Ray Reardon at 80


Ray Reardon at 80

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Relaxed...cool,

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just waiting for the world title.

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At the table, taking the last four balls

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is a former champion on five occasions,

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Welshman Ray Reardon.

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There you go.

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I've still got it.

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And there it goes.

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Throughout the 1970s, Ray Reardon dominated the world of snooker.

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He won the World Championship six times.

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The game became hugely popular on television

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and he was its biggest star.

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CHEERING

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-What is the fascination of this game to you?

-It's colourful.

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It's artistic. You can...should...

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or try to make the white ball do what you want it to do.

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Oh, it's ambiguous.

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How do you mean, ambiguous?

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One day you can do everything, and another day you can do nothing.

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-You know, it's as frustrating as it is fascinating.

-Yes.

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The tough competitor with the twinkling eyes had been shaped

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by his early years in the South Wales valleys,

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where he was born in 1932.

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Tredegar, where I was born, what a lovely little place.

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It had a population of roughly about 15,000, I suppose, in those days.

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And going back to 90 in the mid '40s, if you like.

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This is where it all happened, right behind me,

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number 57, Whitworth Terrace. My word,

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that's going back a few years.

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As I look down here, I can see there's all sun patios and everything out here.

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They must be expecting hot weather sometime in any case.

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But that's nice because this is where it all happened, where I learned to play.

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I made my own little footballs out of pieces of paper

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and marbles and the usual games that kids do.

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And Uncle Dan who came to live with us later on was a master chess player.

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He was the one who got me going in the world of billiards and snooker.

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He got me a small 3 by 2 billiard table

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and we played with balls that wouldn't go in the pocket.

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And he said you want smaller ones, like little marbles.

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And as a result they went in the pocket, and if it works

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and you make them go in the pocket, it encourages you to play more.

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And all the other brothers took me to the billiard hall

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and it was absolutely magic.

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I tell you what, these steps didn't used to be there at the start of it.

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It makes it very hard these days coming up here.

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That was just a run down there, there was nothing,

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there was no road, this was just mountain.

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And just up there, we used to be in the mud,

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we used to dig holes in the mountain, where we used to put seats in it,

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have a pipe coming out...

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Cooked some nice jacket potatoes.

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Smoke paper, brown paper.

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Naughty, isn't it?

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I remember your face like it was yesterday.

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But names, well, I can't remember what happened yesterday sometimes, can I?

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-There's not many of us left.

-There isn't at all.

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They said they were going to come and find people, and here you've turned up.

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How wonderful, isn't that fantastic? Next-door neighbour.

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70 bloody years ago and he wants me to remember his name.

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I can't remember what happened yesterday.

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Sometimes I forget my own name.

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See how Tredegar has changed over the years.

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Going into the '70s and '80s, it really changed.

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And as I'm walking up Castle Street here, and I look down at

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the clock tower in the middle there, that used to be the bus station.

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All the bus stops, wherever you wanted to go, were parked around the clock.

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And there was pubs on the corner,

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everything evolved around it,

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it was a hive of activity. I look down here today and I see it

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boarded up here, closed there, nothing here, the buses are no more.

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And I thought how sad this is. What do people do these days?

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Ray Reardon is a highly intelligent person

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who still regrets not having enough education.

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But he passed up the chance to go to grammar school, following his father

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down the pit at 14, and free to pursue his passion for snooker.

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Of course, going down the mines,

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you just followed in your father's footsteps, really.

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You didn't know the dangers or the pitfalls that were there.

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You didn't realise what type of hard, hazardous life,

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risky life, it was going to be

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because of the fact that you followed in your dad's footsteps.

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If it's safe for him, it's safe for me.

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And of course I started off, as you say, 14 years of age, 1946,

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I started in Ty Trist.

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And when you go onto the coal face, you're assigned to a collier.

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You become the assistant, for want of a better word.

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I went with a guy, he was a scrat.

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In other words, he was mean and he put me above all people with him.

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So the first week I worked my socks off,

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expecting to get a decent pocket money.

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I would say a decent pocket money would be something like a pound.

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£1.25p.

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He gave me 50p.

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Very disappointed.

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So the following week, I'd still been assigned to him,

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I didn't work so hard that week.

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Eventually, I was there by myself.

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So I became a coal hewer, at an early age of 16.

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My money went up

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and suddenly I'm earning something like three pounds a week.

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I went home with three pounds a week, in something like 1948.

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It helped my snooker. I could play more games of snooker.

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It would take a bit of pressure away, you know.

