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The Welsh pub - that traditional haven from domestic conflict, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
that oasis of light in the gloom, is under a three pronged attack | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
from the smoking ban, the recession and cheap supermarket booze. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:15 | |
This series is about the die-hard battle to keep these pubs alive. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:20 | |
Over the past year, we've followed some of those on the front line. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:25 | |
From city centre taverns | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
to country village inns. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
The triumphs... | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
and the mishaps. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:34 | |
Argh! | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
SHE GIGGLES | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
The jubilation... | 0:00:38 | 0:00:39 | |
THEY CHEER | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
..and the tears. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
Everywhere there are pubs boarded up | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
and you just hope yours is not going to be the next one. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
All of them with the same goal - | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
to keep their locals from calling time. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
In this episode, landlady Lorraine continues | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
the fight to save her pub. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:02 | |
I'd like to be able to say, "Oh, great, the pub's come back to life." | 0:01:02 | 0:01:08 | |
In Porth, pub renovator Tina hits some unexpected hurdles. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:12 | |
Won't just take it or you can't have a license when other places got licenses. I won't accept that. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
And one big brewery risks losing it's regulars when it revamps | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
a traditional old local. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
If they change it too much then I'll just go somewhere else. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
Returning home to the valleys after a successful career in Spain, | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
Tina Payne bought The Gateway for a mere £40,000, | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
but her bargain boozer quickly turned into a financial black hole. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:39 | |
And after nine months of DIY hell, Tina found herself £100,000 | 0:01:39 | 0:01:44 | |
our of pocket. She was forced to vamos back to her bar in Spain | 0:01:44 | 0:01:48 | |
to raise more funds to finish the project. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
It's now August and Tina's back with a renewed determination | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
and a new deadline. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
I've come back from Spain because the license is due in September | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
and this has got to be finished, otherwise it'll be 2012 | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
before this place will open. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:05 | |
So I've come back to rush this through now. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
I didn't want to go back to Spain, I've done that, | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
been there, got the t-shirt. This place is another thing. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
This is why I'm back. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
Anyway, I'm supposed to be painting, aren't I? | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
To help her reach her deadline, she's recruited | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
close friend Cherin. Cherin will also manage the pub once it's open. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:28 | |
I didn't think there'd be as much involved | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
as there has been, to be honest. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
Inspired by their partnership, their plans have become ambitious. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
They've spotted a gap in the local market for a food venue. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
So turning the upstairs into a carvery is now on the menu. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:44 | |
This is a carvery unit. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:45 | |
We did quite a bit of research on the other pubs | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
and what they were selling and who was doing food and who wasn't. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
There isn't another carvery at all in this area. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
I'm really getting quite excited now | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
that I can see things are coming into place. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
A cornucopia of hidden problems have caused Tina more time and hard cash | 0:02:59 | 0:03:03 | |
than she'd anticipated. But today's a milestone as the beer pumps | 0:03:03 | 0:03:08 | |
are finally being fitted. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:09 | |
Is that steamer OK? | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
Hey, they're lovely pumps, aren't they? | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
-Now you can see it's coming on. Now you can see a future here. -Yeah. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:17 | |
That first pint's going to taste really nice. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
This is the best time and with the flowing of the beer | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
will be the flowing of the money. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
In Cardiff, Brains brewery owns a pub n almost every street corner. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:36 | |
Pubs like The Crwys in Cathays. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
This classic city boozer has been pulling pints since 1891 | 0:03:38 | 0:03:43 | |
and still retains many traditional features, | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
including a skittle alley, but times are changing. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:49 | |
The recession is taking it's toll on the pub's beer sales | 0:03:49 | 0:03:53 | |
and in response, the brewery are taking The Crwys back to the drawing board. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
Rumours of a radical revamp to their local | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
are making some regulars nervous. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
I've been coming in all my life, I think. Just about. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
