Love and Death in City Hall


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This programme contains some strong language.

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This programme contains some scenes which some viewers may find upsetting.

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So have you a big bridal party? Have you many bridesmaids?

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Yes, see, I tried to, like, incorporate everybody.

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His side of the family and my side.

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So he has four men, I have four bridesmaids,

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and then we have three flower girls and three page boys.

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-God, that IS big!

-I know!

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So are you going to get dressed up, then?

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-Are you going to wear a nice suit?

-Yeah!

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-Is Mummy going to be a princess?

-Yeah, me going in a suit.

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You're going in a suit? THEY LAUGH

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-Where did you meet?

-I was an apprentice, working in Shorts,

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and he was coming down, they had no work at the time,

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so they were coming down to re-train, and I met him there.

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He was doing the whole "big lad" thing.

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"You're gorgeous," and all that! THEY LAUGH

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But he left after about a week, and I never seen him again.

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But a year later, I got moved

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-into the factory where he was working.

-Right.

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-But I had a boyfriend then.

-Right.

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So he was asking me out and stuff and I said, "No, I'm going with a fella.

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"Can't be doing that, now."

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So he says to me one day, "I've no money in my phone.

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"Do you mind if I borrow yours to phone my mate?"

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And I says, "No, go ahead." So he lifted my phone, rang himself,

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and he said, "Got your number now, chick!"

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THEY LAUGH So it was the whole big boy attitude

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that really...you know, the cockiness and stuff?

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-That attracted you?

-I know, it is!

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Can't really say no to that sort of thing!

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You couldn't give me a wee drop of cold water for that?

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-Cold water?

-Yeah, please.

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So are these twins?

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No, no, this is my daughter,

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and Stephanie's my daughter, and this...

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-This is MY daughter.

-So that's your granddaughter?

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-So there's three generations sitting in front of me here?

-There is.

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My God! You wouldn't think it, so you would!

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Three generations, and these two are three days apart.

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-They're going to grow up so like twins.

-Oh, definitely.

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-Who discovered first?

-Me.

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And then you told your mummy?

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-Yeah, I told my mum.

-And then?

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And then I found out two weeks after Stephanie.

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Stephanie was the last person I wanted to tell I was pregnant,

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because it was her time...

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-Yeah, and how did you feel when your mummy told you?

-I don't know.

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-I always wanted a wee sister, didn't I?

-Oh, always.

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They're going to be so like twins.

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We've already talked about sleepovers and twin buggies

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and who's taking who out.

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-And they'll be in the same class at school and everything!

-Aye.

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-Just imagine Christmas!

-I know, it'll be great!

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I can't wait to do it all again,

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-because I remember the look on Stephanie's face.

-When Santa came?

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When Santa came. She would come into the room and she would just sparkle.

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Her eyes would light up and she'd go, "Oh, Mummy! Oh, Mummy!"

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And are you a great Christmas person?

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No, I hate Christmas.

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Well, you're going to have to start loving it for this year!

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-I know, I will!

-It's so different when you've got your own.

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We'll have to get two extra chairs for the table now.

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-Two high chairs, this Christmas.

-I know.

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Skyler Precious. Oh, wow!

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-Isn't that lovely?

-It is.

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I did want her to be called Precious,

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but I wasn't allowed.

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-Who didn't allow you?

-Her daddy.

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I wasn't allowed to call her that because it sounds like a porn star.

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THEY LAUGH

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40...

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..160...

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..170...

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..175. There.

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Got more than enough.

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Well, that's your date booked for your wedding in the City Hall.

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-It's a happy day.

-And that's all yours, sweetheart.

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-Thank you very much.

-Don't spend it on a horse!

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You don't say that.

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You're not supposed to say things like that. No!

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Mr Coulter, what was your occupation?

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-Labourer.

-A labourer.

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Labourer. A labourer all my life.

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That's fine.

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I've been married before.

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And I'd say, "Oh, it's a hard road going down on your own!

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-"It's a very hard road!

-THEY LAUGH

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-There you are. You got what you wanted.

-Yep!

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THEY LAUGH

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Stop it! You're making me nervous!

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Oh, I know, but you're after letting go of it.

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You win some, you lose some, you know?

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You can have someone doing a reading if you want to,

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if you've got a poem or a favourite piece of verse.

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It just can't be anything religious.

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Oh, no, no, no, no.

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And if you are going to have a wee poem or that,

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we need to see the wording and the name of the person.

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-Do I need to take off these badges? Them there?

-What?

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Are you not allowed to wear them?

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-You can wear what you want.

-Thank you very much, dear.

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-Yep.

-That's it.

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Will you sign it at the bottom for me? I'll give you copies.

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You know what I'm telling you, what I'm worried about?

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In case you walk out and walk away and leave me.

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-No.

-Sure, my ex was there and she walked out.

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Left me with children and all.

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And I hope you're not going to do the same thing.

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-I'm not going to do it. No way.

-You better not.

-No.

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I'm telling you, you've got a good bloke here.

