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He was once described by the press as the most dangerous man in | :00:12. | :00:18. | |
Britain. The Viscount's son, the public schoolboy, who became a | :00:19. | :00:21. | |
champion of the working-class. The establishment was scared of him, | :00:22. | :00:25. | |
Here was a guy, perfect manners and charm, public school, and he still | :00:26. | :00:28. | |
wanted to do things for people at the bottom. A politician devoted to | :00:29. | :00:34. | |
his party, but whose socialist vision nearly tore it apart. He | :00:35. | :00:41. | |
managed to become an instrument of and a leader of some of the most | :00:42. | :00:45. | |
destructive forces in the Labour Party. I think he will be remembered | :00:46. | :00:49. | |
as one of the most significant figures the Labour has ever | :00:50. | :00:55. | |
produced. His refusal to compromise on his political beliefs infuriated | :00:56. | :01:00. | |
his colleagues. But having lost the argument he was left on the | :01:01. | :01:07. | |
sidelines. He had been a fixer, an operator, there was no doubt he | :01:08. | :01:10. | |
would have been Prime Minister. When Tony Benn left parliament it was, he | :01:11. | :01:15. | |
said, to spend more time politics, and he never gave up fighting. | :01:16. | :01:19. | |
Ultimately becoming something of a national treasure sure. Comrades | :01:20. | :01:24. | |
this is a very remarkable achievement. I have no regretted | :01:25. | :01:29. | |
whatsoever, I made mistakes, they were mistakes made because I | :01:30. | :01:32. | |
believed what I was saying at the time, not because I was manoeuvring | :01:33. | :01:36. | |
and manipulating for some position for myself. | :01:37. | :01:52. | |
Anthony Neil wedge wedge Benn was born in 1925 to a family steeped in | :01:53. | :01:58. | |
the tradition of radical non-conformism. His playground was | :01:59. | :02:02. | |
Westminster, and from the start his life was intensely political. His | :02:03. | :02:08. | |
grandfather was Sir John Benn, a preacher's son who became a liberal | :02:09. | :02:15. | |
MP, and Tony's father, William Wedgwood Benn was a liberal until | :02:16. | :02:21. | |
switching to Labour. This political ancestry was reinforced by his | :02:22. | :02:25. | |
mother, herself the daughter of a liberal MP. The family was raised at | :02:26. | :02:28. | |
home in Millbank, just a stone's throw from Westminster. A remarkable | :02:29. | :02:34. | |
political childhood, included encounters with Oswald Mosley, | :02:35. | :02:43. | |
Mahatma Gandhi, and McDonald. In 1929 when Tony was four his father | :02:44. | :02:48. | |
became a member of McDonald's cabinet. Mr Wedgwood Benn, he is one | :02:49. | :03:00. | |
of the young men. He is having also a task of the very greatest | :03:01. | :03:06. | |
importance. He is to be the Secretary of State for India. Tony | :03:07. | :03:10. | |
Benn was very unusual in British politicians, who I quite often think | :03:11. | :03:16. | |
are hoesorically minded. But the political compost out of which he | :03:17. | :03:20. | |
came he was very aware of and was eloquent about it. Meeting Ramsey | :03:21. | :03:29. | |
McDonald as a boy. And the non-conformist descent is just as | :03:30. | :03:32. | |
crucial as any version of British Associationism, it was the interplay | :03:33. | :03:36. | |
between the two that made him so fascinating. | :03:37. | :03:39. | |
Holidays spent at the family home on the River Blackwater in Essex were | :03:40. | :03:46. | |
Hick particularly happy. Tony had a younger brother and elder brother. | :03:47. | :03:51. | |
He was very close to his father, who taught them the words of a | :03:52. | :04:00. | |
non-conformist hymn. Dare To Be A Daniel. It was something his dad | :04:01. | :04:05. | |
said to him, it was dare to be a Daniel and dare to stand alone. I | :04:06. | :04:09. | |
think he rather thought very often that message was coming through from | :04:10. | :04:14. | |
the past to him. And if you thought it was right and proper you should | :04:15. | :04:19. | |
stand up and say it. Benn went to Westminster School in 1938, he | :04:20. | :04:23. | |
wasn't a top sol larks but was certainly a top debater, not | :04:24. | :04:26. | |
surprisingly world affairs, appeasment and the imminent war were | :04:27. | :04:31. | |
dominant themes. While at Westminster he learned his father | :04:32. | :04:36. | |
had accepted a hereditary peerage, becoming Viscount Stansgate, an act | :04:37. | :04:42. | |
that would profoundly affect Tony's life and career. After a year at | :04:43. | :04:55. | |
Oxford he followed his brother into the RAF. By 1943 he was sent to | :04:56. | :05:09. | |
train in in Rhodiasia, he was posted to Egypt. That was after a | :05:10. | :05:11. | |
devastating event in the family as life. They were dealt a cruel blow | :05:12. | :05:17. | |
in June 1944 when Michael, the eldest son was killed in a flying | :05:18. | :05:26. | |
accident at an airbase in Sussex. After the war Benn returned to New | :05:27. | :05:32. | |
College Oxford, now the heir to his father's title. His charisma and | :05:33. | :05:37. | |
skill at public speaking saw him elected President of the Union. At | :05:38. | :05:40. | |
times of war the Government creates an unlimited demand for weapons of | :05:41. | :05:45. | |
destruction, for guns, stinks, aircraft and ships, and yet in times | :05:46. | :05:50. | |
of peace when human needs are to be met, needs of food, clothing and | :05:51. | :05:53. | |
shelter, it is possible for the economy to be thrown into one of | :05:54. | :05:59. | |
these paradoxes of misery and poverty. He was one of those elder | :06:00. | :06:02. | |
statesmen which you achieve the position of when you are about 24 in | :06:03. | :06:08. | |
our old universities, and he was of that group. He was charming, | :06:09. | :06:16. | |
eloquent, able. Much admired. In the summer of 1948 Benn met Caroline | :06:17. | :06:25. | |
DeKamp, an American student attending a course at Oxford. He | :06:26. | :06:29. | |
said he fell in love with a girl as soon as he saw her. She was a highly | :06:30. | :06:32. | |
intelligent and rather attractive woman. I think he proposed within | :06:33. | :06:41. | |
three weeks of their meeting. She accepted him. He bought the park | :06:42. | :06:46. | |
bench on which he and she were sitting when he proposed. He has a | :06:47. | :06:54. | |
sentimental side to him. That was a very interesting aspect of his | :06:55. | :06:57. | |
character, which was not generally perceived. You are attuned to the | :06:58. | :07:06. | |
general overseas service of the BBC. In 1949 Tony Benn began his career | :07:07. | :07:10. | |
in the BBC, where he did just about everything from interviewing George | :07:11. | :07:15. | |
Bernard Shaw to providing commentary at Wimbledon. Not very exciting | :07:16. | :07:18. | |
tennis on this court at this particular moment! But at the age of | :07:19. | :07:23. | |
just 25, Benn's career changed tack. He swapped the BBC for the Labour | :07:24. | :07:31. | |
