Alan Hansen: Player and Pundit


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ALAN HANSEN, ECHOING: 'Indecision is final...

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'Terrible defending...

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'No pace and passion...

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'Diabolical...

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'Woeful...

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'Shocking...

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'Abysmal...

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'Time and time again...

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'Effort, attitude, commitment...

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'You can't win anything with kids.'

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HE WHISTLES

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Last time, this walk.

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-Your last time, Alan?

-Last time, this walk.

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Do you want to go to the top?

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Final day of the season. One of the best seasons ever.

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Great time for me to go.

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Alan Hansen -

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football pundit,

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football player.

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He's a wee boy from Sauchie that made good.

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And here's Hansen...

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He made very good. Exceptionally good.

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A special one.

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He was a great player.

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He just oozed class. He was a fantastic player.

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Absolutely top, top drawer.

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And Hansen moving up again.

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He's been menacing in that role so far.

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He was just so different to what was around at that time.

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And he's through, and he checked and he scored.

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His reading of the game...

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He always seemed to have great composure and time on the ball.

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He's fearless.

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Never afraid to criticise even his best friends.

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Only the best players in the world can do that.

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He'd just say, "Al, you're rubbish."

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That's what he used to say. "Al, you're rubbish."

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Let me tell you, I had plenty ammunition.

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THEY LAUGH

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Never rubbish, but never quite what you expect either.

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He will now score!

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People think he's super-confident,

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but he's actually really shy and insecure.

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Came on the show, nervous as a cat.

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-He froze.

-Absolutely. I froze.

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It was worse than that.

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And who and what does he truly love?

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He'd rather watch the golf!

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She's sweet and she's lovely, and he's horrible and he's miserable.

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On the TV, he's quite a serious, hard man,

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whereas he is the total opposite at home.

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He was there on football's darkest days.

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Two guys came on the pitch,

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and you could tell from the sadness in his eyes...

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He wasn't making it up. He says, "Al, there's people dying in there."

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And he reinvented himself under the bright lights

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and became king of the pundits.

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-Too right.

-He was the original, wasn't he?

-He's so good.

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If he's saying something on Match of the Day,

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then people take his word.

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Not all his words.

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You can't win anything with kids.

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He almost ruined my life that night, watching Match of the Day.

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It acted as kind of a motivational theme throughout the season, really.

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It was a line that made me!

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PHONE RINGS

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That's my phone!

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THEY LAUGH Turn it off.

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Almost an institution as far as Match of the Day's concerned,

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so I'm sure there'll be lots of us that are sorry to see him go.

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He's worked with the best.

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THEY CHEER WILDLY

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Any of you boys scored coming on as a substitute this season?

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-Not this season, no.

-No. No?

-No.

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Any of you boys scored at all this season?

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LAUGHTER

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-No.

-No.

-Well, that's fair enough.

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-He has been the best.

-What are you talking about?

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'Can you get me Alan Hansen's autograph?'

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LAUGHTER

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-'I suppose so.'

-Brilliant!

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And now, Alan Hansen,

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my friend Alan Hansen, is calling it a day.

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What was the young Alan Hansen like?

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I was born in this mining village called Sauchie that...

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There were two choices, you either played football or played football.

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There was nothing else.

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John's the eldest, I'm the middle, and Alan was the baby.

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He's always been my wee brother, and always looked out for him.

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He was a very easy-going child.

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I think the way often third children are, everyone was fond of him.

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He winds me up constantly,

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but I know that there is this deep affection between both of us

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and my sister as well.

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When I got to secondary school at age 11, Jim Cousin,

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who was a history teacher,

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who had also been a professional footballer...

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his encouragement was total.

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Come on!

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He was the one that was taking me to the Scotland schoolboy trials

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and telling me, basically, that I was a great player,

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and I would have a tremendous future in the game,

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and I never, ever believed him, really.

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This way!

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I used to watch him playing and I was amazed at

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how proficient he was at the game.

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He was outstanding.

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He was absolutely tremendous in controlling a ball.

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It never bounced away from him.

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He always had it under perfect control, and he either went on

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an amazing dribble or he would put lovely passes on to other players.

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But he loved golf.

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Sometimes in the morning, I think he went out

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and had a game before he even went into football in the morning.

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We played three rounds every day, and we were relatively young,

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and he was always following me to the golf and I was...

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HE SCOFFS

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because I would be playing with big boys, and he'd chase me,

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and he wanted to play with me, and I threw him into a bunker,

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and a man came over and started shouting at me, and I said,

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"It's OK, he's my wee brother."

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As though that made it OK to throw him in the bunker!

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Golf's always been my first love.

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I stopped playing football at 15 and 17 to concentrate on golf.

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Right? My brother was playing football at the time,

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and he thought I was crazy.

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He just wanted to play golf. That's all he wanted to do.

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He played football as a side thing, but he was a golfer.

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Much to the dismay of my father,

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who always wanted me to be a footballer.

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Just to placate him, I went on trial at Hibs

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when I was 17, and it was a week before I was playing in

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the Scottish Boys' Stroke Play at Montrose, and Eddie Turnbull,

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after five days, brought me into his office, he was the manager,

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brings me in the office, and says,

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"Right, we want to sign you on professional forms."

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And I said, "Well, I'm just playing.

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"I'm going to Montrose to play in the Scottish Boys' Stroke Play.

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"I'm never playing football again." He says, "What? You're an idiot!

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I said, "No, no, I'm a golfer."

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I said, "I came here just to placate my father."

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He said, "Well, you've got a real chance here."

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I said, "Well, I don't care.

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"I'm going to play golf," and off I went.

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I was surprised when he switched from golf to football,

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because he desperately wanted to be a golfer.

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I'm pretty sure the time it changed it for him,

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we played Celtic in the League Cup final.

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'Partick Thistle, very much the outsiders.

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'Celtic in the home shirts.'

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Commentator, Archie Macpherson.

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Up comes Hansen for this...

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We were underdogs, Celtic were...

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They had won the league title ten years in a row.

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And it's there! It's a goal!

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They'd won the European Cup six or seven...

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What a goal!

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We had just been promoted from the league below us.

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And it's almost there...

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It's a goal! It's number three for Thistle.

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Almost unbelievably!

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But we won 4-1.

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A good ball in there. It is a goal!

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The final score for Partick Thistle, 4-1,

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the first time they've ever won the Scottish League Cup.

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And believe it or not,

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there were people who gave them no chance at all.

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CHEERING

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When we came off the park at the end, I looked up to the stand

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and I saw Alan sitting in the front row, and I've never, ever

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seen him so animated, and I think that was his time he realised.

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"I think I'm going to want to be a footballer here."

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Seeing the adulation, I think, for the players and the success,

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and how it was possible for dreams to come true,

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I can imagine that that would have had a huge impact on Alan.

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I was meant to be going to Aberdeen University to study history.

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I was a historian.

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Somebody then says, you're better becoming a PE teacher,

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because I played four different sports.

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Never got into the PE college.

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What am I going to do? Partick came and said, "Right, well,

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"we'll give you this to sign on, we'll give you this a week,"

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and I took it. And the rest is history.

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-Football, in many ways, was just a last resort.

-Well, it was.

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It was great for us being at Sauchie,

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because they kept our feet on the ground,

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and it was great going to Partick,

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because it was just a fantastic team.

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The Hansen brothers together at Partick.

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The Jags.

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Nobody at Firhill got above himself, either.

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I had four great years at Partick, you know.

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If you think a crowd in England are cynical, in Scotland,

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multiply it by 100,000.

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And at Partick, they'd be shouting, "Hansen, you're a waste of time.

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"Hansen, you're this..." And I was one of the favourites!

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-They were right!

-They were right as well!

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They were spot on.

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# Here I am stuck in the middle with you... #

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It was very difficult playing with him.

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Because he was really skilful and I was a really fast runner.

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He always assumed that you could do what he could do.

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And obviously, we couldn't.

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Was the young Alan Hansen cocky, know-it-all?

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-Mmm...I was very, very shy and introvert.

-Really?

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I really was. I mean, I went to Liverpool at 21,

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totally inadequate. You know, I felt right out of my depth,

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and I was so nervous going there, I just didn't want to be there.

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I didn't want to leave Scotland.

