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It's great to be back with Santer,

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where you'll get all the very, best in Ulster-Scots music,

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storytelling, history, lifestyle, and, of course, good craic.

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In this week's programme,

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Paula will be making a feast at the Cairncastle Music Festival.

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-Your "fine" is my "rough"!

-Or maybe your "fine" is my "rough"!

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Andy Mattison finds out all about a Greek chieftain

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that worked as a minister at Kilwarlin Moravian Church.

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The legend is that he didn't die in Dublin, that he faked his own death?

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Well, it could have happened that way.

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Mark Wilson, who'll be taking off on his musical journey in Scotland,

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starts that journey in England.

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You might be wondering

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why I'm starting a journey about Ulster-Scots music,

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south of the border, here at Carlisle Castle.

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And, young Luke Drysdale takes us round a queer selection of cars

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at the Yesteryear Exhibition at Mount Stewart.

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Whoever owns this isn't afraid to get a bit of mud on it.

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That's what motoring's about.

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But before all that,

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why don't you enjoy some really good Lowland Piping from Fred Morrison?

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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This is a great place you've brought me to for your cooking tonight.

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It's beautiful, isn't it?

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-You can see Scotland behind me.

-Look at the Ailsa Craig.

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We're not on our own here tonight.

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There are folk coming in the gate there for Cairncastle Festival.

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FIDDLE MUSIC

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What are you making?

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I'm making a brine beef, but I'm going to spice it,

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and then we'll do a turnip hash.

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So we're sort of going for a Cajuny Ulster-Scots theme.

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I've taken the beef out of the brine.

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There's juniper berries, there's coriander. Coriander...

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And then I've got a wee bit of peppercorn - pink peppercorn here.

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Cumin and coriander here.

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And then you've got your turmeric.

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All these were used traditionally, as you know, in Ulster-Scots.

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No salt - it's been in brine so you don't need that.

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Aye. Are those scallions fine enough for you now?

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Yes, they're fine.

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Your "fine" is my "rough", would that be right?

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Or maybe your "fine" is my rough!

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So, I've got some nice crispy, streaky bacon in there.

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You've got a wee bit of oil come out, so that's good.

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And then I put in some turnip that I've cooked beforehand.

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OK, so that just goes in there, that'll be great there.

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Do you want to throw your scallions in there?

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-Aye. A few in here?

-Uh-huh.

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Last year I grew my own scallions.

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-Did you?

-And chopped them myself.

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That's ready now in my book.

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The hash is coming on lovely - look at that.

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Gorgeous, can't wait for a spoonful of that.

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It does smell gorgeous.

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I cannae describe the smell of the spices. Beautiful.

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Take a wee bit of the hash - just put it down the middle.

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The turnip and bacon are lovely together.

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-Aye, gorgeous.

-It's just lovely.

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Do you think anybody will like theirs well done?

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A bit of music, a wee bit of good Ulster-Scots meat,

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it couldn't get better!

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Here's one of the festival organisers. Do you want to try a this?

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It smells brilliant.

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-Turnip, bacon and scallions.

-You can't beat turnip.

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Get a spoonful of that in you. What do you think of that?

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A bit of good Ulster-Scots cooking, Anne.

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We slaved hard over a hot stove.

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I saw that, yes. You've done well.

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Geordie, come here and taste this good Ulster-Scots meat

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and let me know what you think. Nice, spicy steak.

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Not too much, just a wee tiny bit.

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Don't you be eating it all now!

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What do you think of that?

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It's lovely!

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Isn't it gorgeous? Take a wee bit of the steak.

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-We'll just take the plate now, will we?

-Do you want the whole thing?!

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We'll be back with Paula later on in the show for pudding.

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Tha Proota Getherin.

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Dae ye mind the times in harvest climes

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When we went gatherin prootas

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Me, my ma, and once my da

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An the neighbours roon aboot us

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Bend yer back and dinnae slack

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Heid doon and dinnae stop

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The winter's not so far away

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And we cannae lose the crop

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Then pour tea away to the back of the hedge

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Which you take from a gallon can

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A loaf of bread wi' butter well spread

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And a coating of homemade jam

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An uncle sits by the proota pits

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as if that should shovel soil

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With a fire o' peat and a bite to eat

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At the end o' a hard day's toil.

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Well, I know in the last series,

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a lot of you enjoyed Mark Wilson's musical journey

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down the Old Wagon Road in America.

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Mark's off again. This time he's in Scotland.

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Last series, I packed up my drums and headed to America.

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I took a musical journey down through the Shenandoah Valley,

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down the Old Wagon Road.

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This time, I'm coming back to where the music all started,

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back in Scotland.

