Paisley: A Life


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The 8th May, 2007.

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At Stormont in Northern Ireland, a process was under way

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that few believed they would ever witness -

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the end of one of the most brutal and intractable conflicts

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in modern history.

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At the centre of it all was the Reverend Ian Paisley,

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a man who for more than 50 years

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had been at the heart of Ireland's troubled history.

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Demonstrations continually!

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Praise God, we'll fight again.

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For many, Paisley's deafening words of doom

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had helped stoke some of its worst excesses.

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Once and for all, to show the world where Ulster stands.

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But now, Paisley was being feted by the British Prime Minister,

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a former leader of the Provisional IRA and

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the Prime Minister of Ireland,

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a man whose hand he had, until then, refused to shake.

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We saw him as a ranting preacher who was always shouting abuse

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at everything to do with the South

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and everybody else despised him absolutely.

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For years, he'd denounced republicans

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as terrorists and murderers.

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The Troubles were started in Northern Ireland

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by a deliberate republican conspiracy.

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And said that even dealing with them

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was the very worst form of treachery.

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I suppose there was some degree of not knowing

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whether or not we would hit it off sufficiently.

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This was the final chapter

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in one of the most controversial careers in British politics.

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This has always been our stance.

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Against all the odds,

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the man known for decades as Dr No...

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No surrender!

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Never! Never!

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..had just finally said yes.

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At long last, we are starting upon the road...

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Ian won't be the first figure in history

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that has begun identified as one thing

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and ended indentified as something completely different.

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But the truth is that in the end,

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when put in a position of leadership and given the chance to make peace,

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he made it.

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IAN PAISLEY: 'Lord, as this battle goes on,

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'the forces of Popery and the forces of lying and slander rage,

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'and the forces of false ecumenism

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'that would lead us back to bondage.

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'Stand fast in the liberty where Christ has made us free.

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'God save Ulster and God Save the Queen.'

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When Ian Paisley was born in 1926,

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Northern Ireland was the United Kingdom's newest addition.

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At the end of the Irish War of Independence,

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Ireland had been split in two.

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The new entity of Northern Ireland had a Protestant majority

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wedded to the union with Britain and fervently opposed to

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the overwhelmingly Catholic state in the South.

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Paisley grew up in a very rural world

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of deeply held religious beliefs and high church attendance.

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His family were Protestant Unionists of the most zealous kind

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whose lives were defined by the absolute authority of the Bible

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and the need to be born again -

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to be saved from the hellfire of eternal damnation.

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This burning holiness of God...

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'My grandfather got converted at the age of about 16.'

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And he must have been a very powerful speaker,

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because he went home, he cleared out his father's barn in Sixmilecross

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and he started to preach.

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And he converted his own father and mother. He converted his sister.

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He then converted his neighbours.

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Paisley was one of three children.

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His parents were educated but poor

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and on a Pastor's pay, the family often struggled to make ends meet.

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My dad tells the story, whenever he's spoken about it,

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that, you know, his own father said to him,

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"I don't know where the next meal's coming from,

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"but we will survive this, we will get through this."

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And it was a difficult time for the family.

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Paisley followed in his parents' footsteps.

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As a teenager, he preached his first sermon in a tin hut

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and was soon heard in small gospel halls all over Northern Ireland.

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At the age of 20, he was ordained as a minister.

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Paisley's religious beliefs defined his life.

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In the political sphere,

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there are principles that I have imbibed

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and I believe they are principles that are Biblical-based

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and I believe that I have a right to contend for those.

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I don't see how anybody can condemn a man for doing that.

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If he's going to be a two-timer and say one thing to one person

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and another thing to another, well, that will catch up on him.

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I recall he was a physically big man

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and he occasionally would get so passionate,

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he would actually bang on the forms and the form would virtually bounce.

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Yet they were under God's wrath...

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After the prayer meeting was over, we would say to each other

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"Big Ian thinks God's deaf," because Ian used to...he bellowed.

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He has a great voice, a massive physical man and a great voice.

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Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ

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and thou shalt be saved.

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For my father, preaching was a physical act.

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He sweats when he preaches, he punches, he jabs.

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And that created a certain amount of awe for me as a child,

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to watch this man perform.

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Because when I saw others do it, it was pretty poor.

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You know, but when I watched him do it, it was magnificent.

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Whatever he did, Paisley wanted to be in control.

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So in 1951, when he found a Presbyterian congregation

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split by a feud, the 25-year-old persuaded the dissidents

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to break away and set up a new church,

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the Free Presbyterians, with him as their leader.

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If Paisley is known for one aspect

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in terms of the way that he

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prospered both in the church and in politics,

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it was as a splitter and a divider.

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That's how he built the church

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and it's how he also built his political party as well.

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People can say what they like.

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There's talk that I'm a splitter.

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I can't split anything.

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They said that about Christ.

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They said Christ was a divider.

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The Lord Jesus Christ said, "Well, I am.

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He said, "I have not come to send peace on earth, but a sword."

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From his new church, Paisley began to preach a message

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that would remain consistent throughout his life -

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about the evils of Catholicism.

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Romanism has controlled in this land for many centuries.

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And Romanism has bred poverty

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and ignorance and priest-craft and superstition.

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Paisley's brand of Christianity

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harked back to the 16th century Protestant Reformation.

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It meant that throughout his life

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he harboured a particular hatred of the Pope.

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How much I...

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I denounce you as...

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PARLIAMENT AND PAISLEY SHOUT

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Mr Paisley!

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Mr Paisley!

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Mr Paisley, I now exclude you from this House...

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'Show me the Pope in the Bible.

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'Show me the massing priests in the Bible.

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'Show me the confessional box in the Bible.'

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Show me Transubstantiation in the Bible.

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Show me the doctrines of Rome.

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They're not there. They're not in the Bible.

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Next to his faith,

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one of the most important influences in his life was his wife, Eileen.

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They got married in 1956 after a five year courtship.

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He was 30.

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She was the 23-year-old daughter

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of a devout East Belfast Baptist family.

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They had five children.

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My mum met my dad when she was 17 or 18

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and they've been in love ever since.

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Mum knew everything about what Dad was planning on doing

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before anyone else.

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They would have discussed it.

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Let's say grace. Father, we thank thee for these tokens of thy love.

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Bless them to us, for Christ's sake, amen.

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To his closest followers, Paisley was always a prophet.

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And as head of his own church, he drew huge crowds -

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and saved souls - throughout the 1950s and '60s.

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We will stand to sing.

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Let's really sing it with all our hearts. Everyone.

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# Would you be free from your burden of sin?

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# There's power in the blood Power in the blood... #

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Everywhere he looked, Paisley was convinced that

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Protestant Unionism was increasingly under siege,

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from social liberals and modernisers to Catholics and Irish Nationalists.

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Ulster was regarded as almost a sacred entity, almost like the way

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the Jewish would have regarded, or some Jews would regard Israel

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as, you know, the chosen land,

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or the land that was given to them by God.

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Ulster was seen in that light as having been given to us.

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It was the last bastion of Protestantism in Europe.

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PIPE BAND MARCH PLAYS

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Paisley's religious beliefs also defined his politics.

