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This programme contains some strong language.

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When I was a little boy, I lived in grey suburbia

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in a large Irish family, where my dad was boss.

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MUSIC: Get It On by T.Rex

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# So come on, feel the noise... #

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Watching Top Of The Pops on Thursdays

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was where I learned to be a real man.

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# He'll steal your woman out from under your nose... #

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The glam rockers were my only hope.

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But even they seemed to be finding their way.

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# We just haven't got a clue what to do. #

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Steve Priest wasn't the only one.

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MUSIC: I Feel Love by Donna Summer

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In the '70s, nobody knew what to do about Britain.

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The economy was in tatters.

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Industry was in decline.

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Governments changed like traffic lights.

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There were fears about terrorism, immigration and fascism.

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We joined Europe and then we wanted out.

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This is a film about how the '70s shaped me.

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It's my story, but it's also Britain's.

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I didn't watch the news

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but if I'd known what I know now, I would've moved to Mars.

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I was busy learning about the important stuff -

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about David Bowie and Marc Bolan,

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dressing up and going out and coming out -

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and racing towards a fateful day at the BBC.

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On September the 30th 1982,

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there was a disaster at Top Of The Pops.

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It was Shakin' Stevens. He couldn't make it.

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Me and my band were very available.

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For the first time on Top Of The Pops, it's Culture Club.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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# Give me time... #

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'In three minutes and 22 seconds,

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'my arched eyebrows caused national alarm and confusion.

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'My make-up outraged the press.'

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"It called itself a boy, but was it a girl?"

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Civilisation was in grave danger.

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# Do you really want to hurt me? #

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'Our song went to number one in Britain and many other countries.

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'It was 1982 and the start of a life with and without Culture Club -

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'love, money, drugs, fame and more drama.'

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People got to know me in the 1980s,

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but my journey from boy to Boy George really began in the 1970s.

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This programme contains some strong language

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They say the past is another country.

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These days, I spend a lot of time living in another country.

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Being here in America, it feels easier to have some perspective

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on the Britain and the decade I grew up in.

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For some people, it's a taste or a smell that triggers memories.

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For me, it's always music.

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A good record shop is like a time machine.

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These days, records are for hipsters,

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but back in the '70s, they were all we had.

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Ah-ha-ha!

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The thing about vinyl...

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is it takes you back to a moment in time.

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You know, these are like memories.

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A talisman. These are sacred objects.

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To the people of my generation, these are sacred objects.

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MUSIC: Love Story by Shirley Bassey

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# Where do I begin... #

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-This is where

-I

-began.

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Eltham, in south-east London.

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In 1970, I was nine years old.

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But even at that age, my world was sparkling!

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When the family were out, I was alone with a hairbrush microphone.

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And throwing her arms around was Shirley Bassey.

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In this very living room, I fell in love with Shirley Bassey,

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and the idea of, kind of, being a performer.

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You know, I loved the whole drama of it.

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In the '70s, we were very typical of a lot of families.

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My dad ruled the roost.

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He went out to work, my mum was supposed to cook, clean,

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run the house.

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And I think one of the reasons I love Shirley so much is because

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my mum, you know, was kind of, you know, like a normal housewife,

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and never got a chance to be glamorous.

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So I really became quite obsessed with glamorous,

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strong women like Shirley Bassey, Joan Collins - people like that,

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that were, like, glamorous and, you know, got their own way.

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That's never really changed! HE LAUGHS

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MUSIC: Low Rider by War

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Right from the start, I needed glamour.

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Eltham Green Secondary was never going to appeal.

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Mum had to drag me out of bed and push me out the door every morning.

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Mum still lives in the house we moved into in 1974.

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-TV:

-'It's one of the nation's newest giant comprehensives and, in fact,

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'a school of tomorrow for the children of today.'

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In the '70s, teachers just didn't like kids.

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If you came from a certain type of family,

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you were marked the minute you went into school.

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My older brother had been arrested, you know, he'd been arrested

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for stealing lead off the school roof where I went to.

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So the minute I went to school, it was like,

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"You're an O'Dowd - you're trouble."

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They don't want you to have a personality.

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They don't want you to be an individual. They want you to shut up.

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And, you know, as you can see...

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And unfortunately, Georgie could not shut up.

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HE CHUCKLES Never!

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Me and some of the friends I'd yet to meet didn't really fit into

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the great comprehensive education experiment of the 1970s.

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At the time, particularly in the comprehensive system,

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the idea was that you were factory fodder

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and it didn't matter whether you were taught or not.

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There were boy lessons and girl lessons.

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No gender-bending allowed.

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I remember going to see the careers officer and saying,

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"Oh, maybe I could be a make-up artist!" And I remember them saying,

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"Mr O'Dowd, you need to be more practical and realistic."

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I wasn't allowed to take woodwork,

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because girls didn't do woodwork.

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But I was allowed to do home economics,

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cos that's what girls did.

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Home economics.

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We were geared up to cleaning ovens and baking

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a Victoria sponge. It was really quite archaic.

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'In the commerce class, for example,

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'there's no frantic squabbling over one battered old typewriter.'

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That's the other thing about the '70s - you could still get hit.

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-That was the other thing.

-No, I don't... They can't do it now.

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-No, in the '70s, darling.

-Oh, yeah, yeah.

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We got caned on a regular basis. It's so barbaric.

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What does that teach you?

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-That you hit people - that's how you get your way. It's awful.

-Yeah.

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People were terrified.

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Outside in the real world, things were tough.

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But me and my friends weren't interested in current affairs.

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The '70s did have a drabness attached to it,

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which seems to be a thing that sort of escaped me, somehow.

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I wasn't particularly aware of how difficult things were.

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There was just always a crisis.

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Funnily enough, I don't remember a whole lot about that.

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It seemed Britain was on the edge.

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Money had to come from foreign banks to bail us out.

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I want to speak to you simply and plainly

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about the grave emergency now facing our country.

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Everyone was saying the unions were running the country.

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But the first I knew about politics was the miners' strike,

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when all the lights went out.

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When you're a kid and the lights go off, it's actually quite exciting. You can get away with more!

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HE CHUCKLES

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I mean, things like Edward Heath, you know, obviously, the miners...

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I remember the rubbish strikes. You know, there was all that.

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But it was kind of going on, you know,

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with all the things, you know, like music,

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and all the things that excited me. They were more important to me.

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I was more interested in myself.

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It's a terrible thing to admit, really.

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We are limiting the use of electricity by almost all factories,

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shops and offices to three days a week.

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You didn't really get much notice that there was going to be a cut

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and it was a mad rush to the local shop, you know, to see

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who could get there first, you know,

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to buy up all the candles.

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If you had a camping stove, you'd fire it up and have

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some hot baked beans and it'd be a bit of an adventure.

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I'm trying to remember what the hell we did,

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you know, with the candles. You'd go to bed!

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The economy was in crisis

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and unemployment was the worst since the War.

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We cannot solve these problems with a divided and embittered nation.

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There seemed to be no kind of hope,

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you know, like, for you, and there was a lack of jobs.

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The company my father worked for kind of went under.

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It was happening everywhere.

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There was a lot of talk about being on the dole.

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My peers would talk about it like that's what they were going to do,

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because that's what their parents did.

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Of course, I was one of them, on the dole.

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You went to the job centre and you got, like, 12 quid.

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Whoopee(!)

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I was only interested in my music -

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an obsession I inherited from my older brother, Richard.

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It was really Richard that had all the Bowie records.

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And I remember when Bowie did the Ziggy thing,

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Richard kind of went off him a bit and went more to Alice Cooper,

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so it was a bit darker. So I inherited Bowie.

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Oh, my God. The record of all records!

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"He swallowed his pride and puckered his lips

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"Showed me the leather belt round his hips."

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I fancied him a little bit in this period. He was quite cute.

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HE CHUCKLES

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# In the corner of the morning in the past. #

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When my brother Richard gave me Bowie's album

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The Man Who Sold The World, I literally wore it out.

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My God.

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Bowie was unique because he was so contradictory in every way.

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Cos he wasn't like the archetypal kind of homosexual or bisexual.

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He wasn't really even that, I don't think.

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I don't think... I don't know what he was.

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MUSIC: Starman by David Bowie

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But for me, yeah, he was everything.

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Absolutely everything.

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# I lean back on my radio-oh-oh... #

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The album came out in 1972

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and that summer, I first saw the alien land on Top Of The Pops.

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It was a lightbulb moment.

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The seminal moment of revelation.

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# There's a star man waiting in the sky... #

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Seeing Bowie doing Starman was a major moment.

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It was aligned to landing on the moon, the Space Race.

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All this technology that was going on.

