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'Richard Burton was a Welsh miner's son who left the valleys | 0:00:16 | 0:00:20 | |
'to become one of the most acclaimed stage actors of his generation. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:25 | |
'Burton had the looks, the charisma and that fantastic voice. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:31 | |
'But in the eyes of some, | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
'he sacrificed his artistic promise by becoming a huge Hollywood star. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:39 | |
'He was permanently plastered across the newspaper front pages, | 0:00:39 | 0:00:44 | |
'more famous for his lifestyle and relationship with Elizabeth Taylor | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
'than for his roles and his talent. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
'It was a criticism Burton didn't necessarily reject. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
'In interviews throughout his career, | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
'he would openly admit that he was driven by money | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
'and that he didn't rate many of his performances - | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
'downplaying, perhaps, his seven Oscar nominations for Best Actor. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:07 | |
'We join Burton here for an interview with Michael Elwyn | 0:01:07 | 0:01:12 | |
'from the 1965 programme My Time Again, | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
'which begins with him discussing the craft of acting.' | 0:01:15 | 0:01:20 | |
How absorbed into a part do you get? | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
You seem to use little theatrical tricks | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
and that it is very much your own brooding personality and voice, | 0:01:26 | 0:01:31 | |
with little...technical means of getting something over. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:36 | |
How much, you know, do you feel in a part? | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
Well, I didn't think that I was capable of, | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
I don't know quite what the word is, but when you get close to a part... | 0:01:43 | 0:01:48 | |
In my case, it's a sort of osmosis, | 0:01:48 | 0:01:52 | |
the transference of something from one thing to the other, | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
that I actually begin to feel | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
curiously like the character that I'm playing, | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
even if it's in a film. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
I'm not, by any means, a method actor. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:08 | |
I don't deliberately think myself into these kind of things. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
There is an odd thing that does happen | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
when you're totally absorbed in a part. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
I'm a fairly grey fellow, latterly very grey and... | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
..live within myself, as it were, | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
because I'm playing a part who is grey and lives within himself. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
He's not heroic - antiheroic. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
I wouldn't accept a fight from anybody at the moment. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
Maybe a year ago, I would have. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
You made your name playing Hamlet, Henry V, Iago, Coriolanus, | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
roles like these, and never Troilus, Florizel, Romeo. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:50 | |
How... I hate those parts. It's completely alien, is it? | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
Oh, yes. I think Romeo's probably the worst part written by anybody. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
That's so famous, I mean. There are worse parts. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
I once played Ferdinand in The Tempest. I'll tell you a story. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
When you start to get bad notices, it's interesting to collect them. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:08 | |
My favourite bad notice is for Ferdinand in The Tempest. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
He's a kind of stand-in, a kind of understudy for Romeo | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
and all those abject Shakespearean heroes | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
who, quite clearly, are ladies. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
I was playing this part, Ferdinand, in The Tempest. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
I loathed it with a passionate intensity and begged them to let me out of it. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:30 | |
I said, "I'll be one of the dancers. I'll be a nymph, anything, | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
"but don't let me play this diabolical Ferdinand." | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
However, they forced me to play it. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
I'm not short - but then, I'm not tall, either. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
I'm exactly five feet ten and a half inches in height, | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
and I tend to width. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
They put me in a costume that had bunches of grapes over here. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:54 | |
I looked like some strange Welsh Stone-Age troglodyte. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:59 | |
And I pretended that I wasn't on the stage. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
I had a toy sword in my hand and those terrible things | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
they give you in Shakespeare that make your legs look two inches high. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:09 | |
I was perfectly convinced that nobody knew I was on the stage. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:13 | |
The critics were suitably kind. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
They said I "contributed effectively to the atmosphere", something like that. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
Except for an old friend of mine called Ken Tynan, who said, | 0:04:19 | 0:04:24 | |
"This is the first time in our experience, | 0:04:24 | 0:04:28 | |
"that we've ever seen Ferdinand played by a bull." | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
INTERVIEWER LAUGHS | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
You moved on from the English theatre to Hollywood when you were, | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
as many people said, on the threshold of greatness in the English theatre. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:44 | |
Did you leave for financial reasons | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
or has the cinema always held | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
a stronger fascination for you than the live theatre? | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
No. Not particularly. I went to Hollywood. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
I made a couple of films, both of which were very successful. | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
One was called My Cousin Rachel and the other was called The Robe. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
