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Here you have a wonderful city that exudes Christianity. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:13 | |
You're walking over thousands of years of history. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:19 | |
And it's all around you, | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
in your cathedrals and churches around the Mall. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:25 | |
And obviously, the legacy of St Patrick. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
I think, to be fair to Armagh, | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
people do their very best to get on. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
They do their very best to be a community, | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
to look out for one another. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
I think that is an expression of Christian concern | 0:00:45 | 0:00:49 | |
and Christian love. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:50 | |
So, I think it has a tremendous opportunity, Armagh, | 0:00:52 | 0:00:57 | |
as a beacon of light. | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
SACRED MUSIC | 0:01:05 | 0:01:12 | |
We are standing here on the historic Mall. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
As you look around, you see the different traditions. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
Here, you have the dominance of the spires | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
of the Roman Catholic cathedral | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
and they're majestically reaching to the skies. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
Here you have the tall spire of the Presbyterian Church. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
Beside it, The Mall Presbyterian Church. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
The Brethren Church over there. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
On this side of the Mall, you have St Mark's. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
Of course, tucked up around the hill, | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
in the shadow, almost, of the cathedral, | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
is the little Methodist church to which I belong. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
Then you ask yourself the question, | 0:02:19 | 0:02:21 | |
here are all of these architectural witnesses to the gospel. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:29 | |
The people who built them wanted to make a statement, | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
a statement of faith, this is what we believe in. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
Look at us, this is what we believe in. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
This is about faith, this is about a message of love and reconciliation. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
This is about a message of, there's more to life | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
than just living here, there is a hereafter after the here. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:49 | |
But then you look at this Mall | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
and you look up at that end of the Mall up there and what have you got? | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
The jail. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
At this end of the Mall, you have the courthouse. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
You go in there for your sins, and you go up there for your punishment. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:05 | |
But surrounded by these churches, we are saying, hold on, | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
it doesn't have to be like that. There's forgiveness around. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
It's a message that says, there's another way of doing things. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
The churches are all exclaiming that loudly and saying, come, follow me. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:24 | |
We have a better way of doing things. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
Being a Christian isn't easy | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
and if anybody thinks Christianity is for wimps, | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
I'd say they're in for a shock, because what Christianity will do, | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
what the Lord will do, He'll make you be a man. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:57 | |
What I mean by that is, He will make you be accountable. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
He will make you stand up and you have to be transparent. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
You can't live a double life. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:05 | |
I worked for the weekends and I loved going out at the weekends. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
I loved socialising, I loved the craic, | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
I loved the banter and drink was a big area of that. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
Every Sunday, my wage packet would have been gone | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
and I would have begrudged giving my mother £20 for housekeeping. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:27 | |
But that was my life, there was just drinking, partying. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
When Monday came, you put your head down and worked until Friday came. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:35 | |
Pretty sad really, but that was it. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
I had fought the voice of God for a long time. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
I knew that I needed to be saved, | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
I knew there was an emptiness within me. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
Even though I probably would have been seen as being like most people, | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
happy-go-easy and enjoying the craic but inwardly, there was a void. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
I was constantly just twisting with drink in me. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
There was this one point and it brought it to a low. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
We were in a bar on Boxing Day. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
There was a fight that had broken out between myself | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
and another fella and it was totally my fault, it shouldn't have happened. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:15 | |
The biggest shock for me that night was my mother's face. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
She was in that bar and my mother looked at me in utter shock, | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
utter shame and disbelief that this had just taken place. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:27 | |
That was probably the biggest wake-up call, that my life was just a mess. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:34 | |
That was the beginning of the end for me, | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
because I had realised, I am sick of this. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
I had come to an all-time low, I'm only 24 years of age | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
and I feel I've done everything. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
I just feel my life was spiralling out of control | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
but I believe it was the hand of God on my life. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
Everything I touched, He made fall. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
I live in my home farm, just outside Keady in a place called Temple. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:18 | |
I have been living there for 47 years now. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:23 | |
I have been there since I was born. It is a small family farm. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:28 | |
Dad was a full-time farmer and he kept cattle, as I do now. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:34 | |
Whenever I would get holidays or weekends, | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