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But I'm starting my journey in England.

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And you might, quite rightly, be wondering why

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I'm starting a journey about Ulster-Scots music south of the border,

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here at Carlisle Castle.

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But it was within these walls

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that many of the border people were imprisoned.

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The rescue to capture one back again from the English forces,

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spawned a song 46 verses long, known as The Ballad Of Kinmont Willie.

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But there were many ballads written about these people

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because there were many Border Reivers.

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# Come a' ye gallant Borderers

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# Ilk water, moss and fell

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# Tae a' your weel kent nooks and crooks

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# Forever fare thee well

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# We'll gaun nae mair a-rovin'

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# A-rovin' in the nicht

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# We'll gaun nae mair a-rovin'

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# Let the moon shine e'er so bricht

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# We'll gaun nae mair a-rovin'

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# And when the harvest moon shone

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# What blithe times we did see... #

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Rod Paterson, you're probably the leading performer,

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singer and authority on Scottish Lowland and Border ballads.

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And the ballads was a huge tradition within the Border Reivers,

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and there are many ballads about the Reivers.

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There certainly are.

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When there's stuff going on

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like the wild kind of lawless antics of the Border Reivers,

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then that's going to occupy quite a lot of the available ballad space.

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# ..The king is ower the border gane

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# In London for tae dwell... #

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In the song that I sang you there which, incidentally, is not a ballad.

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That song was written in the early 1800s,

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with a retrospective view on the Border Reiving.

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But in the song they mention that the Border Reivers

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used to go to the Trent and the Humber.

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Now, that's weeks' ride away.

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These must have been massive expeditions,

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organised well in advance and with a goodly number of people.

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# ..And how can I, tether'd

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# On Yarrow's banks abide?

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# Wha far as Trent an Humber hae

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# Scour'd the Southrons wide.

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# We'll gaun nae mair a-rovin'... #

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Across the road from Carlisle Castle,

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is the Tully House Museum, which has a permanent exhibition on the Reivers.

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Reivers were basically lawless thieves, raiders and bandits.

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Families such as Armstrongs, Grahams, Elliots,

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were notorious raiding families from this area.

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But that was all to change

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when James VI and I came to the throne.

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He established a system called the Jedart System,

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which was basically zero tolerance.

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He told them to desist from their ways, move to Ulster or be hanged.

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Now, the Reivers loved their lawless way of life,

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and the only place they could continue that was Ulster.

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# An how now break ma bonnie Broon Tae harl't like a snail... #

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They must have had a bit of a gripe

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with the reasons that they've had to leave.

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Especially the ones that James VI and I

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transplanted over to Ulster.

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I mean, nobody was happy with that, I'm sure.

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I think the question you have to ask is,

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why did they take the ballads with them?

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And I think it just shows to what extent

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these stories were a part of their sense of themselves, you know.

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Are you going to leave your very heritage in Scotland,

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even although you're having to leave yourself?

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No, I think you take it all with you.

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It didn't occupy much space in your holdall, a ballad.

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# ..We'll gaun nae mair a-rovin' A-rovin' in the nicht

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# We'll gaun nae mair a-rovin' Let the moon shine e'er so bricht

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# We'll gaun nae mair a-rovin'! #

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Along the underpass between Carlisle Castle and the Tully House Museum,

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surnames of the Reivers are etched on the ground.

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Many of these names are common in Ulster, including Wilson.

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Maybe we weren't always good boys!

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Mark's Scottish journey that has taken off in Carlisle

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will take him to Dumfries, then on to Wigtown and Portpatrick,

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before he heads north to Dunoon,

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and finishes up in Campbeltown at the tip of the Mull of Kintyre.

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We'll be following his progress all through the series.

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My name is Luke Drysdale.

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I've come to the Cars Of Yesteryear exhibition at Mount Stewart.

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Now I'm going to have a look around.

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This here is a Ferrari 308 and it's got a V8 engine, right?

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And if you come round the back here,

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you can see that it's got a "4" on the back.

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It tells you that it's not a two-seater,

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which most Ferraris nowadays are.

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It's a four-seater, which makes it less valuable.

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This car has a three-litre V8 engine,

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and it's got 250 brake horse power.

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The top speed of it is 154 miles per hour.

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It goes from 0 to 60 in 6.9 seconds.

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Now, Michael Schumacher used to drive a Ferrari for most of his career,

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but now he's an old man he doesn't do very well.

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I've heard that choosing a Ferrari is like choosing a woman.

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You wouldn't want to go for an ugly one.

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You'd want to go for the nicest one you would see.

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But I'm too young to know about that stuff.

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You come from the same place as me, Michael.

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That's right, I'm from Portavogie.

