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Roald Dahl is one of the greatest children's writers of all time. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:10 | |
His books are loved by tens of millions of young readers | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
the world over. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
"Then she started swinging her round and round her head, | 0:00:15 | 0:00:19 | |
"faster and faster, and Amanda was screaming blue murder, | 0:00:19 | 0:00:23 | |
"and the Trunchbull was yelling, | 0:00:23 | 0:00:25 | |
"'I'll give you pigtails, you little rat.'" | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
They've been made into West End musicals | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
and Hollywood films. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
Oh, my. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:35 | |
Less well-known is where Roald Dahl came from. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:40 | |
He was Welsh, | 0:00:40 | 0:00:41 | |
born and raised in Cardiff in the 1910s and '20s, | 0:00:41 | 0:00:46 | |
What happened during those early years in Wales helped to shape | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
both his life and his books. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
"I'm watching you, | 0:00:55 | 0:00:57 | |
"so keep your thieving fingers off them chocolates. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
"Either you forks out or you gets out." | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
This is an untold Roald Dahl story | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
of the triumphs and tragedies of his own Welsh childhood. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:13 | |
Look around, and it's easy enough to find Roald Dahl's name in Cardiff | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
today. He has public spaces named after him, shows and exhibitions, | 0:01:42 | 0:01:48 | |
and plaques in his honour. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
But uncovering the story of Roald Dahl's Welsh childhood | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
means digging a little deeper. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
Our tale begins a century ago in Llandaff, | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
on the genteel fringes of Cardiff. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
Here, in the upstairs room of a fine house, a baby boy was born. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:16 | |
BABY CRIES | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
He was named Roald, unusual for a Welsh child. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:26 | |
But his parents, Sofie Magdalene and Harald Dahl, were both Norwegian, | 0:02:26 | 0:02:32 | |
and rapidly growing rich in the thriving Welsh capital. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:37 | |
Industrial Cardiff was a sort of Klondyke. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:39 | |
There was a boom going on. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
Cardiff, the greatest coal-exporting port in the world - | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
there was money to be made here. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
Harald Dahl set himself up a supply business, | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
providing everything that a ship pulling into Cardiff needed. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
So he provided that ship with the coal for its fuel, | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
with its supplies, with its food for its next voyage, | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
with its replacement ropes, with its pulleys, | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
with its bits and pieces. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:05 | |
That's the business, a one-stop shop. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
It was a very progressive idea. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
Harald Dahl's offices were in Cardiff's bustling docks. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
From his window, he could see the Norwegian Church, | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
the social and religious hub of the city's | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
prospering Norwegian community. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
It was here, in October 1916, that Roald Dahl was christened. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:33 | |
Before too long, Harald's growing wealth, | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
along with his growing family, | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
were calling for a house somewhat larger than the one in Llandaff, | 0:03:43 | 0:03:48 | |
and so they moved to rural Radyr, six miles north of Cardiff, | 0:03:48 | 0:03:53 | |
and a home worthy of a fairy tale. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
"I remember it as a mighty house, with turrets on its roof, | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
"and with majestic lawns and terraces around it. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
"There were many acres of farm and woodland, | 0:04:12 | 0:04:16 | |
"and a number of cottages for the staff. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
"Very soon, the meadows were full of milking cows, | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
"and the sties were full of pigs, | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
"and the chicken run was full of chickens. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
"There were several massive shire horses | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
"for pulling the ploughs and the hay wagons. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
"And there was a ploughman and a cowman and a couple of gardeners | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
"and all manner of servants in the house itself." | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
I think Ty-Mynydd was extraordinarily important, | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
I think it was the kind of paradise... I mean, | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
it was where he had his first memories, | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
he grew up in this, for him, | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
this utterly idyllic world of fields and pastures and animals | 0:04:58 | 0:05:03 | |
and the freedom to roam, and a sense, I think, that, you know, | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
the world was a very beautiful place. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
He and his sisters were able to walk through the fields. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
They all talked with enormous fondness and nostalgia | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
about this place, and it meant a great deal to them. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
What life should be | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
is kind of embodied in that building. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
Only echoes remain today of Ty-Mynydd, | 0:05:24 | 0:05:28 | |