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I think it probably surprised people

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when you say "I was a nervous individual."

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-Are you still nervous to this day?

-Well, I'm...

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I mean, I've seen you on shows...

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I'm more nervous than ever.

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People think he's super-confident, but he's actually really shy

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and insecure and...

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Even after all these years on Match of the Day,

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he's still really nervous.

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The more experienced I got at Liverpool, I'm thinking,

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"The nerves'll disappear." But they never. They got worse.

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The nervous 21-year-old was signed by Liverpool in 1977.

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Anfield, the Kop, tests of anyone's nerves.

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CROWD SING

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I used to sit in the Liverpool dressing room in '77.

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They thought I was the coolest character ever,

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because I never warmed up, I'd sit there with a programme

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singing the Billy Joel song Don't Go Changing.

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# Don't go changing... #

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And, like, they'd look at me and go...

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"That's unreal, for a kid."

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I mean, but underneath it, I am, like, churning.

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-What was the feeling?

-The feeling was just...sickness.

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-Were you scared? Of failure?

-Yes, just scared.

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Ten minutes to go, the bell goes to go out onto the pitch.

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So I'd been stretching off and doing whatever, I said, "Alan.

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"Are you not going to get warmed up?"

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"Oh," he says, "Yeah." Just stands up.

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Gives it one of them and goes back in.

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"All right. Let's go."

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HE LAUGHS

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And he walks out onto the pitch!

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But as soon as I touched the sign, got down the tunnel,

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-not a nerve in my body.

-How did you play in your first game?

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I played very well. It was the second game I didn't play so well.

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And then we had a bad run.

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I think we had three defeats on the trot,

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and Bob Paisley went in the papers and said,

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"The only person playing well in the Liverpool back four is Alan Hansen."

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On the Saturday, reads the team sheet out,

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and I'm the only one not playing.

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I then go and see him on the Monday and say,

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"How can you say in the papers that I'm the only one playing well

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"and you leave me out on the Saturday?"

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He says, "Listen, son, the longer you play this game,

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"you'll realise that experience is everything."

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And he was spot on.

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But for the first year, I was tremendously homesick.

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Souness.

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And there's Dalglish through.

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And is that going in? Yes, it is!

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I went home in the summer and after winning the European Cup,

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didn't want to come back to Liverpool.

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We were worried he wasn't going to settle,

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and there was lots of stories in papers

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about players going to big clubs and getting led astray and...

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But the best thing, I have said often,

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the best thing that ever happened to him was he met Jan, and Jan...

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You know, he's besotted with her.

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Even now, he's still besotted with her.

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They couldn't have met at a better time.

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But what about those nerves?

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Would he fluff his opening lines?

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'We met in a club in Liverpool.'

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I didn't follow football,

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so I didn't know what he did, and actually,

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when we did start chatting, he said he worked in insurance.

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Do you think you settled in better into Liverpool when you met Janet?

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Oh, she was...I mean, my whole family says she saved me.

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I wouldn't go that far.

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He is bone idle. He is bone idle.

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He will play golf, he will go on holiday,

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he will try to do as little as possible.

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The only thing that is going to prevent him doing that is Jan.

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She's sweet and she's lovely, and he's horrible and miserable,

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so you just don't really put them together.

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'We got married in 1980.

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'In the June, and then we had Adam a year later,

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'next June, and Lucy three years after that.'

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They make a very good couple.

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I think Mum's probably the only person

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who Dad would ever concede he's wrong to.

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He's totally himself when he's at home.

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On the TV, he's quite a serious, hard man,

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whereas he is the total opposite at home.

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He has a very soft side,

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which I think he would be at pains to hide from people,

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and when the chips are down, you can count on Alan,

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you know, for support, for love.

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'You'll never, ever see him at fancy parties, showbiz parties.

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'You'll never, ever see him

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'on Strictly Come Dancing or anything like that.'

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He just wants to be home with his wife and kids.

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We go everywhere as a family. The kids have been great.

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-They're not kids any more.

-No, they're not, they're 32 and 29.

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The potential for them to grow up to be brats

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in that environment was immense,

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but you couldn't meet two nicer kids,

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and that's down to him and Jan,

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and that's, for me, that's his biggest achievement.

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Which is saying something.

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On the football field, Liverpool were flying.

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In seven seasons from 1978 they won the European Cup three times.

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The league five times.

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Four league cups.

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There would be more when he was captain.

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But this was the age of pure joy.

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In your playing career, so much success, highlight?

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-So many, I suppose.

-European Cup final '78.

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-Double winning captain, '86.

-'86.

-'86, great year, that.

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'84 in Rome. Amazing in Rome.

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We are in the tunnel and we've got three guys that play

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for Middlesbrough, Graeme Souness, Dave Hodgson and Craig Johnson.

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They start singing this Chris Rea song,

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I Don't Know What It Is But I Love It.

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And so everyone started singing it. The Roma players,

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they looked at us like we were off our head, and we were!

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Bruce Grobbelaar has a chat.

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Francisco Graziani against Bruce Grobbelaar. Graziani! Over the top.

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It was such a great night.

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Alan Kennedy has won the European Cup for Liverpool.

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To go in there and win a penalty shoot-out was fantastic.

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Liverpool have won it for the fourth time.

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And the cup is lifted and it glitters silver.

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Who is the best player you played with?

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Kenny was the best player. And then Graeme was next.

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I go to Liverpool as a 21-year-old, first Scotsman and then

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I get followed by a couple of lesser known Scots, Dalglish and Souness.

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Hansen at the back, Souness in midfield. Dalglish upfront.

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And that is absolutely outstanding finishing.

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They can still knock a ball around. Sort of.

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We're not in Florida, you know.

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Don't want to show the dandruff!

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Only the best players in the world can do that.

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He just said to me it's 30 years ago

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since we played in the European Cup final.

0:17:030:17:06

He remembers a ball he passed to me and I mis-controlled it.

0:17:060:17:09

He did that quite a bit, to be fair.

0:17:090:17:14

He used to come and try and take the ball off me and I would say,

0:17:140:17:16

"What are you coming back here for? I am a better passer than you are."

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THEY LAUGH

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Shite!

0:17:260:17:29

Kenny and I live really close to each other but Graeme lives

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in Poole somewhere.

0:17:320:17:34

Graeme Souness is the type of person, you don't see him five years

0:17:340:17:37

and you can pick up like that.

0:17:370:17:39

At the start, when you came, I was the first Scot in that era.

0:17:390:17:43

They didn't know what to expect.

0:17:430:17:46

How long did it take you to become a bully?

0:17:460:17:47

You two were 10 times worse than I ever was.

0:17:470:17:50

Just because we tried to betray the Jocks as a master race.

0:17:500:17:54

And that wasn't very difficult, because the average IQ was -6.

0:17:540:17:59

It was... It wasn't difficult!

0:17:590:18:03

The higher up you go in football, the dressing room banter is more severe.

0:18:030:18:08

The humour is more severe.

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-You can't wait to get there because of the banter.

-The mickey-taking.

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That's why it was so successful and good, because of the dressing room.

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We were one of the best professionals, trained properly

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but enjoyed a night out and maybe drank too much alcohol.

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-Speak for yourself.

-Didn't eat the right food.

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And we were playing against teams like the Germans, Italians

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and still beat them easily.

0:18:420:18:43

The longer the game went,

0:18:430:18:45

the more tired they got and the stronger we got.

0:18:450:18:47

-Comes down to desire.

-It's a combination of everything.

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People used to turn up to watch us train with a notepad.

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From the first tier, right down.

0:18:540:18:56

Walked a perimeter, jogged a perimeter, five-a-sides,

0:18:560:18:58

sprints, five-a-sides, sprints, finish.

0:18:580:19:01

Second day, they write down, The third day, there was no writing.

0:19:010:19:05

The notepad was sitting next to them.

0:19:050:19:08

These guys would say to me, "Do you come back in the afternoon

0:19:080:19:11

-"and do tactical stuff?"

-No. Do you come back in the afternoon?!

0:19:110:19:15

I would go to Kenny's for Christmas Day and Kenny says,

0:19:170:19:23

"Graeme's coming."

0:19:230:19:25

So, you come through and the usual... What happens?

