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Travelling from her home in Stockton-on-Tees to the South Wales coast | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
is Paralympic champion, Baroness Tanni Grey-Thompson. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:10 | |
Known simply as Tanni to everyone, | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
she's here in Wales to trace her family ancestry | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
and a hidden story of high drama on the high seas. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
In a sporting career of sheer determination and grit | 0:00:20 | 0:00:25 | |
as a Paralympian, Tanni has achieved simply everything, | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
from 16 Paralympic medals to over 30 world records | 0:00:28 | 0:00:33 | |
and triumphed against the very best in the world | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
to be acknowledged as the greatest British Paralympian of all time. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:41 | |
And she was supported every inch of the way by her late parents, | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
her mother Sulwen and her father Peter. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
And it's her dad Peter Grey's side of the family tree | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
that has remained a mystery for Tanni. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
My father died three years ago | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
and we found lots of sort of family photos. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:04 | |
It would be really interesting, yeah, it would be just amazing to know... | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
just kind of anything, actually, | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
because Dad was very quiet about stuff. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
So it's a voyage into the unknown | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
as Tanni Grey-Thompson is coming home. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
On this journey, Tanni will learn of a wayward ancestor... | 0:01:21 | 0:01:25 | |
So from selling dodgy drink to...doing this. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:30 | |
..discover a moving family story... | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
And at 74 years old, to do that is amazing. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
That's pretty... That is fantastic! | 0:01:36 | 0:01:41 | |
..and learn she wasn't the first in her family | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
to be honoured at Buckingham Palace. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
Oh, my God! | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
Setting off on her journey, | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
Tanni grew up in Cardiff along with her sister Sian, | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
but she went to school in the nearby coastal town of Penarth. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:02 | |
And it's in Penarth that her story begins, | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
at the Trinity Methodist Church in the centre of town, | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
where Tanni meets with genealogist Mike Churchill-Jones. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
-Hi, Tanni. -Hello. -Welcome to your tree reading. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
-Thank you. -I've been researching your family tree | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
-and this is what I've come up with. -Oh, wow! | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
OK. What do you think? | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
It's really weird seeing so many names...written down. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:29 | |
-Yeah, I can understand. -And just... | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
I don't know, I was expecting...kind of great-grandparents maybe, | 0:02:31 | 0:02:37 | |
or a little bit further, not...all this. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
Not faced with all this. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
It's actually quite emotional when you see it. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
And I didn't think I would be, | 0:02:44 | 0:02:45 | |
because I always think I'm not terribly emotional about stuff, | 0:02:45 | 0:02:49 | |
but when you see it all written down... | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
It's Tanni's father's side of the tree and her family's roots in South Wales | 0:02:51 | 0:02:56 | |
that Mike's been researching. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
He's taken the tree all the way back to Griffith Price in 1699, | 0:02:58 | 0:03:03 | |
Tanni's six times great-grandfather. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
But Mike starts the story with her great-great-great-grandparents, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:11 | |
Ann Price and her husband. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
Philemon Thomas. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
-Nice name. -We like strange names in our family, don't we? | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
Philemon was born in the Vale of Glamorgan | 0:03:18 | 0:03:22 | |
-and he was a master wheelwright. -Oh, right, OK. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
I've been given an award by the Master Wheelwrights Association, actually, because of my racing chair. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:32 | |
So I'd really like to go back to them and kind of go, | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
"Actually, there's lots of reasons why I should have had that, not just cos I had a racing chair." | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
Next, Mike draws Tanni's attention to her four times great-grandfather, William Billington. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:45 | |
The 1861 census shows him simply as a labourer, | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
but this is not the full story, as she will learn. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
Tanni's ancestors later moved from the Vale of Glamorgan to Cardiff, | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
which is where her grandmother Joyce Harvey lived. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
Sadly, Joyce died the year before Tanni was born | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
and she has always wanted to know more of her story. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
Joyce, she died in 1968 in Cardiff, she was born in 1905 in Birkenhead. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:15 | |
