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Hello and good morning, this is BBC Radio Orkney,

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40 years and a day old,

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coming to you live from Kirkwall on this Wednesday 10th May.

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I'm David Delday and I'll be here with you for the next half an hour.

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You know what? I think we could almost say that it's just aboot summer.

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The sun is shining,

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the chairs and tables are on display in front of the cafes,

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and the cruise liners are going in and oot faster

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than Jimmy Shand's accordion.

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This season looks set to be the busiest yet,

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with 140 cruise ships due in the county's harbours.

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Orkney is now officially the cruise ship capital of the UK.

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HORN BLASTS

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Excursion. Excursion.

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Another day in paradise, another lovely amazing cruise ship arrives,

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another day of misty, dreich weather,

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but look at the positive sides of this.

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The rain's great for your complexion, allegedly!

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And it makes great whisky in Orkney as well.

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This is the largest ship ever to come into Kirkwall.

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The maximum capacity on this for passengers is 4,345 people.

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Adriano, what do you do on the ship normally?

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I am the entertainment, I entertain all the persons inside the ship.

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I do some fun games

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and some things in the theatre.

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Is this your first time in Kirkwall?

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-Yeah.

-Do you like it?

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I need to drink one Scotland whisky.

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You'll love it. Don't get too drunk, though.

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-No.

-You have to entertain tonight, right?

-Yeah!

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The town today's going to be busy and I think we'll probably have

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around 2,000 to 2,500 people in the town between now and lunchtime.

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-All right, Michael.

-Now, that guy is Jimmy Poke,

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and Jimmy provides the shuttle service for the whole season

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that takes the people from the pier through to the travel centre.

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And he and his wife Vega run a local company called J&V Coaches.

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They provide the shuttle buses, these long bendies and then they

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provide the majority of the tour coaches as well for the season.

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DJ: The largest cruise ship to have berthed in Orkney has just arrived at Hatston.

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MSC Preziosa has a total of over 4,000 folk on board.

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The Panamanian-registered ship boasts no less than eight restaurants,

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seven bars and nine shops, as well as a 1,600-seater theatre.

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She's expected to leave again around five o'clock.

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-I'm just looking to shop.

-For a man.

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-No, I don't want a man. She does.

-I want the man.

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I want to find coasters with the family name on them.

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Looking for a man, yes. She's been looking...

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I've been looking since I got on ship.

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We bought the drink package.

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It's only a few drinks to break even.

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So, for us, for me...

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-It's well worth it.

-You got it for free.

-We do.

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We had to pay for it.

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-No, we didn't have to pay for it.

-No, you didn't.

-But if you had...

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-There's cows, Mary.

-Those are horses.

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She started drinking early!

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Right, today we've got the Preziosa in, which is one of the

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largest liners we've had in,

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with 4,345 plus crew.

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So we're expecting it to be busy.

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This is Fiona. Fiona is a friend of mine that's just come in to help

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today, because normally we rely on the students to come home from uni

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to work for the summer, but most of them aren't home yet.

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So, bless her.

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She's not working at the moment and she's come in for two days to help

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me prep.

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This is quite an eye-opener for me, really.

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I didn't really...

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When I passed this morning driving in here to come and help Lorraine,

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it's like it blocks out the sunshine.

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This enormous liner.

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You know, it's almost bigger than Kirkwall when you see it in the

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distance. I think it's quite cool, really.

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I think it's really, really quite good for the island as a whole.

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It's nice to see so many people visiting.

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I've never been on a cruise ship before and...

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I know, I had a look on the internet last night to see exactly how big

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this ship really was. There's, like, six swimming pools on it,

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for goodness' sake. I mean, this ship was in today.

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The restaurants on there - I was looking last night on the internet, it's absolutely incredible.

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24 hours a day they can eat whatever they like.

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From pizza to bloomin' five-course meals.

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-Yeah, exactly.

-So they're not really needing a scone.

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-Although it would be better.

-If I was on that ship,

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I would need to take all my three wardrobes, the three sizes!

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-So would I.

-Small...

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Medium-ish, large, large, large...

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We could do a swap.