0:19:250:19:30

The champagne comes out and this is the day before the game,

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and Kenny says we will have one glass and we go on the bus

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and I thought to myself, "We've had a bit too much

0:19:390:19:43

"the day before the match, blah, blah, blah..."

0:19:430:19:46

and we beat them 3-0.

0:19:460:19:49

-We beat them 3-0!

-And we all played really well.

0:19:490:19:52

Remember when we used to win things. Win a trophy.

0:19:540:19:58

There was a Jock picture, why did you never join in?

0:19:580:20:02

Because I was always the outside. When it hit the papers...

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I got in the middle, but you'll love this,

0:20:070:20:11

the best one is in the bar at Cameron House,

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there's 50 great Scotsman, the good thing is you're not in it.

0:20:140:20:18

Anyway, Janet comes back to me and says, "50 great Scots,

0:20:180:20:23

"you're in the picture." I'm like, "Am I?"

0:20:230:20:26

So anyway I go to the bar

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and I'm looking everywhere thinking to myself, I'm not in it.

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And then eventually see a picture of him,

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European cup final in Rome

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and my right ear is in it.

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You can tell it's my ear, just my ear.

0:20:410:20:45

50 great Scots and Al's ear.

0:20:450:20:48

That ear-a!

0:20:490:20:52

To have played with two of the great players was fantastic,

0:20:520:20:56

but they were all great players.

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Every one of them that played on that team was exceptional.

0:20:580:21:01

# Walk on

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# Walk on... #

0:21:070:21:09

It's strange how this one worked out. Two of that great team who

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played together and both walked on into punditry.

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Still talking a great game.

0:21:160:21:19

-It makes you feel invincible.

-Every single time?

0:21:270:21:30

And then down and out.

0:21:300:21:32

You can hear the noise. Crescendo noise greeting you.

0:21:320:21:35

Come on then. I've heard so much about this goal that never was.

0:21:510:21:54

You say it was.

0:21:540:21:55

Man United are top of the table,

0:21:550:21:57

a point in front of Liverpool. Liverpool have a game in hand.

0:21:570:22:00

It's 0-0, 21 minutes, 8 seconds into the match and I play it

0:22:000:22:03

-to Souness. Graeme gets it.

-No opposition?

0:22:030:22:07

Everyone's moving, the whole thing has opened up and I get to here

0:22:070:22:12

and I kept going and Ray Kennedy is edge of the box.

0:22:120:22:16

I played it into his feet, Ray Kennedy has played it back

0:22:160:22:21

-to about 22 yards.

-22 exactly?

-22 yards, three inches.

0:22:210:22:26

And I've just put my foot back, hit through it

0:22:260:22:29

and pinged it into the bottom corner.

0:22:290:22:31

Did you look where Gary Bailey was?

0:22:310:22:34

No, I just hit it on the right-hand side.

0:22:340:22:37

A centreback has played 2-1-2s and run 65 yards

0:22:370:22:40

and buried it in the corner and not one camera in the ground.

0:22:400:22:45

-Not one camera.

-You would love to see the analysis on this.

0:22:450:22:48

Nobody has ever seen that goal. But the big thing there is...

0:22:480:22:51

Nobody ever believes me when I tell that story.

0:22:520:22:54

I'm finding it difficult, I must admit.

0:22:540:22:57

Honestly, one of the greatest goals ever scored here. Allegedly.

0:22:570:23:02

Dalglish is in here. Yes!

0:23:020:23:05

1986. Alan is now Liverpool captain and Merseyside rules.

0:23:050:23:10

Liverpool and Everton going toe to toe in the league and in the cup

0:23:100:23:14

-all the way to Wembley.

-Is this three? It is!

0:23:140:23:18

1986, Kenny was the manager.

0:23:180:23:20

-Great memories for you, of course.

-Obviously not.

0:23:200:23:24

I was at Everton at that stage and three times we played you

0:23:240:23:28

-and I scored in all three games.

-What did you win that season?

0:23:280:23:31

-Precisely nothing.

-Good.

0:23:310:23:33

It was also a minor miracle because you were completely outplayed for most of it!

0:23:330:23:37

-Well, I make a mistake in that game.

-No, I outfoxed you.

0:23:390:23:43

Lineker through the centre. Lineker for Everton. Saved by Grobbelaar.

0:23:440:23:49

Lineker! 1-0 to Everton.

0:23:490:23:52

And who else but Gary Lineker?

0:23:530:23:56

For the first time in my life, I'm like that...

0:23:560:23:58

If my head had been right that day,

0:24:000:24:02

if you had been Usain Bolt you wouldn't have scored.

0:24:020:24:06

But everything is about the results, as you well know.

0:24:060:24:09

It was a great day just seeing the sea of blue and red together.

0:24:090:24:13

It was fantastic going to Wembley and the Evertonians mixing with the Liverpudlians.

0:24:130:24:18

It was a great example to the world, I thought, about how

0:24:180:24:23

a city could come together.

0:24:230:24:25

Never before have they won the league and cup double

0:24:290:24:32

and now the moment is here.

0:24:320:24:35

What a consolation for Alan Hansen in the week

0:24:370:24:39

he was left out of the Scotland World Cup party.

0:24:390:24:42

Four in the area. Lineker!

0:24:470:24:50

For me, the '86 World Cup would work out OK.

0:24:500:24:54

But for Alan, it was an immense disappointment.

0:24:540:24:57

He was left out of the Scotland squad by a certain Alex Ferguson.

0:24:590:25:03

It never entered my head that there was a possibility

0:25:050:25:08

I was going to be left out.

0:25:080:25:10

So, we played on the Sunday

0:25:100:25:13

and Alec Ferguson was the manager of the home Scots.

0:25:130:25:17

And he never said a word to me.

0:25:170:25:20

I thought, that's unusual, because Alec always comes

0:25:200:25:23

and talk to everybody

0:25:230:25:25

and I thought, there's something strange here but still couldn't

0:25:250:25:31

believe there was any remote possibility I would be left out.

0:25:310:25:34

And then the dreaded phone call came on the Wednesday.

0:25:340:25:36

But even then, when he told me, it never really sunk in.

0:25:360:25:39

It was only when the reports started to come back from

0:25:390:25:43

the training pitch at Santa Fe

0:25:430:25:45

and onto Mexico that I felt really dejected.

0:25:450:25:49

People keep saying, why do I hate Manchester United so much?

0:25:490:25:53

And I would say, Alex Ferguson,

0:25:530:25:55

because he didn't pick Alan for the World Cup.

0:25:550:25:58

And it's harboured with us all these years

0:25:580:26:01

because he was at the peak of his form, peak of his career

0:26:010:26:06

and he took the two Aberdeen players because he had been manager at Aberdeen.

0:26:060:26:12

Al never said too much but he was gutted.

0:26:120:26:14

I just said, "I have to accept your decision.

0:26:140:26:16

"You pick the team and the squad of players and you're the manager."

0:26:160:26:19

And I just said I wish you all the best.

0:26:190:26:21

Liverpool have won the double.

0:26:230:26:25

If you had said to me, "Do you want to be a double-winning captain

0:26:250:26:30

"or go to the World Cup?" you would probably say double-winning

0:26:300:26:33

captain, so it more than made up for the lack of Scottish caps but what

0:26:330:26:37

I achieved at Liverpool.

0:26:370:26:39

So, I've no regrets about that in the slightest.

0:26:390:26:42

You had lots of great times, lots of success on the field,

0:26:420:26:45

you also lived through two enormous disasters, famously, Heysel in '85.

0:26:450:26:52

I am afraid the news is very bad from Brussels.

0:26:560:26:58

Hooliganism has struck again and I'm afraid

0:26:580:27:01

the scenes are as bad as anything we have seen for a long, long time.

0:27:010:27:05

An evening in late May 1985.

0:27:050:27:09

39 people were about to die in the old Heysel Stadium in Brussels.

0:27:090:27:14

My father had gone to the three previous European Cup finals.

0:27:150:27:19

Wembley was fine. Paris, if you are a mile away from the ground and didn't have a ticket,

0:27:190:27:24

they were hitting you on the head - Rome was the same.

0:27:240:27:27

Heysel, every man and their dog was getting in there.

0:27:270:27:31

My dad went in with a ticket.