the lodge, the curve of its drive, | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
and some of its woodland. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
But the spell the place cast on Roald Dahl never faded. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:38 | |
He always chose to live in the countryside. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
And books like Danny, The Champion Of The World | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
and Matilda are set in blissful, rural worlds. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:49 | |
There's often this sense that, | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
within the children's texts, | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
that they want to return to some | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
idyllic part of the countryside, | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
an idyllic time in the past. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
In Matilda, Matilda wants to escape, | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
and when she escapes, she escapes to something much more simple. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:07 | |
She escapes to Miss Honey, | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
and she does it going to Miss Honey's cottage, | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
which is in the countryside. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
And it goes back... They talk about poetry as they go. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
It's done like a fairy tale. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
"Matilda saw a narrow dirt-path | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
"leading to a tiny red-brick cottage. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
"The cottage was so small it looked more like a doll's house | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
"than a human dwelling. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
"On either side of the path there was a wilderness | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
"of nettles and blackberry thorns and long brown grass. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
"An enormous oak tree stood overshadowing the cottage, | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
"its massive spreading branches seemed to be | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
"enfolding and embracing the tiny building, | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
"and perhaps hiding it as well from the rest of the world. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
"Miss Honey, with one hand on the gate, which hadn't yet opened, | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
"turned to Matilda and said, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
"'A poet called Dylan Thomas once wrote some lines | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
"'that I think of every time I walk up this path.' | 0:07:12 | 0:07:16 | |
"Matilda waited, and Miss Honey, in a rather wonderful, slow voice, | 0:07:16 | 0:07:22 | |
"began reciting the poem." | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
At Ty-Mynydd, the young Roald Dahl | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
was living in a real-life rural paradise. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:35 | |
But that childhood world was about to be shattered. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
Deep one winter, Roald's elder sister, Astri, | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
died of a burst appendix. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
Just seven weeks later, his father, Harald, died, too - | 0:07:47 | 0:07:52 | |
some said of a broken heart. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:53 | |
He was laid to rest in the local churchyard, | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
the Celtic pattern on his headstone | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
reflecting the roots he had put down in Wales. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
With her husband dead, Roald's mother, Sofie Magdalene, | 0:08:07 | 0:08:11 | |
decided it was time for more practical living arrangements. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
The Dahls were moving house. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
Their new home was back in Llandaff, | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
an attractive urban villa called Cumberland Lodge. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
This would be the scene of adventures worthy of Roald Dahl's own books, | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
and the realm of Sofie Magdalene. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
She was the biggest influence on his life. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
She was intrepid, | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
and I think that's what he really admired about her - | 0:08:47 | 0:08:52 | |
that she... Fear didn't come. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:57 | |
You know, she'd take them out on a boat | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
without lifeboats in big, stormy weather. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
She was a strong... | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
Oh, I wish I'd met her! Wonderful woman. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
They were being raised, most of the time, as, you know, | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
by a single mother. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:14 | |
Very formidable, strong single mother | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
who was quite a personality in her own right. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
They really didn't conform to the normal middle-class values of | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
the time, you know, where people were polite and behaved themselves. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
Roald's school friends, several of whom I spoke to | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
when they were alive, you know, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
told me that going to stay at the Dahls' | 0:09:30 | 0:09:31 | |
was basically like going to a madhouse where, you know, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:35 | |
where anything went. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:36 | |
Roald Dahl's children's books are famous | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
for their irreverent, mischievous spirit. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
And at Cumberland Lodge in the 1920s, | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
the young Roald was up to plenty of hijinks of his own. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
I think, without doubt, Roald was a mischief-maker. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
I think he was an inventive, unusual mischief-maker. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
I mean, he talks about constructing this elaborate chariot | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
out of Meccano that would douse passers-by with water | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
