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How often have you watched the news and seen disasters?

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-NEWS REPORTER:

-The sea rose up 20 feet, flooding the area.

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And tragedies?

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-NEWS REPORTER:

-The bomb exploded at about 3.10pm this afternoon.

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But what if you were caught up in the events?

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GUNFIRE

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I've been out there and checked so many bodies, and she's not there.

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And now, inspired by your past,

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you're on a mission to help someone today...

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We'd like to help someone, obviously,

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that's been through something similar as ourselves.

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Hopefully, I'll be able to help him to achieve some of his goals.

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..someone who has no idea that this life-changing gift is coming.

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-Oh! I don't know what to say!

-APPLAUSE

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Hiya.

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CHEERING

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Thank you so much.

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We're here today to surprise somebody very special.

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This is Going Back, Giving Back.

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It's August, 2011.

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SIRENS BLARE

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Violence has erupted on the streets of the capital...

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We've just been attacked.

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A rock has come through the window.

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..businesses are ransacked and torched...

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Oh, my God! I don't know why people do this!

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..livelihoods destroyed...

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There are flames going up the building.

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You know, ten minutes longer in that building

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and we would have been dead.

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..scores of families made homeless...

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He's a child.

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His precious things are here that he's lost that you can't get back.

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..neighbourhoods shattered...

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This is an attack on people who are now standing

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on the streets homeless.

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..in scenes that could have come from the Blitz.

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I've never seen anything like it in my life.

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It was absolutely devastating.

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The arson attack on this family-run furniture shop in Croydon becomes

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a symbol of the riots.

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That's our five generations, 1867,

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burnt to pieces because there's no law and order on the streets.

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But out of the destruction came defiance.

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A broom army of volunteers to the rescue.

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We want our streets back.

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This is where we live, and this is our community,

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and it's not for us to be bullied out of it by a group of criminals.

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Six years on, one of the brothers whose furniture shop burnt down

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wants to say thank you to the community

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which rallied around him...

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The support that we had after the fire was so tremendous.

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You feel that you just want to do something for the people

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that helped us.

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..by giving back to someone who did so much to help.

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Oh, my days!

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Why's there so many people outside?

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Oh, gosh, I can't even...

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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During the London riots of 2011, shocking images

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of the Reeves family store being engulfed by hundred-foot flames

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were beamed all over the world.

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The family store in the heart of Croydon had been on the same site

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for almost 150 years.

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It was completely gutted in the blaze,

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and became a symbol of the chaos and disruption caused by the rioters.

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I've come to meet 61-year-old Trevor who runs the family business

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along with his dad and brother.

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Hi, how are you. Good to see you.

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-You too. Come in.

-Thank you.

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The furniture shop was founded by his great-great-grandfather

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back in 1867.

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Situated on a busy junction in south London,

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the shop, that was a familiar landmark for many in the capital,

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was destroyed in a matter of hours, devastating the family.

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How did you feel when that happened to your pride and joy, if you like?

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-Were you angry?

-I found myself having violent swings of emotion.

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You know, you were really angry one minute and then it was just despair.

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All that history, you know?

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My father worked his life in the business

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and built it up in the '80s from practically nothing

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to where it was then, and all the previous history.

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There's a lot of weight on these shoulders for me and my brother

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and my father. It wasn't an easy time.

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News of the fire at the iconic furniture store spread quickly

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and produced an overwhelming response.

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The next day you turn up and all the staff have turned up,

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and there's people everywhere and the police are trying to keep people

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out of the shop because it's a crime scene

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and they want to come in and they want to help clear up.

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But is it true that people were coming from far and wide

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because they'd bought stuff in your store maybe 20, 30 years before?

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Well, it's a generational thing.

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When you've been somewhere for, sort of...

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Well, at that time it was 140, 145 years,

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you've got three generations of people potentially

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that can be there.

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We had a chap come down from Leicestershire.

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He came down from Leicestershire and he said,

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"I want to buy a wardrobe and I'm not going to buy a wardrobe unless

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"your dad signs it on the back."

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Right, OK. Where's Dad?

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We need the sale, where is he? Come on!

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The way the community came together and helped the family when they

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needed it most had a huge impact on Trevor.

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What's prompting you to want to give something back today?

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The support that we had after the fire was so tremendous.

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You know, you feel like you just want to do something for the people

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-that helped us.

-So what sort of person would you like to help?

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Well, it's got to be someone from the community, I think,

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because it was so strong.

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I think we can hopefully do that but in order for you to give back,

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I think first we need to go back,

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so that involves you jumping in the car with me.

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-Is that all right?

-Yeah, that's fine.

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Come on, let's go for it.

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We're taking Trevor back to the summer of 2011 -

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to the shattering evening when he witnessed

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his family's livelihood destroyed.

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This is a journey you've made before many times.

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Any idea where we're going?

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Well, judging by the initial direction

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we're probably going to work,

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which is, you know, Croydon, where the store is.

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The shop is so well known they even named the street

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and tram stop after it, Reeves Corner.

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Because your family and Croydon go back many,

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-well, many, many generations?

-Yeah, five generations.

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My great-great-grandfather came from Sherborne in Dorset.

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Trevor's great-great-grandfather Edwin arrived in Croydon in 1867.

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He opened Ye Olde Curiositie Shoppe, selling household goods.

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Trevor's grandfather William Thomas took over the business.

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Trevor's dad, Morris, then inherited it in the early '80s,

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transforming the store into one that buys and sells furniture.

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What was it like for you as a child growing up with it?

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The whole place was just wonderful as a kid.

