Jimmy Ellis - An Actor's Life


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As we know, this is a fellow, you know,

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Pre-Mr Ray and Mr Neeson and Dunbar and all those people.

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You were up there, that accent was on British television in a way it had never been before.

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Let me tell you, Bob, I've been promoted.

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To crime patrol.

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Come on. Dirty great big Irish breakfast, that's what you want.

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If you'll excuse me, I have to go to get some essence of goat.

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I remember stories you used to tell, they would start on a Monday and finish on a Thursday.

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He has a generosity of spirit

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that one hopes all fine artists have but they don't.

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But Jimmy has it in abundance.

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If James Ellis is your friend, then you've found the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

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All along there, Helen's Bay, Bangor, Bangor West,

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all places where I spent all my holidays in my childhood.

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'One of the things I most admire about Jimmy is his love of Northern Ireland.'

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He just sort of glows and puffs himself up at the mention

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of Samson and Goliath and Cave Hill, the Albert Clock.

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Samson and Goliath, isn't it? Is that right?

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You've got me there with my eyesight, son.

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Jimmy is never happier when you decide, "We won't fly back,

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we'll drive, take the Liverpool boat and we'll go across."

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And that to Jimmy is the proper way to return to Northern Ireland.

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You have the wonderful sort of welcoming of Samson and Goliath, glowing daffodil yellow

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in the mist, and you've got Victoria Park and you've got the hills of Belfast and so forth.

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And you can actually see this light up in Jimmy's eyes.

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He becomes alive when he comes back to Belfast.

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"Homeward I crawl, a wretched prodigal, to bide a while

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"and then again depart,

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"to leave once more,

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"once more to feel bereft, your picture album in my mental holdall,

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"the hills of Antrim etched upon my heart.

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"For truth to tell,

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"I never really left."

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To go back to the beginning,

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the chance of my becoming an actor at all was trillions, trillions to one.

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I was born in 1931 into the Depression years, into a working-class family.

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Well, that's a bit of an exaggeration.

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It was an unemployed-class family.

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I wasn't even very good at joining in family entertainments.

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My father loved to sing a song, my cousins would sing a song.

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I had several cousins who played instruments but none of it landed on me.

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I was so shy, I wouldn't get up and say a recitation even.

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And it got so bad, I would run and hide under the stairs.

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Anything rather than have to get up and say anything.

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Or sing a song, oh, no. So I showed no promise at an early age.

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Ah.

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Present.

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Just taking a walk down memory lane, darling.

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'It's been well-documented,

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'I think, in the press in Northern Ireland'

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that Jimmy's had a bit of a blip with his ill health this last 12 months.

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He's had a little stroke but it's not deprived him of any

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of his vital faculties or any of the joy of speech.

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He's had to spend a little while in hospital.

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They've got the medication right and he's as good as new.

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I like to use this space because it gives me a kind of sense of theatre.

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A sort of small proscenium, so it helps me

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transmit myself ahead into the theatre.

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Did you see a young lad passing this way

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in the early morning or the fall of night?

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Did you see the young lad?

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What kind was he?

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An ugly young streeler with a murderous gob on him and a little switch in his hand.

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I met a tramper who met him coming this way at the fall of night.

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For what do I want him?

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I want to destroy him for breaking the head on me

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with the clout of a loy.

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It was he did that

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and amn't I the great wonder to have traced him ten days with that rent in my crown, hey?

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What? What, what are you saying?

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Torment him, is it?

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And I who have to hold it out with the patience of a martyred saint.

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Well, I'm driven out in my old age with none to aid me.

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# Life goes on day after day... #

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Memories,

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memories.

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It was early 1938, when I was just seven years old, that we travelled to Liverpool, where my father,

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a sheet-metal worker, got work at Cammell Laird shipyard.

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# ..cross the Mersey cos this land's the place I love

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I remember going across with my father to cross the Mersey on the ferry, which was more

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expensive than the train tunnel, but I used to hate going on the train.

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I always wanted to go on the ferry.

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# So ferry cross the Mersey... #

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One thing I do remember later on in life

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was my father couldn't afford to go into the Adelphi Hotel,

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which was very smart, but he'd got himself turned out very nicely.

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He'd got a nice suit on.

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I went through the swing doors with my father

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and I was taken down the stairs to this incredible palace of a place.

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The lavatory downstairs with all wash hand basins and everything.

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And my father said, "This is how the other half live, son."

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Then he saw somebody polishing... A toff was having his shoes polished.

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And he said to me,

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"Never do that, son."

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I said, "What was that, Father?"

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"Never let another man polish your shoes," he said, "It's demeaning."

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"You polish your shoes, no matter how well you do in life."

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That stuck in my head.

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After about a year across the water, we returned to 30 Park Avenue

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in the shadow of Harland and Woolf which was a target for the German Luftwaffe.

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It became the family home for the next half-century.

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Let's go and have a look.

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During the war,

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it was a little, low-profit boarding house.

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Servicemen stayed there.

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I remember Aircraftsman Reynolds and Aircraftsman Thomas.

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We had two American sailors, from North Dakota,

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I remember, because I was interested in geography

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and I asked them where they came from and they said, "We're from North Dakota."

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And in the attic was Captain Nolan,

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the air-raid warden for Dun Laoghaire up the road there.

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As soon as the sirens started, he was up at his post.

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He had come up from Dublin but he'd served in the British Army and fought in Gallipoli.

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He was coming up to do his bit.

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So the whole house was actually like a theatre in itself.

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It was an extraordinary place for a little boy to grow up in

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and it was from here that I went to Strand School down the road.

