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The Welsh pub - that traditional haven from domestic conflict,

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that oasis of light in the gloom, is under a three pronged attack

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from the smoking ban, the recession and cheap supermarket booze.

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This series is about the die-hard battle to keep these pubs alive.

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Over the past year, we've followed some of those on the front line.

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From city centre taverns

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to country village inns.

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The triumphs...

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and the mishaps.

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Argh!

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SHE GIGGLES

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The jubilation...

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THEY CHEER

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..and the tears.

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Everywhere there are pubs boarded up

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and you just hope yours is not going to be the next one.

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All of them with the same goal -

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to keep their locals from calling time.

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In this episode, landlady Lorraine continues

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the fight to save her pub.

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I'd like to be able to say, "Oh, great, the pub's come back to life."

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In Porth, pub renovator Tina hits some unexpected hurdles.

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Won't just take it or you can't have a license when other places got licenses. I won't accept that.

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And one big brewery risks losing it's regulars when it revamps

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a traditional old local.

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If they change it too much then I'll just go somewhere else.

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Returning home to the valleys after a successful career in Spain,

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Tina Payne bought The Gateway for a mere £40,000,

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but her bargain boozer quickly turned into a financial black hole.

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And after nine months of DIY hell, Tina found herself £100,000

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our of pocket. She was forced to vamos back to her bar in Spain

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to raise more funds to finish the project.

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It's now August and Tina's back with a renewed determination

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and a new deadline.

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I've come back from Spain because the license is due in September

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and this has got to be finished, otherwise it'll be 2012

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before this place will open.

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So I've come back to rush this through now.

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I didn't want to go back to Spain, I've done that,

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been there, got the t-shirt. This place is another thing.

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This is why I'm back.

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Anyway, I'm supposed to be painting, aren't I?

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To help her reach her deadline, she's recruited

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close friend Cherin. Cherin will also manage the pub once it's open.

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I didn't think there'd be as much involved

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as there has been, to be honest.

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Inspired by their partnership, their plans have become ambitious.

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They've spotted a gap in the local market for a food venue.

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So turning the upstairs into a carvery is now on the menu.

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This is a carvery unit.

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We did quite a bit of research on the other pubs

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and what they were selling and who was doing food and who wasn't.

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There isn't another carvery at all in this area.

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I'm really getting quite excited now

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that I can see things are coming into place.

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A cornucopia of hidden problems have caused Tina more time and hard cash

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than she'd anticipated. But today's a milestone as the beer pumps

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are finally being fitted.

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Is that steamer OK?

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Hey, they're lovely pumps, aren't they?

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-Now you can see it's coming on. Now you can see a future here.

-Yeah.

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That first pint's going to taste really nice.

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This is the best time and with the flowing of the beer

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will be the flowing of the money.

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In Cardiff, Brains brewery owns a pub n almost every street corner.

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Pubs like The Crwys in Cathays.

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This classic city boozer has been pulling pints since 1891

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and still retains many traditional features,

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including a skittle alley, but times are changing.

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The recession is taking it's toll on the pub's beer sales

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and in response, the brewery are taking The Crwys back to the drawing board.

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Rumours of a radical revamp to their local

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are making some regulars nervous.

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I've been coming in all my life, I think. Just about.

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I don't know what exactly the plans are,

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but if they change it too much, I'll just go somewhere else.

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I just hope they don't turn it into another student pub.

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We wouldn't want to see it turned into something completely new

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-just like everything else.

-Yeah, being sensitive

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to what it is now, you know, and making sure that

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the people who have been coming here for 20 years still enjoy it.

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Next day, the work begins.

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The imbibers are out and the builders are in.

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The blueprints map out a dramatic revamp.

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All of the traditional old fittings are going

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and the pub will be gutted from top to toe.

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The brewery's retail director, Philip Lay, is clear on the pub's new direction.

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One of the biggest changes in the market is food.

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Food is going to be a much bigger part of the offer,

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but that's what's giving growth in the industry.