0:27:310:27:34

There was nobody at the turnstiles.

0:27:340:27:37

We got on the pitch at 5:50pm to go to the Liverpool fans,

0:27:390:27:44

there's a kids' game on the pitch. We had to go on the pitch to go

0:27:440:27:48

to them because they had thrown missiles at us,

0:27:480:27:50

the Juventus supporters, so I picked one up

0:27:500:27:53

and I remember saying to Alan Kennedy, "Nobody brings

0:27:530:27:56

"that into the stadium" and he says, "That IS the stadium."

0:27:560:28:00

It was crumbling about them. We are in the dressing room, we're ready to go,

0:28:000:28:05

they come and say, "There's a major problem," um...

0:28:050:28:09

"And the game has been put back."

0:28:090:28:11

And it was the pressure of movement down towards the running track which

0:28:110:28:14

resulted in the wall giving way

0:28:140:28:16

and people being pinned underneath it.

0:28:160:28:21

Do you think it should have been played?

0:28:230:28:25

The reason they played the game was they thought there would be

0:28:250:28:28

more trouble if they didn't play the game. I go on the pitch and...

0:28:280:28:32

I don't know how many were dead at the time, you only focus on one

0:28:320:28:35

-thing, that's the game.

-Still.

0:28:350:28:38

Even that. You are only focused on one thing. It's the game.

0:28:380:28:41

You focus on the game, playing the game and then you

0:28:410:28:45

come into the dressing room afterwards and it is horrific.

0:28:450:28:48

And it's like so sad,

0:28:480:28:50

but we come home the next day.

0:28:500:28:53

And then when you're home, you are removed from it.

0:28:530:28:57

The Liverpool squad arrived home after the most disastrous

0:28:570:29:00

European tie in history to more media attention than had

0:29:000:29:03

they won the cup for keeps in front of peaceful crowds.

0:29:030:29:07

Flags were flying at half-mast out of respect for the dead,

0:29:070:29:10

and it seemed in shame as well.

0:29:100:29:12

Could football ever go more tragically wrong then this?

0:29:150:29:19

In very different circumstances, it could.

0:29:200:29:23

Hillsborough was totally different,

0:29:250:29:27

because we were still right in the middle.

0:29:270:29:29

Four years later, FA Cup semifinal day.

0:29:300:29:35

Liverpool against Nottingham Forest at Hillsborough in Sheffield.

0:29:350:29:38

A huge crowd. Everyone looking forward to the match.

0:29:400:29:44

Everybody bar one.

0:29:440:29:46

I played one reserve game in nine months.

0:29:470:29:50

Erm... There was a virus the night before.

0:29:500:29:53

Kenny pulls me, he says, "You have to play."

0:29:530:29:56

I say, "I don't want to play."

0:29:560:29:57

I said, "I ain't ready. I've only played..."

0:29:570:30:00

He said, "You're playing."

0:30:000:30:02

How do you argue with Dalglish? Anyway, I go on the pitch...

0:30:020:30:06

Again, you focus on the game. You can't see the crowd...

0:30:060:30:09

-Could you tell there was something happening at all?

-No.

0:30:090:30:13

The first inclination I got was two guys come on the pitch

0:30:130:30:16

and I go to them right away, "You'll get us in trouble here."

0:30:160:30:19

And the guy looks at me and says...

0:30:190:30:21

You could tell the sadness in his eyes that...

0:30:210:30:25

he wasn't make it up. He said, "Al, there's people dying in there."

0:30:250:30:29

-We got off the pitch...

-The game was stopped.

0:30:320:30:35

The game was stopped and then somebody comes in and says,

0:30:350:30:37

"18 dead." And then it was 32 and then the numbers went up.

0:30:370:30:41

It's a sense of shock.

0:30:410:30:43

And then you go upstairs and you see the girls...

0:30:430:30:45

and they're crying their eyes out. They're watching...

0:30:450:30:49

coverage of the events unfolding.

0:30:490:30:51

But you still never really knew the enormity of what had happened.

0:30:530:30:57

It's been a black day for football.

0:30:580:30:59

On a sunny afternoon at Hillsborough, Sheffield,

0:30:590:31:02

no fewer than 93 football supporters died.

0:31:020:31:05

On a day of such momentous tragedy,

0:31:050:31:07

our sympathies go to the families of those concerned.

0:31:070:31:10

It wasn't until the next day we went to Anfield and we see,

0:31:120:31:16

on the Kop, flowers like you'll never believe,

0:31:160:31:18

and it just suddenly hits you. That...

0:31:180:31:22

this is much, much bigger...

0:31:220:31:24

Much a bigger disaster than you ever thought.

0:31:240:31:26

What was it like being part of the club at that time and under...?

0:31:290:31:34

It was harrowing. It was harrowing.

0:31:340:31:36

I mean, the next day, we go to the hospital.

0:31:360:31:40

There is a mother, who has a son that's on a life support machine

0:31:410:31:46

and they're going to turn it off.

0:31:460:31:48

She wants you to come and speak to the boy.

0:31:480:31:50

HE SCOFFS

0:31:500:31:52

Well, I get up there and the kid's... Adam's eight at the time.

0:31:520:31:57

And I look at the mother and the mother is like...

0:31:570:31:59

She was really strong for the son. And...

0:31:590:32:03

You say a few words...

0:32:060:32:07

They had me in the corner in bits.

0:32:070:32:09

I mean, I'm crying my eyes out in the corner. Erm...

0:32:090:32:12

And then-then we get back and Janet says to me, "What about the mother?

0:32:120:32:17

"You're crying your eyes out, but you're all right?

0:32:170:32:19

"What about the mother?" You lose track of...

0:32:190:32:22

You're maybe thinking about yourself and then you suddenly think,

0:32:220:32:26

"What about the families?" For the rest of their lives...

0:32:260:32:29

Erm... The emptiness is going to be there.

0:32:290:32:33

Don't tell me you can understand what they're feeling

0:32:330:32:35

because you haven't been...

0:32:350:32:37

There's not a chance that you can understand how they're feeling,

0:32:370:32:40

and they've been feeling it for 25 years. Erm...

0:32:400:32:43

And then, you know, Kenny and Marina were phenomenal.

0:32:430:32:45

They set up this thing in the players' lounge.

0:32:450:32:48

We were going in there...and we'd be coming out in tears every time.

0:32:480:32:51

-You went to a lot of the funerals...

-Well, I went to about 12 and...

0:32:530:32:56

I remember saying to Janet after the first one, "This will get better."

0:32:560:33:00

It never. It got worse.

0:33:000:33:02

Has it always lived with you?

0:33:050:33:08

It's... When it's brought up, you will think about it and it's like...

0:33:080:33:11

It is distressing.

0:33:110:33:14

I mean, just the grief. The grief and the emptiness,

0:33:140:33:18

and just the sadness.

0:33:180:33:20

The sadness. It's a football match. 96 people at a football match.

0:33:200:33:24

You never know if you're doing the right thing,

0:33:260:33:29

like, talking about it on television.

0:33:290:33:30

Are you doing the right thing? Do they want you to speak about it?

0:33:300:33:33

Did they want you to play on?

0:33:330:33:35

I mean, I don't think you could ever get a consensus of...

0:33:350:33:38

Of what they wanted.

0:33:380:33:39

You can't get a consensus of what's right and what's wrong.

0:33:390:33:42

You just do what you think...is for the best.

0:33:420:33:45

# You'll never walk... #

0:33:450:33:51

25 years on, Hillsborough is still with us,

0:33:510:33:54

still resolving the questions about what happened

0:33:540:33:57

at a football match a quarter of a century ago.

0:33:570:34:00

18 months or so after that,

0:34:030:34:04

Kenny Dalglish quit as manager of Liverpool.

0:34:040:34:07

Do you think Hillsborough was anything to do with it?

0:34:070:34:09

-Hillsborough took its toll on Kenny.

-Did he confide in you?

0:34:090:34:12

He confided in me in virtually everything football-wise.

0:34:120:34:15

He told me in '85, in the February,

0:34:150:34:17

that he was becoming the new manager of Liverpool.

0:34:170:34:21

But this time he didn't.

0:34:210:34:22

He just came into the dressing room and said, "I'm leaving."

0:34:220:34:25

I went, "What?"

