Peter Higgs: Scotland's Nobel Winner


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Everything around us, from the ground we stand on, to the air we

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breathe, and the sky above us, is all made of the same fundamental

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stuff. How it all stuck together was a mystery, until one man came up

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with a theory. Here in Stockholm, tomorrow afternoon, that man will be

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awarded the Nobel Prize for Physics. It's unquestionably the greatest

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honour in his field and marks the culmination of a story that has

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lasted half a century. Peter Higgs published a scientific

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paper in 1964, it took almost 50 years, and the construction of the

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largest and most complex machine in human history to prove the theory he

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had come up with while working at Edinburgh University. This is the

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story of how a quiet, modest man became a physics superstar and why

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he is now here in Stockholm to become Scotland's newest Nobel

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Laureate. Earlier this year, I interviewed

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Peter Higgs about the recent discovery of the Higgs boson, the

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subatomic particle he predicted almost 50 years ago. I asked whether

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he paid any attention to the speculation surrounding the

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discovery? Do you see yourself as a contender for a Nobel Prize? Well,

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yes, obviously. I should say that it... It's not particularly new as

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a, well, as a promise or a threat, or however you perceive it,

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because... I mean the first outbreak of publicity, at least in the

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particle physics community, came with this conference in 1972. An old

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friend of mine, one of his colleagues at the time he visited

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Edinburgh in 1980 was on the Nobel Committee and revealed that my name

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was already on their list then. So, I was made aware of what would...

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What might happen if the experimentalists eventually found

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the thing. Peter Higgs has won the Nobel Prize for Physics, one of the

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dwraet greatest achievements in science. That prediction was proved

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right quicker than his one about had been had been. In October, Peter

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Higgs and the Belgium professor, Francois Englert were named as this

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year's Nobel Laureates for the work they had done separately back in

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1964 in the field of particle physics. Peter Higgs doesn't do too

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many media interviews, he had to be coaxed into taking part in a press

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conference just a few days after the announcement. I wanted to catch up

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with the professor to see how he was coping with the worldwide attention

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the Nobel announcement had unleashed. I had given my colleagues

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the impression I was going off to hide somewhere in the western

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highlands. I said that some weeks ago. In the event, I didn't do that.

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I just made sure I was out to lunch on Tuesday when the announcement

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came. What was your reaction when you learned that you were a Nobel

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Laureate? Sort of relief that it was going to be over soon because it has

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been coming a long time. Last year, when I think the press office in the

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University of Edinburgh seemed to think it was coming that year, they

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managed to induce panic in me. I said it would be premature, I think

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I was right. I was really prepared for it. It was... I thought it was

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bound to happen pretty soon. Few people outside the world of particle

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physics knew much about Peter Higgs, that was until last year when this

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happened. A discovery by scientists at the CERN laboratory near Geneva

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is being ranked alongside those of Newton and Einstein. Scientists say

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they have found a particle which is vital to understanding how the

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physical fabric of the universe is held together. What exactly is the

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Higgs boson and why did it take so long to find it? It is really

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simple, well the answers are quite complicated, but the fundamental

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questions are straight-forward enough. Think about stuff.

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Everything is made of it. It's easy to take it for granted. Why is this

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shaped like this? Why does the world, the universe around us, all

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cling together and take shape? The matter which makes up us, the

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world and everything is made of atoms and Deepwater inside them the

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fundamental particles that aren't made up of anything smaller some of

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them have mass. Mass make it is possible for those fundamental

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particles to bind together to start forming, well, all this stuff. What

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exactly does that mean? Time to go back to university. Mass is

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eventually a lump of matter, according to Chambers Dictionary

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it's a collection of coherent body of madder. What is the difference

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between that and weight? Well, this duster weighs something. If I drop

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it, gravity will pull it towards the centre of the earth. It if I took

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this into the weightlessness of space, it will still have mass. You

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would still need energy to push it about. But back at the Big Bang, how

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did some fundamental particles acquire that mass and start sticking

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together and to the things we see around us? That's what Peter Higgs

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set out to solve. Who is he? Peter Higgs was born in 1929, he was a

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bookish child, and by the time he reached the end of his secondary

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schooling, he was clearly heading towards science. I was going in the

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direction of theoretical physics by then, for various reasons,ing one

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being my interest in structure of matter at this deeper level than

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chemistry provided. And, in terms of my abilities I clearly had some

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mathematical skills and it wasn't clear what sort of skills I had. You

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know, other kinds of activity in physics. In fact, I was already, I

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think, at the age of 18, showing signs of being incompetent in the

