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If I was describing him to a police constable, | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
I would say, "Tall, physically imposing, funny..." | 0:00:09 | 0:00:14 | |
He shot my pigeon! | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
Ah, easy, sir. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:18 | |
"..big-hearted fellow." | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
HE GIGGLES Splendid. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
I suppose the nose is the other distinguishing feature, | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
but I wouldn't want to harp on that. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
Stephen's work ethic is extraordinary - | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
the books, the plays, the films, | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
you know, the television appearances, | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
the adverts, the voice-overs... It goes on and on and on. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
I mean, he's everywhere, Stephen. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
You cannot live your life without Stephen Fry. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:47 | |
He's respected because he can direct, he can write, | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
he can act - he can do it all. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:54 | |
The moments that always impact me the most, | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
when he does it, is erm... | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
are the moments that aren't scripted. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
I would like to spank the... | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
..thank Spike Jonze. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
Oh, thank God it wasn't "I'd like to thank William Jones." | 0:01:20 | 0:01:24 | |
Erm... LAUGHTER | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
One of the pleasures of presenting the BAFTAs - | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
and I never tire of this - is meeting heroes. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
I love meeting film stars. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
It's such a cheap thing to say but it's completely true. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
I mean, to share a stage with Dustin Hoffman and Martin Scorsese | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
is a very exciting thing. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
-That's it. -Stephen! | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
Can you stand here, please? | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
MUSIC: He's So Fine by The Chiffons | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
# Doo lang, doo lang, doo lang | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
# Doo lang, doo lang | 0:02:06 | 0:02:07 | |
-# He's so fine -Doo lang, doo lang, doo lang | 0:02:07 | 0:02:11 | |
-# I wish he were mine -Doo lang, doo lang, doo lang... # | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
I was born in North London in Hampstead, | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
erm, about which I remember nothing. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
Then a few years in Buckinghamshire, | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
but at the age of seven, my family moved to Norfolk. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:27 | |
It was agony to be so remote. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
I envied all of the people that I was at school with who | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
lived in cities and towns, because they could go to cinemas | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
and milk bars and things like that. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
The name of Uppingham is synonymous with its school. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
It was founded in 1587 | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
and it's one of the country's leading public schools. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
It was there, at this school, at the age of about 14, | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
that I discovered a real love of drama, and indeed comedy. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
There was a boy I... | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
We wrote sketches together, and we even wrote to the BBC... | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
asking if we could have employment as comedy writers, | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
which was a bit cheeky, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
and, yeah, I played a witch in Macbeth | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
and a few other notable parts. HE LAUGHS | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
BELL CHIMES | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
Eye of newt and toe of frog, | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
wool of bat and tongue of dog. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
I thought that, you know, because of the eye of newt | 0:03:20 | 0:03:25 | |
and all that sort of stuff that was in the cauldron of the witches, | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
erm, I should go to the butchers | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
and get a whole load of guts - a load of pig guts. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
I decorated myself in intestines of pig | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
and put a whole load of others into the cauldron for us to pull out. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:42 | |
Hubble, bubble, toil and trouble, | 0:03:42 | 0:03:46 | |
fire burn and cauldron bubble! | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
The first night, it was sort of OK. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
The second night, it really was beginning to pong quite appallingly. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
By the third night, they'd all been taken away from me, | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
with severe frowns, and burnt, | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
and I think, to this day, the theatre basically stinks of offal, | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
and that was... That was unfortunate. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
I was a very, very badly behaved boy. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
Very badly behaved indeed. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
I think, almost unquestionably, I would now be | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
diagnosed as having attention deficit hyperactivity disorder. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
I was, you know, incredibly disruptive. Incredibly loud. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
I couldn't concentrate. I couldn't settle. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
I was a bad influence on others. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
I was hyperactive. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
Erm, all the things you think of as ADHD. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
MUSIC: Theme from A Clockwork Orange by Wendy Carlos | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
I was about 14, 15, | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
and I got permission from my housemaster to go to London, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
stay the Saturday night and Sunday night - | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
and Monday was the bank holiday - come back Monday evening. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
So it was three days off from school. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
I came back on the Thursday because I discovered cinema. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
There was Cabaret. There was A Clockwork Orange. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
In those days, you could sit in a cinema, | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
having paid for a ticket, and just stay in the same cinema | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
and watched the same film three or four times, | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
and I did that, and it got me expelled, however. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
It was the straw that broke the camel's back, | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
as far as the headmaster and the housemaster at school were concerned, | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
and so I left. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
I mean, everything about me was that of the... | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
the dropout, useless, arrogant teenager, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:30 | |
cos it was, you know, | 0:05:30 | 0:05:31 | |
"I've had it with education. I don't need it. Ugh." | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
And things got very black and bleak. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
I stole a couple of credit cards | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
and went pretty mad around lots of different counties, | 0:05:40 | 0:05:45 | |
staying in hotels, buying clothes, | 0:05:45 | 0:05:49 | |
eating and drinking and being absurd, | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
and not knowing what I was going to do. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
I mean, I kind of knew, somehow, I must get caught, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
and indeed I did - in Swindon, of all unlikely places, | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
in a hotel there called the Hotel Wiltshire. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
I went up to my room and there were two men inside the room, | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
and they said, "Wiltshire CID." | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
HE WHIMPERS Oh, dear. It all happened. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
I had ten months inside the prison, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
while the paperwork from seven different counties | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
caught up on this paper trail of credit cards. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
Eventually, then, I appeared in front of the beak | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
and was given two years' probation, which was very fortunate, | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
erm, and I went back home, sober and unhappy with myself | 0:06:29 | 0:06:35 | |
erm, erm, daring almost not to look at my parents in the eye. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
They were very kind but they said, | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
"Look, there's nothing we can do any more. It's up to you." | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
I said, "I understand that," and I went straight to Norwich, | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
and by incredible coincidence, | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
it was the second day of registration at Norwich City College. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
I said, "Listen, if you let me, | 0:06:52 | 0:06:57 | |
"I will get A grades - A1s, with S levels - | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
"and I will get a scholarship to Cambridge." | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
MUSIC: Cathedral by Stefano Torossi & Claudio Gizzi | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
Stephen Fry from Booton in Norfolk, reading English. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
The funny thing about a place like Cambridge is... | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
is that there's a strong sense that | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