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You have to really be serious about food nowadays

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and get people using the business for a different purpose to the one they've traditionally used it for.

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We expect it to double its trade when we reopen.

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With food being central to the makeover,

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it will mean bye-bye skittle alley and hello to

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state of the art industrial kitchen unit.

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It remains to be seen what the regulars will make of it.

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Across Cardiff in the city centre, the brewery runs another pub -

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The Old Arcade. With a proud rugby tradition, The Old Arcade

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is no more than a James Hook conversion away from the millennium stadium.

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Its landlord is Gary Corp.

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I've been doing this for coming up nine years.

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Nothing changes when you open a pub. It's the same routine every day

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except your days off and generally on my days off

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I'll sometimes come down and double check everything.

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That's what maintains the standards of the pub.

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For Gary, it's all about customer service and his loyal regulars.

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That's one of our special regulars.

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He's a lovely gentlemen. He's a little bit late today.

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He normally comes in about 11.

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He'll come in and we'll make him a cup of tea or coffee.

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We've taken him under our wing.

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But Gary's not going to be at The Old Arcade for much longer.

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Along with the major revamp, there's going to be a changing of the guard

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at The Crwys and it's our Gary

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who's been cherry picked to take up the challenge.

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It's a big wrench, a move from a pub like The Old Arcade.

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It's just about the pub, it's about the people you've met along the way.

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And the rapport with some of the customers, they're more like family.

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But Gary's not daunted by the task ahead.

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They challenges are there, they are quite big,

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but I'm sure, if we put the effort in,

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I'm sure we can make a successful pub.

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Caerleon, a village that has already lost half of its pubs.

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Landlady Lorraine has been running her beloved White Hart on her own

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since her husband passed away six years ago.

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A recent downturn in trade forced her to lay off her cook

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and stop serving food. Now she's left fearing

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for her future as a publican.

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Everywhere you look, there's pubs boarded up. Doesn't matter where you go

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and you just hope yours won't be the next one.

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Lorraine has a rare night off and catches up with two friends

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who are also landlords. Lee and Lee run The Bell in Caerleon,

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a gastro pub with a very different outlook

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to Lorraine's traditional boozer.

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Food is the focus here and, for them, turnover as increased.

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But they can still identify with Lorraine's struggle.

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-Yours is almost exclusively wet led...

-Yeah.

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..ours is food driven. Our sales growth this year is about 27% up

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on the same period last year, year to date.

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Not many people doing that.

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-It takes a lot of hard work.

-You know yourselves

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how much you put in between two of you.

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You imagine one person trying to do it all.

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We put a lot of blood sweat and tears into it.

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We've grown our business, but in terms of the profitability,

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-it's...it's just not...

-Not there.

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The rewards for the effort that you put in just isn't there.

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I just can't see a way for it to get better.

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It's just bee going down for so long now

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-that the days of the British drinking pub are gone.

-Yeah.

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If Lorraine is right, then she is boxed in.

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Having already closed her kitchen

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she has neither the money nor major brewery backing

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to reinvent The White Hart as a food led pub.

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She has almost nowhere to turn.

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At the Old Arcade in Cardiff, Gary and his wife Sue

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are getting ready to leave. It's their last chance to say goodbye

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so they're throwing a party for their staff and regulars.

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This is Nadia, the singer, so we're just giving the girls a hand.

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And Nicola. Say "cheese", Nicola.

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He's always put on some nice entertainment over the years

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so we're going to do some entertainment for him, to say goodbye.

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We'll sing him a song in a minute.

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It's a rare opportunity for Gary to unwind on the other side of the bar

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and savour one last pint at The Old Arcade.

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We wanted to make sure that our friends, that we appreciated

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the fact that they use the pub and shown it loyalty

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and just run over some old good times we've had in the pub.

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It's quite a tough night. It's going to be quite emotional.

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# I would seek the stars out of the sky for you... #

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For Gary's wife, Sue, the reality of the move is also starting to sink in.