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Genuine.

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-He's not going to mess around with anybody.

-I'm not going anywhere!

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SHE LAUGHS

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I'm from Belfast!

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-It's quite fancy in there, isn't it?

-It is really fancy.

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All the big marble floors and all.

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Thank you.

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What are we in for today?

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Our wedding schedule. Just to pick it up.

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Not this time already?!

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I know, isn't that scary, how quick it's come in?!

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Is this last time I'll see this bit, "single?"

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-That's it! That's it!

-HE LAUGHS

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Are you married long?

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-A very long time.

-A very long time?

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THEY LAUGH

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-You'd have been good on our marriage course, wouldn't you?

-Yeah!

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"How to Make a Marriage Last!" SHE LAUGHS

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Just nod and agree with everything they say?

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It's very simple, you're in the wrong. That's it!

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We've been watching the likes of Four Weddings

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and Don't Tell The Bride and stuff, and I would go,

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"Oh, what do you think of that wedding dress?"

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And he would go, "Hmm, that's lovely."

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And he's scared to say any dress isn't nice,

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-in case it's like my dress.

-Yeah, yeah!

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I can't wait to see her in the dress.

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But I would say I'll have a wee tear in my eye, so I will.

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-As my mum says, "You better not cry!"

-He better cry!

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SHE LAUGHS

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CHEERING

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"When the one whose hand you're holding

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"is the one who holds your heart

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"When the one whose eyes you gaze into

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"Gives your hopes and dreams their start

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"When the one whom you believe in puts her faith and trust in you

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"You've found the one and only love you share your whole life through."

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-Aw!

-SHE LAUGHS

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Total rubbish!

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-I'm very cynical.

-Oh, Jennifer!

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-I'm very cynical.

-You have to be romantic!

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There isn't just...I don't believe there's just

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ONE person in the world just for you. I don't believe in that.

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TUNE - "GOING TO THE CHAPEL"

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-BEHIND CAMERA:

-When you were wee,

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did you have an idea of what love would feel like?

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No. See whenever I was young, I think,

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cos your emotions are running so high whenever you're younger,

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you think you're in love with absolutely everybody.

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But them there feelings don't last.

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Whenever you're with someone, you stop getting the butterflies

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and stuff, but it turns into something totally different.

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-Where you just rely on them for all wee things, don't you?

-Mmm-hmm.

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Close them down again.

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Like, Marie-Claire, my niece, said to me,

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"Are you still going to come and visit us once you're married?"

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As if I'm going to turn into this total different person.

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But I don't think I will.

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See, to be honest, even right now, I'm getting ready,

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I still don't feel like I'm going to be a married woman.

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Like, I don't know whether it'll feel any different or not.

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Maybe it'll be like, know having a birthday, never feeling a year older?

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-Yeah.

-It'll just sort of feel the same.

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-Ooh, I've got butterflies in my stomach!

-I know! All morning!

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It's all about me! SHE LAUGHS

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Is that OK?

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All right, this is the tightest it goes, from the top.

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Right, what are you feeling now, nervous or excited?

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I feel pretty calm, actually. I'm really surprised.

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Daddy, you look lovely in that suit!

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Is it OK if my daddy sits in the back seat?

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HE WHISTLES SOFTLY

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It's my second time, you know.

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-Glutton for punishment!

-HE LAUGHS

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When you get old, you need somebody to look after you.

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DRIVER: Oh, aye.

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You just can't turn the clocks back any more.

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-BEHIND CAMERA:

-You're not nervous at all, Billy?

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No, no. No, no.

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She's nervous, but not me. I'm not nervous about anything.

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"ETERNAL FLAME" BY THE BANGLES PLAYS ON STEREO

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SHE GASPS

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I'm going to start crying now already!

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My make-up's going to be ruined by the end of this day.

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Och, look at them, Daddy.

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Don't they all look lovely?

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There's Charlie! SHE SNIFFS

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I swear, I think I have hormone issues!

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What's my make-up like? Is it all right now?

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It's only natural.

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CHORAL MUSIC

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I have to remind you both

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of the solemn and binding character

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of the contract you're about to make.

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Marriage, according to the law of this country,

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is the union of one man with one woman,

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voluntarily entered into

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to the exclusion of all others.

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OK, Billy, if you'd like to put the ring on Carol's finger

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and repeat after me: I give you this ring.

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I give you this ring.

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-As a symbol.

-As a symbol.

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-Of my love.

-Of my love.

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-And of our marriage.

-And of our marriage.

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Today.

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It's tight!

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SHE LAUGHS

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Your finger grew! I'll get it on.

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That'll do. That's all right.

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That's all right there, isn't it?

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By virtue of the covenants made in my presence,

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as Deputy Registrar of Marriages,

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I declare that you, William John Coulter,

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and you, Carol Anne Smith,

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are now joined together in matrimony,

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in accordance with the law.

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You are now husband and wife.

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Thank you.

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I was going to say, "You may kiss your bride!"

