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City tours, folks. Hop on, hop off. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
Please stop harassing these women. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:05 | |
Well, it's like | 0:00:05 | 0:00:06 | |
a dog-eat-dog show out there, you know? | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
People want people on their buses, | 0:00:08 | 0:00:10 | |
and they'll do anything, sometimes, to, you know, provoke you. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
I'm being very gentlemanly. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
I do apologise, I am trying to speak to you, | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
but this guy keeps interrupting. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:20 | |
There's a gold rush on the streets of Belfast. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:25 | |
That's our eighth bus going out now, full - top and bottom. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
Bring it on. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:29 | |
I could sell snow to the Eskimo, sand to the Arabs, | 0:00:29 | 0:00:34 | |
and fries to us boys, not a problem. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
Last year, well over two million people visited Northern Ireland. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
This is where I'm looking forward to seeing something about the Titanic. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
Some wanted to see the sights. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
It's a fairly impressive city, isn't it? | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
-It's very impressive. -Beautiful. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
Some came to soak up the TV stardust. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:01 | |
That's the father's names... | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
And some were returning to a place they haven't seen in a lifetime. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:09 | |
Oh, my goodness, I AM home, aren't I? | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
This is the inside story of Northern Ireland's Bus Wars. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
THEY CHEER | 0:01:18 | 0:01:19 | |
From the tourists who come here... | 0:01:19 | 0:01:21 | |
I've been to some of the other wonders of the world - | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
it definitely ranks right up there, it was fantastic. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
-The clutch is out of it. -BLEEP! | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
..to the parts of the business that nobody else gets to see. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
The way the tours are run in Belfast at the moment, it's really a war. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
Welcome to Bus Wars. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
Nicky, what the hell way have you got this? | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
Take this arm out. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:55 | |
Some mechanic you are, Nicky! | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
Right, that's you now. That's it. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
-Nicky and I probably have a love/hate relationship. -HE LAUGHS | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
Some days it goes well, some days it doesn't. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
We're looking for a manual, six-speed Volvo gearbox. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
That's automatic... | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
Did you check ALL those ones there, Nicky? | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
I just like scrap, and getting bits you need, and you want bits, | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
you know what I mean? | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
What's that...? | 0:02:41 | 0:02:42 | |
Some of the buses are old and you can't get the bits no more, know what I mean? | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
And you see something, you say, "See, look at that there, | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
"we've been looking for that." And you can get it, know what I mean? | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
This one? | 0:02:50 | 0:02:51 | |
It's like kids going in a sweet shop, isn't it? | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
I just like going to the scrapyards. That makes my day. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
Love 'em. | 0:02:58 | 0:02:59 | |
Great, heaven. If we could only find the box, we'll be all right. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
Know what I mean? | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
We're not having any luck here. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
MUSIC: Steptoe And Son Theme | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
That's one of my old buses, sitting ready for the scrap. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:19 | |
It's a bit sad when you see them like that. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
I'd prefer them to be out on the road. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
There's something there... | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
HE GRUNTS | 0:03:26 | 0:03:27 | |
This one got past us. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
Obviously a cat's been living on it for a while. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
Lovely! | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
You come out of these scrapyards, | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
you're just black with dirt and muck and... Oh, terrible | 0:03:45 | 0:03:49 | |
but...you've got this van full of stuff that you just can't buy | 0:03:49 | 0:03:53 | |
any more. So it's very, very satisfying, yeah. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
Looks familiar to me. | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
Well, if the clutch fits, that's the starters. Right? | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
You understand? That's the push, that's what it is. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
CLICK | 0:04:06 | 0:04:07 | |
-That doesn't matter. -What happened there? | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
Well, I've pushed the clutch forward. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
That looks good to me. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:13 | |
-That fits. -I've made a decision, | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
I think we'll go for it. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
It's not in the bus yet, it's not working, but it's a good chance, | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
a good opportunity. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
So we may as well take it. I'm going to go and pay the man now. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
This is the hard bit, isn't it? | 0:04:29 | 0:04:30 | |
These days, Benn Allen runs budget coach tours of the north coast, | 0:04:33 | 0:04:38 | |
but four years ago he ran a city centre open-top bus company. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:43 | |
Back then, it was a tough and aggressive industry. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
Benn was even convicted of disorderly behaviour after an argument on the street, | 0:04:46 | 0:04:51 | |