Party. He stood for the seat of Bristol south-east. His collection | :07:32. | :07:35. | |
in November 1950 was the first day of a parliamentary career that would | :07:36. | :07:39. | |
span over half a century. Right from the start, the newly elected MP knew | :07:40. | :07:44. | |
that he could inherent his father's title at any moment. As a Viscount | :07:45. | :07:49. | |
he would no longer be able to work as an MP. As Britain began to | :07:50. | :07:54. | |
modernise Benn was just what the Labour Party needed. A clever, | :07:55. | :07:58. | |
fluent performer with broadcasting experience. | :07:59. | :08:21. | |
Good evening, this is our television operations room. Throughout the | :08:22. | :08:25. | |
campaign the leaders of the Labour Party will be speaking directly from | :08:26. | :08:31. | |
here. As Benn's career took off, he and Carl line started their own | :08:32. | :08:36. | |
family -- Caroline started their own family, eventually having four | :08:37. | :08:40. | |
children. But the event that Benn dreaded happened in November 1960 | :08:41. | :08:44. | |
when his father died. Benn felt the loss keenly. But he was also | :08:45. | :08:48. | |
determined that his career in the elected chamber would not end. He | :08:49. | :08:54. | |
hated the idea that because of blood you could be in a position to shape | :08:55. | :08:57. | |
legislation. He couldn't stand it, he thought it is an axe crowism, he | :08:58. | :09:04. | |
thought an outrage, that fuelled it. The day after his father's death the | :09:05. | :09:11. | |
Speaker ordered that Benn be barred from the House of Commons. But when | :09:12. | :09:14. | |
the inevitable by-election was called, Benn defiantly fought to | :09:15. | :09:21. | |
retain his seat. On what grounds are you fighting the by-election? Well I | :09:22. | :09:24. | |
think two grounds really, first of all the ground of personal freedom. | :09:25. | :09:29. | |
Freedom for me to give up a title I don't want, and freedom for my | :09:30. | :09:33. | |
constituents to choose their own member of parliament. It was | :09:34. | :09:36. | |
fantastic triumph, he won with a huge majority and created a | :09:37. | :09:40. | |
constitutional crisis. Despite all the threats and pressures that have | :09:41. | :09:47. | |
been put upon you here in Bristol South East, you have remained | :09:48. | :09:52. | |
absolutely firm to your right to choose your own member of | :09:53. | :09:57. | |
parliament. That wasn't how the authorities saw it, the door keepers | :09:58. | :10:01. | |
at the Commons had been told to prevent him attending, by force if | :10:02. | :10:06. | |
necessary. So Benn's case was heard by the electoral court. The judgment | :10:07. | :10:10. | |
went against him. His title was said to be a fixed in the blood, and his | :10:11. | :10:15. | |
Conservative opponent was given the seat. But Benn refused to sit back | :10:16. | :10:21. | |
and accept the ruling. It showed extraordinary persistence and | :10:22. | :10:23. | |
courage, he fought back time and again. Each time he was turned down | :10:24. | :10:28. | |
and he just went on. I think it was impressive. That's the kind that | :10:29. | :10:32. | |
Tony Benn was extremely impressive about. That kind of terribly | :10:33. | :10:39. | |
complete determination coupled with chum. Eventually the Conservative | :10:40. | :10:42. | |
Government accepted the need for change. In 1963 the Peerage Bill was | :10:43. | :10:49. | |
passed which allowed Benn to renounce his title. The experience | :10:50. | :10:54. | |
had radicalised him, as he signalled on the night of his second | :10:55. | :11:02. | |
by-election win. Anthony kneel Wedgwood Benn, 20,300, defeating the | :11:03. | :11:09. | |
Tory cabinet. You have defeated the House of Lords, you have defeated | :11:10. | :11:13. | |
the courts, you have changed the constitution of this country by your | :11:14. | :11:22. | |
own power. The mood in the country was changing, Labour was back in | :11:23. | :11:27. | |
office after a 13-year gap, and Prime Minister Harold Wilson | :11:28. | :11:32. | |
appointed Benn Post Master General. Benn was in charge in late 1965 when | :11:33. | :11:40. | |
the ultra modern Post Office Tower was opened by the Queen. Tony Benn | :11:41. | :11:46. | |
in the 60s was clear-eyed, idealistic, something of a Boy Scout | :11:47. | :11:51. | |
in the Labour movement. Very open and on the whole fairly content to | :11:52. | :11:56. | |
live within the limitations that Government imposes. This is the | :11:57. | :12:05. | |
Ministry of Technology, according to its boss, Tony Benn. The object of | :12:06. | :12:09. | |
technology is to get more out of it, not less. He's a politician ready | :12:10. | :12:13. | |
for the new era of change and development. A man who relishes the | :12:14. | :12:18. | |
opportunities his job gives him. He was a technological enthusiast and | :12:19. | :12:25. | |
whizzkid. Part of that was wedded to his temporary enthusiasm for Europe. | :12:26. | :12:29. | |
Technological projects like Concorde were possible with European | :12:30. | :12:36. | |
assistance. He believed it would develop best with European | :12:37. | :12:40. | |
co-operation, and Concorde seemed to be the very image of anglo-French | :12:41. | :12:47. | |
development. He wave the impression of whizzkidry as Ministry of | :12:48. | :12:56. | |
Technology. The labour-intensive nature of the post-war recovery in | :12:57. | :13:00. | |
western Europe was a fleeting thing, and unless the state controlled the | :13:01. | :13:04. | |
application of technology it would crush people it was feared. The ship | :13:05. | :13:11. | |
builders of the upper Clyde were just one group paying the price of | :13:12. | :13:17. | |
technological change. It is here in Britain's decaying industrial | :13:18. | :13:21. | |
heartlands that Benn's enduring political purpose began to emerge. | :13:22. | :13:25. | |
You would think back a number of years ago, the finest ship builders | :13:26. | :13:30. | |
in the world. Yet today we are all here begging for money off the | :13:31. | :13:33. | |
Government. So in my opinion it could be management, it is | :13:34. | :13:38. | |
definitely not the men. As minister for technology Benn was forced to | :13:39. | :13:40. | |
talk about the difficult choices that lay ahead. Do you bring a | :13:41. | :13:49. | |
message of hope? It is a moment of truth today because we have some | :13:50. | :13:53. | |
harsh realities to face, I have come as a friend and not hatchet man. | :13:54. | :13:58. | |
Sure enough Benn ended up pumping in lots of money to keep things going. | :13:59. | :14:02. | |
Comrades most of all thank you very much for your warm welcome. I see | :14:03. | :14:18. | |
all the banners about the fears of redonnedcy. My position as Minister | :14:19. | :14:22. | |
For Technology drove me to think about how people could fight back | :14:23. | :14:27. | |
against big organisations. Although I was involved in all sorts of | :14:28. | :14:31. | |
complicated things one dealt with as a minister, my real interest was | :14:32. | :14:35. | |