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The young Reardon's game developed steadily in the snooker halls of Tredegar,

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especially the Workmen's Institute, with its seven tables.

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Then, at the age of 16, he made it through to the Youth Championship of Great Britain,

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an all-Welsh final between Ray Reardon of Tredegar and Jack Carney of Pontardawe.

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We go to Langham House, the BBC,

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Sports Report on a Saturday.

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Introduced by Angus Mackay. Do you remember Sports Report?

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# Brump a dum, brump a dum... #

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And here I am in Langham House!

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We got up to the top tower where he is, and you go into this huge room

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and there's an enormous mic hanging down from the ceiling

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like a Lord Haw-Haw mic, when he used to broadcast over the war.

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And there he is, and he's talking to the viewers and he says,

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"We've got an all-Welsh final of the Youth Championship of Great Britain

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"and in the final we've got Jack Carney of Pontardawe and Ray Reardon of Tredegar.

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"Tredegar," he says. "Ebbw Vale, that's the one," he says, "that's where Nye Bevan was born."

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He doesn't know where Nye Bevan was born. He was born in Tredegar.

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Ebbw Vale was his constituency,

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so here I am, 16 years of age,

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from now on I'm not going to trust any interviewer at all, because they don't know anything.

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APPLAUSE

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I don't believe it.

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Are there certain shots that are foolproof?

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-Those are very easy, as you can see, first time.

-That's amazing.

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Are there any shots that are foolproof

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in the sense that a fool like myself can do them?

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Oh, yes, I can set you up with a shot that you can do yourself.

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-Would you like to try one?

-I would, sir. Let me get a cue.

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Get a cue.

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LAUGHTER

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They set me up for that.

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These days, the hub of the game in Tredegar is the Mark Williams Snooker Club.

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Ray visits the club on a day when he's one of three world champions on view around the tables.

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There's the club's owner, of course, and the great Stephen Hendry,

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who's practising with Mark.

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And there's even another local hero on hand - an old friend of Ray's.

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It's Doug Mountjoy.

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I haven't seen Doug for years and it's nice to see him back in the game again.

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And one of the reasons why he's come back in the game again is because of

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the conditions that they have here at Mark's club.

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I remember coming here five, seven years ago,

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and I can assure you, it was the pits.

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It was awful, it was disgusting.

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So the effort they've put in to make this as it is now has been tremendous,

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it's been enormous.

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And you can see, you've got young people in here of 8, 10, 12, 14 years of age.

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This is where the business of the game starts, you know.

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I learnt to play in Tredegar Workmen's Institute,

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which is not far from here, just in town.

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And when I was there, all my ambition was to become champion of the club.

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And I'm sure these young, aspiring players,

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that should be their aim, to be champion of the Mark Williams Club.

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Bearing in mind that I had two shillings a week pocket money,

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and it was thruppence a game,

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so loser pays.

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So you could have eight games of snooker for two shillings.

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But if you lost them all, you're skint for the week.

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So you'd better learn to play quick or take up something else.

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All your other players, your mates as you'd call them,

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on a Saturday night they'd say to me, "Ray,

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"we're going to go to the dance hall at Herbie Jones in Tredegar here.

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"But first we'll have a couple of pints.

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"We'll meet at seven o'clock around the clock tower."

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And I would say, "Which pub are you going to use?

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"The Punch House, the Golden Lion, the Cambrian," and they'd say,

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"No, we're going to the Punch House, have a game of snooker and darts, a few pints and a game of pool."

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And I said, "I'll be there at nine o'clock."

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Because I will come here, into the billiard hall,

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and have two hours' practice, then I'd pick them up,

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have a game of darts, have a few pints and go to the dance hall,

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look for a girl, as you know.

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And so I missed out on nothing.

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Being a miner did have a lot of influence on my snooker career.

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Merely the fact that you play with all these working-class people.

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They were so supportive of you and you didn't realise it

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until you went back down the pit the next day and everybody would be asking,

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"How did you get on yesterday? Did you win?"

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"No, I lost, but I'll get him next time."

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And that helped my attitude to snooker, to make me more competitive.

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Ray's snooker was thriving,

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but the pits of South Wales were going into serious decline.

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The young miner went to the Midlands to find work.

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You could make a living there, but the pit was still a dangerous place.

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Something serious happened to me in the mines.

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And that changed my life altogether really, because I got buried.