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I'm starting to get upset now cos we've seen people come in

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that we haven't seen for a while.

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But it's going to be a good move.

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I'm not going to allow myself to get upset too much.

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It's a fresh start for us. Next week, hopefully,

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we can throw ourselves into The Crwys

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and start getting that up and running then.

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But Sue's timeframe is optimistic at best.

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At The Crwys, the ongoing work had revealed hidden problems

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that are causing mounting delays.

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The building itself presents challenges,

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some which you only find out when you take things down,

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like the asbestos issues you get, it adds cost and delays.

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But to the brewery, the set backs and added costs

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are risks worth taking.

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If you don't respond with the right level of investment into these businesses, ultimately

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you end up with another pub closed in the UK which isn't

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what any of us want. Not every pub can tackle the problems they've got

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the way that we can cos you're talking about significant investments

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to make the sort of changes that we're trying to make.

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This is hundreds of thousands of pounds.

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If you're running your business by yourself as a free trader,

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it's a real challenge and they do find it very difficult.

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That's why a lot of them are folding and going under.

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All is not lost for those free traders

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who don't have the financial backing of a big brewery, however.

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Independent pub consultants like Dai Nicholas offer advice to struggling pubs

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and like the brewers, Dai believes food is often the answer.

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Pubs just relying on drink sales

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are twice as likely to close over the next year than

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pubs that are also using food as part of their income stream as well.

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It's those pubs that have other reasons

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to come there that stand a better chance of surviving through this recession.

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And survival doesn't have to mean big money makeovers.

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At the Bird In Hand in near Llanelli, Dai has helped turn

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a struggling traditional drinking pub into a profitable business.

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With Dai's help and advice, landlord Darryn reopened

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the pub's kitchen and income has slowly risen.

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I've been here about three month. Implemented food here,

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place nice and clean. The plan is to work on that

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and build on the food and the beer to get people interested again.

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Cos three months ago the pub was only open two days a week.

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By offering affordable food in a friendly environment, Darryn's turned the pub around.

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For Dai, this recipe to success is simple.

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He's gone in there, he's planned ahead,

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he's got the product right and he's decided to really give it a go.

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He started off with a big rise in sales for the launch,

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it dipped slightly after and now he's pushing hard to bring it up

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and sales are slowly rising against the trend.

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Dai's next visit is to a landlady who has made the opposite choice.

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She's recently closed her kitchen down.

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Is there any advice Dai can offer when The White Hart's landlady,

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Lorraine, likes her traditional boozer just the way it is?

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-How are you?

-Hello. Pleased to meet you.

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The benefit I've seen in the past with some pubs is, erm,

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they have had food and it's been an opportunity for them

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to get extra income in, you know.

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Because of it being a drinking pub, I only ever did lunch.

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It's a small environment. If you've got a load of drinkers in

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and you're trying to serve meals around people

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stood shoulder to shoulder they're not going to be very happy.

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If people are going out to dine, they're going out to dine.

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If they're going out to drink, they're going out to drink.

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With Lorraine sticking firmly to the traditionalist's stance

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that booze and food don't mix,

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Dai's struggling for a positive alternative.

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In terms of marketing, to get new clients in

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or new customers into the pub, your options are quite limited, I suppose.

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-Yes.

-Because your costs are tight,

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your overheads remain more or less the same.

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Yes, your rent and rates are still the same,

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your gas and electric's gone up. Gas won't be quite so bad

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-now I've shut the kitchen, hopefully.

-Right, yeah.

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It'll probably balance out the same now we're not using the kitchen.

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So to go out there and start to spend cash on marketing the premises

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is just beyond your means currently?

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At the end of the month, there's never any money left over.

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If you get a bad month or one bad night on a weekend,

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that can wipe out everything.

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After a good look around and further discussion with Lorraine,

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Dai has come to a very clear conclusion

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about the pub's prospects.