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How many cars do you reckon are here today?

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I think there are at least 130.

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Why do you think they're so popular?

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If you look at the backdrop of this place,

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and you see the big house there,

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everybody loves to come to a place like this,

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because it's a lovely backdrop.

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What's your favourite car here today?

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I think it has to be this car.

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It's my favourite car here today, this Bugatti.

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Whoever owns this isn't afraid to get a bit of mud on it.

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Look at the dirt on her. He's not worried by that.

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That's what motoring's about.

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Now, this here car is a Morgan.

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I don't know very much about them, but I do know a man who does.

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Right, Andrew, I hear you like your cars.

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I'm very much into them.

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Can you tell me about this particular car?

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This one's a Morgan Plus 8. Morgan set out in 1909,

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building three-wheelers.

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Now these three-wheelers had a motorbike engine in them.

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From 1923, they started making four-wheelers with big V8s in them.

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Now this particular model here has a 4.6 litre V8 in it.

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So, that says 2006 here. So this here Morgan is a replica?

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Oh, no. All Morgans are hand-built nowadays.

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This one here, and the one behind it, they're both originals.

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Of the 130 cars on exhibit today,

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this Rolls Royce Silver Shadow has to be my favourite.

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It was made in 1978.

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Underneath the bonnet, it's got a 6.75 litre V8 engine.

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It's pretty big.

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Stephen, I see this is for sale. How much are you looking for it?

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24,000.

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That's a large amount.

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Would you take a tenner?

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-LAUGHING:

-I don't think so, not today, not today.

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That's all I've got in my piggy-bank.

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That's all you've got in your piggy-bank?!

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You know the way in English,

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you could have one word spelled one road with one meaning?

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Well, in Ulster-Scots,

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we could have the very same word, spelled the very same road,

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but with two or three different meanings.

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This is something that could keep you talking for hours,

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as Liam Logan and Gary Blair found out.

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Gary, we talked about some words

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that have shared meanings and different meanings.

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One of the words that I would look at would be "road".

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Aye, I know that many a time I use it in many different ways,

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in many different "roads" even!

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Out of interest, since you're a lot of years my senior...

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You cheeky blurt, you!

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..what would you call a main thoroughfare, a main road?

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It was always called a "line".

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It still is.

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The Ballymena Line. The Portrush Line.

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And the Rasharkin Line.

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That was about the full extent of my universe when I was young.

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The funny thing is for a stranger coming,

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"Do you know the Finvoy Road?",

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if they were asking someone local, they'd say, "The Finvoy Road?

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"I'm not sure - I know where the Rasharkin Line is," though it's one and the same.

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And if you weren't doing too well in your work,

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and your employer wasn't impressed

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with what you were bringing to your daily task,

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he maybe would "give you the road".

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He more than likely would!

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And I think I've heard that used a wee bit in English

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about people being "down the road".

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"Down the road", meaning they got sacked or paid off.

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And then you have that other meaning for it,

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where if you're going to a dance, a disco or somewhere,

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you may "pay your own road in".

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You might have paid HER road in,

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but unfortunately, when I was doing a bit of courting,

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the girl sometimes had to pay her own road in!

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Did that happen often?

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Very often! But I'm like most Ulster-Scots -

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I'm very fond of a pound.

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She can pay her own road!

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Paula, that last bit of meat went down very well.

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What are we having after?

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Well, I'm going to do... It's a sticky Indian meal cake,

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so it's not polenta.

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But we use Indian meal in Ulster-Scots cooking.

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So, if you beat that, and I'll add the eggs.

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I'm beating this, right?

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Yes, that's lovely. Faster, come on!

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What do you think I am, a Kenwood?

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So, what do you have in this now?

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That's just the beaten butter and the sugar,

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then you add four eggs.

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-Right.

-Now we're going to put in some plain flour,

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so if you keep beating.

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This is the corn meal, OK?

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It's nice in a cake because it's light -

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it lightens the cake.

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Oh, I tell you what, this better be some cake!

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Yes, so this is the cake. Now what I did...

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It came out of the oven, right,

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and I ran a skewer round the whole cake.

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Then just pour your whisky and honey syrup all over.

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I suppose that goes right in through the sponge.

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-That goes in and gives you a lovely, sticky cake.

-Oh, lovely.

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We're going to do a wee bit of...

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I'm just going to do some apples and pears with this.

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A wee bit of raisins and some whisky action as well.

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So, a nice hot pan.

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Do you think Ulster-Scots cookery is fond of whisky?

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Whisky and honey.

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Paula, I hate this bit.

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I know you do, Anne.

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Especially when there's whisky in it.

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-Aye!

-And it's sticky and...

