | 0:49:52 | |
He had that incredible twinkle in his eye. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:55 | |
He was always looking at the girls. | 0:49:55 | 0:49:57 | |
Which ones he chose, I don't know, but he was that sort of person. | 0:49:57 | 0:50:03 | |
And you loved him | 0:50:03 | 0:50:04 | |
because he was such a gentleman and he treated you like a woman. | 0:50:04 | 0:50:08 | |
I must say that it is the highlights of my career, truly. | 0:50:08 | 0:50:12 | |
If you would know how much I curse myself. | 0:50:12 | 0:50:14 | |
And so when he spoke to you, it was like his nose was right on your nose. | 0:50:14 | 0:50:17 | |
Before I came to... Then you would understand why I never like anything. | 0:50:17 | 0:50:22 | |
-It's the only way to improve! -Of course. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:24 | |
That's the way he spoke. | 0:50:24 | 0:50:26 | |
And if he spat on you, you tried to avoid spittle and stuff. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:30 | |
SHE SINGS IN ITALIAN | 0:50:31 | 0:50:34 | |
Kiri is not difficult, absolutely not. | 0:50:41 | 0:50:44 | |
She is a good collaborator and listens to me. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:47 | |
Kiri is a little bit my girl. | 0:50:47 | 0:50:51 | |
Oh, he was always The Maestro. Yeah. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:55 | |
The man himself, Sir Georg Solti. | 0:50:55 | 0:50:58 | |
-APPLAUSE -In his later years, he became a familiar face on television. | 0:50:58 | 0:51:02 | |
Sir Georg Solti, welcome to Going Live. | 0:51:02 | 0:51:05 | |
Here with his wife, Lady Valerie, Sir Georg Solti. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:08 | |
-APPLAUSE -His ease in front of the cameras, with that powerful charisma, | 0:51:08 | 0:51:13 | |
turned him into something of a national treasure. | 0:51:13 | 0:51:15 | |
One climax was a remarkable broadcast in 1992. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:20 | |
Good evening from The Royal Opera House, Covent Garden. | 0:51:20 | 0:51:23 | |
And welcome to a gala night. It's a celebration of the 80th birthday of Sir Georg Solti. | 0:51:23 | 0:51:28 | |
Their Royal Highnesses the Prince and Princess of Wales | 0:51:28 | 0:51:31 | |
will be here for a performance of one of Verdi's greatest operas, Otello. | 0:51:31 | 0:51:36 | |
The last performance with him was Otello in Covent Garden. | 0:51:37 | 0:51:41 | |
He was a really great, great musician. | 0:51:41 | 0:51:45 | |
He was a very, very active and expressive conductor. | 0:51:51 | 0:51:55 | |
But I like that we lived the passion of the music together. | 0:51:55 | 0:51:59 | |
And there was no doubt with Sir Georg, | 0:51:59 | 0:52:02 | |
there was no way that you cannot get contagious by his enthusiasm. | 0:52:02 | 0:52:08 | |
HE SINGS IN ITALIAN | 0:52:10 | 0:52:13 | |
It is the most musical Otello you can imagine. | 0:52:40 | 0:52:43 | |
Placido is a wonderful musician. I love working with him, | 0:52:43 | 0:52:48 | |
because he's as precise a musician as I am. | 0:52:48 | 0:52:50 | |
And that makes life so easy. | 0:52:50 | 0:52:53 | |
And the personification of Otello is really wonderful. | 0:52:53 | 0:52:59 | |
THEY BOTH SING IN ITALIAN | 0:52:59 | 0:53:01 | |
He really loved music. | 0:53:16 | 0:53:19 | |
He was demanding, but at the same time, | 0:53:19 | 0:53:22 | |
at the same time, very much happy with the results, you know. | 0:53:22 | 0:53:27 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:53:27 | 0:53:29 | |
Being his 80th birthday, it was a very special occasion, | 0:53:29 | 0:53:33 | |
so we sang happy birthday to him. | 0:53:33 | 0:53:36 | |
# Happy birthday, dear Maestro | 0:53:36 | 0:53:39 | |
# Happy birthday to you... # | 0:53:39 | 0:53:43 | |
To have such great colleagues there | 0:53:43 | 0:53:45 | |
as Birgit Nilsson and, of course, Kiri, it was a great celebration. | 0:53:45 | 0:53:51 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:53:51 | 0:53:52 | |