0:34:250:34:26

I just felt that...

0:34:260:34:28

I've gone far enough and I didn't think I could delay it any longer.

0:34:290:34:33

-NEWS PRESENTER:

-Having played over 500 games for Liverpool,

0:34:330:34:36

and with a record eight Championship medals,

0:34:360:34:38

Alan Hansen is strongly tipped to now join the management team

0:34:380:34:41

and take his place in the famous boot room,

0:34:410:34:44

and maybe in the top job.

0:34:440:34:45

I came back to the training ground, I'm 64 on to get the job.

0:34:450:34:48

So I then go to the chief executive Peter Robinson, I said,

0:34:480:34:51

"Am I in the frame for the job?" He said, "Very much so."

0:34:510:34:53

I said, "Well, I don't want it."

0:34:530:34:55

He's a Liverpool legend and I think he thought

0:34:550:34:58

if he did a bad job at management he could lose all that.

0:34:580:35:01

Am I right in saying that you might have kidded the Liverpool

0:35:010:35:04

players on that you did get the job?

0:35:040:35:05

What happened was Liverpool had been beaten at Luton on the Saturday,

0:35:050:35:09

and they had been beaten again by Everton.

0:35:090:35:11

So I went to Ronnie, who was acting manager, I said,

0:35:110:35:13

"Look, they've always taken the mickey in the dressing room.

0:35:130:35:16

"Why don't I go in?" And I gave them the biggest spiel of all time.

0:35:160:35:18

He said, "I've got some news. I'm taking over from Kenny."

0:35:180:35:22

I said, "Whoa! This is amazing." We never saw him as a manager.

0:35:220:35:24

He said, "There'll be a lot of changes."

0:35:240:35:26

He said, "Steve Nichol, there will be no more going to the pub.

0:35:260:35:29

"No more going to the Albert. Those days are over.

0:35:290:35:31

"John Barnes, you, I know you're partial to a Kentucky Fried Chicken.

0:35:310:35:34

"There'll be no more of that." And he went round the whole team,

0:35:340:35:37

and they were all looking at him, thinking,

0:35:370:35:39

"What's he doing? I can't believe it."

0:35:390:35:41

And then, at the end, the best bit is,

0:35:410:35:42

"What we're going to do, we're going to video the game on Saturday,

0:35:420:35:45

"have a little bit of light lunch on Sunday and go through it."

0:35:450:35:48

So, by that time, they were like that.

0:35:480:35:50

He walks out and all the players, they start whispering,

0:35:500:35:52

"We liked Alan until he did this."

0:35:520:35:54

I go down to the players' lounge.

0:35:540:35:56

There's two Irish kids have burst out the reserve team dressing room

0:35:560:35:59

and this little kid gets on the phone to Dublin, and he says,

0:35:590:36:02

"Get as much money as you possibly can on Alan Hansen to be

0:36:020:36:05

"the next Liverpool manager."

0:36:050:36:06

So I've got to put an end to it. I've got the phone down, went back to...

0:36:060:36:10

And all I can hear is, "Hansen's a..."

0:36:100:36:13

He came back in about a minute later. He said, "Not really, guys.

0:36:130:36:16

"I just want to say I'm retiring."

0:36:160:36:17

But it was just typical Alan Hansen. He always had a joke.

0:36:170:36:20

The first person I see is John Barnes and he went...like that.

0:36:200:36:23

I said, "Boys, I'm only kidding. I'm leaving."

0:36:230:36:25

I thought Alan Hansen was taking over after Kenny had left

0:36:250:36:28

because Alan's knowledge of football is fantastic.

0:36:280:36:30

-PRESENTER:

-..the biggest cheer of the ceremony,

0:36:310:36:34

holding up the league championship trophy.

0:36:340:36:36

I suppose a telltale sign is the fact that, being such

0:36:360:36:39

a nervous player and hating the pressure

0:36:390:36:42

of having to play, imagine...

0:36:420:36:44

Because being a manager is ten times worse.

0:36:440:36:46

Bill Shankly, Kenny Dalglish, Graeme Souness -

0:36:480:36:53

Scottish managers of Liverpool.

0:36:530:36:55

So...

0:36:550:36:57

Why did you never have a go at the management?

0:36:570:36:59

I wanted to keep my hair relatively black.

0:36:590:37:02

-You've no done that either.

-That's gone as well.

0:37:020:37:05

I just never fancied it.

0:37:050:37:07

Here, by the way, let me tell you,

0:37:070:37:09

he wanted to keep his hair relatively black.

0:37:090:37:13

I think supplemented it.

0:37:130:37:15

Never at any stage. No tint whatsoever.

0:37:150:37:18

And when you went into television,

0:37:180:37:20

which is something I've done about ten years after you,

0:37:200:37:23

-was that something you always fancied?

-No, never.

0:37:230:37:26

I fell into it. I mean, absolutely fell into it.

0:37:260:37:29

You said before...

0:37:290:37:31

When you were playing, you were nervous in the dressing room,

0:37:310:37:34

which we never picked up on, did we?

0:37:340:37:36

-I'm a worrier. I'm a worrier.

-He was flustered.

0:37:360:37:40

When you used to bring it out from the back...

0:37:400:37:43

ALL TALK OVER EACH OTHER

0:37:430:37:45

Of, if he got into the opposing penalty box,

0:37:450:37:50

he was really flustered.

0:37:500:37:52

He had the equivalent of the yips in golf.

0:37:520:37:54

-He couldn't get his right leg back.

-..my right leg back to hit it.

0:37:540:37:57

I'm telling you!

0:37:570:37:59

-PRESENTER:

-He saw the gap, too, beautifully.

0:37:590:38:03

Sold a lovely dummy...

0:38:030:38:04

and Fairclough puts it in!

0:38:040:38:06

-You froze.

-Absolutely. I froze. It was worse than that.

0:38:060:38:08

Do you get a cold sweat on or...?

0:38:080:38:10

No, no. What I used to do, I used to dummy myself.

0:38:100:38:12

I used to go like that and then... He'd be running in. He'd be...

0:38:120:38:15

-PRESENTER:

-United coming out for the offside.

0:38:170:38:19

And although Hansen was doing the right thing

0:38:190:38:22

and had indeed has been waved on by Pat Partridge,

0:38:220:38:25

he will now score.

0:38:250:38:26

It's not as if he'd be critical of you if you didn't pass to him.

0:38:300:38:33

No, no, no. He'd just blame me.

0:38:330:38:35

He'd just blame me. "Al, you're rubbish."

0:38:350:38:37

That's what you used to say, "Al, you're rubbish."

0:38:370:38:40

But I think that's maybe where your inferiority complex,

0:38:400:38:43

-and mine, came from.

-Kenny.

0:38:430:38:46

-Absolutely.

-Abusing us all the time.

-Over the years.

0:38:460:38:49

By the way, let me tell you, I had plenty of ammunition.

0:38:490:38:52

THEY LAUGH

0:38:520:38:54

I had realised at the time that, as a player,

0:38:540:38:57

if I was feeling the tension as much as I did,

0:38:570:38:59

to become a manager...

0:38:590:39:01

You can multiply that by 100.

0:39:010:39:03

I think Alan could have made a good manager.

0:39:030:39:06

His knowledge of the game, the way he puts himself over,

0:39:060:39:08

is absolutely first class.

0:39:080:39:11

He is one of the people that...

0:39:110:39:13

When I sit down at home and watch Match of the Day,

0:39:130:39:16

he is one that I will sit down and listen to.

0:39:160:39:18

So you finished playing, you don't want to be a manager...

0:39:200:39:23

How quickly did you decide to go into television?

0:39:230:39:26

Well, Janet said to me, "What are you going to do?"

0:39:260:39:28

And I said, "Well, trust me, that phone will never stop ringing",

0:39:280:39:31

which was the most naive thing I've ever said in my life

0:39:310:39:34

because I'm qualified to do nothing.

0:39:340:39:35

I mean, he played football, and it's such a short career...

0:39:350:39:41

Suddenly it's over and what are you going to do?

0:39:410:39:44

I mean, there's only so many managers' jobs and coaching jobs

0:39:440:39:47

that Alan didn't really know what he was going to do.

