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Relaxed...cool, | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
just waiting for the world title. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
At the table, taking the last four balls | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
is a former champion on five occasions, | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
Welshman Ray Reardon. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
There you go. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
I've still got it. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:25 | |
And there it goes. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
Throughout the 1970s, Ray Reardon dominated the world of snooker. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:41 | |
He won the World Championship six times. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
The game became hugely popular on television | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
and he was its biggest star. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
CHEERING | 0:00:50 | 0:00:51 | |
-What is the fascination of this game to you? -It's colourful. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:10 | |
It's artistic. You can...should... | 0:01:10 | 0:01:14 | |
or try to make the white ball do what you want it to do. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
Oh, it's ambiguous. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
How do you mean, ambiguous? | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
One day you can do everything, and another day you can do nothing. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
-You know, it's as frustrating as it is fascinating. -Yes. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:29 | |
The tough competitor with the twinkling eyes had been shaped | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
by his early years in the South Wales valleys, | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
where he was born in 1932. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
Tredegar, where I was born, what a lovely little place. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:45 | |
It had a population of roughly about 15,000, I suppose, in those days. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
And going back to 90 in the mid '40s, if you like. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
This is where it all happened, right behind me, | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
number 57, Whitworth Terrace. My word, | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
that's going back a few years. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
As I look down here, I can see there's all sun patios and everything out here. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
They must be expecting hot weather sometime in any case. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
But that's nice because this is where it all happened, where I learned to play. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:14 | |
I made my own little footballs out of pieces of paper | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
and marbles and the usual games that kids do. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:22 | |
And Uncle Dan who came to live with us later on was a master chess player. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:26 | |
He was the one who got me going in the world of billiards and snooker. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:30 | |
He got me a small 3 by 2 billiard table | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
and we played with balls that wouldn't go in the pocket. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
And he said you want smaller ones, like little marbles. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
And as a result they went in the pocket, and if it works | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
and you make them go in the pocket, it encourages you to play more. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
And all the other brothers took me to the billiard hall | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
and it was absolutely magic. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
I tell you what, these steps didn't used to be there at the start of it. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
It makes it very hard these days coming up here. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
That was just a run down there, there was nothing, | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
there was no road, this was just mountain. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
And just up there, we used to be in the mud, | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
we used to dig holes in the mountain, where we used to put seats in it, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
have a pipe coming out... | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
Cooked some nice jacket potatoes. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
Smoke paper, brown paper. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:19 | |
Naughty, isn't it? | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
I remember your face like it was yesterday. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
But names, well, I can't remember what happened yesterday sometimes, can I? | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
-There's not many of us left. -There isn't at all. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
They said they were going to come and find people, and here you've turned up. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
How wonderful, isn't that fantastic? Next-door neighbour. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
70 bloody years ago and he wants me to remember his name. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
I can't remember what happened yesterday. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
Sometimes I forget my own name. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
See how Tredegar has changed over the years. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
Going into the '70s and '80s, it really changed. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
And as I'm walking up Castle Street here, and I look down at | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
the clock tower in the middle there, that used to be the bus station. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:07 | |
All the bus stops, wherever you wanted to go, were parked around the clock. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:12 | |
And there was pubs on the corner, | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
everything evolved around it, | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
it was a hive of activity. I look down here today and I see it | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
boarded up here, closed there, nothing here, the buses are no more. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:27 | |
And I thought how sad this is. What do people do these days? | 0:04:27 | 0:04:32 | |
Ray Reardon is a highly intelligent person | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
who still regrets not having enough education. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
But he passed up the chance to go to grammar school, following his father | 0:04:40 | 0:04:45 | |
down the pit at 14, and free to pursue his passion for snooker. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
Of course, going down the mines, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
you just followed in your father's footsteps, really. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
You didn't know the dangers or the pitfalls that were there. | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
You didn't realise what type of hard, hazardous life, | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