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They drew on an ancient fear forged by centuries of Irish history.

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Protestants had first arrived in large numbers

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in Ulster in the 17th century.

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Bitter historical experience had convinced them that at any time,

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the indigenous Catholic population might rise up and slaughter them.

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'And I believe this,

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'if we do this, our enemies will be confounded.

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'The lying tongues will be silenced.

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'And that Ulster shall remain firm to the very end.'

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It's the same fear that the South African whites had

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against the blacks,

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the same fear that American whites, the Tea Party,

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has against Barack Obama.

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A very deep fear that predated the 1960s

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and Paisley knew that very well and fed off it,

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manipulated it,

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and used it for his own advantage.

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All the slander, all the lying about me will not stop me

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in my campaign in Ulster, to keep Ulster out of the South of Ireland.

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In 1966, tensions in Belfast between Catholic republicans

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and Protestant loyalists reached a new peak.

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Republicans marked the 50th anniversary

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of the Easter Rising against British rule by holding a march.

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Preaching that this was the start of a new Catholic-inspired plot

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to destroy Ulster, orchestrated by a resurgent Irish Republican Army,

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the IRA, Paisley organised a counter march.

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I have already told your folks, I'm not speaking to,

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I don't speak to the press.

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You'll hear me preach at the service and that is all.

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This is the first approach we have made to you.

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No, it isn't. Will you excuse me, sir?

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Sergeant, these men here are...

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'He was involved in very sort of extremist organisations,'

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one in particular called Ulster Protestant Action,

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which campaigned to keep areas Protestant.

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Paisley didn't just denounce Catholics,

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there were Protestants he detested, too.

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Liberals - as he saw them - who were prepared to negotiate

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with the Catholic-dominated Irish Republic.

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In 1966, he set up his own newspaper and used it to attack

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the Northern Irish Unionist Prime Minister, Captain O'Neill.

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Captain O'Neill sold the pass to the Roman Catholic Church.

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'Again, Paisley was making demands and standing up for issues

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'which the Unionist Government was not prepared to do.

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'And why was that?'

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Because there was a weakness within Unionism,

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just as there was a weakness within the Protestant churches

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who were becoming more friendly with the Catholics,

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the Unionists were becoming more friendly with nationalists

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and this was all a sign that the Protestant state of Northern Ireland

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was under attack from within.

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O'Neill was the archetypal member of the ruling class

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that had governed Northern Ireland for decades.

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What is at stake, brethren,

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is little less than the British connection.

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Aristocratic and educated at Eton,

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he was the complete antithesis of Paisley,

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the working class street preacher

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who as a child had experienced severe poverty.

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Can we ask you if you think that

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the Reverend Paisley is a threat to peace in Ulster?

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Well, his activities don't exactly lead to harmony,

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shall we put it that way?

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In order to cement his reputation as a leader of his people,

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and to identify himself with the Protestant heroes of history,

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Paisley appeared to be looking for conflict with the establishment.

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I think there's absolutely no doubt that he set out to provoke

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the police on various occasions to force them to arrest him

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and in the ambition, possibly, of ending up in jail.

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In June 1966, Paisley organised a march

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near a very Catholic area of Belfast.

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It was predictably provocative and ended in widespread rioting.

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The authorities were forced to act, charging him with unlawful assembly.

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Paisley and two of his key acolytes were arrested.

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Well, of course we were found guilty.

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Fined £40 per something like that,

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and bound over to keep the peace two years.

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Well, Dr Paisley, myself and the Rev John Wylie decided

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we'd not accept this binding over.

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We ended up going to jail for three months.

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Paisley spent his three-month imprisonment

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masterminding how best to exploit his new-found martyrdom.

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Until now, he had mostly shunned the press.

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But on his release from prison, he held an impromptu press conference.

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The authorities tried to smuggle me out of this prison

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at this unearthly hour.

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Paisley had already conquered the pulpit and the soap box.

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Now it was the turn of the microphone.

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There never was any violence at our meetings. Never any violence.

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Our people are not a violent people.

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The prison, Crumlin Road Prison,

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is a place that I wouldn't wish my worst enemy to be in.

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Well, Doctor Paisley loved the time in prison.

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We had a thoroughly enjoyable season. He wrote a book.

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It was a thoroughly enjoyable time.

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By 1969, Paisley's congregation had quadrupled in size,

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so he opened a massive new church in Belfast.

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As Ireland's most militant fundamentalist,

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it was finally time for his congregation

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to become a constituency.

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As he considered entering politics,

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another opportunity arose for Paisley to prove his credentials

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as a staunch Protestant Unionist.

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The Northern Ireland Civil Rights Movement had begun a campaign

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of non-violent disobedience, calling for equal rights for Catholics

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in terms of housing, voting, jobs and the police.

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What many saw as progress,

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Paisley denounced as another republican plot.

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The Civil Rights movement... As I said in those days,

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the CRA, just straighten up the C and it forms an I - IRA.

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-You believe that?

-Yes, certainly.

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It was only a front.

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Paisley refused to believe that the Civil Rights movement was

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genuine at all. His line was that this is an IRA plot.

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In the early stages of the Civil Rights movement,

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and for a long time, it was NOT an IRA plot.

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There was no IRA presence within it.

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I'd just like to say that

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Protestants and loyalists of this province

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have demonstrated their willingness today

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to take their stand in defence of their heritage.

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It was Paisley's responsibility for one particularly violent incident

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that has remained controversial ever since.

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On New Year's Day 1969, the Civil Rights protesters set out

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to march from Belfast to Londonderry.

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What happened to them at Burntollet Bridge

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became an iconic moment at the start of Northern Ireland's darkest years.

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It began with a speech made by Paisley the night before

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at a rally in Derry.

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Well, Paisley's presence and confrontations

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and counter-demonstrations always increased tension.

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There was no relaxation

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while Paisley was around or might be about.

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Paisley brought along his close associate, Major Ronald Bunting.

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Journalists were barred from the meeting

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as they addressed the local loyalist faithful together.

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Paisley then departed, leaving Bunting to lead the attack.

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Paisley was a great man for lighting a fuse

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and then scampering off, leaving others to handle the explosion

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and the aftermath of the explosion.

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And of course, Burntollet was a prime example of that.

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A lot of the people on the march - it was a student march, mainly.

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And a lot of people were actually secondary school students.

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They were 15, 16, 17-year-old girls.

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As the marchers approached Burntollet Bridge,

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Paisley's accomplice, Bunting, and his followers were waiting for them.

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They were armed with stones, iron bars and spiked clubs.

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In a well-organised ambush,

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Bunting's mob attacked the unarmed marchers,

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bombarding them with missiles and then charging them

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and badly beating both men and women indiscriminately.

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During the four-day march, more than 200 people were injured,

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many of them seriously.

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I have no doubt that the attackers at Burntollet

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were inspired by Paisley.

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He was an ugly presence on the political scene and played

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what I still regard as a vile role in stoking up sectarianism.

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Any time it looked, and maybe it was an illusion looking back on it,

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but occasionally it would look as if things were settling down.

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Any time that began to happen,

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Paisley was at hand to inject sectarian venom into the situation.