If you call that the threshold, I was on the threshold of earning a great deal of money. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:10 | |
And I was very sensible, I thought, | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
and played for a year at the Old Vic and therefore got into debt. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:18 | |
I played Hamlet and...Coriolanus | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
and the bastard in King John and Caliban and...I've forgotten. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:27 | |
Then I went back to Hollywood, did another film, | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
then went back to the Old Vic for another year. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
I spread it out fairly evenly between the two worlds. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
"Greatness" is a word I don't understand. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
I asked the question because you seem to have spent a long time in cinema | 0:05:41 | 0:05:46 | |
trying to come to grips with the camera. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
Critical success has eluded you until recently | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
in Beckett and Night Of The Iguana. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
Yeah, the reason for that is my wife. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
She knows a great deal about film acting and she persuaded me | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
that I mustn't pretend film acting is just a means | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
of filling in time between stage performances. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
And, indeed, made me work at it, which I'd never done. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
I really, I think, fundamentally, profoundly believed | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
that film acting was only an excuse for acting. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
Until, as you kindly pointed out, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
latterly, the last three or four years. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:22 | |
You feel you're now beginning to feel at home? | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
I wouldn't go as far as to think that I'm good or anything like that | 0:06:26 | 0:06:31 | |
in the film half of the business, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
but certainly I've... I try much harder than I did. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:38 | |
Do you film more because, basically, you're Byronic, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:42 | |
and the location work and the travelling and the unreal atmosphere | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
makes just as big a contribution to your own personal happiness | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
as does the actual creating of a role? | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
Yeah, that's a dicey question. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
"Byronic" is such an extraordinary word to apply. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
I don't like travelling very much. You don't? No. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
I like being in places. I hate getting there. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
I hate planes. I don't mind trains and I don't mind boats. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
Nowadays, one has to fly everywhere, so I hate getting from one place to the other. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
Also, we have an enormous family. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
Travelling from one place to the other with four children is not easy. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:22 | |
No, that has nothing to do, I don't think, with the film business, | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
my desire to travel or my lack of desire, it's just that one has to. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:30 | |
If I could change tack, | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
how important is the literature of theatre to you? | 0:07:32 | 0:07:37 | |
Immensely important. Much more important than anything else. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
What do you read and who...? | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
I don't read plays very much. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
I don't like plays to read, except, of course, Shakespeare. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
My chief world, I suppose, as a reader, | 0:07:50 | 0:07:56 | |
is almost entirely poetic. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
Or the opposite - detective stories. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
I'm a voracious reader, omnivorous, I will read anything. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:07 | |
But the thing that draws me back all the time is poetry. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:11 | |
I'm not really interested in Brecht or any of the non-poetic writers. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:17 | |
People who are clearly instinctively poetic, | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
like John Osborne or Harold Pinter | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
who, despite the fact they write in prose are unquestionably poets, | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
are fascinating. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
Or the man that I'm going to play next, that I've never played, | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
Edward Albee. Although he writes in prose, | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
there's no question about this man's stupendous eloquence and poetry. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:40 | |
But to play...some of those chaps who write Lonsdale comedies | 0:08:40 | 0:08:46 | |
never interested me at all. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
If you wrote a play, would it be in verse? | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
It would be in monologue and I would play the central part. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
Do you have any plans to return soon to the live theatre? | 0:08:59 | 0:09:05 | |
In England. I know you've done Hamlet recently on Broadway. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
This was your first return to classical roles for a long time. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:13 | |
Are we going to...? Yes, I think next year I go back to Oxford, | 0:09:13 | 0:09:18 | |
to OUR university, | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
and play Marlowe's Faustus | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
with Dr Nevill Coghill directing, and the rest of the company, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:29 | |
apart from Helen of Troy - who shall be nameless - | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
will be played by the boys at Oxford. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
'That performance of Doctor Faustus did go ahead, | 0:09:35 | 0:09:39 | |
'with Burton and Elizabeth Taylor waiving any salaries, | 0:09:39 | 0:09:43 | |
'and Taylor taking the non-speaking part of Helen of Troy. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
'The pair of them also faced some prickly prodding from the press, | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
'once the production had ended.' | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
MAN: You must at some time, Richard Burton, have faced the question | 0:09:53 | 0:09:57 | |
of whether you should have continued as an imposing and even, | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