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See, I'm there first! I'm there first! Right quick!

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-PRIEST:

-In Christ, Our Lord.

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The peace of the Lord, ever and always.

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ALL: And also with you.

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In the name of the Father and of the Son

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and of the Holy Spirit,

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Lord be with you.

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CHORAL MUSIC

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Did we get it?

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You got it?

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I think we've got bride and groom here.

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Oh, and there's another couple of girls over here at the fountain.

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They look as if they're something to do with the wedding as well.

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-BEHIND CAMERA:

-Was there a point in your own marriage,

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a day in your own marriage, where you thought,

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"I don't think this is going to work any more?"

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One specific one? One particular day?

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A whole lot of days.

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My honeymoon.

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On my honeymoon, I think we both knew it wasn't going to work.

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But we were too scared. Marriage...

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..you're talking a good while ago.

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Both our parents were quite religious people.

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And I always was told you got married

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and you got married for life.

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For better, for worse.

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And, um...

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I was told you had to stick with it.

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I was very young,

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and I maybe just didn't have the confidence I would have now.

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Do you plan to fall in love again?

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Erm...

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SHE LAUGHS

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I don't know, honestly.

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I...I would be very scared.

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I don't know whether I would get married again, no.

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When did your wife die?

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Christmas Eve.

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Did you get a death certificate?

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-No.

-Was the coroner involved?

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No.

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Did she die suddenly, or had she seen a doctor?

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She'd seen the doctor within the last month or something like that.

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-Had she?

-Yeah.

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So there should be a death certificate, then.

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Yeah...no, I haven't got one.

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Do you know who has that?

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Did a doctor come out...where did she die?

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-In the house.

-In the house.

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Did a doctor come out to make out a death certificate?

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No, it was Christmas Eve, actually. But he came out afterwards.

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-He came out afterwards?

-Yeah.

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-What, after Christmas?

-Yes.

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She was buried on...she died on Christmas Eve

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and was buried on the Monday.

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So it probably would have gone through the coroner's office,

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because of it happening over the holiday period.

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Yes, yes, yes.

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-There probably might not have been a death certificate issued, then.

-No.

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Who was your doctor?

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Computer's very slow today.

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-Is it?

-Mmm-hmm.

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Ah, well.

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-Arthur.

-I thought I recognised you coming in there.

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-How are you?

-Not too bad.

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-How are you?

-Sorry about Joan.

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-I know you are. Thanks very much.

-OK.

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You've some happy memories. How long were you married?

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-55.

-HIS VOICE CRACKS

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-Long time, isn't it?

-Very long.

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-Not long enough, as I said.

-I know, I know.

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I'm happy for her, I really am.

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I shouldn't be doing what I'm doing now but...

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-So she'd a peaceful death, then?

-A beautiful death.

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The woman next door...got her to come in

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because of her breathing, you know?

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I said, "She might not be breathing now."

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She was all right, but she wasn't gasping or anything.

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-She was just...

-HE BREATHES CALMLY

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And she said, "I think she's telling us she's going."

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The woman next door said, "I've seen people dying,

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"but I never saw a more beautiful death."

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-The woman next door said this.

-Isn't that nice?

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And I said, "Well, that's good, isn't it?"

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You don't know how lucky you are, wee man. So...

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-You don't feel too lucky?

-No, that's right.

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Hello, this is Peggy here from City Hall, Registration of Deaths.

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How can I help you?

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PHONE RINGS

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Christopher was my only son.

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He had a brain tumour.

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-BEHIND CAMERA:

-And what's the wee feather?

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After Christopher died,

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I would just find feathers in really random places,

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and I kind of looked upon them as a sign.

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Whether they were or not, I don't know, but I kept several of them.

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Do you remember, Margaret, the time I came back in here

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-with the feather attached to my neck?

-Oh, yes.

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That was lovely. It just sat here.

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Feathers everywhere.

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So the feather, in a way, connects you to where he is, in a way?

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Erm...

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I suppose, a little bit.

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A little bit.

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I would love some more connection.

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It's not enough.

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ARTHUR MUMBLES PRAYER

0:22:170:22:20

-That's me back again today!

-HE LAUGHS

0:22:270:22:29

Everything OK?

0:22:300:22:32

-BEHIND CAMERA:

-Is it good to talk to Joan, Arthur?

0:22:360:22:39

Yep. Say prayers and talk to her.

0:22:390:22:42

-Ask her to look after me.

-HE CHUCKLES

0:22:420:22:44

And tell her how much I miss her.

0:22:490:22:51

And Junior too.

0:23:040:23:05

Who's Junior?

0:23:080:23:10

Junior's my son, Arthur.

0:23:100:23:12

What happened to Junior?

0:23:170:23:18

He was going down that road there, and apparently,

0:23:180:23:23

when tar and bitumen meets, it makes it so slippery,

0:23:230:23:30

and he was driving and going down the hill and he went into a spin,

0:23:300:23:37

and there was a big tree on the far side and he hit that tree.