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Well, Paul.

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That's Strand Public Elementary School as I knew it.

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I don't know how but I went to a decent little primary school, public elementary school as they

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were called in those days, Strand primary, and I got

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a scholarship, a city scholarship to Methodist and that changed my life.

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I think, as far as I remember, we were the first lot of Belfast city scholars.

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There were 200 scholarships and he got one, I got one.

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And we started at Methodist together.

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Me from the Ulmer Road, him from Sydenham.

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The first time I was aware of him must have been that first term.

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There was this very skinny,

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slightly buck-toothed guy from Sydenham.

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Not much has changed.

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He didn't want to appear to be a swot, to be an intellectual, to know a lot.

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I suppose because of his mates back in East Belfast.

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He, Ken Jameson, Jimmy and I, our threesome, didn't see a lot of those guys.

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But he would sometimes produce a facade

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of being something of a scallywag, a bit of an idiot, you know.

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And he would get himself off the hook and various scrapes that he'd get it into by acting this,

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which he's really continued to do off and on all through his life.

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-Well, look at that.

-This wasn't here in our day, was it, that bit.

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-The roof was there.

-Look at that.

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Heritage visitors' centre.

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Well. This ought to bring back memories.

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What was this?

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-A school room or something, wasn't it?

-It must have been.

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Jimmy, when he was very young, went to Methodist School.

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And his mates, his peer group,

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didn't particularly accept that.

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Jimmy began acting by arriving home from Methodist and getting off

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the bus and pretending that he didn't like going to Methodist.

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Pretending that he didn't like this very academic exercise, complaining about the number of homeworks.

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The reality is, Jimmy adored it, he adored translating the poetry of Ronsard,

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he adored the discussions about the visual arts, about Cezanne and Monet and so forth.

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Shall we sign the visitors' book?

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We'll do that later.

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I never thought the day would come that we'd be signing the visitors' book.

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I went right through the sixth form, got a fantastic education

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and that is where I picked up the French accent.

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The teacher, who was so inspirational,

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taught us and I mimicked him like a parrot, you know.

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Comme on voit sur la branche au mois de Mai la rose

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En sa belle jeunesse,

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en sa premiere fleur. I'll never forget him.

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Right, what did you find?

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That's, that's you as the leading part.

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That's right, yes, and where's Albert Jameson?

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There's Albert Jameson,

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in solitary state.

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Wonderful! That's a part of a set the three of us did together.

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Look at that. Yes, it is.

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That's me as Dr Ford-Waterlow.

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We had a dramatic society, which I joined a very reluctantly.

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Three of us did the set for this.

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Funnily enough, when I was on that stage,

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I thought, "This is funny, I know all my lines."

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the military people are laughing and my mother and father are out there.

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And I thought, "I'm not doing too bad here."

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I had wonderful make-up.

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I've got a marvellous photograph.

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Dr Ford-Waterlow. I don't know what I was doing, you know.

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It was pretty dreadful but there you are, it was my blooding.

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From there, I went to university.

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I joined a dramatic society, which I thought would be great fun to do,

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now that I had got the flavour for it.

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I also was a bit short of money, a poor student,

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got some parts at the Arts Theatre for two or three quid a week

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and spent all my time doing that.

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Jim Greene coped with it a bit but I couldn't cope with it at at all.

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And I couldn't cope with concentrating on two things at once so I lost my scholarship.

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And after that, to my utter amazement,

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I was awarded the Tyrone Guthrie scholarship to Bristol Old Vic.

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I couldn't believe it.

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But I had something to tell my mother and father.

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I had still no idea of becoming an actor but I thought, I can get away to Bristol

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and say, you know, that I'm getting another scholarship.

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My father was very pleased, "That's very good, is that what you want to do?"

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I said, "Oh, well."

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I didn't want to be an actor at all at that stage.

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The first time I met him, he'd just won a scholarship to the Bristol Old Vic.

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When I met him, I really didn't think

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he had a future as an actor because the accent was so strong.

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My accent

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let me down. I'm going in to see if I could perhaps join a company, I went in,

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"I just wondered, on the strength of what I have done, Mr Carey,

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"if you've seen any of my work at the school or heard my..."

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"Not with that accent, dear boy.

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"I'm afraid not.

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"I think your best chance of finding a start in the theatre is to go back to Ireland."

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When I got back home to Belfast, I went to the Group Theatre

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but it was taking you on on no money at all.

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So I was offered this part and my heart sank.

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I read the script and I was terrified.

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To cut a long story short, nobody said anything but I was a total failure.

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But JG Devlin went round and said,

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to the boss,

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"Right money, please."

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He became a lifelong friend, JG Devlin.

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A wonderful character, known in the business, known by everybody.

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I miss him very much.

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Devlin was a terrific man of the theatre.

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And they just don't breed them that way any more.

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I think Jimmy was a great favourite of his.

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Jimmy and I, our lives have sort of intertwined

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because I was instrumental in introducing him to his first wife,

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Betty, Betty Hogg, who's now Beth Ellis.

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Which was a pretty good marriage as long as it lasted.

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When I think of Jimmy Ellis, I do think of him as this kind of idealistic

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young man, coming back from England with a head full of ideas and ready to do some sort of good work,

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to bring the Group Theatre back to its former glory,

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and to give it a really vital place in the community again.

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And in order to do that, Ellis thinks, I think,

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he needs to start tackling some of the more contentious themes, if you like.

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I suppose Over The Bridge turned out to be the most sensational play ever put on in Belfast.

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Perhaps the most controversial,

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powerful episode in the history of Northern Irish theatre,

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to this day. And Jimmy Ellis made that happen, he was the centre of that.