in the view of many people, | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
great stage actor, or moved into the world of films, | 0:10:03 | 0:10:07 | |
which is more commercially rewarding but perhaps not so rewarding artistically. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:12 | |
Do you ever regret having moved into the commercial cinema? | 0:10:12 | 0:10:16 | |
Oooh! Excuse me, Richard. That makes me so angry! | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
Because he has NOT left the stage! That's absolute bloody rubbish... | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
Elizabeth, pull yourself together. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
Last year, he was just doing a thing here for Oxford on the stage. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
On Broadway, that was the stage. How can you say he's left the stage? | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
That is not a continuous stage career, in the sense, for example, | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
of Paul Scofield or Laurence Olivier. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
HE's not continuous on the stage. He does film appearances for money! | 0:10:39 | 0:10:43 | |
So does Paul Scofield. Scofield has made one film in ten or 14 years. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:48 | |
Richard was, at one time, after Coriolanus particularly, | 0:10:48 | 0:10:53 | |
hailed as potentially the greatest stage actor England ever produced. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:57 | |
I wonder whether, in a way, your making of Faustus, | 0:10:57 | 0:11:02 | |
which is the story of a man who sells out for a dream, almost, | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
is perhaps comparable with your decision then. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
No, I don't think so. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
One of the differences between myself and some other actors | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
is the fact that they really have... almost an anguish. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:20 | |
For instance, Sir John Gielgud, | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
who's almost my favourite actor in the world. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
John really is helpless, upset unless he gets onto the stage and gets his teeth into a part. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:31 | |
Even though it's a part he doesn't want to play. He has to be there. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
I don't have that sense of compulsion. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
Also, I need roughly six weeks of active playing after the rehearsals, | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
after you open, before the part matures as fully as I can make it. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:47 | |
And then it begins to crack and flaw. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
I don't have... | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
I have enormous energy, but I don't have the kind of moral stamina | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
that Laurence Olivier has and Paul has and John has, to go on and on. | 0:11:56 | 0:12:01 | |
I want to ask Elizabeth Taylor if your irritation | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
was because you felt that the cinema was not | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
the creative medium... No... I wonder why you got so cross. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
Because you said the exact phrase that I knew you were working up to, | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
"sold out", and it offends me to my soul. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
I'm going to sell out, I hope one day, to the stage. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
It's exactly the same thing. If I go on the stage, I'm selling out. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
You feel the two arts are, in their own medium, just as comparable? | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
Of course they are. Quite. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
Richard Burton's cinema performance is as creative as he could have done on the stage? | 0:12:32 | 0:12:37 | |
It's just as tasking, perhaps sometimes more tasking because it's more difficult. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:42 | |
I don't know about that... Technically. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
You start a scene where you have a flow and you stop for two hours, | 0:12:44 | 0:12:48 | |
then you start again. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
I promise you, your concentration has to be finely whittled down. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
Anyway, David, I think usually that "sold out" business | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
is written in England. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
By cheap journalists. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
I left England in 1957. The last play I did in England was in 1957. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:07 | |
Since that time, I've done six plays, | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
five of which were enormous successes in New York. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
Since you disappear from the London scene, they sometimes think you're not still acting on the stage. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:19 | |
And I don't care whether they think I've sold out or not. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:24 | |
One thing you have said, Richard, about your life with Elizabeth | 0:13:24 | 0:13:28 | |
is that it is a continuous excitement. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
One can never really be sure what she's going to do next, as I found out just now. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:36 | |
Would you say that the excitement will continue? | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
We enjoy each other's company very much. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
We're people of very high temperament, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
as you may have noticed from Elizabeth. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:47 | |
LAUGHING: Indeed, yes. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
We find it very difficult | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
to be apart from each other for more than two or three hours. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:56 | |
In fact, our film careers are absolutely - film and stage - | 0:13:56 | 0:14:02 | |
bound up in the fact that we must never ever be separated. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
You don't mind being known as the "Laurel and Hardy"? | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
No, I named me that. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
What's wrong with that? We should BE so lucky! | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
Do you ever wish you WEREN'T so beautiful? | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
Oh, God! I wake up every morning saying, "Jesus! | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
"If only I weren't so gorgeous!" What do you mean? Well, you are. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:25 | |
NEW MALE SPEAKER: Of course she doesn't wish she wasn't beautiful. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:29 | |
INTERVIEWER: But sometimes a woman who is an actress says, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
"If I weren't, they'd take me more seriously," as Richard is saying. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