I don't know what exactly the plans are, | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
but if they change it too much, I'll just go somewhere else. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
I just hope they don't turn it into another student pub. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
We wouldn't want to see it turned into something completely new | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
-just like everything else. -Yeah, being sensitive | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
to what it is now, you know, and making sure that | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
the people who have been coming here for 20 years still enjoy it. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
Next day, the work begins. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
The imbibers are out and the builders are in. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:35 | |
The blueprints map out a dramatic revamp. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
All of the traditional old fittings are going | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
and the pub will be gutted from top to toe. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
The brewery's retail director, Philip Lay, is clear on the pub's new direction. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:47 | |
One of the biggest changes in the market is food. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:51 | |
Food is going to be a much bigger part of the offer, | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
but that's what's giving growth in the industry. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
You have to really be serious about food nowadays | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
and get people using the business for a different purpose to the one they've traditionally used it for. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:05 | |
We expect it to double its trade when we reopen. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
With food being central to the makeover, | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
it will mean bye-bye skittle alley and hello to | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
state of the art industrial kitchen unit. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
It remains to be seen what the regulars will make of it. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
Across Cardiff in the city centre, the brewery runs another pub - | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
The Old Arcade. With a proud rugby tradition, The Old Arcade | 0:05:24 | 0:05:28 | |
is no more than a James Hook conversion away from the millennium stadium. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:33 | |
Its landlord is Gary Corp. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
I've been doing this for coming up nine years. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
Nothing changes when you open a pub. It's the same routine every day | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
except your days off and generally on my days off | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
I'll sometimes come down and double check everything. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
That's what maintains the standards of the pub. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
For Gary, it's all about customer service and his loyal regulars. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
That's one of our special regulars. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
He's a lovely gentlemen. He's a little bit late today. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
He normally comes in about 11. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:03 | |
He'll come in and we'll make him a cup of tea or coffee. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
We've taken him under our wing. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
But Gary's not going to be at The Old Arcade for much longer. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
Along with the major revamp, there's going to be a changing of the guard | 0:06:12 | 0:06:16 | |
at The Crwys and it's our Gary | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
who's been cherry picked to take up the challenge. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
It's a big wrench, a move from a pub like The Old Arcade. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
It's just about the pub, it's about the people you've met along the way. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
And the rapport with some of the customers, they're more like family. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
But Gary's not daunted by the task ahead. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
They challenges are there, they are quite big, | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
but I'm sure, if we put the effort in, | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
I'm sure we can make a successful pub. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
Caerleon, a village that has already lost half of its pubs. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:50 | |
Landlady Lorraine has been running her beloved White Hart on her own | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
since her husband passed away six years ago. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
A recent downturn in trade forced her to lay off her cook | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
and stop serving food. Now she's left fearing | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
for her future as a publican. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:04 | |
Everywhere you look, there's pubs boarded up. Doesn't matter where you go | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
and you just hope yours won't be the next one. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
Lorraine has a rare night off and catches up with two friends | 0:07:12 | 0:07:16 | |
who are also landlords. Lee and Lee run The Bell in Caerleon, | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
a gastro pub with a very different outlook | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
to Lorraine's traditional boozer. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
Food is the focus here and, for them, turnover as increased. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
But they can still identify with Lorraine's struggle. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
-Yours is almost exclusively wet led... -Yeah. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:36 | |
..ours is food driven. Our sales growth this year is about 27% up | 0:07:36 | 0:07:41 | |
on the same period last year, year to date. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
Not many people doing that. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
-It takes a lot of hard work. -You know yourselves | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
how much you put in between two of you. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:51 | |
You imagine one person trying to do it all. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
We put a lot of blood sweat and tears into it. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