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Sam Thompson's play is basically about sectarianism within the trade union movement in the shipyard.

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To actually put that sectarianism on stage shows a contentious event, potentially, for the state.

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When Sam Thompson gives him the play, they agree to produce it, they cast it,

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they hold a press launch to advertise that they're going to launch this play

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and then the plug is pulled on it because they decide that this play is not appropriate.

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The directors of the Group Theatre felt that the script

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that they'd got from Sam Thompson was likely

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to reawaken the sectarian antagonisms in the community.

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It was about the shipyard and the relationships

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of the communities within the shipyard.

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And they, in fact, decided not to put on the play.

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Tony Guthrie described it as censorship unofficial by the establishment.

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I kept saying, "I don't think our board has the right to stop

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"the Belfast public judging for itself whether the play is fit to be seen.

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"If they don't think it's good, they'll judge with their feet."

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Jimmy rang me up and sent me the script and I read it and I thought, "God, you could never do this.

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"You couldn't do this in Belfast."

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I said, "Jimmy, if we do it, do you think we'll get shot?"

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And he said, "We'll take a chance," and he did, he took a tremendous chance.

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It took great courage, really, to put on Over The Bridge.

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They decided to stage it at the Empire Theatre of Varieties,

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which is a big theatre, it's a big variety, music hall type theatre.

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On the night of the premiere at the Empire Theatre,

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there is a police presence and people aren't quite sure how the public are going to react to it.

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But in the event, it's a huge success.

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The opening night was incredible.

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It was actually tingling with excitement and you peeped through the curtains and the whole stalls

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was surrounded by B Specials, revolvers at the ready.

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And we really did expect trouble.

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-The result and the outcome of Over The Bridge was that the Ulster Group Theatre disintegrated.

-Yes.

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There was a kind of diaspora of Ulster actors.

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They went into television across the water and so on.

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-Yes. They did very well.

-Yes indeed.

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The Group Theatre as a building was taken over by Jimmy Young, who ran it as a kind of comedy theatre,

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but the old tradition, the Group Theatre itself, foundered.

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I crossed the Irish Sea,

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with all that behind me, knowing that there was no future for me in the theatre in Belfast.

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Jimmy did not leave Northern Ireland to pursue an acting career

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anywhere else, Jimmy had no choice but to leave Northern Ireland.

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Jimmy was not going to have any future in Northern Ireland after producing Over The Bridge,

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because there was then, and there always has been,

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a core of special interest groups at work in Northern Ireland that if you offend, the black mark

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stains for quite some time. And Jimmy had offended.

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Worse than offending, Jimmy had then gone and had a huge, popular, commercial success with the play.

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And the future would have been a very bleak for him here in Northern Ireland.

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So off Jimmy went to England and indeed, the rest is history.

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After a few minor roles in things like Robin Hood and the title role in a play by a Stewart Love

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called The Randy Dandy, my first real break came in 1961, when I was seen for a new crime series.

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I went along and this producer was a very kindly looking man and he said,

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"The first question I'd like to ask you is, can you do Liverpool Irish?"

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I said, "I've heard this one before."

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I said, "Do Liverpool Irish?

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"I am Liverpool Irish."

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This is remembering my childhood.

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I said, "What's the name of the part?"

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He said, "The part is McGinty."

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I said, "It's a bit of a joke name, that, in Ireland," I said.

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"Maybe it might be all right here but it's a bit stage Irish, you know, for a serious programme."

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"Oh, dear,

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"would you suggest something?" I said, "Something that sounds Irish,

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"like Lynch, you know?"

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"Lynch sounds good.

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"Could you catch the next train to Liverpool?"

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So that was how Z Cars started.

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Well, ten o'clock and all is well.

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Oh, dear, I'm off to my pit.

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-Lynch.

-Yes, Sergeant Twentyman.

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These fellows you caught in the van, I want a report.

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All right, Sarge, tomorrow. And tomorrow and tomorrow.

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Tonight, tonight and tonight.

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Sarge, my shift finishes at ten.

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You're a copper 24 hours a day, I want that report on the CID with full particulars, right.

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-Sergeant Trentiman.

-What is it?

-There's a bundle at the tav.

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At the tav? Get your car out.

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I'll get my coat on, we'll get down there. Don't forget.

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Come on, lads, let's have it!

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Where do they get the money to drink of a Saturday night?

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When they've drunk it all of a Friday?

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It was supposed to run for six episodes, which I thought was wonderful.

0:23:580:24:03

If they thought it was successful, they might do another seven.

0:24:030:24:08

And I thought, "Whoa,

0:24:080:24:11

"what a job, this is lovely."

0:24:110:24:13

Z Cars was real and you could see that they had their faults.

0:24:130:24:18

And it was great to see a local fellow because Belfast wasn't really on the map in those days, you know.

0:24:180:24:23

The Northern Ireland accent warmed the cockles of your heart,

0:24:230:24:27

it really did, and that theme tune that they had, you know...

0:24:270:24:30

Z CARS THEME TUNE PLAYS

0:24:320:24:36

My mother and father were both very excited about him and they brought us down.

0:24:440:24:49

Something called Z Cars was starting on the television.

0:24:490:24:51

I remember the tune of it coming up and I remember them sitting down,

0:24:510:24:55

and they were waiting.

0:24:550:24:58

This was James Ellis, he was playing a policeman

0:24:580:25:02

and he had a Northern Ireland accent and, it was kind of like,

0:25:020:25:06

"Wow, he's a good policeman!"

0:25:060:25:08

And also he had our accent and our accent was so rare on television.