cos it ran down on a wire, which he could then release and drench people | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
who were walking their dogs at the end of the garden. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
GIRL SCREAMS | 0:10:12 | 0:10:13 | |
DOG BARKS | 0:10:13 | 0:10:15 | |
And the same way, you know, his sisters would say | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
that he would sometimes, you know, | 0:10:17 | 0:10:18 | |
would send them up a tree, padded up with cushions, | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
and fire air gun at them, just to see how far the pellets | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
went into the cushions. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:25 | |
None of the sisters seemed to have been remotely frightened | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
by doing this - they just took it for granted that | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
that's the kind of thing young kids did. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
But a big change was on the way for the young Roald Dahl. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
At the age of seven, | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
his mother enrolled him at the nearby Cathedral School in Llandaff. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
It was to be his first taste of a regimented world, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
far removed from the free spirits of home. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
The Cathedral School, when Roald Dahl was a pupil, | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
was a preparatory or prep school. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
It never held more than about 50 or 60 boys | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
and most of them were boarders. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
There was a big classroom | 0:11:06 | 0:11:07 | |
they called big school, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:09 | |
with all the honours boards | 0:11:09 | 0:11:10 | |
on the wall, described... | 0:11:10 | 0:11:11 | |
always described as a dusty classroom for some reason and there | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
were other classrooms round the back and a gym, | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
which was very popular, and some fives courts. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
And this, erm... | 0:11:21 | 0:11:22 | |
this is a hat that belonged to one of Roald Dahl's contemporaries | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
in the school, | 0:11:25 | 0:11:26 | |
so this is what Road Dahl would have worn. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
When they went to and from school, | 0:11:29 | 0:11:30 | |
they would have passed the war memorial and they were expected to | 0:11:30 | 0:11:35 | |
raise their hats or their caps when they passed | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
it woe betide any boy who didn't. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
So this is what he would have had to raise in respect to the war dead. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:44 | |
Roald Dahl wrote about his Llandaff school days | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
in his colourful childhood memoir, Boy. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
His most vivid memory was of a remarkable adventure | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
that wouldn't be out of place in his own children's books. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
He even gave it a name - The Great Mouse Plot. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:02 | |
DOOR OPENS | 0:12:02 | 0:12:03 | |
BELL RINGS | 0:12:03 | 0:12:04 | |
We're standing here outside the centrepiece of The Great Mouse Plot. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:15 | |
This is not, in fact, the Great Wall Chinese takeaway, | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
but in Roald's day, | 0:12:19 | 0:12:20 | |
this was Mrs Pratchett's sweetshop and these are the windows | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
against which the young Roald would press his nose, | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
looking at the boiled wonders and gobstoppers in jars beyond. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:32 | |
DOOR OPENS | 0:12:32 | 0:12:33 | |
BELL RINGS | 0:12:33 | 0:12:34 | |
"The sweetshop in Llandaff in the year 1923 | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
"was the very centre of our lives. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
"To us, it was what a bar is to a drunk, or a church is to a bishop. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:48 | |
"Without it, there would have been little to live for, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
"but it had one terrible drawback, this sweetshop - | 0:12:51 | 0:12:56 | |
"the woman who owned it was a horror! | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
"We hated her and we had good reason for doing so. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:04 | |
"Her name was Mrs Pratchett. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
"She was a small, skinny, old hag | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
"with a moustache on her upper lip and a mouth as sour | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
"as a green gooseberry. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
"She never smiled, | 0:13:14 | 0:13:16 | |
"she never welcomed us when we went in, | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
"and the only times she spoke were when she said things like, | 0:13:19 | 0:13:23 | |
"'I'm watching you, | 0:13:23 | 0:13:24 | |
"'so keep your thieving fingers off them chocolates!' | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
"or, 'I don't want you in here just to look around. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
"'Either you forks out or you gets out.'" | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
The young Roald and his pals dream of getting their own back | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
on the loathsome Mrs Pratchett. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
Then, one day, they find a dead mouse and Roald hatches a plan. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:49 | |
They will give the old woman the fright of her life | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
by putting the mouse in a jar of her sweets. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
"Thwaites handed me the mouse. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
"'I'm putting it in the gobstoppers,' I said. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
"'The gobstoppers are never behind the counter.' | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
"Thus, everything was arranged. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
"We were strutting as we entered the shop. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
"We were the victors now and Mrs Pratchett was the victim. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:17 | |
"She stood behind the counter and her small malignant pig eyes | 0:14:18 | 0:14:23 | |