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# I had to phone someone so I picked on you... #

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You were like, "Oh, wow, this is the alien. This is the outsider."

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And I already knew that I was an outsider.

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I was a gay teenager.

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I could link in with David Bowie straightaway.

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If you did feel like you were somewhat on the outside of

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things, suddenly you belonged to, like, the world of Ziggy Stardust.

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# He told us not to blow it

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# Cos he knows it's all worthwhile. #

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I remember feeling intimidated on some level

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and at the same time fascinated.

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It was like, "My God, I want a lifestyle like that. And I want to be like that."

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# I hear the sound... #

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Hardly any stardust reached Eltham but my brother and his mates were

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always slipping off to a place that sounded a bit like Las Vegas.

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When rock stars came to south London, this is where they

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came to, Lewisham Odeon, which is now a pile of bricks.

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Why did they knock it down?

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Awful sacrilege. I came to see Rod Stewart and the Faces here.

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I came to see David Essex, Blackfoot Sue, Chuck Berry.

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I mean, I was always here.

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If I wasn't at a gig, I'd be at the back of the stage,

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hovering, in the hope that I would see someone famous.

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The biggest gig I ever saw here was in 1972 when I

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was 11 and 11 months old

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and that was Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars,

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which for me was a life-defining moment.

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It really changed everything for me.

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# The films that I made... #

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Even from the back of Lewisham Odeon, David Bowie was bigger

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than he'd been on TV. He created an extraordinary landscape.

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He wore make-up and said he was bisexual.

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# Suck, baby, suck

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# Give me your head... #

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He wasn't ordinary. He was all-powerful, a superhero.

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I knew Ziggy Stardust was the character

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and David Bowie was the performer.

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The clothes and the make-up gave him an edge but when

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he took them off, he was just a boy from south London like me.

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Turned out we lived on the same bus route.

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My older brother, Richard, sent me to the chemist

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to develop some Kodak film and I think

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I was allowed to get some sweets with some of the change.

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So I went off to the local shops in Middle Park with this film

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and I got to the chemist and I was standing outside and I was

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chatting to some friends and it was a really hot day.

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It was about 11 in the morning and as I was talking to these

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friends of mine, I turned around and there was a bus

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and it said Beckenham and I was like...

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"Oh! A bus from Eltham goes to Beckenham," and I just jumped on it.

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All the fans knew that David Bowie lived in Beckenham.

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My friends Jo and Danny have come with me to tread the holy ground.

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Everyone knew that inside David and Angie lolled about in velvet

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jumpsuits, eating space food and getting visits from Lou Reed.

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I'm sure it was there. I know it was on this main road.

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I think this is it. This is where it was.

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-So, this would have been the back garden...

-Wow!

-This area.

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The house was kind of like an Edwardian mansion block.

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He had a flat in it.

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You could see washing on the line so we were contemplating getting over

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and nicking some clothes. "Maybe there's Bowie's pants or something."

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And we were sitting outside most of the day and at some point in

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the afternoon, Angie opened one of the windows and was like,

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"Why don't you all just fuck off?" And we were like, "Oh, my God."

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It was like acknowledgement. It was the highlight of our year.

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But this place is not recognisable.

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The following summer, Ziggy was dead,

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killed off on stage at the Hammersmith Odeon.

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I knew Bowie would be back. He was just changing costume.

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But he left a huge glam vacuum.

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Bowie went off to Berlin, didn't he,

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and sort of disappeared. And there'd be little snippets

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of things in the press and you'd see articles and there would be pictures.

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When he came back in 1976,

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I was at Victoria with the other fans.

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You know, he was wearing...

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It was kind of like a Hollywood collarless shirt.

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Yes, he looked pretty conservative compared to Ziggy but then

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he did Boys Keep Swinging, where he was in drag.

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It always felt like Bowie was one step ahead of everyone.

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Even at the time, I knew he was at the cutting edge

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of the '70s gender debate.

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But it wasn't going on in our family.

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My uncles and aunts, the men, did what they wanted and the women

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kind of cleaned up the mess, basically. That was the '70s.

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Bowie knew that alpha males were an endangered species.

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The new women's libbers wanted to be heard.

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They had outrageous demands - equal pay, equal rights

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and the pill they'd been promised in the '60s.

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I don't think I used the term "women's lib".

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I was always saying to my mum, "Why do you let Dad talk to you like that?

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"Why do you let him treat you like that?"

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Men treat women really badly and women put up with it.

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That's what I remember from being a kid.

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I did have a meeting with my careers officer,

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who said I could be a secretary for a couple of years

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and then I was expected to get married.

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I asked a female relative what a lesbian was and she said,

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"Someone who's not very nice."

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And I also asked, "What's a feminist?"

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And I got the same answer.

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The feminist movement didn't really appeal to me very much.

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Topless festival dancing and things.

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Dishevelled. A bit too feral.

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Some men weren't changing.

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After we moved to the big house,

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I still shared a room with three very, very hetero brothers.

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Here's a picture of me and my boxing brother. Enough said.

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I felt like the only gay in suburbia.

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But '70s TV was full of them.

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You know, in the '70s, you had all these fantastic kind of camp men

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-on TV and nobody ever really said they were gay.

-No.

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It was like, we all knew they were, sort of, obviously not regular guys.

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What did you think about Larry Grayson? Did you think he was gay?

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-I liked him, yeah.

-Did you know he was gay?

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-No, I wouldn't... No.

-Really?

-No.

-You knew

-I

-was gay.

-I didn't...

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Did you know I was gay?

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No. I knew you were different. It made no difference to me.

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-But you used to say I was theatrical.

-I was what?

-Theatrical.

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-Highly strung.

-Of course you were. Yeah, you were.

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And you're still highly strung.

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I thought that was kind of your way of sort of saying, "He's gay."

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-I didn't even know what the word meant.

-Oh, really?

-Yeah.

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-Well, I used to hear it a lot at school, you see.

-Yeah.

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Tried to burn me out. I'd say, "What a gay day."

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If Larry Grayson was on telly, the next day,

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it would all be like, "Shut that door," at school.

0:17:240:17:27

-Yeah.

-It was constant.

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I say, what about this?

0:17:280:17:30

-He was brilliant, wasn't he?

-He was brilliant.

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But you know, a lot of gay men didn't like all those camp icons

0:17:340:17:37

because they felt that they were spoiling it for them.

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Like they were portraying this image of gay people that was very

0:17:400:17:44

effeminate and weak.

0:17:440:17:46

Well, it's too big for a cake.

0:17:460:17:48

And it's too small for a midnight service.

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I loved those people.

0:17:520:17:54

-On TV in the '70s, you only had a certain type of gay man.

-Yeah.

0:17:540:17:56

It was always like, "Shut that door."

0:17:560:17:58

"Oh, look at the muck in here." You know? It was all very camp.

0:17:580:18:01

At Christmas 1975, honesty broke out.

0:18:010:18:05

I'm not merely a stopped clock.

0:18:050:18:08

I'm a stopped grandfather clock.

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The Naked Civil Servant was the story of Quentin Crisp.

0:18:100:18:13

And I remember this was on TV and I was here on my own,

0:18:130:18:17

lying on the floor, watching this show, like, transfixed.

0:18:170:18:20

Because, you know, I thought it all started with Bowie.

0:18:200:18:23

Suddenly, I see this man from, like,

0:18:230:18:25

the 1930s with hennaed hair and make-up.

0:18:250:18:28

You know, outwardly homosexual.

0:18:280:18:30

It was a true story and it blew my mind.

0:18:300:18:33

I couldn't believe it.

0:18:330:18:34

As a kid, I thought Bowie was really brave but then you look at

0:18:340:18:37

what Quentin Crisp did and you think, "That's beyond brave."

0:18:370:18:40

I was the centre of attention,

0:18:400:18:42

without feeling that I was in danger.

0:18:420:18:45

-Do you fancy one of us, then?

-Which one of us do you fancy?

0:18:450:18:48

The other thing about Quentin Crisp was he was apologetic.

0:18:480:18:52

And we were part of a new breed of gay people that were not apologetic.

0:18:520:18:56

We weren't going to apologise for being gay.

0:18:560:18:58

In the '80s, I made a pilgrimage to see Quentin Crisp, here in New York.

0:19:000:19:05

He still thought being gay was a curse.

0:19:050:19:08

That's one reason I loved David Bowie.

0:19:080:19:11

He said it was OK to be gay.

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It had only been legal to be a gay man in England and Wales

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since 1967 and the age of consent was 21.

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I was only 15 but I was already experimenting.

0:19:230:19:26

# In these days of changing ways

0:19:270:19:30

# So-called liberated days

0:19:300:19:32

# A story comes to mind of a friend of mine... #

0:19:320:19:36

My mum actually bought me The Killing of Georgie Parts I and II

0:19:370:19:41

and it was in a paper bag.