We've grown our business, but in terms of the profitability, | 0:07:57 | 0:08:01 | |
-it's...it's just not... -Not there. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
The rewards for the effort that you put in just isn't there. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
I just can't see a way for it to get better. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
It's just bee going down for so long now | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
-that the days of the British drinking pub are gone. -Yeah. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:17 | |
If Lorraine is right, then she is boxed in. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
Having already closed her kitchen | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
she has neither the money nor major brewery backing | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
to reinvent The White Hart as a food led pub. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
She has almost nowhere to turn. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
At the Old Arcade in Cardiff, Gary and his wife Sue | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
are getting ready to leave. It's their last chance to say goodbye | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
so they're throwing a party for their staff and regulars. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
This is Nadia, the singer, so we're just giving the girls a hand. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
And Nicola. Say "cheese", Nicola. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
He's always put on some nice entertainment over the years | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
so we're going to do some entertainment for him, to say goodbye. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
We'll sing him a song in a minute. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
It's a rare opportunity for Gary to unwind on the other side of the bar | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
and savour one last pint at The Old Arcade. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
We wanted to make sure that our friends, that we appreciated | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
the fact that they use the pub and shown it loyalty | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
and just run over some old good times we've had in the pub. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
It's quite a tough night. It's going to be quite emotional. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
# I would seek the stars out of the sky for you... # | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
For Gary's wife, Sue, the reality of the move is also starting to sink in. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:27 | |
I'm starting to get upset now cos we've seen people come in | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
that we haven't seen for a while. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
But it's going to be a good move. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
I'm not going to allow myself to get upset too much. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
It's a fresh start for us. Next week, hopefully, | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
we can throw ourselves into The Crwys | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
and start getting that up and running then. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
But Sue's timeframe is optimistic at best. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
At The Crwys, the ongoing work had revealed hidden problems | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
that are causing mounting delays. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
The building itself presents challenges, | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
some which you only find out when you take things down, | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
like the asbestos issues you get, it adds cost and delays. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:04 | |
But to the brewery, the set backs and added costs | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
are risks worth taking. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:08 | |
If you don't respond with the right level of investment into these businesses, ultimately | 0:10:08 | 0:10:13 | |
you end up with another pub closed in the UK which isn't | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
what any of us want. Not every pub can tackle the problems they've got | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
the way that we can cos you're talking about significant investments | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
to make the sort of changes that we're trying to make. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
This is hundreds of thousands of pounds. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
If you're running your business by yourself as a free trader, | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
it's a real challenge and they do find it very difficult. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
That's why a lot of them are folding and going under. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
All is not lost for those free traders | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
who don't have the financial backing of a big brewery, however. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
Independent pub consultants like Dai Nicholas offer advice to struggling pubs | 0:10:46 | 0:10:51 | |
and like the brewers, Dai believes food is often the answer. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:56 | |
Pubs just relying on drink sales | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
are twice as likely to close over the next year than | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
pubs that are also using food as part of their income stream as well. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
It's those pubs that have other reasons | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
to come there that stand a better chance of surviving through this recession. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
And survival doesn't have to mean big money makeovers. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
At the Bird In Hand in near Llanelli, Dai has helped turn | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
a struggling traditional drinking pub into a profitable business. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
With Dai's help and advice, landlord Darryn reopened | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
the pub's kitchen and income has slowly risen. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:31 | |
I've been here about three month. Implemented food here, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
place nice and clean. The plan is to work on that | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
and build on the food and the beer to get people interested again. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
Cos three months ago the pub was only open two days a week. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
By offering affordable food in a friendly environment, Darryn's turned the pub around. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:50 | |