One's heard of those mythical, apocryphal actresses | 0:14:36 | 0:14:41 | |
who jump into a bath of milk every morning and splash themselves, | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
"I AM beautiful!" Elizabeth doesn't do that. It's a bath of gin. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
LAUGHS I don't like gin! Champagne! | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
'Richard Burton's marriage to Elizabeth Taylor would last into the next decade, | 0:14:51 | 0:14:56 | |
'but by 1974, the years of high living and hard drinking | 0:14:56 | 0:15:01 | |
'had taken their toll, as Barry Norman explored | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
'in an interview on the set of Burton's latest film, The Voyage.' | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
NORMAN: 'Burton has become as famous for his flamboyant purchases | 0:15:08 | 0:15:13 | |
'of yachts and aeroplanes and fur coats and fabulous diamonds, | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
'as for his acting.' | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
Wait a second. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
'The Burton-Taylor marriage, as far as one can tell with such a volatile couple, is over, | 0:15:26 | 0:15:31 | |
'but it was exciting while it lasted. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
'Quarrels, reconciliations and the frequent exchange of lavish presents | 0:15:33 | 0:15:37 | |
'and always, on Burton, the dominating influence of his wife.' | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
Richard, looking back on your career, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
it seems to be divided in two almost exactly by Cleopatra. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:48 | |
Would you agree with that, | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
that it changed course completely after Cleopatra? | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
I don't know. I think my life was changed by a woman, you know, | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
who was called Elizabeth Taylor. | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
I'm not entirely sure what exactly she did to me. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:05 | |
But certainly... | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
I don't know exactly what to say. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
Those people, you know, like Laurence Olivier and Paul Scofield | 0:16:17 | 0:16:23 | |
and...Marlon Brando and Elizabeth Taylor and people like that, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:31 | |
they're very rare, very strange, very odd, very perverse. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:36 | |
And they obviously believe that they are very extraordinary people, | 0:16:36 | 0:16:43 | |
in their odd way. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
They believe firmly, of course, that they are... | 0:16:46 | 0:16:51 | |
..gifted by God or something like that. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
Unfortunately, I don't believe that, you see - I mean, about myself. | 0:16:55 | 0:17:01 | |
There's unquestionably a kind of passion, a strange idiocy, | 0:17:01 | 0:17:09 | |
where you... | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
..you walk on the stage or you walk on the screen or whatever it is, | 0:17:13 | 0:17:18 | |
and you feel a strange kind of power. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
I defy the power, of course. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
What would you say it is that YOU do, when you're in front of the camera? | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
I think I'm a sort of animal. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
I get on there and I chunter out the words. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
I have a reasonable voice and so on. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:42 | |
I just get out there and become an animal, in some strange way. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:48 | |
In the same way that the other people become animals. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
Except that they believe | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
that they are fundamentally powerful and beautiful and so on. | 0:17:55 | 0:18:00 | |
I don't believe that at all. Certainly, I'm not powerful. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
Certainly, I'm not beautiful. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
I don't understand what these fellows do. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
Except that I appreciate what they do, if you know what I mean. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
What keeps you going in the same profession? | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
Money. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:17 | |
But you don't need the money now, surely? | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
You've got to be joking! | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
I've got about 50,000 people to take care of. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
I have to pay everybody off. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
I have to pay lawyers...legends... | 0:18:28 | 0:18:34 | |
I have to keep this dog. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
At the moment, I'm doing all right. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
I pick up a lot of money for films and, I don't know. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:47 | |
It's absolute nonsense. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
The whole idea of the film business is nonsense. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
On the stage, of course, I'm absolutely sure, I'm certain. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:57 | |
I can go anywhere and play anything. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
But I don't REALLY know what prompts the imagination of the public... | 0:19:01 | 0:19:08 | |
DOG WHINES Shut up. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
It's a funny Chinese dog. The only Chinese dog who speaks Welsh. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:16 | |
NORMAN LAUGHS | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
No, I really think it's very odd and very perverse. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:24 | |
Laurence Olivier once said that were it not for the fact that he were an actor, | 0:19:26 | 0:19:32 | |
he would have gone mad. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
I'm beginning to think that I would have gone mad, too. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
But I don't put myself in the same category as Laurence Olivier, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:44 | |
because he really loves the theatre. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
He's obsessed by it, and so on. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
I'm not. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:51 | |
On what basis do you choose the roles you're going to play in movies? | 0:19:51 | 0:19:56 | |
Sometimes, you seem to make very curious choices, | 0:19:56 | 0:20:00 | |
films like Bluebeard and Hammersmith Is Out. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
One wonders why you chose to do those films. Yeah. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
I long to be a failure(!) NORMAN LAUGHS | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
And...? | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
And I AM a failure. Well, yeah, but a really successful failure. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:18 | |
No, I manage. I get along. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:20 | |
I'm afraid that, in about five or six months, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