you're in a place that is part of history, | 0:07:18 | 0:07:19 | |
part of the cultural landscape of your country, | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
and that you are not going to be worthy of it. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
This was Wittgenstein and Bertrand Russell, | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
for goodness' sake - what are you doing here? | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
It's not the most perfect meritocracy in the world | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
and it certainly wasn't then. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
There was a far higher proportion of people from expensive public schools, | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
but there were lots of people also not. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
There was a friend of mine who said | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
he thought everyone was called Ashley, and he thought, | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
"Well, it's a very unlikely name for public school people." | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
Then he realised they were saying "actually". | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
IN POSH ACCENT: "Oh, hi. Oh, actually, erm... | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
"Actually, I've got a... Oh, yeah, | 0:07:51 | 0:07:52 | |
"I've got a supervision, actually. Ya, go on. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
"Here, come round for some toast, actually." | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
Erm, you know, it was that sort of... | 0:07:57 | 0:07:58 | |
He just thought everyone was called Ashley. It's so funny. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
And then, of course, there are other people there, | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
who just seem to be there because they went to Eton | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
and are good at rowing, | 0:08:06 | 0:08:07 | |
like Hugh Laurie, for example. No, I'm kidding. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
Erm... | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
Rowing four, Hugh Laurie, one of the Etonians in the boat. He's 20. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:17 | |
He came to Cambridge to row, to row boats in the water - | 0:08:17 | 0:08:22 | |
something, you would think, only good for slaves and convicts, | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
but apparently it's a pleasurable thing to do. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
Up and down. "Ugh, ugh." Why would you do that? | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
I went to the university to row. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
That was my only plan. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
It was only because I got ill - I had glandular fever | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
and I was not able to row in my first year, | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
so I settled on the Footlights, | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
and went into it, and had a... and just loved it. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
I had a terrific time. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
And Emma Thompson, | 0:08:48 | 0:08:49 | |
who I believe went on to do... | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
I don't know, I think she became... | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
I'm not sure what she did. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
Emma had been in the Footlights in her first year. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
She said, "I'm going to take you over to meet someone. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
"I think you'll get on. He's the president." | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
And this was Hugh. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:04 | |
And we realised that we made each other laugh a lot. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
I mean, we laughed, erm... | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
just dawn till dusk. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
I don't know, I'm not even sure if we stopped at dusk. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
We might even have gone on after dusk. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
And I'd describe it as falling in love. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
And it was an act of creative falling in love, comically falling in love. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
A genuine connection, instant, with a remarkable man. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
The tragedy of it is, he went to America, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
and got a job in a hospital as a porter or something, | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
and now busks for a living. It's... | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
It's such a pity because he is actually rather talented. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
He had a tremendous sort of gravity, | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
even at the age of whatever he was, 20. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
He sort of seemed like a 60-year-old at the age of 20. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
He wore tweed and, I think, stiff collars, and smoked a pipe. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
I mean, ludicrously affected. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
MUSIC: Under Pressure by Queen and David Bowie | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
We went up to Edinburgh and there was a new award for a comedy show | 0:09:58 | 0:10:03 | |
in Edinburgh that year called the Perrier Award, | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
and we won it - the first one, the inaugural one - | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
and we thought, just, "Life doesn't get better." | 0:10:07 | 0:10:11 | |
And then, there's someone who introduces himself - | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
a legendary figure in BBC comedy called Dennis Main Wilson. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:18 | |
He said, "I'd like to do your show on the BBC." | 0:10:18 | 0:10:23 | |
So we're going, "What?" | 0:10:23 | 0:10:24 | |
We were just incredibly lucky. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
Incredibly lucky. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:28 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
Those sketches are quite unlike anything ever before or since, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
and in many ways, in some ways, | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
it's the best thing they've ever done, I think, the Cellar Tapes. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
What's the word, I wonder, | 0:10:54 | 0:10:55 | |
that Shakespeare decides to begin his sentence with here? | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
-Erm, "time" is the first word. -Time. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
Yeah. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:02 | |
Time. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
Yeah. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:06 | |
And how does Shakespeare decide to spell it, Hugh? | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
T-I-M-E. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:15 | |
-T-I? -M. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:16 | |
-M-E. -Yeah. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
And what sort of spelling of the word "time" is that? | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
Well, it's the ordinary spelling. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
-It's the ordinary spelling, isn't it? It's the conventional spelling. -Oh. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:31 | |
I know it must be sickening for people to hear it, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
who want to make a career in comedy, and think, | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
"Well, it's just cos he went to private schools and Cambridge." | 0:11:36 | 0:11:40 | |
And I don't know. Maybe it is. I... | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
I can't think that's the only reason. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:43 | |
It seemed odd if it is the only reason, and I apologise. I can't... | 0:11:43 | 0:11:48 | |
I can't... I did my very best not ever to go to a public school | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
by getting expelled from three of them, | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
so I think I can in some way let myself off. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
The famous review that - | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
probably one of the great Footlights reviews in history - | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
the Cellar Tapes of 1981, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
was right in the middle of me producing Not The Nine O'Clock News, | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
and Stephen sent me a sketch out of the blue. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
As a result of that, | 0:12:10 | 0:12:11 | |
we got to know each other, | 0:12:11 | 0:12:12 | |
and I got asked to be the script editor on a show called Alfresco, | 0:12:12 | 0:12:17 | |
that had the cast to dream of - | 0:12:17 | 0:12:18 | |
Stephen Fry, Hugh Laurie, | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
Ben Elton, Emma Thompson, | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
Siobhan Redmond and Robbie Coltrane. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
I mean, it is impossible to imagine a better comedy cast. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
Erm, excuse me, do you think I could have a sip? | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
Who are you? | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
Why are you crawling out of our television set? | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
I'm part of a pilot programme from the first ever live cable channel. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:37 | |
So what do you want to watch? | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
Yes, what do you want to watch? | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
Oh, erm, the wrestling. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
Wrestling? Right. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:46 | |
-Oh. -Oh! Ah! | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
And it was pretty much - I won't say a disaster - | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
it was just a sort of damp nothing. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
Didn't really work. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:54 | |
The main gate's here, | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
-and the British quarters are here, right? -Uh-huh. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
So what's to stop us dressing up as grand pianos | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
and just walking out through the main gate? | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
Meet Bertie the piano. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYS | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
Dickens? | 0:13:11 | 0:13:12 | |
One, maybe two grand pianos, under cover of darkness, | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
cross-country, might stand a chance, but 60, speaking English? | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
Hell, Jerry would never swallow it. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
I was overwhelmed by the talent of Ben Elton and his fructiferous pen. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:28 | |
Ben just...absolutely frightening. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