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I remember going to my grandfather's office,

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William Thomas's office, and the only thing I'd want to go for

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is his drawer because he always kept

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a packet of mints in his drawer.

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And the company seal, he kept the company seal in his drawer.

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And I used to love putting bits of paper and pressing it and out would

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come the imprint of E Reeves Ltd.

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How fantastic!

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It was just the sort of thing you only use for legal documents

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and there was this wretched four-year-old

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coming and stamping everything!

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The furniture store wasn't just a business, it was also their home.

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Trevor grew up in a flat above the shop where he lived with his dad,

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Morris, mum Kathleen and brother Graham.

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I lived above the shop for probably about 15 years of my life.

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-Gosh.

-Various guises above there.

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I bet you were popular with girlfriends' families, weren't you?

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I couldn't possibly comment. Couldn't possibly comment!

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He'll be a good catch.

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-We can kit out our house.

-Yeah, kit out our house.

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We've got plenty of places to sleep!

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But everything changed in August 2011.

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The London riots were sparked by the police killing of Mark Duggan

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in Tottenham, North London, on Thursday the 4th of August 2011.

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A peaceful protest on a Saturday turned to violence

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against the police.

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By Monday the riots were spreading to South London.

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Trevor got a phone call alerting him that people

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were gathering around his furniture store.

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He rushed straight there.

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-So I knew there was something going on.

-Yeah.

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But you never quite know what.

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You drive down here and you know the shop is just around the corner and

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your heart's in your mouth thinking,

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"Crikey, what on earth am I going to find when I get there?"

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As Trevor arrived at about 7.30 on that fateful evening six years ago,

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the scene is one he'll never forget.

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As I walked in, there were all the crowds

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around the outside of the store here.

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They were smashing the windows.

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It was total mayhem going on out here.

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Rioters started looting Trevor's family shop.

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Just before nine o'clock,

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the arsonist is captured here on CCTV

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at the top of the screen setting fire to the building.

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There's something burning in his hand. He touches it to a sofa.

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You see the smoke and then you realise

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that someone's lit something.

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A passer-by is filming.

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I can't believe this. This building is...

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I've never seen anything like this in my life, ever.

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It's crazy. Like, proper.

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It's going to burst. It's going to pop through.

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What is wrong with people, man? This is just sick.

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Trevor sees his shop going up in flames,

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unable to do anything to help.

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It's going to go, it's just not going to be there in three or four

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hours' time and I was absolutely right.

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The place went up with such ferocity.

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-Did you watch it?

-Oh, yeah, I've got pictures on my phone of the fire.

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But the nightmare is only just beginning.

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With the shop now engulfed by an inferno of flames,

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the fire starts to spread and everyone realises

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someone is trapped in a neighbouring flat.

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Monika Konczyk runs to the window screaming for help.

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Locals ignore police warnings to stay back

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and defy thick smoke and heat to lay out cushions below.

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They yell at her to jump.

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Facing the prospect of burning to death, Monika jumps for her life.

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Incredibly, she is caught by a fireman below and escapes unharmed.

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As their shop burned down in front of them,

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Trevor and his brother Graham were interviewed on the BBC.

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Five generations, 1867,

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burnt to pieces because there's no law and order on the streets.

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That's Croydon and it's a shame, but we'll rebuild it,

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we'll be back in business and our furniture from our other store

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will still go out tomorrow morning and all the people who we've taken

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the money from, we're going to deliver their furniture tomorrow.

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Today, this desolate land is the site of the former

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Reeves furniture store.

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It's hard to imagine, standing here now

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that there was, what a three-storey furniture store here?

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Yeah, a three-storey furniture store, yes. It's a...

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I can visualise it now.

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-Just over there is where the desk used to be...

-Gosh.

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..opposite the door.

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I can see it all there, all slightly different levels

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from the old properties and the stairs going up

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to the Aladdin's cave upstairs.

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-There's a lot of history in this place.

-Of course.

-A lot of history.

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This empty space reminds Trevor every day of what happened that

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terrible night, but the family have managed to rebuild their business.

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Fortunately, the Reeves owned another building

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over the road which they used to store stock.

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This is where they've set up shop now.

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Well, as I can see, right behind your shoulders,

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-it's back in business.

-Yes.

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It looks great, the new store.

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We're very proud of where we've managed to get back to,

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we've just got to fight our way onwards.

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-Shall we take a look?

-Yeah, why not?

-Come on, let's go.

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Working inside the new store is Trevor's 86-year-old dad Morris.

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He came out of retirement after 16 years

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to help his sons restore the business.

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-How are you?

-Hello.

-Very nice to see you.

-And you.

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He too has vivid memories of that shocking night, but unlike Trevor,

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he didn't find out through a phone call.

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Instead, he'd just returned from a celebration dinner when he turned on

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the news to see reports of a building consumed by flames.

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I saw on television and I thought, "Well, that's not my shop."

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And of course it was. And then the rest is history, I suppose.

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How did you feel?

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Funnily enough, the doctor rang me up and said,

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"Don't have a heart attack."

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And he actually did do that.

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He said, "I know it's your shop going down, but just be careful."

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The following morning, well, I remember the drive down here.

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It is a thing you never forget.

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And then I saw the devastation.

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That morning, Morris was interviewed for the national news.

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I've worked all my life in them, developing the store,

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serving Croydon and it's utterly, completely shattering,

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mind-blowing that somebody can do this.

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I mean, it's been through two world wars,

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it's been through the deep depression in the 1930s,

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in the '80s and it wasn't touched.

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Yet, this has happened.