and he says he was often on the receiving end, too. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
I've been attacked in broad daylight at half nine in the morning on my | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
own bus. There's been windows broken... Just complete madness. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:03 | |
But Benn's biggest problem was his frequent run-ins with the authorities. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:10 | |
Got a few fines for running extra tours, | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
but the fines are only about 200 quid, | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
and that would be maybe for running, like, 30 extra tours, | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
so it was well worth it. So I just went into court, took the fine, | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
laughed it off. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
Eventually, he was spending more time in courtrooms than on buses, | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
so four years ago Benn decided to sell his business, | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
to concentrate on private coach tours of the Giant's Causeway. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
I thought it was a good idea really to get out of town for a couple of years, | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
let things cool down and sort things out. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
So that's why I approached the owners of Titanic and City Tours. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
Every day, Benn sees his old buses driving around Belfast. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:51 | |
Now, he wants them back. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
Looks great, doesn't it? | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
This would be one of my favourites, | 0:05:58 | 0:05:59 | |
and as you can see it's still in great nick, | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
and that's what I'd really like to have back myself, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
and me run them in the town. I sort of miss it. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
We must walk about nine miles a day. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
I know. You walk about six of them in and out of the toilet. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
You have to be erm... | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
-Outgoing. -Outgoing. -No point being shy in this job. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
Just drink your water, man. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
No, I need to... | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
Alfie and Owen both used to work for Benn. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
Alfie isn't ONE of the best in the town, he's THE best in the town, | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
always was. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
He could do the work of, easily, six men. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
It was great, because he was on our side. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
'Alfie's a very passionate person within the bus tours.' | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
I told you, there's only one sheriff in this town! | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
He's very dedicated to this job. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
I think he actually takes leaflets home and papers his walls with them. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:04 | |
If you buy a ticket for this, | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
then you get the Giant's Causeway for 20 quid. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
If you haven't done the city tour, then you have to pay 25. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
20 quid means £20. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
Yeah, yeah, that's OK. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:14 | |
-Now... -He knows what quid means! | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
That's Belfast talk. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
He thinks everybody's as stupid as he is. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
I'm from Australia. He's right. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
Thank you, sir, thank you! | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
Told you. Alfie, you could learn a thing or two of me, let me tell you. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
Are you as stupid as he is? Apologise for your stupidity. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
No, no, no, my question is, for 20 quid, you have the entry of... | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
No, it's £20 - now I'm correcting YOU! | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
Now you're getting the Belfast lingo! | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
When Alfie and Owen worked for Benn, | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
Allen's Tours was seen as a Protestant company. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
CHEERING | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
There's the heat starting now. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
But when Benn wanted to sell, | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
the only potential buyers were a group of Catholic businessmen. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
We didn't really care who owned it. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:16 | |
We just didn't like City Sightseeing, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
and we'd have went to any company that was going up against them. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
Now we're being bought over by... | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
-someone from the other side of the community. -Watch what you say! | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
-Martin, how are you? -All right, how's it going? | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
This is Martin Lands - Martin went to school with me, | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
we grew up together in the Beechmount area, you know? | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
Former boxer Sean Donnelly, along with brothers Gerard and Paddy Rogan, | 0:08:40 | 0:08:45 | |
run Titanic and City Tours. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
It was a Protestant company, and we were a Catholic company. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
What I did, I got involved, I went into their offices, | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
which is on the Sandy Row. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
At the start, all those lads thought, | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
"These guys are from the Falls Road, they're going to let us go." | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
And Sean showed his hand. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
-What are yous having? -I think I'm going to go for the Ulster. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
You want an Ulster fry(?) | 0:09:08 | 0:09:09 | |
I'll have the Ulster fry! | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
We'll have three Irish fries! | 0:09:11 | 0:09:12 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
It was near Christmas, and they took us all on, do you know what I mean? | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