Stephen and I would come in with a, sort of, | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
half a piece of paper and we'd mumble, | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
and Ben would open a briefcase, and just, | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
"This is what I did yesterday afternoon." | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
And he'd written, sort of, | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
I don't know, 100 pages of material. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
By the time we did the second series of Alfresco, | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
Ben was writing, with Rik Mayall and Lise Mayer, | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
the second series of The Young Ones, and I... | 0:13:51 | 0:13:55 | |
We have an argument about this, Ben and I, all the time. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
I distinctly remember having the idea of... | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
of the University Challenge episode, | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
in which Emma and Ben and I, and Hugh, appeared. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:08 | |
-Representing Footlights, we have Lord Monty... -Hello. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
..Lord Snot, | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
Miss Money Sterling, | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
-and Mr Kendal Mint Cake... -Hi. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
..and representing Scumbag, we have Mike... | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
-Hello. -..Prick... -What? | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
..Vyvyan and Neil. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
Vegetable rights and peas. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:27 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
But Ben remembers it as being his idea, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
so I'm sure he's right, really, | 0:14:32 | 0:14:33 | |
but I do remember at least contributing to the idea, | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
so that was fun, working with Rik and Ade | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
and, you know, that whole bunch. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
I'd seen Blackadder I, | 0:14:45 | 0:14:46 | |
which John Lloyd and Rowan had put together, | 0:14:46 | 0:14:51 | |
with, of course, Richard Curtis and Rowan writing the script, | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
and I'd really enjoyed it. You know, Peter Cook, who was one of my heroes | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
and, of course, Brian Blessed. | 0:14:57 | 0:14:58 | |
A toast to our triumph! | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
-Our triumph! -Our triumph! | 0:15:01 | 0:15:02 | |
Then, when I heard there was going to be this second one, | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
I was really entranced. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
Do I look absolutely divine and regal, and yet, | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
and at the same time, very pretty and rather accessible? | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
You are every jolly Jack Tar's dream, Majesty. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
I thought as much. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
And it just became magical, I think. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
I mean, I can say that, cos my part was small enough for me | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
not to be arrogant in saying that. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
Hugh and I, we'd done Blackadder, | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
and Richard, our agent, had said, | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
go and see one of the comedy executives at the BBC at the time. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
"Go and see them, they're quite interested in | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
"maybe you doing a series." | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
And we thought, "Oh, what? Our day has gone. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
"It's the day... This is the day of, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:42 | |
"you know, The Young Ones and Alexei Sayle." | 0:15:42 | 0:15:44 | |
And rightly, of course, you know, | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
and so we were all a bit kind of... HE GROANS | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
Well, I suppose, again, the BBC were, | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
they were just thinking, you know, | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
"We could take a chance on these two. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
"They're probably not going to spend too much money." | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
Which I don't think we did. We had a few... We used a few wigs. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
We ran through the wig store. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
Our wig budget was substantial. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
-LAUGHTER -The parallel quantities D3 and D7 | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
are inverted in the same direction, | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
giving us a resultant modular quantity of 0.567359. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:18 | |
Now, this should begin to give us some clues | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
-as to whether... -I'm sorry. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
Brian, I'm sorry. LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
What? What's happened? | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
You said... | 0:16:27 | 0:16:28 | |
You said 0.567359. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
Oh, no, I didn't, did I? | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
-It should be 0.567395. -395. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
I don't believe it. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:38 | |
Oh, no! | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
Oh-ho-ho-ho! | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
I think Stephen would admit that he's not... | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
He's not... He's more of a verbal performer than a physical one. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:49 | |
I think he'd admit that. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
Although, the sketch he did in Fry And Laurie of Dancercises | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
is one of the best things we ever did. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
Let's now pretend that I am a prominent quantity surveyor | 0:16:56 | 0:17:02 | |
and Hugh is Geoffrey Cavendish, a client. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
You'll see that I'm able to work, | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
and while I work, | 0:17:07 | 0:17:08 | |
able to build in all kinds of strengthening and toning movements. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
There's nothing quite like what Stephen does in comedy - | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
with Hugh, particularly. That partnership is very odd. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
They're sort of inventing a new form of conversation. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
It slightly reminds one of Pete and Dud, in a way. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
Morning, Geoffrey. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:28 | |
Morning, Dennis. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:29 | |
Do you have any quantities for me to survey this morning? | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
Erm, yes, I have got one quantity | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
I'd very much like you to survey, yes. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
This quantity here? | 0:17:37 | 0:17:38 | |
That's the fellow. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
All right, well, that's got that quantity surveyed. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
Peter Cook and Dudley Moore were, of course, | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
sort of gods to us, | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
and Morecambe and Wise, and the Two Ronnies and... | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
We just grew up loving sketches. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
We did have this idea that going away... | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
and lots of writers sort of try and do this, | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
they sort of persuade themselves that they're too easily distracted. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:04 | |
You know, and then, "We've got to go away. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
"We've got to isolate ourselves." | 0:18:06 | 0:18:07 | |
We went to Crete. I don't know why. Cheap tickets or something. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
I don't know why we went to Crete. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
It was fantastic. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
And we tried to live the good life, and we would, erm... | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
We would swim around the bay in the morning, | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
and then write all day, and then play backgammon all night, | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
and I amassed a fairly healthy lead. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
In fact, I think I'm right in saying that | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
Stephen actually owes me £1.5 million. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
That's nearly as much as he earns from an episode of House, | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
so that's, you know, it's quite important to him, that kind of thing. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
I got £1.5 million worth of satisfaction | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
out of annoying him by beating him at backgammon. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
There's one moment in Fry and Laurie where... | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
It's a Formula One sketch, which is making fun of the fact that | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
a lot of Formula One drivers, Grand Prix drivers, | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
are always moaning. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:00 | |
Michael, you must be very thrilled with that result. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
Take us through the race. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:04 | |
-IN AUSTRIAN ACCENT: -Yes, well, I was not very happy with the car, | 0:19:04 | 0:19:09 | |
and we had a lot of problems, | 0:19:09 | 0:19:10 | |
and the car was not so good, I think. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
Shut up! | 0:19:13 | 0:19:14 | |
And you know, I just get more and more annoyed by this whingeing | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
from Formula One, and so I end up going "baf" like that. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
You do a job that half of mankind would kill to be able to do, | 0:19:22 | 0:19:26 | |
and you can have sex with the other half as often as you like. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
I just need to know if this makes you happy! | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
We had a lot of problems... | 0:19:36 | 0:19:37 | |
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
It really connected and you can see it. You can see it on-screen. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
Hugh takes it well, but oh, I feel awful. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