0:39:470:39:49

So after three months, she said to me,

0:39:490:39:51

"Remember that phone that was never going to stop ringing?

0:39:510:39:54

"It's not rung once." So I had to get off my backside...

0:39:540:39:57

and I went to BSkyB, who were doing Classic Cup Finals.

0:39:570:40:01

The phone rang and it was a certain Alan Hansen saying,

0:40:010:40:05

"How do I get into television punditry?"

0:40:050:40:08

And he came and did a few jobs for us and was brilliant and, obviously,

0:40:080:40:13

the rest is history.

0:40:130:40:15

Alan did a little bit of radio work, and then did some work for Sky,

0:40:150:40:19

and then, obviously, with the BBC.

0:40:190:40:22

But it wasn't really a life plan of what he was going to do.

0:40:220:40:27

I was doing the radio, I was doing a bit on Sky and a bit on television.

0:40:270:40:30

It was a great grounding for Match of the Day.

0:40:300:40:33

Good evening. The Premiership season is under way again.

0:40:350:40:38

Just another 37 weeks to go.

0:40:380:40:40

1992, a time to be daring.

0:40:410:40:44

Who might lead the way in this new age of analysing

0:40:450:40:48

and offering opinions?

0:40:480:40:50

We just got Match of the Day back after a four-year absence

0:40:510:40:55

and everybody was very excited.

0:40:550:40:58

Desmond Lyman was in his pomp at that time.

0:40:580:41:01

Good evening. I suppose it's back to the future tonight.

0:41:010:41:03

Match of the Day returning on a regular basis after

0:41:030:41:05

a gap of four seasons, and 28 years after the very first programme.

0:41:050:41:09

I don't remember.

0:41:090:41:10

Alan was a new boy, but they hit it off very quickly.

0:41:100:41:13

We'll be doing our best to be sharp up front and tight at the back.

0:41:130:41:16

They'd got the experience of Jimmy Hill,

0:41:160:41:19

who had done a lot of television jobs,

0:41:190:41:21

so it blended and worked very seamlessly from very early on.

0:41:210:41:24

Well, he tried to play a continental system with British players,

0:41:240:41:28

and I couldn't agree with that at all.

0:41:280:41:31

He's been very good and I'm glad he was left in the studio cos

0:41:310:41:35

I worked with him once on commentary

0:41:350:41:37

and I couldn't get a word in sideways.

0:41:370:41:39

I think, on Match of the Day, Alan created a genre whereby

0:41:390:41:44

he was able to control the excerpts he used

0:41:440:41:47

and make sense of what he said straight afterwards.

0:41:470:41:50

I think he fitted into the demands of the programme better than

0:41:500:41:53

anybody else I've seen.

0:41:530:41:54

That goal was a little bit reminiscent of Dalglish at his best.

0:41:540:41:58

He runs a bit quicker than Kenny did in his prime, mind you.

0:41:580:42:00

DES LAUGHS

0:42:000:42:02

He and I were completely different when we were watching games.

0:42:020:42:05

I watched it like a football punter, like,

0:42:050:42:08

the ball going from end to end...

0:42:080:42:10

but I couldn't see why this team were winning 3-0.

0:42:100:42:13

He could say,

0:42:130:42:15

"That midfield player has lost their midfield player, blah, blah, blah."

0:42:150:42:21

He would see it all and he could tell you why this team's three up.

0:42:210:42:25

If we say, "It's a brilliant goal", Hansen says, "No, defensive error."

0:42:250:42:29

Why do you think you became such a good pundit?

0:42:290:42:33

I worked with a lot of good people and Lynam was just the best.

0:42:330:42:37

I was fortunate to have him.

0:42:370:42:38

I couldn't believe how nervous he was.

0:42:380:42:40

Alan Hansen, this great star of football,

0:42:400:42:42

won the league championship untold times,

0:42:420:42:44

came on the show nervous as a cat.

0:42:440:42:46

Alan always had that brain that analyses things.

0:42:460:42:49

Des is really relaxed and laid back.

0:42:490:42:52

-The big conference is over.

-HE LAUGHS

0:42:520:42:54

-Nothing to say.

-We're going to have some football, apparently.

0:42:540:42:57

I think Des would have met him and thought,

0:42:570:43:00

"I can help this fella."

0:43:000:43:02

And the combination of the two then really worked.

0:43:020:43:04

I just think he's playing with so much confidence it's unbelievable.

0:43:040:43:07

We just weren't going to show the goals.

0:43:070:43:09

That's how it used to be.

0:43:090:43:11

I'd say to Desmond, "You want to get away from that

0:43:110:43:13

"because you'll have replays of the goals.

0:43:130:43:15

"You want to try and do something different."

0:43:150:43:17

This is classic centre forward play.

0:43:170:43:19

There's no way he should be able to get into the box from here.

0:43:190:43:22

But with strength and determination, and excess pace,

0:43:220:43:25

he gets away from Bart Williams and he just drags his shot wide.

0:43:250:43:29

Then we got a bit of recognition for what we were doing...

0:43:290:43:33

and never really looked back.

0:43:330:43:35

# You talk

0:43:350:43:37

# You talk a good game

0:43:370:43:40

# I wish I could talk the same... #

0:43:400:43:42

It helps if you've been a top class player and you've won a bit,

0:43:440:43:47

it helps if you're forthright, it helps if you can speak,

0:43:470:43:50

and it helps if you're going to speak your mind.

0:43:500:43:53

Well, it looks like it will be the goal of the season.

0:43:530:43:55

Obviously I'm going to find a flaw in it somewhere.

0:43:550:43:58

If Alan were to say, after a game, "Jamie Redknapp played well"

0:43:580:44:01

or, "Look at this from Jamie Redknapp", I was so happy.

0:44:010:44:04

That made me feel a million dollars

0:44:040:44:06

because it was a respect that you wanted as a...

0:44:060:44:08

It was an acknowledgment that you'd done well and...

0:44:080:44:10

And it come from someone like Alan Hansen. It meant so much.

0:44:100:44:14

Match of the Day is such an important show.

0:44:140:44:16

And you always felt when Alan Hansen spoke that that was the final word,

0:44:160:44:19

that that was the authority.

0:44:190:44:21

I grew up on him. He probably won't like me saying that,

0:44:210:44:23

you know, but... He did everything in the game and, obviously,

0:44:230:44:27

he gets his points across quite well.

0:44:270:44:29

And when he speaks people listen.

0:44:290:44:32

He had credibility when he finished his career

0:44:320:44:34

and he was able to deliver it very well, too.

0:44:340:44:36

That Scottish accent always helps.

0:44:360:44:38

The Hull defending is like the mother of all shockers.

0:44:380:44:40

It's the worst defending I've ever seen in my life...bar none.

0:44:400:44:44

There are certain ways of doing Match of the Day,

0:44:440:44:46

I've always been unorthodox.

0:44:460:44:48

I always wait until the final whistle and say, right, can you find...?

0:44:480:44:53

So, the guys have to spool through the tapes and they'll say,

0:44:530:44:58

when was it? I'll say, Well, it was between 15 minutes and 35,

0:44:580:45:01

which usually means it's 49.

0:45:010:45:03

That's a lot for them to be able to find this stuff.

0:45:030:45:06

But that's the way I've always done it.

0:45:060:45:08

Can we see that any stage, could we get that up?

0:45:080:45:11

Certain back players have always been in contact

0:45:110:45:14

so if the ball goes over the first one's head,

0:45:140:45:16

the second one is there to mop up and vice versa.

0:45:160:45:18

Is that why you and Lawro are so close together?

0:45:180:45:21

This is the closest we ever were,

0:45:210:45:23

I can tell you that much. Carry on.

0:45:230:45:26

I used to get between you!

0:45:260:45:28

In your dreams!

0:45:280:45:29

Lawro is a natural talker, so I think it was easier for him,

0:45:290:45:33

than for anybody else.

0:45:330:45:35

Shouldn't I be there and you be here?

0:45:360:45:38

I was always covering for you anyway.

0:45:380:45:40

Yeah, right!

0:45:400:45:41

COMMENTATOR: He's has got it away from Lawrenson.

0:45:430:45:46

Here's Crooks. Covered by Alan Hansen.

0:45:460:45:48

See, just like when we played.

0:45:500:45:52

They say, what was your relationship like as a player?