For Dai, this recipe to success is simple. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:54 | |
He's gone in there, he's planned ahead, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
he's got the product right and he's decided to really give it a go. | 0:11:56 | 0:12:01 | |
He started off with a big rise in sales for the launch, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
it dipped slightly after and now he's pushing hard to bring it up | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
and sales are slowly rising against the trend. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
Dai's next visit is to a landlady who has made the opposite choice. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:19 | |
She's recently closed her kitchen down. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
Is there any advice Dai can offer when The White Hart's landlady, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
Lorraine, likes her traditional boozer just the way it is? | 0:12:25 | 0:12:30 | |
-How are you? -Hello. Pleased to meet you. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
The benefit I've seen in the past with some pubs is, erm, | 0:12:32 | 0:12:36 | |
they have had food and it's been an opportunity for them | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
to get extra income in, you know. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
Because of it being a drinking pub, I only ever did lunch. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
It's a small environment. If you've got a load of drinkers in | 0:12:44 | 0:12:48 | |
and you're trying to serve meals around people | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
stood shoulder to shoulder they're not going to be very happy. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
If people are going out to dine, they're going out to dine. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
If they're going out to drink, they're going out to drink. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
With Lorraine sticking firmly to the traditionalist's stance | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
that booze and food don't mix, | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
Dai's struggling for a positive alternative. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
In terms of marketing, to get new clients in | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
or new customers into the pub, your options are quite limited, I suppose. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
-Yes. -Because your costs are tight, | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
your overheads remain more or less the same. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
Yes, your rent and rates are still the same, | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
your gas and electric's gone up. Gas won't be quite so bad | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
-now I've shut the kitchen, hopefully. -Right, yeah. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
It'll probably balance out the same now we're not using the kitchen. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
So to go out there and start to spend cash on marketing the premises | 0:13:33 | 0:13:37 | |
is just beyond your means currently? | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
At the end of the month, there's never any money left over. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
If you get a bad month or one bad night on a weekend, | 0:13:42 | 0:13:47 | |
that can wipe out everything. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
After a good look around and further discussion with Lorraine, | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
Dai has come to a very clear conclusion | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
about the pub's prospects. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:57 | |
To turn this pub around | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
would be very, very difficult and very time-consuming | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
and very costly, so I would say, currently as it is now, | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
as a traditional boozer, without somebody in with a food background, | 0:14:04 | 0:14:08 | |
it would make the survival of this business quite bleak. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
Without the money or the will to strike out in a bold new direction, | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
the only question for Lorraine | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
is how long she can survive this traditional way. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:21 | |
It's mid-September and back up the Rhondda, | 0:14:23 | 0:14:28 | |
the never-ending saga that is the Gateway | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
has hit yet another hitch. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
And this time, it's a biggie. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
Tina's applied to the council for her pub licence | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
and a number of local residents are putting up stiff opposition. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:43 | |
There was about six or seven complaints. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
It's not really going to be good for business if you've got | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
close neighbours who are actually against what you're doing. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
The locals' worries are based on the pub's disreputable past, | 0:14:53 | 0:14:57 | |
a colourful time that handyman Rich readily recalls. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
There was a lot of trouble around here, fighting after hours | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
and what have you, so the police decided enough was enough, | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
just shut them all down. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
And getting the licence will take more than just satisfying the locals. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:14 | |
You've got the sound people for the audibility and soundchecks, | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
environmental health, the fire service, | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
to make sure, obviously, that you're up to the standards. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
They can turn round after doing all this work here and say, | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
"Actually, no." | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
So it is a really big risk. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
Tina has already sunk tens of thousands of pounds | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
into this project and the risk is all with her. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
But she's confident she can win the locals round. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:40 | |
People are a bit nervous about what the pub is going to entail. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:44 | |