You could see me going... | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
MUSIC: Gonna Fly Now (Rocky Theme) by Bill Conti | 0:19:50 | 0:19:54 | |
And the next day, I came in early and went to the make-up chair | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
and got them to do an enormous bruise... | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
-And then I sort of... -HE MUMBLES | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
It's fine. It's fine. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:07 | |
And he's, "Oh, my God, are you OK? Are you OK?" | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
No, no, it's fine. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:11 | |
I told you, I'm doing just fine. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
Erm, which was very pleasing to do. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
It's very difficult to sit next to Baldrick, because he's so smelly. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
-This is Stephen Fry who plays General Melchett... -Thank you, Tony. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
..who is a complete, utter, vicious duffer. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
Oh, now you're just trying to be lovely. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
It's not true. It's not true. It's not true. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
OK, opening titles. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
Two, one... | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
HE SHOUTS | 0:20:37 | 0:20:41 | |
MUSIC: Theme from Blackadder by Howard Goodall | 0:20:41 | 0:20:45 | |
And one of the terrible moments of Blackadder IV for me | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
was the shooting of the title sequence. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
I don't know if you remember it | 0:20:50 | 0:20:51 | |
but it takes place in a sort of parade ground, a square, | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
which was shot in Colchester at the Royal Anglian Regiment's barracks. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
MARCHING BAND PLAYS | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
Stephen and Tim McInnerny were supposed to take the salute of | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
the soldiers marching past, and he was... | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
And we were in a parade ground, and he just looked slightly, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
sort of, bare, unadorned, | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
and I said, "Well, they're in jodhpurs. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
"Even if it's an infantry regiment, they could be on horseback. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
"Why don't we get a couple of horses?" | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
And so they summoned up... They said, "How big are they?" | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
"Well, Stephen, he is, he's big. He's a big fellow." | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
So they had to get a big horse. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
MUSIC: Romeo And Juliet by Prokofiev | 0:21:29 | 0:21:34 | |
Stephen's horse, I think was called something like... | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
called something like Fury, | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
and was just a fire-breathing monster of a thing. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:48 | |
This huge, black creature, who just had this... | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
"Anybody tries it..." | 0:21:52 | 0:21:53 | |
HORSE WHINNIES | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
And I'm on the horse, ready to take the salute, | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
and suddenly, the band starts, | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
and the horse goes "huh-huh-ha" like that. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
HORSE NEIGHS | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
Absolutely vertical, I'm hanging on like this. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
Fury did not care for the band. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
Fury let his displeasure be known. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
HORSE WHINNIES | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
The loudest noise, at this point, is not the horse neighing, | 0:22:22 | 0:22:26 | |
it's not the band - | 0:22:26 | 0:22:27 | |
it's Hugh screaming with laughter. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
I thought I was going to die from laughing. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
I can still make myself laugh thinking of it now, | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
because I'm cruel, you see? | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
I'm a very cruel person. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:38 | |
I'm not proud of that but there we are. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
It's my nature. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:42 | |
So we tried that three times. Each time, it happens, | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
I managed to stay on, and then, in the end, | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
a little sad, kind of, podium is erected, | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
and we have to stand on it and do that, | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
and the horses are retired. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
So it was a bit of a humiliation. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
MARCHING BAND PLAYS | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
We had lunch in the mess, and all the officers, as it were - | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
the people playing the officers, so Stephen, Hugh, Tim and Rowan - | 0:23:03 | 0:23:08 | |
all sat at the table with the officers and had a lovely lunch, | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
and Baldrick had a stool and some baked beans | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
in an upside-down tin helmet to eat for lunch, | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
cos he was only a squaddie. It was great. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
Are you looking forward to the big push? | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
No, sir, I'm absolutely terrified. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
HE GIGGLES | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
The healthy humour of the honest Tommy. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
Ha-ha! Don't worry, my boy. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
If you should falter, remember that Captain Darling and I are behind you. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
-About 35 miles behind you. -LAUGHTER | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
Ben and Richard, the writers, didn't work in the rehearsal room. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
They provided the first draft, as it were, the draft for the read-through, | 0:23:42 | 0:23:46 | |
with the story, and obviously, a lot of the dialogue and everything else, | 0:23:46 | 0:23:50 | |
'but we kind of tended to try and, you know, always up the game a bit. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:56 | |
'Stephen suited that thing that I was used to from radio | 0:23:56 | 0:24:01 | |
'and Not The Nine O'Clock News, is that the script is...' | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
is not, I'm afraid, treated like holy writ. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
It is the beginning of a thing. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
The good ones are left alone, and where they don't work, | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
'we kick it around a lot. It's not a common thing to do in a sitcom. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
'It's much more like the way Monty Python work, for example.' | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
-Ring top bell. -CHEERING | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
You know, he took a risk, I suppose, | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
because we could easily have fallen to pieces. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
We very nearly did at times. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
I mean, it just seemed like, well, we don't have a show now. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
We're recording it tomorrow. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
It doesn't... None of it makes any sense. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
Stephen's contribution - | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
as with all of the cast, really, | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
who are all writers, generally, as well as performers - | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
is to come up with these fantastic gems. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
Notably, Tim McInnerny's character in the fourth series was | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
originally called Captain Cartwright. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
Stephen said, "So, why don't you call him | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
"something interesting, Richard, like Darling. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
Then you could say, "Hello, Darling." And everybody laughed, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
and Richard said, "Well, that's not a very good joke. | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
"That would just be funny once and then it would never be funny again." | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
And of course, it's one of the hallmarks of the fourth series. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
You know, "Come on, Darling, we're leaving." | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
What the hell are you playing at, Darling? | 0:25:08 | 0:25:12 | |
Whenever we lost our bearings, it was like... | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
It was like finding a rope in the water. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
"Well, at least we've got the Darling joke." | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
I know exactly what I'll say to her. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
-Darling... -Yes, sir? | 0:25:21 | 0:25:23 | |
LAUGHTER What? | 0:25:23 | 0:25:25 | |
Erm, I don't know, sir. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:26 | |
-Well, don't butt in. -Sorry, sir. -LAUGHTER | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
I want to make you happy, Darling. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
I want to build a nest for your ten tiny toes. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
I want to cover every inch of your gorgeous body in pepper | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
and then sneeze all over you. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
Really, sir, I must protest! | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
What is the matter with you, Darling? | 0:25:42 | 0:25:44 | |
-Well, it's just all so sudden, sir. -LAUGHTER | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
The kind of things we did in Blackadder, | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
like where I play a general, | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
is really like a schoolboy playing a teacher. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
It's because I was 28 or whatever when we did that Blackadder, | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
which is not an age you'd expect to be a general, | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
so there's something automatically funny about being younger | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
than the age of the person you're portraying. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