They kept us in a job right up to Christmas... | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
Even though it was costing them money. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
-Look at that! -No, no, no, no, no, no. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:26 | |
That's right, only the Brits do that. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
Thank God YOU said that! | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
Everybody that starts in our company, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
they're told you hang your politics at the door. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
There's a hook at the door - hang your politics, | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
and that's where it stays there. I slag and joke, you know, | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
it sounds funny, but at the interviews, when I'm interviewing them I slag them, I say, | 0:09:41 | 0:09:45 | |
"Lads, do you play the flute this way or that way?" | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
laughing, you know? It's all good craic and a good joke. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
Doesn't matter to me what colour they are or what religion they are. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
They're more than welcome. If they do their job good, | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
that's what we want. And that's the way it'll stay. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
It's great, Gerard, absolutely great. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
CHATTER AND LAUGHTER | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
Break bread, Owen, break bread. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:07 | |
Yes. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
Across the divide! | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
"You take too much there," he says - look! | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
First of all, I'll tell you, I'm 51. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
-Wow. -All right? | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
Oh, we didn't even get a photo! | 0:10:27 | 0:10:28 | |
Well, you see, you should have been quick. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
-Encore, encore. -All right, all right, give me a sec. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
Get that leg up. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
THEY WHOOP | 0:10:36 | 0:10:37 | |
Natalie and Zoe are visiting Belfast for a couple of days, after getting | 0:10:40 | 0:10:44 | |
last-minute cheap flights. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
It's their first time in Northern Ireland. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
I do want to learn about the culture, I think it's so interesting. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
I love the Irish people as well, like, they are so laid-back and chilled, | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
but then they've got that side to them where you wouldn't mess with them as well. So I like the... | 0:10:56 | 0:11:01 | |
Yeah, the Irish people are so cool. And they just want to get a bevvy, | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
-so it's like, that's what we're here for. -Why not? | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
By the way, if you're wondering what the H and the W means at the very top, | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
that means hello and welcome to Belfast. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
It also means Harry and William. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:16 | |
Remember Harry and William? Who are they? | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
-Princes. -That's right, well done. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
-Yes! We're so smart. -And so many people believe that these two cranes are named after them two as well. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
-Hey, we were so the only ones that got that answer right. -Mm. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
To the left of the bus, you'll see the structure that spans | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
the river at this point. That's the Lagan tidal barrier weir. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
The Lagan has one of the highest... | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
Not everyone who takes a bus tour is new to Belfast. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
My name is Victor Thorn, | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
and I was a British soldier here in Belfast back in the '70s. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:52 | |
Here I am on a bus, | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
driving around through Belfast, when back in those days, of course, | 0:11:57 | 0:12:02 | |
I would have either been in an armoured personnel carrier, | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
or I would have been on the back of a Land Rover holding a rifle. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:09 | |
I joined the British Army when I was 19 years of age. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:13 | |
Within a very short time, I found myself in Northern Ireland, in 1971, | 0:12:13 | 0:12:18 | |
with 2 Para. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:19 | |
When we started popping off out to tour the city, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
no real uncomfortable feeling whatsoever. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
However, once the fatalities started... | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
..that's when you realise this is a real situation, you know, and perhaps, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:39 | |
you know, the risk is far greater than I assumed it to be. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:43 | |
The prime interest for me will be West Belfast, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
because that's where I spent a lot of my time, obviously, | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
and to actually go back to that and see how it's changed will be, I think, | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
to some degree, quite cathartic. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
39 years was when I left here as a soldier, back in 1977. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:10 | |
I did have a couple of my old military buddies | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
say to me before I left, "You be careful." | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
Vic Thorn has gotten off the bus at the Falls Road. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
He's on his way to meet someone who grew up in this area, | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
just as he was serving in the Parachute Regiment. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
He doesn't know quite what kind of reception he's going to get. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
Back at Allen's Tours, Benn has had some bad news. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
Can you get into the car park, or down the hill or anything? | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
-She won't move. -She won't move at all? | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
Here, Francie, I'll tell you what it is, I have a bus here, | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