developing a political system that allowed people to control their own | :14:36. | :14:48. | |
lives against big international companies. He always said he moved | :14:49. | :14:52. | |
to the left when in office. A lot of people were thinking where is this | :14:53. | :14:56. | |
man going politically. Is he really of the left, is he just pretending. | :14:57. | :15:01. | |
Plenty of cynics said he was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and | :15:02. | :15:04. | |
went to all the best schools and all the rest of it. And this was | :15:05. | :15:10. | |
political posturing and positioning. When Labour unexpectedly lost the | :15:11. | :15:15. | |
election of 1970, for Tony Benn this was Wilson's punishment for | :15:16. | :15:24. | |
betraying the party's ideals. The disappointments of the Wilson | :15:25. | :15:27. | |
Government he felt acutely. Unlike some in that Government he didn't | :15:28. | :15:30. | |
therefore move to the centre and say we must get a progressive centre | :15:31. | :15:35. | |
left consensus and not be too radical about it. He thought the | :15:36. | :15:41. | |
best of the left dissenting traditions had been stifled by the | :15:42. | :15:45. | |
managerial-minded Harold. And Tony, the romantic, came to the fore. | :15:46. | :15:51. | |
Those two then stayed the predominant ones for the rest of his | :15:52. | :15:58. | |
life. Benn's chance came in 1971 when thousands marched through the | :15:59. | :16:01. | |
streets of Glasgow at the decision to end the supsidies to the Clyde | :16:02. | :16:04. | |
ship builders. When the workers took over the shipyards Benn offered his | :16:05. | :16:14. | |
support. We have a great speaker, a man who needs no introduction, Tony | :16:15. | :16:26. | |
Wedgwood Benn! Our Our task, if we want a responsible society, is to | :16:27. | :16:30. | |
give responsibility to ordinary people. And take away the privilege | :16:31. | :16:37. | |
from a minority who have dominated this country for too many centuries, | :16:38. | :16:42. | |
good luck comrades thank you for inviting me. That experience was a | :16:43. | :16:47. | |
revelation, and it was, by anybody's measure a noble struggle. He | :16:48. | :16:58. | |
actually then saw workerism applied and courageously asserted. I think | :16:59. | :17:03. | |
the romantic in him met the politician in him and the result was | :17:04. | :17:13. | |
that the Tony Benn of the 1970s and 80s that everybody remembers. What a | :17:14. | :17:20. | |
transformation it was, always Tony Benn, no more "Anthony Wedgwood" and | :17:21. | :17:30. | |
plenty of tea with the workers. He believed the working-class wanted | :17:31. | :17:34. | |
him to drink out of a big mug. If possible wear a cloth cap. That's | :17:35. | :17:39. | |
because he went through life immensely embarrassed by | :17:40. | :17:43. | |
Westminster, New College, son of a peer, millionaire. We heard very | :17:44. | :17:50. | |
little of that during his lifetime. His enemies throw that at him as if | :17:51. | :17:55. | |
he didn't care or think about the lives of ordinary people. His | :17:56. | :17:59. | |
background wasn't his fault. But as Nye Bevan said it is not where you | :18:00. | :18:03. | |
have come from, it is where you are going. Tony and Caroline lived by | :18:04. | :18:10. | |
the values they espoused. All their kids went to comprehensive schools. | :18:11. | :18:15. | |
There was no critical double standard, other people can send | :18:16. | :18:19. | |
their kids to commencive school and mine is to the best independent | :18:20. | :18:23. | |
school, that wasn't there. Car role was his -- Carol was his rock, she | :18:24. | :18:30. | |
was a strong woman. Academic in her own right. Maybe even stuffer than | :18:31. | :18:34. | |
Tony. Their relationship was fundamental to his ability to carry | :18:35. | :18:38. | |
on doing what he was doing, in a time when a lot of the political | :18:39. | :18:41. | |
world and the media world was against him. K Benn's political | :18:42. | :18:49. | |
journey to the left was encouraged every step by his wife. As Party | :18:50. | :18:54. | |
Chairman he grew for radical, championing worker control and | :18:55. | :18:58. | |
public ownership of industry. State intervention on a massive scale. We | :18:59. | :19:03. | |
must gain democratic control over the huge and remote centres of | :19:04. | :19:07. | |
irresponsible and managerial power created by the latest Industrial | :19:08. | :19:10. | |
Revolution, including the multinational company. The first | :19:11. | :19:18. | |
general election of 1974 saw Labour to return to office. With no | :19:19. | :19:22. | |
majority it was almost powerless and Harold Wilson wanted no trouble. | :19:23. | :19:28. | |
Wilson who always throughout in chess-like terms, made Tony Benn | :19:29. | :19:33. | |
Minister for Industry, in the hope that the harsh realities of the | :19:34. | :19:37. | |
economy would compel Tony into a more "realistic" position, Wilson's | :19:38. | :19:43. | |
quote, what he would see as "moralistic position". But it didn't | :19:44. | :19:49. | |
work that way, Tony saw the answer to the problems as lying greater and | :19:50. | :19:54. | |
greater in state control, and planning agreements with all the | :19:55. | :19:58. | |
major companies which would mean the Government was in the driving seat. | :19:59. | :20:02. | |
Benn drew up a far-reaching industry bill which he believed would stop | :20:03. | :20:07. | |
the rot. These 30 pages contain the most radical plan to alter British | :20:08. | :20:11. | |
society attempted by any Government since the war. Will this bill damage | :20:12. | :20:24. | |
the industry or bring about change. This is Tony's pitch, to grab | :20:25. | :20:27. | |
Britain's economic decline by the throat, turn it round and wrench it | :20:28. | :20:32. | |
in a new direction. He's just like Mrs Thatcher in this. They both | :20:33. | :20:37. | |
believe out of catastrophe could come regeneration, if only people | :20:38. | :20:40. | |
were bold enough to give a lead and they had confidence in theritish | :20:41. | :20:45. | |
people. But the press had no confidence in Tony Benn. The | :20:46. | :20:49. | |
reaction was ferocious, and not much better in cabinet. He fought very | :20:50. | :20:56. | |
hard by every method he knew how to get his industry policy through. | :20:57. | :20:59. | |
Despite the fact it was clear the Government was not enthusiastic | :21:00. | :21:02. | |
about the idea of massive public ownership and planning agreements | :21:03. | :21:08. | |
across the rest of the economy. The continual coming forward for public | :21:09. | :21:14. | |
money to save industries that were almost certainly not viable began to | :21:15. | :21:18. | |
irritate the cabinet. It took a lot of opposition by most of the rest of | :21:19. | :21:23. | |
the cabinet to blunt it, to narrow it down. Benn also had problems | :21:24. | :21:28. | |
selling the policy to his own civil servant. The Permanent Secretary, | :21:29. | :21:34. | |
Sir Anthony Part was especially unhappy. Some of the policies that | :21:35. | :21:37. | |