MUSIC: Theme from Jeeves And Wooster | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
Another moment where Hugh and I were allowed to stay together, | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
or maybe people just didn't believe we could ever do anything apart, | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
but we meet a man called Brian Eastman. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
He had obtained the rights and then told us | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
about it before we saw the script. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
I'd been addicted to PG Wodehouse | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
since I was ten years old. Absolutely addicted. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
I'd written to him when I was 14 | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
and had a letter back, which I still have. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:41 | |
"To Stephen Fry, all the best, PG Wodehouse." | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
Hugh also adored Wodehouse. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:46 | |
We talked on the way to the meeting with Brian | 0:26:46 | 0:26:51 | |
about whether or not we were going to say yes. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:53 | |
But then we... | 0:26:53 | 0:26:54 | |
Then we saw the first script, written by Clive Exton, | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
and I can remember going, | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
"Oh, my God, this guy is... | 0:26:59 | 0:27:01 | |
"He really knows how to do this." | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
I was sent by the agency, sir. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
I was given to understand that you required a valet. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
Very good, sir. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:18 | |
And then Hugh really put the clinching argument. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:23 | |
He said, "Well, yes, there is every possibility we'll ruin it, | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
"but he's obviously set on doing this, so if we don't ruin it, | 0:27:26 | 0:27:30 | |
"someone else is going to ruin it, and who would you rather ruin it?" | 0:27:30 | 0:27:34 | |
"It should be us. You're right. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:35 | |
"If anyone's going to ruin it, it should be us." | 0:27:35 | 0:27:37 | |
I'm afraid I couldn't bring myself to place the bet on Mr Little, sir. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:41 | |
What? | 0:27:41 | 0:27:42 | |
Jeeves, I distinctly told you... | 0:27:42 | 0:27:44 | |
Hmm... | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
You mean, we didn't lose the 100? | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
Indeed not, sir. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:51 | |
I took it into my head to put | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
what I believe is called in racing parlance "a bundle" | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
on Charlie Bembo at 15-to-1. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
-HE SIGHS -Jeeves, you're a wonder. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
Thank you, sir. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
The Aston Martin that we drove - a 1928, I think it was - | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
erm, the cocktail shakers, the glassware... | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
Even though there's a camera in your eye-line, | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
perhaps when you're doing that, | 0:28:18 | 0:28:19 | |
just handling these beautiful objects, | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
there's something just so marvellous. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
You feel for a second you are actually in the world, | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
because everything in your eye-line - | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
if you exclude the lamps and camera, | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
and you just somehow very quickly do when you get used to these things - | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
is of the world, | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
and it's a beautiful world - | 0:28:36 | 0:28:38 | |
an Art Deco world of beautiful objects and clothes. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:43 | |
And it was a thrill to do. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
It was... It was an immensely pleasurable experience. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:50 | |
Sort of too... Sort of embarrassingly pleasurable. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:54 | |
We should really have paid to do it. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:56 | |
I think we probably would have done, actually. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
There's concern for the actor Stephen Fry, | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
who unexpectedly left the cast of a West End play three days | 0:29:04 | 0:29:07 | |
after it opened and hasn't been seen since Monday. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:09 | |
The play's author said Stephen Fry was | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
in a state of emotional turmoil due to overwork, | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
but his parents say they're not anxious about his disappearance | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
because he has a great zest for life. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:19 | |
I think I'd done a play in the West End for... | 0:29:19 | 0:29:21 | |
Which Simon Gray had written. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
The Common Pursuit, with Rik Mayall and John Sessions. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
And then he called me up and said that he had a play that he'd like me | 0:29:27 | 0:29:32 | |
to look at, about Blake, George Blake - | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
the spy who escaped from Wormwood Scrubs - | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
and that play was called Cell Mates. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:40 | |
Again, with Rik Mayall. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:41 | |
And that's where, if you like, | 0:29:41 | 0:29:44 | |
my luck began to fizzle out. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:48 | |
I was round his flat, off Jermyn Street, | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
and we were having a drink, | 0:29:51 | 0:29:52 | |
and he said, "Have you seen this article in the Evening Standard?" | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
And it was the most cruel piece. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:57 | |
Just a general think piece, an opinion piece, about, | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
"Who is this guy? Why does he think he's so good? | 0:30:01 | 0:30:03 | |
"You know, he's smug. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:04 | |
"There's nothing particularly clever about him. I don't find him funny." | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
That, I think, was what really tipped him over the edge, | 0:30:07 | 0:30:11 | |
so I did see him very, very low, | 0:30:11 | 0:30:13 | |
and it was only a few days later that the reviews came out | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
for Cell Mates, and that, really, that was the end of it. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
I just couldn't take being in the play, or being in London. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:25 | |
I got in my car and drove to one of the Channel ports. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:32 | |
Folkestone, I think it was, yeah. And then to Zeebrugge. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:37 | |
I think that is one of those moments where | 0:30:37 | 0:30:41 | |
he ceased to become the driver of his own vehicle, as it were. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:46 | |
People often report, under situations of great stress, | 0:30:46 | 0:30:50 | |
report this kind of feeling of disconnection | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
from their own actions. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:55 | |
You know, "I woke up and I found myself"... | 0:30:55 | 0:30:57 | |
They use the phrase "waking up". | 0:30:57 | 0:30:59 | |
Instead of "I went there", they go, "I found myself there". | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
I found myself in Hamburg. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:08 | |
And I saw these rows of newspaper headlines, | 0:31:08 | 0:31:12 | |
"Fears For Fry" type thing. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
They all are worried that I've committed suicide, | 0:31:15 | 0:31:17 | |
that's the awful thing, isn't it? | 0:31:17 | 0:31:19 | |
I can't believe I made people worry so much. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
When you feel you can't go on, it's not just a phrase, | 0:31:22 | 0:31:25 | |
it's a reality. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:27 | |
I could not go on. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:29 | |
And I would have killed myself | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
if I didn't have the option of disappearing. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:34 | |
You know, it was not a great episode. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
But which of us has a life that consists only of great episodes? | 0:31:39 | 0:31:43 | |
But I slowly got myself together with the help of | 0:31:43 | 0:31:48 | |
the best and dearest of parents and the best and dearest of friends. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
It sort of all clarified. I saw doctors and things. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
And it was perfectly clear | 0:31:54 | 0:31:56 | |
there WAS something a little amiss with the wiring upstairs. | 0:31:56 | 0:32:00 | |
Rick Mayall, I don't think, ever forgave him for that. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
But another characteristic of Stephen is that, | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
if he does step over the mark, his apologies, | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
whether to the Twitterati, or to a television studio, are so fulsome | 0:32:09 | 0:32:13 | |
and so generous and so sincere that you forgive him instantly. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:17 | |
One of the greatest good fortunes I've had in my life is to be able | 0:32:23 | 0:32:27 | |
to be connected to the greatest heroes of my life. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:31 | |
Oscar Wilde, who meant everything to me, | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
who opened the doors of language to me, | 0:32:34 | 0:32:36 | |
and then, of course, made me examine the nature of my own sexuality, | 0:32:36 | 0:32:41 | |
and allowed me to be proud of it. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
He was an incredible man who never ceases to astonish me... | 0:32:44 | 0:32:48 | |
And his range and his influence... | 0:32:48 | 0:32:50 | |
His greatness... | 0:32:50 | 0:32:51 | |
And so, to be asked to play him in a film? | 0:32:51 | 0:32:55 | |
Will you ever let me see the children again? | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
Of course. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:01 | |
But there must be one condition. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:10 | |
Oscar, you must never see Bosie again. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
If I saw Bosie now, I'd kill him. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
I got to see that Stephen, and he told me, that he was nervous. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:28 | |
He was nervous to be playing this... | 0:33:28 | 0:33:29 | |