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Paisley's personal responsibility for Ireland's troubled history

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dogged him throughout his life.

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His connections to the men of violence

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often appeared to be very close.

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Two months after the attack at Burntollet Bridge,

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Belfast's water supply was hit by a series of bomb attacks

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carried out by loyalists.

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Some of the perpetrators were later shown

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to be closely connected to Paisley.

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The guy who was charged and convicted of those bombs,

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Sammy Stevenson, was his bodyguard.

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He was certainly, I think, very close to people who were

0:20:030:20:06

involved in violence.

0:20:060:20:07

When Paisley was questioned about it later, that this

0:20:070:20:10

fella was a member of his church and a member of the Ulster Protestant

0:20:100:20:13

Volunteers, of which Ian was the leader,

0:20:130:20:16

he said that he couldn't be held responsible for all the actions

0:20:160:20:19

of all the people within his group.

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But on reflection, I look back and say he should have.

0:20:220:20:25

Then was the time to realise the power of his words

0:20:250:20:28

and the influence he was having over individual people.

0:20:280:20:32

CAR HORN HONKS

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But in terms of political power, Paisley's image as the hard man

0:20:330:20:38

of Protestant Ulster was a real benefit.

0:20:380:20:41

So, when Northern Irish Prime Minister Terence O'Neill

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called a surprise election, Paisley grasped the opportunity to stand

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against him and enter mainstream politics for the first time.

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I am a Protestant minister, sir, and I have always said I would only go

0:20:530:20:56

into politics if the situation and the crisis pushed me into politics,

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and the Bannside electors have pushed me into taking this stand.

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The campaign was brutal, uncompromising and one-sided.

0:21:060:21:11

I'm no friend of Captain O'Neill.

0:21:110:21:12

The sooner he packs his bags and goes to Dublin,

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the better for all of us.

0:21:150:21:16

This is no ordinary election.

0:21:160:21:19

Captain O'Neill represents himself as the Cassius Clay

0:21:190:21:22

of the Unionist Party, the greatest ever Prime Minister of Ulster.

0:21:220:21:25

This, of course, is utter rubbish and nonsense.

0:21:250:21:28

LAUGHTER

0:21:280:21:29

From the beginning of his career,

0:21:310:21:33

Paisley has had only one abiding ambition,

0:21:330:21:38

and that was to be number one, the top dog.

0:21:380:21:41

He brought down O'Neill by alleging that he was selling out traditional

0:21:430:21:47

Unionist values and was associating, fraternising with the enemy.

0:21:470:21:52

O'Neill's campaign to liberalise politics in Northern Ireland

0:21:540:21:58

by encouraging better relations with the Catholic South

0:21:580:22:00

was anathema to Paisley.

0:22:000:22:03

Anyone who showed any signs of wanting to arrive at a

0:22:040:22:09

solution for the whole community was attacked by Paisley as an apostate.

0:22:090:22:16

They were betraying traditional Unionist values.

0:22:160:22:19

our place within the United Kingdom,

0:22:190:22:22

our Protestant religion, all of this was being betrayed.

0:22:220:22:25

And because they were doing that, they were guilty of apostasy.

0:22:250:22:29

Although O'Neill won the election,

0:22:300:22:32

Paisley decimated the Prime Minister's vote.

0:22:320:22:35

So, when O'Neill didn't turn up for the official count,

0:22:350:22:38

it was his opponent who took the cheers of the crowd.

0:22:380:22:42

Paisley was on the march to political office

0:22:420:22:45

and nothing could stop him.

0:22:450:22:46

There are 6,331 true blue Protestants...

0:22:480:22:54

CHEERING

0:22:540:22:55

..who will never bow the knee to the capitulation policy

0:22:550:22:59

of Captain O'Neill.

0:22:590:23:01

APPLAUSE

0:23:010:23:02

GUNSHOTS AND PANICKED SHOUTING

0:23:030:23:05

As Paisley savoured his growing political success,

0:23:060:23:10

tension between the two communities, Catholic and Protestant,

0:23:100:23:14

republican and loyalist, led to violence in the streets.

0:23:140:23:17

Later that summer, in August 1969,

0:23:180:23:21

after the police tried to disperse nationalists protesting

0:23:210:23:24

against the loyalist march in Derry, there was a widespread outbreak

0:23:240:23:29

of serious rioting that lasted for three days.

0:23:290:23:32

You can never reconcile two irreconcilables,

0:23:340:23:37

and as far as we are concerned, Roman Catholics can live here

0:23:370:23:42

and can have their place here, but as far as the hierarchy

0:23:420:23:46

of the church is concerned, until it is prepared to recognise

0:23:460:23:50

the constitution of this country,

0:23:500:23:52

then we are going to have a difficult position.

0:23:520:23:55

The local police were unable to stop the fighting,

0:23:580:24:01

and so, for the first time, British troops were deployed

0:24:010:24:05

on the streets of Northern Ireland.

0:24:050:24:07

ANGRY AND PANICKED SHOUTING

0:24:080:24:10

The government's apparent inability to stop the violence

0:24:100:24:13

boosted Paisley's popularity.

0:24:130:24:16

Ian Richard Kyle Paisley...

0:24:170:24:19

24,130.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:24:220:24:24

I accordingly declare...

0:24:270:24:29

In April 1970, Paisley's electoral victory finally came.

0:24:300:24:35

CHEERING

0:24:350:24:36

He stood out from the rest because he was a conviction-led politician.

0:24:390:24:43

He wasn't one of the professional politicians who joined politics

0:24:430:24:47

to get a job.

0:24:470:24:49

He was there and he didn't care less.

0:24:490:24:51

Paisley the preacher and street demagogue

0:24:510:24:54

was now Paisley the elected politician.

0:24:540:24:57

Later that same year, he stood for election to the House of Commons

0:24:570:25:01

and won again.

0:25:010:25:03

He remained MP for North Antrim for the next 40 years.

0:25:030:25:07

He even stood for the European Parliament

0:25:070:25:09

and won another dramatic victory.

0:25:090:25:13

Paisley was at all times fired by his ambition to run,

0:25:130:25:19

or to be seen to run, Northern Ireland.

0:25:190:25:23

He was a master of opportunism.

0:25:230:25:26

And of course, standing for Europe,

0:25:260:25:28

despite what he had said about it in the past, was an opportunity which

0:25:280:25:32

he beat the drum about throughout his entire subsequent career,

0:25:320:25:36

was that, "I have more votes than anybody else,

0:25:360:25:40

"I am the most popular man. I am the great I am."

0:25:400:25:45

Paisley now had his own church, his own newspaper

0:25:470:25:50

and even his own new political party,

0:25:500:25:53

the DUP - Democratic Unionist Party - set up in 1971.

0:25:530:25:59

And in each of them,

0:25:590:26:00

no-one was under any illusion as to who was the boss.

0:26:000:26:03

I'm working as hard as I can...

0:26:050:26:07

to get proper security into Northern Ireland.

0:26:070:26:10

If I have your vote, you can help me to do that.

0:26:100:26:12

-How are you, sir? How are you doing?

-Good...