he was suggesting were pretty radical but we slogged it out | :21:38. | :21:41. | |
between us. You say you slogged it out, in what way do you slog it out | :21:42. | :21:47. | |
to the minister? I would say it is nonsense and I would say that is the | :21:48. | :21:50. | |
way to have it. I would say OK you are the Secretary of State you want | :21:51. | :21:54. | |
it that way you have it that way. He would come in storming, he would | :21:55. | :21:58. | |
want to do something and have a plan for the steel industry or something, | :21:59. | :22:02. | |
and he would come in and say Wilson has stopped, it, I have been to the | :22:03. | :22:07. | |
cabinet today, and it's marked what he has done, the Cabinet Office has | :22:08. | :22:12. | |
rung up Anthony Park what do you think of this, and he has said it is | :22:13. | :22:19. | |
rubbish and Wilson would stop T The civil servants were said to be | :22:20. | :22:23. | |
scared of Benn's reforming zeal. He loved to tell the Tory of a mix-up | :22:24. | :22:34. | |
with his briefing documents. -- the story of a mix up with his briefing | :22:35. | :22:39. | |
documents. There were three briefs, one for a Conservative victory that | :22:40. | :22:43. | |
didn't occur, and the other one for the Industry Minister they hoped | :22:44. | :22:47. | |
for, and one for Mr Benn and they sent me the wrong brief. So I got an | :22:48. | :22:51. | |
idea of what my successor would be advised to do in order to bypass the | :22:52. | :22:55. | |
Mr Benn who had been Secretary of State for Industry from March 7th to | :22:56. | :22:59. | |
4th October. You couldn't have a clearer example, if you like, of why | :23:00. | :23:06. | |
manipulation, and somebody forgot to cross it off and gave the wrong | :23:07. | :23:10. | |
copy. The establishment was scared of him. Here was a guy with perfect | :23:11. | :23:15. | |
manners and charm, grown up with a background of politics, he had grown | :23:16. | :23:19. | |
up public school and still wanted to do things for people at the bottom. | :23:20. | :23:23. | |
It was rather like a disciple might have been in the Bible. And the | :23:24. | :23:30. | |
Messiah, and they thought of him in that way. In the Bible they were | :23:31. | :23:33. | |
very worried about prophets who turned up and got the people's | :23:34. | :23:41. | |
support. Harold Wilson was the man who controlled Tony Benn's | :23:42. | :23:42. | |
ministerial progress, but their relationship was increasingly | :23:43. | :23:51. | |
different. Benn came to dismice Wilson's manipulative style of | :23:52. | :23:56. | |
leadership. Tony was more confident than Wilson, because he was of the | :23:57. | :24:01. | |
purple this rich compost. His detractors would say it was an | :24:02. | :24:06. | |
aristocratic arrogance, I don't think it was. It was self-confidence | :24:07. | :24:13. | |
as if he was voicing the long British tradition that went back to | :24:14. | :24:20. | |
the 17th century, Protestant and the levellers, those who went into power | :24:21. | :24:27. | |
trouble throughout history. I think Harold Wilson thought Tony Benn was | :24:28. | :24:31. | |
his natural successor. Howard represented the new Britain and Tony | :24:32. | :24:35. | |
Benn in anything he did and said represented new Britain as well. | :24:36. | :24:40. | |
Tony was what we call in Yorkshire, awkward, he was not a team player, | :24:41. | :24:46. | |
he was difficult with Harold. Harold became more dispairing of him and | :24:47. | :24:50. | |
began the demigration of him, making him into a joke. He is an ageing | :24:51. | :24:58. | |
perennial youth. He immatures with age! He certainly does, he was | :24:59. | :25:03. | |
terribly sensible when he was a young minister for the first time in | :25:04. | :25:08. | |
the Post Office. Wilson decided to rein him in, he was backed by senior | :25:09. | :25:12. | |
cabinet colleagues, and they all demanded that Benn give an | :25:13. | :25:15. | |
undertaking in writing that he would stick to collective responsibility. | :25:16. | :25:23. | |
An extraordinary letter in the Prime Minister's files dated November 6th | :25:24. | :25:28. | |
1974, and it is Tony Benn to Harold Wilson, as part of his running row | :25:29. | :25:34. | |
about collectsive responsibility. Just listen. "Dear Prime Minister I | :25:35. | :25:37. | |
made it clear in my last letter that I accept the principle of collective | :25:38. | :25:40. | |
responsibility as applying to all ministers. And all the requirements | :25:41. | :25:47. | |
that flow from it. Yours Tony Benn". That is the minimum of what he could | :25:48. | :25:50. | |
have said to satisfied Wilson. You can feel the resentment, it bursts | :25:51. | :25:55. | |
out from this built of paper and it sings volumes, how he hated it. | :25:56. | :26:00. | |
The rift grew wider, Britain had joined the Common Market two years | :26:01. | :26:06. | |
earlier, now Benn led the cause for a referendum on whether to stay in, | :26:07. | :26:16. | |
he got his way. Labour was bitterly divided and Wilson tried to limit | :26:17. | :26:19. | |
the damage, cleverly, by allowing minister to do what they liked and | :26:20. | :26:24. | |
campaign according to their consciences. Benn's journey to the | :26:25. | :26:33. | |
left had involved a re-think on Europe. He now saw the E. C as | :26:34. | :26:37. | |
deeply undemocratic, and an enemy of socialism. Wherever you look you | :26:38. | :26:43. | |
find British manufacturing industry in decline. You find our capacity to | :26:44. | :26:51. | |
sell our goods abroad threatened by more powerful continental | :26:52. | :26:54. | |
manufacturers who have been able to get investment in their plant, | :26:55. | :26:57. | |
denied to British workers in this country. He knew the European Union | :26:58. | :27:06. | |
rules would stop any control of industry which he was in very much | :27:07. | :27:10. | |
favour of. He campaigned against going into Europe, and he didn't | :27:11. | :27:17. | |
have a chance the press wanted him to go into Europe and it became a | :27:18. | :27:28. | |
vote for and against Benn. He has been described as "dangerous" as | :27:29. | :27:36. | |
"devious" as "evil" as "unscrupulous" as "fanatical" as | :27:37. | :27:42. | |
"lunatic" that is hardly a single word in the book that hasn't been | :27:43. | :27:46. | |
thrown at him. It is the vilist campaign of misrepresentation | :27:47. | :27:53. | |
against any politician that has been seen. They were vile to him and it | :27:54. | :28:00. | |
scarred him. He saw it as organised by rich owners against working | :28:01. | :28:06. | |
people of Britain and the Democratic Left condition. The yes campaign | :28:07. | :28:09. | |
scored a massive victory on polling day. In the aftermath Benn's | :28:10. | :28:14. | |
relations with his boss worsened. Wilson was determined to block his | :28:15. | :28:18. | |
progress without upsetting the left. It was so obvious that Benn would | :28:19. | :28:24. | |
highly likely to be the next Prime Minister of the Labour Party, or at | :28:25. | :28:27. | |