She was born to Joyce Elizabeth Hill and John Henry Harvey. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:21 | |
Interesting, because I never knew my grandmother's surname was Harvey. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:27 | |
Finally, Tanni can also see on the tree | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
that she has ancestors from Cornwall whose surname was Lobb. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
The Lobb line goes back to your oldest ancestor there. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
-Oh, wow! -Uh-huh. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:39 | |
1697. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
Through her Lobb family, | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
Tanni will learn of her rich maritime past of generations of sailors | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
who came from Cornwall to settle on the South Wales coast. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
This photograph shows Tanni's great-great-grandfather, Captain William Lobb, | 0:04:53 | 0:04:58 | |
pictured in the 1920s. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
William, like his father, would take to the sea, | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
and it's his adventures that will come to dominate Tanni's journey into her family's past. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:09 | |
Wow! | 0:05:09 | 0:05:10 | |
Now Tanni is heading off for the first part of her story. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
She's visiting the seafront in Penarth near Cardiff | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
on the trail of her great-great-grandfather William | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
and his life as a sailor. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
Just like his ancestors, it was the sea that called to him. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
He left the coast of South Wales far behind, | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
heading for adventure on the other side of the world. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
His time at sea has all been recorded in the maritime archive. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
And back on dry land at the lifeboat station on Penarth's promenade, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
Tanni meets with expert Bryan Richards, | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
who has found records of William from an early age. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
We do know that...William went to sea when he was 13 years of age. | 0:05:55 | 0:06:01 | |
Wow! | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
I had no idea. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
In 1858, William was recorded as being a ship's boy. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
There was no formal training, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
so as a boy he would have had to learn his trade, | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
which, on the ship, would have been running messages for the captain, | 0:06:16 | 0:06:20 | |
helping the cook, taking food down to the crew, | 0:06:20 | 0:06:24 | |
learning about sails and the rigging. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
The records show that by the age of 17, | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
William was sailing around the treacherous seas of Cape Horn to Chile | 0:06:30 | 0:06:35 | |
to bring back precious copper ore to Swansea. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
Bryan knows the details of these voyages, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
because these are William's personal record cards | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
showing the ships he served on and the time he spent at sea. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
It's amazing that you've got... | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
That the record cards has got everything that he's done, that the record-keeping was so good. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:55 | |
William must have been an exemplary sailor, | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
because the records show he worked his way up from ship's boy | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
all the way to master mariner. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
And this is the master mariner certificate. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
Wow! | 0:07:09 | 0:07:10 | |
And it was issued in...November, 1870. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:16 | |
So Tanni has learned that her great-great-grandfather William | 0:07:18 | 0:07:22 | |
was qualified as a ship's captain in 1870, | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
but there is great deal more hidden in his story for Tanni to uncover. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
BIRDSONG | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
Next, Tanni is off to St Fagans National History Museum in Cardiff. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:37 | |
She's on the trail of William Billington, | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
her great-great-great-great-grandfather, who was from Cheshire. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
The census of 1861 describes him just as a labourer, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:48 | |
but it appears he also had a more intriguing occupation, | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
as medical historian Dr Alan Withy has discovered. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
Straightaway Alan shows Tanni William's census return for 1871. | 0:07:55 | 0:08:00 | |
"William Billington. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
-"Bone...cutter?" -It's bone setter. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
Well, in actual fact, William Billington is known with three different medical titles, | 0:08:08 | 0:08:14 | |
he's known as a bone setter, as a surgeon and as a doctor. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
Now, that's really unusual. You don't tend to get people in each category. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:24 | |
A bone setter, for example, is something very specific. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
You're normally a bone setter as part of a family lineage, | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
it goes from father to son, and on. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
A surgeon again is something fairly specific. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
The general practitioner hasn't really emerged by this period, mid-19th century, yet, | 0:08:36 | 0:08:41 | |
so he does seem to be a bit of an everyman. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
William worked as a surgeon | 0:08:45 | 0:08:46 | |