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Aye, exactly. I would never manage to be on that for, like, five weeks.

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-I would be sinking the ship, I think.

-Exactly.

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The cruise ships coming in here, for us it's a very positive thing.

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When we started, we started with one bus and now we've 23.

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So, I mean,

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it's not the only thing that keeps us going in business, obviously,

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but it's a huge factor in the summertime.

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The population of Kirkwall is something like 8,000.

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But you can nearly double that in a day.

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There is a lot of negativity

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on the island. Some examples you hear, you know,

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some of the shopkeepers in Kirkwall say that they get shoplifting quite

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a lot, just because of the shop

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being so full and they can't manage them properly.

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So if that is happening, then you can understand that.

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People speaking about the roads being so busy with buses and things like that.

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But I still think if I wasn't involved in this

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industry, I think I would still be happy to see the people here because

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I like the hustle and bustle of it all.

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I don't really know what Michael does.

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-Nobody knows what Michael does!

-He's never in the country,

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he's always going abroad to do something, allegedly work.

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But I'm sure he's helping bring the cruise liners in,

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which is great, and look at all the people it's employing.

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-Yeah.

-Fantastic.

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Thank you so much, Susanne.

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-Oh, that's OK.

-Never in the country.

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-Wow.

-Always at the airport.

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Is he touting for business? Is that what it is?

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Well, he says that,

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but he comes back with a sun tan and lots of gift bags and stuff.

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I used to work at the airport, so I saw what went on.

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I have inside information.

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We've had four shuttle-loads full of people, so there's about,

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I don't know, 460 people already in the town this morning before

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ten o'clock. Once the throng of passengers have gone,

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the crew will come off as well,

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those who want to go into town on the complimentary shuttle.

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And it's ironic that the crew love to go into the charity shops

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in town, and they make an absolute fortune from crew spend.

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They seem to buy a lot of bedding and handbags, especially the crew.

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So if the crew are allowed off the ship,

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they tend to buy a lot of bedding.

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-Yeah.

-And they then go on to buy a suitcase and fill it.

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So we're just,

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from previous years, sort of preparing ourselves

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with that knowledge.

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The different ships text each other and say, if they're in Kirkwall,

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they go down Victoria Street and there's charity shops down there.

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If they're in Invergordon, they go there, if they're in Lerwick,

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they go there. So the information from ship to ship is passed,

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which is fantastic for us.

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-Yeah.

-Yep.

-We gain from it.

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-Definitely.

-And that supports our services that we offer

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in our cancer support centre.

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I'm a teacher, I don't think I could wear it to school.

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Would I be a large?

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I've been here on this street since I was 18.

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Opened the shop when I was very young and I've seen lots of changes

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throughout the years, particularly with the liners with the increase

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in the liner traffic.

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And I think it's just, you know,

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it's just given us such a boost in the summertime,

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to have all these people coming here.

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There's no way our town centre would look as good as it does if we didn't

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have those cruise ships,

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because that is extra income coming in all year round, including us.

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Because, really, in January, February, March,

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it's absolutely dead.

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There is no tourists here, it's just quiet as anything.

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So in order to survive the wintertime, we do need these cruise ships.

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This is quite unusual. We grow a lot of rhubarb in Orkney.

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I do, too. I live in Elko, Nevada.

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Yeah. And they grow rhubarb there, too?

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Rhubarb will grow anywhere, it's a weed.

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-It's a weed?

-Yes.

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Well, we eat loads of it here, we love it in Orkney.

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Yeah, so do we.

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You meet so many different kinds of people.

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I met a security guard from Alcatraz, believe it or not, once, on this.

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Said they were

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Al Capone's guard on his door.

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I mean, anybody could tell you, but I believed him.

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We get asked questions from,

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"What's the population of Orkney?" to what kind of grass that is.

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To be quite honest, I don't know if there's different types or grass

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or not, but it's grass to me.

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You just give them an answer, even if you don't know.

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So what kind of grass did you tell them it was?

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Long grass.

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I'm a local person.

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I'll tell people what I know, and what I don't know I'll just make up anyway.