least if we went into opposition the next leader and Wilson was | :28:28. | :28:31. | |
determined to stop him. He couldn't do anything until the referendum was | :28:32. | :28:37. | |
over. As soon as the referendum was over, he said he would clip his | :28:38. | :28:41. | |
wings and he did, shoved him to energy. Benn did think about | :28:42. | :28:46. | |
resigning but he decided to carry on, inheriting another set of civil | :28:47. | :28:52. | |
servants. I got a telephone call late at night to say that I would be | :28:53. | :29:00. | |
getting a new minister, and I was going to get Tony Benn. And I just | :29:01. | :29:06. | |
laughed and laughed. You might say it was a form of hysteria. I don't | :29:07. | :29:13. | |
think it was hysterical laughing. I wondered what I had done to deserve | :29:14. | :29:26. | |
this I knew his reputation. I'm really surprised he took the job, he | :29:27. | :29:42. | |
was so badly shaken up. Benn's prospects changed when Harold Wilson | :29:43. | :29:47. | |
resigned, prompting a leadership election. Tony Benn offered a | :29:48. | :29:50. | |
radical and uncompromising socialist programme. As a candidate I must | :29:51. | :29:55. | |
make clear if anyone votes for me there will be a stronger national | :29:56. | :29:59. | |
enterprise board, planning agreements with major companies. | :30:00. | :30:04. | |
Government-financed investment to reequip Britain, otherwise this | :30:05. | :30:07. | |
country, which built its strength on manufacturing industry, will bleed | :30:08. | :30:11. | |
to death. Look at this one, sent us a bunch of heather. Despite high | :30:12. | :30:16. | |
hopes, Benn came a disappointing fourth in the first ballot and crew | :30:17. | :30:26. | |
withdrew from the contest. We had a meeting afterwards and everyone said | :30:27. | :30:30. | |
you did well. I said what do we have to do, why won't they vote for me. | :30:31. | :30:40. | |
And I said it was because he took more risks, and the party were | :30:41. | :30:43. | |
choosing. He said we will change the rules. Under the ruse of the day it | :30:44. | :30:51. | |
was James Callaghan who stepped into Downing Street. Callaghan did all | :30:52. | :30:58. | |
the things Benn hated, relying on monetary policies, rather than | :30:59. | :31:01. | |
increased state planning. Before long the unions were up in arms. | :31:02. | :31:12. | |
About 1978 with Jim Callaghan as leader and Michael Foot as deputy | :31:13. | :31:19. | |
leader. And with no majorit Tony Benn was acting on the basis that | :31:20. | :31:23. | |
Labour would be defeated at the next election and he would be September | :31:24. | :31:30. | |
to the leadership. By a Labour movement that insisted of having the | :31:31. | :31:35. | |
determining right to decide who led the party. Although Benn was | :31:36. | :31:39. | |
appalled that Britain had elected the most right-wing Tory leader in | :31:40. | :31:46. | |
living memory, he found opposition surprisingly liberated. Politician | :31:47. | :31:52. | |
Tony Benn, is signing copies of his latest book, arguments for | :31:53. | :31:56. | |
socialism. He had resigned from the Shadow Cabinet immediately after the | :31:57. | :32:00. | |
election, and enjoyed the freedom to speak and write about Labour's | :32:01. | :32:05. | |
internal democracy, not least the excessive power of the party leader | :32:06. | :32:07. | |
and the rejection of policies voted for by the party conference. I feel | :32:08. | :32:14. | |
strongly that the degree of centralisation of power in the | :32:15. | :32:17. | |
Labour Party, with the patronage put into the hand of one man is in | :32:18. | :32:22. | |
ompatible with parliamentary democracy and unless the Labour | :32:23. | :32:27. | |
Party is able to end personal patronage and introduce greater | :32:28. | :32:30. | |
accountability, it wouldn't be able to fulfil its historic role as | :32:31. | :32:35. | |
democratic party within a parliamentary democracy. Tony deeply | :32:36. | :32:39. | |
believed in the idea of the accountability of Government to the | :32:40. | :32:44. | |
party. Although I say he wasn't a communist, and he wasn't. That is | :32:45. | :32:47. | |
fundamentally the Marxist belief that the Government is responsible | :32:48. | :32:53. | |
to the party. My fundamental concept was that the Government is | :32:54. | :32:57. | |
responsible to the people. So his whole pull was towards putting the | :32:58. | :33:00. | |
parliamentary Labour Party under the control and authority of the | :33:01. | :33:04. | |
National Executive Committee, which would have meant a party pushed well | :33:05. | :33:07. | |
to the left, because that is where the NEC stood. The great showdown | :33:08. | :33:14. | |
came in 1980 at the Labour conference, when the party debated | :33:15. | :33:18. | |
Benn's plans to change the constitution. It turned tout to be | :33:19. | :33:23. | |
an immensely bitter gathering. The atmosphere in the party was poison, | :33:24. | :33:28. | |
people who used to go for a pint after the meeting wouldn't talk to | :33:29. | :33:31. | |
each other. Everything was blamed on Benn. They said Tony for God's sake | :33:32. | :33:37. | |
stop tingering with the party -- tinkering with the party, stop | :33:38. | :33:41. | |
changing the rules, we don't care about the rule book or how many | :33:42. | :33:47. | |
angels can dance on the pin. For God's sake tackle Thatcher, she's | :33:48. | :33:52. | |
shutting the pits, attack her, don't waste time fiddling while Rome burns | :33:53. | :33:57. | |
in rewriting the book of the Labour Party. Because Tony, that is not | :33:58. | :34:00. | |
what we want. He still kept on doing it. In what he considered the best | :34:01. | :34:11. | |
speech of his life, he listed all the promises the Labour Government | :34:12. | :34:16. | |
had broken between 1974 and 1979. He went on to itemise the policies | :34:17. | :34:20. | |
proposed by the trades unions which James Callaghan had allegedly | :34:21. | :34:23. | |
refused to put into the party's election manifesto. Reflayings of | :34:24. | :34:30. | |
public sector service spending ruled out, substantial cut in arms | :34:31. | :34:35. | |
expenditure, ruled out, the immediate introduction of a wealth | :34:36. | :34:41. | |
tax, ruled out. The imposition of selective import controls, ruled | :34:42. | :34:44. | |
out. He was undoubtedly carried forward, to some extent, by the | :34:45. | :34:48. | |
sheer excitement of his own capacity of to arouse tremendous popular | :34:49. | :34:53. | |
feeling within the Labour Government among the activists. There was a | :34:54. | :34:58. | |
kind of interplay between Tony and the activists. He communicated | :34:59. | :35:02. | |
brilliantly, they responded emotionally and fiercely, and | :35:03. | :35:07. | |
sometimes even aggressively. I think the thing drove him on. The | :35:08. | :35:16. | |
sentiments that mobilised in his favour exists in the Labour Party | :35:17. | :35:23. | |
and had been reinforced and remenished by interests from | :35:24. | :35:29. | |