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How do you feel now when you look over at that site?

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Very sad because I spent half my life in that building

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and to see it go was heart-rending, really.

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The date itself is a happy day and a sad day for you.

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-Yes, definitely.

-Because it's your wedding anniversary.

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My wedding anniversary. Well, I shall never forget the date!

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That's true!

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No, it's a happy and a terrible day.

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But you have to move on and we put all our energy

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into the remaining shop, which we're quite proud of.

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The family business has now recovered.

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Both Trevor and his dad Morris agree this wouldn't have been

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possible without the overwhelming support

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from people living nearby and strangers further afield.

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The community was tremendous. They gave us full support.

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In fact, where I live, a whole row came and bought things from us.

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Did you ever think about giving up?

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Never. No.

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No, that's not my nature.

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And how do you feel about your son wanting to

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give something back to someone?

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Yes, well, that's a good idea.

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I don't know what is in his mind,

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but I'm sure anything that he says and does

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will be fantastic because that's what he is.

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Hey, check it out, you've got Father's approval.

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See? It was worth bringing me in here.

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-No, the community was so strong and behind us...

-Yeah.

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..with the common goal against the people that rioted.

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They took something from their community away

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which was that building that people had had generations with

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and they were so strong and so supportive of us,

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that if we have the opportunity, it's the right thing to do.

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You've definitely got the opportunity.

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-We're on a little voyage today as well, we're on our travels.

-Good.

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So it's time for you and me to get back in the car

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and we'll say thank you very much.

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I'm gutted, because I bought a sofa last week.

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If I knew we were coming here, I would have got one here.

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-I had the van as well!

-Oh, drat!

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-We'd even have given you discount!

-Oh, no!

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-Very nice to see you.

-And you.

-Come on, let's go.

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Remembering what his family lost in the 2011 riots and how the community

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spirit pulled them through,

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is what's motivating Trevor to want to give back.

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We think we've found someone who he'll want to help.

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The night of the London riots had a huge impact on Fatima Koroma.

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Appalled by the devastation,

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she was straight on the streets of Croydon to help clean up,

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kids and broom in tow.

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Living through the riots also motivated Fatima to want to help the

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vulnerable in the community and she now runs a food bank.

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That's yours today.

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-Is it?

-Yeah Unless you need something.....

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She thinks we're making a programme about Croydon after the London riots

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and has no idea that she could be in line for a generous gift.

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We've taken Trevor back to the summer of 2011,

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but now I'm taking him back much, much further.

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So have you got any idea where we're going now?

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-No idea at all.

-It's going to be a real voyage of discovery for you,

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that's all I'll say.

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Through hours of painstaking research,

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we believe we have discovered an extraordinary parallel

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between Trevor's great-great-grandfather

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who founded the family business and the London rioters.

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And how much do you know about the great great-grandfather, isn't it?

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Great-great-grandfather - Edwin Reeves.

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I know that he was an imposing gentlemen.

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We have a picture of him with his Abraham Lincoln stovepipe hat

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and his cigar and his Abe Lincoln beard.

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-So he obviously was the, you know, businessman...

-Yeah.

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..the powerful man then.

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Edwin came from Sherborne in Dorset and was a cooper by trade.

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Traditionally coopers were craftsmen employed by breweries and

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distilleries to make slatted wooden casks and barrels bound with metal

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hoops to store beer, wine and spirits.

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It was a highly skilled and physically demanding job

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that took four years of apprenticeship training.

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Edwin left Sherborne in the 1860s to travel to London.

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We've come to the market town of Guildford in Surrey,

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30 miles west of Croydon, where Edwin stayed for a few months.

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So why have I brought you here, do you reckon?

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Well, there's something in the family that says that Edwin Reeves,

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my great-great-grandfather made his journey to Croydon via Guildford.

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-He did.

-And that is about as much as I know.

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Well, you're about to find out a great deal more.

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-This is David Rose. Hi, David.

-Hello, hello.

-Good to see you.

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-He's a local historian.

-Nice to meet you.

-Hi there.

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So, Edwin, great-great-grandfather.

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We know quite a bit about him, don't we?

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We do. He came to Guildford some time after 1861.

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He comes to Guildford actually when the town

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was almost on the point of crisis,

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because every November 5th on Bonfire Night,

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Guildford joined in with the revelries

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as everywhere else did in the country,

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but in fact things got really boisterous here.

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In 1865, the Guy riots also took place on Boxing Day.

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Men armed with clubs and flaming torches

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marched through town, lighting fires and causing destruction

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along the way.

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So what happened to Edwin, then?

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Well, it seems as if he somehow got caught up into events

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that took place, known as the Guildford Guy Riots.

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-OK.

-And he, sort of, didn't come off too well because of that.

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-Where did he end up?

-Well, he was arrested.

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And he was taken to what is now called the Guildhall.

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On the 5th of January 1866,

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Edwin and three other men came before the mayor of Guildford

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at the town hall, charged with assault and actual bodily harm.

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-So this is it.

-An amazing building, isn't it?

-It really is.

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You can feel the history oozes out of the panels, doesn't it?

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-And this is where Edwin ended up?

-He would have come here, yes.

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What happened was the magistrate sitting here

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decided that their case had to be dealt with by jury.

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Three of the four were found guilty, including your

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-great-great-grandfather.

-Oh, dear.

-Sent to prison?

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This here is actually a document that records their time,

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as you can see it there, and you'll find that Reeves' name is down here.

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-Perhaps you might be able to see it.

-Yes, there's Edwin.

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-There was Edwin Reeves.