His 80th birthday was also marked by a surprise concert at Buckingham Palace, | 0:53:52 | 0:53:58 | |
which brought together 13 musicians from the 13 different orchestras that he had conducted that year. | 0:53:58 | 0:54:04 | |
It would inspire Solti with the last great idea of his life. | 0:54:06 | 0:54:13 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:54:28 | 0:54:29 | |
For this Hungarian Jew, who had helped to reconstruct German cultural life after the war, | 0:54:35 | 0:54:40 | |
had turned Covent Garden in London into a world stage, | 0:54:40 | 0:54:45 | |
had conquered America, | 0:54:45 | 0:54:48 | |
and raised orchestral standards to new levels across the globe, | 0:54:48 | 0:54:52 | |
it was entirely fitting | 0:54:52 | 0:54:53 | |
that in celebration of the 50th anniversary of the foundation of the United Nations, | 0:54:53 | 0:54:57 | |
he would form his first orchestra, The World Orchestra For Peace. | 0:54:57 | 0:55:04 | |
It was done on a one-to-one basis. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:06 | |
When he found a player who he thought was wonderful, | 0:55:06 | 0:55:09 | |
he would call him or her to the dressing room and say, "I have this crazy idea!" | 0:55:09 | 0:55:15 | |
"We will meet in Geneva in six months time, we will make a concert for peace!" | 0:55:15 | 0:55:20 | |
"Will you come?" Of course, everybody said yes. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:23 | |
And I couldn't have a most wonderful thing to say, | 0:55:23 | 0:55:27 | |
except to say that all my musician friends, in that quality, | 0:55:27 | 0:55:31 | |
coming without any fee, amazing! | 0:55:31 | 0:55:34 | |
But, of course, that's not enough. | 0:55:34 | 0:55:37 | |
We must make also amazing music. | 0:55:37 | 0:55:39 | |
Let's go. | 0:55:39 | 0:55:40 | |
He was a man with character, with a lot of fire. | 0:55:51 | 0:55:55 | |
And this fire was immediately... | 0:55:55 | 0:55:59 | |
Everything is set on fire around him. | 0:55:59 | 0:56:01 | |
So he was, in a way, the keeper of the fire. | 0:56:01 | 0:56:05 | |
All my life, I've grown up in wars, in revolution. | 0:56:10 | 0:56:16 | |
Both Fascists and Communists... | 0:56:16 | 0:56:20 | |
taught me passionately to believe in peace. | 0:56:20 | 0:56:24 | |
He was passionate about international cooperation | 0:56:27 | 0:56:32 | |
and people's understanding of each other to break down the barriers. | 0:56:32 | 0:56:36 | |
We had world leaders from everywhere. | 0:56:37 | 0:56:40 | |
And I remember the security looking into the audience and seeing | 0:56:40 | 0:56:45 | |
the two sides of the Middle East conflict | 0:56:45 | 0:56:48 | |
surrounded by guns. | 0:56:48 | 0:56:50 | |
And then at the end of the concert...both sides smiling. | 0:56:50 | 0:56:56 | |
This was the only time that Solti would conduct his World Orchestra For Peace. | 0:57:03 | 0:57:09 | |
In 1997, he died suddenly of a heart attack, | 0:57:09 | 0:57:13 | |
a month before his 85th birthday. | 0:57:13 | 0:57:16 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:57:20 | 0:57:22 | |
But Georg Solti's humanitarian ideal lives on. | 0:57:22 | 0:57:27 | |
And every year, the World Orchestra For Peace reassemble under the baton of Valery Gergiev. | 0:57:27 | 0:57:33 | |
It's a demonstration of the power of music. | 0:57:33 | 0:57:35 | |
We musicians know how to act, we just have to bring together colleagues, friends, artists, | 0:57:35 | 0:57:41 | |
hopefully from very different conflicting countries. | 0:57:41 | 0:57:46 | |
It should help cement this process of making peace, peace, peace, lasting peace. | 0:57:46 | 0:57:52 | |
But it was Sir Georg Solti who started here this vision. | 0:57:52 | 0:57:57 | |
He didn't believe in organised religion, | 0:57:57 | 0:58:00 | |
but he did believe in the pattern of life. | 0:58:00 | 0:58:05 | |
You must be aware of your blessings. And if you have problems, you must never give up. | 0:58:20 | 0:58:27 | |
That was his thing, never give up. | 0:58:27 | 0:58:29 | |
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