risky life, it was going to be | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
because of the fact that you followed in your dad's footsteps. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
If it's safe for him, it's safe for me. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
And of course I started off, as you say, 14 years of age, 1946, | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
I started in Ty Trist. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
And when you go onto the coal face, you're assigned to a collier. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:23 | |
You become the assistant, for want of a better word. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:27 | |
I went with a guy, he was a scrat. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
In other words, he was mean and he put me above all people with him. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:35 | |
So the first week I worked my socks off, | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
expecting to get a decent pocket money. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
I would say a decent pocket money would be something like a pound. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
£1.25p. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
He gave me 50p. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
Very disappointed. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
So the following week, I'd still been assigned to him, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
I didn't work so hard that week. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
Eventually, I was there by myself. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
So I became a coal hewer, at an early age of 16. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:12 | |
My money went up | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
and suddenly I'm earning something like three pounds a week. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
I went home with three pounds a week, in something like 1948. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:23 | |
It helped my snooker. I could play more games of snooker. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
It would take a bit of pressure away, you know. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
The young Reardon's game developed steadily in the snooker halls of Tredegar, | 0:06:32 | 0:06:37 | |
especially the Workmen's Institute, with its seven tables. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
Then, at the age of 16, he made it through to the Youth Championship of Great Britain, | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
an all-Welsh final between Ray Reardon of Tredegar and Jack Carney of Pontardawe. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:52 | |
We go to Langham House, the BBC, | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
Sports Report on a Saturday. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
Introduced by Angus Mackay. Do you remember Sports Report? | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
# Brump a dum, brump a dum... # | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
And here I am in Langham House! | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
We got up to the top tower where he is, and you go into this huge room | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
and there's an enormous mic hanging down from the ceiling | 0:07:12 | 0:07:16 | |
like a Lord Haw-Haw mic, when he used to broadcast over the war. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:21 | |
And there he is, and he's talking to the viewers and he says, | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
"We've got an all-Welsh final of the Youth Championship of Great Britain | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
"and in the final we've got Jack Carney of Pontardawe and Ray Reardon of Tredegar. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:33 | |
"Tredegar," he says. "Ebbw Vale, that's the one," he says, "that's where Nye Bevan was born." | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
He doesn't know where Nye Bevan was born. He was born in Tredegar. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
Ebbw Vale was his constituency, | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
so here I am, 16 years of age, | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
from now on I'm not going to trust any interviewer at all, because they don't know anything. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:52 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
I don't believe it. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
Are there certain shots that are foolproof? | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
-Those are very easy, as you can see, first time. -That's amazing. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
Are there any shots that are foolproof | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
in the sense that a fool like myself can do them? | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
Oh, yes, I can set you up with a shot that you can do yourself. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
-Would you like to try one? -I would, sir. Let me get a cue. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
Get a cue. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
They set me up for that. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
These days, the hub of the game in Tredegar is the Mark Williams Snooker Club. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:45 | |
Ray visits the club on a day when he's one of three world champions on view around the tables. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:51 | |
There's the club's owner, of course, and the great Stephen Hendry, | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
who's practising with Mark. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
And there's even another local hero on hand - an old friend of Ray's. | 0:08:56 | 0:09:01 | |
It's Doug Mountjoy. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
I haven't seen Doug for years and it's nice to see him back in the game again. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
And one of the reasons why he's come back in the game again is because of | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
the conditions that they have here at Mark's club. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
I remember coming here five, seven years ago, | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
and I can assure you, it was the pits. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
It was awful, it was disgusting. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
So the effort they've put in to make this as it is now has been tremendous, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:26 | |
it's been enormous. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:27 | |
And you can see, you've got young people in here of 8, 10, 12, 14 years of age. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:32 | |
This is where the business of the game starts, you know. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
I learnt to play in Tredegar Workmen's Institute, | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
which is not far from here, just in town. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
And when I was there, all my ambition was to become champion of the club. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:45 | |
And I'm sure these young, aspiring players, | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
that should be their aim, to be champion of the Mark Williams Club. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:52 | |
Bearing in mind that I had two shillings a week pocket money, | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