0:25:080:25:13

All right then, let's have your particulars.

0:25:130:25:16

Date of birth, place of birth and all the names you've used in your bent life.

0:25:160:25:21

Look mate, I'm telling you nothing.

0:25:210:25:23

-I know my rights.

-Particulars, Stiegen.

0:25:230:25:25

Mind, he's got a nasty temper.

0:25:250:25:27

Now listen, mate. I've done time for wounding policemen before.

0:25:270:25:30

And I'll do it again if you so much as touch me.

0:25:300:25:32

-Particulars, Stiegen.

-You interfering black enamel git!

0:25:320:25:35

Thanks to Jimmy actually,

0:25:350:25:38

the Ulster accent became known as the Ulster accent.

0:25:380:25:42

And I think he was the first actor

0:25:420:25:44

who really made it popular.

0:25:440:25:47

We were talking there about...

0:25:500:25:53

people who would go across, they would lose an accent.

0:25:530:25:57

-Some people would retain their accent, some people would lose it quite quick.

-You didn't.

0:25:570:26:02

I think, I've been living in London now longer than I lived at home.

0:26:020:26:07

Which is absurd to me, in a way, but I think subconsciously with me,

0:26:070:26:12

coming from Broughshane, moving to Coleraine, getting into acting, comes from my background.

0:26:120:26:17

I think subconsciously, I daren't have lost the accent.

0:26:170:26:21

That was my feeling exactly but don't forget, you're a brilliant actor, son.

0:26:210:26:26

-Oh, well...

-Don't forget.

0:26:260:26:29

But one of the things I do feel proud about was something much later that I did, Cold Feet,

0:26:290:26:34

was I felt that you were taking that accent

0:26:340:26:36

out of the context Northern Ireland was always associated with

0:26:360:26:40

and you were actually showing that there is a life outside of that.

0:26:400:26:44

There's personalities outside of that world. It was good to...

0:26:440:26:49

The only times you heard Northern Irish accents were in the news.

0:26:490:26:52

Yeah, but that's the way before my time. You never heard it at all.

0:26:520:26:56

You never heard Northern Ireland news until the troubles started.

0:26:560:26:59

I was over here long before the troubles.

0:26:590:27:02

-I played Z Cars for years

-You made it an awful lot easier for us, quite frankly,

0:27:020:27:08

and if you have any legacy, of which there will be much written about your many legacies,

0:27:080:27:15

you made it an awful lot easier for boys like me and Adrian and Liam

0:27:150:27:19

to settle in this world over here. So we're grateful to you.

0:27:190:27:23

And you were the first person to educate me about wine, my mother's never forgiven you!

0:27:230:27:28

You're not going to believe this but the furnished Z Car, during the rehearsal week,

0:27:300:27:36

that we got was two chairs like this, side by side.

0:27:360:27:43

And two big eejits in there, going...

0:27:430:27:46

Brrrrm! Brrrm!

0:27:480:27:50

Like two kids.

0:27:510:27:53

Or reaching over.

0:27:530:27:56

"Z Victor Two to BD."

0:27:560:27:59

When I think back, it was all so ridiculous.

0:28:010:28:04

But when we got in the studio, it was all very technical then.

0:28:040:28:08

Then we had a... Well, even then, we had a sort of cut out car, it wasn't a real car at all.

0:28:080:28:14

It was a sawn in half car

0:28:140:28:17

with that little back projection behind us.

0:28:170:28:20

Hello, Z Victor Two to BD.

0:28:200:28:22

-Z Victor Two, go ahead.

-Z Victor Two proceeding to Parkfield West,

0:28:220:28:27

pursuing enquiries.

0:28:270:28:29

-Z Victor Two, Roger.

-Here's a little memento,

0:28:290:28:33

although we didn't have it at rehearsal.

0:28:330:28:37

I've got it now, do you understand?

0:28:370:28:39

And I've got this original police whistle.

0:28:390:28:42

After 16 years, the series that put flesh on the television policeman,

0:28:480:28:53

and in the process took a bit of blood out of him, is coming to an end.

0:28:530:28:57

The Z Victors have finally become the losers in the battle of the telly cops.

0:28:570:29:02

It's a nostalgic time for Jimmy Ellis,

0:29:020:29:04

the actor who's put most of his professional life so far

0:29:040:29:08

into the colourful character of Bert Lynch.

0:29:080:29:11

There was a party when Z Cars finally ended

0:29:110:29:15

that involved, obviously, all the people. All the stars were there -

0:29:150:29:21

they gathered for this big party.

0:29:210:29:23

And as Jimmy says, everybody was kind of seeking to impress everybody else

0:29:230:29:28

as to what their next job was, and so-and-so was going to do something

0:29:280:29:32

with the Royal Shakespeare and so-and-so had a movie coming up.

0:29:320:29:35

Jimmy himself had heard there was a prospect of him taking part in a movie, in a big film.

0:29:350:29:42

So everybody knows what everybody else is pretending they're doing, whether it's true or not.

0:29:420:29:48

And there's a message for Jimmy that it's Hollywood on the line.

0:29:480:29:52

So he decides it's somebody winding him up. He paid no attention and carried on talking.

0:29:520:29:58

And the PA kept coming back saying, "Look, I've got Hollywood on the line."

0:29:580:30:02

"Yeah, yeah, you've got Hollywood on the line". He eventually says,

0:30:020:30:06

"All right, I'll take the phone." And he picks up the phone and a voice says, "Is that Mr Ellis?

0:30:060:30:11

"I'm running a church fete in Hollywood in the next few weeks,

0:30:110:30:15

and now that I hear you might be out of work, would you be free to come along and open it?"