at a time when anaesthetic was in its infancy. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
Many of William's patients would likely have been | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
semi-conscious whilst he set about treating them. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
But what sort of training would he have received? | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
He would have learnt on the job, so to speak, | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
but how quality that training would be is debatable. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:06 | |
What would his sort of working conditions be like? | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
Would he just sort of go to people's houses and do stuff? | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
Yeah. I mean, in this period, and especially in a rural area, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
he wouldn't have his own little hospital or operating theatre as such. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:21 | |
People might well come to him. And if he has a good reputation | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
as a surgeon or as a doctor or as a bone setter, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
people may well come from miles around. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
It may be no more than performing the operation on the kitchen table. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:34 | |
It's hard to imagine the pain many of William's surgical patients | 0:09:34 | 0:09:38 | |
must have endured as he sought to treat them. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
At this time, there were only a few crude ways to try and dull the pain. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
Laudanum, chloroform, we have there, | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
which are available in local apothecary shops. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
Also, something like a heavy dose of strong liquor | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
-is not unknown as a...pain relief. -SHE LAUGHS | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
The census shows that even in old age, William was still working. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:06 | |
It's interesting to note that, aged 82, he's still listed as being a bone setter. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:12 | |
That would actually be very unusual, | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
because the strength that you need in order to perform the act of bone setting, | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
especially in the bigger limbs, shall we say, | 0:10:17 | 0:10:22 | |
would require help. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
So what, did they just sort try to shove the bones back together | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
and strap them up? | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
That's right. In a broken arm, that would be fairly simple, | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
you can manipulate the bone back into place and strap it up with a splint, | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
but if a thigh bone breaks or becomes dislocated, | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
then it can take the services of several...several assistants, | 0:10:38 | 0:10:42 | |
and especially aged 82. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:43 | |
We can only imagine the poor patient sitting there as several burly men relocate their leg, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:48 | |
cos the muscles contract and it gets very difficult to do. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
So, yeah, he would have had some help, I would imagine, by that age. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
-If you don't get it right, that's when you start using things like that. -Hmm. Exactly. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
Oh! Yuck! That's horrible! SHE LAUGHS | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
Now Tanni is back on the trail of her great-great-grandfather, William Lobb, in Penarth. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:07 | |
She now knows he was a sailor from the 1860s, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
but 20 years later, it appears William had left the sea behind | 0:11:11 | 0:11:16 | |
and in 1887 was on dry land running a pretty rowdy pub, | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
as historian Dr Louise Miskell has been finding out. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
It's given as licensed victualler, | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
-which basically means he's running a pub. -Yeah. That's the posh title, isn't it? | 0:11:27 | 0:11:31 | |
It is, isn't it? | 0:11:31 | 0:11:32 | |
Interestingly, though, we can pick him up in other records as well | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
from around the same period. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
So I'll show you one from the 1880s. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
A newspaper called The Cambrian. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
"Landlord of the Terminus Hotel | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
"was summoned for keeping his house open on Sunday." SHE LAUGHS | 0:11:45 | 0:11:49 | |
"PC Jones, 18, | 0:11:49 | 0:11:50 | |
"said that at 11.30 on the morning in question, | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
"he visited the defendant's house. In the bar he saw five men | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
"and four in another small room. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
"Mr DR Smith defended, stating that there was no case for the court | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
"as all the men in the house had sworn | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
"that they were bona fide travellers. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
"They must be especially careful as to whom they supplied with drink. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
"He did not think they could convict the defendant under the circumstances | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
"and the case would be dismissed." | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
It appears William didn't use the warning to mend his ways. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:21 | |
Just a year later... This is the interesting bit here, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
if you just want to read the first few lines of this article. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
This is from The Cambrian newspaper again. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