But I think if you run something properly and you don't let idiots | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
and underage people in, I think it'll be OK. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
Especially because it's a food venue, I think the licence is going to go through. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:55 | |
But, if it doesn't, if I don't get a licence, | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
I won't just take it, when other places have got licences. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
No, I won't accept that. I will never accept a no. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
I don't like thinking about that bit, mind, it'll cost me more money. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
But with Tina being Tina, nothing is ever silky smooth. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
A sudden call from a workman sends her into a frenzy. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
I'm coming down straight away. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
Sorry, babe. Sorry. I'll be there now. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
-I'm going to have to come back. -What happened, Tina? | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
I've locked him in the barn. He's got to pick up his kids. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
I'll be back now. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:28 | |
He's got to pick up his kids! | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
I won't be long. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
In Cardiff, Gary and Sue are checking on progress at The Crwys. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:42 | |
There's a grand opening due in six days time | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
but things are far from finished, | 0:16:45 | 0:16:46 | |
particularly their flagship kitchen. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
This is it, all singing, and dancing kitchen. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
We are a bit off that today. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:56 | |
There's a long list of missing essentials. | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
We're merry chefs. We've got our friers, the ovens. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
The service areas, still some more of them, | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
kitchen sinks, dry store racking. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
Nothing's set up at the moment, just bringing it in very slowly. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
We're hoping to be doing 4,000 to 5,000 a week on food | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
which on the type of menu we're going to be doing is a lot of food. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:20 | |
Still a lot to do, finishing off. They'll be working 24 hours soon. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:29 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
That's the trouble when you're setting up, all you do is pick holes. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
With an opening imminent and big brewery bucks riding on it | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
being a success, the man at the top seems remarkably chilled. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
You've just really got to calm down and just take your time | 0:17:41 | 0:17:47 | |
and if something needs to be put off till tomorrow, | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
unfortunately, it has to be put off. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
At the end of the day, you just end up making mistakes. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
I'm sure it'll happen. I'll probably lose about two stone. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
That wouldn't be a bad thing. | 0:17:57 | 0:17:58 | |
As the boys from Tex Services keep telling me. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:02 | |
It's not just at The Crwys where food is at the centre of a rebrand. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:08 | |
The brewery is so convinced food equals money, they've opened a cookery school at their HQ. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:13 | |
Sue and The Crwys's catering crew are the latest students to be put through their paces. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:18 | |
Cheesy bread. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
-Lamb cawl, is it? -Yes. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:22 | |
Apple sauce. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
-How do you do them? Grill them? -No, you've got to fry them. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
It's just so we can taste the food, be able to explain it to customers | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
and really just to know how to do it. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
There's an eclectic and exotic menu to get to grips with, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
but it's not just nachos and naan bread preoccupying them. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
It's nice to start, it just feels like it's taking forever | 0:18:43 | 0:18:47 | |
just to get there, really. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
Gary's been up there every single day. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
I do just want to get in there now and get settled. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
But it's still pretty nerve wracking, especially for me, anyway. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:59 | |
Back in Porth, Tina and Cherin wilfully struggle on, | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
but the still unresolved issue of the pub licence hangs in the air | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
like a mocking spectre. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
People think I'm mad cos I've spent so much money | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
and I still don't know if I can get the licence. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
It's been a massive gamble, spending so much time doing it, sweat and tears. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
If I don't have the licence, I don't know what I'm going to do | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
cos I've got rid of my other income in Spain so I can't go back there. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
Thinking about it, it does make me think, "Oh my God, if I don't..." | 0:19:24 | 0:19:28 | |
It's a lot of money to spend. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:29 | |
It's a pub with no beer and a pub with no licence for music. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
I'm stumped really, aren't I? | 0:19:33 | 0:19:35 | |
Rather than back down, Tina and Cherin are going all out | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
to satisfy the council's pub licensing criteria. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
A few more grand is being thrown into a CCTV system. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
One obviously to cover this area cos there was a lot of trouble | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