I was running about after him. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
Good times together, just farming and feeding the cattle | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
and all the things that has to be done around the farm. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
We grew up in a happy, loving family farming environment. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:54 | |
# Echoes of mercy, whispers of love | 0:06:55 | 0:07:02 | |
# This is my story, this is my song... # | 0:07:02 | 0:07:07 | |
There's probably a lot of moments where | 0:07:09 | 0:07:13 | |
I have felt God's presence in an awesome way. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
# This is my story, this is my song... # | 0:07:17 | 0:07:23 | |
A lot of times, | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
you just feeling the tangible presence of God as people gather. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
That's quite biblical, because scripture teaches us | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
that where two or three are gathered together, I am there as well. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
In His presence, there is fullness of joy. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:43 | |
We are doing this ordinance of communion to never forget the price | 0:07:45 | 0:07:50 | |
that you paid for us to redeem us, to make us free and we thank you, Lord. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:56 | |
Mum and Dad would have been strong Christians. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
I knew that if my dad and mum were ready for heaven | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
and if anything happened and I wasn't right with God, | 0:08:02 | 0:08:07 | |
that I would go down the other way, to a lost eternity without Christ. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:14 | |
It was just like the Holy Spirit was saying, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
you need to make the decision to follow Christ. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
Everyone has their cross to bear and I think that's a tremendous help | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
I have had and carried down this past 30 years. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:30 | |
That's a good dog, come on! | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
'When you're working for local government in the public service, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
'you strive to do the best for the people you work for,' | 0:08:50 | 0:08:55 | |
people who work for you and most of all, for the community you serve | 0:08:55 | 0:08:59 | |
because that's what public service is all about. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
These are all bits and pieces in Omagh, you wouldn't want that stuff. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
I never get a chance to get these all in order. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
That's going into Buckingham Palace. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
MBE. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
Buckingham Palace. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:26 | |
It was nice to get it | 0:09:29 | 0:09:30 | |
and nice to think that you were appreciated for your services | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
in local government, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
but it isn't the most overriding factor in my life. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:39 | |
I wouldn't swap my faith for it, let's put it that way! | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
Then going back a few years, | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
this is the photograph of the former City Hall in Armagh, | 0:09:50 | 0:09:55 | |
which was bombed in 1972. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
It always sticks in my memory because I came down the stairs | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
and saw the two brown cases after we got the alarm. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:05 | |
I suppose it was like jumping Beecher's Brook | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
at the Grand National - I cleared them, | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
with a gusto, and out through the front door | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
and within ten minutes, that is what was left of the building. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:18 | |
This is with John Major and myself and Jim Nicholson. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:30 | |
That is the Queen on her visit to Armagh to convey city status. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:37 | |
The visit of President Clinton and Hillary Clinton meeting Margaret | 0:10:38 | 0:10:42 | |
and myself on the Mall before he gave that very famous speech, | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
the peace speech, in Armagh, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
the speech of the peace process in many ways. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
The idea of service to others, being not selfish for yourself | 0:10:52 | 0:10:58 | |
but selflessness, I think that is | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
what the Christian life is all about. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
You can look at all of these people, they all have power, | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
but what is important is how they use the power | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
and responsibility that they have. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
That is the Christian ethos, and I think, from my perspective, | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
it's critical. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
PREACHER: All that is required for you to be saved | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
and experience God's salvation | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
is belief or faith in Jesus Christ. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:34 | |
-Thank you, God, for our food. Amen. -Praise the Lord! | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
This one night, there was a sense that I knew that God was calling, | 0:11:47 | 0:11:52 | |
that I had to give my life to God. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
The night I was saved, I was sitting in that corner there. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
I came back in here at around nine o'clock. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
I came home from the meeting | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
and I'd felt I hadn't heard from God, I felt nothing and I felt numb. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:11 | |
I think I'd fought so much inwardly against God | 0:12:11 | 0:12:16 | |
because I had heard the gospel message being preached. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
I knew that not only did I need to be saved but that God loved me | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
and he wanted to save me, he wanted me to turn to him | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
and quit trying to do everything myself. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
I had a whole life going on, | 0:12:26 | 0:12:27 | |
that I knew was going to be shattered. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
Everything I stood for, everything I was involved in, everything I did, | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
my whole lifestyle, my circle of friends, | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
everything we did together was absolutely contrary to what | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
God's people would be doing or what you'd be expected to do. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:42 | |
I got to the stage where I realised that | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
all these things I think are important, they're not, | 0:12:45 | 0:12:49 | |
because I'm still sitting here by myself, on my own. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
I do believe it was a test, a test of, if this is what you want, | 0:12:53 | 0:12:58 | |
this is really what you want to do, you make the move. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
It was a leap of faith, | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