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To turn this pub around

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would be very, very difficult and very time-consuming

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and very costly, so I would say, currently as it is now,

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as a traditional boozer, without somebody in with a food background,

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it would make the survival of this business quite bleak.

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Without the money or the will to strike out in a bold new direction,

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the only question for Lorraine

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is how long she can survive this traditional way.

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It's mid-September and back up the Rhondda,

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the never-ending saga that is the Gateway

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has hit yet another hitch.

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And this time, it's a biggie.

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Tina's applied to the council for her pub licence

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and a number of local residents are putting up stiff opposition.

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There was about six or seven complaints.

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It's not really going to be good for business if you've got

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close neighbours who are actually against what you're doing.

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The locals' worries are based on the pub's disreputable past,

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a colourful time that handyman Rich readily recalls.

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There was a lot of trouble around here, fighting after hours

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and what have you, so the police decided enough was enough,

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just shut them all down.

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And getting the licence will take more than just satisfying the locals.

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You've got the sound people for the audibility and soundchecks,

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environmental health, the fire service,

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to make sure, obviously, that you're up to the standards.

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They can turn round after doing all this work here and say,

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"Actually, no."

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So it is a really big risk.

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Tina has already sunk tens of thousands of pounds

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into this project and the risk is all with her.

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But she's confident she can win the locals round.

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People are a bit nervous about what the pub is going to entail.

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But I think if you run something properly and you don't let idiots

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and underage people in, I think it'll be OK.

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Especially because it's a food venue, I think the licence is going to go through.

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But, if it doesn't, if I don't get a licence,

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I won't just take it, when other places have got licences.

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No, I won't accept that. I will never accept a no.

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I don't like thinking about that bit, mind, it'll cost me more money.

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But with Tina being Tina, nothing is ever silky smooth.

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A sudden call from a workman sends her into a frenzy.

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I'm coming down straight away.

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Sorry, babe. Sorry. I'll be there now.

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-I'm going to have to come back.

-What happened, Tina?

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I've locked him in the barn. He's got to pick up his kids.

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I'll be back now.

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He's got to pick up his kids!

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I won't be long.

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In Cardiff, Gary and Sue are checking on progress at The Crwys.

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There's a grand opening due in six days time

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but things are far from finished,

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particularly their flagship kitchen.

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This is it, all singing, and dancing kitchen.

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We are a bit off that today.

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There's a long list of missing essentials.

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We're merry chefs. We've got our friers, the ovens.

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The service areas, still some more of them,

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kitchen sinks, dry store racking.

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Nothing's set up at the moment, just bringing it in very slowly.

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We're hoping to be doing 4,000 to 5,000 a week on food

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which on the type of menu we're going to be doing is a lot of food.

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Still a lot to do, finishing off. They'll be working 24 hours soon.

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HE LAUGHS

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That's the trouble when you're setting up, all you do is pick holes.

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With an opening imminent and big brewery bucks riding on it

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being a success, the man at the top seems remarkably chilled.

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You've just really got to calm down and just take your time

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and if something needs to be put off till tomorrow,

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unfortunately, it has to be put off.

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At the end of the day, you just end up making mistakes.

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I'm sure it'll happen. I'll probably lose about two stone.

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That wouldn't be a bad thing.

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As the boys from Tex Services keep telling me.

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It's not just at The Crwys where food is at the centre of a rebrand.

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The brewery is so convinced food equals money, they've opened a cookery school at their HQ.

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Sue and The Crwys's catering crew are the latest students to be put through their paces.

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Cheesy bread.

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-Lamb cawl, is it?

-Yes.

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Apple sauce.

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-How do you do them? Grill them?

-No, you've got to fry them.

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It's just so we can taste the food, be able to explain it to customers

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and really just to know how to do it.

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There's an eclectic and exotic menu to get to grips with,

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but it's not just nachos and naan bread preoccupying them.

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It's nice to start, it just feels like it's taking forever

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just to get there, really.

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Gary's been up there every single day.

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I do just want to get in there now and get settled.