I'm going to go back on stage. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
It terrifies me. It appals me. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
But I go back on stage. SIGHS | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
Why? Is it sheer masochism? | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
Perhaps, perhaps. Never thought of that. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
Richard, where do you go from here? How do you envisage your future? | 0:20:40 | 0:20:45 | |
Are you going to go back to the stage, continue making movies? | 0:20:45 | 0:20:49 | |
You once told me you were going to retire. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
I think, er...that the, er...essential, er... | 0:20:53 | 0:20:59 | |
..thing that I must do is, um... | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
quietly, er... | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
..room myself into the grave, you know. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:13 | |
Sleep, sleep, sleep. Sleep is so fundamental. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:18 | |
Did I ever tell you that poem about sleep? I bet I didn't. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
No, I don't think you did. Oh, yeah. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
But... BURTON CHUCKLES | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
Is it going to be back to the theatre or more movies? | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
No, no. The only thing that's important are the children | 0:21:37 | 0:21:42 | |
and Elizabeth | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
and, er... | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
being alive, I suppose, in a sort of extraordinary way. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:51 | |
I don't know. I don't know. I really don't. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
That sounds a very depressed attitude for you to be taking. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
I would have thought that the position you're in now | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
you would be feeling much more bucked-up about things. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
You must understand, Barry, that I'm sending you up. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
I thought you might be. Yeah(!) | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
Er... | 0:22:13 | 0:22:14 | |
I think I'm reasonably...intelligent, | 0:22:15 | 0:22:20 | |
er...clever, | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
good, kind. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
Sweet. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
Nasty. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:29 | |
Gifted? | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
Oh, no. I'm not gifted, no. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
MAN GIVES INSTRUCTION IN ITALIAN | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
'Do you feel very vulnerable, then, when you're acting? | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
'Oh, I HATE acting. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
'You did tell me a few years ago that you planned to give it up. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:57 | |
'But you've made a lot of films since then. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
'I have to make the money. I have to make the money. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:04 | |
'If you give your wife a jewel | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
'or something costing, shall we say, | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
'about $100,000 or whatever it is, | 0:23:11 | 0:23:16 | |
'what the hell are you going to do?' | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
No, no. I just count the shekels, I count the money. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
Do you really do it just for the money, Richard? | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
Now, Barry. I mean... | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
We're in a very, very, very strange state today. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
Who knows...what happens? | 0:23:33 | 0:23:37 | |
I don't know. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
May I have a cigarette? By all means. Yes. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
Do you enjoy this superstar status, the tremendous celebrity, | 0:23:43 | 0:23:48 | |
the fact that you can't move without being mobbed? | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
Do you really enjoy it, that kind of life? | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
If it stops, I'm dead... | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
'Just two months later, Burton was divorced | 0:23:57 | 0:24:01 | |
'and had just spent six weeks in hospital | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
'battling his legendary alcoholism. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
'But he was still able to undergo another interview, | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
'this time with Michael Parkinson.' | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
Richard, welcome. Let's talk about that background of yours, | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
because it does interest me. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
The path you've come has been quite extraordinary. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
You'd think a novelist had written it and if a novelist did write it, | 0:24:29 | 0:24:33 | |
you could accuse him of over-exaggeration. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
All right, the background - humble, comparatively so. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
We've agreed on that. Yeah. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
What, in fact, did it give you, that background, do you think? | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
I think a tremendous sense of... | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
..strength, I suppose. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
Because I presume that if you survive such a... | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
I'm talking like Churchill. Isn't it funny? | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
If you survive such a background, you must have come from an extraordinary...er... | 0:24:58 | 0:25:04 | |
race of people. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
I'm enormously proud, of course, of being Welsh. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
This extraordinary voice of yours, | 0:25:09 | 0:25:10 | |
would you say that it's a kind of Welsh voice? Is there such a thing? | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
Oh, yes. It's the deep, dark answer from the valleys to everybody. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
LAUGHTER I can't help the voice. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
It is part of me and I didn't cultivate it or anything. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:26 | |
It was given to me and I'm very lucky to possess it, I suppose. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
Er...certainly, it's... | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
..it's not a gift that I would wish on anybody else. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
Why? | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
Too powerful. LAUGHTER | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
Too much competition, perhaps? | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
Can we go back to something...? AS PARKINSON: Can we go back to...? | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