To be playing a lead in a film, for a start. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
Even though he's a wonderful actor, but I think he's very sensitive | 0:33:32 | 0:33:36 | |
to feeling nervous and feeling the stress of that kind of stuff. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:40 | |
And it's not something that he's necessarily been used to, | 0:33:40 | 0:33:42 | |
playing an out-and-out lead in a dramatic film. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
And the fact he was playing Oscar Wilde, | 0:33:45 | 0:33:46 | |
who was one of his great idols, | 0:33:46 | 0:33:48 | |
and that is no easy feat, to play someone like Oscar Wilde. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
I always wonder what she's thinking? | 0:33:51 | 0:33:53 | |
I expect it's about the baby. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:54 | |
OK, we missed the last line. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
I met someone who knew him. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
And apparently gave a very good impression. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
HIGH-PITCHED VOICE: And he spoke like this! | 0:34:03 | 0:34:05 | |
But the fact is it would be so appalling to sit through | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
a film of someone speaking like that. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
There's very little doubt that he did not have an Irish accent, | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
although he was born in Dublin. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:15 | |
He himself said that his Irish accent was one of the many things | 0:34:15 | 0:34:17 | |
he forgot at Oxford. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:19 | |
And, you know... | 0:34:19 | 0:34:21 | |
IRISH ACCENT: He's not talkin' loik dis, ye know? | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
It would be rather annoying, because I don't do it well enough. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:27 | |
They were honest with me. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:29 | |
They said, "Look, you bailed out of a West End production, | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
"so insurance companies are going to want to know | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
"that you're reliable if you're cast in the film. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
"Plus it may well be that the money just won't buy you as Oscar Wilde. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:43 | |
"They may want a proper film star." | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
I said, "I understand completely, of course I understand. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
"And if they want to... | 0:34:49 | 0:34:53 | |
"I'll pay extra for the insurance if it is extra, or whatever." | 0:34:53 | 0:34:57 | |
I didn't want to sound too desperate, | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
but I did want to show that I was very, very willing | 0:34:59 | 0:35:01 | |
to undergo any humiliation in order to play the part. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
And fortunately, there wasn't much humiliation. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:06 | |
There was a Japanese woman who represented a film fund. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:10 | |
I came in, and we talked about Wilde as seriously as possible. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
And I played down anything vulgar or cheap about the Oscar Wilde story. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:20 | |
And she said, "Oh, very good, yes. Nice to talk to you. Very good. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:25 | |
"Before you go, one question I need to ask - | 0:35:25 | 0:35:28 | |
"how much bumfuck in movie?" | 0:35:28 | 0:35:30 | |
Well! They might've warned me that question was coming! | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
So I said, "Just as much as is necessary, and no more." | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
Wonderful! | 0:35:41 | 0:35:43 | |
Do I understand that even a young boy you might pick up in the street | 0:35:43 | 0:35:47 | |
would be a pleasing companion? | 0:35:47 | 0:35:49 | |
I would talk to a street Arab with pleasure, if he would talk to me. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:53 | |
-And take him to your rooms? -Yes. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
And then commit improprieties with him! | 0:35:55 | 0:35:57 | |
CROWD GASPS | 0:35:57 | 0:35:59 | |
Certainly not. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:01 | |
The first time the thought had even crossed my mind, | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
I was in a restaurant called Joe Allen's, | 0:36:04 | 0:36:07 | |
which is a famous theatrical haunt in Covent Garden. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:11 | |
And I had gone to the loo, and I was washing my hands or something, | 0:36:11 | 0:36:17 | |
and a voice behind me said, | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
"You know, you should play Oscar Wilde one day." | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
And it was Alan Bennett! | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
And I just looked at my hair and I thought, well, yes! | 0:36:25 | 0:36:29 | |
The fact that the physical resemblance is uncanny. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:33 | |
Not just the physical resemblance, | 0:36:33 | 0:36:35 | |
but his whole sort of demeanour seemed to be Wildean. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
It was as if he was... | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
He was some sort of weird recreation of this, of Oscar. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:47 | |
Give a man a mask and he'll tell you the truth. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:49 | |
Have we had enough of this? | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
Shall we go and have dinner somewhere? | 0:36:54 | 0:36:56 | |
There are certain indelible things that | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
I will never forget about my relationship with Stephen, | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
one of which is that I've had sex with him. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:09 | |
I think, actually, it was my first sex scene I ever did. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:16 | |
It was with Stephen. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:17 | |
I was a lot more nervous than he was. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
Michael did the work. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:27 | |
Revealed the flesh far more than I did! | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
I was just a bit of kissing... | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
But he was charming. He was very, very good. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:34 | |
There has to be a first time for everything, Oscar. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:39 | |
There was a moment of seduction where my character seduces him. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:43 | |
I remember having to drop my trousers, | 0:37:43 | 0:37:45 | |
and it was just so ridiculous. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:47 | |
And so absurd, really. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:51 | |
But it broke the ice, I think. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
I feel... | 0:37:54 | 0:37:56 | |
Like a city that's been under siege for 20 years. | 0:37:56 | 0:38:01 | |
HE GIGGLES | 0:38:01 | 0:38:02 | |
And suddenly the gates are thrown open. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
The citizens come pouring out. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
You know, filming can be awful. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:14 | |
Sometimes you've got to grit your teeth and make love to Michael Sheen | 0:38:14 | 0:38:18 | |
and Ioan Gruffudd and Jude Law. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
And just have done with it. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
You've just got to do it. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:24 | |
Huh. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:25 | |
And action! | 0:38:25 | 0:38:27 | |
FLAPPER MUSIC | 0:38:27 | 0:38:29 | |
I had been asked on a few occasions | 0:38:34 | 0:38:35 | |
whether I'd consider directing a film. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
And I always felt that if you were going to direct a film, | 0:38:38 | 0:38:42 | |
given how much time it took, | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
that it better be something that really meant something to you. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
And so the first project that really did make me think, | 0:38:47 | 0:38:51 | |
"I could see myself giving up 18 months, | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
"two years of my life to this", | 0:38:54 | 0:38:56 | |
was Vile Bodies, the novel by Evelyn Waugh. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
Cut. Thank you! | 0:39:01 | 0:39:03 | |
I was really, really excited about the idea of him directing this. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:07 | |
It just seemed to make such sense. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
I remember, when we were working on Wilde, he would always ask about, "What's the lens?" | 0:39:09 | 0:39:13 | |
He's fascinated by the technical aspects of it as well. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:15 | |
The thing he was most concerned about was directing actors. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
It was almost rude of him, he felt, | 0:39:18 | 0:39:20 | |
to give you notes or give you direction. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
And I know that gave him a lot of anxiety. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:27 | |
Do you think he could help us by not standing up quite so suddenly? | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
-Right, yes. -I mean, don't do a false, movie actor's slow rise, | 0:39:30 | 0:39:35 | |
but not quite such a spring would be fine. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
I'm worried, as a director, my problem is that I'm just too | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
thrilled with everything that happens. "That's wonderful!" | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
There was a rather silly moment where, in a long scene | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
involving quite a few people, about five people... | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
That's Mr Whatsisname, | 0:39:50 | 0:39:51 | |
and, over there in the corner, that's the Major. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:55 | |
And that's an American judge, | 0:39:55 | 0:39:56 | |
and there's the King of Pomerania. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:59 | |
Anatolia, actually. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:01 | |
But, alas, no longer. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:03 | |
And there was a line of them at the end, and I said "cut!", | 0:40:03 | 0:40:07 | |
and Simon Callow, who was fabulous in the film, | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
and he was at the end of this line... | 0:40:10 | 0:40:11 | |
And I went down the line saying, | 0:40:11 | 0:40:13 | |
"Wonderful, fantastic, marvellous, miraculous, unbelievable! | 0:40:13 | 0:40:17 | |
And Simon said, "I don't think you want to tell an actor that | 0:40:17 | 0:40:20 | |
"he's just been unbelievable." | 0:40:20 | 0:40:22 | |
He was very good about being specific about certain | 0:40:22 | 0:40:24 | |
pronunciations of certain things. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:26 | |
Or the rules, the etiquette, the code of that world. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
He was brilliant at that. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:31 | |
And that helps a lot, as an actor, I think. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:33 | |