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And when you're buried in the mines,

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you're under about four or five tonnes of rubble

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and you can't move a muscle and you're doubled over, and you can feel

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your blood going out of your system, you open your mouth to breathe

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and all the particles of dust goes into your mouth

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and you think I mustn't do that, I must breathe through my nose.

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And my blood pressure was soaring

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and I had to concentrate on something.

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And I was lucky to have a brother who was 17 years younger than I,

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brother Ron, and I played marbles with him in my mind.

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Thousands of games of marbles.

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And eventually I got my blood pressure right down, I nearly stopped by heart rate,

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I got it down low and I survived.

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So I said, "I don't think I'm worried about a game of snooker,

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"there's other things in life, it's not the end of the world, a game of snooker."

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But it's so essential to those who play it.

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-It's been a pleasure.

-Any time, Ray.

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We've seen Doug over there, we've had a word with him.

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Full of legends in here today.

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After being buried alive in the pits, Ray Reardon left coal mining in the late 1950s.

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Education and experience hadn't prepared him

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for any other career, but he hit on the idea of the police force.

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The training regime came as a bit of a shock.

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It was unbelievable, the guy in charge of the keep-fit -

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don't forget, I'd been down the mines for 11 years,

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I'm not going to be fit, I can't have, in those conditions.

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Anyhow, I'm at the college

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and on the Wednesday they went on a three-mile run.

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For the first 150 yards, I'm all right.

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Then, after that, I walked.

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So I'm going to walk three miles, it's going to take me an hour and a quarter, hour and a half.

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So when I got back, he's still there.

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I go to gate, and he goes click.

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He said, "PC Reardon," he said, "You're not going to become a policeman."

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And I looked at the sergeant and said,

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"I'm going to become a policeman." He said, "How do you make that out?"

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I said, "When I'm out on the beat and I get a call

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"to go down to trouble at a pub somewhere, I'll walk down.

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"By the time I get there, they'll have hit holy hell out of each other, and I just pick them up."

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He said, "I think you may become a policeman."

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And of course, I continued my snooker.

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In fact, I achieved my ambition of winning the English Amateur Championship in 1963/64,

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whilst I was in the police force.

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And then later on, some good luck came to me

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to go on a tour of South Africa.

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As a result of that, of course, I eventually turned professional.

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And then along came colour television.

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Pot Black was a sudden-death competition, which transformed

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the fortunes of snooker.

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But taking part was a risky venture for Ray,

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who hadn't long turned professional.

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What if I take part in Pot Black?

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It's a one-frame knockout, sudden death, and you lose in the first round.

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So you don't pot many balls.

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And you're try to sell yourself by advertising, sending circulars

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out to clubs, to secretaries.

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They see this Pot Black, and you've gone out first round

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and you haven't scored anything and they say, "We don't want him in our club."

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That's a very dodgy, that's very risky. So I took the risk.

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I was one of the lucky ones because I won the first one.

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In 1969. And I'd have to change my career.

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The 1970s saw the World Championship become a big TV event.

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The long, intense battles of these snooker finals were perfect for Reardon.

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He was a great potter, but he also had the gritty determination

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and the tactical skill you needed to win.

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CHEERING

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But above all, Ray Reardon was an entertainer.

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In the '70s and '80s, the snooker calendar wasn't jammed with tournaments.

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So Ray spent the summers on the holiday camp circuit,

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entertaining the crowds with his repertoire of trick shots.

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And an invitation to all-comers to have a go with a world champion.

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Snooker has transformed itself

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since those early days of celebrity in the '70s.

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It's fast, dynamic and full of appeal to young and old alike.

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It certainly appeals to Ray Reardon,

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who relishes the new style of the game.

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Coming to the Welsh Open, I love that, especially in Newport.

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It's great to see the passion for the game still strong in Wales.

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Thank you. Thanks, Ray.

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I like just slipping into the auditorium when it's empty.

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Before the crowds come.

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It's great to get a feeling for the space, it's like theatre really.

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And for a long time, it was my stage and I loved every moment.

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At the moment, I'm just absorbing what is here,

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what I can use for myself when I'm playing.

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I mean, where we are now, we've got an empty arena.

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Imagine it full.

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You can imagine goose pimples coming on your face

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and up the back of your arm, and I look around and I think,

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"Wow, this is going to be something today!"

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And then I want to just get the general feeling of how far I am away from the audience.

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I don't like to be too far.

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If possible, I like to communicate with them in some way, shape or form.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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This tells me which pocket to play, which is more friendly than the other one.

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Just by general looking at it, feeling it.

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It's a world of experience which tells you...