-"Assaulting of occasion..."

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"Occasion and actual bodily harm."

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Actual bodily harm.

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What a horrible drunken person he must've been on

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that particular night!

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He's sent to prison for a year...

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-A year.

-..with hard labour.

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Can you imagine? The magistrate would be sitting here looking at my

0:21:100:21:12

great-grandfather, wagging his finger

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as he sends him down for a year.

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-Blimey, that's a bit frightening, really.

-It is, isn't it?

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But, convicted rioter Edwin was about to be thrown a lifeline.

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So this is an editorial column that the newspaper wrote after Reeves

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was sent to prison and interestingly,

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it's almost taking pity on him.

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"We confess that we feel for these three men something akin to pity.

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"We would, if we could, have placed in the dock beside them others more

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"guilty than they."

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It's kind of basically saying that he was probably in the wrong place

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-at the wrong time and got mixed up in all of this...

-Yes...

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..when really there were other people more guilty than he.

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Yes, he paid a heavy price just for being where he was and getting

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-involved in it all.

-Yeah.

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In this, it appears the community felt Edwin

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had indeed paid a high price for getting mixed up in the riots.

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I think the town felt that because the riots had gone on for a lot

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longer than he was here, he was only in Guildford a short amount of time,

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-he got caught up at the end...

-Caught up...

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At the end of this.

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Edwin came out of prison in 1867, the same year he established what

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would become the family furniture shop.

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People have taken pity on him, he's come out,

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he's packed his family. "Right, OK, we're off."

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"Croydon here we come. We're going to go

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"and we're going to start something."

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The town of Guildford and what have you

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have given back to him the ability to be able to say,

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"OK, you've had a bit of a hard time and everything,

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"you made a few mistakes, now get on, start yourself again."

0:22:460:22:49

-Fascinating, isn't it?

-It's amazing, yeah.

0:22:490:22:51

Well, what a day it's been for Trevor digging into his past.

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I think he has found it fascinating, also quite overwhelming.

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You know, the memories of his own store burning down six years ago now

0:23:010:23:04

are still very raw. I was hoping that by going back

0:23:040:23:07

and finding out more about his great-great-grandfather

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and how he managed to turn his life from bad to good,

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it would reinforce that desire in Trevor

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to want to help someone else.

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We think we've found someone within his community whose

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story will really move him.

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Fatima Koroma was deeply affected by the riots of 2011 and vowed to do

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something to help her home town of Croydon get back on its feet.

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Along with hundreds of citizens around the capital,

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she opened her front door and descended onto the streets

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to fight back, armed with goodwill, brooms and elbow grease.

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Just as the looters and the rioters have been on a wrecking spree,

0:23:480:23:52

so these people have sought to put it right.

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They've been dubbed the Broom Army

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and they're at work across the capital.

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Fatima's dedication to her home town didn't stop there.

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The riots shone a light on the gaping social division

0:24:050:24:08

in the community. She wanted to help and set up a food bank.

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When the riots happened, it showed there was a real need.

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It showed there was a, you know, a real large group of marginalised

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people and food poverty was an actual problem

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that we didn't actually realise how big it was.

0:24:230:24:26

For the last six years, Fatima has devoted her life to establishing

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the food bank and helping others.

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Peanut butter is a big request.

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And chicken in white sauce.

0:24:350:24:37

I think Fatima genuinely cares about the people who come here and ask

0:24:370:24:41

Fatima for support and help,

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because I find that she genuinely has helped me.

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But it hasn't always been easy for her.

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She's had to get by with little in the way of income,

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at the same time as bringing up three children as a single mum.

0:24:520:24:55

My mum's been working so hard.

0:25:010:25:02

She started this in 2011 and she's just kept on striving to do her best

0:25:020:25:06

to just keep on doing what she's doing.

0:25:060:25:08

And she still hasn't stopped.

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I wash every day. I don't mind whose day it is.

0:25:090:25:12

Yes, she always works hard.

0:25:130:25:15

She's selfless. She only usually worries about everyone else

0:25:150:25:18

and sometimes forgets to think about herself.

0:25:180:25:20

You know, there are good people out there in the world and it's nice to

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know my mum's one of them.

0:25:230:25:25

I guess I just like doing stuff that helps people.

0:25:250:25:29

You, I just... Yeah, I just like doing what I do.

0:25:290:25:34

I enjoy making people happy.

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I enjoy seeing people happy, you know,

0:25:360:25:38

and I think that's why I continue doing it.

0:25:380:25:40

Fatima's selfless devotion to the community during and after the riots

0:25:410:25:45

should appeal to Trevor.

0:25:450:25:47

He wants to give back to someone locally and we think her story will

0:25:470:25:50

resonate with him.

0:25:500:25:52

Yeah, it's going to be a really interesting...

0:25:540:25:56

A really interesting chat with her.

0:25:560:25:59

We've all had a common experience so we're going to see how we can

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actually make things link together.

0:26:030:26:05

I'm looking forward to it.

0:26:050:26:07

Fatima's food bank is right in the heart of Croydon town centre,

0:26:070:26:10

very close to the House of Reeves.

0:26:100:26:12

-Morning!

-Good morning!

0:26:130:26:16

Despite being neighbours, Fatima and Trevor have never met.

0:26:160:26:20

Welcome to our little corner.

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It is a little corner, indeed.

0:26:230:26:25

She thinks we're making a programme about Croydon after the London riots

0:26:250:26:29

and is completely unaware that she could be in line

0:26:290:26:31

-for a generous gift.

-You're getting a lot of donations.