and it was thruppence a game, | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
so loser pays. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
So you could have eight games of snooker for two shillings. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
But if you lost them all, you're skint for the week. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
So you'd better learn to play quick or take up something else. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
All your other players, your mates as you'd call them, | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
on a Saturday night they'd say to me, "Ray, | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
"we're going to go to the dance hall at Herbie Jones in Tredegar here. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
"But first we'll have a couple of pints. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
"We'll meet at seven o'clock around the clock tower." | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
And I would say, "Which pub are you going to use? | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
"The Punch House, the Golden Lion, the Cambrian," and they'd say, | 0:10:30 | 0:10:34 | |
"No, we're going to the Punch House, have a game of snooker and darts, a few pints and a game of pool." | 0:10:34 | 0:10:39 | |
And I said, "I'll be there at nine o'clock." | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
Because I will come here, into the billiard hall, | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
and have two hours' practice, then I'd pick them up, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
have a game of darts, have a few pints and go to the dance hall, | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
look for a girl, as you know. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
And so I missed out on nothing. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
Being a miner did have a lot of influence on my snooker career. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:03 | |
Merely the fact that you play with all these working-class people. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:07 | |
They were so supportive of you and you didn't realise it | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
until you went back down the pit the next day and everybody would be asking, | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
"How did you get on yesterday? Did you win?" | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
"No, I lost, but I'll get him next time." | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
And that helped my attitude to snooker, to make me more competitive. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
Ray's snooker was thriving, | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
but the pits of South Wales were going into serious decline. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
The young miner went to the Midlands to find work. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:34 | |
You could make a living there, but the pit was still a dangerous place. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
Something serious happened to me in the mines. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
And that changed my life altogether really, because I got buried. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:47 | |
And when you're buried in the mines, | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
you're under about four or five tonnes of rubble | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
and you can't move a muscle and you're doubled over, and you can feel | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
your blood going out of your system, you open your mouth to breathe | 0:11:56 | 0:12:01 | |
and all the particles of dust goes into your mouth | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
and you think I mustn't do that, I must breathe through my nose. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
And my blood pressure was soaring | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
and I had to concentrate on something. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
And I was lucky to have a brother who was 17 years younger than I, | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
brother Ron, and I played marbles with him in my mind. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
Thousands of games of marbles. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
And eventually I got my blood pressure right down, I nearly stopped by heart rate, | 0:12:21 | 0:12:26 | |
I got it down low and I survived. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
So I said, "I don't think I'm worried about a game of snooker, | 0:12:28 | 0:12:32 | |
"there's other things in life, it's not the end of the world, a game of snooker." | 0:12:32 | 0:12:36 | |
But it's so essential to those who play it. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
-It's been a pleasure. -Any time, Ray. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
We've seen Doug over there, we've had a word with him. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
Full of legends in here today. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
After being buried alive in the pits, Ray Reardon left coal mining in the late 1950s. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:55 | |
Education and experience hadn't prepared him | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
for any other career, but he hit on the idea of the police force. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
The training regime came as a bit of a shock. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
It was unbelievable, the guy in charge of the keep-fit - | 0:13:07 | 0:13:12 | |
don't forget, I'd been down the mines for 11 years, | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
I'm not going to be fit, I can't have, in those conditions. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
Anyhow, I'm at the college | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
and on the Wednesday they went on a three-mile run. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
For the first 150 yards, I'm all right. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
Then, after that, I walked. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
So I'm going to walk three miles, it's going to take me an hour and a quarter, hour and a half. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:35 | |
So when I got back, he's still there. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
I go to gate, and he goes click. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
He said, "PC Reardon," he said, "You're not going to become a policeman." | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
And I looked at the sergeant and said, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
"I'm going to become a policeman." He said, "How do you make that out?" | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
I said, "When I'm out on the beat and I get a call | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
"to go down to trouble at a pub somewhere, I'll walk down. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
"By the time I get there, they'll have hit holy hell out of each other, and I just pick them up." | 0:13:55 | 0:14:00 | |
He said, "I think you may become a policeman." | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
And of course, I continued my snooker. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
In fact, I achieved my ambition of winning the English Amateur Championship in 1963/64, | 0:14:06 | 0:14:12 | |
whilst I was in the police force. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
And then later on, some good luck came to me | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
to go on a tour of South Africa. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