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-Aye, whisky and honey.

-Mmmmm!

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So, you're playing here at the festival, are you,

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-and your name is Duke Joint?

-Duke Joint.

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And where are yous frae?

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We're frae Lurgan in Armagh!

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You'll have to get tasting this cake first then.

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There's whisky and honey in the apples and pears.

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There's Indian cornmeal in the cake.

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-It's beautiful.

-Well fed and well musicked -

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well everything at this festival!

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APPLAUSE

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Just outside Hillsborough, you'll find the Kilwarlin Moravian Church.

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Out of the five Moravian churches in Ireland,

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Kilwarlin's the only one that can say it had a Greek chieftain

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working as its minister.

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In 1828, Basil Patras Zula, a young Greek chieftain,

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had to go into exile with a price on his head, put in place by the Turks.

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He ended up in Dublin, married a Moravian,

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trained to be a minister, and was called to work at Kilwarlin.

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Andy Mattison finds out more.

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So, Reverend Quaite, you served here for four years in the '60s

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and, of course, you were well beloved by the local folk around here.

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But an even more famous and even more, you could say,

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beloved person, was Basil Patras Zula.

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Indeed. Zula came here early in 1834, of course,

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when he found the church, manse etc in a ruinous state.

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If you look up above the entrance to the church,

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you can see the plaque.

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It tells you when Zula rebuilt the church -

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October 13th, 1834.

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There are not many churches like this one.

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It looks slightly Grecian

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with the minarets on either side.

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Zula, of course, as you know, was a Greek nobleman.

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There was a price on his head, put there by the Turks.

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And, even though he had arrived here in Ireland,

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and arrived here at Kilwarlin, he still had a fear of assassination.

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And so, when he was rebuilding the manse,

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he rebuilt it in such a way

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that every room in the house had two doors.

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And, indeed, the house had two staircases.

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Why two doors in every room?

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Was it if someone came through one, he could run out the other?

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Correct - a means of escape.

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And the little addition to the back of the building here

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is very interesting.

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Zula had that specially built,

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and on the floor there was a trap-door.

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Underneath was a hiding place, so that if he saw someone coming,

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thought he was going to be assassinated,

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he could nip in there through the trap-door and hide.

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Indeed, my wife actually used that little outshot as a sewing room

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when we lived here.

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She used to hide from you?

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Well, that's possible!

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Zula was homesick but couldn't return home

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so he employed the local Ulster-Scots folk

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to lay out and maintain the church grounds

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on the plan of the famous Greek battle of Thermopylae,

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including a grassy brae to represent Mount Oeta.

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You can't help but wonder what the local folk thought

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of this strange building -

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a representation of a Greek battle in front of their church,

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here in the middle of Kilwarlin outside Hillsborough.

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You know the Ulster folk as well as I do.

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They're rather pragmatic people, aren't they?

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Here was this gentleman employing them.

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They could feed their families at this rather difficult time.

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What Zula did, of course, was to put in a pond.

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It's a bit overgrown now.

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The pond represented the hot springs that gave Thermopylae its name.

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Around the pond,

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he created flower-beds of the 24 letters of the alphabet.

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It's just a little bit difficult to see.

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Well, of course this would be 150 years old.

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Oh, yes.

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So, as you're standing here,

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you can trace out - it looks like an upside-down V.

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-It does.

-It looks like a V from this side,

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but come here, you can trace it round as "Alpha".

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And over here you do have just the start of the Omega

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-going under the trees there.

-Yes, uh-huh.

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And in the grounds of the churchyard here,

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we have Zula lying in his grave.

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He died in October 1844.

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Yes, down at...

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And his wife is beside him.

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Yes, she died in 1858.

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But, of course, the question really is, is he there?

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Is he in the grave?

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Ah, you're referring to the legend that grew up following his death.

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The story goes that he was supposed to have seen

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a couple of rather foreign-looking gentlemen hanging around the place.

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He was, of course, going to Dublin on church business.

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So he thought that these foreign-looking gentlemen,

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-were the Turks come to get him.

-Possibly.

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The story goes that it was arranged that he would go into hiding.

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Some people think that he may have gone back to Greece,

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and the coffin, when it was brought up to Kilwarlin from Dublin,

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contained stones instead of Zula's body.

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So the legend is that he didn't die in Dublin,

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that he actually faked his own death?

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Well, it could have happened that way,

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but I believe that's just a story.

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I personally prefer to believe

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that his remains are here with us, here at Kilwarlin.

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Well, that's near enough it.

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We hope you'll stay with us for the rest of the series.

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We're going to leave you now with some more good music.

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# Working on the farm, up at the crack of dawn

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# Jump out of bed, get your overalls on

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