0:26:120:26:16

I was involved in drawing up the rules and constitution of the party

0:26:160:26:20

and it was at that moment that you realised just how

0:26:200:26:24

dominant Paisley was. We would have spent hours wrangling over

0:26:240:26:27

some new rule or article in the constitution and he would

0:26:270:26:30

simply overthrow it and say, "I'm not having that."

0:26:300:26:33

Get that one vote in...

0:26:330:26:34

-Oh, aye.

-The last shall be first, it's scriptural.

0:26:340:26:38

So, although it called itself the Democratic Party

0:26:380:26:40

it was totally dominated by Ian Paisley.

0:26:400:26:44

-TANNOY:

-Vote Paisley - number one.

0:26:440:26:47

But Paisley's work as a constituency MP showed another, to some surprising,

0:26:470:26:52

side of his character - the tireless

0:26:520:26:55

champion of his constituents, from both sides of the sectarian divide.

0:26:550:27:00

Nice to see you...

0:27:000:27:01

Whenever he became a Member of Parliament, North Antrim had

0:27:010:27:04

the worst public sanitation issues,

0:27:040:27:07

fire problems, all sorts of stuff.

0:27:070:27:10

My dad changed all that. He worked darn hard for people.

0:27:100:27:13

He got things changed.

0:27:130:27:14

He passionately cared for the people,

0:27:140:27:17

and something he told me as a politician - "You're their servant.

0:27:170:27:20

"Get out there and serve."

0:27:200:27:21

EXPLOSION

0:27:210:27:23

What happened just then?

0:27:250:27:27

The brutal tit-for-tat violence between the two warring communities,

0:27:270:27:31

and also the British Army, now began to spiral out of control.

0:27:310:27:36

Starting with Bloody Sunday,

0:27:360:27:38

1972 was the worst year in Northern Ireland's troubled history.

0:27:380:27:42

There were almost 1,500 bombings and nearly 500 deaths.

0:27:420:27:48

CHILDREN'S CHORAL SINGING

0:27:480:27:50

Paisley's role in stoking those sectarian tensions has always

0:27:530:27:57

been hotly debated.

0:27:570:28:00

I never started the trouble at all.

0:28:000:28:02

The Troubles were started in Northern Ireland by a deliberate

0:28:020:28:05

republican conspiracy.

0:28:050:28:06

..Don't just interrupt, you have asked a question.

0:28:100:28:13

Let me tell you it was a republican conspiracy that

0:28:130:28:15

brought about what has taken place.

0:28:150:28:17

The IRA and the effect of their terrorism -

0:28:240:28:28

that was fodder for him,

0:28:280:28:32

that was the thing that fired up his whole political career,

0:28:320:28:36

opposition to IRA violence which was evidence of a

0:28:360:28:41

great nationalist plot to subsume Northern Ireland within a united Ireland.

0:28:410:28:45

As a front-line politician in Northern Ireland's bitterly-divided society,

0:28:480:28:53

Paisley and his family lived under constant threat.

0:28:530:28:57

Ever since I can remember, my father's had to carry

0:28:580:29:01

a gun for his own protection.

0:29:010:29:03

Our house has always been completely bullet-proofed,

0:29:030:29:06

bomb-proofed,

0:29:060:29:08

been a secure room in it, alarmed to police stations.

0:29:080:29:12

There's always been an armed guard. It was like a fortress.

0:29:120:29:15

And it's only now when you look back on it, if I had

0:29:150:29:17

my kids now and if they had to go through it,

0:29:170:29:19

I would hate it for them.

0:29:190:29:20

By March 1972, the local authorities had lost control of the situation.

0:29:220:29:27

The local parliament was closed

0:29:270:29:30

and direct rule was imposed from Westminster.

0:29:300:29:33

Would you be fool enough to say that this Constitution Act is

0:29:330:29:36

widely accepted in this community when it took 40 armoured cars

0:29:360:29:40

and 1,000 army men and police to do what they did today?

0:29:400:29:46

What are you doing with that man?!

0:29:460:29:47

CLAMOUR

0:29:470:29:50

But as a succession of Westminster politicians

0:29:510:29:54

and civil servants were to discover, finding solutions would be

0:29:540:29:58

an impossible task without the agreement of Ian Paisley.

0:29:580:30:02

I suppose my impression of Dr Paisley before I ever

0:30:030:30:06

got to know him was that he was a bigot...

0:30:060:30:09

a bit of a bully, a loudmouth,

0:30:090:30:11

and not really very adept at defending the real

0:30:110:30:14

interests of the people of Northern Ireland

0:30:140:30:16

which surely lay in jobs, housing

0:30:160:30:19

and welfare, rather than in banging on about

0:30:190:30:22

prejudicial anti-Catholic views?

0:30:220:30:25

If you are not content with Ulster,

0:30:250:30:27

if you don't like us,

0:30:270:30:30

then go to the south of Ireland and stay there!

0:30:300:30:34

CHEERING

0:30:340:30:36

LOYALIST BAND PLAYS

0:30:390:30:41

During the 1970s and '80s,

0:30:430:30:45

successive British Prime Ministers attempted

0:30:450:30:48

to broker a deal between the various warring parties in Northern Ireland.

0:30:480:30:52

In 1973, it was the turn of Edward Heath's government

0:30:520:30:56

when he signed the Sunningdale Agreement with the Irish Republic.

0:30:560:31:00

The agreement meant Unionists would share power with moderate

0:31:000:31:04

constitutional nationalists.

0:31:040:31:06

Paisley opposed it at every turn.

0:31:060:31:09

No surrender!

0:31:090:31:10

CHEERING

0:31:100:31:12

Dr Paisley was seen as an obstacle in Whitehall amongst civil servants.

0:31:120:31:17

An obstacle to ever making any progress in defeating the IRA

0:31:170:31:21

and stabilising the situation in Northern Ireland.

0:31:210:31:24

CHEERING

0:31:240:31:26

Paisley allied himself with loyalist paramilitaries to enforce

0:31:260:31:29

a general strike that brought down the power-sharing assembly

0:31:290:31:33

and ended the Sunningdale Agreement.

0:31:330:31:36

It appeared that as long as HE said no, the voters said yes.

0:31:360:31:41

CHEERING

0:31:410:31:44

My father, when he was public, in the public persona,

0:31:440:31:46

had to be tough, had to be strong, he had to be determined.

0:31:460:31:50

He had to be willing to say no, and strong enough to mean no,

0:31:500:31:54

and strong enough to deliver a no to get the right result at the end.

0:31:540:31:59

In the house he was himself and when the door closed, he was our dad.

0:31:590:32:04

I always taught my children... I always said to them,

0:32:040:32:08

"Look, you are my kith and kin.

0:32:080:32:10

"But you are yourself, you have entirely a personality that is yours.

0:32:100:32:15

We do not see eye-to-eye on everything.

0:32:150:32:19

You wouldn't be a...

0:32:190:32:20

It's not zombies we're rearing, it's Paisleys.

0:32:200:32:22

CHUCKLING: And they have their own nature.

0:32:220:32:25

Ten years passed before another serious attempt at peace was made.

0:32:280:32:34

Then it was Mrs Thatcher's turn - a Conservative

0:32:340:32:37

and staunch Unionist and an outspoken opponent of republicanism.