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that I'd be better potting them up there than in here,

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and I'd be better potting them in there than in here.

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It favours you fractionally, marginally. I'm talking...

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Oh, a 128th of an inch or something, you know.

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Something infinitesimal, really.

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I now look where the cameras are.

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I know there will be three of them.

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There'll be one coming down the table, elongated sort of thing.

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And you'll have two coming down as far as the middle pocket, I suppose.

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That's very general. And I want to know where they are

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for my purpose, not for their purpose.

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Here is a media which I'm going to exploit.

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I'm going to sell myself to the public just by doing various things.

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Where I twaddle my ear or pinch my nose,

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or go in your pockets for a bit of chalk or something, adjust your tie.

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I'm doing it to attract attention,

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that they will focus on me rather than him.

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I mean, this is free.

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Sell yourself. I mean, you've got to pay a lot of money

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to get on television. I can do it for nothing.

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You're aware of it, you know.

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You make sure that the cameras will find you.

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Because when you get up, they're not expecting you to get up.

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Get on him, where's he going, what's he doing?

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What's he doing over there?

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And suddenly they become aware of this person here.

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I mean...a bit of mileage in you, isn't there?

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And you've just got to exploit it, I'm afraid.

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Sometimes you may have heard...

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or people may have heard one of the commentators say,

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"My God, he's gone into the zone by the look of him."

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In other words, he's not aware of anything that's going on around him.

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When he's playing in this sort of form,

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you can't afford to let him in with reds spread all over the table like this.

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He's right in with... like if the balls are his.

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And he's nurturing them,

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and I'm going to take you on, come with me and do this.

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And they do exactly as he says. It's wonderful.

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And it isn't very often you go into that zone,

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but when you get in there...

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Oh, I can't explain it, it's... You never miss anything,

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your positional play is accurate, it's spot-on,

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within inches of where you want it to go, nothing is difficult.

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And you're playing so well that even if you did make

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a bit of a loose shot, you're playing so well

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that you can recover from it because you're on form, as they say.

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-You're looking well.

-Amazing, isn't it?

-Bloody hell. How old are you now?

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I shouldn't say, that's a bit rude, really.

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I'll be 80 in October, let's put it that way.

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Yeah, you don't look a day over 60, love.

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He's a flatterer.

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Do you still get the buzz when you walk out

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and you see the arena glistening, ready to go?

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You're bound to really, aren't you?

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It's always changing, but it's changing for the good.

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I've only put one tweet out today, and look, there it is. How's that?

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-And I've got a plug there.

-That's the only tweet...

-I've got a plug

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-on the Facebook. What do you think of that?

-Hi, boss.

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Surely, you'd say the word "legend" is grossly overused in sport.

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But for a man of that stature and character and personality

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and warmth, legend is the right word, isn't it?

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-That table was so fast.

-It was, wasn't it? Lightning.

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You just rolled out and it kept rolling.

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And you only get this limited time.

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I think the thing that Ray developed first, more than any other player,

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he dominated the table.

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Even if he wasn't actually on the table playing,

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he kind of had an aura, walked around the table, laughing with the crowd.

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All of a sudden, you're almost frightened to play against him sometimes.

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"Oh, it's Ray Reardon at the table, I'll wait till he gets away from the table before I come to the table."

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He had that wonderful aura about him.

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He'd give you a steely look sometimes if he thought

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you'd played a foul and you didn't admit it or something like that.

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He'd give you the eyeball.

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So everything was precise with Ray, everything had to be done right.

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All on the last two balls then.

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The little forced smile sometimes, I knew it wasn't always

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the happy-go-lucky, jovial chappie he portrayed sometimes because he was a...

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I'm just trying to think of the right word.

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He was a gritty, determined character,

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that was the thing about Ray.

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Yes.

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'Do your remember I played you in Pontins?

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'I was English amateur champion,'

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and the amateurs qualified and played against the pros.

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And you got starts there.

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Anyway, the draws come out and who have I drawn?

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Ray Reardon, the world champion. I was absolutely thrilled, honestly.

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Just what you needed.

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The good news was, we were playing next morning at half past ten,

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which, as you know, you had a reputation of not being very good in the morning.

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-I like them thinking that.

-I'm getting up, I'm thinking 25 start.

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-Hey-hey!

-I like that, I like that.

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Anyway, I won one frame on the black when I cleared up. I got a 25 start.

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To be honest with you, I did not see you. You gave me a lesson, right.

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-And I understood that.

-But you need that.

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But what you told me afterwards always stayed with me.