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lab. Undeterred, Peter studied physics at King's College London

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where he was drawn towards the new theories dealing with fundamental

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particles. The science journalist Ian Sample has written about Peter

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and the history of the Higgs boson. He would stuff up experiments left

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right and centre. He was lucky in joining King's College when they

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just introduced a theoretical physics module. He was the first one

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to take it in his year. Around this time he obviously started to shine

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in that area. One of the issues that the course tutors had was, here we

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had one guy, on a course, theoretical physics, all the other

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students have to do exams when they finish their year, what do we do

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about Peter Higgs? We have never set this course before. They scratched

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their chins and instead of coming up with a question for him to answer in

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the exam, an exam for him to ina, they look in the literature they go

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flirting around in the new academic journals. They found a paper that

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had come out, Higgs Higgs wouldn't have seen, can't really have known

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about, they reword the paper, the question in the paper and they set

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it for Peter as a question. Just to see how he will get on. What is

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lovely about it, Peter sits the exam and answers the question correctly,

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he comes up with an elegant solution than the original author who had

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written the paper. His tutor was blown away. That gives you an idea

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that Peter was something special, at least when it came to theoretical

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physics. In the early 1960s Peter moved to Edinburgh University where

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he would spend the rest of his career. It was in Edinburgh that he

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wrote two academic papers which would change our understanding of

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the universe. A number of theoretical physicists around the

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world were trying to explain how some fundamental particles came to

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have mass. Peter's papers explained how this could happen. The second

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was the more important. The penultimate paragraph that he put in

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that paper was the first time anyone mentioned, if these theories are

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true, then you gate new particle that weighs something. That is what

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becomes known as the Higgs boson. So that second paper is where the idea

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of a new particle first appears in print. He is the first one to

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suggest it will happen. That paper then goes on to become this

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absolutely seminal paper in physics. Of all the physicists working in

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this area, only Peter Higgs stated explicitly that there would be a

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particle, a boson, that's what makes him important.

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Scientists are essentially model makers, they observe, build a

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theoretical model and then test it. In particle physics they have built

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what is known as the "standard model" it explains the relationship

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between the fundamental bits and pieces of "stuff." Every time the

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scientists built the model of the fundamental building blocks of

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matter, they found there was a problem. There was a bit missing.

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How did the particles that had mass, get their mass in the first place?

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It was Peter Higgs who came up with the missing piece. His

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groundbreaking work described a need gave some particles mass, the way

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that gravity gives objects weight and he showed how we could see it.

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You think of the Higgs field as this field that pervades the vaccum,

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stretches throughout space, throughout everything, throughout

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you, throughout me, and it gives mass to the fundamental particles of

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nature. Things like electrons and other subatomic particles. The field

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is there to give mass to particles and the boson comes with the field.

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It tells you the field is there. If the field wasn't there, what would

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the union vicious be like -- universe be like? If the Higgs field

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was not around, as you say, then the fundamental particles that build up

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atoms wouldn't have any mass. That means those particles would be

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flying around at the speed of light. If everything is flying around at

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the speed of light, you can imagine that the universe, as we see it,

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won't be quite as we see it now. You wouldn't have the struck sturs we

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see. You will not have galaxies, stars and planets like we know them.

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You will not have life like we know, probably not life at all. You can't

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form the kind of particles and chemistry we have around today. You

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want to imagine how the Higgs field works it might help to have a real

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field like this one. If I shine a light across the photons don't get

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bogged down, they slip across them. I'm moving slowly in the mud. If I

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was playing football the with a ball would get bogged down. That is how

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the Higgs field work. The more you are bogged down in it, the more mass

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you have. The difference is of course this field is only two

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dimensioned, the Higgs field is in every direction across the universe.

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That's my go at coming up withen analogy for what, after all, is an

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invisible and universal field describable only in very complex

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mathematics. Better qualified people have made a better fist of it. The

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Royal Society of Edinburgh promotes learning around the world. Its

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exhibition includes other analogies. This is the sort of problem that

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people like me have to now face, which is to try and explain this to

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a general audience. This is one of the way that is it's done. It's like

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a famous scientists entering a cocktail party. That's the

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mechanism, people cluster around, it increases the mass of the scientists

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a people cluster around him. Is that a satisfactory explanation for you?