0:23:370:23:40

There was another boy with him. He was all right.

0:23:430:23:46

But Junior died.

0:23:480:23:50

I hope you and Junior can hear me.

0:24:020:24:05

You know how much I miss the two of you.

0:24:050:24:08

-All being well, see you tomorrow.

-HE CHUCKLES

0:24:110:24:15

-You're Mr Redmond's son?

-Yeah.

0:25:230:25:25

His place of birth, was it Belfast?

0:25:250:25:28

-Yeah, it was Belfast.

-I'll just put Belfast.

0:25:280:25:31

-And his marital status?

-Still married, so he was.

0:25:310:25:34

Just, "married," then.

0:25:340:25:36

And whatever his occupation was?

0:25:360:25:38

-He was a sprayer in Shorts.

-OK.

0:25:380:25:41

-Just put, "aircraft sprayer?"

-Yeah.

0:25:410:25:43

-You came straight down from the hospital?

-Yeah.

0:25:430:25:47

Well, no, I had to go down to Shorts there first,

0:25:470:25:50

the place where he worked.

0:25:500:25:51

I had to see them, and they told me to come here.

0:25:510:25:54

And then I'll have to go home again.

0:25:540:25:56

No, it's not something any of us are really experienced at.

0:26:000:26:04

You know, you don't want to be doing something like this too often.

0:26:040:26:07

-No.

-No, it's all new.

0:26:070:26:08

That's what the wee nurse said to me this morning.

0:26:080:26:11

"You're all new at this."

0:26:110:26:13

-BEHIND CAMERA:

-Sammy, what does it feel like

0:26:250:26:27

on the day that you lose your father?

0:26:270:26:29

-Here's my son now.

-Is it?

0:27:230:27:25

That's your wedding day there?

0:27:320:27:34

That's my wedding day, yes.

0:27:340:27:35

I was 19 and he was 21.

0:27:350:27:38

And what do you remember about that day?

0:27:380:27:41

Oh, it was brilliant.

0:27:410:27:42

Happiest day of my life.

0:27:420:27:43

Did you know you were going to be together forever at that time?

0:27:450:27:48

Well, not really. Not at that time, you know. Just...

0:27:480:27:51

..just, we never wanted to part, you know?

0:27:520:27:55

Do you want to come in out of the cold and wait?

0:28:010:28:03

CHORAL MUSIC

0:28:240:28:26

I'm just wondering, what was your secret?

0:28:400:28:43

About staying together so long?

0:28:430:28:46

We didn't really have a secret, did we?

0:28:460:28:49

Just stayed together.

0:28:490:28:51

That's what the girl up in the nursing home said to me one day.

0:28:510:28:55

"How long were you married?"

0:28:550:28:58

I said, "Well, in April coming, it'll be 60 years."

0:28:580:29:02

She says, "That's a long time you've stayed together."

0:29:020:29:06

She says, "How did you stick 60 years?"

0:29:060:29:09

I said, "We just loved each other."

0:29:090:29:12

SHE LAUGHS That's right.

0:29:120:29:14

Who's Sandy?

0:29:190:29:21

That's the dog.

0:29:210:29:24

SHE LAUGHS German shepherd!

0:29:240:29:26

That was his wish.

0:29:260:29:28

That's what we both...when we were a bit younger,

0:29:280:29:32

we decided when we got him

0:29:320:29:34

that if anything happened to any one of us,

0:29:340:29:36

he would go in the bottom of the coffin.

0:29:360:29:38

So unfortunately, Roy went first.

0:29:380:29:40

SHE SOBS

0:30:010:30:04

I love you. I always will.

0:30:150:30:17

SHE SOBS

0:30:200:30:23

ORGAN MUSIC

0:31:020:31:05

Just stop there and take the coffin off your shoulders with your hands.

0:31:120:31:17

We commit his body to be cremated.

0:31:200:31:23

Ashes to ashes, dust to dust, in the sure

0:31:230:31:29

and certain hope of the resurrection to eternal life through our Lord

0:31:290:31:33

and Saviour Jesus Christ, Amen.

0:31:330:31:38

The groom is delayed,

0:32:160:32:18

and the bride has to get back into the car again to hide from him.

0:32:180:32:21

-Do you remember the first time you fell in love?

-Yes.

0:32:280:32:31

I was 19.

0:32:320:32:35

My first love.

0:32:370:32:39

Very special.

0:32:430:32:45

Still friends.

0:32:490:32:50

-Albeit on Facebook.

-How did you know?

0:32:530:32:58

Um... Because I just really, genuinely wanted to be with him

0:32:580:33:02

all the time, and shared everything with him.

0:33:020:33:05

And I would say that he loved me more than I loved him,

0:33:070:33:10

and I genuinely really loved him.

0:33:100:33:13

There you go, the one that got away.

0:33:150:33:17

He didn't get away, we decided that we were going to split up,

0:33:190:33:24

and we split up. That was right at the time, so no regrets.

0:33:240:33:30

-Never think about meeting him again?