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But it's still pretty nerve wracking, especially for me, anyway.

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Back in Porth, Tina and Cherin wilfully struggle on,

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but the still unresolved issue of the pub licence hangs in the air

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like a mocking spectre.

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People think I'm mad cos I've spent so much money

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and I still don't know if I can get the licence.

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It's been a massive gamble, spending so much time doing it, sweat and tears.

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If I don't have the licence, I don't know what I'm going to do

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cos I've got rid of my other income in Spain so I can't go back there.

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Thinking about it, it does make me think, "Oh my God, if I don't..."

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It's a lot of money to spend.

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It's a pub with no beer and a pub with no licence for music.

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I'm stumped really, aren't I?

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Rather than back down, Tina and Cherin are going all out

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to satisfy the council's pub licensing criteria.

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A few more grand is being thrown into a CCTV system.

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One obviously to cover this area cos there was a lot of trouble

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in the past with fighting, so that's particularly important.

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Noise control is another strict licensing condition.

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The council require an independent assessment that The Gateway's soundproofing is foolproof.

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We're going to have to get a band for ten minutes

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for her to stand outside with the monitor and go, "Uh-huh."

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That's going to cost about 400 quid.

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You don't get your licence without it.

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-When's the band got to be here?

-It's got to be sometime next week.

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Even if they persuade the council everything's ticketyboo,

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and licence worthy, they've still got to convince the neighbours.

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Most people are of the opinion that it's going to be run the same way it was before.

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To try to prove to them it's going to be run properly is hard work.

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There've tunnel vision. They're not going to give anybody a chance.

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Over the next few days, work on The Gateway pushes on

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in anticipation of satisfying all of the council's licensing criteria.

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As ever though, there's a hitch.

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At such short notice, Cherin's unable to find a group

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or a sound engineer to come out and put the soundproofing to the test.

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In a land where every other person is in a band,

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this is a sorry state of affairs.

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So that I could go forward with the council,

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is there anyone you could recommend

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that could possibly do it today? No?

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Is there any possibility or hope on this earth that a chappie

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or lady could come out today to do that?

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No? No way? Right, OK.

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That's just shot that idea down in flames.

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Whilst Cherin continues bashing for bands,

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Tina's trying to stay in the neighbours' good books by sprucing up the backyard.

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She's more than a little offended

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that they think she plans on running a doss-house.

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I'm not going to run a drug den or anything stupid.

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I can't understand why people would think that one would spend

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all this money on having a pub that would serve these people.

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They haven't got no money anyway. They wouldn't be in my place.

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I'm definitely a fighter. I work better if things go wrong.

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In the battle to find a band, a sound engineer, anyone,

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Cherin's getting desperate.

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Have I got any chance whatsoever of getting you

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anywhere near this pub in the foreseeable very near future?

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I'll stick a really pretty, pretty, pretty please on the end of it

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cos I am a desperate woman.

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Cheers, thanks. Bye.

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He liked my cheek so hopefully...

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Well, I said ASAP.

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So at long last, Cherin can call Tina with some good news.

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TELEPHONE RINGS

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Hi.

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Yee-hah.

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So we've got a band and a sound engineer?

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Yes!

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At the end of a rainbow, there's light.

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Will The Gateway pass the sound test?

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Will Tina and Cherin finally get to open up?

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They'll find out soon enough.

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Cardiff, it's G-Day at the Crwys, the grand opening,

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the usual last-minute fluffing is taking place

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and Gary is in the thick of it.

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Little bits and pieces to do and we're nearly there.

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I haven't stopped since six o'clock this morning.

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I haven't had a sandwich. This is what we've been striving for.

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It'll be lovely just to open the doors and serve the general public.

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That's what it's about. Can't wait to meet the regulars and attract new clientele.

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It's close to zero hour and everything's ready for the launch.

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Gary's got opening night nerves, but he's eager to meet his public.

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Can you turn the music up now, please? Only a touch.