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Well, it's not the way I would do it myself. It's... It's satisfactory to

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me, in the sense that I think it not obviously misleading. So I don't

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object to this particularly because if I go into a crowded room, I don't

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actually slow down gradually, I sort of zig-zag my way through avoiding

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people. My speed may not be reduced very much, but the rate at which I

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move across the room is reduced by all these people. That's not too bad

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as an explanation. Peter Higgs published his work on the boson in

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1964. In physics, ideas can take time, and it would be a decade or so

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before others began building on Peter's work. What was he doing in

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those years? John Jowett was a student of Peters in the 1970s. I

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had quite a few courses from him on things like group theory,

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electrodynamics, I remember them well. His courses were tough. They

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were very good. He had a different slant from most other lecturers. He

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went quite fast. It was good stuff. I mean, for the specialists I think

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he was already a kind of rock star, if you like, if you want to say

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that. People saw this was a very elegant, fundamental mechanism very

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important in physics. It was a long way from experimental test. That was

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the trouble. For a long time all this physics remained theory. Others

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checked the maths of Peter's work and moved it forward. Who could --

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how could anyone prove that the Higgs boson, and so the Higgs field,

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actually existed? In the mid 1970s, a new breed of experimental

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physicists said they could do just that. So began the era of big

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physics. When that has happened, we should know whether this that ?400

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million gamble established Europe as a clear leader in particle physics

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and whether we are closer to finding that theory of everything. It was

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like Peter Higgs had written the sheet music but someone had to

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whether -- build the piano to play it.

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The energy released in these head on collisions would replicate the first

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split seconds after the Big Bang. On the biggest and most powerful

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collider was built right in the heart of Europe. To see it, you have

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to travel to the outskirts of Geneva.

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This is CERN, the European European Organisation for Nuclear Research.

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It is a vast multinational project where scientists gather to conduct

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some of the most complex experiments ever conceived. Everybody has heard

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of CERN these days, but it has a history of almost 60 years of

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searching for the fundamental building blocks of matter. That

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thing over there, for example, it used to be part of an assembly that

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collided matter with anti-matter. That is such old hat nowadays now

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they have the Large Hadron Collider. Here's what it does. The Large

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Hadron Collider is the biggest machine ever. It is 27 kilometres

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round and took almost a decade to build. It's 100 meters below ground

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and fires particle beams together, each travelling at almost the speed

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of light. When they collide head on, huge detectors analyse the results

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and look for new fundamental particles in the hunt for the Higgs

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boson two detectors had to confirm the results, Atlas andkm. -- CPS. --

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CMS. Atlas is the biggest of the four detectors. It's 45 meters long.

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25 meters high. So like five storey building. It's the biggest

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experiment which is run by an international collaboration made of

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3,000 physicists from all over the world. We have a strong team from

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Edinburgh University. The funny thing about the Higgs boson, when

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you give talks about the Higgs years ago it was a joke. We know

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everything about it, except whether or not it exists and what its mass

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is. Once you know the mass, you know everything about it. Not knowing

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what the mass was it could have been found very early if it were very

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light. It wasn't that we didn't look for it, OK. In fact, in the years

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proceeding last year, whatever that was, 45 years after the idea came

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out, I think for the majority of that time people were looking one

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way or another. We were looking, for sure. All through this period we

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were looking. We never had, we never had an instrument that would allow

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us to look everywhere. We had to look where we could, under the

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lampposts that we had, so to speak. The Large Hadron Collider was

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switched on in 2008. Last summer rumours started to come out of CERN

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that something had been found. CERN were desperately trying to contact

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Peter Higgs and his colleague Alan Walker. There were more and more

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messages coming saying, a, something interesting will be announced on

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July 4th. It came clear as the week went on that more people were coming

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to CERN if you like from the people who contributed in this area. It was

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only Peter who was not going to be there. It became inevitable when we

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got a phone call saying that, "I think Peter should come to CERN" an

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email saying, "I think Peter should come to CERN otherwise he might

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regret it." I had to rebook our flights. Here at CERN, history was

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made in the Large Hadron Collider, 100 meters below my feet. History

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was announced here in this auditorium on July 4th 2012. People

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weren't sure exactly what was going to be announced. They knew it was

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going to be something pretty moment muss when they noticed that Peter

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Higgs was sitting just over there. I think we have success today. We have

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a discovery, we have discovered a new particle, a boson. Most probably

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a Higgs boson. I was caught off guard during the presentation when

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people erupted into applause. There was a gasp in the audience. I

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remember I then stopped and just said, I thought to myself, I will

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linger here for a minute. I said something like, "I was lost here a

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second" I meant to say I was lost in the beauty (inaudible). Many people

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thought I had spaced out. It was a strong reaction. Peter Higgs was in

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tears. I'd never been in a scientific

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meeting like that before because people got up and cheered and stamp

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and... It was a completely new experience. You must accept they

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were cheering you? I didn't accept it was me that they were cheering. I

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regarded it as... As cheers for the home team, as at a football match,

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the home team were the two experiments, Atlas and CMS with

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1,500 members each. That was what it was really about, maybe they were

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cheering me too, but that was a minor issue. But while Peter Higgs

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is almost painfully modest, his peers recognise his achievements.