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So it's all good, most people are happy.

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I actually got a book from...

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..a girl once and she told me to read it when she went into Skara Brae.

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I said, "Why?" She says, "Cos you obviously know nothing about Orkney."

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So!

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Straight up there, you come to there.

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-This is Broad St, right?

-You just walk across and up here.

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This is only the walking area?

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-There is cars...

-How often is this bus, shuttle bus?

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We just go round all day.

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-All day?

-Until I'm dizzy.

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-Hello.

-Hard Rock Cafe, please.

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Hard Rock Cafe, no problem.

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Have you had enough, guys?

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You going back for lunch?

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We have lunch in the town.

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Sometimes this is what people get annoyed at.

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All the food that's all inclusive on the ship, they go back at lunchtime.

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Some of the cafes and restaurants, they don't make a lot.

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You've got to understand that,

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but I'm sure they make an extra pound somewhere along the line.

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Hello, come on, guys.

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I won't bite.

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It's about half past one now and everybody is having teas and coffees,

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nobody's eating any food.

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We get people coming in, having a cup of coffee, sitting on the Wi-Fi.

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They can stay hours on end.

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You can't exactly ask them to move on.

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But there is a win-win for some people,

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but it's certainly not the food industry, I feel.

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Some friends of mine that used to come up here quite a bit,

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they feel now that when they come to Orkney with these cruise liners,

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it's changing everything and it's spoiling it.

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And, you know...

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Because when you've got that many people walking about...

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-OVEN BEEPS

-..you just can't help...

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..to think that, where are they all going to go?

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There's a lot of positives,

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I just think that you have to think about them a little bit more.

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And perhaps you need to get your non-Orcadian head off.

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The biggest positive, I would say...

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-What was that?

-What did you say?

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-Getting to work with me.

-She's such a trollop.

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Stop eating the chips!

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She's fired, cos she's eating the chips.

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Hello!

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Could you open the doors, please?

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Yes, I might consider that for you.

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He's in a good mood today.

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Some days he comes in and his hair's all over the shop.

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-Hair?!

-Got his jammies on still.

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Yeah. Know your place, Mr Bus Driver.

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-Are you coming for a run?

-No, I have to stay here and look after...

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-Hello.

-Morning.

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It's good. I think that's just about everybody that we've got.

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Hello, are you guys off one of the cruise liners?

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-Yes.

-How long are you on the ship for?

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-This shop?

-On the ship when you work on the liner.

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-How long do you spend, is it months?

-Months, yeah.

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-Ten months.

-Ten months?

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Wow. Ten months, OK.

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Most of the crew are from south-east Asia, Philippines.

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We've had a few from Sri Lanka and they do a lot of shopping

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to take back to their families.

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Obviously they've been away for such a long period of time,

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when they're home they've not seen their wives, children, partners,

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families. So today they were explaining that the reason they come

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into charity shops is because it's just a lot cheaper.

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They're not tourists, they're not here to buy souvenirs as such.

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It's more essentials.

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Surprised for the price.

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And it's really nice.

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Today, they were buying body warmers,

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because they're obviously finding it cold!

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£10. Is this your first time in Orkney?

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-Yeah, yeah.

-First time, yeah.

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And will you be back?

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Does the boat come back here?

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-Next month.

-OK.

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-Yeah, so we'll see you then.

-Yeah, we'll see you again.

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We'll have new stock by then.

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Yes, thank you.

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Thank you, bye. I know that people have their views and there's

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negatives to it, but certainly for ourselves, you know,

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we're trying to... Constantly striving to raise as much money

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and awareness as possible that we're here,

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and if the crew off the cruise ships are telling each other about us,

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that's the best, you know,

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PR we can get, really.

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Orkney welcomed the largest cruise liner ever

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to come into the county yesterday. The weather wasn't ideal,

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but the operating company said that despite the rain,

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the visit had been a great success.

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Sadly, today's weather forecast predicts more of the same and you

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can expect cloud cover to roll in this morning.

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This morning in port, we have a return call from the Car-ibbean Princess,

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as they call it in the States, or the Caribb-ean Princess,

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as we call it in Orkney. As you can see around us,

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we have got Caribbean weather.