I come from a town - Port Talbot, in South Wales - | 0:40:33 | 0:40:38 | |
that's very different to the world of Bright Young Things, | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
so I'm never quite sure about how that kind of stuff works. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:43 | |
So it makes you feel a lot more confident when you've got | 0:40:43 | 0:40:46 | |
someone like Stephen who can really support you in all that. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
What strange ancestors you have, Jane. All so serious-looking. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:54 | |
It's as if they're gazing into my soul | 0:40:54 | 0:40:56 | |
and finding something rather horrid. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:58 | |
Well, they probably are. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:01 | |
The book, Vile Bodies, was dedicated to Mr and Mrs Bryan Guinness. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:06 | |
But that's actually Diana Mitford, one of the famous Mitford sisters. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:10 | |
But her sister, Deborah Mitford, Debo, as she's known, | 0:41:10 | 0:41:15 | |
married the Duke of Devonshire. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:17 | |
You're thinking, "Why are you telling me this, Stephen?" | 0:41:17 | 0:41:19 | |
I cheekily called her up and said, | 0:41:19 | 0:41:22 | |
"Look, you knew the world of these Bright Young Things." | 0:41:22 | 0:41:26 | |
"Yes, dear, yes?" | 0:41:26 | 0:41:27 | |
I said, "Can I bring my actors to come and see you? | 0:41:27 | 0:41:31 | |
"Because they're very, very good, | 0:41:31 | 0:41:33 | |
"but they're sort of doing a middle-class 1920s accent." | 0:41:33 | 0:41:37 | |
She said, "Of course, dear, of course." | 0:41:37 | 0:41:39 | |
She said, "I've made a few notes," she was so wonderful, | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
"I suppose I would say this, that the | 0:41:42 | 0:41:44 | |
"middle classes, if they were surprised, they would say 'Oh!' | 0:41:44 | 0:41:49 | |
"You see? One short, sharp syllable. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:51 | |
"Whereas we'd say, well, at least three syllables, 'Oh-ooh-oooh!' | 0:41:51 | 0:41:56 | |
And they all, of course... | 0:41:57 | 0:41:58 | |
That's just the sort of thing an actor or actress likes to hear. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
They can get their fingers into that. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:03 | |
"Oh-ooh-oooh." Isn't that marvellous?! | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
# I want to be in America | 0:42:08 | 0:42:10 | |
# OK by me in America | 0:42:10 | 0:42:12 | |
# Everything free in America | 0:42:12 | 0:42:14 | |
# For a small fee in America. # | 0:42:14 | 0:42:20 | |
The format for Stephen Fry In America was my idea, | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
that of visiting every state. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:25 | |
And it occurred to me, with almost a shock, if you like, | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
that I'd never seen a programme which tackled America | 0:42:28 | 0:42:32 | |
as what it is, a federation of states. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
I thought it'd be worth visiting every state. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:37 | |
There are 50 of them - it's a nice round number. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
That taxi actually came from Chicago. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
From a fish and chip restaurant in Chicago. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:46 | |
And it was used to drive customers if they were drunk. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
You know, a fish and chip restaurant in Chicago will serve wine | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
and beer, obviously. Unlike the ones in England. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:54 | |
It was a courtesy car, I think is the phrase. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:57 | |
I drive one around London, | 0:43:00 | 0:43:02 | |
and it seemed like a good kind of badge to have in the middle | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 | |
of the Wild West or the swamps of the Everglades, or whatever. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:09 | |
America is a phenomenally exciting place | 0:43:12 | 0:43:14 | |
and I think a lot of British people | 0:43:14 | 0:43:16 | |
have that sense of America's myth in them, | 0:43:16 | 0:43:19 | |
and they really envy me, | 0:43:19 | 0:43:21 | |
the idea of driving through all the states. Especially men. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:25 | |
Men have a particular obsession with driving through America. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:28 | |
Probably in a Mustang, I don't know what it is. | 0:43:28 | 0:43:31 | |
Good boy. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:32 | |
-No, don't do that to me. -You're on you own! Have fun! | 0:43:32 | 0:43:35 | |
Don't do that to me. | 0:43:35 | 0:43:36 | |
He's not going to jump over the fence, is he? | 0:43:36 | 0:43:39 | |
Good boy. | 0:43:39 | 0:43:40 | |
No, no, whoa! | 0:43:40 | 0:43:42 | |
Calm down, whoa! | 0:43:42 | 0:43:43 | |
Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! | 0:43:43 | 0:43:45 | |
Whoa! Whoa! | 0:43:45 | 0:43:47 | |
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:50 | |
Whoa! Whoa. | 0:43:50 | 0:43:52 | |
Stephen, I don't know what to tell you, | 0:43:52 | 0:43:54 | |
I apologise, this has never happened before. | 0:43:54 | 0:43:57 | |
Let me tell you, it's always happened with me. | 0:43:57 | 0:43:59 | |
Whenever I've been on a horse, the horse's owner goes, | 0:43:59 | 0:44:02 | |
"That's strange, he's never done that before." | 0:44:02 | 0:44:05 | |
Oh, well, we got it. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:06 | |
Never, ever again. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:08 | |
Never, you understand? | 0:44:08 | 0:44:10 | |
I've had a period now of about 10, 15 years nearly | 0:44:10 | 0:44:14 | |
of making documentaries. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:16 | |
Which is something I never thought I would do, | 0:44:16 | 0:44:18 | |
and I've really enjoyed that. | 0:44:18 | 0:44:19 | |
Both travelogues of the more traditional type... | 0:44:19 | 0:44:22 | |
Hey, hello! | 0:44:22 | 0:44:23 | |
..and ones like the manic depression and me, | 0:44:23 | 0:44:27 | |
and the one about Aids I did, and various other subjects that are, | 0:44:27 | 0:44:30 | |
if you like, a little more serious, a little more personal. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:34 | |
I'm starting in Uganda, a country that seems to be | 0:44:34 | 0:44:37 | |
going backwards in its treatment of gay people. | 0:44:37 | 0:44:40 | |
Since 2009, its government has been considering passing a new law | 0:44:44 | 0:44:49 | |
which proposes a death penalty for homosexuals. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:53 | |
It is not permissible in Uganda for single sex relationship. Finished! | 0:44:55 | 0:45:00 | |
And if you're advocating that, I'm sorry, | 0:45:00 | 0:45:03 | |
I will treat you as a destructor of Uganda's ideologies. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:07 | |
Homosexuality is fantastic, you should try it. It's really good fun. | 0:45:07 | 0:45:10 | |
-I will arrest you, I will arrest you. -I'm not having sex with people! | 0:45:10 | 0:45:13 | |
And I wouldn't want someone who wasn't gay to have it. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:15 | |
But if you are gay, it's wonderful. | 0:45:15 | 0:45:17 | |
Ross Wilson, a BBC producer who came to see me, | 0:45:17 | 0:45:20 | |
and we talked about making two films for the BBC | 0:45:20 | 0:45:25 | |
about the nature of manic depression/bipolar disorder. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:29 | |
It's an odd way to recover from a particularly bad episode, | 0:45:29 | 0:45:32 | |
then to throw yourself into talking about it. | 0:45:32 | 0:45:34 | |
And one thing I never want to be, I hope, | 0:45:34 | 0:45:36 | |
is a professional mad person and professional bipolar disorder figure. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:42 | |
Did you regard it as a very serious step, to section people? | 0:45:42 | 0:45:46 | |
I think it's a hugely serious step to section people. | 0:45:46 | 0:45:49 | |
What they don't have is insight into their illness and behaviour. | 0:45:49 | 0:45:54 | |
And that's obviously why sections were originally invented. | 0:45:54 | 0:45:57 | |
To be able to keep someone safe when their natural instinct, | 0:45:57 | 0:46:02 | |
because of their illness, would not be to do it themselves. | 0:46:02 | 0:46:06 | |
So the vast majority of people you talk to who have been | 0:46:06 | 0:46:10 | |
sectioned will say to you, "I've got absolutely no idea | 0:46:10 | 0:46:13 | |
"why I was sectioned, I was perfectly all right." | 0:46:13 | 0:46:15 | |
And then you find out they were hanging out of a window | 0:46:15 | 0:46:19 | |
by one hand, naked. | 0:46:19 | 0:46:20 | |
What the hell do we do, you know? | 0:46:20 | 0:46:23 | |
For him to reveal the things that are most troubling for him, | 0:46:23 | 0:46:28 | |
that have given him a lot of difficulty in his life, | 0:46:28 | 0:46:31 | |
and to be honest and vulnerable and open about that, | 0:46:31 | 0:46:33 | |
that has connected with people, and he's done that time and time again. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:37 | |
Aside from all the other wonderful qualities he has. | 0:46:37 | 0:46:39 | |
And that, I think, is what makes him truly remarkable. | 0:46:39 | 0:46:42 | |
Kingdom was a delight to make, a wonderful group of actors | 0:46:49 | 0:46:54 | |
coming up to Norfolk to be part of our little world over three series. | 0:46:54 | 0:46:59 | |
It has a particular vibe, Norfolk, | 0:46:59 | 0:47:02 | |
and that, of course, is where Stephen is from. | 0:47:02 | 0:47:05 | |
We set out, with Kingdom, to make, yes, absolutely, | 0:47:05 | 0:47:08 | |
unapologetic, cosy, Sunday-evening television. | 0:47:08 | 0:47:10 | |
But also, there are a lot of juxtapositions between cosiness | 0:47:10 | 0:47:16 | |
and real terror and weirdness. | 0:47:16 | 0:47:19 | |
Mr Snell, you're an aggravating nuisance, a tiresome pedant, | 0:47:19 | 0:47:22 | |
and a complete genius. | 0:47:22 | 0:47:25 | |
-That land cannot be developed without your permission. -I know! | 0:47:25 | 0:47:29 | |
I played Beatrice Kingdom, his mad, borderline personality sister. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:33 | |
-Where is the marmalade? -Orange or grapefruit? -Grapefruit. | 0:47:33 | 0:47:38 | |
Top right, second shelf, third from the left. | 0:47:38 | 0:47:40 | |
To see her being this really off-the-scale kind of a creature | 0:47:42 | 0:47:48 | |
was truly wonderful. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:51 | |
And yet, you know, not far off a lot of people's experiences. | 0:47:51 | 0:47:56 | |
Peter, she's taped my chair to the desk! | 0:47:56 | 0:47:59 | |
-Oh, dear. -Any suggestions? | 0:47:59 | 0:48:01 | |
Erm... | 0:48:01 | 0:48:03 | |
Oh, look, what does this say? | 0:48:03 | 0:48:05 | |
Scissors, apparently. Could try those? | 0:48:05 | 0:48:08 | |
He has an enormous energy, and an enormous presence on set. | 0:48:11 | 0:48:15 | |
He's just incredibly entertaining to be around. You're never bored. | 0:48:15 | 0:48:19 | |
He's an amazing raconteur, always telling stories, | 0:48:19 | 0:48:23 | |
doing 150,000 things at once, on his iPhone... | 0:48:23 | 0:48:27 | |
To be without coverage in the 21st-century is just... I don't know. | 0:48:27 | 0:48:32 | |
He's an incredibly vivacious, gregarious man. Very entertaining. | 0:48:32 | 0:48:36 | |
If I went back in time and saw my little 11-year-old self | 0:48:40 | 0:48:44 | |
pounding away on a bicycle, and said, | 0:48:44 | 0:48:47 | |
"Do you know, in a few years' time, | 0:48:47 | 0:48:50 | |
"you'll be in a flash convertible car with a film crew and a camera, | 0:48:50 | 0:48:55 | |
"shooting down on you as you drive along", I would wet myself. | 0:48:55 | 0:49:01 | |
And I would also, of course, fail to believe it. | 0:49:01 | 0:49:04 | |