0:19:410:19:42

She put it in my sock drawer in my bedroom.

0:19:420:19:45

It was like my mum's way of not talking about it.

0:19:460:19:50

It was like, "I know what's going on." You know?

0:19:500:19:53

And sort of her funny way of kind of accepting it without having

0:19:540:19:58

to get involved in the details of it, you know?

0:19:580:20:02

Because, you know, I was going off to the West End and I was

0:20:020:20:05

running around and I was quite brave and I think it was just

0:20:050:20:09

sort of, "Be careful."

0:20:090:20:11

It was her way of trying to kind of let me know that she was worried

0:20:110:20:15

about me and she sort of understood but didn't understand. You know?

0:20:150:20:20

# Paul said there must be a mistake

0:20:200:20:23

# How can my son not be straight?

0:20:230:20:25

# After all I've said and done for him? #

0:20:250:20:29

I shouldn't be laughing!

0:20:320:20:35

I'm sure my parents had sleepless nights about me being gay

0:20:350:20:39

but I think they were more worried when I left school at 15.

0:20:390:20:42

It couldn't have been a worse time to be looking for work.

0:20:420:20:46

These Sunderland teenagers are already veterans of

0:20:460:20:48

the battle for jobs in Britain's depressed areas,

0:20:480:20:51

where the odds are often 10-1 against employment.

0:20:510:20:54

The dole queue was a bit grim for me.

0:20:540:20:57

I thought I could doss in bed but Mum soon cracked the whip.

0:20:570:21:02

I wanted a job doing something fabulous but I was soon

0:21:020:21:04

stacking shelves in a well-known supermarket.

0:21:040:21:07

Real life was boring but just in the nick of time,

0:21:070:21:10

punk rock came to the rescue.

0:21:100:21:12

Because the old film is so grainy,

0:21:150:21:16

we think of punk as grim and grey but I remember it in

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Technicolor because it kicked off in the boiling summer of 1976.

0:21:200:21:25

That was really the hottest summer of all.

0:21:250:21:28

I'd never known anything like it and it was relentless, every day.

0:21:280:21:32

That kind of sticky horrible heat that goes on and on.

0:21:320:21:36

Everybody's lawn looked like straw.

0:21:360:21:38

I remember I nearly fainted at the bus stop.

0:21:380:21:41

I had a bit of a moment and nearly passed out.

0:21:410:21:44

People were advised to take a bath with a friend.

0:21:440:21:46

The hot summer of '76 was fantastically important

0:21:460:21:50

because this changes everything. Everybody gets out on the street.

0:21:500:21:54

There's a sense of possibility, a sense of openness. And suddenly,

0:21:540:21:58

something can break loose and that's what happened with punk rock.

0:21:580:22:02

The cult is called punk.

0:22:020:22:04

The music, punk rock.

0:22:050:22:06

Raw, outrageous and crude.

0:22:080:22:10

It was a jolt of energy. It was a break with the past.

0:22:150:22:18

It was truly 1970s rock music. The '60s were long gone.

0:22:180:22:23

And everybody was fed up with all the '60s people

0:22:230:22:26

continuing to make albums.

0:22:260:22:28

Punk was designed almost self-consciously to appeal to

0:22:310:22:34

a new generation.

0:22:340:22:35

George turned 16 in 1977 so he was the perfect age for it.

0:22:350:22:39

For me, it was just a very colourful time, you know, a liberated time.

0:22:420:22:46

You felt like you could be part of it. It was an energy

0:22:480:22:51

and an attitude. Musical talent wasn't a big thing.

0:22:510:22:54

The first time the Sex Pistols appeared on TV,

0:22:550:22:58

it was the clothing that the presenter was really interested in.

0:22:580:23:02

Also trying to shock everyone. Your clothes are bizarre.

0:23:020:23:05

What about the word "punk"? If you look it up in a dictionary...

0:23:050:23:07

They're only bizarre to old people.

0:23:070:23:09

They ain't bizarre to young kids.

0:23:090:23:11

Possibly, possibly. I don't have a safety pin through my nose.

0:23:110:23:13

What about the word "punk"?

0:23:130:23:15

It means worthless, nasty.

0:23:150:23:16

Johnny Rotten, are you happy with this word?

0:23:160:23:19

No, the press gave us it.

0:23:190:23:21

It's their problem, not ours. We never called ourselves punk.

0:23:210:23:24

Punk rock enabled intelligent people who hadn't had the advantage

0:23:270:23:31

of an expensive, elite education to become stars.

0:23:310:23:35

For me and my punk mates,

0:23:350:23:37

it wasn't just about the music or pretending to be angry with society.

0:23:370:23:41

We were interested in a new look and a place to see it and buy it

0:23:410:23:45

was on the Kings Road in Chelsea.

0:23:450:23:48

I think that when punk started, to me it was like a fashion thing.

0:23:480:23:51

And it was completely tied to Malcolm McLaren and

0:23:510:23:54

Vivienne Westwood's shop.

0:23:540:23:56

It was a way for them to sell more clothes, I think.

0:23:560:23:58

Vivienne Westwood's shop, it used to be called Seditionaries.

0:23:580:24:02

It's been called Sex. Too Fast To Live, Too Young To Die.

0:24:020:24:05

And now it is World's End.

0:24:050:24:07

And this is where we used to gravitate to on the King's Road.

0:24:070:24:10

We walked the whole, entire length

0:24:100:24:12

of the King's Road to end up at this temple.

0:24:120:24:15

This fashion temple,

0:24:160:24:18

which sold amazing clothes that were really expensive.

0:24:180:24:22

This is where it all happened.

0:24:220:24:24

When the shop was Sex, during the punk era,

0:24:240:24:26

it was really intimidating.

0:24:260:24:28

# Down, down

0:24:280:24:29

# Down down... #

0:24:290:24:31

The BBC sent actor Derek Nimmo in to experience the terror

0:24:310:24:35

on behalf of the nation.

0:24:350:24:38

Erm, hello, Mr Nimmo.

0:24:380:24:39

So, you are right down there in bondage.

0:24:390:24:42

You look so bloody boring. I cannot believe it.

0:24:420:24:45

The point is to change yourself.

0:24:450:24:46

But why? Why does one have to change?

0:24:460:24:48

Because then you'll feel great.

0:24:480:24:50

Myself and Jeremy Healey were in Leicester Square and we saw

0:24:500:24:54

Vivienne and Debbie and they were wearing all the clothes.

0:24:540:24:57

They were wearing orange bondage trousers and we'd never seen it.

0:24:570:25:00

We followed them around Leicester Square.

0:25:000:25:03

We were like, "Look at those shoes!"

0:25:030:25:05

We were like literally obsessed.

0:25:050:25:07

I eventually got the whole thing but I wanted the trousers to start with.

0:25:070:25:11

The trousers were the kill. They were like the most important thing.

0:25:110:25:14

My dad used to gamble. He'd say, "Don't tell your mother."

0:25:140:25:16

"Of course I'm going to keep quiet but there's a pair of trousers I want." Anyway, so I got them.

0:25:160:25:20

I used to live in them.

0:25:200:25:22

They could have walked on their own, they were so dirty.

0:25:220:25:24

So, no new hats?

0:25:240:25:26

Of course, punk was about kicking against the system.

0:25:260:25:28

At 60 quid, your Westwood T-shirt was more about submission

0:25:280:25:32

than sedition. Avarice in the UK.

0:25:320:25:34

Punk originally had this sort of like idea of presenting yourself

0:25:340:25:39

in a way that represented your uniqueness,

0:25:390:25:42

creating your own individual look.

0:25:420:25:46

An anti-fashion statement.

0:25:460:25:48

Club creature Philip Sallon was the Queen of DIY couture.

0:25:480:25:52

Global Village is now Heaven, which is virtually the biggest club

0:25:520:25:55

in London, and I'd never been before.

0:25:550:25:58

And then I stripped off and I had a bin liner on, chains and bare legs.

0:25:580:26:02

And the bouncers dragged me out of there.

0:26:020:26:04

They said within six weeks, the whole club was wearing bin liners.

0:26:040:26:07

One of the standard symbols of punk became the safety pin.

0:26:070:26:11

You know, that was really, like, never been seen before.

0:26:110:26:14

All of a sudden, you could pick up

0:26:140:26:16

a sink plug and wear that as an earring. Or a tampon.

0:26:160:26:20

If you wanted to put a cushion on your head

0:26:200:26:23

and tie it up with a bit of ribbon and go out like that, you could.

0:26:230:26:27

Promenading down the King's Road was really crucial.