in the past with fighting, so that's particularly important. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
Noise control is another strict licensing condition. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
The council require an independent assessment that The Gateway's soundproofing is foolproof. | 0:19:56 | 0:20:01 | |
We're going to have to get a band for ten minutes | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
for her to stand outside with the monitor and go, "Uh-huh." | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
That's going to cost about 400 quid. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
You don't get your licence without it. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
-When's the band got to be here? -It's got to be sometime next week. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
Even if they persuade the council everything's ticketyboo, | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
and licence worthy, they've still got to convince the neighbours. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:23 | |
Most people are of the opinion that it's going to be run the same way it was before. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:27 | |
To try to prove to them it's going to be run properly is hard work. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:31 | |
There've tunnel vision. They're not going to give anybody a chance. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:37 | |
Over the next few days, work on The Gateway pushes on | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
in anticipation of satisfying all of the council's licensing criteria. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:45 | |
As ever though, there's a hitch. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
At such short notice, Cherin's unable to find a group | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
or a sound engineer to come out and put the soundproofing to the test. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
In a land where every other person is in a band, | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
this is a sorry state of affairs. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
So that I could go forward with the council, | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
is there anyone you could recommend | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
that could possibly do it today? No? | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
Is there any possibility or hope on this earth that a chappie | 0:21:08 | 0:21:13 | |
or lady could come out today to do that? | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
No? No way? Right, OK. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
That's just shot that idea down in flames. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
Whilst Cherin continues bashing for bands, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
Tina's trying to stay in the neighbours' good books by sprucing up the backyard. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:29 | |
She's more than a little offended | 0:21:29 | 0:21:30 | |
that they think she plans on running a doss-house. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
I'm not going to run a drug den or anything stupid. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
I can't understand why people would think that one would spend | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
all this money on having a pub that would serve these people. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
They haven't got no money anyway. They wouldn't be in my place. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
I'm definitely a fighter. I work better if things go wrong. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
In the battle to find a band, a sound engineer, anyone, | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
Cherin's getting desperate. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
Have I got any chance whatsoever of getting you | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
anywhere near this pub in the foreseeable very near future? | 0:22:00 | 0:22:04 | |
I'll stick a really pretty, pretty, pretty please on the end of it | 0:22:04 | 0:22:08 | |
cos I am a desperate woman. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:09 | |
Cheers, thanks. Bye. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
He liked my cheek so hopefully... | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
Well, I said ASAP. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
So at long last, Cherin can call Tina with some good news. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
TELEPHONE RINGS | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
Hi. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
Yee-hah. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
So we've got a band and a sound engineer? | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
Yes! | 0:22:31 | 0:22:32 | |
At the end of a rainbow, there's light. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
Will The Gateway pass the sound test? | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
Will Tina and Cherin finally get to open up? | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
They'll find out soon enough. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
Cardiff, it's G-Day at the Crwys, the grand opening, | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
the usual last-minute fluffing is taking place | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
and Gary is in the thick of it. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:57 | |
Little bits and pieces to do and we're nearly there. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
I haven't stopped since six o'clock this morning. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:04 | |
I haven't had a sandwich. This is what we've been striving for. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:09 | |
It'll be lovely just to open the doors and serve the general public. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:14 | |
That's what it's about. Can't wait to meet the regulars and attract new clientele. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
It's close to zero hour and everything's ready for the launch. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:23 | |
Gary's got opening night nerves, but he's eager to meet his public. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
Can you turn the music up now, please? Only a touch. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:31 | |
Let's go and open the doors, then. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
-All right, love. Are you OK? We're just about there. -Are you? | 0:23:35 | 0:23:40 | |
Welcome to the Crwys. I know you're regulars. I hope everything's fine. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:44 | |
The Crwys has been transformed. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
Its modern decor, a world away from the snug nooks and crannies of its previous incarnation. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:53 | |
Outside, the welcoming beer garden is a Shangri-La for exhaling smokers. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:59 | |