0:26:310:26:33

How do you...? You obviously don't fit it in, do you?

0:26:330:26:36

-No, we don't.

-Because you get overflowed.

0:26:360:26:38

But what is the wonderful thing about in here,

0:26:380:26:42

is we can have that much food one minute,

0:26:420:26:44

and the next thing we don't have nothing.

0:26:440:26:46

There's peaks when you get lots of people needing the food.

0:26:460:26:50

And then it just goes.

0:26:500:26:52

Impressed by Fatima's food bank,

0:26:520:26:54

Trevor wants to learn more about how that fateful night in 2011

0:26:540:26:58

encouraged her to reach out to the community.

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Did you have any idea something might be kicking off in Croydon?

0:27:010:27:04

Never, never. No sign.

0:27:040:27:06

I mean, we'd all heard about the young man in North London.

0:27:060:27:12

-Yeah.

-But to say it was going to bring a riot to Croydon, no.

0:27:120:27:17

I had no idea.

0:27:170:27:19

Trouble was spreading across the capital.

0:27:190:27:21

Fatima had gone shopping in Croydon town centre with her daughter,

0:27:210:27:24

who was only ten at the time.

0:27:240:27:27

She realised something was terribly wrong,

0:27:270:27:29

and fearing for the safety of her and her child,

0:27:290:27:31

got home as fast as she could.

0:27:310:27:33

As soon as she got indoors, Fatima turned on the TV.

0:27:330:27:37

-NEWS REPORTER:

-A massive blaze is burning in Croydon

0:27:390:27:41

in South London after a furniture store was set alight.

0:27:410:27:44

And then we started getting the report.

0:27:450:27:48

Yeah, that everything was going on in Croydon

0:27:480:27:51

down at Reeves' Corner and all that.

0:27:510:27:53

Yeah, that was scary. But there was that big flame.

0:27:530:27:56

And it was like you recognised where it was straightaway,

0:27:560:27:58

even before they'd said, "Oh, it's Reeves furniture shop."

0:27:580:28:01

So the next day when it had all sort of calmed down,

0:28:010:28:03

what was left of our shop was sitting there smouldering

0:28:030:28:06

and we decided it was time to do something.

0:28:060:28:09

There were the odd reports about clean-ups happening and my kids,

0:28:090:28:13

I was, like, "Look, this is what's going on."

0:28:130:28:15

And I think it was important for me to...

0:28:150:28:18

You know, to teach them that everyone's

0:28:180:28:20

got to, kind of, pull in and fix this.

0:28:200:28:23

Yeah, everyone's been hit like this, so let's sort it all out.

0:28:230:28:27

And they were scared. So I think it was a way of showing them,

0:28:270:28:32

"Look, there's nothing to fear.

0:28:320:28:33

"This happened and now we're just going to fix it all up.

0:28:330:28:36

"And we're just going to move on."

0:28:360:28:37

-Just get back and sort ourselves out, yeah.

-Yeah.

0:28:370:28:40

Like, everywhere else I've lived, I've never said,

0:28:400:28:42

"I've taken on ownership of that area as like a name."

0:28:420:28:45

And I feel like I'm a proud Croydonian.

0:28:450:28:48

While Trevor considers if Fatima is the right person to help and how,

0:28:510:28:55

I'm off to meet Fatima's best friend, Arlene,

0:28:550:28:57

to find out a bit more myself.

0:28:570:29:00

I'm desperate to know, what's she really like?

0:29:000:29:03

Fatima's so caring.

0:29:030:29:05

I feel that she's a great asset to the community.

0:29:050:29:09

It seems that she never seems to have any time for herself.

0:29:090:29:12

You know, she's got three kids, and as you say,

0:29:120:29:14

always helping in the community.

0:29:140:29:15

I feel that's down to her being selfless

0:29:150:29:18

and to know that she will go beyond for anybody.

0:29:180:29:24

And above and beyond she went.

0:29:240:29:27

In the aftermath of the riots,

0:29:270:29:29

Fatima realised she could make a difference

0:29:290:29:31

to hundreds of people's lives with her food bank.

0:29:310:29:33

-After the riots, a lot of money was pumped into the area as well.

-Yeah.

0:29:340:29:38

That money allowed for certain other developments and the knock-on

0:29:380:29:43

effects where people like myself, you know,

0:29:430:29:46

the voluntary sector organisations,

0:29:460:29:48

being able to do the work that they needed to do.

0:29:480:29:52

After five years of running the service,

0:29:520:29:54

Fatima wanted to do more for the people using the food bank -

0:29:540:29:58

by helping them find jobs,

0:29:580:30:00

giving advice with applications and interviews.

0:30:000:30:03

So I concentrate on the low skill stuff.

0:30:030:30:05

We're always going to need cleaners and we're always going to need,

0:30:050:30:08

you know, the catering staff.

0:30:080:30:09

-We'll always need people to move furniture around.

-Exactly!

0:30:090:30:12

So that's what we're focusing on.

0:30:120:30:14

Fatima has been recognised for her work,

0:30:150:30:18

having won Croydon's Civic and Guardian's Champion awards

0:30:180:30:21

for her dedication to the community.

0:30:210:30:24

You know, I always wanted to do something that was giving.

0:30:240:30:27

I did kind of get a bit of a food bank lady label,

0:30:270:30:30

-but at the same time, it's not a bad label.

-Yeah.

0:30:300:30:33

Because at the end of the day, someone's got to do it

0:30:330:30:36

and the people that come in here need that support.

0:30:360:30:39

You have a lot of fingers in a lot of pies.