And, as you can see, the article begins with the words "The Black List". | 0:12:31 | 0:12:37 | |
"The following is a list of those persons | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
"who've been convicted during the past years, 1887-8, | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
"for various offences. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
"William Lobb, Terminus Hotel, Rutland Street." | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
Again, these are people convicted under the licensing laws. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:52 | |
-Erm... -"Convicted for breaches of the Act." -Yes. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
-Yeah. -Oh! | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
So...it's interesting, isn't it, that he's the first name on the list. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
-Lovely. -I wonder what that says about him as...a known offender. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:07 | |
-It's not alphabetical, is this? No. -It's not, no. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
So maybe he was the worst offender. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
Well, he might have been, yes, unfortunately. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
Again, I think what it tells us | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
is that by this stage, 1888, he's known to the authorities, | 0:13:17 | 0:13:21 | |
not necessarily for the right reasons, | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
and somebody who they're keeping a close eye on | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
for these licensing offences. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
-It's not good, is it? -No. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
Oh, dear! I have a criminal in the family. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
So far, Tanni has learned that her great-great-grandfather William Lobb | 0:13:35 | 0:13:40 | |
was both a master mariner and a publican convicted for selling drink on a Sunday, | 0:13:40 | 0:13:45 | |
which makes the next story she is about to learn all the more extraordinary. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:50 | |
She's back with Mike Churchill-Jones | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
who's impatient to reveal some new information. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
He's traced William to 1918, now in his 70s. | 0:13:56 | 0:14:01 | |
Hi, Tanni. You've been learning today | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
about your great-great-grandfather, William Stephen Lobb. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
He became a master mariner, captained his own ship. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:11 | |
He even worked as a publican... | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
and you've heard all the intrigues of that. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
Now, I've actually found his name in...the London Gazette. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:22 | |
Have a look at that. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
It's the frame down here on the left-hand side. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
The London Gazette publishes the names | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
of those recognised in the honours list. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:31 | |
-Oh, so it's recognition...for something. -Right. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
-You'd like to know what it is? -Yeah. SHE LAUGHS | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
-There it is. -Oh, my God! | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
-Do you want to read it? -That's amazing! | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
"The Most Excellent Order of the British Empire." | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
It's his MBE. So what did he get it for? | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
So just like Tanni, her great-great-grandfather William Lobb was awarded an MBE. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:56 | |
He was aged 74 at the time, | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
but just why did he receive this special award? | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
That's... I wish our family had known about it. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
He was honoured in the Birthday Honours List of the King | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
and that's all we know. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:15 | |
The records have been lost, they've been destroyed, we don't know why he got it. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:20 | |
Tanni would really love to know | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
just why William was given this great honour in 1918, | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
but is at least thrilled to know he received it. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
That's amazing. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
I wish we'd known about it, cos it's...cos it was such a big deal for my family, me getting one, | 0:15:33 | 0:15:39 | |
but to know that there'd been somebody else who'd done it would be...incredible. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:45 | |
William Lobb MBE. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
SHE TUTS | 0:15:47 | 0:15:48 | |
It's nice, isn't it? | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
That's really lovely, actually. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
That's amazing to know that there's kind of people who have done that. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:57 | |
I'm kind of lost for words and that doesn't happen very often. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
That is absolutely amazing. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:03 | |
Good on him. So, from selling dodgy drink to doing this. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:08 | |
He... He did really well in the end. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
-He did, yeah. -Wow! | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
That's nice. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
The records showing why William was awarded the MBE may be destroyed, | 0:16:16 | 0:16:21 | |
but there is still more to learn of his story. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
Next, Tanni is back on the seafront. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
She knows that her maternal grandparents and great-grandparents lived here in Penarth. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:34 | |
Today, its waterfront from the marina to the pier | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
are dedicated to leisure for day trippers and locals alike, | 0:16:37 | 0:16:41 | |