0:32:370:32:42

One of her closest political aides, Airey Neave,

0:32:420:32:45

had been murdered in a terrorist bomb

0:32:450:32:47

and she herself was almost blown up in Brighton by the IRA.

0:32:470:32:50

SIREN WAILS

0:32:500:32:51

To everyone else, Mrs Thatcher appeared to be Paisley's natural ally.

0:32:510:32:56

But when, in 1985,

0:32:560:32:58

she tried to break the deadlock in Northern Ireland by

0:32:580:33:01

signing the Anglo-Irish Agreement, giving the South a limited say

0:33:010:33:05

in the affairs of the North, Paisley denounced her as a traitor.

0:33:050:33:09

Let Mrs Thatcher get the message -

0:33:100:33:14

it will be over our dead bodies...!

0:33:140:33:17

CHEERING

0:33:170:33:19

He galvanised Unionism's denunciation of the agreement with a speech

0:33:190:33:23

that rang out across Northern Ireland, Britain and the world.

0:33:230:33:27

We say never!

0:33:280:33:31

Never!

0:33:310:33:32

Never!

0:33:320:33:34

Never.

0:33:340:33:35

The betrayal by Margaret Thatcher of the Unionist community in

0:33:360:33:40

Northern Ireland with the Anglo-Irish Agreement...

0:33:400:33:43

and, again, Ian's ability

0:33:430:33:46

to articulate the case of those who were betrayed, I think, put him

0:33:460:33:50

right at the front and centre of the leadership of that campaign.

0:33:500:33:55

Paisley's fury at Mrs Thatcher extended to her

0:33:570:33:59

Northern Ireland Secretary, Tom King.

0:33:590:34:02

Every time he came to Belfast, he was put under siege.

0:34:020:34:05

I remember the noise outside, you could hear the people

0:34:050:34:08

hammering on the gates and there was very strong feeling at that time.

0:34:080:34:12

SHOUTING

0:34:120:34:13

Ian Paisley came

0:34:130:34:15

and led a squad up the back stairs and was hammering on the doors.

0:34:150:34:19

I don't believe it's sane and prudent for Mr King to be

0:34:190:34:22

seen anywhere in Northern Ireland.

0:34:220:34:24

And a lot of distinguished visitors sitting looking

0:34:240:34:27

terrified at this hammering going on, because I was in the room.

0:34:270:34:31

He has committed the greatest possible crime, of treason...

0:34:330:34:36

-Yes!

-And the more he's seen, the more he is inciting people.

0:34:360:34:39

Any reaction to that incitement is his business.

0:34:390:34:42

On his head!

0:34:420:34:44

They were determined to make my life as unpleasant as possible.

0:34:440:34:47

Did you see Tom King squealing on the television,

0:34:470:34:52

squealing on the radio?!

0:34:520:34:55

Paisley reserved his most vicious personal attacks

0:34:550:34:58

for Mrs Thatcher herself.

0:34:580:35:01

Despite her clear opposition to the IRA, Paisley accused

0:35:010:35:04

her of being in league with republicans.

0:35:040:35:06

You know, some of the things which Dr Paisley

0:35:060:35:09

said about Margaret Thatcher were

0:35:090:35:11

so absurd as to be, really, beyond the pale.

0:35:110:35:13

For somebody, who only a year earlier, had been

0:35:130:35:16

attacked by the IRA, nearly killed by the IRA.

0:35:160:35:19

I mean, this was just so absurd.

0:35:190:35:21

It gave Northern Ireland a bad reputation, not just

0:35:210:35:24

with British public opinion, but more widely.

0:35:240:35:27

To be honest, she rather gave up on him in the end.

0:35:270:35:29

You are the blood-soaked ally of the IRA as long as you

0:35:310:35:35

go on saying no to our conditions.

0:35:350:35:40

No surrender!

0:35:400:35:42

CHEERING

0:35:420:35:45

Paisley always styled himself as the enemy of the IRA.

0:35:450:35:49

His was the side of law and order, theirs of terrorism and murder.

0:35:490:35:54

But his apparent links to loyalist terrorists

0:35:540:35:56

continually embarrassed him throughout his political career.

0:35:560:36:00

In November 1986, Paisley called his closest followers

0:36:000:36:04

to a closed meeting to celebrate the founding of a new organisation

0:36:040:36:08

called Ulster Resistance.

0:36:080:36:10

It pledged to use all means to defeat

0:36:120:36:14

Mrs Thatcher's Anglo-Irish Agreement.

0:36:140:36:17

The meeting was filmed by a local cameraman.

0:36:170:36:20

We are not playing a game of bluff!

0:36:220:36:26

Mrs Thatcher, we mean business!

0:36:260:36:30

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:36:300:36:34

I intend to give this movement of Ulster Resistance

0:36:410:36:45

my undivided support.

0:36:450:36:48

I will give it whatever political cover it needs.

0:36:480:36:52

At the rally, leaflets were handed out stating

0:36:540:36:57

Ulster Resistance's intent to take direct action as and when required

0:36:570:37:02

to defeat Mrs Thatcher's Anglo-Irish Agreement.

0:37:020:37:06

We had the biggest, two years in a row, the biggest political rally

0:37:060:37:10

that there has been in the United Kingdom.

0:37:100:37:13

Ulster Resistance was really formed to say to the government,

0:37:130:37:17

"We will not take this lying down."

0:37:170:37:20

Paisley held eight more Ulster Resistance rallies all over

0:37:210:37:25

Northern Ireland.

0:37:250:37:26

To the outside world, he was increasingly

0:37:260:37:29

looking like a general with his own paramilitary army.

0:37:290:37:32

I want to walk publically

0:37:320:37:35

and tell the world that Dublin will never rule us!

0:37:350:37:40

Three years later,

0:37:460:37:47

Paisley appeared to have completely changed his tune when, during an

0:37:470:37:52

election campaign, he was confronted by journalists

0:37:520:37:55

about a loyalist arms scandal connecting illegal weapons

0:37:550:37:59

to Ulster Resistance.

0:37:590:38:00

I didn't set up the Ulster Resistance. That's untrue.

0:38:000:38:05

Er, the Ulster Resistance was set up by the leadership

0:38:050:38:07

-of Ulster Resistance.

-But you associated...

-What I said...

0:38:070:38:10

Over the previous 18 months, the Northern Irish police had uncovered

0:38:100:38:14

several large caches of illegal weapons, some of which

0:38:140:38:17

were apparently intended for use by Ulster Resistance.

0:38:170:38:21

Paisley's links with the organisation

0:38:210:38:23

were now highly embarrassing.

0:38:230:38:25

You have already heard my statement

0:38:250:38:28

and we have nothing further to say to it.

0:38:280:38:30

You needn't repeat or say anything more. That's all you're saying.

0:38:300:38:33

-REPORTER:

-I think we do need to know more.

0:38:330:38:35

That's all right, you go with your press.

0:38:350:38:37

You go with your press and do exactly what you like.

0:38:370:38:40

I have already made the statement.

0:38:400:38:43

But it wasn't just his connections to Ulster Resistance that

0:38:430:38:46

were to cause Ian Paisley a measure of political embarrassment.