And the skittle alley is a gastro kitchen now. But what do the old regulars make of it all? | 0:23:59 | 0:24:05 | |
Walked in here, not sure what we were going to find. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
Told...two months ago now? | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
-That's right. -..that it was closing down and being renovated. But impressed with what we've found. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:17 | |
15 years ago, I worked in this place. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
A bizarre little place. Tiled ugly floors, a really old pub. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:23 | |
I find this quite phenomenal to see. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
And I like the new landlord. He's made us all feel welcome. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:30 | |
I would like the music turned down! | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
-Turn the music down. -I wish he'd turn the music down. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
I've been drinking here a long time | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
and I was a bit wary about what Brains were going to do to it. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:44 | |
But I got to be honest, this is...supreme! | 0:24:44 | 0:24:49 | |
It's one of the best looking places I've been in for a long time. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:53 | |
Really good crowd in, lots of regulars, all pretty much | 0:24:53 | 0:24:57 | |
seem to be impressed, especially with the garden and decor. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:02 | |
I'm trying to reassure them it's going to stay as a community pub, | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
it's not going to suddenly try and change the type of clientele. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
They understand that change needs to happen for these pubs to survive. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:13 | |
It keeps the pub open and keeps people in the pubs. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
Whilst Gary and the Crwys enjoy a successful re-launch, | 0:25:19 | 0:25:23 | |
at the White Hart, there have been no last minute miracles. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:29 | |
Trade is so low that barmaid Natasha | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
now spends much of her shift reading. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
Having spent the bulk of her working life behind a bar, | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
Lorraine has finally decided to accept the inevitable. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:43 | |
I'm just not capable of doing it any more. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
It's the end of my life, really. 37 years running pubs is a long time. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:51 | |
What do I do for the rest of my life? | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
I'd like to be able to say in six months, | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
I'd come back and see the place absolutely buzzing and I hope I can. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:01 | |
To be able to walk in and just say, "Oh, great! | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
"The pub's come back to life." | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
But I don't know. Nobody knows what's round the corner. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
The job has got the better of me. Worn me out completely. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:16 | |
So...they can't rebuild me. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
Some would say - good! | 0:26:21 | 0:26:23 | |
Lorraine has decided to retire. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
A dignified exit for the dignified old school landlady | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
whose traditional old boozer has fallen out of fashion and out of time. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:35 | |
In Porth, Tina fights on. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
The neo-classical jazz ensemble they scrambled to find | 0:26:40 | 0:26:44 | |
are in for the council soundcheck. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:46 | |
But it's not going to plan. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:47 | |
The audio levels are higher than expected and apparently, | 0:26:47 | 0:26:51 | |
the band can be heard from next door. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
And that means it's "No" for the licence. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
I don't know if we'll be able to have bands. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
We're not allowed to do it, but I'm not going to give up, babes. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:07 | |
The verdict has left Tina and Cherin in a difficult place. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:11 | |
But with so much time invested and money spent, | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
Tina believes that there's no choice other than to soldier on. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:19 | |
November 2011 and at the Groundhog Day that is the Gateway, Tina and Cherin, | 0:27:19 | 0:27:25 | |
having already worked through Plans A-Y, are optimistically moving on to Plan Z. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:31 | |
This has cost mega bucks, this foam. We've done double the thickness. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:36 | |
It's like a big sound barrier, hopefully to drop at least 10db. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:41 | |
It's going to open and it's going to be fun and it's going to be better than it was before. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:46 | |
Get this audibility test done again. We're quite confident with that. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:51 | |
And then hopefully have the licence and be open before Christmas. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:55 | |
I think we should celebrate. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
Cheers, me-dears! | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
15 months and £120,000 later, Tina's pub problems keep rolling on. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:09 | |
Who knows if the Gateway will ever open or if Tina will see her money again? | 0:28:09 | 0:28:14 | |
In the meantime, let's raise a glass with Tina and any other colourful can-do maverick out there | 0:28:14 | 0:28:19 | |
doing their bit to keep Welsh pubs alive. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
Coming up in the next episode - four friends from Carmarthen take over their local, | 0:28:25 | 0:28:30 | |
but their ambitions don't just lay in pulling pints. They're going into the business of making them too. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:36 | |
-The beer may be a bit too strong. It's not what we want. -Got to get it right. No ifs or buts. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:41 | |
But will their DIY beer make or break their fledgling brewery business? | 0:28:41 | 0:28:48 | |
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