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We've got beautiful grey skies and a nice chill to the wind.

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Just what you get in the Caribbean, and that's why they come here -

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for the weather!

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Hello, folks. Where are you from?

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-California.

-Oh, my God!

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We've come a long way.

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You've come a long way.

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Yeah, but my folks are from Oban.

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-Oh, you've got Scottish ancestry.

-Yes, I do.

-Have you been to Oban?

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-Yes, I have.

-Do you love it?

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-I love it.

-I love California.

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Would you believe that a woman's just come up to me and said,

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-"I want to go to Edinburgh."

-What, from here?

-From here.

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So she obviously thinks that she's in Scotland, so she's worked that out.

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She's got that bit right, then, that's fine, yeah.

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And hasn't got a Scooby-Doo...

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-Yeah.

-This is their first port call in Scotland, to be fair.

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-Yeah, OK.

-However, a map would be handy.

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-Yeah, she wanted to go...

-She wanted to go to Edinburgh.

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Well, I just told her she'd have to fly, and she was astounded.

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Yeah, you get some crackers.

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Well, a lady said to me one day...

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OK. I said, "Where do you want to go on, on the bus tour or into town?"

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She goes, "No, we're in Dublin, aren't we, right?"

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And I'm like, "No."

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I don't know where they'd been or where they were going,

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but she obviously thought they were in Dublin.

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They get disorientated, I think.

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Yeah. But that's pretty disorientated.

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-Yeah.

-However.

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Today, for the first time this season,

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we're closing the streets from ten o'clock in the morning through till

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four o'clock in the afternoon for health and safety reasons,

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for traffic management and so on.

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So all our great retail supporters, a few of the shops,

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such as Judith Glue, Steven at Aurora,

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all of the main shops in the main drag,

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Sheila Fleet, etc, will make hopefully a really good trade today.

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Folks, Aurora Jewellery in town, 10% discount.

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Woohoo!

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There you go!

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I'll be here till six o'clock.

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CHEERING

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Cufflinks.

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The jewellery side...

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can be really good, you know,

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if you get people coming and they want to buy a gold ring.

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I've had people coming in buying a gold ring,

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a diamond for £1,000, no problem.

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But it tends to be more silver that you would sell,

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because they're generally buying it as gifts.

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But I've had...

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Actually, last year, I had a...

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passenger off a cruise ship who came in and bought a gold bangle

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for £2,500, and they were just quite happy to do that.

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It's great when they do.

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Jewellery's ideally suited for cruise ship passengers because

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it's a small item and it's not taking space up in their luggage.

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Over and above that, they really like textiles, you know,

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tartan products, etc, and that's quite a big part of the business.

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We've got the Caribbean Princess,

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which I believe from the radio this morning,

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there's 3,100 passengers on it.

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Mostly American, I think, by what we've seen so far this morning.

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It should give us a good day,

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cos the Americans are very good at spending money.

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See, it looks good.

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He's a good model.

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No, it looks very nice.

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We're eating too much.

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You eat too much - every two hours.

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And you think it's normal,

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cos you only had one dessert and the person beside you had two.

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So you think, "Oh, I was really good,"

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and I don't know how I'm going to fit in anything.

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I was doing really good weight-wise before I started this, not good now.

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But I love some of your stuff.

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Gosh, that's gorgeous.

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If we were to rely on local trade,

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I don't think we would have the High Street in Kirkwall that we do,

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which I think, long-term, is good for locals as well,

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because they have a good selection of goods to choose from

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and a lot of nice shops, a good-looking High Street.

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For us, we've just entered into this whole city centre and we feel it's

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vibrant, it's inclusive, and there's a real sense of community.

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A few years ago, folk started speaking about the fact we should

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have a shop in town, and we never really felt that was viable.

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Then, the one thing that struck us was when the cruise ships started

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coming, we realised there was quite a big international market,

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and for a while we travelled to London, to shows, to retail shows,

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to try and increase our market.

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And then we started to realise there was actually a visiting market right

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-on our doorsteps.