0:30:390:30:41

Well, that must divert an awful lot of your attention away

0:30:410:30:44

from your family and everything.

0:30:440:30:46

Well, no, because I just drag them in!

0:30:460:30:48

With Trevor and Fatima getting along so well,

0:30:510:30:53

it's time to let best friend Arlene in on our secret -

0:30:530:30:57

that Fatima might be in line for a gift.

0:30:570:31:00

You know she thinks we're making a programme about the community here

0:31:000:31:03

in Croydon after the riots.

0:31:030:31:05

Well, it's not the full story, because actually the show is called,

0:31:050:31:08

Going Back, Giving Back.

0:31:080:31:09

And we're going to be surprising her.

0:31:090:31:12

Trevor, who she's meeting, he lost his store in the riots,

0:31:120:31:16

-it burnt down.

-OK.

0:31:160:31:18

But he's been thinking a lot about that day and he's decided that he

0:31:180:31:21

wants to help and give something back to somebody in the community,

0:31:210:31:25

-and that's where your friend comes in.

-OK, that's lovely.

0:31:250:31:28

How do you think Trevor will be able to help her?

0:31:280:31:30

Putting something in towards the centre

0:31:300:31:33

and maybe something at home?

0:31:330:31:35

She definitely deserves kind of me-time, doesn't she?

0:31:350:31:38

Yeah, definitely. She works so hard.

0:31:380:31:41

So it would be good if she could get something back.

0:31:410:31:43

What will her reaction be like when we surprise her?

0:31:430:31:46

She will be nervous but excited at the same time.

0:31:460:31:49

-Really?

-Yeah.

-Is she going to scream?

-Most probably.

0:31:490:31:53

Good!

0:31:530:31:55

-Can you keep it a secret?

-Yes, I will.

-Good.

0:31:550:31:57

Arlene is clearly very proud of her friend Fatima,

0:32:000:32:03

and how could she not be?

0:32:030:32:05

You know, it's incredible to hear just how selfless she is,

0:32:050:32:07

devoting her whole life to improving other people's lives.

0:32:070:32:11

I just hope that Trevor is as bowled over by her generosity

0:32:110:32:14

as I've been and I really hope we can pull off this surprise.

0:32:140:32:17

Trevor has been inspired by Fatima who was so selfless in her desire

0:32:220:32:26

to help people like him after the riots.

0:32:260:32:29

But will he feel compelled to give something back to her?

0:32:290:32:32

To help him make this vital decision,

0:32:320:32:35

he's called a family conference with his dad and brother.

0:32:350:32:38

I had a conversation with a lady called Fatima.

0:32:400:32:44

She did a lot of work after the riots.

0:32:440:32:47

She was out with her kids, sweeping up the day afterwards.

0:32:470:32:50

So she has a direct involvement with our shared experience there,

0:32:500:32:55

but not only that, it would appear that she's initiated a food bank.

0:32:550:32:58

She's listened to people that come through the door,

0:32:580:33:02

and then she's actually pushing back out into the community by trying

0:33:020:33:05

to help these people.

0:33:050:33:06

She's finding them interviews, she's finding them job experience.

0:33:060:33:11

It just seems to me that she worked so hard

0:33:110:33:13

and she has been working very hard,

0:33:130:33:15

she's probably the best recipient I can think of.

0:33:150:33:18

Since meeting Fatima, Trevor has been trying to find out

0:33:180:33:20

what might help her centre and help her personally.

0:33:200:33:23

She also seems to have a...

0:33:250:33:28

Not enough time for herself.

0:33:280:33:30

I know through the grapevine,

0:33:300:33:32

I've heard that she's having some work done,

0:33:320:33:35

or people coming to do stuff for her,

0:33:350:33:37

so I think we might be able to help her.

0:33:370:33:40

I can't think of anybody better.

0:33:400:33:42

She does such a tremendous job for all the community.

0:33:420:33:46

And all the things you've just now said,

0:33:460:33:47

that I think she's an ideal choice.

0:33:470:33:49

-What do you think, Graham?

-Yeah, you've done all right there,

0:33:490:33:52

I'll give you that. You've done all right there.

0:33:520:33:53

-You get my vote, well done, Trevor.

-OK.

0:33:530:33:56

The family think Fatima is a worthy recipient.

0:33:560:33:58

Now it's down to Trevor to decide how he can make a difference

0:34:000:34:03

to her life.

0:34:030:34:05

Well, it's been a week since I saw Trevor.

0:34:050:34:07

I'm really keen to find out how his meeting with Fatima went.

0:34:070:34:10

Hearing from Arlene, there's no doubt that Fatima

0:34:100:34:12

is an inspirational person, keen to help out with every aspect

0:34:120:34:16

of the community, as well as bringing up her three children.

0:34:160:34:19

She could really benefit from Trevor's help.

0:34:190:34:22

I hope her story's moved him and that he feels

0:34:220:34:24

that she's the right person to give back to.

0:34:240:34:26

Trevor's waiting for me at a cafe just around the corner from where

0:34:290:34:31

Fatima is hard at work.

0:34:310:34:33

It's time to find out what he's decided to do.

0:34:330:34:36

-So, you've met up with Fatima?

-Yes. Yes, I have.

0:34:390:34:42

She's got three children and yet she just seems

0:34:420:34:45

to give of herself constantly.

0:34:450:34:46

I don't know where she finds the time to do it, I honestly don't.

0:34:460:34:50

She seems to really, really care about this community.

0:34:500:34:53

She does. She's got a history behind her that seems to, sort of,

0:34:530:34:57

make her want to do it. She's very driven.