0:38:460:38:49

Whether he liked it or not,

0:38:490:38:51

leading men of violence often cited him as an inspiration.

0:38:510:38:55

There was a survey done in Long Kesh one time, in the Maze Prison,

0:38:550:38:59

when many young loyalist prisoners were asked about what was

0:38:590:39:04

one of the main influences that put them behind bars

0:39:040:39:07

and they said it was Paisley's speeches.

0:39:070:39:10

My relationship with the paramilitaries have always been

0:39:100:39:14

that I have opposed killing,

0:39:140:39:19

always, and no matter who comes along

0:39:190:39:25

they can never find out...

0:39:250:39:26

What the government would like to do, even though they're in

0:39:260:39:29

with the paramilitaries themselves, and even although they put

0:39:290:39:32

them in government, they'd like to find somewhere in Paisley's past,

0:39:320:39:36

he was associated.

0:39:360:39:38

Many paramilitaries became disillusioned with

0:39:390:39:42

Ian Paisley over his increasingly ambiguous attitude towards them.

0:39:420:39:46

While he appeared to support them when it suited his political aims,

0:39:460:39:50

whenever there were acts of violence he was one of the first

0:39:500:39:53

to disown them.

0:39:530:39:55

My hands are clean on that issue, because I'm a Christian,

0:39:550:39:59

I don't believe in murder.

0:39:590:40:01

In fact, my party put up all over Northern Ireland,

0:40:010:40:05

"Thou shalt not kill" posters, which were torn down

0:40:050:40:08

by the paramilitaries.

0:40:080:40:09

I remember him doing an interview where he said,

0:40:090:40:12

"If anybody attacks our people, we will kill them."

0:40:120:40:15

He didn't say, "We will defend our people," or, "We will chase them."

0:40:150:40:19

He says, "We will kill them."

0:40:190:40:21

If an IRA man comes to a Protestant home and my men are there,

0:40:210:40:27

they will kill that IRA man. Yes, sir.

0:40:270:40:30

And when people did kill them, he disowned them.

0:40:300:40:33

The loyalist paramilitaries eventually became

0:40:350:40:38

so fed up with Paisley that they coined a new nickname for him -

0:40:380:40:42

the Grand Old Duke of York.

0:40:420:40:44

We'd been led to the top of the hill so many times by Ian Paisley

0:40:440:40:48

and he never came with us. He always backed off. He always kept himself

0:40:480:40:52

totally legal and didn't want to know, and I think from that

0:40:520:40:55

point of view, people were sick of it.

0:40:550:40:58

In Northern Ireland, there have been more clashes between police

0:40:580:41:01

and Protestants.

0:41:010:41:02

Northern Ireland's brutal conflict had been a regular feature

0:41:050:41:08

of British news bulletins for almost 30 years.

0:41:080:41:12

The peace process was at a stalemate with the IRA cease-fire

0:41:120:41:15

of 1994 having broken down.

0:41:150:41:18

In 1997, a Labour government won a landslide election in Britain.

0:41:180:41:23

The new Prime Minister was determined to give peace

0:41:230:41:26

another chance.

0:41:260:41:27

At the beginning, when I first came to office

0:41:270:41:30

and people frankly thought Northern Ireland was a pretty hopeless case,

0:41:300:41:33

and Ian Paisley at that time, you know, the view was that he would

0:41:330:41:37

never be the person who would actually do the peace deal.

0:41:370:41:39

A year after Blair's election victory, another attempt at peace,

0:41:410:41:45

the Good Friday Agreement, was signed in Belfast between the

0:41:450:41:48

British and Irish governments and the majority of Northern Ireland's

0:41:480:41:51

political parties, including Sinn Fein, the IRA's political wing.

0:41:510:41:57

It was another attempt at power sharing between Catholics

0:41:570:42:00

and Protestants.

0:42:000:42:02

Yet again, Paisley refused to have anything to do with it.

0:42:020:42:06

They should be scrapped.

0:42:060:42:07

The whole progress, programme should be scrapped.

0:42:070:42:12

After decades of campaigning against any peace deal

0:42:130:42:16

with the Irish Government or Sinn Fein,

0:42:160:42:18

to outsiders, Ian Paisley appeared to be a relic of the past.

0:42:180:42:23

And as long as Ian Paisley is around there will be no surrender!

0:42:230:42:29

Thank you.

0:42:290:42:30

When a majority of people in Northern Ireland voted to support

0:42:340:42:37

the new agreement, Paisley found himself speaking for those

0:42:370:42:41

who did not - Unionists who were deeply uneasy that despite

0:42:410:42:45

the peace deal, the IRA was still armed.

0:42:450:42:48

Paisley attacked the Good Friday Agreement at every opportunity,

0:42:500:42:54

and especially those Unionist leaders who had signed it.

0:42:540:42:58

Here is Mr Trimble's paper to destroy the union.

0:42:590:43:04

To destroy the union.

0:43:040:43:06

In 1988, he said he was prepared to break the union.

0:43:060:43:13

And he has had his approval.

0:43:130:43:15

That's your own document - What Choice For Ulster? by David Trimble.

0:43:150:43:20

I think the DUP were being disingenuous at this time,

0:43:200:43:23

that the DUP party as a whole were attacking the agreement tactically.

0:43:230:43:28

Although there were denouncing it,

0:43:280:43:30

in fact, all they wanted to do was use that

0:43:300:43:33

as a means for weakening the Ulster Unionists

0:43:330:43:35

so that they could then replace Ulster Unionism

0:43:350:43:38

as the majority party within Unionism and then from that basis,

0:43:380:43:42

they intended to do a deal.

0:43:420:43:44

Paisley now set out to destroy his main rival

0:43:450:43:49

and become the top dog in Northern Irish politics.

0:43:490:43:53

At every turn, he accused Trimble of being a traitor to Unionism.

0:43:530:43:57

What was more annoying was the

0:43:570:43:59

way people would be organised to dog my steps and to abuse me publicly.

0:43:590:44:06

CROWD SHOUTS AND JEERS

0:44:060:44:09

'They'd adopted the same tactics against O'Neill and others,

0:44:110:44:14

'and I knew it was being done in hope that,

0:44:140:44:18

'I would then get so fed up with it that I would give up.'

0:44:180:44:21

Paisley pulverised Unionism

0:44:210:44:24

and the Ulster Unionist Party, which he totally detested.

0:44:240:44:29

Trimble stood as an obstacle to Paisley's ultimate objective,

0:44:290:44:32

which was to get to the top of the heap.

0:44:320:44:34

By June 2001,

0:44:370:44:38

it was clear that the political landscape in Northern Ireland was

0:44:380:44:42

changing, and Ian Paisley's moment of real power was approaching.

0:44:420:44:46

Tony Blair was in despair at the outcome of this election.

0:44:470:44:51

He said to me, "Martin, Ian Paisley won't share power with you."

0:44:510:44:55

And I said, "Well, I don't agree with you.

0:44:550:44:58

"I think we can make it happen.

0:44:580:45:00

"It may take a year or two to do it, but I believe we can do it."