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Let's go and open the doors, then.

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-All right, love. Are you OK? We're just about there.

-Are you?

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Welcome to the Crwys. I know you're regulars. I hope everything's fine.

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The Crwys has been transformed.

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Its modern decor, a world away from the snug nooks and crannies of its previous incarnation.

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Outside, the welcoming beer garden is a Shangri-La for exhaling smokers.

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And the skittle alley is a gastro kitchen now. But what do the old regulars make of it all?

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Walked in here, not sure what we were going to find.

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Told...two months ago now?

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-That's right.

-..that it was closing down and being renovated. But impressed with what we've found.

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15 years ago, I worked in this place.

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A bizarre little place. Tiled ugly floors, a really old pub.

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I find this quite phenomenal to see.

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And I like the new landlord. He's made us all feel welcome.

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I would like the music turned down!

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-Turn the music down.

-I wish he'd turn the music down.

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I've been drinking here a long time

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and I was a bit wary about what Brains were going to do to it.

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But I got to be honest, this is...supreme!

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It's one of the best looking places I've been in for a long time.

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Really good crowd in, lots of regulars, all pretty much

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seem to be impressed, especially with the garden and decor.

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I'm trying to reassure them it's going to stay as a community pub,

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it's not going to suddenly try and change the type of clientele.

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They understand that change needs to happen for these pubs to survive.

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It keeps the pub open and keeps people in the pubs.

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Whilst Gary and the Crwys enjoy a successful re-launch,

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at the White Hart, there have been no last minute miracles.

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Trade is so low that barmaid Natasha

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now spends much of her shift reading.

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Having spent the bulk of her working life behind a bar,

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Lorraine has finally decided to accept the inevitable.

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I'm just not capable of doing it any more.

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It's the end of my life, really. 37 years running pubs is a long time.

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What do I do for the rest of my life?

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I'd like to be able to say in six months,

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I'd come back and see the place absolutely buzzing and I hope I can.

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To be able to walk in and just say, "Oh, great!

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"The pub's come back to life."

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But I don't know. Nobody knows what's round the corner.

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The job has got the better of me. Worn me out completely.

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So...they can't rebuild me.

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Some would say - good!

0:26:210:26:23

Lorraine has decided to retire.

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A dignified exit for the dignified old school landlady

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whose traditional old boozer has fallen out of fashion and out of time.

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In Porth, Tina fights on.

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The neo-classical jazz ensemble they scrambled to find

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are in for the council soundcheck.

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But it's not going to plan.

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The audio levels are higher than expected and apparently,

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the band can be heard from next door.

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And that means it's "No" for the licence.

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I don't know if we'll be able to have bands.

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We're not allowed to do it, but I'm not going to give up, babes.

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The verdict has left Tina and Cherin in a difficult place.

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But with so much time invested and money spent,

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Tina believes that there's no choice other than to soldier on.

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November 2011 and at the Groundhog Day that is the Gateway, Tina and Cherin,

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having already worked through Plans A-Y, are optimistically moving on to Plan Z.

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This has cost mega bucks, this foam. We've done double the thickness.

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It's like a big sound barrier, hopefully to drop at least 10db.

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It's going to open and it's going to be fun and it's going to be better than it was before.

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Get this audibility test done again. We're quite confident with that.

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And then hopefully have the licence and be open before Christmas.

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I think we should celebrate.

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Cheers, me-dears!

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15 months and £120,000 later, Tina's pub problems keep rolling on.

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Who knows if the Gateway will ever open or if Tina will see her money again?

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In the meantime, let's raise a glass with Tina and any other colourful can-do maverick out there

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doing their bit to keep Welsh pubs alive.

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Coming up in the next episode - four friends from Carmarthen take over their local,

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but their ambitions don't just lay in pulling pints. They're going into the business of making them too.

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-The beer may be a bit too strong. It's not what we want.

-Got to get it right. No ifs or buts.

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But will their DIY beer make or break their fledgling brewery business?

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