0:34:570:34:59

How she sort of manages to maintain a home

0:34:590:35:01

with the three children, I don't know.

0:35:010:35:04

You know, she's out the night after the riots cleaning up

0:35:040:35:07

with her kids and things. It's selfless.

0:35:070:35:10

The million-dollar question, I suppose,

0:35:100:35:11

-are you going to be able to help her?

-We'd like to think so.

0:35:110:35:15

I had a meeting with my brother and my father.

0:35:150:35:17

What we've come up with is to be able to provide a week's work

0:35:170:35:22

for a builder/decorator to help her in her home,

0:35:220:35:25

and also we're going to give her some credit for furniture

0:35:250:35:28

which she can come and look at in our store.

0:35:280:35:31

You know, we have the beds, we have the sofas,

0:35:310:35:33

so that she can just make her home a little bit more comfortable for

0:35:330:35:37

-her and her kids.

-Brilliant.

0:35:370:35:38

And if she wants to take it up, a lot of the people that she does see

0:35:380:35:42

and she's trying to help, are trying to go to interviews,

0:35:420:35:45

so I said that I will dedicate some of my time

0:35:450:35:47

just to sit down with them and say,

0:35:470:35:49

"When you go to an interview, and you are in front of someone

0:35:490:35:52

"like me, try and behave like this."

0:35:520:35:54

Give a little bit of impetus and push towards helping them.

0:35:540:35:57

That's really wonderful. That's very, very kind of you.

0:35:570:36:00

Have you put all of your thoughts down in a letter?

0:36:000:36:02

-I have.

-Have you got it with you?

-I have.

0:36:020:36:03

Because I think we should go and surprise her, don't you?

0:36:030:36:06

-How are you feeling about this?

-I don't know if I'll get a word in edgeways!

0:36:060:36:09

-But let's go and see what we can do.

-Let's try. Come on, let's go.

0:36:090:36:12

What a journey it's been for Trevor,

0:36:120:36:14

but now is the moment that will make it all worth it -

0:36:140:36:17

telling Fatima what we've really been up to

0:36:170:36:20

and presenting her with a gift

0:36:200:36:21

that will hopefully make a huge difference to her.

0:36:210:36:23

We're on the way to the food bank to surprise her.

0:36:270:36:30

-How are you feeling now?

-A bit excited.

-Yeah.

0:36:300:36:33

A bit apprehensive, a bit, sort of...

0:36:330:36:35

It's out of my comfort zone, really.

0:36:350:36:37

-Yeah.

-So, you know...

-It's amazing, though, isn't it?

0:36:370:36:40

She's exactly what you were looking for, really.

0:36:400:36:42

It really resounds with us,

0:36:420:36:43

the things that she's done with the community.

0:36:430:36:46

And right on cue,

0:36:460:36:47

Arlene's pitched up with a group of Fatima's friends and colleagues

0:36:470:36:51

to make this even more of a surprise.

0:36:510:36:54

So, Fatima's got no idea that we're doing this.

0:36:540:36:57

How do you think she will react?

0:36:570:36:59

-She'll be surprised.

-Surprised!

0:36:590:37:00

Yeah? Right, shall we go and do it?

0:37:000:37:02

WHISPERS: We've got to be really quiet, OK?

0:37:020:37:04

OK, let's go.

0:37:040:37:07

We have told Fatima we need to film her in her office.

0:37:070:37:10

She has no idea what's really going on.

0:37:100:37:12

-DOORBELL RINGS

-I didn't even know I had a bell!

0:37:160:37:19

I didn't. Oh, my days.

0:37:210:37:23

Oh, my days.

0:37:240:37:26

Why's there so many people outside?

0:37:260:37:30

Why are there are so many people outside?

0:37:300:37:34

DOORBELL RINGS

0:37:340:37:35

I've got to go and get the door.

0:37:350:37:36

Why are there so many of you outside?!

0:37:420:37:44

Hi, Fatima. Come here.

0:37:460:37:48

-Now, listen...

-What?

0:37:480:37:50

Where do I know you from?

0:37:510:37:54

I couldn't possibly say!

0:37:540:37:55

I'm Aled... Aled Jones from the BBC.

0:37:550:37:58

Oh, my gosh! The little singer man!

0:37:580:38:00

Yeah, the little singer man has grown-up.

0:38:010:38:04

But, now, listen, you thought we were making a programme

0:38:040:38:07

about the London riots.

0:38:070:38:09

That's not the full story, OK?

0:38:090:38:12

I'm from a programme called Going Back, Giving Back.

0:38:120:38:15

Trevor, what do you want to say?

0:38:150:38:17

We had a lovely chat the other day and everything that you said

0:38:170:38:20

resounded so much with us as a family,

0:38:200:38:23

and me specifically.

0:38:230:38:25

Because what you do and what you give back to the community

0:38:250:38:28

through the people that come to see you,

0:38:280:38:30

we thought that we would offer you something just to try and make

0:38:300:38:32

some thing's a little bit better for you.

0:38:320:38:34

-So, you've got a letter, haven't you?

-I have a letter here.

0:38:340:38:36

-Will you read this out loud for us?

-OK.

-You have to...

0:38:360:38:39

Well, you don't have to,

0:38:390:38:41

but it would be very nice if you could read that out.

0:38:410:38:43

I am snotty nosed and everything.

0:38:430:38:45

-Oh, don't worry about that.

-No.

-And this is from you?

-Yes.

-OK.

0:38:450:38:48

"On the night of the riots, the destruction of our building

0:38:480:38:51

"meant that the community was hit by the loss

0:38:510:38:54

"of an iconic structure.