0:45:000:45:03

The leaders of Britain and Ireland now began to court Paisley and,

0:45:040:45:08

to keen-eyed insiders, it seemed as if he was beginning to soften.

0:45:080:45:13

The question was, would he now do what he had always

0:45:130:45:16

denounced as a betrayal and make a deal with republicans?

0:45:160:45:20

One of the interesting things about Ian Paisley was that,

0:45:200:45:23

I mean, he was really an outsider,

0:45:230:45:25

he was fighting against the Unionist establishment,

0:45:250:45:28

fighting against the British Government,

0:45:280:45:30

fighting obviously against Sinn Fein and republicanism.

0:45:300:45:34

'Once he then became in a position where he was responsible,

0:45:340:45:38

'then I think that altered his perspective.'

0:45:380:45:42

'I think we can't understand the man, unless we characterise his'

0:45:420:45:47

career as a constant struggle within himself between principle and power.

0:45:470:45:52

'Time and again he has to decide,

0:45:520:45:53

' "Am I staying with the principle,

0:45:530:45:56

' "or am I following the road to power?" '

0:45:560:45:58

And time and again in his career, he decides for power.

0:45:580:46:02

In September 2004,

0:46:020:46:04

Tony Blair called all the interested parties involved in the

0:46:040:46:07

Northern Ireland peace process to

0:46:070:46:09

intensive talks at Leeds Castle in Kent,

0:46:090:46:12

including former implacable enemies - the DUP and Sinn Fein.

0:46:120:46:17

Ian Paisley brought a large delegation,

0:46:180:46:21

including his deputy Peter Robinson.

0:46:210:46:24

It was at Leeds Castle that Peter Robinson took me aside and said,

0:46:240:46:28

"If you're going to get somewhere here,

0:46:280:46:30

"the Prime Minister is going to have to cultivate Ian Paisley,

0:46:300:46:33

"get to know him, establish a relationship with him."

0:46:330:46:36

So Tony Blair went to great lengths to establish this relationship.

0:46:360:46:39

But when the talks began, it was clear to everyone that

0:46:390:46:43

Paisley was gravely ill.

0:46:430:46:45

Peace in Ireland was now hanging on the health of a 78-year-old man.

0:46:450:46:50

I have my statement.

0:46:500:46:53

At the time, he and his party wanted to play his illness down,

0:46:530:46:57

in case it was perceived as a sign of weakness.

0:46:570:47:00

Many now believe he came close to death.

0:47:000:47:03

Ian Paisley said this himself to us at one stage.

0:47:040:47:06

After he had this near-death experience - as he put it,

0:47:060:47:09

having nearly met his maker, he actually decided

0:47:090:47:11

he wanted not to be Dr No, but to be Dr Yes before he died.

0:47:110:47:14

He had made a fundamental decision that he wanted to be

0:47:140:47:17

part of the solution having, at the beginning, been part of the problem.

0:47:170:47:21

For the next three years,

0:47:210:47:22

all sides were locked in a continual round of talks.

0:47:220:47:26

They flowed back and forth as the details were painstakingly thrashed

0:47:260:47:30

out and continuing republican activity threatened to derail them.

0:47:300:47:34

At the same time,

0:47:360:47:37

Ian Paisley made several private visits to Downing Street to meet

0:47:370:47:41

Tony Blair face-to-face, without any of his colleagues - alone.

0:47:410:47:46

Well, I found him a fascinating personality

0:47:460:47:48

and, you know, we shared a strong religious belief.

0:47:480:47:53

A lot of our conversations would be about...

0:47:530:47:55

..faith, actually, as much as about the politics of the situation.

0:47:560:48:01

I remember him once asking me,

0:48:010:48:03

"What is that God would have me do in this situation?"

0:48:030:48:07

What would be his purpose?

0:48:070:48:09

And I was very reluctant to answer that really, cos I thought

0:48:090:48:12

that should be between him and his maker, as it were.

0:48:120:48:16

I think he got to Blair, I think he got under Blair's skin.

0:48:180:48:21

And of course people say, "Oh, people exploited Paisley."

0:48:210:48:24

I don't know. I think when you look at the ultimate results

0:48:240:48:26

and weigh them up, final analysis, I think my dad was pretty

0:48:260:48:31

good at exploiting others to achieve what he needed to achieve.

0:48:310:48:35

To everyone concerned, it was increasingly obvious that

0:48:350:48:38

Ian Paisley had changed his traditional uncompromising stance.

0:48:380:48:42

He was even now talking to leading Catholics.

0:48:420:48:45

Was the prospect for him of leading

0:48:470:48:49

a new Northern Ireland just too tempting?

0:48:490:48:52

They had always seen him as an outsider, and therefore,

0:48:540:48:57

they hadn't gone through the mindset to say,

0:48:570:48:59

"He's actually top-dog in Unionist circles."

0:48:590:49:03

"He is somebody who has got to be treated

0:49:030:49:06

"as the putative first minister - the first minister designate."

0:49:060:49:11

He'd always chuckle and say, "No, no, no, no," but it was quite

0:49:110:49:15

clear that he was thinking that there might be that possibility.

0:49:150:49:19

'There is such a thing as forgiveness, you know.

0:49:200:49:25

'And forgiveness rests upon a rejection of your old ways,

0:49:250:49:30

'and there's no doubt about it that Sinn Fein have done that.

0:49:300:49:36

'I have to be honest,

0:49:360:49:38

'if people repent and turn from their ways and show their repentance

0:49:380:49:41

'by not going back to the old paths, then I've got to honour them.'

0:49:410:49:45

We had one final meeting with the DUP where the whole thing

0:49:450:49:48

looked like it was going to collapse -

0:49:480:49:50

they demanded more time and we didn't think Sinn Fein or the

0:49:500:49:53

Irish Government would give more time.

0:49:530:49:55

And then we persuaded Ian Paisley that the only thing that would

0:49:550:49:59

save this would be if he would meet Gerry Adams himself.

0:49:590:50:02

And he said, "I'll think about it," and he called us

0:50:020:50:04

from Heathrow on the way back to Belfast and said, "OK, I'll do it."

0:50:040:50:08

An agreement was finally reached in March 2007.

0:50:130:50:17

At the age of 80, Paisley had done what would have been

0:50:170:50:20

unthinkable five or ten years previously,

0:50:200:50:22

let alone at the beginning of his political career

0:50:220:50:25

when he regularly preached against a Catholic republican conspiracy.

0:50:250:50:29

He was now sitting down with the people he had previously

0:50:320:50:35

branded as terrorists and murderers.

0:50:350:50:38

For some of his closest followers, this was a step too far.

0:50:400:50:43

It was a shock that I can hardly describe

0:50:440:50:49

and we were just overcome by grief.

0:50:490:50:52

I'm sure the British Government, at the end of the day,

0:50:530:50:56

had a psychological profile of the man -

0:50:560:50:58

they knew what he wanted and in the end they could capture him

0:50:580:51:02

by luring him in, by giving him what he wanted.

0:51:020:51:05

So really that was the sort of breakthrough moment

0:51:050:51:07

and that was the moment, of course, the TV chose to write the obituary

0:51:070:51:10

of the Troubles, that's when they decided the thing was finally over,

0:51:100:51:13

cos the whole negotiation had been conducted without Paisley or Adams

0:51:130:51:16

or Paisley and McGuiness actually meeting.