it was one of the hardest decisions I've had to make. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
That's when I made the decision that I want to get right with God | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
and that's what I did that night from this living room on 28 December 2002. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:15 | |
That's where it all happened, where it started, anyhow. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
As a small boy growing up, we lived above our shop, | 0:13:34 | 0:13:39 | |
which was a small garage, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
and sold motor and other types of material and goods. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
We had lots of neighbours and we played together. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
On 12 August, over 60 years ago, | 0:13:52 | 0:13:56 | |
I was visited by John, who was a great pal of mine. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
I can recall that I wasn't all that well, | 0:14:00 | 0:14:05 | |
I think I must have been sick with something or other, | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
because John came up to see me in the bedroom | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
and as small boys do, I suppose we played and chatted. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:16 | |
Then afterwards, when he was leaving, | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
there was a most horrific accident | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
and John was... | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
..killed, | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
I suppose there's no other way of putting it, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
by a milk lorry. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:33 | |
I witnessed the scene. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
It is a scene I have never forgotten or will ever forget. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
Or don't want to forget. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
I suppose that was my first experience of death. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
Until then, one didn't have an appreciation, as a child, of death. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:11 | |
What I learned from that in many senses was obviously, | 0:15:15 | 0:15:20 | |
you don't live for ever. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
Death can come very quickly. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
Even as a child, you can experience it. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
But how painful it can be. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
This was horrendous, obviously, for the family. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
Losing a child, I cannot imagine how you would cope with that. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:41 | |
But Mrs Sherry did cope with it and what shone through that | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
was her faith, which created an impression on me, | 0:15:47 | 0:15:51 | |
and the faith of that family. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:52 | |
The dignity, the compassion within the family and the neighbours | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
and friends who rallied round. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
As I reflect back on that, it was really Christian care and concern. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:07 | |
That was my first understanding of that. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
We would have went to Mountain Lodge in the evening time. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
My mum and dad at the start of the '70s would have started | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
going there to Mountain Lodge and I would have went with him. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:07 | |
My dad, after he was there for a number of years, | 0:17:13 | 0:17:18 | |
he would have become a bit more senior | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
and when we went into the main body of the church, | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
he would have stayed in the entrance hall just to welcome people | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
and then he would have come in and joined us after that. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
I would say we were probably one of the last ones in that evening. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
I think the singing had already started. Then we just filed in. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:42 | |
That was the old text on the wall. It still was there 30 years ago. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:11 | |
"The coming of the Lord draweth nigh." | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
We moved into our pew, which would have been roughly here. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:25 | |
The hymn books used to be in the front, so you grabbed a hymn book | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
and the pastor would have called out the hymn. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
We were singing away, as we do. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
The next thing we heard, as the pastor has said, | 0:18:40 | 0:18:48 | |
it was like pebbles being thrown up against the window. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
Whenever you are not used to the sound of gunfire so close, | 0:18:52 | 0:18:59 | |
you probably wonder what is going on. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:04 | |
These doors burst open and Dad ran. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
I can just see him out of the corner of my eye. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
Just running up and I think he shouted, "Get down, get down!" | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
So we all got down. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
I remember getting down just under the seats as best we could | 0:19:20 | 0:19:25 | |
until the bullets all stopped and everything was just very silent. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:33 | |
I can remember getting out of the seat and going up the aisle | 0:19:39 | 0:19:43 | |
and following where Dad had went. I member seeing him, lying. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:49 | |
I remember asking a lady, was he dead? | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
She said, "Yeah, I think he is, son." | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
'My sister recalls how I came back out of that room | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
'bawling at the top of my voice.' | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
We never realised then, my dad had...wasn't there any more. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:09 | |
-REPORTER: -The Pentecostal Church was filled today with police | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
and soldiers, not worshippers. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
The killers describe themselves as the Catholic Reaction Force, | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
an unknown grouping, with a title implying revenge | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
and narrow sectarianism. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
-Hello? -Hello. How are you? -Doing all right. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
'The Bible talks about faith being a gift | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
'and we all get different measures of faith. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
'I think God has given me a great measure of faith.' | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
That was you at your sweetest, when you were all wee angels. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
-Mmm. -Mmm. What happened? | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
'People would say, "How do you know you are saved? | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
"I would say, "I know I'm saved, because I know I'm saved." | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
God has put such a mark within me. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
You weren't bad, by any stretch of the imagination. Wild, maybe, | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
but you have changed and you have settled and you do know | 0:21:29 | 0:21:34 | |