-I did. I met up with him in 2008

0:33:300:33:36

and spent the day with him and his family, it was his wife and daughter,

0:33:360:33:40

spent the whole day with them, it was lovely.

0:33:400:33:42

And I would have met up with him last year.

0:33:420:33:46

He lives in Australia. That's handy(!) When I was in Australia,

0:33:460:33:50

but I left a message for him on Facebook saying, "Do you fancy meeting up for a coffee?"

0:33:500:33:56

And he never got back to me, so...

0:33:560:34:00

But...

0:34:010:34:03

It's a bit hurtful after all this time.

0:34:030:34:06

But that's just the way things go.

0:34:080:34:09

You know?

0:34:130:34:14

Hello!

0:34:170:34:19

-Gary?

-Cutting it fine.

-You're cutting it fine?!

0:34:190:34:22

I thought you'd never get through the courtyard.

0:34:220:34:26

-You are getting married in St Therese?

-Yes.

-That's a lovely chapel.

0:34:300:34:33

It is a nice wee chapel, isn't it?

0:34:330:34:35

I actually went to the school beside it, Little Flower.

0:34:350:34:39

-Oh, did you?

-It's nice, yeah.

0:34:390:34:41

So you've got links there.

0:34:410:34:43

Yes, well, to be honest, the reason why we did it there was

0:34:430:34:45

because the priest buried our son, and he was really,

0:34:450:34:49

really nice at the time, so it means something.

0:34:490:34:51

So it will be the same priest who buried your baby who will be

0:34:530:34:56

marrying you, then?

0:34:560:34:57

-Where is Rory buried?

-Glenavon.

-Right, that's not too far.

0:34:590:35:02

Not too bad. So, actually the reason,

0:35:020:35:06

my cousin's wee boy died. He died at five months.

0:35:060:35:10

So we thought it would be nice,

0:35:100:35:12

-the two babies together, kind of thing.

-Yes.

0:35:120:35:15

-Did you have to start and buy a grave at that time?

-My cousin, she offered.

0:35:160:35:19

Because we wouldn't have known what to do.

0:35:190:35:21

-You don't expect anything like that to happen.

-No, you don't.

0:35:210:35:24

It's a really nice graveyard, actually.

0:35:240:35:27

If you like that sort of thing.

0:35:270:35:30

I wish we could get a family plot up there, but you never think

0:35:300:35:33

you're going to have to talk about these things, sure you don't?

0:35:330:35:39

-That's right.

-Until you have to.

0:35:390:35:41

-That's £40, please.

-Right.

-You want to pay by card or cash?

0:35:460:35:50

MUSIC: ORGAN PLAYS "CHAPEL OF LOVE"

0:35:500:35:53

Is it too heavy?

0:36:040:36:07

Does it mean a lot to you, to get married in a church?

0:36:220:36:25

It means...

0:36:250:36:28

I don't know.

0:36:280:36:30

The way I can describe it is, I think a lot of our renewed

0:36:320:36:37

faith came when Rory died, because if we didn't

0:36:370:36:41

believe in anything, we would have, I think, really, really floundered.

0:36:410:36:46

And we thought, we need to know that somebody is looking after him,

0:36:470:36:52

-and he is watching us.

-< Tracey!

0:36:520:36:55

Yes, I know. Mummy, wait a wee minute.

0:36:550:36:58

It's... There is a fear there, will it be OK?

0:37:000:37:03

Will we be able to cope on the day, you know?

0:37:050:37:08

Just hoping that it will, you know, so...

0:37:080:37:13

Yeah, you know.

0:37:130:37:15

So... Yeah, it's really... That's really it, you know.

0:37:160:37:21

I hope it will be OK on the day, and...Rory will be over us,

0:37:230:37:31

and looking after us.

0:37:310:37:33

We always wanted him to know that we were good parents,

0:37:340:37:40

that we would have been, so... So hopefully it will be OK

0:37:400:37:45

and not flounder like I'm floundering now.

0:37:450:37:48

# You begin another chapter in the book of life

0:37:490:37:54

# Love is a circle that surrounds you

0:37:560:38:02

# You can find it on the faces of your family and friends

0:38:020:38:09

# Love... #

0:38:090:38:12

Through these mysteries, they may be strengthened in love for one

0:38:120:38:15

another and for you, through Christ, our Lord. Amen.

0:38:150:38:20

Ryan, wear this ring as a sign of our love and fidelity.

0:38:200:38:23

-In the name of the Father...

-In the name of the Father...

0:38:230:38:25

-And of the Son...

-And of the Son...

-And of the Holy Spirit.

-And of the Holy Spirit.

0:38:250:38:29

They are now man and wife. You may kiss your bride.

0:38:330:38:35

And let's give them a big round of applause.

0:38:350:38:38

APPLAUSE

0:38:380:38:40

Congratulations.

0:38:410:38:43

OK.

0:38:450:38:47

CHURCH BELLS TOLL

0:38:510:38:53

CHORAL MUSIC PLAYS

0:38:560:39:00

In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, amen.