in Ballycastle there, but she won't go up the hill. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
I put a new clutch in it there a couple of weeks back | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
and it's started to slip. I was wondering, would you have a bus there? | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
You could take them down to the rope bridge first, until I get down to adjust this clutch up. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
All right, let's go. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
HE GROANS | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
What's up? | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
Just browned off. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:16 | |
You get out of bed, it's a normal day, and you say wait a minute, | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
you've got to go into work, and that's where it changes. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
Yeah, you just go with them, we'll see you at the rope bridge. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
Just leave the bus there, Benn. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
That's it. Mucked up. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
-INTERVIEWER: -Whose fault is it? -Benn's. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
It has to be his. No-one else. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
There she is. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
Benn has organised for the passengers to be taken on to the next stop. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
Now he needs Nicky to get his bus back on the road. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
Phwoah! That smells pretty bad. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
It definitely was slipping, even. He was right there. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
BELL DINGS | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
Benn? | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
What you want to do, I just want you to put it in top gear and stall it, if it will. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
What's the pedal like? | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
MUSIC: Steptoe And Son Theme | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
Whilst Nicky gets to work, | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
Benn has to deliver the replacement bus to his passengers. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
If there's a chance of that bus moving, Nicky'll get it to move. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
He doesn't like getting tow trucks in. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
So, we'll find out maybe by the time I get back down there. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
Benn's plan for this summer had been to earn enough cash from his Causeway Tours | 0:15:48 | 0:15:53 | |
to start up once again as an open-top tour bus company in Belfast. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:58 | |
-It's like a wedding! -I know it is! | 0:15:59 | 0:16:03 | |
What he DOESN'T know, is that his archrivals may be about to beat him to it. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
My jaws just won't go any further! | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:16:09 | 0:16:10 | |
See the way Caroline is? That's perfect. That's good. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
Follow my lead. You know? | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
Caroline and Rodney McComb have just taken delivery of a new bus. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:26 | |
This coach was £100,000. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
It's a lot of money for us to invest, | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
and there really is a lot of pressure on us then to make it work | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
and make a new product come in and sell really, really well for us. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
Their competitors don't know it yet, | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
but Caroline and Rodney's plan is to start a city tour with their new | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
convertible bus, where rain or shine, they'll be able to make money... | 0:16:47 | 0:16:52 | |
..potentially taking on the two big city centre companies at their own game. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
If it goes the way I think it IS going to go, well, | 0:16:58 | 0:17:02 | |
there might be another one or two brought in. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
Do you want to come around here, Rodney, and we'll look at this here? | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
But that's only part of the plan. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
This is definitely the main advertising space, this here. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:14 | |
McComb's want to take the battle for customers off the streets, and into | 0:17:15 | 0:17:20 | |
the more genteel surroundings of Victoria Square Shopping Centre. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
Oh, this is definitely the McComb's alternative to street staff. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:29 | |
This is just how we do it. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:30 | |
You know, we always try to go that extra step and that wee bit | 0:17:30 | 0:17:34 | |
higher-end, so for us this is a mile apart from that | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
so it's great. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:38 | |
We went and had a gorgeous sandwich, | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
and a scone. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
-INTERVIEWER: -Do you think the customers are bothered? | 0:17:54 | 0:17:58 | |
No, they seem happy enough. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
What the tourists of Northern Ireland want is a really good tour | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
to see our scenery, to see our lovely country. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
They're not actually here for a bus show. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
MUSIC: Goji Berry Sunset by Jealous Of The Birds | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
# Your name fizzes on my tongue | 0:18:18 | 0:18:24 | |
# Oh, your name | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
# It fizzes on my tongue | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
# Damn that name... # | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
It's time to put Nicky's handiwork to the test. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
-The clutch is out of it. -BLEEP -me! | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
What is it? What's happened? | 0:18:55 | 0:18:56 | |
She's just burning out. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
She's just burning out. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
We should have got it back down here, we shouldn't have gone up the hill. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
OK. Jump in, we'll try it. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
The bus is finished. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:25 | |
-There's not a lot left in it, Nicky. -No, burnt out. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
For now, Benn and Nicky are going nowhere. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