0:26:270:26:30

It was all about saying something about yourself through your clothes.

0:26:300:26:34

And remember, we didn't have social networking

0:26:340:26:37

so we did our talking on our bodies.

0:26:370:26:40

But your clothes could also get you into a lot of trouble.

0:26:450:26:48

Around every corner, there was someone from another fashion tribe,

0:26:480:26:51

just waiting to knock your teeth out.

0:26:510:26:53

Teddy boys on one side, punks on the other.

0:26:530:26:57

And they punch each other and scream and it was like anarchy.

0:26:570:27:01

England in the mid-to-late '70s was an incredibly violent place.

0:27:010:27:05

You went to school, you got hit. You went home, you got it.

0:27:050:27:08

-Officers could hit you.

-And of course, you had skinheads.

0:27:080:27:10

They would actually wait at the station for people to come

0:27:100:27:13

off that train and give them a good hiding.

0:27:130:27:15

My dad used to carry a big monkey wrench in his car and

0:27:150:27:18

if someone cut him up, he'd get out and they'd have fights.

0:27:180:27:20

Everyone talked about the Millwall brick, which was

0:27:200:27:23

a rolled-up newspaper that you'd jam into someone's throat.

0:27:230:27:26

I remember the atmosphere of constant violence and it

0:27:260:27:28

could erupt at any moment. It was everywhere.

0:27:280:27:31

Thugs didn't really need much of a reason to lash out.

0:27:330:27:36

Seeing someone not being manly was a red flag.

0:27:360:27:39

It wasn't a gay-friendly time. It was a world away,

0:27:390:27:42

as far as gay rights and gay consciousness goes.

0:27:420:27:45

Walk around the way that I did, knowing that there were loads

0:27:450:27:49

of people that wanted to punch my face in. Straight blokes,

0:27:490:27:52

just because they didn't like the fact you were dressed up,

0:27:520:27:55

rock 'n' roll guys that didn't like the fact you were a punk rocker.

0:27:550:27:58

There were so many people that wanted to punch you.

0:27:580:28:01

Old ladies would hit you with their handbags.

0:28:010:28:04

This is such a timeless record.

0:28:040:28:06

# Your face when sleeping...

0:28:090:28:12

# Is sublime... #

0:28:120:28:14

In the safety of my own home, I could listen to music by people who

0:28:140:28:17

not only said being different was OK, it might actually be better.

0:28:170:28:22

# Then comes pancake factor number one... #

0:28:220:28:27

The most famous track on this album at the time

0:28:270:28:29

was Walk On The Wild Side.

0:28:290:28:30

I think it was just really revolutionary, that song.

0:28:300:28:33

# Holly came from Miami FLA... #

0:28:390:28:43

Bowie, Lou Reed and Nico evoked Bohemia.

0:28:430:28:46

They took us to racy places where the lights were low

0:28:460:28:50

and the company was dubious.

0:28:500:28:52

# She says hey, babe, take a walk on the wild side

0:28:520:28:56

# I said hey, honey, take a walk on the wild side... #

0:28:560:29:00

Since I was 14, I'd been trawling London's West End with the red bus rover.

0:29:000:29:06

If you're a London adolescent and you want action,

0:29:060:29:09

you gravitate to Soho.

0:29:090:29:10

Certainly back then, there were all the sex shops, the prostitutes.

0:29:100:29:14

There were people offering you drugs.

0:29:140:29:16

You don't necessarily want to sample it but it's

0:29:160:29:18

a very exciting atmosphere, illicit atmosphere.

0:29:180:29:21

Soho wasn't the suburbs.

0:29:250:29:28

It was full of dodgy adults but also freaks like me.

0:29:280:29:32

The beautiful and the dammed, kids on the run and on the game.

0:29:320:29:35

Philip Sallon was the queen of everything, La Reine Du Drame.

0:29:370:29:41

He would dress you up and dress you down.

0:29:410:29:43

He was my teacher and my tormentor.

0:29:430:29:46

One of the first places I ever went to with Philip Sallon was this

0:29:460:29:49

place that was called Madame Louise's. There's still a peephole

0:29:490:29:53

and you come up, knock and they would open the little shutter,

0:29:530:29:56

give you the once over and then you'd either get in or not get in.

0:29:560:30:00

Hello.

0:30:000:30:01

Philip was a huge influence on me as a kid.

0:30:010:30:04

I mean, he was the first bone fide eccentric that I ever met.

0:30:040:30:08

Not just in the way that he dressed, but in the way that he thought.

0:30:080:30:11

Oh.

0:30:110:30:13

Well, it's changed here.

0:30:130:30:15

The same size, but just different, isn't it?

0:30:150:30:18

This was the dance floor here, anyway.

0:30:180:30:20

I remember the DJ was in that corner.

0:30:200:30:22

We came down here

0:30:220:30:24

and I remember we sat down over there.

0:30:240:30:26

That was the seats there.

0:30:260:30:28

And we were, like, looking at the dance floor.

0:30:280:30:30

It was all full of blokes dancing.

0:30:300:30:31

There were all these blokes in suits and ties and everything.

0:30:310:30:34

And it turned out the whole lot of them were women.

0:30:340:30:36

There wasn't one man there!

0:30:360:30:38

We'd been fooled!

0:30:380:30:39

I remember Malcolm McLaren and the Sex Pistols,

0:30:390:30:42

I used to start signing them in, I think it was every week.

0:30:420:30:45

The King's Road trendies, they started moving in bit by bit.

0:30:450:30:48

And as they moved in, the lesbos moved out.

0:30:480:30:51

So you could say I was responsible for the death of Louise's.

0:30:510:30:55

This is where people like Siouxsie Sioux, Johnny Rotten,

0:30:550:30:58

Billy Idol came.

0:30:580:31:00

I suppose the attraction was the kind of mix of people, you know.

0:31:000:31:04

It was all so wrong and so right.

0:31:040:31:07

Philip dragged me through the looking glass into Wonderland.

0:31:090:31:12

I wanted to go, because gay clubs were full of lumberjacks,

0:31:120:31:16

and straight clubs were equally vanilla.

0:31:160:31:18

People forget...

0:31:180:31:20

that you had to wear a shirt and tie and beige

0:31:200:31:23

to get into most clubs pre, you know, pre the '80s.

0:31:230:31:27

Maybe a gig to go to and then you'd have to sort of scurry around

0:31:270:31:32

and try and find somewhere to go after,

0:31:320:31:34

so you'd end up at the Sombrero or Louise's.

0:31:340:31:37

The only clubs that were interesting were the gay clubs,

0:31:370:31:39

cos they were quite glamorous, and real stars people would come there.

0:31:390:31:43

In those days, you were just wandering aimlessly

0:31:430:31:46

and then you met someone like Philip Sallon,

0:31:460:31:48

and he took you into your crowd, and then you felt comfortable.

0:31:480:31:52

And there were all this kind of, like,

0:31:520:31:55

"He was a she and she said,

0:31:550:31:57

" 'Hey, babe, take a walk on the wild side.' "

0:31:570:32:00

So, you were young and you wanted to experience things and get out.

0:32:000:32:05

Even under the protection of my freak godfather,

0:32:070:32:10

the gay underworld was dangerous.

0:32:100:32:13

There were drinks and drugs and predators.

0:32:130:32:16

Soho was frisky and often risky.

0:32:160:32:19

And some people really didn't love their neighbour.

0:32:190:32:22

Equal rights does not entitle nig-nogs to move next door.

0:32:220:32:24

Ahh!

0:32:240:32:26

Love Thy Neighbour was hideous.

0:32:260:32:28

I mean, once that was on, the next day at school,

0:32:280:32:31

you would get slaughtered by people verbally.

0:32:310:32:34

I wish to make a complaint against a nig-nog.

0:32:340:32:36

It was all that "nig-nog this" and...

0:32:360:32:39

And then people would just repeat it in school

0:32:390:32:41

and not even think about it.

0:32:410:32:42

-Are they treating you all right, Sambo?

-Oh, no complaints.

0:32:420:32:45

-What was this one?

-Love Thy Neighbour.

-Yeah.

0:32:450:32:48

You blackies are well catered for

0:32:480:32:49

when it comes to handling yourselves.

0:32:490:32:51

I couldn't understand racism.

0:32:510:32:53

I think that's the thing about the '70s.

0:32:530:32:55

We weren't aware of how wrong it was.

0:32:550:32:57

When I was a kid, things like Love Thy Neighbour, those types of shows,

0:32:570:33:01

I really would never watch them.

0:33:010:33:03

To me, it was like the opposite of everything I wanted to be.

0:33:030:33:06

It's only in hindsight that I'm aware of the language that was used.