0:39:080:39:11

It is wonderful to see such a wonderful turnout

0:39:110:39:15

for Cemetery Sunday.

0:39:150:39:16

Some of us don't feel very much like celebrating today.

0:39:160:39:21

In spite of the sunshine and the lovely weather, some of us

0:39:210:39:25

are here today under a great, heavy cloud of sorrow and grief.

0:39:250:39:31

This feast calls us to rejoice, to be glad and to celebrate life

0:39:330:39:39

and new beginnings.

0:39:390:39:41

Father, would you put a wee touch there?

0:39:430:39:46

Thank you very much.

0:39:460:39:47

I think your faith brightens your life for you, you know what I mean?

0:40:000:40:05

With Joan passing away on Christmas Eve,

0:40:060:40:09

if you just saw that, that's the end of it.

0:40:090:40:12

Life wouldn't be worth living.

0:40:120:40:15

You are always expecting some day somewhere you're going to meet her, you know?

0:40:150:40:19

And the rest of the family, like, you know?

0:40:190:40:21

So this is a thought. Most people have this thought, I think, too.

0:40:230:40:27

On the day that you are born, there is a date for you to die.

0:40:280:40:33

On the day you're born, there is a date for being born

0:40:350:40:39

and a date for dying. End of story.

0:40:390:40:41

What do you think?

0:40:410:40:42

Is it harder to fall in love the second time round?

0:41:190:41:23

I don't think you're necessarily looking for it.

0:41:230:41:26

When you're younger, you might be looking for it,

0:41:260:41:31

you might be looking to tick the boxes.

0:41:310:41:34

You get to the end of school, you might go on and do university,

0:41:340:41:36

you get a job, you find someone, you fall in love, you get married,

0:41:360:41:39

you have kids. You've got to tick the boxes.

0:41:390:41:42

And some people might be trying to force finding those boxes to tick.

0:41:420:41:45

Are you describing yourself there?

0:41:450:41:47

HE CHUCKLES

0:41:470:41:49

Was there a day that you realised, hang on, this isn't going to last?

0:41:490:41:54

There were certainly some days when I thought, this isn't working.

0:41:540:41:57

But...

0:41:590:42:01

..there were reasons why I just kept going.

0:42:030:42:06

Love isn't necessarily the bolt from the blue, rose petals and champagne.

0:42:080:42:14

Does your present girlfriend feel the same?

0:42:170:42:21

Um...I don't know, we haven't discussed love.

0:42:210:42:25

How long have you been together?

0:42:260:42:29

Now we've got to think. Six years.

0:42:290:42:32

-Six years.

-You must have discussed something like love.

0:42:320:42:37

It's possible we have discussed love, but it might have taken

0:42:370:42:41

a great intake of alcohol, and as a result, we don't remember.

0:42:410:42:45

Hello, Guy.

0:42:500:42:51

This has probably gone cold.

0:42:510:42:54

Maybe I shouldn't show you this,

0:42:550:42:57

-but I've got a brand-new copy of 50 Shades Of Grey.

-What's it about?

0:42:570:43:03

It's filth, just... Guy, it's just...

0:43:030:43:06

Um... It's about an innocent girl called

0:43:060:43:11

Anastasia Steele, and she meets Mr Christian Grey,

0:43:110:43:15

who is a billionaire and is into um...

0:43:150:43:17

..just... He's into different stuff and...

0:43:200:43:26

he likes his women to be submissive, and he would be the dominant one.

0:43:260:43:33

And that's putting it nicely. It's... It's quite a book.

0:43:350:43:41

Have you read it? No.

0:43:440:43:46

Well, there's a bit where there is two silver balls...

0:43:470:43:50

LAUGHTER

0:43:500:43:51

They're not his!

0:43:510:43:53

I never heard tell of such things.

0:43:560:43:58

Well, they do end up getting married, you know,

0:43:580:44:01

so it doesn't mean they continuously just live in sin.

0:44:010:44:06

-Is the physical side of a marriage important?

-Yes, it's very important.

0:44:060:44:11

It's not the be all and end all,

0:44:120:44:15

but it's important within a relationship, I think.

0:44:150:44:19

-Wendy, you're married far longer than I am.

-37 years, yes.

0:44:190:44:23

Yes, it is important, no two ways about it. It is important.

0:44:230:44:26

It is one of these, I am sitting in a meeting, the door opens,

0:44:420:44:45

she walks in and bang, that was it. It was one of them.

0:44:450:44:48

-Some Enchanted Evening.

-Some Enchanted Evening, yes.

0:44:480:44:50

-That was in 2004.

-And this is where it has all led to.

0:44:500:44:55

-This is where it has all led to.

-She walked in the door and now there is a wedding coming.

0:44:550:44:59

-How did you get into the baking?

-My wife. Unfortunately, she passed away.

0:44:590:45:02

She was a cook, too. So that is where my daughter gets it from.

0:45:020:45:07

And have you inherited any of the cooking skills?