John Lloyd, with whom I'd had a long and happy relationship | 0:49:16 | 0:49:19 | |
since leaving university, really. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:21 | |
Since writing that first little sketch for Not The Nine O'Clock News | 0:49:21 | 0:49:25 | |
and then all the way through the Blackadders... | 0:49:25 | 0:49:28 | |
He took me to lunch and he laid out this idea of a series. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:36 | |
Stephen wasn't designed as the host of QI, | 0:49:36 | 0:49:38 | |
he was meant to be captain of the clever team, | 0:49:38 | 0:49:40 | |
as Alan Davies was captain of the ignorant team, | 0:49:40 | 0:49:43 | |
and the nice Mr Palin, Michael Palin in the middle. | 0:49:43 | 0:49:45 | |
When Mike turned it down, because he didn't think | 0:49:45 | 0:49:48 | |
he was clever enough, and because he was tired after spending months | 0:49:48 | 0:49:51 | |
in the Sahara, I honestly thought that was the end of the programme. | 0:49:51 | 0:49:55 | |
I thought it wouldn't work if it wasn't like that. | 0:49:55 | 0:49:58 | |
So I kind of begged Stephen if he would stand in just for the pilot. | 0:49:59 | 0:50:03 | |
I said, "No, no, I'd like to do anything except that." | 0:50:03 | 0:50:06 | |
No, because that's the boring bit, you're the schoolmaster, | 0:50:06 | 0:50:10 | |
and I would like to be one of the... | 0:50:10 | 0:50:12 | |
He said, "Just for the pilot." | 0:50:12 | 0:50:15 | |
First question, who or what is Bobo Fing? | 0:50:15 | 0:50:20 | |
-Erm... -WHISTLE | 0:50:20 | 0:50:22 | |
BELL AND HORN Bill... | 0:50:22 | 0:50:23 | |
Pigeon! | 0:50:25 | 0:50:26 | |
The answer is a language spoken in Mali, | 0:50:26 | 0:50:30 | |
where 10,000 people are fluent in Bobo Fing. | 0:50:30 | 0:50:32 | |
Not to be confused with Burkina Faso, where they speak just Bobo. | 0:50:32 | 0:50:36 | |
Or Tanzania where more than ten million people speak Gogo. | 0:50:36 | 0:50:41 | |
Within five minutes of him starting the show, | 0:50:41 | 0:50:45 | |
you could see this is the job he was born to do. | 0:50:45 | 0:50:48 | |
Stephen showed in the pilot that he would be fantastic. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:52 | |
In 1992, the French government relaxed their ruling on the | 0:50:52 | 0:50:55 | |
formal list of what French children could be legally christened. | 0:50:55 | 0:50:59 | |
Jean-Pierre, Jean-Michel, Marie-Claire, Jean-Marie, | 0:50:59 | 0:51:01 | |
Tintin, Babar, Comte de Frou Frou... | 0:51:01 | 0:51:03 | |
And the following year, after relaxing these laws, | 0:51:03 | 0:51:06 | |
the most popular name for a baby French boy was Kevin. | 0:51:06 | 0:51:09 | |
And then, about a week later, Lloydy, John Lloyd rings me up. | 0:51:12 | 0:51:16 | |
And says, "The BBC are thrilled with it, | 0:51:16 | 0:51:18 | |
"they would like to make a series." | 0:51:18 | 0:51:19 | |
I said, "Hooray!" | 0:51:19 | 0:51:20 | |
"As long as you're the chairman." | 0:51:20 | 0:51:22 | |
"Oh..." | 0:51:22 | 0:51:23 | |
So, fair enough. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:27 | |
I was fighting something that shouldn't have been fought. | 0:51:28 | 0:51:31 | |
It was natural for me to be the chairman, I think. | 0:51:31 | 0:51:33 | |
I have that awful, pompous, chairmany sort of manner. | 0:51:33 | 0:51:38 | |
And where better to start than right at the beginning, | 0:51:38 | 0:51:40 | |
with a round of questions on Adam and Eve? | 0:51:40 | 0:51:43 | |
Underneath all his scabrous wit, | 0:51:43 | 0:51:49 | |
he's such an enthusiast. He loves stuff. | 0:51:49 | 0:51:53 | |
As a child, I did embarrassingly collect facts | 0:51:53 | 0:51:56 | |
in a very QI sort of way. | 0:51:56 | 0:51:57 | |
And I probably would have loved, at least, | 0:51:57 | 0:51:59 | |
I know I would have loved QI, when I was a child. | 0:51:59 | 0:52:03 | |
I learned whole swathes of the Guinness Book Of Records. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:08 | |
I mean, how utterly weird and wrong is that? | 0:52:08 | 0:52:12 | |
Who invented, ladies and gentlemen, the telephone? | 0:52:12 | 0:52:15 | |
I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to say it. | 0:52:15 | 0:52:18 | |
It was Antonio Meucci, Italian-born scientist, | 0:52:19 | 0:52:23 | |
invented the telephone. | 0:52:23 | 0:52:25 | |
He'd perfected it by 1871, couldn't afford the patent... | 0:52:25 | 0:52:28 | |
But do you know what happened? | 0:52:28 | 0:52:30 | |
It was being assessed for a patent in the offices of Western Union, | 0:52:30 | 0:52:33 | |
and it fell into the hands of a young, Scottish engineer | 0:52:33 | 0:52:36 | |
-called Alexander Graham Bell. -"I am nicking that!" -Boo! | 0:52:36 | 0:52:39 | |
And he grabbed the chance and patented it in his own name. | 0:52:39 | 0:52:42 | |
Meucci took him to court, but died before the judgment was given, | 0:52:42 | 0:52:46 | |
leaving Bell to claim his place in history. | 0:52:46 | 0:52:49 | |
-What do we say to Alexander Graham Bell? -You -BEEP. -Boo! | 0:52:49 | 0:52:51 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:52:51 | 0:52:53 | |
We cannot underestimate how he just holds the whole thing together. | 0:52:57 | 0:53:02 | |
I've been on lots of panel shows. I've sat in a lot of studios, | 0:53:03 | 0:53:06 | |
often for hours, thinking, "Is this ever going to end?" | 0:53:06 | 0:53:11 | |
8 Out Of 10 Cats. | 0:53:12 | 0:53:14 | |
Stephen makes the whole thing like an evening round his house, somehow. | 0:53:16 | 0:53:22 | |
He's so conscious, he would never want anyone to not have their | 0:53:22 | 0:53:25 | |
glass filled or be bored, you know? | 0:53:25 | 0:53:27 | |
-Would you like a chocolate ant? -I'll suck it. | 0:53:27 | 0:53:30 | |
-Would you? -No! | 0:53:30 | 0:53:33 | |
-Are you going to risk any one of these? -I'll have a look at them. | 0:53:33 | 0:53:35 | |
If I had a chocolate ant, would you have one? | 0:53:35 | 0:53:38 | |
I'll let you go first. | 0:53:38 | 0:53:40 | |
-I've eaten it. -Yeah, I'm not really bothered, to be honest with you. | 0:53:40 | 0:53:44 | |
The time when he really lost it | 0:53:44 | 0:53:46 | |
was when we were doing a thing about the Parthenon. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:50 | |
They say of the Acrop...Acropolis, where the Parthenon is... | 0:53:50 | 0:53:53 | |
Burble-bee-ba-ba-doo. | 0:53:53 | 0:53:55 | |
-They say of the Acropolis, where the Parthenon is... -Are those the magic words? | 0:53:55 | 0:53:58 | |
They say of the Acropolis, where the Parthenon is, that they... | 0:53:58 | 0:54:03 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:54:03 | 0:54:05 | |
Turns out, they didn't say anything at all. | 0:54:09 | 0:54:11 | |
He couldn't say it. He kept stumbling over his words. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:13 | |
Which is most unlike him. Normally we get to the end of a recording, | 0:54:13 | 0:54:16 | |
and there may be one thing, or two things for pickups. | 0:54:16 | 0:54:19 | |
He really doesn't fluff. | 0:54:19 | 0:54:21 | |
And he kept stumbling over his words, and then we all | 0:54:21 | 0:54:24 | |
joined in in mocking him and mimicking him, | 0:54:24 | 0:54:26 | |
and turned it into a song. | 0:54:26 | 0:54:27 | |
They say of the Acropolis, where the Parthenon is... | 0:54:27 | 0:54:31 | |
-# Theeeyyyy say of the Acropolis -Everyone! | 0:54:33 | 0:54:35 | |
# Where the Parthenon is | 0:54:35 | 0:54:37 | |
-ALL: -# They say of the Acropolis | 0:54:37 | 0:54:38 | |
# Where the Parthenon is | 0:54:38 | 0:54:40 | |
# They say of the Acropolis | 0:54:40 | 0:54:41 | |
# Where the Parthenon is | 0:54:41 | 0:54:43 | |
# They say of the Acropolis | 0:54:43 | 0:54:44 | |
# Where the Parthenon iiiissss | 0:54:44 | 0:54:46 | |
# They say of the Acropolis | 0:54:46 | 0:54:47 | |
-# Where the Parthenon is. # -Fight, fight, fight, fight! | 0:54:47 | 0:54:50 | |
Bloody hell, Stephen. | 0:54:50 | 0:54:52 | |
This better be good! | 0:54:52 | 0:54:53 | |
QI is by far and away the happiest show on television in any genre, | 0:54:56 | 0:54:59 | |
I guarantee you. People come, they stay. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:02 | |
Except Stephen, sadly, | 0:55:02 | 0:55:03 | |
who is retiring halfway through the alphabet, after the M series. | 0:55:03 | 0:55:07 | |
He would never have wanted any fuss. | 0:55:14 | 0:55:18 | |
If there was a hint of a little bit of fuss | 0:55:18 | 0:55:20 | |
about the fact that he's leaving... | 0:55:20 | 0:55:23 | |
if we'd invited Hugh Laurie or somebody like that, | 0:55:23 | 0:55:25 | |
he would've gone, "Oh, God!", | 0:55:25 | 0:55:27 | |
and run for the hills. | 0:55:27 | 0:55:28 | |
If he was going to leave, it was always going to be | 0:55:28 | 0:55:31 | |
in the quietest possible way, from a distance, by e-mail. | 0:55:31 | 0:55:35 | |
So I was saddened, but not surprised, really. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:41 | |
I felt, in recent years, it's been a bit of a squeeze on the show, | 0:55:41 | 0:55:46 | |
and we have to compact the recordings, | 0:55:46 | 0:55:48 | |
we have to do three shows in a 24-hour period each week. | 0:55:48 | 0:55:51 | |
And it's pretty tough going, it's not fun like it used to be. | 0:55:51 | 0:55:55 | |
# I never thought | 0:55:55 | 0:55:57 | |
# One day, you'd be gone. # | 0:55:57 | 0:55:59 | |
Well, I'm leaving QI, really, because I honestly think 13 years is enough. | 0:55:59 | 0:56:04 | |
It's been incredibly good fun, | 0:56:04 | 0:56:05 | |
I wouldn't want to feel stale or for it to go sour on me | 0:56:05 | 0:56:09 | |
in that sort of way where I feel I'm treading water or repeating myself. | 0:56:09 | 0:56:13 | |
And I do think it's a good enough idea to have another host, | 0:56:13 | 0:56:16 | |
and Sandi Toksvig couldn't be a better choice. | 0:56:16 | 0:56:19 | |
So I'm very happy for the show to go on without me, really, | 0:56:19 | 0:56:23 | |
and find other things to do. | 0:56:23 | 0:56:25 | |
It's been a very odd life in terms of the mixtures. | 0:56:29 | 0:56:32 | |
A very fortunate one, really, but I also would hate to stop acting. | 0:56:32 | 0:56:38 | |
I love film acting and I love acting in TV dramas and things. And writing. | 0:56:38 | 0:56:42 | |
So I hope to continue to write | 0:56:42 | 0:56:43 | |
and enjoy the pleasures of age that come to an actor when he | 0:56:43 | 0:56:48 | |
can play characters who don't have to worry about how they look. | 0:56:48 | 0:56:52 | |
What is the meaning of this?! | 0:56:55 | 0:56:57 | |
We caught them stealing weapons, Sire. | 0:56:57 | 0:56:59 | |
Ah, enemies of the state, eh? | 0:56:59 | 0:57:02 | |
I think people only take someone to their hearts in the way | 0:57:02 | 0:57:06 | |
that our nation has taken someone like Stephen to their hearts, | 0:57:06 | 0:57:10 | |
if they believe that that person is really giving | 0:57:10 | 0:57:12 | |
something of themselves and being genuine. | 0:57:12 | 0:57:16 | |
He likes people. He likes funny people. | 0:57:16 | 0:57:18 | |
Yes. | 0:57:22 | 0:57:23 | |
And if you get a text from him or an e-mail from him, | 0:57:26 | 0:57:28 | |
it's always got a little hint of humour. | 0:57:28 | 0:57:30 | |
This kind of energy about him, he's quite a life force. | 0:57:30 | 0:57:35 | |
# Row, row, row your punt | 0:57:35 | 0:57:36 | |
# Gently down the stream! | 0:57:36 | 0:57:38 | |
# Belts off, trousers down | 0:57:38 | 0:57:40 | |
# Isn't life a scream? # | 0:57:40 | 0:57:41 | |
Let's address the facts of the case. | 0:57:43 | 0:57:45 | |
Stephen is immensely clever, immensely funny and immensely kind. | 0:57:45 | 0:57:51 | |
Those three things are really enough to take the day. | 0:57:51 | 0:57:58 | |
If... I don't play gin rummy, but I imagine | 0:57:58 | 0:58:01 | |
if you had those three cards in your hand... | 0:58:01 | 0:58:03 | |
you go "gin!", don't you? | 0:58:03 | 0:58:05 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, what a night, what a lady, what a knight. | 0:58:06 | 0:58:10 | |
I join with Meryl Streep in wanting to spank you all. | 0:58:13 | 0:58:16 | |
It only remains for me to add something obscene | 0:58:21 | 0:58:24 | |
and offensive that can't be edited out. | 0:58:24 | 0:58:27 | |
You've being kind, you've been delightfully cartilaginous, | 0:58:27 | 0:58:30 | |
and you will never understand how much I love you. | 0:58:30 | 0:58:32 | |
Good night, thank you very much. APPLAUSE | 0:58:32 | 0:58:35 |