"watched us suspiciously as we came forward. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
"'One Sherbert Sucker, please,' Thwaites said, | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
"holding out his penny. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:32 | |
"When I saw Mrs Pratchett turn her head away for a couple of seconds, | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
"I lifted the heavy glass lid off the gobstopper jar | 0:14:37 | 0:14:42 | |
"and dropped the mouse in. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
"My heart was thumping like mad and my hands had gone all sweaty. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:51 | |
"As soon as we were outside, we broke into a run. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:56 | |
"I felt like a hero! | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
"I WAS a hero!" | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
The boys' triumph is short-lived, though. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
The following day, Mrs Pratchett is at the Cathedral School. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:11 | |
She points out the miscreants to the headmaster | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
and they are ordered to his dreaded study. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
And it ends with him, erm... | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
It's this rather lurid description of him being caned by the... | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
all the boys responsible for The Great Mouse Plot being caned by the | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
headmaster with the evil Mrs Pratchett looking on | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
like a sort of witch from the wings and urging the headmaster | 0:15:31 | 0:15:36 | |
to beat the boys harder and harder. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
CACKLING | 0:15:38 | 0:15:39 | |
It's very, very typically Roald Dahl, that scene. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
Roald Dahl seems never to have forgotten the punishment | 0:15:45 | 0:15:49 | |
meted out to him. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
In books like Matilda, school is at best a dubious place - | 0:15:51 | 0:15:56 | |
at worst, downright cruel. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
I mean, when you're talking about the nastiness | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
and the cruelty of adults to children, | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
I'm immediately reminded of Miss Trunchbull - | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
huge, domineering and little tiny Matilda | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
being in the power of someone cruel, nasty, stupid. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
And I think he taps into that brilliantly. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
It's not only that he remembers what it's like to be a child, | 0:16:17 | 0:16:21 | |
but that he is, again, stalwart in the defence of children, | 0:16:21 | 0:16:26 | |
and what he's saying to children is, "You CAN stand up to them. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:31 | |
"You CAN defeat these evil people. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
"Just because they're bigger than you, | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
"they are not smarter, they are not wiser. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
"Use your brains, hold yourself together. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
"They will be defeated." | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
In childhood, Roald Dahl had his own real-life champion | 0:16:44 | 0:16:49 | |
in the shape of his mother. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:50 | |
When Sofie Magdalene discovered that her son had been beaten at school, | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
she stormed to the house of the headmaster | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
and gave him a piece of her mind. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:02 | |
She was an extraordinary woman, ahead of her time - | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
bold, well-read and with a wicked sense of humour. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
And although Roald's father was now dead, | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
he also found at home an unlikely male role model. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
"The gardener that my mother engaged to look after everything outdoors | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
"was a short, broad-shouldered, middle-aged Welshman | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
"with a pale brown moustache, whose name was Jones. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
"But, to us children, he very soon became known as Joss Spivvis. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:38 | |
"I adored him. I worshipped him. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
"I used to follow him around and watch him at his work | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
"and listen to him talk. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
"Endless stories about his young days, Joss would tell me, | 0:17:47 | 0:17:51 | |
"as he dug the kitchen garden or weeded the flowerbed. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
"And if it was raining, we would be in the potting shed | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
"or in the greenhouse, or in the harness room. | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
"He had the Welshman's love of speech and song | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
"and when he described something to me, | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
"his flowery sentences would hold me enthralled. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:09 | |
"One of my most endearing memories of early childhood | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
"was my friendship with Joss Spivvis." | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
Roald's father Harald had been a keen gardener. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
Now Joss the gardener was becoming a father figure to the boy. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:32 | |
He even took Roald to watch Cardiff City play football, | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
the club flying high in the First Division. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:41 | |
CROWD CHEERS | 0:18:41 | 0:18:42 | |
But there was another, starker side of Welsh life | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
that Joss revealed to the well-to-do Llandaff boy... | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
..because the Dahls' gardener was a former Rhondda miner. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
"'Five o'clock in the morning, six days a week, | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
"'we reported for work at the pithead,' Joss said, | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
"'and I was always shivering, shivering, shivering. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