Check out the building on your left-hand side now. It belongs to | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
Queen's University. It just recently opened. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
It's a brand-new building. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
-And what's it made out of? -Glass? | 0:19:51 | 0:19:53 | |
Glass, there you go. What does that say about, you know... | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
-There's no bombs. -That's it, no more bombs. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
And no more shooting on our streets. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
Former soldier Vic Thorn remembers a very different Belfast. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
He's got off the bus just off the Falls Road, beside his old barracks. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:19 | |
It was quite, quite interesting to still see there was a link... | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
..to that time, and just to suddenly, without any real effort, | 0:20:27 | 0:20:33 | |
be able to imagine once more driving through those gates, | 0:20:33 | 0:20:37 | |
back out through those gates, looking at the roofs, | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
looking at the windows, ever ready... | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
And then you have St Peter's Cathedral here. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
-Yes. -And of course, I'm sure you remember this particular building. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
Ah, the Divis Flats. Of course, yes. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
Yes. God! | 0:20:54 | 0:20:55 | |
Vic has come to meet the director of Titanic and City Tours, | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
Gerard Rogan, | 0:21:00 | 0:21:01 | |
who grew up in this area whilst Vic was in the Army. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:05 | |
I remember patrolling in the Divis Flats back in the early '70s, and | 0:21:05 | 0:21:11 | |
you would get washing machines, TVs, whatever, thrown out at you. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:16 | |
I didn't live in the flats, so I didn't throw any of the washing machines at you! | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
-But yeah, you'll see your whole take on it's changed. -But it's totally different, | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
because in those days it was very much a very grey, foreboding building. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:30 | |
His take on standing out on the Falls Road, | 0:21:32 | 0:21:36 | |
and remembering about washing machines and TVs... | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
I never threw anything out the window. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
And I told him that. But you could see his mind ticking over. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
What were you doing at that time? | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
In '72, I was about 14. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
-14 years of age. -Ooh! 14 years of age. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
So I was sort of a very quiet lad. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
-You probably wouldn't have... -Do you know, | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
I really have an issue with that. I'm not sure I believe that. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
But maybe we met somewhere along the way. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
In less friendly circumstances, Victor. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
-THEY LAUGH -Yeah. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
It was easier for me because I'm standing on home ground. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
But here was a guy who had served with the British Army here, | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
in what he probably would have deemed enemy territory. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
Standing on the Falls Road... | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
You could see that he was slightly uptight, | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
but as we talked and we walked along | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
you could see him starting to loosen up and enjoying a bit of craic. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
Well, you wouldn't have seen too much in the vehicles that you were travelling in at the time. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
-No, that's very true. -Because there was only wee hatches. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
And for me to be on the top of a bus going through Belfast | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
is a new experience. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
-And without anybody throwing bricks or bottles at you. -Exactly! | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
Hello. I take it you're on your break, yeah? | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
Take it you're on your break. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
Well, where are you? | 0:22:54 | 0:22:55 | |
Come into work in the morning at nine o'clock, | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
and Alfie makes sure you're in cos he rings you. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
Ring, ring, ring - that's all you get from nine o'clock in the morning. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
Hurry up and get up here, will you? | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
Right, hurry up. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:07 | |
I'm the top skiver, without a shadow of a doubt. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
-They call me the Ghost. Cos they never see me. -Aye. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:23:13 | 0:23:15 | |
It's a pain in the hole sometimes. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
Some of the boys still have their old bad habits, like going to the toilet for 20 minutes, | 0:23:19 | 0:23:24 | |
and you're phoning them, and... going to the bookies in their break | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
when they're not supposed to be in the bookies on their break. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
You know. Or taking 45 minutes | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
and going down to St George's Market to buy crabs. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
-And lobsters. -Well, Alfie, I like to live the high life, OK? | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
-So just... -You know. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:41 | |
Seriously, I'll probably just throw the towel in and say, | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
"I can't work with him no more, driving me mad." | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
There he's there, look. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:48 | |
Alfie, what's happening? | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
Thank you. City tours? | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
City tours today, guys? | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
Thank you. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:00 | |
-Seriously, mate? -I'm running about here like a headless chicken. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
No, you're not. You were in there, going to the toilet, | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