-You know, these people in this town are so nice.

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Lol, she gave me her recipe for scones.

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So I might open a store over here and sell scones, they were so wonderful.

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These are so lovely.

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-These are a good choice.

-The people are so nice in this town.

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-Thank you, ladies.

-Thank you.

-Enjoy your stay.

-Bye!

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Got to say bye to my public here.

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So here we are, half past four on a Thursday afternoon,

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and these are the last of the passengers coming back now.

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The last shuttle bus is away and the last tour bus has returned.

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We've had about 3,500 folk ashore today

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and about 800 or 900 crew as well.

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I think the majority of retailers in the street are really, really happy.

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So, fantastic day all round.

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Orkney welcomes the Norwegian Jade cruise ship for the first time this morning.

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With around 2,400 passengers and 1,000 crew on-board,

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businesses and historic sites are preparing for another busy day.

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The Kirkwall City Pipe Band has been rehearsing in preparation of the

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ship's departure this evening,

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they'll be at the pier later on to play out the liner.

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I have a tour booked today from a couple from America.

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Significant for me because this is where I'm going to make my income

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through the summer.

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It's...

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There's a lot of people come off these ships that come in here,

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so it's a very important business for me, personally.

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About two years ago, I had a heart condition called Long QT syndrome,

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so I was retired from the Fire Service and decided I'd go for

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tour guiding. Quite enjoy history, love Orkney so I thought, why not?

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That's them just coming down there with the red fleece on.

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How you doing? Nice to meet you.

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Hello, Robert, pleased to meet you. I'm David. I'm going to take you

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-on tour today, so if you'd like to follow me.

-Sure.

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We're going to the Italian chapel.

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I just know that it was made by Italian prisoners of war during

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the Second World War.

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And it's kind of ornate, really colourful.

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So it's to do with the story of the U-boat that got into Scapa Flow.

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Winston Churchill came to Orkney six weeks into the Second World War and

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he said that the eastern approaches to Scapa Flow must be blocked

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now and forever. So he sanctioned the building of the Churchill Barriers.

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But labour was short, it was difficult work.

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And when the Italians capitulated in the Second World War,

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some of the prisoners were brought to Orkney to help with the building

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of the barriers.

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They were given permission to get two Nissen huts or Quonset huts

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to use, one for a school and one for a place of worship.

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They decided to use both of them as a place of worship.

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There was three main people involved with building the Italian chapel,

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and the main one of them was Domenico Ciocchetti,

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who was an artist to trade anyway.

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He got a lot of the inspiration for a lot of the things in here from a

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prayer card that his mother had given him before he went to war.

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So you can see how they've constructed it,

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it's just your Quonset hut or your Nissen hut, and it's lined with plaster board,

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so you can actually see where they've got a join.

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What they had to hand was concrete, they had a good supply of concrete,

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they had a good supply of steel,

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but they didn't have an awful lot else.

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We've got the two... They're not stained-glass windows,

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they're just glass windows and they're painted from behind

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to look like stained-glass windows.

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So the amount of work and the artistry that's gone into that

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-is pretty incredible.

-It's breathtaking.

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I can see how you say you feel proud that it's yours.

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Unbelievable.

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I think that, with very limited resources, people who are creative

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can do almost anything. It is quite beautiful.

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-Where the

-BLEEP

-have you been?!

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LAUGHTER

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She's fired! She's fired!

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-I cry every time.

-What, for the pipe band?

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Yeah, every time the pipe band starts, and the boat's moving,

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-I don't know what it is.

-Flicked a switch.

-I've seen you cry, Michael.

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-I have never cried.

-You have.

-I haven't.

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PIPE BAND PLAYS

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One of the greatest challenges we have in marine business in Orkney is

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perception, and I think because we're a small island group located

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off the north of Scotland, that perhaps we don't have the facilities,

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the skill set or the supply chain to deliver.

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That is so totally wrong.

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And what we constantly do up here is, because of that misperception,

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we all tend to punch above our weight.

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And because of that, we do well right across the board.

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And to be called the cruise capital of something that's a global industry,

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it makes us all really, really proud.

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