As a result of that, of course, I eventually turned professional. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:22 | |
And then along came colour television. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:26 | |
Pot Black was a sudden-death competition, which transformed | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
the fortunes of snooker. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:31 | |
But taking part was a risky venture for Ray, | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
who hadn't long turned professional. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
What if I take part in Pot Black? | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
It's a one-frame knockout, sudden death, and you lose in the first round. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:45 | |
So you don't pot many balls. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
And you're try to sell yourself by advertising, sending circulars | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
out to clubs, to secretaries. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
They see this Pot Black, and you've gone out first round | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
and you haven't scored anything and they say, "We don't want him in our club." | 0:14:55 | 0:14:59 | |
That's a very dodgy, that's very risky. So I took the risk. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:04 | |
I was one of the lucky ones because I won the first one. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
In 1969. And I'd have to change my career. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
The 1970s saw the World Championship become a big TV event. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
The long, intense battles of these snooker finals were perfect for Reardon. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:23 | |
He was a great potter, but he also had the gritty determination | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
and the tactical skill you needed to win. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
CHEERING | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
But above all, Ray Reardon was an entertainer. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:45 | |
In the '70s and '80s, the snooker calendar wasn't jammed with tournaments. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:49 | |
So Ray spent the summers on the holiday camp circuit, | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
entertaining the crowds with his repertoire of trick shots. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
And an invitation to all-comers to have a go with a world champion. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
Snooker has transformed itself | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
since those early days of celebrity in the '70s. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
It's fast, dynamic and full of appeal to young and old alike. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
It certainly appeals to Ray Reardon, | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
who relishes the new style of the game. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
Coming to the Welsh Open, I love that, especially in Newport. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
It's great to see the passion for the game still strong in Wales. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
Thank you. Thanks, Ray. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
I like just slipping into the auditorium when it's empty. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:41 | |
Before the crowds come. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
It's great to get a feeling for the space, it's like theatre really. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:48 | |
And for a long time, it was my stage and I loved every moment. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
At the moment, I'm just absorbing what is here, | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
what I can use for myself when I'm playing. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
I mean, where we are now, we've got an empty arena. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
Imagine it full. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
You can imagine goose pimples coming on your face | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
and up the back of your arm, and I look around and I think, | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
"Wow, this is going to be something today!" | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
And then I want to just get the general feeling of how far I am away from the audience. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:18 | |
I don't like to be too far. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
If possible, I like to communicate with them in some way, shape or form. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:25 | |
Yes. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:26 | |
Yes. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:34 | |
This tells me which pocket to play, which is more friendly than the other one. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:39 | |
Just by general looking at it, feeling it. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
It's a world of experience which tells you... | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
that I'd be better potting them up there than in here, | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
and I'd be better potting them in there than in here. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
It favours you fractionally, marginally. I'm talking... | 0:17:56 | 0:18:00 | |
Oh, a 128th of an inch or something, you know. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:04 | |
Something infinitesimal, really. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
I now look where the cameras are. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
I know there will be three of them. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
There'll be one coming down the table, elongated sort of thing. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:18 | |
And you'll have two coming down as far as the middle pocket, I suppose. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
That's very general. And I want to know where they are | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
for my purpose, not for their purpose. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
Here is a media which I'm going to exploit. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
I'm going to sell myself to the public just by doing various things. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:38 | |
Where I twaddle my ear or pinch my nose, | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
or go in your pockets for a bit of chalk or something, adjust your tie. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:46 | |
I'm doing it to attract attention, | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
that they will focus on me rather than him. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
I mean, this is free. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
Sell yourself. I mean, you've got to pay a lot of money | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
to get on television. I can do it for nothing. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
You're aware of it, you know. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
You make sure that the cameras will find you. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
Because when you get up, they're not expecting you to get up. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
Get on him, where's he going, what's he doing? | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
What's he doing over there? | 0:19:17 | 0:19:18 | |
And suddenly they become aware of this person here. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:23 | |