0:45:520:45:55

-I say, I just did what he told me to do.

-It's called delegation.

0:45:550:46:00

As somebody said to me, you don't want to be heading it long-term.

0:46:000:46:05

I said Lawro, you head it.

0:46:050:46:07

Then somebody said to me, you don't want to be tackling.

0:46:070:46:11

Lawro, you tackle. Then someone said to me, you don't want to be running.

0:46:110:46:14

I said, Lawro, you run.

0:46:140:46:17

Very good at doing nothing, but then take the accolades!

0:46:170:46:20

Being a pundit is the same.

0:46:250:46:27

You do all the work but also, I'll give you the crap games

0:46:270:46:30

and I'll take the good games. That's fair.

0:46:300:46:33

-That is called delegation.

-I've had 17 years of crap games.

0:46:330:46:36

Don't worry about that!

0:46:360:46:37

Do you member that day we did FA Cup Live?

0:46:390:46:42

-How did we ever get away with that?

-I'll never forget that.

0:46:420:46:45

That was one of the great broadcasts of all time.

0:46:450:46:48

A little more homework than usual has been acquired by Alan Hansen

0:46:480:46:51

and Mark Lawrenson.

0:46:510:46:53

Mm, yes, definitely.

0:46:530:46:54

Do you concur with that?

0:46:540:46:56

Very much so.

0:46:560:46:58

After your homework, what have you concluded?

0:46:580:47:01

After you, Al.

0:47:010:47:02

Forget that, let's talk about...

0:47:030:47:06

It was that bad a game that we decided to have a bit of a spoof

0:47:060:47:09

where I ignore him, then you ignore him

0:47:090:47:11

then he'd come back to me and then we'd talk.

0:47:110:47:13

Remember they used to have that dressing room door

0:47:130:47:15

that went straight on to the street?

0:47:150:47:17

-Are you going to ask any question?

-No, nothing at all.

0:47:180:47:21

I never heard the 60 seconds to go, 30 seconds to go,

0:47:210:47:25

or this is for real.

0:47:250:47:26

Is this for real?

0:47:260:47:27

This is obviously not for real.

0:47:270:47:30

Are we on the air?!

0:47:320:47:33

Yes, we're on-air.

0:47:330:47:35

Right, OK, then.

0:47:350:47:36

Tell the story.

0:47:360:47:38

The worst thing you can say, are we on-air?

0:47:380:47:41

That line back like that!

0:47:410:47:43

I heard Armstrong in the scanner saying, too right we're on-air!

0:47:430:47:47

I sort of jumped up!

0:47:470:47:49

How did we get away with that?

0:47:510:47:53

Before I became a pundit, I didn't like any pundits.

0:47:530:47:57

I always thought they never knew what they were talking about.

0:47:570:48:00

-Fowler was in the best position.

-Jimmy, be quiet!

0:48:000:48:02

EXPLOSION

0:48:040:48:05

Jimmy, I thought I'm going to like him within five minutes.

0:48:080:48:12

In five minutes, I loved him.

0:48:120:48:13

Also, Collymore could break through the Spurs' defence.

0:48:130:48:17

Stop recording!

0:48:190:48:21

You won't get it better than that!

0:48:250:48:27

109 times?

0:48:270:48:29

The modern-day ones - Al has all the criteria.

0:48:290:48:33

Single minded, he knows the game inside out, a top-class player.

0:48:330:48:37

This is an old man's tackle.

0:48:370:48:39

That is just an old man trying to get back.

0:48:390:48:41

It is late and it is vicious

0:48:410:48:43

but apart from that, it was perfectly fair.

0:48:430:48:45

I always say to him, I finished his career, because I remember

0:48:450:48:47

running past him at Anfield when I was a young whippersnapper

0:48:470:48:50

at Southampton.

0:48:500:48:52

I told him it was time to pack in when I ran past him

0:48:520:48:55

because I wasn't the quickest.

0:48:550:48:57

You get into it and find, this is harder than I thought it was,

0:48:570:49:00

and then you become really good at it and that's what Al's done,

0:49:000:49:02

he's become really good at it.

0:49:020:49:04

He's normally just being nice,

0:49:040:49:05

I don't know what he'll say behind closed doors to his mates.

0:49:050:49:08

How can you complain when the ball ends up in the back of the net?

0:49:080:49:10

You stick to defence.

0:49:100:49:12

There's lots of good ones coming through.

0:49:120:49:14

Obviously Gary Neville has done extremely well at Sky.

0:49:140:49:17

I've always liked Jamie.

0:49:170:49:20

You could never do that, you're the problem all England players have,

0:49:200:49:23

coming inside, coming inside.

0:49:230:49:25

Graeme Souness. When I say he's coming through,

0:49:250:49:28

he's excellent as well.

0:49:280:49:30

There's a mixture.

0:49:300:49:32

There's one famous line, well,

0:49:320:49:33

many famous lines that you have uttered over the years,

0:49:330:49:36

but there's one in particular that always stands out, of course.

0:49:360:49:40

The opening day of the season, Manchester United, Aston Villa.

0:49:400:49:43

COMMENTATOR: Leicester have it here, Taylor scores!

0:49:430:49:48

Draper.

0:49:500:49:51

It's 2-0!

0:49:520:49:54

We've played just over 35 minutes.

0:49:540:49:56

It's in danger of becoming a real rout and already it's a scoreline

0:50:000:50:05

which asks serious questions of Manchester United.

0:50:050:50:08

-I blame you for that because you were on that night.

-I was on that night.

0:50:080:50:11

You said to me, when Man United had been beaten by Aston Villa,

0:50:110:50:15

-a very similar line.

-Going to blame me for it?

0:50:150:50:17

We had this thing with Bob Paisley who said to me,

0:50:170:50:19

experience was everything.

0:50:190:50:21

I thought, well, that's right, but I'll change it a bit.

0:50:210:50:24

I will never forget that moment.

0:50:240:50:25

He almost ruined my life that night, watching Match of the Day.

0:50:250:50:29

We'd just been beaten at Aston Villa and I came home

0:50:290:50:31

and watched it on the TV with my mum and dad.

0:50:310:50:34

Obviously, such a well-respected pundit,

0:50:340:50:36

when he says something, the country listens.

0:50:360:50:39

United were scarcely recognisable from the team we've known

0:50:390:50:41

over the last couple of seasons. What's going on, do you feel?

0:50:410:50:44

I think they've got problems,

0:50:440:50:46

I wouldn't say they've got major problems.

0:50:460:50:48

Obviously, three players have departed.

0:50:480:50:50

The trick is always, buy when you're strong. So he needs to buy players.

0:50:500:50:53

You can't win anything with kids.

0:50:530:50:54

When Sir Alex made that call to replace Kanchelskis,

0:50:540:51:00

Hughes and Ince, with the kids, we all thought he had lost the plot.

0:51:000:51:05

You just think, will it go right, will it be OK?

0:51:070:51:11

You have two believe in your ability as young players,

0:51:110:51:14

but we were going into the unknown, really, as a group.

0:51:140:51:18

COMMENTATOR: Giggs shoots, oh, that has settled it!

0:51:180:51:21

That was kind of a motivational theme throughout the season.

0:51:210:51:26

From that day onwards, we improved and went on to prove him wrong.

0:51:260:51:29

COMMENTATOR: Manchester United win the FA Carling Premiership!

0:51:300:51:33

I lied to those four or five kids.

0:51:330:51:36

With five kids, you'll never win anything, and he's right.

0:51:360:51:38

I would defend him on that comment, really.

0:51:380:51:40

We didn't win the league with kids.

0:51:420:51:44

We had Roy Keane, Bruce, Cantona,

0:51:440:51:46

Schmeichel were the critical people in that team.

0:51:460:51:49

Towards the end of the season when we needed carrying over the line,

0:51:490:51:52

it was the experienced players that really helped us

0:51:520:51:54

and delivered for us.

0:51:540:51:55

Since then, it is something we always joke about now

0:51:550:51:58

but at the time, he was, probably right in what he was saying.

0:51:580:52:01

To this day, I stand by that line.

0:52:010:52:03

How many times in your life have you seen a manager

0:52:030:52:06

pick experience before youth? It happens all the time.