then you come out for five minutes and you're away... | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
-Then I disappeared for five minutes. -Yeah. -I get 30 minutes for my break. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
So in between that there, I was 15 minutes... I'm due 15 minutes. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
What was your burger this morning at 11 o'clock? | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
I'm due 15 minutes to go in there and sit down, | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
-but I'm not going to do it. -What was your burger? | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
Because I like it for the company, do know what I mean? | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
I'm here to work for the company, so I don't want a break. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
What was your burger this morning at 11 o'clock? | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
-That was pre-cooked. -That was a tea break, was it? | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
No, that was pre-cooked and pre-ordered. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
We just have to try and avoid Alfie and stay out of his way, | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
but every turn of the corner you take, he seems to be there. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:40 | |
What Alfie doesn't know won't harm him. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
HE GROANS | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
Right, is that us? | 0:25:01 | 0:25:02 | |
That's us. Oh, look at that. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
This is definitely the life. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:06 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
Up on the coast, Benn and Nicky are making the best of a bad situation. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:15 | |
Let's go! | 0:25:15 | 0:25:16 | |
Benn is no closer to realising his dream. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
But his old rivals are moving up a gear. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
Can you hold the bottom of that? | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
Yeah, that's where this goes. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
At Belfast's Victoria Square, | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
Caroline and Rodney McComb are about to make a big announcement. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:42 | |
I'm glad to have something to do now | 0:25:42 | 0:25:44 | |
to take my mind off it, and this'll put the time in quickly until everybody arrives, so... | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
Caroline wants everything to be just right, | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
but she's noticed that her rivals' leaflets are on display. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:58 | |
And I think we'll take all of Sightseeing's literature out and replace it with ours. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
Our leaflets were there yesterday. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
See if you just pull that cage just in there a bit. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
McComb's have been in business for 20 years. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
But now their plan to start a high-end open-top bus tour, | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
and sell tickets in Victoria Square, | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
could be a game-changer for the industry. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
This is a real step up for us. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
I think everybody's going to be delighted for us and really excited | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
that we've decided to expand our business and move into this as well, so, yeah, | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
I think we're going to get a great reaction from it. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
Gorgeous. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:41 | |
That is gorgeous. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:45 | |
We'll put it up here. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
We've got the people we wanted here. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
We're just having a ball now, yeah. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
-We never stop scheming and planning. -I know, you're brilliant. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:56 | |
This is the key. This is the key. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
We have actually committed to what is now going to be - | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
you'll see on the board here Belfast Tour Centre... | 0:27:03 | 0:27:07 | |
We will be starting, from this Wednesday, | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
tours of Belfast three times a day, every day. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
-So it is... -CHEERING | 0:27:13 | 0:27:17 | |
Caroline's announcement has opened up a new front in the bus wars. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:26 | |
Look there to your left - we're not able to stop there. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
-Stop, sir! -Don't worry, we're going to stop on the way coming back, love, don't panic. Don't worry. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
But out on the streets - peace reigns. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:37 | |
I would say the people are so nice and friendly, | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
-and the weather's been obviously amazing... -People are so helpful, like, | 0:27:39 | 0:27:43 | |
-and nice. -Except from that one guy that wouldn't let us on his bike, but apart from him... | 0:27:43 | 0:27:48 | |
-It's been absolutely fabulous having you. -Yeah. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
'Gerard totally personified | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
'the new attitude that Belfast is all about.' | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
He has Catholic employees, | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
he has Protestant employees, who all work together very well | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
to build a company up. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
That's a microcosm of the city. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
This is how it SHOULD work. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
I almost felt I was home again, for want of a better word, | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
which is...quite peculiar. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
It's been a large part of my life - | 0:28:20 | 0:28:22 | |
Northern Ireland probably helped make me the person I am. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
So, see the IRA, that was illegal, yeah? But not really? | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
MUSIC: Then I Met You by The Proclaimers | 0:28:31 | 0:28:33 | |
# Thought that I'd be happy | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
# Gonna be so happy | 0:28:35 | 0:28:36 | |
# Living life alone and never sharing anything | 0:28:36 | 0:28:40 | |
# Thought that I was finished | 0:28:40 | 0:28:42 | |
# Thought that I was complete | 0:28:42 | 0:28:43 | |
# Thought that I was whole instead of being half of something... # | 0:28:43 | 0:28:47 |