"'You don't half shiver at five in the morning | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
"'when you're young and skinny. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
"'Then into the cage we all went | 0:19:11 | 0:19:12 | |
"'and when they let go the winding gear, | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
"'we all dropped like a stone | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
"'into the black, black hole for miles and miles and it fell so fast, | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
"'your feet left the floor and your stomach came up into your throat, | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
"'and every time I went down, | 0:19:24 | 0:19:25 | |
"'I thought the cable had broken and we were going to go right on | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
"'falling until we came to the very centre of the Earth, | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
"'where everything was white-hot, boiling lava.'" | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
Many years later, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:40 | |
Roald Dahl seemed to recall Joss Spivvis' words when he came to write | 0:19:40 | 0:19:45 | |
one of his best-loved children's books. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:47 | |
In Charlie And The Chocolate Factory, and in its sequel, | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
Charlie And The Great Glass Elevator, | 0:19:51 | 0:19:52 | |
those wonderful descriptions of terror, | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
of the elevator | 0:19:55 | 0:19:56 | |
in both those novels. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
Look carefully enough, | 0:19:58 | 0:19:59 | |
and you realise that his description | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
of the sudden drop of the elevator in | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
Charlie And The Chocolate Factory is almost exactly the description | 0:20:04 | 0:20:08 | |
you get of Joss Spivvis' first day in the mine. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
So at the heart of Charlie And The Chocolate Factory, | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
you have the experience, | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
the recalled experience of a Rhondda miner as a young child, | 0:20:16 | 0:20:20 | |
the terror of that boy dropping into the shaft of a Rhondda mine. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:25 | |
That, I think, is non-negotiable. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
The descriptions tally almost exactly. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
Back in 1925, | 0:20:36 | 0:20:38 | |
the young Roald Dahl's time with Joss Spivvis was drawing to a close. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:43 | |
In line with her late husband's wishes, | 0:20:43 | 0:20:45 | |
Sofie Magdalene had decided to send her son | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
to an English boarding school. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
And so, in September, the nine-year-old Roald | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
boarded a paddle steamer bound for a strange new world | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
across the Bristol Channel. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
His destination was St Peter's School in Weston-super-Mare - | 0:21:02 | 0:21:07 | |
a place he later described as "a private lunatic asylum". | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
The real trauma was being taken away from that loving family environment, | 0:21:13 | 0:21:18 | |
you know, with this very rock-like strong mother | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
and being hurled into a world that was entirely male, | 0:21:22 | 0:21:26 | |
where there were all these arbitrary rules and regulations and orders and | 0:21:26 | 0:21:31 | |
things to do and things not to do - | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
you know, his own household, I think, | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
was very free and easy by comparison and I think he found that | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
truly traumatic and hard to adjust to and, you know, | 0:21:38 | 0:21:43 | |
when he writes about how unhappy he was there, | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
I'm absolutely certain that's true. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:47 | |
In the freezing dormitory of St Peter's, | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
the young Roald would align himself in bed so that he could sleep facing | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
Wales, the distant land he could see far away across the water | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
of the Bristol Channel. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
When Roald Dahl came to write his first children's book, | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
James And The Giant Peach, he seemed to recall the sadness of these days. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:14 | |
"Poor James, carrying nothing but a small suitcase containing a pair of | 0:22:16 | 0:22:21 | |
"pyjamas and a toothbrush, was sent away to live with his two aunts. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:25 | |
"Their names were Aunt Sponge and Aunt Spiker, | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
"and I'm sorry to say that they were horrible people. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
"They lived in a queer, ramshackle house | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
"on the top of a high hill in the South of England. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
"James could look down and see for miles and miles. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
"On a very clear day, if he looked in the right direction, | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
"he could see a tiny, grey dot, far away on the horizon, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:51 | |
"which was the house that he used to live in | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
"with his beloved mother and father. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
"And just beyond that, he could see the ocean itself - | 0:22:56 | 0:23:00 | |
"a long, thin streak of blackish blue, | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
"like a line of ink beneath the rim of the sky." | 0:23:03 | 0:23:07 | |
Throughout these troubled times, Roald's home remained in Wales. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:18 | |
He wrote to his mother there every week, | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
asking after Jones the gardener, the dogs and, | 0:23:22 | 0:23:26 | |
rather less often, his sisters. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
Always, he signed himself simply "Boy". | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
I think you can sense, even in those very early schoolboy letters, | 0:23:33 | 0:23:39 | |
the storyteller kind of beginning to enjoy his craft. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
He often tells her stories that, you know, | 0:23:42 | 0:23:46 | |