0:52:060:52:09

The kids became superstars

0:52:090:52:11

but the superstars in that team were the Schmeichels and the Cantonas.

0:52:110:52:15

-You're still wriggling out of it?

-It was a line that made me.

0:52:150:52:19

I was going to say, do you think that line was good for you

0:52:190:52:21

-or bad for you?

-It was great for me.

0:52:210:52:23

Fantastic, everybody recognises the line.

0:52:230:52:25

You go to Euston or Heathrow and they will be shouting behind poles,

0:52:250:52:29

and also trying to do the accent. Nobody can do the accent.

0:52:290:52:34

-GARY LINEKER AS ALAN HANSEN:

-That is absolutely diabolical defending.

0:52:340:52:38

-AS ALAN HANSEN:

-Terrible defending, terrible defending.

0:52:380:52:41

They're all useless at doing the accent.

0:52:410:52:43

I've heard some people do you quite well.

0:52:430:52:45

Oh, hello, pal.

0:52:450:52:46

The defence was terrible.

0:52:460:52:47

It's like... MUMBLING

0:52:470:52:49

You cannot defend like that,

0:52:490:52:50

you've got to play higher up the field.

0:52:500:52:52

The lines were all over the place, absolutely woeful.

0:52:520:52:55

Absolutely shocking defending!

0:52:550:52:58

HE MUMBLES

0:52:590:53:01

Goal! Great goal!

0:53:010:53:03

That's rubbish actually, isn't it?

0:53:030:53:05

There's so many of your sayings

0:53:050:53:07

I've heard so many times over the years.

0:53:070:53:09

I have lots of them.

0:53:090:53:10

His passion, his precision!

0:53:100:53:12

-Effort, attitude and commitment is Kenny's.

-Time and time again.

0:53:120:53:15

Indecision is final, is a good one I came up with.

0:53:150:53:18

-I thought of that myself.

-Not a great combination.

0:53:180:53:20

It's not a great combination!

0:53:200:53:23

Obviously the shocking, unbelievable, terrible defending.

0:53:230:53:26

When was the last time I said diabolical on television?

0:53:260:53:29

I will bet it's about six years ago.

0:53:290:53:31

Also, the decision against them was diabolical,

0:53:310:53:35

never a penalty in a million years.

0:53:350:53:36

The other thing people are interested in

0:53:360:53:38

and I have looked at it for 20 years, the scar on the forehead.

0:53:380:53:42

-Why is that there?

-I was playing volleyball.

0:53:420:53:45

We were playing in a youth club in Bridge of Allan.

0:53:450:53:47

I missed the bus, I see an opening and I think it's a door.

0:53:470:53:51

He went through the glass window.

0:53:510:53:53

The sun was shining and he never saw it, he went right through it.

0:53:530:53:57

I am lying there, I don't know I've hit it,

0:53:570:53:59

I don't know the blood's coming out like that, I don't know you can die.

0:53:590:54:03

The first person I see is my brother. who says...

0:54:030:54:06

Brain of Britain!

0:54:060:54:08

-That's a fair comment.

-Three people had hit it that day.

0:54:080:54:11

I was the only person that had gone through it.

0:54:110:54:14

We sued the sports centre.

0:54:140:54:15

It went to the court case

0:54:170:54:19

and Alan in his wisdom the day before the court case

0:54:190:54:22

because he had had his hair down the day before it

0:54:220:54:25

he had his hair swept back, so the judge said,

0:54:250:54:29

it doesn't seem to bother you too much, this scar,

0:54:290:54:32

because you've got your hair swept back.

0:54:320:54:34

So he got a few bob, he didn't get as much as he should have.

0:54:340:54:38

Brain of Britain!

0:54:380:54:39

Maybe not, but give him a break. The brain of punditry.

0:54:410:54:46

For 22 years, the king of the pundits.

0:54:460:54:50

So, that's it from Match of the Day.

0:54:500:54:53

-A definite decision?

-Absolutely. 22 years.

0:54:530:54:57

Why now? You're still young.

0:54:570:54:59

I think I've had a great time.

0:54:590:55:01

I went at the very top of Liverpool, the last game I ever played

0:55:010:55:05

was when we won the title in 1990.

0:55:050:55:07

I have had a great season on Match of the Day.

0:55:070:55:09

-I know I'm not going to miss it.

-You don't think you'll miss it?

0:55:090:55:12

The minute I walked out the door at Liverpool, I never missed it at all.

0:55:120:55:16

I know the minute I walk out this door, I'm not going to miss it.

0:55:160:55:20

I think he's been a star of the show, don't you?

0:55:220:55:25

He's a very nice man, a good man and I'm sure all of us wish him

0:55:260:55:32

a happy retirement.

0:55:320:55:34

You almost forget that he was a player and how good he was

0:55:370:55:40

and how important he has been in television in Match of the Day.

0:55:400:55:44

He will be missed because he's very good at his job,

0:55:460:55:49

very well respected and rightly so.

0:55:490:55:52

You cannot have been in it for that amount of time

0:55:520:55:54

if you're not good at it.

0:55:540:55:56

He's an iconic figure at the BBC and he's one that every pundit

0:55:560:56:01

getting into the game aspires to be like.

0:56:010:56:04

22 years, on an iconic programme.

0:56:040:56:06

With the best people, working for the best organisation.

0:56:070:56:11

You can't get much better than that.

0:56:110:56:13

I feel really sorry that he is retiring.

0:56:180:56:20

I think he was great, but if that is his decision, I wish him the best.

0:56:200:56:26

He'll be remembered for his voice

0:56:310:56:33

and that shrewd observation of football and also for his opinions,

0:56:330:56:38

because they were hard and firm and he never bottled it.

0:56:380:56:41

His career at Liverpool was of course incredible,

0:56:440:56:47

so he will be missed but I am sure he will be at Anfield more

0:56:470:56:50

and I will be able to speak to him that bit more.

0:56:500:56:53

I had better get the glasses off!

0:56:550:56:57

Alan's professional career has been amazing.

0:57:020:57:06

To be able to say he's my brother is wonderful.

0:57:060:57:12

One minute to transmission, one minute!

0:57:120:57:14

I don't think he will miss working on a Saturday,

0:57:170:57:20

but he will miss the team that he works with.

0:57:200:57:23

He's loved working on Match of the Day for so many years.

0:57:230:57:26

Good evening, the final day of a magnificent Barclays Premier League

0:57:280:57:32

season began with two teams in contention for the title.

0:57:320:57:35

Manchester City were favourites but despite their collapse

0:57:350:57:38

at Crystal Palace, Liverpool still dared to dream.

0:57:380:57:41

I have certainly enjoyed watching him as a player.

0:57:410:57:44

I have loved watching him as a pundit

0:57:440:57:46

and he will certainly be missed.

0:57:460:57:48

It's your last show, Mr Alan Hansen.

0:57:490:57:50

-Very sad.

-22 years. We will miss you.

0:57:500:57:55

Very few players in the history of the game achieved more than him

0:57:550:57:58

at home and abroad, so he always carried that authority.

0:57:580:58:01

Difficult to replace, that.

0:58:010:58:03

The best ever moment I've had on Match of the Day

0:58:030:58:05

was a couple of minutes ago

0:58:050:58:07

when you struggled to find your glasses to read the league tables.

0:58:070:58:11

That is what's changed!

0:58:110:58:13

There's a saying that you have your best games when you don't play.

0:58:130:58:16

By that, some of that Alan Hansen, when he's not on there,

0:58:160:58:19

he will be missed so much

0:58:190:58:20

and people will look back and go, we missed that.

0:58:200:58:23

Thanks, Alan.

0:58:230:58:25

APPLAUSE

0:58:260:58:28

Thank you, everybody.

0:58:280:58:30

-It's emotional.

-Yes, it is, it's emotional.

0:58:300:58:33

He's a wee boy from Sauchie that made good.

0:58:330:58:36

But at the end of the day, he's still a wee boy from Sauchie.

0:58:360:58:39

This is the right time for me to go

0:58:390:58:41

and I've had the greatest time you could ever imagine.

0:58:410:58:44

We're going to miss you. I think you're the real class of '92.

0:58:440:58:48

There you are, look at that! Schmaltz at last from Lineker!

0:58:500:58:53

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