0:30:150:30:20

# I remember the days Of just keeping time

0:30:200:30:25

# Of hanging around In sleepy towns forever

0:30:250:30:31

# Back roads empty for miles

0:30:310:30:35

# Well, you can't have a dream and cut it to fit

0:30:370:30:41

# But when I saw you, I knew

0:30:410:30:46

# We'd go together like a wink and a smile... #

0:30:460:30:51

We got married on 10th of January 1976, here in this village.

0:30:530:30:59

The village, of course, has never actually forgotten the wedding.

0:31:030:31:07

That's the funny part about it.

0:31:070:31:08

I sometimes get, "You were a handsome young man in those days".

0:31:080:31:14

I said, "Well, I'm not so young

0:31:140:31:17

and I wasn't as young as I looked, perhaps".

0:31:170:31:20

We were a handsome couple, that's what we were.

0:31:220:31:25

You were beautiful.

0:31:270:31:29

Thank you very much.

0:31:290:31:30

# We go together

0:31:300:31:34

# Like a wink and a smile. #

0:31:340:31:39

Z Cars ended in 1978.

0:31:450:31:48

I was virtually unemployable.

0:31:480:31:51

And suddenly I thought the only thing to do would be to get a stage place somewhere and hide.

0:31:510:31:58

That's the only thing you can do.

0:31:580:32:01

You don't get exposed on TV, you thought, "I'm in the West End."

0:32:010:32:05

And I got the part in Once A Catholic.

0:32:050:32:08

It ran for, in my case, a year.

0:32:080:32:12

Shortly after our son Toto was born in 1981,

0:32:210:32:25

I was cast as Vershinin

0:32:250:32:27

in Brian Friel's version of Chekhov's Three Sisters back in Ireland.

0:32:270:32:33

During the rehearsals of that,

0:32:330:32:36

towards the end of the rehearsals,

0:32:360:32:40

I had these two men turn up -

0:32:400:32:43

Chris Parr and Paul Seed.

0:32:430:32:46

And I didn't know who they were.

0:32:460:32:50

The Jimmy that I knew of then was the rather slim and always very affable Bert Lynch in Z Cars.

0:32:520:33:00

Well, firstly when I met Jimmy,

0:33:000:33:02

a much bigger man than the Bert Lynch that I remembered...

0:33:020:33:07

appeared.

0:33:070:33:09

So, my fears were allayed on that score.

0:33:090:33:14

And finally I plucked up courage and I said to him,

0:33:140:33:18

"Jimmy, this is a fighting man.

0:33:180:33:21

"Do you think you could play him convincingly?"

0:33:210:33:25

And Jimmy stared at me, clenched his fists and held them under my nose and he said...

0:33:250:33:32

"Well, what do you think, Chris?"

0:33:330:33:36

And I...

0:33:360:33:38

was convinced.

0:33:380:33:41

My image of Jimmy at that stage, 25 years,

0:33:410:33:44

I remember the beanpole sergeant in Z Cars.

0:33:440:33:47

And we were talking about this to Chris Parr and Paul Seed,

0:33:470:33:53

and I was saying, "Some of the hardest men I know, you'd think he'd blow them over".

0:33:530:33:59

You know, they don't have to be big.

0:33:590:34:00

But Jimmy had become physically big and physically impressive in that sense.

0:34:000:34:05

He knew the hard man scene because he was brought up in East Belfast

0:34:050:34:09

and he'd been around the pubs and the snooker halls.

0:34:090:34:12

And he knew you'd get a dig in the gob if you looked at the wrong person at the wrong time.

0:34:120:34:16

And this was part of what he brought to the Billy plays. He understood the subtext perfectly.

0:34:160:34:22

Take care of them for me, son.

0:34:240:34:26

This is the best way.

0:34:260:34:29

It's the only way.

0:34:300:34:31

Good luck, Da.

0:34:490:34:52

'The first day of rehearsal for the first Billy play'

0:34:520:34:55

I walked into the room, you were already there, you were early.

0:34:550:34:58

-You were already there.

-I was always early.

0:34:580:35:01

And I think I said hello.

0:35:010:35:04

But you then went into a story as if we had known each other for the previous 50 years.

0:35:040:35:10

And as far as I could tell, I didn't see you draw breath for about another hour and a half.

0:35:100:35:17

And I don't think for the first part of my professional career, I opened my mouth.

0:35:170:35:21

I just went, "Jesus, Jimmy hasn't finished yet! He hasn't finished!"

0:35:210:35:24

And you were being very cute, as my mother would say.

0:35:240:35:27

It was all by way of an illustration for Paul Seed about something very particular in the scene you wanted.

0:35:270:35:34

'I remember telling my granny I was acting with Jimmy Ellis. And I thought she was going to faint.'

0:35:340:35:39

It was like a hearthrob to her. "Jimmy Ellis from Z Cars?!

0:35:390:35:42

"I can't believe it!"

0:35:420:35:44

'When I did the first Billy play I was only nine,

0:35:440:35:47

'and I didn't realise how well known and famous Jimmy Ellis was.'

0:35:470:35:52

And it sort of went over my head a lot.

0:35:520:35:55

What surprised me was he had so much time for me and Tracy.

0:35:550:35:58

-He had no choice!

-Well, maybe he didn't, but he was just such a father figure to us and he looked

0:35:580:36:03

after us, and he had sweets for us and he didn't mind us crawling all over him like monkeys every day.

0:36:030:36:09

He's just such a lovely man and that's what I always remember.

0:36:090:36:12

-Dad?