that have been told to him at school and then he starts to invent and he | 0:23:46 | 0:23:50 | |
starts to use language in a funny way, and I mean, | 0:23:50 | 0:23:54 | |
some of them are really, pretty remarkable for a young... | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
for a young child, so, although I think he had no idea | 0:23:57 | 0:24:01 | |
that that's what he was doing, I think, in some ways, | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
he was cutting his teeth as a storyteller even, you know, | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
writing home from St Peter's. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
In 1927, when Roald was ten, his mother and family left Wales, | 0:24:13 | 0:24:18 | |
bound for Kent. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
With Harald Dahl dead and Roald destined to finish his education | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
at public school, there was logic in a move to England. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
As a young man, Roald Dahl enjoyed a globetrotting life of adventure - | 0:24:30 | 0:24:35 | |
as an oilman in Africa, a World War II fighter pilot, | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
an intelligence officer and a Hollywood screenwriter. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:43 | |
When the time came to settle down, it was in rural Buckinghamshire. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
Here, he wrote some of the greatest children's books of the 20th century, | 0:24:49 | 0:24:54 | |
ground-breaking works that helped to redefine the genre. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
As the years went by, Roald Dahl cultivated an image - | 0:25:01 | 0:25:06 | |
that of a maverick English country gentleman. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
Yet he always enjoyed returning to Wales, often for seaside holidays. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:15 | |
On one of these trips, | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
he made a pilgrimage to the former home of his literary hero. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:23 | |
That man was also Welsh and a near contemporary - Dylan Thomas. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:28 | |
He did, of course, adore Dylan's literature, | 0:25:29 | 0:25:34 | |
and he'd heard about the hut that he wrote in | 0:25:34 | 0:25:39 | |
and he was thinking at that time, you know, | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
he was dealing with a family, a wife that was very ill, erm, | 0:25:42 | 0:25:46 | |
a son that was very ill, a daughter that he'd lost, | 0:25:46 | 0:25:50 | |
and he had to escape into the garden, you know, | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
to get a bit of peace in order to write, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
and he heard about Dylan's hut, and he went down to see it, and it's... | 0:25:56 | 0:26:00 | |
The hut at Gypsy House in Great Missenden | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
is a complete replica. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
You know, he more or less measured it and, you know, | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
where the door was and where the windows... It's a copy. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
Perhaps he felt... | 0:26:16 | 0:26:17 | |
..Dylan could influence him a little, once he was inside. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:24 | |
I don't know. And also, the connection with Wales, | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
you know, that roots are very important. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
And...he felt that. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
He felt, you know, he was born | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
and had a lot of his life, his young life, in Wales. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
Roald Dahl died in 1990, aged 74. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:49 | |
At his funeral, his daughter read a Dylan Thomas poem. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
He was, and still is, one of the world's great storytellers. | 0:26:56 | 0:27:01 | |
It's now 100 years since Roald Dahl was born in Wales, | 0:27:03 | 0:27:07 | |
so what do the young Welsh readers of today think of him? | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
You open it up, and then it's like you're in | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
a completely different world. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
I think Roald Dahl's funny, humorous and a bit... | 0:27:16 | 0:27:21 | |
bit naughty. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:22 | |
Sometimes, when I'm sad, then I read them to make me laugh. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:27 | |
When I read Matilda, I feel happy. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
I really like the way he makes up all the words and things like that. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:34 | |
They're really funny. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
It's really kind of inspirational. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
I think Roald Dahl is wonderful. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
One of Roald Dahl's best-loved books is The BFG. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:47 | |
At its end, the Big Friendly Giant meets the Queen, | 0:27:47 | 0:27:51 | |
who orders that an enormous house be built specially for him | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
in Windsor Great Park. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
There is, in the real world, | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
an enormous house in Windsor Great Park owned by the Queen. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:04 | |
Its name, as Roald Dahl surely knew, is Cumberland Lodge... | 0:28:04 | 0:28:08 | |
..his own childhood home in Wales. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
I think, for Roald, Wales always stood for the countryside, | 0:28:14 | 0:28:19 | |
somewhere that was happy, somewhere that was safe, | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
somewhere that was secure, | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
where he had some of the most happy, happy memories of his childhood. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:28 | |
You know, Jesuit says, "If you can have a child till seven," | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
or whatever, "you've got them." I think Wales functioned in that way | 0:28:31 | 0:28:36 | |
right throughout his life. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:37 | |
This was a place where everything would be OK | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
and I sort of think that that's what Wales meant for him. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
GLITTER BALL CHIRPS A "YOOHOO" | 0:29:12 | 0:29:14 | |
# Oh, it don't mean a thing | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
# If it ain't got that swing | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
# Doo-wa, doo-wa, doo-wa, doo-wa, doo-wa! # | 0:29:19 | 0:29:21 | |
Strictly: Mission Fabulous continues | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 |