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I said you played really well, Ray, and the words you said to me was...

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.."Played well? I had to play well to beat you, giving you 25 start."

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Well, I felt ten foot high.

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Honestly, I've gone from being on the floor like that.

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It was a very nice thing for you to say

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because I've learned from it, I learned from what you'd done to me.

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It's so important, isn't it, really?

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I think six times champion of the world is a wonderful achievement,

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and what I see about great champions is

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they always seem to find something at the right time in the match.

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It doesn't have to be the last frame,

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-but you find something when you need it the most.

-Yes.

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It's not at the end of a frame always or the end of a match,

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it's when they really need it, when they struggle a bit, or they can see their opponent

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starting to play well, they find something, and that's why they're champions.

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But sometimes it doesn't go as you'd like it to go,

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and somewhere along the way, you've got to find a way to learn to win when you're slightly off.

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Would you like to have played against these players today? You'd have loved it, wouldn't you?

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I'd have loved it. I'd absolutely love it.

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But I don't know how I'd cope with them because

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I was only looking at it the other day

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and looking at the speeds of the table,

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how the balls open up when you go into them, and they just spread.

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-They didn't spread in our days.

-No.

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So the tables are friendly, everything is straight.

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-There's no nap on the table like in our day.

-That's right.

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They can back their ability of hitting the ball straight,

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so you've got to be a good cueist, have a good nerve, back your ability and you can pot it

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-because the white will go straight.

-Dead straight.

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But having said that, it makes potting a little bit easier.

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-But it also makes it far more difficult to defend.

-Yes.

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Ray Reardon stayed at the top of the game right into the mid-1980s.

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But in 1991, he retired and has spent the last two decades

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on the balmy shores of Torbay,

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where he enjoys his life to the full.

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People have often asked me why did I go to Torbay,

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the English Riviera. I never knew it was the English Riviera

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until I got down here, and that was a result of my holiday camp playing.

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I'm the president of Churston Golf Club.

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That's one of the reasons I came here in the first place.

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'It's a friendly place that caters for players of all ages.'

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-Are you all right?

-Very well, thank you.

-Excellent, good luck.

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'I often play a round of golf with the manager.'

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Great shot.

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'Simon Bawden. And of course, I've played loads of golf with the members.'

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Nobody more surprised.

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'I'm not bad, I'm playing off 13 at the moment,

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'which for me at my age, it's not about handicap, quite good, really.

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'I don't hit it far enough.

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'There's people up there can throw it further than I can hit it.'

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-What a junior side we've got here.

-We've got a hundred juniors now.

-A hundred now?

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-100, of which 12 are young girls.

-I mentioned earlier on 80-odd.

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-It's a hundred now? Fantastic!

-But 12 of them are young girls.

-Young girls.

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Some of them, the bag's bigger than... I mean, they're this size.

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Seven or eight years of age.

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The thing is, the club's got to be very accessible.

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-And it's got to live in modern times now.

-Absolutely.

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Oh, yes. That's a cracker! That's a beautiful shot.

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I came on the practice green the other day on the putting range

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and I saw one of our lads and I said, "Hello, I haven't seen you for a while.

0:26:510:26:55

"How are you keeping?" I said, "You look well." He said, "I'm all right."

0:26:550:26:59

I said, "How's your game?"

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He said, "It's awful at the moment, I can't play at the moment,

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"I've got a new job and I haven't got time to practise."

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-Haven't got time to practice?! You FIND time.

-Yeah, of course you do.

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You make your own time. That's the passion, the love, the affection.

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-It's not going to come to you.

-How often did you practise, Ray?

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You could never get me off the table.

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OK, Ray, two putts.

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That's not bad.

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Oh, go on then, knock it in.

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-Well done, Ray.

-Well done. How about that?

-Excellent.

-Thank you.

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-Thank you, Mr President, very kind. Cheers.

-Thank you, Simon.

-Pleasure.

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Yes, well, it's been a bit of a journey, hasn't it?

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Absolutely magic,

0:27:550:27:56

from Tredegar, Whitworth Terrace, I've been around the world 12 times.

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Met some wonderful people, feted everywhere.

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I couldn't have wished for better.

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I've been such a lucky chap, it's unbelievable.

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And here we are now, down in Devon, retired here,

0:28:110:28:14

and it's absolutely glorious.

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Somebody once said snooker was a sign of a misspent youth.

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Well, all I can say to those people is I wish I'd started earlier.

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It's been a great trip, I've loved every moment.

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I'd love to do it again.

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