You ARE a mimic. You can mimic most people quite accurately. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:53 | |
No, I can't. Well, I can do some. LAUGHTER | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
I might do you, Michael, by the end of the day. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
Who can you do? | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
Oh, I suppose I can do... | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
I can do quite a few actors and so on. Like who? | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
Well, I can do...Laurence Olivier. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
Could you? Yes. Right now? Please. LAUGHTER | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
I have to pitch my voice up a bit, | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
because his voice is rather higher toned than mine. So... | 0:26:19 | 0:26:23 | |
I have to do it physically. Do you mind? Can you pick the camera up? | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
They'll follow you, that's what they're there for. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
Here he comes. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:31 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:26:31 | 0:26:33 | |
Richard III, right? LAUGHTER | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
LAUGHING: Brilliant! | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
AS OLIVIER Now is the winter of our discontent | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
made glorious summer by this SUN of York | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
and all the clouds that lour'd about our house | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
in the deep bosom of the o-ce-an buried. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:52 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:26:52 | 0:26:53 | |
Who else, Richard? | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
Well, I don't think I'll do anybody else in case I get into trouble. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
Do that marvellous... Over lunch, you did a marvellous Lee Marvin. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:13 | |
It must be the other extreme. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
Well, yes. Lee Marvin's a very strange man and very beautiful | 0:27:16 | 0:27:20 | |
and very extraordinary, | 0:27:20 | 0:27:22 | |
but he becomes, when he's had a few drinks, | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
he's become...he becomes... | 0:27:25 | 0:27:27 | |
..incoherent in the most splendid possible way. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:33 | |
He makes a series of nouns... | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
CHUCKLING: ..sounds that really take one's breath away. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:40 | |
Sorry, I'm not going to be able to speak because I'm getting incoherent the way that Lee Marvin does. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:46 | |
And he says to... We just did a film together in the United States. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:51 | |
He said to OJ Simpson, who is probably the greatest athlete in the world, | 0:27:51 | 0:27:57 | |
er...enormous, fantastic, splendid black man. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:02 | |
Lee was trying to explain to him how to act. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:06 | |
He started off all right, Lee. He was very good. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
Started off perfectly well | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
and then his language degenerated into a kind of noises. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:16 | |
He said to OJ... | 0:28:16 | 0:28:18 | |
AS LEE MARVIN: You know what acting's about, it's kinda... | 0:28:20 | 0:28:24 | |
Shht! Swsh! | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
Whoo! Kkkkkk! | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
LAUGHTER That's the we we do it baby, huh? | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE | 0:28:31 | 0:28:33 | |
I look fat on that monitor. I'm not fat, actually. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
No, indeed you're not. You're looking very trim. Yeah. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
You mentioned earlier Dylan Thomas. He had a most remarkable voice. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:50 | |
I remember the first time I heard that voice. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
I'll tell you what struck me about him. It was rather a posh voice. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:57 | |
Yes. He used to call himself "plus fours and no breakfast" or "chiffon and cut glass", | 0:28:57 | 0:29:03 | |
his particular accent. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:05 | |
Dylan, of course, was a very extraordinary man, | 0:29:05 | 0:29:09 | |
a genius, I suppose. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
And... | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
I'll give you an example of what Dylan was like. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
We all had to go to a poetry reading. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
I was there and Dylan | 0:29:19 | 0:29:21 | |
and, um...Dame Edith Sitwell | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
and Dame Edith Evans... | 0:29:24 | 0:29:26 | |
and Louis MacNeice. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
It was at the Lyric, Hammersmith, I remember that. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:32 | |
John Gielgud was the overall director of the whole thing. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
So I said, "Could you get Dylan," I said, in my subtlest way... | 0:29:35 | 0:29:40 | |
"..to speak Tennyson?" Because I know he hates Tennyson. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:45 | |
So John arranged it so that Dylan spoke Tennyson and the poem was... | 0:29:45 | 0:29:51 | |
"A splendour falls on castle walls And snowy summits old in story: | 0:29:51 | 0:29:55 | |
"The long light shakes across the lakes | 0:29:55 | 0:29:57 | |
"And the wild cataract leaps in glory. | 0:29:57 | 0:29:59 | |
"Blow, bugles, blow Let the wild..." something. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
"..And answer, echoes, answer dying, dying, dying." | 0:30:02 | 0:30:07 | |
So it goes on, and the envoi is always "dying, dying, dying". | 0:30:07 | 0:30:11 | |
Dylan was suddenly forced to speak this poem. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:15 | |
Again, I can only do things physically. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:19 | |
I have to do it. All right? | 0:30:19 | 0:30:21 | |
LAUGHTER So he gets now, | 0:30:21 | 0:30:25 | |
"The splendour falls on castle walls | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
"And snowy summits old in story:" | 0:30:28 | 0:30:30 | |
And of course, an eternal Woodbine in his mouth! | 0:30:30 | 0:30:34 | |
"The long light shakes across the lakes | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
"And the wild cataracts leap in glory. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
"Blow, bugles, blow, set the wild echoes flying | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
"And answer, echoes, answer, dying, dying, dying." | 0:30:41 | 0:30:45 | |
Then he gets to the last verse. I thought, "What's he going to do to show his hatred of Tennyson? | 0:30:45 | 0:30:52 | |
"He's got to show it in the words that he says." | 0:30:52 | 0:30:56 | |
He says, "Oh, love, they die on yon rich sky, | 0:30:56 | 0:31:00 | |
"They faint on hill and field and river: | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
"Their echoes roll from soul to soul And go for ever and for ever. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:08 | |
"Blow, bugles, blow, set the wild echoes flying | 0:31:08 | 0:31:12 | |