-I said a half a cup.

0:36:170:36:19

That's three quarters.

0:36:190:36:21

-What?

-Can Billy come back?

0:36:210:36:25

I told you, I'm going.

0:36:260:36:28

After that you and him's in charge.

0:36:280:36:31

He'll have to come back to collect some clothes, but I'd like him back.

0:36:310:36:34

'We were all starting out for the first time.

0:36:360:36:38

'Well, the three of us were anyway, and Ken was as well.

0:36:380:36:43

'Jimmy had just so much television experience.'

0:36:430:36:46

Does he still fart and blame it on the cat?

0:36:460:36:49

But he didn't pass it on in a way that was ever patronising.

0:36:490:36:54

-No, he was never a diva.

-Never.

0:36:540:36:56

It was always about helping you and helping the actual piece.

0:36:560:37:01

Take care of yourself, Da.

0:37:040:37:06

I'm only going to the bloody shipyard,

0:37:070:37:10

not the Western Front.

0:37:100:37:12

The scene where she's crying. Do you remember you crying?

0:37:160:37:22

It was the whole scene where he roughs up Colm Convey

0:37:220:37:26

and throws him out.

0:37:260:37:28

Your ma can't talk about nobody.

0:37:280:37:30

She serviced half the American fleet in her day.

0:37:300:37:33

I suppose that's where you got your yellow streak from, eh?

0:37:330:37:36

You tell her if she ever talks about my wife again, I'll smash her brains all over the nearest wall!

0:37:360:37:42

You tell her my wife's a lady compared with her.

0:37:420:37:45

You tell her my wife's near dead and she's still a better looking woman than her.

0:37:450:37:49

You tell your old bitch that!

0:37:490:37:52

Quickly!

0:37:520:37:54

Oh, that's right, the big bad wolf's here.

0:37:590:38:02

You chase the kiddies off to bed.

0:38:020:38:05

You're just like your ma.

0:38:050:38:07

-It's late, dad.

-"It's late, dad!"

0:38:070:38:09

Damn the late!

0:38:090:38:11

I'm their father. Why did you make me say I wasn't, because I am?

0:38:110:38:17

They're mine! My kids!

0:38:170:38:19

I pulled the tablecloth away.

0:38:190:38:21

I was raging and bawling.

0:38:210:38:24

And Brid Brennan was standing at the end of the table and the little ones ran up the stairs in fear.

0:38:240:38:29

And he yelled, "I want my children to kiss me night, night".

0:38:290:38:32

"I want my children to kiss me night, night".

0:38:320:38:36

And I thought, that wasn't bad, I thought to myself inside.

0:38:360:38:42

-It's bound to be, "Shall we do it again?"

-Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:38:420:38:45

And I went over. Excuse me, I'm not going to do it to you.

0:38:450:38:48

But between the banisters, I grabbed the banisters and I started to shake them.

0:38:480:38:53

And a little face came in...

0:38:530:38:56

-Stop bloody crying!

-Leave them alone and let them go to bed!

-Don't you tell me what to do!

0:38:560:39:02

I'm sick of you telling me what to do!

0:39:020:39:04

GIRL SOBS

0:39:040:39:06

Goodnight daddy.

0:39:150:39:17

At the time, I just cracked up.

0:39:260:39:29

I cracked up because they were such lovely kids.

0:39:290:39:33

I cracked up... The tears are in my eyes still remembering it.

0:39:330:39:36

I cracked up and went...

0:39:360:39:38

Collapsed in a heap.

0:39:400:39:43

Sit down, Da.

0:39:430:39:44

'We looked at each other.

0:39:470:39:49

'And I said, had I done something wrong, why you crying for?

0:39:490:39:55

'He was so emotionally involved. He was shaking and crying.'

0:39:550:39:59

Paul Seed, the director, had to come over and hold him.

0:39:590:40:02

I kept saying, "What are you crying for? What have I done wrong?"

0:40:020:40:05

But it was just really,

0:40:050:40:07

the whole emotion of it overwhelmed.

0:40:070:40:09

I suppose that was what the Billy plays were about, it was such a powerful piece.

0:40:090:40:14

And Jimmy was the real central figure.

0:40:140:40:17

He gelled everything together.

0:40:170:40:20

-Are you all right?

-I'm fine.

0:40:300:40:32

I've never known an actor with a track record like Jimmy Ellis, so little ego.

0:40:340:40:40

There's no ego there at all, it's quite surprising.

0:40:400:40:43

I mean, maybe in his bathroom in the mirror,

0:40:430:40:47

but there's no ego-trip,

0:40:470:40:49

-no nonsense tantrums.

-Come on!

0:40:490:40:51

Dirty you great big Irish breakfast, that's what you want.

0:40:510:40:56

Soda bread, tattie bread,

0:40:560:40:57

-egg, bacon, sausage. Smothered with that much sauce it will make your eyes water.

-Sounds revolting!

0:40:570:41:04

Come on.

0:41:060:41:08

More than just the old rose-tinted spectacles, there was something about those plays, wasn't there?

0:41:110:41:16

There was a kind of a fire in the belly of them.

0:41:160:41:20

I remember when the first one went out, I was buying a cup of tea the next day in London.

0:41:200:41:26

A woman said to me...she happened to be from Leeds. I remember.

0:41:260:41:30

But she said, "Yes, I really loved that, just like up north as well."

0:41:300:41:36

-I got a lot of that.

-There was a connection.

0:41:360:41:38

-A tremendous connection.

-The end of a certain kind of working-class life.

0:41:380:41:43

I don't think they realised.