Trotskite elements. If he hadn't been there with his talent and | :35:30. | :35:36. | |
background and his resolute course of action to articulate what they | :35:37. | :35:44. | |
wanted and to give it respectability then it might have provoked some | :35:45. | :35:48. | |
difficulties. It would have had to be dealt with, but it never would | :35:49. | :35:54. | |
have become a source of potential disaster for the Labour Party. It is | :35:55. | :36:06. | |
nonsense to suggest it is a Trotskite revolution. Those who made | :36:07. | :36:09. | |
it knew it wasn't. They wanted to get him to conthem the Socialist | :36:10. | :36:12. | |
Workers' Party or militant, because they were leading him into a trap, | :36:13. | :36:22. | |
they wanted him to dignify the accusations they were making. The | :36:23. | :36:25. | |
conference had been a triumph for the left over Callaghan's | :36:26. | :36:29. | |
leadership. Nuclear disarment, and the withdrawal from the EEC were | :36:30. | :36:37. | |
adopted as policy. And a special arrangement to debate the rules for | :36:38. | :36:42. | |
electing party leaders. But James Callaghan suddenly resigned before | :36:43. | :36:45. | |
that conference to take place. He was hoping MPs would elect Denis | :36:46. | :36:49. | |
Healey, under the old rules. But they didn't. Instead they chose | :36:50. | :36:54. | |
Michael Foot. The veteran left-winger as Labour leader. Benn | :36:55. | :37:05. | |
and his supporters kept up their challenges that in future unions, | :37:06. | :37:10. | |
party members and MPs would elect the party leadership. Roy gen. Ins | :37:11. | :37:21. | |
and his gang of four were disgusted by Labour and left to form a new | :37:22. | :37:33. | |
party, the SDP. Michael Foot and Denis Healey had an impossible task | :37:34. | :37:37. | |
of keeping the Labour Party together. Wait until the press | :37:38. | :37:45. | |
conference. By 1981 and his bizarre decision to run against Denis Healey | :37:46. | :37:53. | |
for the deputy leadership of the Labour Party. That was a personal | :37:54. | :37:57. | |
ambition and it had become a substantive force. We are on the | :37:58. | :38:02. | |
edge of disruption and disillusion. The extreme left infiltration. The | :38:03. | :38:09. | |
insipient SDP's defection, all the things made the future of the party | :38:10. | :38:17. | |
in the balance. Benn knew the unions held the key to any party victory | :38:18. | :38:21. | |
with 40% of the new Electoral College, but he needed to convince | :38:22. | :38:24. | |
the members so that they in turn would influence their masters. He | :38:25. | :38:31. | |
took his message across the country. You have to have a socialist | :38:32. | :38:35. | |
perfective. The word socialist is spat out by the media as if it is a | :38:36. | :38:39. | |
disease. They get a picture, sometimes of me, with hands out and | :38:40. | :38:44. | |
eyes open, "socialism" they say, and children are put to bed and mother | :38:45. | :38:51. | |
has another Ovaltine and settles down to her novel from the Boots | :38:52. | :38:55. | |
library, and people hope it will all go away. That is not how it is | :38:56. | :39:01. | |
pronounced. It is a socialism. It is about trying to construct a society | :39:02. | :39:05. | |
around production and need and not just for profit. It is around | :39:06. | :39:08. | |
meeting people's needs, that is what it is about. The fact is, he was at | :39:09. | :39:15. | |
the head of a broad popular movement, certainly within the | :39:16. | :39:20. | |
Labour Party and those, the establishment of the party were a | :39:21. | :39:23. | |
small minority, protected from the wrath of the members by the block | :39:24. | :39:27. | |
votes of the trade union leaders which they shamelessly misused. In | :39:28. | :39:35. | |
the other corner, Denis Healey was courting the right-wing union | :39:36. | :39:42. | |
leaders, such as Frank Chapel. All our executive members here. That's | :39:43. | :39:49. | |
right. It was the most intensive struggle for power that I have ever | :39:50. | :39:52. | |
witnessed in the Labour Party. We had the entire establishment of the | :39:53. | :39:55. | |
Labour Party, and they threw at us everything you could conceivably | :39:56. | :40:01. | |
imagine. It was a very tough time. The voting took blaze on the first | :40:02. | :40:05. | |
day of the Labour conference of 1981. For sheer drama it could | :40:06. | :40:11. | |
hardly be bettered. Handful of votes turned out to be immensely | :40:12. | :40:15. | |
significant for Labour's future. The final decision and I will say this | :40:16. | :40:18. | |
now, the votes have been counted three times. Tony Benn, 49. #R5 74. | :40:19. | :40:35. | |
-- 49. A 574. Denis Healey, 50. 426. If Tony Benn had defeated Denis | :40:36. | :40:42. | |
Healey, he would have been then the most popular politician in the | :40:43. | :40:52. | |
country. He knew that, he saw it in the newspapers and he was prepared | :40:53. | :40:55. | |
to risk that for hubris, that is one of the things I hold against him. | :40:56. | :41:00. | |
Labour's troubles were about to deepen, the militant steppedcy had | :41:01. | :41:06. | |
taken over many branches. Leadership attempts to expel them were opposed | :41:07. | :41:11. | |
by Tony Benn and allies. Tony Benn and others were using the machine in | :41:12. | :41:15. | |
a way I thought was absolutely scandalous. We had every month a | :41:16. | :41:19. | |
meeting of the national executive, which instead of being a might be of | :41:20. | :41:24. | |
the executive of the party, was turned into an absolute gift to the | :41:25. | :41:29. | |
Daily Mail and the Express and all the most bitter enemies. They had | :41:30. | :41:33. | |
all the journalists outside waiting for the latest meeting of the | :41:34. | :41:38. | |
national executive to feed the kind of stuff that suited them. I would | :41:39. | :41:47. | |
say to people who moved in to try t hopefully it will lead to expulsions | :41:48. | :41:51. | |
but it won't succeed. I would say to people at home, particularly good | :41:52. | :41:55. | |
Labour people, don't worry they got rid of crooks and Bevan and thought | :41:56. | :41:59. | |
they all came back f they get rid of anyone this time they will all be | :42:00. | :42:05. | |
back don't worry. He didn't like tyranny at all, but he would see a | :42:06. | :42:17. | |
side to the Trotski activists, people who needed rights too. | :42:18. | :42:23. | |
Margaret Thatcher was by now the victor of the Falklands War and | :42:24. | :42:25. | |
called an election the following year. Labour's campaign was | :42:26. | :42:36. | |
disastrous, its manifesto was dubbed the longest suicide note in history. | :42:37. | :42:41. | |
For Tony Benn boundaries meant he was standing in Bristol East, much | :42:42. | :42:50. | |
of it new territory for him. Labour calling, Tony Benn is in the road | :42:51. | :42:53. | |
now, come along and meet him. There was a huge amount at take for Benn | :42:54. | :42:59. | |
in this campaign. Everyone knew as soon as the elections were out of | :43:00. | :43:02. | |