making it hard to believe that this area was once dominated by a busy coal port | 0:16:41 | 0:16:46 | |
owned by the Windsor-Clives | 0:16:46 | 0:16:47 | |
rivals to the Bute family who owned nearby Cardiff Docks. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
On Penarth pier, Tanni meets with historian, Nigel Bevan, | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
to learn more about the town her grandparents called home. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
Penarth at that time, it had been developed from the 1850s onwards | 0:16:59 | 0:17:04 | |
by the Windsor-Clive family, the earls of Plymouth. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
If you go back to that late-19th-century period, | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
Penarth Docks thrived for many, many years. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
Erm...the Bute family, the Marquises of Bute, | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
they'd developed Cardiff before Penarth. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
Cardiff's first great dock opened in 1839. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
Business was great. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:25 | |
I mean, Cardiff Docks grew to be one of the biggest ports in the world, | 0:17:25 | 0:17:29 | |
but it was often in a state of chaos. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
-So was there really big rivalry between the two families to see who could be the best? -Oh, a lot. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:36 | |
They were both extremely rich and they bumped against each other. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:41 | |
So, yes, there was rivalry between them. In 1878 though, the passenger railway | 0:17:41 | 0:17:45 | |
came through to the centre of the new Penarth Town | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
and the Plymouth estate decided that this half of the town, | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
on the south side running down to the beach, | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
this would be developed as a very smart upmarket resort. | 0:17:55 | 0:18:00 | |
You've got these really big houses and, you know, very grand. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
-Was the idea that sort of people of wealth would move into Penarth? -Very much so. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:08 | |
As the resort got going, it became a very desirable place to live. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
So some of the richer business people from Cardiff, | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
they developed big villas above the resort looking over the sea. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:20 | |
Marine Parade, this is where the big houses went in. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
And interestingly, these people were able to commute to work in Cardiff Docks | 0:18:23 | 0:18:28 | |
by catching a boat from the beach. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:30 | |
And for the less well off, Penarth was connected to Cardiff by a tunnel | 0:18:30 | 0:18:35 | |
from the entrance to Penarth Docks going under the River Ely to Ferry Road. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:40 | |
It cost you a ha'penny to go through. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
This pedestrian tunnel was completed in 1900 | 0:18:43 | 0:18:47 | |
and only finally closed in 1963. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
At half a mile long and poorly lit, | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
it was said to be a favourite with Edwardian pickpockets. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
Tanni has a story passed down in her family about the tunnel. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
One of my grandads...so my mum's father's first job was taking gold sovereigns underneath the tunnel. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:09 | |
And he'd have a bag and I remember him saying that if anyone had ever known what he was doing, | 0:19:09 | 0:19:14 | |
he would have been hit over the head and the money would have been taken. HE LAUGHS | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
And I don't know where he was taking it from or to, | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
-but he was paid as a messenger to go through the tunnel. -To go through that tunnel. Oh, lovely. Lovely. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
Shortly, Tanni will learn the last dramatic chapter | 0:19:24 | 0:19:29 | |
in her great-great-grandfather William Lobb's story, | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
but first, at the start of her journey, | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
she wanted to know more about her grandmother, Joyce Harvey, | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
who died the year before Tanni was born. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
But what did Tanni's dad tell her about his mother, Joyce? | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
Mike Churchill-Jones has been researching her story. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
My dad was so close to her, I think it upset him to talk about her, | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
so that's why we never really heard anything about her. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
-25 days before she was baptised, this occurred. -Yeah. | 0:19:56 | 0:20:01 | |
From 1905, around the time Joyce was born, | 0:20:01 | 0:20:05 | |
Mike has also found a death certificate. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
-Entry of death? -Yes. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
So whose? | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
It's actually Joyce Elizabeth, her mother. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
Ohh! So she died in childbirth or...? | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
She lasted 14 days. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
OK. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
-Wow! -So 14 days after your grandmother was born, | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
-she lost her mother. -Gone. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
-At 29 years. -Hmm. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
It's young, isn't it? | 0:20:36 | 0:20:37 | |
That's really young. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
I guess back then, childbirth was still...fairly hit and miss, wasn't it? | 0:20:40 | 0:20:44 | |
-It was indeed, yeah. -And just... -So tragedy for the family. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:48 | |
-Your grandmother had a sister, so she left two children and a husband. -Yeah. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:54 | |