0:33:060:33:09

But then, you know, you'd hear it at school.

0:33:090:33:11

You know, it was very common.

0:33:110:33:13

In the '70s, it was more the sort of Indian kids

0:33:130:33:16

that would get picked on.

0:33:160:33:17

I remember seeing, like, Indian kids having their turbans pulled off

0:33:170:33:20

and all of that, and that used to really upset me.

0:33:200:33:23

I mean, Jamaican kids were tough,

0:33:230:33:24

so nobody bothered the Jamaican kids at school,

0:33:240:33:27

cos they just hit you!

0:33:270:33:28

# On a wonderful day like today

0:33:280:33:32

# I defy any cloud to appear in the sky... #

0:33:320:33:36

If my grandmother came to stay,

0:33:360:33:38

she'd want to watch the Black And White Minstrel Show,

0:33:380:33:40

which is just kind of, like, mind-boggling.

0:33:400:33:42

# She was afraid to come out in the open... #

0:33:420:33:46

Those of you who like a bit of irony will enjoy hearing

0:33:460:33:49

that this was one of the first programmes broadcast in colour.

0:33:490:33:53

It was once the most popular show on TV.

0:33:530:33:57

But by the mid-'70s, people wanted something a bit more sophisticated.

0:33:570:34:01

-I'm sick!

-Oh, dear.

0:34:010:34:03

I'm working at the moment... not anywhere at all.

0:34:060:34:09

They called this light entertainment.

0:34:100:34:13

But to fascists, this was reality TV.

0:34:130:34:16

We'll carry on marching like a great army

0:34:160:34:19

towards the Britain of our dreams.

0:34:190:34:22

CHEERING

0:34:220:34:25

-CHANTING:

-National Front. National Front.

0:34:250:34:27

I was never nationalistic.

0:34:270:34:29

My colours were red, gold and green.

0:34:290:34:32

I was for inclusion, not exclusion.

0:34:320:34:34

But apparently, plenty of people thought Britain

0:34:340:34:36

was being swamped by immigrants.

0:34:360:34:38

Right-winger Enoch Powell

0:34:390:34:41

was the most popular politician in Britain.

0:34:410:34:43

He won BBC Man of the Year twice.

0:34:430:34:46

You had to learn how to run.

0:34:460:34:48

People would just come up and punch you in the face, spit at you,

0:34:480:34:52

throw things out of cars at you.

0:34:520:34:54

I'm the daughter of a Hungarian man.

0:34:540:34:57

I was considered "foreign".

0:34:570:34:59

I remember our next-door neighbours didn't talk to us

0:34:590:35:02

for, like, ten years.

0:35:020:35:03

I can remember being on the train and all the football fans got on

0:35:030:35:06

and everyone was abusing us.

0:35:060:35:08

They were even getting their children to abuse us.

0:35:080:35:10

Lewisham was proper rough in the '70s,

0:35:100:35:12

but it was also a place of contradictions.

0:35:120:35:14

You had people giving out National Front leaflets,

0:35:140:35:16

you had a big black community.

0:35:160:35:18

-CHANTING:

-National Front. National Front.

0:35:180:35:21

As a gay man, I was well aware of the National Front,

0:35:210:35:23

and they had one of their biggest ever marches here in Lewisham.

0:35:230:35:26

It was, like, the biggest turnout for them ever in the '70s,

0:35:260:35:29

which was quite scary,

0:35:290:35:31

because after they got rid of the foreigners, we were next.

0:35:310:35:34

-MAN:

-Immigration.

-CROWD:

-No.

0:35:350:35:38

-MAN:

-Repatriation.

-CROWD:

-Yes.

0:35:380:35:40

The National Front tried to incite the working class,

0:35:400:35:43

fuelling bitterness and division.

0:35:430:35:46

To me and my friends, the minorities under attack

0:35:460:35:48

gave this country something wonderful.

0:35:480:35:51

They were also our classmates.

0:35:510:35:53

My secondary school was like the United Nations,

0:35:530:35:55

and thanks to my dad, our house was like the Culture Club.

0:35:550:35:59

I didn't grow up in a racist household. My dad was a builder.

0:36:000:36:04

So this house was just full of, like, Jamaicans, Indians,

0:36:040:36:08

every type of person.

0:36:080:36:09

-I'd come down sometimes to get breakfast...

-Yeah.

0:36:090:36:12

..and the kitchen would be full of...

0:36:120:36:14

like, cast of thousands, you know.

0:36:140:36:16

It was funny, I'd kind of walk into the kitchen with blue hair

0:36:160:36:18

and there'd be, like, a Rasta sitting there, having a cup of tea.

0:36:180:36:21

MUSIC: Everything I Own by Ken Boothe

0:36:210:36:25

Reggae, for me, began with Ken Boothe, Everything I Own,

0:36:270:36:32

which I went on to have a hit with myself years later.

0:36:320:36:36

Things like Susan Cadogan, Hurt So Good.

0:36:360:36:38

MUSIC PLAYS

0:36:380:36:40

# First you take my heart in the palm of your hands

0:36:400:36:43

# And you squeeze it tight... #

0:36:430:36:44

Reggae is so much a part of growing up in Britain.

0:36:460:36:49

It's important as, you know, curry.

0:36:490:36:51

As soon as I heard, like, lovers rock in the '70s,

0:36:510:36:55

it just clicked with me.

0:36:550:36:57

You know what I mean? I was just like...

0:36:570:37:00

Just got it straightaway.

0:37:000:37:02

MUSIC: Stir It Up

0:37:020:37:04

Lovers rock was a very London kind of reggae sound.

0:37:040:37:08

In Birmingham, they made something harder, more righteous.

0:37:080:37:11

I moved up there in 1979, but not for the music.

0:37:130:37:17

I had a broken heart and a kind offer from a fellow freak.

0:37:170:37:20

MUSIC: Love Missile F1-11 by Sigue Sigue Sputnik

0:37:240:37:26

In the '80s, Martin Degville would go into orbit

0:37:260:37:28

with Sigue Sigue Sputnik.

0:37:280:37:30

# There goes my love rocket red... #

0:37:300:37:33

Back then, he was just a weirdo from Walsall.

0:37:330:37:36

Martin was one of the most outrageous people I'd ever met,

0:37:360:37:39

who was wearing stiletto heels and these big footballer shoulder pads.

0:37:390:37:43

He looked like an Alsatian from outer space!

0:37:430:37:46

I first set eyes on Martin at the seaside.

0:37:460:37:49

I was in Bournemouth, wandering around the street,

0:37:490:37:51

and I saw this thing across the road.

0:37:510:37:54

# Shoot it up! #

0:37:540:37:56

And I just targeted him.

0:37:560:37:58

I was like, "I've got to make friends with him."

0:37:580:38:00

Now, guys, this is Goodall Street, where I used to live.

0:38:000:38:03

I fell out with this bloke I was going out with

0:38:030:38:05

and it sort of got nasty,

0:38:050:38:07

and so I asked Martin if I could go and stay with him in Walsall

0:38:070:38:10

for a few weeks, which turned into almost a year.

0:38:100:38:14

This is the fabulous place...

0:38:140:38:16

It was a fantastic time.

0:38:160:38:18

That used to be George's space.

0:38:180:38:20

For me, I think Martin's one of the real original kind of freaks.

0:38:200:38:23

You know, he kind of changed things. He was quite important, I think.

0:38:230:38:26

He was also part of my kind of freak education!

0:38:260:38:30

Hello!

0:38:300:38:32

Now the area's gone posh. It's a curtain shop.

0:38:330:38:37

In 1979, it was far less luxurious.

0:38:370:38:40

So this was my part.

0:38:400:38:43

And down here was George's part.

0:38:430:38:45

I was like the housemaid. I used to clean the place.

0:38:450:38:48

You know, all my parties, people coming and going,

0:38:480:38:53

orgies.

0:38:530:38:54

Martin had a shop in the Bullring called Degville's Dispensary,

0:38:540:38:56

and I worked there pretty much every day

0:38:560:38:59

while he made clothes.

0:38:590:39:01

I used to keep all my takings from the shop...

0:39:010:39:04

one of the floorboards in my bedroom.

0:39:040:39:07

And so one day I came back

0:39:070:39:09

and the whole of my takings had disappeared.

0:39:090:39:12

He didn't pay very much, so I used to sort of steal

0:39:120:39:14

from under the floorboards to sort of, you know...

0:39:140:39:17

pop up my wages a bit.

0:39:170:39:19

It would've been around here. It was quite a lot, as well.

0:39:210:39:23

£200, £300 at that time.

0:39:230:39:25

# You've gotta pick a pocket or two!

0:39:250:39:28

# You've gotta pick a pocket or two, boy... #

0:39:280:39:32

I demand the living wage!