the way there will be elections for the leader of the Labour Party. If | :43:03. | :43:05. | |
he were out of parliament he wouldn't be available as a | :43:06. | :43:09. | |
candidate. So I think it is actually a mark of his integrity that he | :43:10. | :43:17. | |
chose to stay in Bristol and go down with the ship. Anthony Neil Wedgwood | :43:18. | :43:44. | |
Benn, 18,055. Jonathan Saith 19,874. I here by Claire that Jonathan Said | :43:45. | :43:49. | |
has been elected member for the constituency. I would like to thank | :43:50. | :43:53. | |
the people of Bristol who over a third of a century have returned me | :43:54. | :43:57. | |
to parliament, to say how glad I am I stayed. Since nothing but the | :43:58. | :44:03. | |
defeat and decision of the people of Bristol would ever have induce | :44:04. | :44:10. | |
immediate to leave this city. -- induced me to leave the city. Less | :44:11. | :44:14. | |
than a year later Benn was back, flanked by the new party leader, | :44:15. | :44:18. | |
Neil Kinnock. He had been elected as a Labour candidate for the mining | :44:19. | :44:22. | |
town of Chesterfield. His old rival, Denis Healey, had also come to give | :44:23. | :44:39. | |
him his support. Tony without Benn is like Torvill without Dean! After | :44:40. | :44:46. | |
an unpleasant few weeks and a vicious press campaign, Benn won the | :44:47. | :44:58. | |
seat. Anthony Neil Wedgwood Benn, 24,733. | :44:59. | :45:03. | |
# It's here we go # Here we go | :45:04. | :45:08. | |
# All the women of the working-class Once again he found common cause | :45:09. | :45:13. | |
with the nation's workers, as the miners' went on strike based on | :45:14. | :45:20. | |
Thatcher's policies. I think she's a brutal woman, following policies of | :45:21. | :45:26. | |
bash barrism which are impossible. I first met Benn during the Miners' | :45:27. | :45:31. | |
Strike, and that was how I was politic sized. I was going up and | :45:32. | :45:38. | |
doing gigs in the coalfields taking part in the demonstrations and there | :45:39. | :45:42. | |
were platform speakers and Tony was prominent. He always seemed the most | :45:43. | :45:46. | |
approachable of the whole generation of politicians. There were those who | :45:47. | :45:58. | |
supported Scargill the leader of the unis and those who didn't support | :45:59. | :46:02. | |
him. Benn supported Scargill. He was a man of principle, sometimes that | :46:03. | :46:06. | |
became more important to him than the party. This was a battle Benn | :46:07. | :46:13. | |
couldn't win. And the defeat of the miners only deepened the split in | :46:14. | :46:17. | |
the Labour Party between the left and the right. Kinnock now decided | :46:18. | :46:22. | |
to face down the left. But Benn continued to oppose him, not least | :46:23. | :46:26. | |
on policies made popular by Mrs Thatcher, including the right of | :46:27. | :46:30. | |
council tenants to buy their homes. Tony said in the course of the low, | :46:31. | :46:36. | |
these are not the tenants' houses to buy. These are the communities' | :46:37. | :46:41. | |
houses, I have to say to him, Tony, on the day when you start paying a | :46:42. | :46:45. | |
mortgage or rent you will have some authority on the subject. Until then | :46:46. | :46:50. | |
you have none. Let's have the vote. And we had the vote and won by one. | :46:51. | :46:58. | |
It was incandescent at the superficiality and the patronising | :46:59. | :47:03. | |
attitude that was voiced in good conscience by a decent man. But | :47:04. | :47:13. | |
utterly misguided. Labour's third election defeat in a row game in | :47:14. | :47:18. | |
1987, Kinnock was convinced the party hadn't changed enough. Benn | :47:19. | :47:22. | |
was convinced it had changed far too much and now needed to return to | :47:23. | :47:26. | |
unmistakenly socialist policies. The impression created now, and I will | :47:27. | :47:30. | |
be blunt with you, is the Labour Party at the top is in panic-striken | :47:31. | :47:36. | |
route and is anxious to say anything to pick up votes. They kept on | :47:37. | :47:46. | |
making the same speeches like Barbra Streisand, they were be wonderful | :47:47. | :47:49. | |
and everybody loved them but you don't want to keep putting on her | :47:50. | :47:54. | |
records, and it became like that. People don't know what the Labour | :47:55. | :48:03. | |
Party is about at all. Such was his anger that Tony Benn decided after | :48:04. | :48:07. | |
some hesitation to challenge Kinnock for the leadership. He said to me | :48:08. | :48:16. | |
when I vine invited him not to do that. He said all those who loved me | :48:17. | :48:22. | |
said not to. You can add me to that list. We recognised we would be | :48:23. | :48:27. | |
soundly beaten. And so he was, Kinnock and Hattersly trounces the | :48:28. | :48:33. | |
others, years later he expressed contempt for the victor. I would | :48:34. | :48:37. | |
have been utterly ashamed if I followed the course of Neil Kinnock, | :48:38. | :48:41. | |
giving up everything I believed in to get the leadership and having | :48:42. | :48:45. | |
done so nobody believed a word you said. Had no regrets, I made | :48:46. | :48:50. | |
mistake, but they were mistakes made because I believed what I was saying | :48:51. | :48:55. | |
at the time. Not because I was manoeuvring or manipulating a | :48:56. | :48:59. | |
position for myself. I don't know how great the regrets were that he | :49:00. | :49:03. | |
didn't do more. That the party he thought was the only one that could | :49:04. | :49:09. | |
transform a society and its economy in a beneficial direction didn't | :49:10. | :49:18. | |
have more purchase in his era. Margaret Thatcher so changed the | :49:19. | :49:22. | |
terms of political debate that the left gave away so much ground all in | :49:23. | :49:33. | |
a the rough. I know he felt that. Who would like the House of Lords?! | :49:34. | :49:39. | |
By the time Tony Benn celebrated his 70th birthday, he was still | :49:40. | :49:42. | |
campaigning on the issues that matter to him. Against the drift of | :49:43. | :49:55. | |
the party. For Benn the advent of new Labour was another lurch to the | :49:56. | :49:59. | |
right. It may have been electorally successful, but the concentration of | :50:00. | :50:09. | |
power in the leadership was an neath ma anathema to him. When I look and | :50:10. | :50:13. | |
new Labour, I wonder was it not trying to light a bonfire on a | :50:14. | :50:18. | |
frozen late. Looking very nice but you melted away your own support. | :50:19. | :50:22. | |
The man who once held the party conference in the calm of his hand | :50:23. | :50:25. | |
now looked on from the sidelines. But he did manage to reach new | :50:26. | :50:30. | |
audiences. So why do they call it the welfare state, is it because it | :50:31. | :50:47. | |
is "welfare". We have -- well F air. Unemployment benefit is wicked, you | :50:48. | :50:52. | |
get something for doing nothing. Why would you do nothing? You are | :50:53. | :50:56. | |
chilling. This idea that if you are unemployed you are lazy, it is | :50:57. | :51:00. | |