And her husband obviously then called your grandmother... | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
-After... -After her mother. | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
That's really sweet, isn't it? | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
-It's just... -And you had no idea? | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
No idea at all. I mean, that was never talked about within the family. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:10 | |
I think Joyce was very close to my dad and my mum, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
but...that was never mentioned. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:17 | |
We kind of knew sort of deaths on my mum's side of the family, | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
but never, never talked about it on my dad's. No, not at all. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
-That's quite hard, isn't it? -Hmm. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
You forget how many women died sort of either in childbirth or as a result of childbirth. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:32 | |
So how does Tanni feel about what she's learned? | 0:21:32 | 0:21:36 | |
It's sad to think that my great-grandmother died at the age of 29 | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
and, you know, their family life changed sort of for ever, | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
but I think maybe that sort of... | 0:21:44 | 0:21:48 | |
gives me a bit more understanding about the way my dad was then brought up. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
You know, my dad sort of was very much protected as a child | 0:21:52 | 0:21:56 | |
and wasn't allowed to do a lot of stuff, play outside the house, | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
you know, was sort of kept at home. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
And it's probably that whole fear if something happened to your loved one. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
But as a result of my dad being brought up like that, | 0:22:04 | 0:22:06 | |
his decision to kind of bring me up as someone who wanted | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
to travel the world and explore and do something entirely different. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
So sort of slightly weird that out of that sort of tragedy, you know, | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
my dad gave me a huge amount of freedom that I might not have otherwise had. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:21 | |
So that is quite a sort of bizarre feeling knowing that that's where I've come from. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:25 | |
Now Tanni is about to learn the final chapter of William Lobb's story. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:32 | |
By the outbreak of World War I, William was nearly 70... | 0:22:32 | 0:22:36 | |
..but his maritime experience | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
meant he was able to join the merchant navy, | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
captaining a ship in the convoys | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
bringing vital supplies into Britain. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
And historian, Dr Jonathan Hicks, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
may just have uncovered the reason for William's MBE. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
Well, I've done a little bit of research into | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
your great-great-grandfather's service during the First World War. | 0:22:56 | 0:23:00 | |
And I can tell you a little bit about how he spent his time, | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
which might give you a clue as to how he won the MBE. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
At the start of the Great War, as you know, | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
he was appointed as a captain. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:10 | |
And he had his own ship, the SS Silvia. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
On the 15th of March...a German submarine spotted William's ship, | 0:23:13 | 0:23:20 | |
surfaced and this happened. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
And I'd like you, if you could, to read that for us. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:26 | |
This is an account of the actions taken by William Lobb as captain of his ship in March 1918. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:32 | |
"At 5.30am, ship was attacked by gunfire | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
"from a submarine on the surface at a range of about 1,000 yards. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:40 | |
"On first shots being fired, the master gave order 'Hard a starboard' to bring guns to bear | 0:23:40 | 0:23:46 | |
"in order to take advantage of light in the eastern horizon. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
"He then told pilot to take charge | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
"and went aft to supervise and direct the gunfire. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
"Ship at once returned the fire and fired three rounds hitting submarine once for certain and possibly more. | 0:23:56 | 0:24:02 | |
"Submarine started to dive after second round from ship. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
"The master, who is 74 years old, acted very well." | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
SHE SOBS "Probably saved the ship from being torpedoed... | 0:24:12 | 0:24:17 | |
"by his prompt use of helm and opening fire. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
"He had no special recommendations to make." | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
That's amazing. I...I never thought I'd cry about a family relation that I didn't know anything about, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:32 | |
-but to not panic and to...at 74 years old to do that is amazing. -Hmm. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:39 | |
That's a pretty... | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
good reason to be given an MBE actually, isn't it? | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
That's amazing. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:46 | |
-I can't imagine anyone doing that at 74, can you? -No. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
That is fantastic. Absolutely amazing! | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
That is just incredible! | 0:24:51 | 0:24:53 | |
That's a photograph...of the German submarine. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
Oh. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
And it was driven off by the actions that William and his gunners took. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:03 | |