0:39:320:39:34

# You've got to pick a pocket or two. #

0:39:340:39:36

The flat was always full of music.

0:39:360:39:39

Bowie, Lou Reed, Cabaret Voltaire, Linton Kwesi Johnson,

0:39:390:39:43

and, of course, the local speciality.

0:39:430:39:46

SKA MUSIC PLAYS

0:39:460:39:48

I used to listen to a lot of ska music.

0:39:520:39:57

You know, like the Trojan, like, collections.

0:39:570:40:00

You know, I took him to see reggae bands,

0:40:000:40:03

you know, UB40, you know, being one of them.

0:40:030:40:06

I remember going to see UB40 at the Crown in Birmingham,

0:40:060:40:09

and also to see The Beat.

0:40:090:40:11

There was this kind of marriage of reggae and punk.

0:40:110:40:15

You'd see bands like Steel Pulse,

0:40:150:40:17

you know, and then you had characters like Jah Wobble.

0:40:170:40:20

With his first release, Do You Really Want To Hurt Me,

0:40:200:40:23

it had really sort of, like, you know, big reggae undertones to it,

0:40:230:40:27

you know, which I know sort of, like, I probably inspired him.

0:40:270:40:31

Back in London, the heat was going out of punk.

0:40:330:40:37

What happened with punk,

0:40:370:40:38

quite quickly it became a mainstream style

0:40:380:40:43

and lots of lads came in.

0:40:430:40:45

All the moshing started.

0:40:450:40:47

It was fairly grim.

0:40:490:40:50

And so I could understand why somebody like George

0:40:520:40:55

got fed up with it.

0:40:550:40:56

My friend Marilyn had been a punk princess, poop poopy doo.

0:40:560:41:00

Together we watched the glamour evaporate.

0:41:000:41:03

I remember going to a punk gig. It was Gang Of Four.

0:41:030:41:08

I was doing this kind of Siouxsie Sioux look.

0:41:080:41:10

I had, like, the frilly shirt and heavy make-up and the spiky hair.

0:41:100:41:14

But it wasn't really punk. It was something more than punk.

0:41:140:41:16

And I remember somebody throwing a beer over me

0:41:160:41:19

and kind of ruining my hair.

0:41:190:41:20

And I suddenly thought, "Well, this is not a scene I want to be part of.

0:41:200:41:24

"This is just not for me."

0:41:240:41:25

So there were people that were into punk

0:41:250:41:28

that kind of had a lot of fun with it to begin with,

0:41:280:41:30

then it became very sort of studenty, violent, spitting,

0:41:300:41:33

all of that, pogoing,

0:41:330:41:35

and then we kind of departed over here.

0:41:350:41:37

There was this kind of a lull in the scene

0:41:370:41:40

and there didn't seem to be anything going on.

0:41:400:41:42

It seemed like a sort of page was turning.

0:41:420:41:44

You started seeing parodies of it on television,

0:41:440:41:46

maybe Freddie Starr or people dressed up like a punk.

0:41:460:41:49

Then we kind of knew it was dying.

0:41:490:41:51

There was a sort of new wave of people coming through.

0:41:510:41:54

So here we are in Meard Street,

0:41:570:41:59

which is this little road between Wardour Street and Dean Street,

0:41:590:42:02

and this is a legendary place for a few reasons.

0:42:020:42:05

Over there on the left used to be a very famous kind of brothel

0:42:050:42:08

called the Golden Girls Club.

0:42:080:42:10

All the hookers used to hang out of the window and scream at us

0:42:100:42:12

when we used to walk by.

0:42:120:42:14

And then here, the doorway of the legendary nightclub - Billy's.

0:42:140:42:19

This was a rundown 1970s club

0:42:190:42:22

that Steve Strange and Rusty Egan took over on Tuesday night

0:42:220:42:25

and turned into this one-nighter event.

0:42:250:42:28

And this sort of phenomena started in the '70s

0:42:280:42:30

with people like Steve and Rusty, Chris Sullivan,

0:42:300:42:33

taking over these rundown clubs that no-one was going to any more

0:42:330:42:36

and putting on these sort of nights for our crowd.

0:42:360:42:40

This was only open for 12 weeks.

0:42:400:42:42

It was the shortest lifespan of any of those clubs.

0:42:420:42:45

It's been more than three decades since club runner Rusty Egan

0:42:470:42:50

went down these stairs.

0:42:500:42:52

I printed up some flyers, Tuesday night, 10.30 till 3.30am,

0:42:520:42:58

and we gave them, personally, to people.

0:42:580:43:01

What have they done to my club?

0:43:010:43:03

Turned it into a kitchen.

0:43:040:43:05

Wow. 1978.

0:43:060:43:08

Yeah, it was only about this big.

0:43:080:43:10

You would walk into here, 10, 10.30,

0:43:100:43:14

maybe Kraftwerk playing,

0:43:140:43:17

Bowie, some really down, ambient music.

0:43:170:43:22

Probably looked like the bar from Star Wars. Ha!

0:43:220:43:25

A collection of people which included Boy George.

0:43:250:43:28

Philip Sallon, Steve Strange were the reception.

0:43:280:43:32

And there were some alcoves, some little alcoves you could get into.

0:43:320:43:35

And then the DJ was against the far wall.

0:43:350:43:38

It got very popular. Overcrowded, in fact.

0:43:380:43:41

You met some of those people that you might have seen at David Bowie,

0:43:410:43:43

you might have seen at a Siouxsie gig,

0:43:430:43:45

you might have seen at X-Ray Spex.

0:43:450:43:47

And then me in the DJ booth

0:43:470:43:48

playing all their favourite Bowie and Roxy,

0:43:480:43:51

and then dropping Human League.

0:43:510:43:53

First ever... Electricity by OMD.

0:43:530:43:56

Emergent electronica.

0:43:560:43:58

It was nice to start hearing the Human League

0:43:580:44:00

and all these new bands that were coming out.

0:44:000:44:02

The soundtrack reflected what we were interested in.

0:44:020:44:05

Snapping away and recalling history was art student Nicola Tyson.

0:44:050:44:10

I'd just get the prints developed at Boots

0:44:100:44:12

and then bring them down the following week

0:44:120:44:14

and try and sell them for beer money.

0:44:140:44:16

But that wasn't very successful.

0:44:160:44:17

Up here there's pictures of George, I think that's with Andy.

0:44:170:44:21

There's Steve Strange.

0:44:210:44:23

I can't remember exactly where I met George,

0:44:230:44:26

although he would come to Billy's in sort of white Pan Stik make-up.

0:44:260:44:30

Here we've got Marilyn with a kind of Jordan hairdo.

0:44:300:44:33

Philip Sallon. Philip's policeman's hat.

0:44:330:44:36

Little Simon Le Bon one there.

0:44:380:44:40

There's Andy Polaris.

0:44:400:44:42

You slowly start seeing individuals influencing each other

0:44:420:44:46

with hair colour, more extreme make-up.

0:44:460:44:50

And I think probably as well,

0:44:500:44:52

people started seeing people who were like,

0:44:520:44:54

"Oh, they actually look a bit better than me.

0:44:540:44:56

"Next week when I come down there,

0:44:560:44:58

"my hair's going to be three colours, not one colour."

0:44:580:45:01

Billy's itself was sort of almost like a clip joint.

0:45:010:45:05

The trans contingent of regulars that would go down there.

0:45:050:45:10

Living the nightlife to the full

0:45:120:45:13

sometimes meant missing the last train or bus back to the suburbs.

0:45:130:45:17

Luckily for us, the '70s were the squat years.

0:45:170:45:21

In the mid-'70s, London was very rundown, quite poor.

0:45:210:45:24

Old property going to be pulled down.

0:45:240:45:27

And then the money arrived.

0:45:270:45:28

In that gap, you had the emergence of squatting.

0:45:280:45:32

Here we are in Carburton Street.

0:45:320:45:34

Now, this street was full of these beautiful Georgian houses

0:45:340:45:38

that had been demolished

0:45:380:45:40

and they built this, which is such a tragedy,

0:45:400:45:42

but this is where we squatted.

0:45:420:45:43

This corner here was our squat.

0:45:430:45:45

And we lived here for about a year and a half in this house

0:45:460:45:52

with various characters, you know.

0:45:520:45:54

And one of those characters is over here.

0:45:540:45:57

THEY LAUGH

0:45:570:45:58

And this is the doorway where we did our famous picture.

0:45:580:46:01

-Do you want to do your pose?

-I can't remember what it is.

0:46:010:46:03

I think I was just like that and you were going...

0:46:030:46:05

You were doing one of your Marilyn poses.