rubbish. I think that interview with Ali G did me more good with sixth | :51:01. | :51:04. | |
formers than anything that has ever happened. They all enjoyed it all, | :51:05. | :51:09. | |
so did I. Maximum respect gone out to my main man. Typically he took | :51:10. | :51:15. | |
the whole episode in the best spirit. After 50 years at the heart | :51:16. | :51:24. | |
of the Labour Party, personal tragedy brought him to stand down in | :51:25. | :51:29. | |
2001. His wife Caroline fell ill with cancer, they made the decision | :51:30. | :51:33. | |
to try to enjoy every remaining moment. He phoned me up and usually | :51:34. | :51:43. | |
he's not someone to talk about personal things. He was on for 40 | :51:44. | :51:47. | |
minutes talking about the devastation of her condition and her | :51:48. | :51:56. | |
illness. He was broken hearted. She taught me how to live and how to | :51:57. | :52:00. | |
die. And you cannot ask any more of anyone than that. Loving, caring, | :52:01. | :52:05. | |
thoughtful, critical, when necessary, always understanding and | :52:06. | :52:12. | |
always forgiving. To have had the good fortune and privilege of living | :52:13. | :52:15. | |
with her and learning from her for so long made her the centre piece of | :52:16. | :52:20. | |
my life and the life of all my family. We discussed my decision -- | :52:21. | :52:28. | |
We discussed my decision not to stand again for Chesterfield before | :52:29. | :52:32. | |
she died, it was her suggestion that I should explain it and say I was | :52:33. | :52:38. | |
giving up parliament to devote for time to politics. He found no | :52:39. | :52:46. | |
greater cause in later life than the coalition against the war in Iraq, | :52:47. | :52:49. | |
he was there among the record crowds in London in 200 #. 3. Please give | :52:50. | :53:00. | |
the warmest welcome for Tony Benn. Friends, we are here today to found | :53:01. | :53:08. | |
a new political movement, worldwide. The biggest demonstration ever in | :53:09. | :53:17. | |
Britain, the first global demonstration and the first cause is | :53:18. | :53:21. | |
to prevent a war against Iraq. Benn took his antiwar campaign right into | :53:22. | :53:26. | |
Baghdad. Where he met Saddam Hussein, just a few weeks before the | :53:27. | :53:36. | |
allied invasion. Iraq featured frequently in his hugely popular | :53:37. | :53:43. | |
one-man show. And Benn found himself treated as a political sage. I think | :53:44. | :53:48. | |
democracy is a do it yourself business. There was a Chinese | :53:49. | :53:53. | |
philosopher I read about who lived many years before the birth of | :53:54. | :53:55. | |
Christ. He was asked about leadership, and this is what he | :53:56. | :54:00. | |
said, he said "as to the best leaders, the people do not notice | :54:01. | :54:14. | |
their existence, and that is what we need". The audiences were Laura | :54:15. | :54:18. | |
Ashley, you could see them thinking, he has a point. A lot of them were | :54:19. | :54:25. | |
nowhere near him in his politics, but he was extraordinary like that. | :54:26. | :54:32. | |
When I do my diary overnight as I do, I am so depressed by the papers | :54:33. | :54:36. | |
that I can't think, and sometimes when I consider the possibilities at | :54:37. | :54:40. | |
our disposal, I get so thrilled that I wonder if it is good if someone at | :54:41. | :54:46. | |
nigh age can get as excited as I do. Thank you very much indeed. | :54:47. | :54:55. | |
The politicians politician is... Hillary Benn. Seeing son Hillary | :54:56. | :55:01. | |
respected by opponents and promoted to cabinet rank gave Tony Benn | :55:02. | :55:06. | |
enormous pleasure, this was the fourth generation of Benns in | :55:07. | :55:10. | |
parliament, and the third at the cabinet table. This ises had moment, | :55:11. | :55:15. | |
can I say a word about him, he's only 52 and I'm going to give him a | :55:16. | :55:34. | |
hug. Welcome to Leftfield and we're very pleased to have Tony with us. | :55:35. | :55:39. | |
He has been almost... . My abiding memory will be how he wowed the | :55:40. | :55:47. | |
crowds at glassedry. Reputation -- Glastonbury. His reputation seemed | :55:48. | :55:51. | |
to transcend the generations. I don't protest I demand what we want. | :55:52. | :55:55. | |
It is clear someone like him wouldn't find place in contemporary | :55:56. | :55:58. | |
politics. But he found a place in the heart of the British people and | :55:59. | :56:02. | |
I think that's sort of like casting a poor light on the way we do | :56:03. | :56:08. | |
politic today. Please give real Trafalgar Square welcome to Tony | :56:09. | :56:12. | |
Benn. Despite failing health, Benn, ever the politician, refused to keep | :56:13. | :56:16. | |
quiet and carried on campaigning throughout his retirement. Comrades | :56:17. | :56:22. | |
this is a very remarkable occasion, never forget that the British Labour | :56:23. | :56:26. | |
movement has always been in favour of peace. | :56:27. | :56:37. | |
As a member of the human race, it is as members of the human race we need | :56:38. | :56:40. | |
to respond. I believe the inspiration he gave us will allow us | :56:41. | :56:46. | |
to do just that. I express my deepest gratitude to him and all | :56:47. | :56:56. | |
those who work with him. By the end of his life Tony Benn had become the | :56:57. | :56:59. | |
voice of the nation's conscience, hugely admired for his principles in | :57:00. | :57:03. | |
a way he never managed as a politician. I think British politics | :57:04. | :57:10. | |
would have been different,s and most of the time poorer. Without Tony | :57:11. | :57:20. | |
Benn. For me it would have been rather easier and more convenient. | :57:21. | :57:27. | |
He will be remembered by people who take politics seriously as the | :57:28. | :57:31. | |
totally irresponsible. He had no consistent view of what policy | :57:32. | :57:34. | |
should be, he was immensely concerned with his own image and | :57:35. | :57:40. | |
status. He was a bad team player and probably more than anybody else | :57:41. | :57:43. | |
responsible for peopling the Labour Party out of Government between 1979 | :57:44. | :57:53. | |
and 1997. No-one can take away from him the extraordinary impact and | :57:54. | :57:56. | |
galvanising effect he had on the party and the country to some extent | :57:57. | :58:02. | |
in the 1970s and early 80s. He was an inspirational figure who might, | :58:03. | :58:09. | |
had he been elected leader, have changed the tide of British | :58:10. | :58:17. | |
politics. I'm pretty convinced that Tony Benn thought to his dying day, | :58:18. | :58:21. | |
that what he believed motivated people and what mattered to | :58:22. | :58:26. | |
societies would prevail. He was a prophet as much as politician. Just | :58:27. | :58:30. | |
think how much the poorer the national British political | :58:31. | :58:32. | |
conversation would have been without him. From 1950 right to the moment | :58:33. | :58:37. | |
he died. And you can't say that of many people. | :58:38. | :59:00. |