And the ship made it safely back to port. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
-And was everyone OK? -Everyone was OK. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
The two shots that hit the ship didn't cause any casualties. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:15 | |
Wow! | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
-Fair play. -Hmm. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
-So for that he may well have been awarded the MBE. -Yeah. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
But what we do know is that in the same edition of the newspaper, | 0:25:22 | 0:25:27 | |
he's also mentioned there receiving... | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
The Distinguished Service Cross. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
The Distinguished Service Cross. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
So besides his MBE...he would also have been awarded | 0:25:34 | 0:25:38 | |
the Distinguished Service Cross. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
Only people who had shown exceptional bravery | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
were rewarded in this way. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
These are examples of the medals he won. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
Wow! | 0:25:48 | 0:25:50 | |
My family had no clue about this. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
He saved the whole crew. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:54 | |
That's pretty amazing. We have no idea where those medals have gone, | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
-but he would have got those? -Yes. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:00 | |
That's pretty good. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
-Very proud of him. -There he is. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
-Oh, wow! -There's William. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
A grainy photograph it may be, but this is William in his full captain's uniform. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:17 | |
I hope I'm doing cool things when I'm 74. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
HE LAUGHS That's just... | 0:26:20 | 0:26:21 | |
My family had no clue about this. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
Good for him. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
Tanni is nearly at the end of her journey. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
But before leaving Penarth, | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
it's very important to her to make a return visit to the school in this town | 0:26:36 | 0:26:41 | |
that gave Tanni the vital start that ultimately lead to sporting greatness. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:46 | |
And some budding historians are busy preparing for her visit. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:53 | |
But just why was this school so vital in Tanni's story? | 0:26:53 | 0:26:57 | |
St Cyres was really important to me because at the time | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
it was the only school in South Glamorgan that would take wheelchair users. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:06 | |
And my parents had a big fight to get me here. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
I should have been through special education, and my parent's view is | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
I needed a school that was accessible, I didn't need different education. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
And now there's a chance for some of the current pupils | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
to meet one of the school's most successful former students. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:27:22 | 0:27:24 | |
Hello. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
Hello, everybody. Wow! | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
SHE GASPS | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
This is really weird being back here. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:35 | |
I went to school here a really long time ago, so... This used to be a library, | 0:27:35 | 0:27:39 | |
it was all filled with books when I was here, so it's really different. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
Tanni can now show the pupils her family tree. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:46 | |
So today, I've been finding out about my great-great-grandfather, | 0:27:46 | 0:27:50 | |
which is... Like, can you imagine your great-great-grandfather? | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
-Yeah. -Were your family aware of what your great-great-granddad done? | 0:27:53 | 0:27:59 | |
No, my parents didn't have a clue at all, so my dad didn't know anything about it. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:03 | |
We absolutely didn't know that he'd got an MBE. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
My dad would have loved to have known that. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
Now coming to the end of her journey, | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
how does Tanni feel about what she's learned? | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
The experience was so much more emotional than I was expecting, | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
cos I only really knew about my grandparents. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:20 | |
There is a bit of a feeling of...it's not quite sadness, but I wish my dad had known. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:25 | |
But, you know, there's so much that I wish he'd known about. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
But...I think he would have been incredibly proud | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
to know that on his side of the family, you know, | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
that somebody like William Lobb had existed. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
And the children of St Cyres can't let Tanni go | 0:28:36 | 0:28:40 | |
without a little surprise of their own. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
Oh, wow! That's amazing! | 0:28:43 | 0:28:44 | |
SHE LAUGHS Thank you very much. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:46 | |
That is absolutely beautiful. They're huge! | 0:28:46 | 0:28:49 | |
Thank you very much. That is so sweet. Thank you. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
Aw! | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
"Tanni, thank you for coming home from all the boys and girls at St Cyres." | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
Thank you very much. Thank you. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
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