0:51:160:51:19

So this was a really sort of remarkable moment.

0:51:190:51:21

But in return for becoming First Minister

0:51:210:51:24

of a new Northern Ireland devolved government,

0:51:240:51:26

Ian Paisley would have to share power with his Deputy,

0:51:260:51:30

Martin McGuinness, a former leader of the IRA and convicted terrorist.

0:51:300:51:35

To the surprise of many,

0:51:350:51:36

the former bitter enemies appeared to get on rather well.

0:51:360:51:41

The local press named them "The Chuckle Brothers".

0:51:410:51:44

No change, not an inch and no surrender.

0:51:440:51:48

THEY LAUGH

0:51:480:51:49

I think that people were very pleased to know that Ian Paisley

0:51:490:51:54

and I were capable of having a smile or a laugh together

0:51:540:51:58

and that indicated to the community as a whole that things

0:51:580:52:01

had definitely changed. I mean, people would have thought

0:52:010:52:04

we would have been incapable of having a good, cordial,

0:52:040:52:09

even friendly relationship. But I think we confounded all of them.

0:52:090:52:13

I remember hearing an interview in which an interviewer said to him

0:52:130:52:17

all the things that he had said about Martin McGuinness

0:52:170:52:20

and what he done and what he was involved in and really, you know,

0:52:200:52:24

painted the black picture.

0:52:240:52:26

"And here you are about to power-share with him.

0:52:260:52:29

"Do you believe that's the will of God?"

0:52:290:52:31

And I'll never forget Dr Paisley's response.

0:52:310:52:36

He said, "I hope so."

0:52:360:52:40

And I knew from that one little statement that even he could not say,

0:52:430:52:49

"I believe this is the will of God."

0:52:490:52:52

For the first time in his life,

0:52:530:52:55

Ian Paisley's flock did not follow where he led.

0:52:550:52:59

The man who had made a career out of shaming apostates

0:52:590:53:02

and turncoats was now himself accused of betrayal.

0:53:020:53:07

The Free Presbyterian Church, which he had founded and led

0:53:070:53:11

for over five decades, rejected him.

0:53:110:53:15

The personal pain it caused him and his wife Eileen was made clear

0:53:150:53:19

in the last major television interviews they gave.

0:53:190:53:23

Well, it was hurtful that that was the way they thought

0:53:230:53:27

they would treat us

0:53:270:53:29

and they did that.

0:53:290:53:31

And they will have to answer to the people

0:53:310:53:36

and they will also have to answer to God at the end of the day.

0:53:360:53:41

Our hearts were all broken for Ian,

0:53:410:53:44

the children and myself as well

0:53:440:53:50

and I felt he had been deeply wounded in the house of his friends

0:53:500:53:55

and I just felt that it was really iniquitous of them

0:53:550:54:00

and a really dreadful, hurtful,

0:54:000:54:03

nasty, ungodly, unchristian thing to do.

0:54:030:54:07

In politics, too, there now seemed to be enemies within.

0:54:070:54:11

The Democratic Unionist Party had allowed their iconic leader

0:54:110:54:14

to bring them into government,

0:54:140:54:16

trading on his unrivalled authority within Unionism to deliver a deal.

0:54:160:54:20

But a year after power-sharing was achieved, in 2008,

0:54:200:54:24

senior party members felt it was time for him to step down.

0:54:240:54:28

Paisley and his family felt betrayed.

0:54:280:54:32

In his final interview, he referred to his erstwhile friend

0:54:320:54:35

and successor, Peter Robinson, using Biblical language.

0:54:350:54:39

For once we're seeing the true nature of the beast,

0:54:400:54:45

that there was a beast here who was prepared to go forward...

0:54:450:54:51

to the destruction of the party.

0:54:510:54:54

Scriptures tell us that friends, people,

0:54:540:54:59

so-called friends are probably secret enemies.

0:54:590:55:04

Well, I think they assassinated him

0:55:040:55:06

and by their words and by their deeds

0:55:060:55:11

and by the way they treated him and I think they treated him shamefully.

0:55:110:55:16

Ian Paisley was a dominant force in British politics

0:55:180:55:21

for more than half a century.

0:55:210:55:24

But his funeral was private, conducted at his home

0:55:240:55:27

and attended only by close family.

0:55:270:55:30

It would be the final contrast in an unpredictable life story.

0:55:300:55:35

For many, the biggest contrast of all was that one man

0:55:350:55:40

could have done so much to help cause and conclude a conflict.

0:55:400:55:45

Paisley shaped Northern Ireland enormously

0:55:450:55:48

over the last 40, 50 years.

0:55:480:55:50

Without Paisley, Northern Ireland would be a very different place.

0:55:500:55:53

It might well have been a more peaceful place.

0:55:530:55:56

I think Ian Paisley did the deal in the end, because he genuinely

0:55:580:56:00

believed that if the IRA were prepared to come to a definitive end

0:56:000:56:05

to their use of violence as a tactic in the struggle, then he had to

0:56:050:56:09

respond that that was his duty, that was the will of the people.

0:56:090:56:14

Genuinely within himself, he felt that his lifelong opponents

0:56:140:56:20

had crossed the Rubicon and therefore he should cross it, too.

0:56:200:56:24

Because Captain O'Neill...

0:56:240:56:27

'I believe that the line I took was a consistent Unionist line.

0:56:270:56:31

'I believe that I never hid'

0:56:310:56:34

my light under a bushel. People knew what I was.

0:56:340:56:37

When you asked, "Who was Ian Paisley?"

0:56:370:56:39

"Oh, that guy!" They'll tell you all about him.

0:56:390:56:42

A deeply divisive figure in life,

0:56:420:56:45

Ian Paisley is likely to remain so in death.

0:56:450:56:48

The question for history will be

0:56:480:56:50

whether his final achievement outweighed what came before.

0:56:500:56:55

There will be those historians who say that he's a great man

0:56:550:56:57

because he was capable of putting

0:56:570:57:01

his whole 50-year past behind him

0:57:010:57:06

and embraced his enemy. That would be a benevolent view of history.

0:57:060:57:11

The cynical view would be

0:57:110:57:14

here is a man who accused all his political enemies of apostasy.

0:57:140:57:19

And he himself turns out to be the greatest apostate or turncoat

0:57:190:57:25

since the Emperor Julian.

0:57:250:57:28

That's the story.

0:57:290:57:31

As with other historical figures

0:57:320:57:34

that have made similar types of journey,

0:57:340:57:36

he will be remembered ultimately for the peace and not the schism,

0:57:360:57:40

which I think is to his credit and also what he deserves.

0:57:400:57:43

I am not infallible,

0:57:430:57:46

I never claimed to the Pope.

0:57:460:57:48

I just was just Ian Paisley,

0:57:480:57:50

an Ulsterman.

0:57:500:57:53

And I look back,

0:57:530:57:56

I have regrets.

0:57:560:57:58

But I have also rejoicing in my heart

0:57:580:58:03

that I kept the faith.

0:58:030:58:05

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