0:46:050:46:07

I first met Marilyn in 1977.

0:46:090:46:12

We've been friends for 40 years, falling in, falling out,

0:46:120:46:16

falling in, falling out!

0:46:160:46:18

-Do you remember the cute guys that used to live round here?

-Yeah.

0:46:180:46:21

Yeah! These ones.

0:46:210:46:22

So, this corner house was the sort of second location where we moved

0:46:220:46:26

but, originally, we lived just along here.

0:46:260:46:29

We were somewhere here.

0:46:290:46:31

And I lived on the first floor.

0:46:320:46:35

And one of the funny things about me

0:46:350:46:37

was that I had two rooms on the first floor,

0:46:370:46:40

and I rented one of my rooms out to some French bloke.

0:46:400:46:42

I was like a landlady. It was genius.

0:46:420:46:45

And people would say, "How can you squat and make someone pay rent?"

0:46:450:46:47

I said, "Well, he wants somewhere to live."

0:46:470:46:49

So I was very enterprising.

0:46:490:46:51

My parents kind of came up to drop off some shopping,

0:46:510:46:53

cos they worried about me.

0:46:530:46:55

They brought food one night.

0:46:550:46:56

My dad brought a credit card and he kind of undid the lock

0:46:560:46:59

and he put food in the cupboard.

0:46:590:47:00

But I'd kind of decorated my bedroom with all these naked photos of men,

0:47:000:47:05

so my mum and dad left me a note - "Lovely wallpaper."

0:47:050:47:08

Do you remember that outside toilet?

0:47:080:47:10

That had no roof on it, so you'd be in the toilet

0:47:100:47:12

and people would be up at the windows, throwing things

0:47:120:47:14

and going, "How long are you going to be?"

0:47:140:47:16

And it's just like, "Oh, God!"

0:47:160:47:17

We had no water, but we had electricity

0:47:170:47:19

cos my boyfriend managed to kind of fix the wires, and so we had lights.

0:47:190:47:23

There was two brothers that lived just up here,

0:47:230:47:25

and they had hot water.

0:47:250:47:26

And I went out with one of the brothers.

0:47:260:47:28

-And I went out with the other one.

-Dave.

-And Steven. Steve.

0:47:280:47:32

-David and Steven. And we used to go to their house to have baths.

-Yeah!

0:47:320:47:35

And when we couldn't go there to have baths,

0:47:350:47:37

we'd go to the hotel sometimes and wash in the toilets.

0:47:370:47:40

-And this is where we lived for about a year or so.

-Not this.

0:47:400:47:43

-No, it was much nicer than this.

-Mm.

-Yeah.

0:47:430:47:46

It was bonkers.

0:47:460:47:48

We were growing up, or trying to.

0:47:510:47:53

Punk had been a beautiful distraction, but we were moving on.

0:47:530:47:56

It was still all about dressing up, but now we wanted glamour,

0:47:570:48:01

tungsten lighting, punks in paint.

0:48:010:48:04

Clubbing, you know, living hand-to-mouth,

0:48:040:48:07

getting up at two in the afternoon, putting your face on, going out.

0:48:070:48:11

You know, it was... It was a very hedonistic time.

0:48:110:48:15

People were expressing themselves in a different way

0:48:150:48:18

that was very stark.

0:48:180:48:20

I just wanted to be myself and express myself,

0:48:200:48:22

you know, the way I looked, my creativity.

0:48:220:48:25

There was a feeling of anything goes.

0:48:250:48:27

In terms of style, we were fearless.

0:48:270:48:29

It was never about just one look.

0:48:290:48:31

Variety was the vice of life.

0:48:310:48:33

I would see sort of Roman gladiators, men in capes.

0:48:330:48:38

I can remember my brother getting arrested wearing hot pants,

0:48:380:48:40

plastic sandals and a space gun.

0:48:400:48:43

You couldn't afford to make stuff with nice lace like that.

0:48:430:48:45

-Where did you get that?

-It's my nan's.

0:48:450:48:47

Philip Sallon, he would go out in a wedding dress.

0:48:470:48:50

When you go out with Philip, like, on the town,

0:48:500:48:52

he would, like, bring bags of clothes

0:48:520:48:54

and he'd constantly be changing outfits.

0:48:540:48:56

It got to the point where I was turning up with suitcases

0:48:560:48:59

and changing all night long.

0:48:590:49:01

I know it's tragic.

0:49:010:49:02

Green eyeshadow, green blusher and green lips.

0:49:020:49:06

Being first with the look was vital.

0:49:060:49:09

Even dear friends like Jeremy Haysi Fantayzee Healy

0:49:090:49:12

would become a sworn enemy if you stole their eyebrows

0:49:120:49:14

or their hairdo.

0:49:140:49:16

It was very, like, competitive.

0:49:160:49:18

If you copied something that someone else had done...

0:49:180:49:21

-Oh, they'd cut you.

-Fights.

-Cut your clothes off.

0:49:210:49:23

-Drinks thrown.

-Spitting.

0:49:230:49:25

And what about the kilt? There was this one time...

0:49:250:49:27

-Yeah, but that's you.

-No, but you as well.

0:49:270:49:29

There was that time... Remember when you got dreadlocks?

0:49:290:49:33

-Yeah.

-Who had them first?

0:49:330:49:35

-Jeremy.

-No!

0:49:350:49:36

THEY LAUGH

0:49:360:49:39

I would be in a club and somebody would kind of go,

0:49:410:49:44

"I think Boy George is coming tonight,"

0:49:440:49:45

and there would be excitement, like, "What's he wearing?"

0:49:450:49:48

George used make-up in such a sort of striking way.

0:49:480:49:52

You can see all those, like, inspirations

0:49:520:49:55

from the glamour moment, from the Bowie moment,

0:49:550:49:58

from the Lindsay Kemp moment.

0:49:580:49:59

He'd be dressed as a nun, something like that!

0:49:590:50:02

We didn't call ourselves New Romantics.

0:50:020:50:04

That was the sort of newspaper term.

0:50:040:50:07

But it was a small scene with a massive ego.

0:50:070:50:09

200 people at the most.

0:50:090:50:11

But really publicity hungry, you know,

0:50:110:50:14

we wanted people to know about us.

0:50:140:50:15

But it wasn't a lot of people, you know,

0:50:150:50:17

in terms of its kind of cultural impact.

0:50:170:50:19

It kind of grew into what we did in the '80s,

0:50:190:50:22

all the bands, you know, Duran Duran in Birmingham,

0:50:220:50:25

Culture Club, Spandau Ballet.

0:50:250:50:27

It grew into something bigger, you know.

0:50:270:50:29

But actually, the root of it was this tiny little crowd of people

0:50:290:50:34

who were sort of full of their own self-importance.

0:50:340:50:38

Of which I was one!

0:50:390:50:40

You've changed!

0:50:420:50:43

In February '79, we had somewhere new to go.

0:50:450:50:48

Steve Strange and Rusty Egan's new club - the Blitz.

0:50:480:50:52

Steve was brutal on the door.

0:50:520:50:54

Talk about kill to dress.

0:50:540:50:56

It's about fashion, it's about looks.

0:50:570:51:01

I mean, the men dress outrageous, the women dress outrageous.

0:51:010:51:04

Spending hours dressing up beforehand.

0:51:040:51:07

Steve would be at the door looking you up and down.

0:51:070:51:11

Whatever their look is, they've got to have a look to get through the door.

0:51:110:51:14

So when you went into this club,

0:51:140:51:16

I'd be playing Warszawa, you know, the B-side of Low.

0:51:160:51:19

You know, "mmmmm-uhhh".

0:51:190:51:22

People like Siouxsie Sioux strutting about,

0:51:220:51:26

Jordan, obviously, Soo Catwoman,

0:51:260:51:28

like, all these people who looked just incredible.

0:51:280:51:31

It got busier and busier and busier, and then I'd play...

0:51:310:51:34

Duh-dunnn!

0:51:340:51:35

MUSIC: Being Boiled by The Human League

0:51:350:51:37

OK, are you ready?

0:51:370:51:38

HE MIMICS THE BEAT

0:51:380:51:40

# Listen to the voice of Buddha... # The Human League.

0:51:430:51:47

And that was it - they started to dance. "Oh, the beat."

0:51:470:51:49

And it was like a soundtrack. It was like, "Yes!"

0:51:490:51:52

Telex, Kraftwerk, Human League, Ultravox, Lou Reed, David Bowie,

0:51:520:51:57

loads of Bowie, more Bowie, more Roxy, Siouxsie And The Banshees.

0:51:570:52:00

Dun dun dun dun-dun-d... Yeah, we'll have that.