I mean...a bit of mileage in you, isn't there? | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
And you've just got to exploit it, I'm afraid. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
Sometimes you may have heard... | 0:19:33 | 0:19:35 | |
or people may have heard one of the commentators say, | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
"My God, he's gone into the zone by the look of him." | 0:19:38 | 0:19:40 | |
In other words, he's not aware of anything that's going on around him. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:44 | |
When he's playing in this sort of form, | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
you can't afford to let him in with reds spread all over the table like this. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:53 | |
He's right in with... like if the balls are his. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
And he's nurturing them, | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
and I'm going to take you on, come with me and do this. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
And they do exactly as he says. It's wonderful. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
And it isn't very often you go into that zone, | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
but when you get in there... | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
Oh, I can't explain it, it's... You never miss anything, | 0:20:09 | 0:20:14 | |
your positional play is accurate, it's spot-on, | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
within inches of where you want it to go, nothing is difficult. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
And you're playing so well that even if you did make | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
a bit of a loose shot, you're playing so well | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
that you can recover from it because you're on form, as they say. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:31 | |
-You're looking well. -Amazing, isn't it? -Bloody hell. How old are you now? | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
I shouldn't say, that's a bit rude, really. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
I'll be 80 in October, let's put it that way. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
Yeah, you don't look a day over 60, love. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
He's a flatterer. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
Do you still get the buzz when you walk out | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
and you see the arena glistening, ready to go? | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
You're bound to really, aren't you? | 0:20:50 | 0:20:52 | |
It's always changing, but it's changing for the good. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:56 | |
I've only put one tweet out today, and look, there it is. How's that? | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
-And I've got a plug there. -That's the only tweet... -I've got a plug | 0:21:00 | 0:21:05 | |
-on the Facebook. What do you think of that? -Hi, boss. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
Surely, you'd say the word "legend" is grossly overused in sport. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:13 | |
But for a man of that stature and character and personality | 0:21:13 | 0:21:18 | |
and warmth, legend is the right word, isn't it? | 0:21:18 | 0:21:20 | |
-That table was so fast. -It was, wasn't it? Lightning. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:24 | |
You just rolled out and it kept rolling. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
And you only get this limited time. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
I think the thing that Ray developed first, more than any other player, | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
he dominated the table. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:35 | |
Even if he wasn't actually on the table playing, | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
he kind of had an aura, walked around the table, laughing with the crowd. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
All of a sudden, you're almost frightened to play against him sometimes. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
"Oh, it's Ray Reardon at the table, I'll wait till he gets away from the table before I come to the table." | 0:21:45 | 0:21:49 | |
He had that wonderful aura about him. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
He'd give you a steely look sometimes if he thought | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
you'd played a foul and you didn't admit it or something like that. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
He'd give you the eyeball. | 0:21:57 | 0:21:58 | |
So everything was precise with Ray, everything had to be done right. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
All on the last two balls then. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
The little forced smile sometimes, I knew it wasn't always | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
the happy-go-lucky, jovial chappie he portrayed sometimes because he was a... | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
I'm just trying to think of the right word. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
He was a gritty, determined character, | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
that was the thing about Ray. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
Yes. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:18 | |
'Do your remember I played you in Pontins? | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
'I was English amateur champion,' | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
and the amateurs qualified and played against the pros. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
And you got starts there. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
Anyway, the draws come out and who have I drawn? | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
Ray Reardon, the world champion. I was absolutely thrilled, honestly. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
Just what you needed. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
The good news was, we were playing next morning at half past ten, | 0:22:39 | 0:22:43 | |
which, as you know, you had a reputation of not being very good in the morning. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
-I like them thinking that. -I'm getting up, I'm thinking 25 start. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
-Hey-hey! -I like that, I like that. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
Anyway, I won one frame on the black when I cleared up. I got a 25 start. | 0:22:54 | 0:23:01 | |
To be honest with you, I did not see you. You gave me a lesson, right. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
-And I understood that. -But you need that. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
But what you told me afterwards always stayed with me. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
I said you played really well, Ray, and the words you said to me was... | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
.."Played well? I had to play well to beat you, giving you 25 start." | 0:23:16 | 0:23:22 | |
Well, I felt ten foot high. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
Honestly, I've gone from being on the floor like that. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
It was a very nice thing for you to say | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
because I've learned from it, I learned from what you'd done to me. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
It's so important, isn't it, really? | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
I think six times champion of the world is a wonderful achievement, | 0:23:35 | 0:23:40 | |