0:45:070:45:09

-A wee bit, a wee bit.

-Victoria sponge.

0:45:090:45:11

Don't mention the Victoria sponge.

0:45:110:45:13

So are you going to have a Maltesers cake?

0:45:130:45:15

No, this is just traditional fruit.

0:45:150:45:17

-You know the way you normally have pillars in between?

-Yes.

0:45:170:45:20

-I have decided to use four Tyrone Crystal glasses.

-Ooh!

-So I have.

0:45:200:45:24

So it's going to be the cake and the colour round the bottom with the

0:45:240:45:27

ribbon and then four Tyrone Crystal glasses and then the cake on top.

0:45:270:45:31

So you're going to have a layer of cake and then you're going

0:45:330:45:36

to have the Tyrone glasses between your base layer and your top layer.

0:45:360:45:40

Do you have to reinforce your icing or anything?

0:45:400:45:43

What I'll do, I'll put... You know them dowel rods you can get?

0:45:430:45:47

You cut them and that actually puts the downforce down through the cake,

0:45:470:45:50

so it doesn't push into the icing. So...

0:45:500:45:54

So you put your dowel rods into the cake first,

0:45:540:45:57

-then your glass on top.

-So it is sitting like that.

0:45:570:46:01

-Like a support pillar.

-Like a support pillar.

-Yeah.

0:46:010:46:04

Why DO people fall in love? I don't know.

0:46:080:46:13

I've been lucky enough to fall in love twice.

0:46:130:46:15

-Once with your mum and now Amanda.

-Is once not good enough?

-Pardon?

0:46:150:46:19

-Is once not good enough?

-No, once is not good enough. No.

0:46:190:46:22

The dowel rods are in that bag.

0:46:240:46:26

Just put that in the bag.

0:46:280:46:29

-Want me to squish the lumps out for you?

-No... Yes.

0:46:340:46:38

-That's a photograph of Amanda.

-Yes.

-So she's marrying your dad.

-Yes.

0:46:420:46:48

-When did you propose?

-What was the date? Three years ago?

0:46:500:46:57

We actually went down, the first date we had was on a park bench in Antrim.

0:46:570:47:01

I actually took her down to the same park,

0:47:010:47:05

put her in the same chair and just got down on one knee and said,

0:47:050:47:08

"Look, Amanda, we've been going out so long, will you marry me?"

0:47:080:47:11

That was it.

0:47:110:47:13

-And then...

-Then went home to tell the kids.

0:47:130:47:16

And what was your reaction, Alistair?

0:47:160:47:18

Alistair actually... How do I put it?

0:47:180:47:25

He went into shock, I would say, because he thought we might have to move house and change schools

0:47:250:47:30

and all this, but to be honest, nothing has changed.

0:47:300:47:33

The kids are still going to the same school.

0:47:330:47:35

-That wasn't the reason.

-Why?

-At that time, my mum was still alive.

-Yeah.

0:47:350:47:42

And at that time, I didn't want them to get married when she was still alive.

0:47:420:47:46

But it worked out, didn't it?

0:47:500:47:54

-Things can only get better.

-Also, I still love your mum.

0:47:540:47:57

I was down the other day with her. Putting flowers on her grave.

0:47:570:48:00

Just trying to get my edges straight.

0:48:020:48:04

Alistair unfortunately didn't really know his mum that well.

0:48:070:48:11

Unfortunately, she took ill when she was very, very young.

0:48:110:48:14

Six months after Alistair was born, she actually fell out of bed.

0:48:170:48:21

Would she mind going into the nursing home, just for a week,

0:48:210:48:24

maybe a fortnight, just to give me a bit of time with the kids

0:48:240:48:27

and get my head round things.

0:48:270:48:29

Once she went into the home physically,

0:48:290:48:31

her health just deteriorated, so it did.

0:48:310:48:34

She was there 14 years.

0:48:340:48:37

-14 years?

-14 years she was in the nursing home.

0:48:410:48:43

Alistair, would you visit your mum a lot? When she was in the home?

0:48:470:48:53

About once a week I'd go up.

0:48:530:48:56

Because we weren't sure whether she could hear or see us.

0:48:560:48:59

I would have taken the local newspaper,

0:48:590:49:02

so I would and actually read to her, but that's the problem,

0:49:020:49:05

we don't know whether she could hear me or not.

0:49:050:49:08

-So the wedding is a big deal.

-It's a big deal, yeah.

0:49:080:49:11

All weddings should be big deals.

0:49:130:49:15

Alistair, what do you make of the whole concept about marriage

0:49:170:49:20

and weddings?

0:49:200:49:22

If two people love each other,

0:49:220:49:25

they should be allowed to marry each other.

0:49:250:49:28

That's me there. I'm just going to put this on top,

0:49:310:49:35

to stop the cats getting at it while it dries for a day or two.

0:49:350:49:40

DOG BARKS

0:49:400:49:43

And how are you keeping, all right?

0:50:070:50:09

-Who?

-You.