"And answer, echoes, answer, | 0:31:12 | 0:31:14 | |
"dying, | 0:31:14 | 0:31:16 | |
"dying... | 0:31:16 | 0:31:18 | |
"Oh! Dying." LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
He was, ultimately, a very tragic man, wasn't he? I suppose so. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
He sought his own death and he found it, which is not entirely tragic. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
He certainly... | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
wrote, of course, the most magical things. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:45 | |
And he's alive. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:47 | |
Yes. He's alive. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:49 | |
One gets a sense of waste, though, surely, when you think? | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
He left behind him stuff that will live for ever, but he might have left more. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:57 | |
No, I don't think so. I think he's the same as... | 0:31:57 | 0:32:00 | |
Well, Michael, you say a sense of waste. I wouldn't quarrel with that. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:06 | |
But I think he probably burned himself out. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
He fulfilled the notion a lot of people have | 0:32:09 | 0:32:13 | |
about the Welsh, the Celts, actually, generally, | 0:32:13 | 0:32:16 | |
about this death wish they have, the creative people. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:20 | |
Do you, first of all, accept that they have this...kind of... | 0:32:20 | 0:32:25 | |
headlong rush toward... toward the edge? | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
Yes, I think that we rather love precipices. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
We go towards them and withdraw, now and again. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:36 | |
Temporary. Sometimes, we go over the edge. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
Certainly, it's true in Dylan's case. Hm. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:44 | |
I wouldn't pretend to know what went on in his extraordinary head, | 0:32:44 | 0:32:50 | |
but certainly, he searched for...destruction. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:56 | |
Have you ever felt yourself going toward the precipice and pulling back short of it? | 0:32:56 | 0:33:01 | |
Well, yes, I have. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:03 | |
I think we all do, we Celts. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:05 | |
Um... | 0:33:05 | 0:33:07 | |
Would you care to tell me how? In what circumstance? | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
Well... | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
There was a second or two, I think, | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
perhaps about a year ago | 0:33:15 | 0:33:17 | |
when, er...I didn't fancy much staying alive. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:21 | |
Really? | 0:33:23 | 0:33:25 | |
You contemplated suicide? Oh, no! | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
UNCERTAIN LAUGHTER No! I wouldn't kill myself. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
In the ordinary sense of the word. I wouldn't take pills or drugs. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:35 | |
Or anything, really, in that sense. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
But I did suddenly wake up one morning | 0:33:38 | 0:33:42 | |
and found how splendidly rich and extraordinary the world was | 0:33:42 | 0:33:47 | |
and that I couldn't bear its richness | 0:33:47 | 0:33:51 | |
and its beauty. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:52 | |
And in order to obviate | 0:33:52 | 0:33:56 | |
the idea of the richness and extraordinary beauty of the world, | 0:33:56 | 0:34:01 | |
I thought it's best to leave it. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
We're all... We all know that we're going towards... | 0:34:04 | 0:34:08 | |
an inevitable doom. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
It's rather interesting to deliberately go towards it | 0:34:13 | 0:34:17 | |
and then withdraw, | 0:34:17 | 0:34:19 | |
because nobody else has been there and withdrawn. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:24 | |
But I've been there. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
I've seen that dark wood. I know how terrible it is. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
How frightful it is and how frightening it is. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:33 | |
But I went there and came back. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
'Coming back would eventually mean three more weddings. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:39 | |
'One, a short-lived reunion with Elizabeth Taylor, | 0:34:39 | 0:34:43 | |
'and then to Susan Hunt and finally to Sally Hay. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:47 | |
'Coming back also meant some notable career successes. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:52 | |
'Equus earned Burton rave reviews on the stage, | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
'and his role in the movie version that followed won him a Golden Globe. | 0:34:56 | 0:35:01 | |
'He narrated the smash hit that was Jeff Wayne's War Of The Worlds | 0:35:01 | 0:35:06 | |
'and scored a huge box office hit with the film The Wild Geese. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:10 | |
'In fact, in spite of his health problems, | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
'he found it impossible to stop working, | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
'as he explained in a documentary in 1983.' | 0:35:16 | 0:35:20 | |
Once, Elizabeth said, "It would be a good idea if you took a year off, | 0:35:20 | 0:35:25 | |
"because you never stop." She's only done 30-something films. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:29 | |
35 films. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:31 | |
And she's been a star since she was eight. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
And... But she takes time off. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
I never have. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:39 | |
I've done the most utter rubbish, | 0:35:39 | 0:35:41 | |
in order to have somewhere to go in the morning. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
So she said, "Take a year off." | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
I said, "OK." We had a lovely house in Mexico, sunny, everything. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:53 | |
I lasted five weeks. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
I was off. I did a film. | 0:35:57 | 0:35:59 | |
CHUCKLING: I won't bother to tell you about it. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
INTERVIEWER: Ah, come on. Let's hear it. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
A man came to see me and he said, | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
AMERICAN ACCENT: "We've got a lot of wastage on the floor | 0:36:07 | 0:36:11 | |
"out of a film called Tobruk." | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
I said, "Oh, have you?" | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
He said, "It made six million bucks." | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
I said, "Did it? Who's in it?" | 0:36:20 | 0:36:23 | |
He said, "Rock Hudson and... George Peppard." | 0:36:23 | 0:36:27 | |
He said, "What I did was, I picked up all these bits off the floor. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:34 | |
"I put them all together and I got all the writers in." | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
It was Universal Studios. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:39 | |