your responsibilities now. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:35 | |
I can't ask more out of life than that for you. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:40 | |
'Thank you, God.' | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
Thank you, God. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:43 | |
CHILDREN REPEAT PHRASE | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
'My whole desire has changed, my attitude changed, | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
'my thought process changed. I used to work all day and night.' | 0:21:48 | 0:21:53 | |
I put that into perspective and started working a normal 9-5 or 8-5. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
'I started to spend time with my family. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
'My whole life changed, in that area.' | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
'I have an oldest boy of 17, coming now. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
'All of a sudden, it was, my sons are precious to me. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
I want to build relationships. My life's too precious | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
to be walking about Monday to Friday with my head down and the drink. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
I want to enjoy my life. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
When I got saved, I became a better father. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
There were years I didn't realise, I didn't appreciate, what... | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
-When I got saved, I started to invest in you... -Filled a bigger bond. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:30 | |
Filled a bond. We have a bond, thankfully. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
I think before I got saved, anyway, my relationship with you... | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
I was too selfish. It was all me, me, me. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
'Me and my father didn't have a great relationship, | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
'but when we both became Christians, | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
'at separate times and different places, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
'God saved the both of us and now we have a great relationship.' | 0:22:48 | 0:22:53 | |
So, God restores. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:54 | |
GOSPEL SINGING | 0:23:03 | 0:23:07 | |
'Faith, for me, | 0:23:10 | 0:23:11 | |
'is something that God has given me. Faith is that I can see God, | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
'that even when things are not going how I thought they would turn out, | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
'I know that He is in control of my life.' | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
GOSPEL SINGING | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
There will be 1,000 reasons come against you, to discourage you from | 0:23:25 | 0:23:29 | |
giving your life to the Lord, but you know one thing, | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
I will say this, I wasted at last three years fighting with myself, | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
thinking that this world offered better. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
I was fortunate that God was still patient with me and I came to a point | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
where I could. Forget about who you are and what people think about you, | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
even what you think of yourself, because quite early on, | 0:23:46 | 0:23:50 | |
when I got saved, I talked about not being a man who could follow through | 0:23:50 | 0:23:54 | |
on things, and that is true. But I thank God that He follows through | 0:23:54 | 0:23:58 | |
on all things. | 0:23:58 | 0:23:59 | |
CHORAL SINGING | 0:23:59 | 0:24:05 | |
If we had all the answers now, there would be no mystery. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
If we had all the answers now, there'd be no need for faith. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:16 | |
Faith means you have to have faith in something you can't see, | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
can't touch, can't feel, but you know that, somehow or other, | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
this is right. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:24 | |
CHORAL SINGING | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
We are mindful of what God can do. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
God is almighty. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
And so, we should have a reverence and an awe for God. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
'I can't imagine myself without faith.' | 0:24:43 | 0:24:45 | |
I suppose it is the fuel that keeps you going. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
'You will have your ups and downs. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:52 | |
'You will have your trials and tribulations, | 0:24:52 | 0:24:57 | |
'but you have that sort of relationship with the Saviour | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
'and you have that understanding that there is hope for you | 0:25:00 | 0:25:05 | |
'and there is hope for everybody.' | 0:25:05 | 0:25:07 | |
CHORAL SINGING | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
'There is one hymn that sums up my belief, | 0:25:12 | 0:25:16 | |
'because it talks about people coming together.' | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
"All praise to our redeeming Lord He join us by His grace | 0:25:20 | 0:25:25 | |
"And bids us each to each restored Together seek his face. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:30 | |
"And if our fellowship below In Jesus be so sweet | 0:25:30 | 0:25:34 | |
"What height of rapture shall we know | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
"When round His throne we meet." | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
To me, that sums up my belief. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 | |
'I feel sorry for anyone who can lift a gun or plant a bomb... | 0:26:15 | 0:26:21 | |
'..and kill a fellow human being. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:26 | |
'You do wonder, at times, | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
'and over the years, you sort of just say, you know,' | 0:26:31 | 0:26:38 | |
"Why? Why did it have to be us? | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
"Why Darkley? Why a church?" | 0:26:42 | 0:26:47 | |
'There is a lot of bad things happen to good people and, | 0:26:47 | 0:26:51 | |
'because of my Christian belief and Christian upbringing | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
'and my relationship with God, I don't hold any bitterness | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
'towards them. It is my duty, as a Christian,' | 0:26:58 | 0:27:02 | |
to forgive those who sin against me, as The Lord's Prayer teaches us. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:08 | |
Although I am sure that tonight may be difficult for some of those | 0:27:10 | 0:27:15 | |
that are present with us, this evening is not | 0:27:15 | 0:27:19 | |
so much about how our friends died, it is about how they lived. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:25 | |
For all three, as elders of Mountain Lodge Pentecostal Church, | 0:27:25 | 0:27:29 | |
were devout Christian believers. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
'It is like what Jesus said about the house that was built on sand - | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
'you can't build your life on the sand, cos if you build you life | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
'on the sand and the rains come, then the house will fall down. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
'He said, "Build your life on the rock." | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
'Thankfully, that is my testimony that, whenever the storm came, | 0:27:56 | 0:28:02 | |
'those 30-odd years ago, that my house | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
'and my life was built on a firm foundation, on a firm rock. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:09 | |
'And, as a result of that, the storm, the tragedy,' | 0:28:09 | 0:28:14 | |
it didn't sink me. I was kept firm. And that is the key. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:19 | |
CHORAL SINGING | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 |