0:52:000:52:03

You know, Marc Bolan, yeah, we'll have that.

0:52:030:52:06

So, basically, I sort of mixed and matched the best of the cultures.

0:52:060:52:11

Almost everybody was either an artist, a fashion designer

0:52:110:52:14

or they were in a band.

0:52:140:52:16

People who all had big dreams, big ambition,

0:52:160:52:19

and drive, and were networking.

0:52:190:52:21

It was multicultural, it was multisexual.

0:52:210:52:25

A quite extreme core of people looking to the future.

0:52:250:52:31

The future had suddenly arrived. It was time to get to work.

0:52:310:52:35

All of my friends were, like, getting jobs.

0:52:350:52:38

Everyone around me was like, "What's he going to do?"

0:52:380:52:40

And I was just doing... Carrying on doing what I'd been doing

0:52:400:52:44

and sort of slowly realising,

0:52:440:52:46

"Actually, this isn't going to work. I need to get a job."

0:52:460:52:49

When it came, it was a job I was perfect for.

0:52:490:52:52

In fashion.

0:52:520:52:54

I worked in this place here

0:52:540:52:57

as a... more as a window dresser, really,

0:52:570:53:00

and wannabe shop assistant.

0:53:000:53:01

This was called Street Theatre, and it was very different.

0:53:010:53:05

It was like a kind of quasi punk, New Romantic shop.

0:53:050:53:09

Lots of frilly shirts, lots of sort of, you know, tartan bondage,

0:53:090:53:13

all that kind of stuff.

0:53:130:53:14

But it was packed with clothes.

0:53:140:53:16

Literally, you couldn't move for clothes rails.

0:53:160:53:19

I think you could say we sold too much!

0:53:190:53:21

And this shop was owned by a man called Peter Small,

0:53:220:53:25

who was my kind of mentor.

0:53:250:53:27

He really supported me.

0:53:270:53:29

You know, I basically talked myself into a job here.

0:53:290:53:32

Peter was a rag trade visionary.

0:53:320:53:34

As far as he was concerned, my freakiness was an asset.

0:53:340:53:37

He loved my eye for design and he really encouraged me.

0:53:370:53:40

He was like the great teacher I never had at school.

0:53:400:53:44

He also had a shop here that was a mod shop.

0:53:440:53:46

And there's a great photo, a really famous photo,

0:53:460:53:48

of me doing the windows in the mod shop,

0:53:480:53:50

because I kind of helped them out sometimes as well.

0:53:500:53:52

I did my first proper TV interview when I worked for Peter.

0:53:520:53:56

I did a show called Something Else.

0:53:560:53:58

Yeah, he was such a supporter.

0:53:580:54:00

He was so important to the beginning of my career, really.

0:54:000:54:05

It was 1980.

0:54:050:54:07

In a few months, I would be starting Culture Club.

0:54:070:54:10

Martin would start Sigue Sigue Sputnik.

0:54:100:54:13

For now, we were just fodder for the TV freak shows.

0:54:130:54:16

You do dress outrageously, though. Why do you dress like that?

0:54:160:54:20

Because I want to. That's it, you know.

0:54:200:54:22

Clothes should be fun and not taken too seriously at all.

0:54:220:54:26

But it was my clothes that got me noticed by Malcolm McLaren.

0:54:270:54:31

I was really good friends with Matthew Ashman,

0:54:310:54:33

who was the guitarist in Bow Wow Wow.

0:54:330:54:36

And he heard me singing and was like,

0:54:360:54:38

"Oh, you should be in Bow Wow Wow,

0:54:380:54:39

"maybe we could have an extra singer,"

0:54:390:54:41

and suggested it to Malcolm,

0:54:410:54:43

who saw the potential in maybe upsetting Annabella

0:54:430:54:46

by having me in the band.

0:54:460:54:47

So there was this big gig planned for the Rainbow Theatre

0:54:470:54:51

in Finsbury Park.

0:54:510:54:53

Back in the day, this was actually a really happening place for gigs.

0:54:530:54:57

And I had come here to see Bow Wow Wow.

0:54:570:55:00

And Malcolm decided to have me sing.

0:55:000:55:03

A few songs had gone by, and suddenly it was announced

0:55:030:55:06

that somebody else was going to come and sing - Lieutenant Lush.

0:55:060:55:09

In the encore, instead of Annabella coming back out, I came out.

0:55:090:55:12

So, on they come.

0:55:120:55:14

I remember being really frightened before I went on

0:55:140:55:16

and then getting pushed on the stage.

0:55:160:55:18

And I'm actually saying to my mates, "Wait a minute.

0:55:180:55:21

"That... That's... Isn't that Boy George?"

0:55:210:55:24

There was lots of booing and, like, "Who's that?" and I sang this song.

0:55:240:55:28

And he's actually got a really great voice.

0:55:280:55:32

Not as you'd expect.

0:55:320:55:34

It was soft and gentle and sort of like honey.

0:55:340:55:37

I remember doing my thing and just loving it.

0:55:370:55:40

You know, loving it.

0:55:400:55:41

We were all transfixed, and that was a bit of a moment.

0:55:410:55:45

That was really the beginning of me thinking, "I need to put a band together."

0:55:450:55:48

You know, people from Eltham just didn't become famous.

0:55:520:55:55

It just wasn't... It was just like...

0:55:550:55:58

"You know, you're not going to really ever be a singer.

0:55:580:56:00

"You can sing all you like,

0:56:000:56:01

"but you're never going to make a living out of that."

0:56:010:56:04

MUSIC: Church Of The Poison Mind by Culture Club

0:56:040:56:06

Culture Club came from some shambolic rehearsals

0:56:060:56:09

with some musicians I'd heard of who had the right look.

0:56:090:56:12

Only Jon Moss really knew anything about the business,

0:56:120:56:15

and we followed him.

0:56:150:56:17

Our tone was light and melodic. Music to fall in love to.

0:56:170:56:21

And the world seemed to do just that.

0:56:210:56:23

The fourth single went straight to number one.

0:56:230:56:26

MUSIC: Do You Really Want To Hurt Me by Culture Club

0:56:260:56:31

I used to joke it was the day I married the world.

0:56:310:56:33

One day I could walk round the streets, like, in full regalia

0:56:330:56:37

and nobody would take a blind bit of notice.

0:56:370:56:40

And then overnight I was instantly recognisable

0:56:400:56:43

and I couldn't go anywhere.

0:56:430:56:44

The rest is history,

0:56:440:56:45

but we're in the '80s now, so we can't talk about this!

0:56:450:56:48

He was a classic British pop star.

0:56:510:56:54

He was absolutely huge worldwide.

0:56:540:56:58

He was cuddly.

0:56:580:57:00

But then also with George, with his tongue, there was always an edge.

0:57:000:57:04

And he was always involved in some kind of social change,

0:57:040:57:07

which is what the best pop stars always are.

0:57:070:57:09

MUSIC: Everything I Own by Culture Club

0:57:090:57:13

I feel very lucky that I grew up in the '70s,

0:57:130:57:16

that that was where I got my musical education.

0:57:160:57:19

MUSIC: Generations Of Love by Boy George

0:57:190:57:22

There was a wonderful separation between the establishment

0:57:240:57:27

and, you know, certain types of music.

0:57:270:57:30

You know, you'd never be able to have punk rock now.

0:57:300:57:32

They wouldn't allow it.

0:57:320:57:34

It would be in an advert for Gap within two weeks.

0:57:340:57:36

Before the '70s, everyone knew the world was full of gays,

0:57:410:57:44

but they were forced into hiding.

0:57:440:57:47

My generation burst out of the closet and danced for joy.

0:57:470:57:50

I started the decade with no interest in politics

0:57:530:57:56

and ended up as some sort of symbol, maybe a question mark.

0:57:560:58:00

Sometimes the most political act is just being yourself.

0:58:010:58:04

I hope me and my freaky friends moved the debate on.

0:58:040:58:08

As for current affairs, it's all Bowie's fault.

0:58:080:58:11

For everything else, I blame the parents.

0:58:110:58:14

Big parts of history were created and made in the '70s.

0:58:150:58:18

But when you're in it, you don't think about it.

0:58:180:58:20

You're just living it.

0:58:200:58:22

You know, history only makes sense in hindsight anyway.

0:58:220:58:24

You look back and you go, "Wow!"

0:58:240:58:25

You know, cos you've got nothing to compare it with.

0:58:250:58:28

But now you look back and think the '70s were just, like, bonkers!

0:58:280:58:32

MUSIC: 20th Century Boy by T.Rex

0:58:350:58:37

# Friends say it's fine Friends say it's good

0:58:490:58:53

# Everybody says it's just like Robin Hood... #

0:58:530:58:57

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