and what I see about great champions is | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
they always seem to find something at the right time in the match. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:46 | |
It doesn't have to be the last frame, | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
-but you find something when you need it the most. -Yes. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
It's not at the end of a frame always or the end of a match, | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
it's when they really need it, when they struggle a bit, or they can see their opponent | 0:23:54 | 0:23:58 | |
starting to play well, they find something, and that's why they're champions. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:02 | |
But sometimes it doesn't go as you'd like it to go, | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
and somewhere along the way, you've got to find a way to learn to win when you're slightly off. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:11 | |
Would you like to have played against these players today? You'd have loved it, wouldn't you? | 0:24:11 | 0:24:15 | |
I'd have loved it. I'd absolutely love it. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
But I don't know how I'd cope with them because | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
I was only looking at it the other day | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
and looking at the speeds of the table, | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
how the balls open up when you go into them, and they just spread. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
-They didn't spread in our days. -No. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
So the tables are friendly, everything is straight. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
-There's no nap on the table like in our day. -That's right. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
They can back their ability of hitting the ball straight, | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
so you've got to be a good cueist, have a good nerve, back your ability and you can pot it | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
-because the white will go straight. -Dead straight. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
But having said that, it makes potting a little bit easier. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
-But it also makes it far more difficult to defend. -Yes. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:56 | |
Ray Reardon stayed at the top of the game right into the mid-1980s. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
But in 1991, he retired and has spent the last two decades | 0:25:14 | 0:25:19 | |
on the balmy shores of Torbay, | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
where he enjoys his life to the full. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:23 | |
People have often asked me why did I go to Torbay, | 0:25:25 | 0:25:27 | |
the English Riviera. I never knew it was the English Riviera | 0:25:27 | 0:25:31 | |
until I got down here, and that was a result of my holiday camp playing. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:36 | |
I'm the president of Churston Golf Club. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:44 | |
That's one of the reasons I came here in the first place. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
'It's a friendly place that caters for players of all ages.' | 0:25:47 | 0:25:51 | |
-Are you all right? -Very well, thank you. -Excellent, good luck. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
'I often play a round of golf with the manager.' | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
Great shot. | 0:25:57 | 0:25:59 | |
'Simon Bawden. And of course, I've played loads of golf with the members.' | 0:25:59 | 0:26:03 | |
Nobody more surprised. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
'I'm not bad, I'm playing off 13 at the moment, | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
'which for me at my age, it's not about handicap, quite good, really. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
'I don't hit it far enough. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
'There's people up there can throw it further than I can hit it.' | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
-What a junior side we've got here. -We've got a hundred juniors now. -A hundred now? | 0:26:17 | 0:26:22 | |
-100, of which 12 are young girls. -I mentioned earlier on 80-odd. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
-It's a hundred now? Fantastic! -But 12 of them are young girls. -Young girls. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:30 | |
Some of them, the bag's bigger than... I mean, they're this size. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
Seven or eight years of age. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
The thing is, the club's got to be very accessible. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
-And it's got to live in modern times now. -Absolutely. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
Oh, yes. That's a cracker! That's a beautiful shot. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:48 | |
I came on the practice green the other day on the putting range | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
and I saw one of our lads and I said, "Hello, I haven't seen you for a while. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
"How are you keeping?" I said, "You look well." He said, "I'm all right." | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
I said, "How's your game?" | 0:26:59 | 0:27:01 | |
He said, "It's awful at the moment, I can't play at the moment, | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
"I've got a new job and I haven't got time to practise." | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
-Haven't got time to practice?! You FIND time. -Yeah, of course you do. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:12 | |
You make your own time. That's the passion, the love, the affection. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
-It's not going to come to you. -How often did you practise, Ray? | 0:27:15 | 0:27:19 | |
You could never get me off the table. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
OK, Ray, two putts. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:24 | |
That's not bad. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:27 | |
Oh, go on then, knock it in. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
-Well done, Ray. -Well done. How about that? -Excellent. -Thank you. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
-Thank you, Mr President, very kind. Cheers. -Thank you, Simon. -Pleasure. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:45 | |
Yes, well, it's been a bit of a journey, hasn't it? | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
Absolutely magic, | 0:27:55 | 0:27:56 | |
from Tredegar, Whitworth Terrace, I've been around the world 12 times. | 0:27:56 | 0:28:02 | |
Met some wonderful people, feted everywhere. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:06 | |
I couldn't have wished for better. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
I've been such a lucky chap, it's unbelievable. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
And here we are now, down in Devon, retired here, | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
and it's absolutely glorious. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
Somebody once said snooker was a sign of a misspent youth. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
Well, all I can say to those people is I wish I'd started earlier. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:26 | |
It's been a great trip, I've loved every moment. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
I'd love to do it again. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:33 | |
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