0:41:430:41:45

I got stopped by four lads who tried to take me off for a drink.

0:41:450:41:50

"'Ere, you're just like my dad."

0:41:500:41:54

And the other one's going, "Hey, you're like my dad."

0:41:540:41:59

"You're just like my dad."

0:41:590:42:02

"Are you coming for a drink?" They all grabbed me. And it was the middle of the day.

0:42:020:42:07

And I thought,

0:42:070:42:09

"I've got to go with these lads," you know.

0:42:090:42:12

I was offered a very small part in Boys From the Blackstuff.

0:42:280:42:33

I read the part, discovered it was right up my street.

0:42:330:42:38

I thought, this is just me to a T.

0:42:380:42:41

Hey, pop!

0:42:410:42:43

You! Jimmy!

0:42:430:42:46

'I wasn't expecting... It was a great opportunity for me'

0:42:470:42:50

because it was a great chance to do a showing off part.

0:42:500:42:54

Don't I know you from somewhere?

0:42:570:42:59

I'm...

0:43:010:43:04

I'm...

0:43:040:43:07

I'm wet.

0:43:110:43:13

It's the climate, son.

0:43:130:43:16

I wish I was dead.

0:43:160:43:19

It's this city, man.

0:43:190:43:22

It's nae use.

0:43:220:43:24

'I have met a few winos in my time.

0:43:240:43:26

'I've even talked to them.

0:43:260:43:29

'As an actor, I'll talk to anybody, and I make it my business.'

0:43:290:43:34

I talked to somebody the other day who was talking to me, and I said, "I know you're studying me."

0:43:360:43:43

I said, "You don't know I'm studying you."

0:43:430:43:46

"Oh, why is that?" I said, "I study everybody.

0:43:480:43:52

"Because I'm an actor."

0:43:520:43:53

Don't be in there.

0:44:030:44:05

If you smash a window you get a cell for the night.

0:44:060:44:10

You get the evening as well.

0:44:100:44:12

It's dry in a cell. Nae more rain.

0:44:140:44:17

HE SINGS DRUNKENLY

0:44:190:44:21

ALARM BELL RINGS

0:44:390:44:41

That was MA windae!

0:44:450:44:48

We had the awful tragedy of Adams's death

0:45:080:45:13

on the 25th August, 1988.

0:45:130:45:16

My eldest son Adam was...

0:45:190:45:21

..for want a better word...

0:45:220:45:26

the newspapers called it "mugged",

0:45:260:45:29

but he was stabbed, murdered.

0:45:290:45:32

I think initially Jimmy felt that perhaps it was meant for him,

0:45:340:45:38

because the man who murdered him was from Cork.

0:45:380:45:41

And Jimmy thought it was something to do with Irish politics involved, which was totally wrong actually.

0:45:410:45:47

This guy had been boasting to his friends that he'd kill someone

0:45:470:45:51

and none of them believed him, so he set out to prove it.

0:45:510:45:54

And he was trying to mug Adam who was fishing by the canal.

0:45:540:45:58

He only had a couple of shillings on him, and this guy had a sock full of sand.

0:45:580:46:02

And he battered him. And Jimmy be said, "I'll tell you about it some time, Graham, it was terrible."

0:46:020:46:07

He said, "I was so angry, I used to go to where Adam's body was found

0:46:070:46:12

"and they still had the chalk marks on the ground of the body.

0:46:120:46:15

"I went into the local pubs and I just kicked the doors open.

0:46:150:46:19

"I'd go to the bar and just scatter everything."

0:46:190:46:21

And he said, "I wanted someone to say something or do something.

0:46:210:46:25

"I'd have killed them."

0:46:250:46:27

He said, "I came out one night and I was walking long, and somebody

0:46:270:46:30

grabbed me, turned me around and threw me against the wall.

0:46:300:46:33

It was a big policeman. And he said, "Do you want to know how your son died?

0:46:330:46:37

I'll tell you how your bloody son died, I'll show you where he died."

0:46:370:46:39

He said, "They dragged him down the canal and they stood there where chalk marks were still,

0:46:390:46:44

"and he told me exactly what had happened."

0:46:440:46:47

And he said, "There's nothing you could do to change that, Jimmy."

0:46:470:46:50

And so it was one of those...

0:46:500:46:52

life-changing experiences for Jimmy, I feel.

0:46:520:46:57

Everybody has tragedies in their life.

0:47:000:47:04

Anybody else...

0:47:040:47:06

It's not alone...

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for one person...

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to suffer disasters.

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There are many people...

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who my heart goes out to.

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It happens every day.

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It's just, when it happens to you,

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it seems to destroy your universe.

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'The family were devastated,

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'and Robina came to the rescue.'

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And since that moment,

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we are one family.

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My first wife calls Robina, Saint Robina!

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So, it's lovely to have a family around you one more time.

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It makes me a very happy man.

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Mandy rang, Jimmy, to say they'd all got back from holiday safe and sound.

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Well, where was I?

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Obviously, the way,

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the effect of that on his life was extraordinary and it's one of those

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things that I know you either don't come back from, or something

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inside you again comes to meet you and you can get over,

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get on to another level with that.

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And I think it's certainly also made him acutely aware.

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It's the moment when he obviously became a poet.

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Because I do think poetry is the language of shock.

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His book comes out. And this is a major thing.

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And he's dedicated a poem to my father in the book, and he invites him to the launch.

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In fact, it's here in Belfast.

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And at this stage, diabetes has affected my dad and he can't read, and he can't see very well.

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Obviously my mother and father were invited.

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So they declined and said it was for health reasons.