0:38:540:38:56

"You got out the next day to clear up, kids in tow,

0:38:560:38:59

"fearless and defiant. You have gone much further,

0:38:590:39:02

"not only did you initiate the food bank..."

0:39:020:39:04

I've got water in my eyes!

0:39:040:39:06

"..but you had foresight to realise that if people have come for food,

0:39:060:39:11

"there must be underlying reasons.

0:39:110:39:13

"How you find the time for Fatima herself, I just don't know,

0:39:130:39:17

"but you do. It's clear it's not easy for you personally."

0:39:170:39:21

Thank you.

0:39:210:39:22

"So, we, as the Reeves family,

0:39:220:39:25

"would like to give something back to you."

0:39:250:39:28

"We know you need some work at home,

0:39:280:39:30

"so we're offering to pay for a week's work

0:39:300:39:33

"by our decorator and handyman to help in your home."

0:39:330:39:36

Woohoo! "And also 500 credit from our store for furniture to

0:39:360:39:40

"make your home more comfortable.

0:39:400:39:43

"Finally, I would like to donate some of my time

0:39:430:39:45

"to guide your clients with their interview preparation.

0:39:450:39:48

"You are truly an inspiration to so many

0:39:480:39:51

"and we would really hope you will take

0:39:510:39:53

"and enjoy our offers with..."

0:39:530:39:55

Oh, gosh, I can't even read this.

0:39:550:39:57

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:39:570:39:58

Thank you.

0:39:580:40:00

Thank you so much.

0:40:000:40:02

Oh, wow! I am just, like, really...

0:40:020:40:05

-What does this mean to you?

-Everything.

0:40:060:40:09

Everything. These people, being here...

0:40:090:40:12

Like, she is so sneaky.

0:40:120:40:14

Thank you so much, all of you.

0:40:170:40:19

Seriously, I'm just so chuffed.

0:40:190:40:21

I'm just like...

0:40:210:40:23

I'm going to be grinning all day now.

0:40:230:40:25

Apparently this is the first time ever she's been speechless.

0:40:250:40:28

-You're right, you're correct. Yes.

-Thanks.

0:40:280:40:32

I'm really, really happy.

0:40:320:40:33

Her reaction to Aled was just brilliant.

0:40:330:40:35

It was worth all the effort.

0:40:350:40:37

You know, it was a difficult time for us

0:40:370:40:39

during those riots and then to, sort of, go through it all and to

0:40:390:40:42

find someone who's doing...

0:40:420:40:43

Giving back so much to everybody else, we're...

0:40:430:40:46

You know, we're all really happy.

0:40:460:40:47

-Do you know what...?

-We'll look after you.

-My bedroom's getting done, I'll tell you that.

0:40:470:40:51

So what people don't know, I haven't done my bedroom.

0:40:510:40:53

I have had every excuse not to do my bedroom

0:40:530:40:56

because I started a new project, and I've just got a mattress.

0:40:560:41:00

And my clothes are just...

0:41:000:41:01

So, yeah, I'm going to do my bedroom.

0:41:010:41:03

-Good! Good.

-I'm going to do my bedroom.

0:41:030:41:06

-Thank you so much.

-You're welcome. You're more than welcome.

0:41:060:41:09

I really want a big hug, Trevor. Thank you so much.

0:41:090:41:11

Thank you. And then...

0:41:110:41:13

-He's a celebrity.

-Come on!

0:41:130:41:14

That's better than a council award, you know?

0:41:140:41:17

That's, like... That's really important

0:41:170:41:19

because he's our neighbour and the fact that he's OK with it,

0:41:190:41:23

and he wants to help them as well in his own way.

0:41:230:41:25

She was more excited about the opportunity that Trevor's

0:41:270:41:30

given for the mentoring of the people that she's working with.

0:41:300:41:33

But it's really nice that she's got something for herself as well.

0:41:330:41:36

It was excellent. I think she'll really enjoy this,

0:41:360:41:39

and she'll benefit from it and it's good that

0:41:390:41:41

she's getting back something from the community,

0:41:410:41:44

as she's always putting so much in.

0:41:440:41:46

We're going to love you and leave you.

0:41:460:41:48

So you linger with your friends who have been so sneaky.

0:41:480:41:51

-And you deserve it.

-Thank you.

0:41:510:41:53

-Keep doing what you're doing.

-Thank you very much.

0:41:530:41:55

-Come on, Trevor, let's go.

-All right, thank you!

0:41:550:41:59

Sometimes you just think people just don't notice it, you know,

0:42:000:42:03

so this is just excellent.

0:42:030:42:04

This is really... It's like a big kick to keep on doing

0:42:040:42:07

what we're doing and improving what we're doing.

0:42:070:42:11

And dotting our Is and crossing our Ts,

0:42:110:42:13

because it means something to the people

0:42:130:42:15

that we're doing it for, if anything,

0:42:150:42:17

so, yeah, I'm really, really chuffed.

0:42:170:42:19

Well, this really has been an extraordinary journey

0:42:220:42:25

from that devastating night of rioting back in 2011

0:42:250:42:28

when Trevor saw his livelihood burned to the ground,

0:42:280:42:31

to venturing into Trevor's family's hidden past, to now,

0:42:310:42:35

where he's been motivated to give something back.

0:42:350:42:38

And no-one really deserves it more than Fatima.

0:42:380:42:40

She's done so much for the people of Croydon

0:42:400:42:43

and now someone's done something nice for her.

0:42:430:42:46

Wonderful!

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