-Me? I'm keeping OK.

0:50:090:50:11

So far, anyway.

0:50:130:50:14

-What's that under the TV?

-That wee black box? That's my other dog. Sandy.

0:50:200:50:25

It was supposed to go in Roy's coffin, but they wouldn't allow it.

0:50:250:50:28

Although I don't see what harm it could have done.

0:50:290:50:32

-And where's Roy's ashes now?

-There scattered over the sea.

0:50:340:50:39

-Have you got any of them?

-In that wee thing. Only a wee skimpy bit.

0:50:400:50:44

But it is hard to open, and you can spill it if you try to open it.

0:50:440:50:49

-It's not so easy to open.

-Did you spill some of it?

-Some of it!

0:50:490:50:54

-Where?

-Somewhere in here, I think.

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He'll come back and haunt me.

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After Roy died, and he was cremated and all, I saw four ghosts,

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and the fourth one was Roy's face. And he had his own hair back.

0:51:110:51:16

And all he did was smile at me and that was it.

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-Did you say anything to him?

-No.

0:51:190:51:23

-Was it nice?

-Yes, nice to see him. Nice to see him smiling.

0:51:260:51:33

-Where do you think he is now, Sally?

-Not a clue. Somewhere up there.

0:51:390:51:44

-Hi, Molly.

-Have you got my trousers?

-Pardon?

0:52:150:52:18

-Have you got my trousers?

-Which ones?

0:52:180:52:20

Cold, that way now!

0:52:200:52:22

Ha-ha-ha!

0:52:220:52:23

MUSIC: "Say You Say Me" by Lionel Richie

0:52:280:52:32

Pardon? Who's he? I'm checking to make sure they are clean.

0:52:330:52:38

# Say you, say me

0:52:380:52:42

# Say it for always

0:52:440:52:46

# That's the way it should be

0:52:480:52:50

# Say you, say me

0:52:530:52:57

# Say it together

0:52:590:53:03

# Naturally... #

0:53:030:53:05

Now, George, will you solemnly promise that you will honour

0:53:080:53:12

and cherish her in sickness and in health, for richer, for poorer, and

0:53:120:53:16

that in all things, you will be to her a faithful and loving husband?

0:53:160:53:21

I will.

0:53:210:53:22

-Amanda.

-I will.

-And come to the exchange of rings.

0:53:220:53:26

-It won't go on.

-It will!

0:53:280:53:30

Alistair, keep it short and sweet. Thank you, Alistair.

0:53:370:53:41

APPLAUSE

0:53:410:53:43

As he has pointed out,

0:53:480:53:49

I have forgotten to print out my speech,

0:53:490:53:51

so I would like to thank Amanda and George for this very nice meal we

0:53:510:53:55

are about to have. He said short and sweet, so there you go.

0:53:550:53:59

LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:53:590:54:02

# Don't close your eyes

0:54:070:54:10

# Let it be me

0:54:100:54:13

# Don't pretend it's him

0:54:130:54:16

# In some fantasy

0:54:160:54:19

# Darling, just once

0:54:190:54:23

# Let yesterday go... #

0:54:230:54:26

WHISTLE BLOWS

0:54:260:54:28

Well done!

0:54:330:54:35

Where's the fucking linesman?

0:54:380:54:40

All the best.

0:54:420:54:43

-Yes, all right, good to see you. Good to see you.

-Here, I meant to ask you.

-Yes. Go ahead.

0:54:450:54:49

Were you down here when my two great uncles were down here, Beefy and Buttons?

0:54:490:54:53

Yes, Beefy Hunter played when I was playing.

0:54:530:54:57

-Buttons as well?

-I have a good memory, haven't I?

0:54:570:54:59

INDISTINCT CHATTER

0:55:020:55:05

-What are you doing?

-When did you used to play here, Arthur?

0:55:120:55:16

I played with the Crusaders from 1949 to 1953.

0:55:160:55:19

That's Joan. Joan Josephine Brady.

0:55:270:55:29

All the best.

0:55:380:55:39

-Is it getting any easier, Arthur?

-Eh?

-Is it getting any easier?

0:55:430:55:47

It never will, and I don't want it to.

0:55:470:55:49

Because if it gets any easier, all is lost. You give up.

0:55:510:55:58

I would never give up for her. So I wouldn't. Never.

0:55:580:56:03

I don't think it'll ever get any easier.

0:56:050:56:07

And to get any easier, I would have to forget,

0:56:070:56:09

and I don't want to forget.

0:56:090:56:11

MUSIC: "Who Knows Where The Time Goes?" by Sandy Denny

0:56:140:56:17

# And I am not alone

0:56:170:56:20

# While my love is near me

0:56:210:56:28

# Before the winter fire

0:56:300:56:33

# I will still be dreaming

0:56:370:56:41

# I have no fear of time

0:56:480:56:51

# For who knows how my love grows?

0:56:560:57:04

# And who knows where the time goes? #

0:57:060:57:15

Who's next, please?

0:57:160:57:18

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