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And what happened was, on this day, and this is an extraordinary day for Jimmy, this is like...

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He wasn't young. If you think of all the events that led up to that,

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he actually has this day in the book,

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the book launch of Domestic Flight, and I didn't know this, but he had dedicated a poem to my father.

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So what did Jimmy do?

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On the day of the launch, he gets in a taxi and comes to the house here to the parlour.

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And he reads the poem to him, that he's dedicated to him, Over The Bridge.

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And it's...

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..it's the kindness of that. It's the fact that it's his day.

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And this is really hard for me because I'm a writer, selfishly, I wouldn't have done that.

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I haven't done that. I mean, to do that, that major... I mean, it was his book of poetry,

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his first publication and he does that

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and he comes up here to the sitting room and he reads from the poetry.

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Jimmy's really an intellectual.

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There's a Beckett poem,

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I think it was written in French, and then Beckett himself

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translated it into English, and when they did the Beckett...

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anniversary, it was Jimmy's translation,

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which was slightly different from Sam's own, that was chosen.

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So he's not, you know...

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He's a Renaissance man really.

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Other things I've done, of course, are One By One.

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I could talk about that for hours.

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One By One was all about animals.

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And I had a wonderful time doing it and I've met everything.

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I've made friends with a gorilla.

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And my pal the orang-utan.

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Working with Jimmy is a real joy.

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I mean,

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he's a fantastic actor.

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A true professional. I mean, doing scenes and playing the field,

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we had some specifically

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quite serious scenes to do.

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And Jimmy can really switch it on and turn it on.

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It's easy to work with him because he's so accomplished.

0:51:460:51:49

There you are now, Mother.

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It'll be a change of scenery for you.

0:51:530:51:56

I'd be better off in my bed.

0:51:560:51:57

But you've gotta get out of that bedroom some time.

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We'll be able to sit together and watch the telly.

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And I won't have to be up and down the stairs so much.

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RANDOM NOTES PLAY TUNELESSLY, BARKING

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I remember leaving set and saying to people, I've really learnt quite a lot today and that's great.

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You can just watch and learn.

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Genuinely. And with all that wonderful experience,

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he's a fine actor.

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Well I've known Jimmy Ellis as an actor for a long time,

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since I was a very young child from seeing him on TV.

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I did think of him in my very young youth as an uncle of mine.

0:52:460:52:50

He looked like an uncle and spoke like an uncle of mine on television.

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I was delighted when he turned up in Ballykissangel to play my uncle.

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And I'd said I'll introduce myself and I couldn't.

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I bottled because I was too

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afraid because he was such a hero of mine.

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Because Jimmy has always been considered

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as theatrical and acting royalty.

0:53:090:53:12

Then he came and introduced himself to me as if he'd known me all my life. He'd even done his research

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where he knew stuff about my family from talking about me before he got to the set.

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-Goodnight Irene!

-Hiya.

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H-i-i-i...Hiya!

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H-i-i-i...Hiya!

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H-i-i-i-i-i...Hiya!

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Perhaps he said...

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-It must be Latin.

-Jabba, jabba, jabba, jabba, jabba.

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Jabba, jabba.

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'I worked with him for quite a bit after Bally K and recently on

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'a short film that he adapted from a short story called The Devil.

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'And discovered in the course of that that Jimmy had been a French student as I had been,'

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but unlike me, Jimmy had graduated with 100% in his French exams,

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which sickened my happiness cos I didn't do anything like as well.

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But it explains a lot about the man as a writer and poet and a wordsmith

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and about how well he used those skills.

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To be,

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or not to be:

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that is the question.

0:54:440:54:46

Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer

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The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,

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Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,

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And by opposing,

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end them?

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To die.

0:55:030:55:06

To sleep.

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No more.

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And by a sleep to say we end

0:55:110:55:13

The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks

0:55:130:55:17

That flesh is heir to,

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'tis a consummation Devoutly to be wish'd.

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To die, to sleep.

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To sleep,

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perchance to dream.

0:55:310:55:33

Ay, there's the rub.

0:55:350:55:39

For in that sleep of death what dreams may come

0:55:400:55:45

When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,

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Must give us pause.

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There's the respect

0:55:500:55:51

That makes calamity of so long life.

0:55:510:55:55

For who would bear the whips and scorns of time?

0:55:550:55:59

The oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely?

0:55:590:56:02

The pangs of despis'd love,

0:56:020:56:06

the law's delay?

0:56:060:56:08

The insolence of office and the spurns

0:56:080:56:11

That patient merit of the unworthy takes?

0:56:110:56:15

When he himself might his quietus make

0:56:150:56:20

With a bare bodkin?

0:56:290:56:32

Who would fardels bear...

0:56:360:56:39

And so on.

0:56:390:56:40

Anywhere you go where you use the name Jimmy Ellis, is immediately,

0:57:040:57:09

it's like a cosmic pass into any circle or any situation.

0:57:090:57:13

There is such a wealth of goodwill for Jimmy, it's extraordinary.

0:57:130:57:16

I don't know anybody else like him

0:57:160:57:19

who carries that wonderful passport.

0:57:190:57:21

He had a word for everybody, as I say, over here, you know?

0:57:270:57:31

If you walked on the street in Belfast with Jimmy everybody knows him and he stops with every person.

0:57:310:57:35

I think he sort of exudes

0:57:350:57:37

the confidence in, he's never going to not be there for you.

0:57:370:57:42

I tell you a marvellous thing about Jimmy is this,

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he's one of those people that if you see him, your heart gives a lift.

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He's a real life enhancer, Jimmy Ellis.

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And please, God, may he get on for a long time more.

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