Universal Studios is still run like the old studios were, | 0:36:39 | 0:36:43 | |
with a big boss and all that. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:45 | |
"So I said to the ten writers, | 0:36:45 | 0:36:47 | |
"make outta this, make a script so we can use the long shots | 0:36:47 | 0:36:53 | |
"and use Burton in the close-ups." | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
And they did it. And they made a do-able film! | 0:36:56 | 0:36:59 | |
I was so fascinated, I couldn't resist it. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
We went off and we shot the film | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
in three weeks and two days or something. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:08 | |
The film went out and was successful. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
It's called Raid On Rommel. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:14 | |
All the long shots, it's Rock Hudson | 0:37:14 | 0:37:17 | |
and all the close-ups, it's an Englishman called Green. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:21 | |
And all the long shots, it's George Peppard | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
and all the close-ups it's me. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:26 | |
One year, I earned $8 million. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:30 | |
For one film. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:34 | |
I got paid a million for the film and the film was so successful | 0:37:34 | 0:37:39 | |
that another seven million came in. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
I remember getting a cheque just before Christmas, | 0:37:42 | 0:37:46 | |
about three days before Christmas, for $1 million. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:50 | |
Which added to the rest. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
And it's not that I'm frightened of the money or anything like that. | 0:37:56 | 0:38:00 | |
It's not my province. I give it away. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:04 | |
I give it to my family | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
or I buy enormous presents for Elizabeth Taylor. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:12 | |
Or did. Or for Susan. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
Or for Sally - | 0:38:15 | 0:38:17 | |
who's the next one up. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
I just, I cannot hold on to it. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:23 | |
I hold on to a little piece of property | 0:38:23 | 0:38:27 | |
with a roof on the house and that's all. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
What's the worst film you've made? I don't know. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:34 | |
I made some lousy ones in my time. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:36 | |
I always start off - not that one - with very good intentions. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:41 | |
The script seems very good, | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
the director has a tremendous reputation. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
The producer's a good producer. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
You start off and you suddenly realise, after two weeks, | 0:38:49 | 0:38:53 | |
you're in a piece of rubbish and there's nothing you can do about it. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:57 | |
In a play... Oddly enough, | 0:38:57 | 0:38:59 | |
I've done almost exactly the same number of plays as I've done films. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:04 | |
In a play, I've only had one really, real failure. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:09 | |
Which was, er...in New York. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
We only ran for two weeks or something like that. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:17 | |
And a good play, too, by Anouilh. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:19 | |
I think it was misdirected and miscast. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:23 | |
And I don't think I was very good and all that. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
But whether that is the fact that you, yourself, can change a play | 0:39:26 | 0:39:33 | |
without benefit of director, as long as you've got a good lighting man, | 0:39:33 | 0:39:38 | |
we light the damn thing properly, and good actors around you, | 0:39:38 | 0:39:43 | |
you can actually do things with an indifferent piece | 0:39:43 | 0:39:47 | |
which you can't do with a film. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
I've never thought much of myself as an actor. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
I don't mean to be mock modest. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
At the same time, | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
I don't think there's been any particularly successful thing | 0:40:00 | 0:40:05 | |
that I've ever done, that one particular one, | 0:40:05 | 0:40:09 | |
that gave me any... | 0:40:09 | 0:40:11 | |
..special pleasure. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:16 | |
I think the fact that I was able to take care | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
of a certain amount of people has given me SOME pleasure. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:24 | |
The fact that I had the power to do it. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:26 | |
But then, there are some people, maybe three or four in the world - | 0:40:26 | 0:40:32 | |
outside my family - whom I love. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
You know, I trust them with my life. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:37 | |
And have had to, sometimes. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
And all the things, the troubles that they've gone through, | 0:40:39 | 0:40:43 | |
you can imagine, as a result of the enormous publicity I've had, | 0:40:43 | 0:40:48 | |
never once have they ever...worried me about it, | 0:40:48 | 0:40:53 | |
or said, "Stop doing this," "Stop doing that," | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
or "You're being a bad boy." | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
They've been terribly good with me, always. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:02 | |
They're a marvellous family. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
Apart from my family and two or three other people, | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
there are very few people I would trust. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
With anything. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:11 | |
'This was Richard Burton's last interview for the BBC. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:17 | |
'His final role, for which he was critically acclaimed, | 0:41:17 | 0:41:20 | |
'was as the menacing O'Brien in the movie of George Orwell's 1984, | 0:41:20 | 0:41:26 | |
'in which he co-starred with John Hurt. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:30 | |
'Two months before the film premiere, | 0:41:30 | 0:41:32 | |
'Burton suffered a brain haemorrhage and died at home in Switzerland. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:38 | |
'He was 58. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:40 | |
'In the obituaries, one of the most quoted anecdotes | 0:41:40 | 0:41:45 | |
'was his response to a telegram he received from Sir Laurence Olivier | 0:41:45 | 0:41:50 | |
'that said, "Make up your mind, dear heart. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
'"Do you want to be a great actor or a household word?" | 0:41:53 | 0:41:58 | |
'Burton's answer was immediate. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
'He simply said, "Both." | 0:42:00 | 0:42:04 | |
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