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Well, Peter Higgs is a genius. It's just, you know, he just... He got

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just the right idea. Sometimes you need this kind of revolutionary

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ideas. This hint of genius, I will say, the big ingenuity to make a big

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step forward. To have done something that impacted so many people, that

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has such a big impact worldwide, such a big impact on science. To see

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that kind of evolving over decades, but coming to such a nice form of

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closure, so to speak, where you have definitive evidence, there is no

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question about it, this is now a big part of science. I think that would

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have to move anyone. Yet, back home and mulling over his elevation to

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the Nobel Laureatship, Peter Higgs remains a deeply modest man. The

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award of the Nobel Prize for Physics puts you in a pantheon of people who

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inspired you, Nambu, people who inspired the rest of us, like

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Einstein. Do you feel comfortable in that company now? Not very, no. I

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mean because I think the people that you have mentioned did vastly more

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than I ever did. I mean, I'm getting the prize for something which took

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me two or three weeks in 1964. It is a very small amount of my life.

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Whereas the achievement of people like, well, if you take Einstein,

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for example, his achievements were several orders of magnitude greater.

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The members of the Nobel Committee very obviously don't agree with

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Peter Higgs' modest self-assessment. This is the Royal Swedish Academy of

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Sciences. Here we have the old session hall of the Royal Swedish

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Academy of Sciences. It's here that the press conference is every year

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at the Nobel Prize announcements which is usually in the beginning of

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October. Is the desk from which the announcement was made? That is the

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exact desk, yes. Where does the award of the Nobel Prize for Physics

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put Peter Higgs now? What does it say about him? Oh, it says he is

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definitely one of the most important figures in physics and, of course

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his discovery, this remarkable discovery, that there should be a

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particle, named after him, as it should be, that was a very

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interesting theory, had been for very long, it wasn't proven until

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last year when one was found in two experiments in CERN. It puts him

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alongside people like Einstein, he doesn't accept that, does he? Well,

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in some sense he should because what really counts here for the Nobel

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Prize is impact of the theory, the idea, the discovery or invention, in

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some cases. That it should be the greatest discovery or invention.

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This is without doubt a remarkable theoretical discovery from the

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1960s. The Nobel Prize is a serious business and guarded passionately,

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but it is also celebrated and respected. Curator Gustav Kallstrand

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showed me around the noble Museum. When you look at the Noble Award

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Ceremony you seep the Nobel Laureates accepting your prize you

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feel you are like at wedding. It's a life altering day. It's an important

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day of these people's lives. You get the feeling for that. For a man in

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his mid 80s it's clearing the culmination of a life's work. But

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you are still an Emeritus professor. You fly around the world to give

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prizes. Are you going to take it easier? I'm hoping to retire at 85

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next year. Flying around the world giving lectures is a recent

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phenomenon because of the build-up to the discovery at CERN. For many

:26:29.:26:35.

years I had a quiet time in retirement I scarcely ever went out

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to my old department at King's Buildings. One of the embarrassing

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things about being Professor of Emeritus I discovered the email

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address in the university, which I really didn't want to have because

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the email arrived out at King's Buildings, I wasn't there, I had to

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keep it. My family dissuaded me from trying to resign the title of

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Professor Emeritus to get rid of it. Before that findal retirement there

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is a little business to be attended to. This is Stockholm's Concert

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Hall. It's here where Sweden's King Carl Gustaf will make Peter Higgs

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this year's Nobel Laureate. It's the greatest honour at the end of a

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great career. Peter Higgs retired from teaching almost 20 years ago.

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His biggest idea came nearly half a century ago, the work he did then,

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the work that was carried forward by scientists at CERN and around the

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world continues to inspire. Future generations will take it even

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further. Just for a moment, science will pause here, in the stock to

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being Concert Hall as Peter Higgs steps onto this stage to rereceive

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the highest accolade science can bestow. What what do you think your

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thoughts will be at that moment? -- what do you think your thoughts will

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be at that moment? That's difficult to predict. I shall probably

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remember a Swedish film which I saw back in the 1950s, with I found

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rather moving, it was called Wild Strawberries, I think. Anyway, it

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Was about a Swedish professor who was travelling I think to the

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capital to receive some award and remember things from his youth. I

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shall probably feel the same way.

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