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'Richard Burton was a Welsh miner's son who left the valleys

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'to become one of the most acclaimed stage actors of his generation.

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'Burton had the looks, the charisma and that fantastic voice.

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'But in the eyes of some,

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'he sacrificed his artistic promise by becoming a huge Hollywood star.

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'He was permanently plastered across the newspaper front pages,

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'more famous for his lifestyle and relationship with Elizabeth Taylor

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'than for his roles and his talent.

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'It was a criticism Burton didn't necessarily reject.

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'In interviews throughout his career,

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'he would openly admit that he was driven by money

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'and that he didn't rate many of his performances -

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'downplaying, perhaps, his seven Oscar nominations for Best Actor.

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'We join Burton here for an interview with Michael Elwyn

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'from the 1965 programme My Time Again,

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'which begins with him discussing the craft of acting.'

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How absorbed into a part do you get?

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You seem to use little theatrical tricks

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and that it is very much your own brooding personality and voice,

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with little...technical means of getting something over.

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How much, you know, do you feel in a part?

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Well, I didn't think that I was capable of,

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I don't know quite what the word is, but when you get close to a part...

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In my case, it's a sort of osmosis,

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the transference of something from one thing to the other,

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that I actually begin to feel

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curiously like the character that I'm playing,

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even if it's in a film.

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I'm not, by any means, a method actor.

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I don't deliberately think myself into these kind of things.

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There is an odd thing that does happen

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when you're totally absorbed in a part.

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I'm a fairly grey fellow, latterly very grey and...

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..live within myself, as it were,

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because I'm playing a part who is grey and lives within himself.

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He's not heroic - antiheroic.

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I wouldn't accept a fight from anybody at the moment.

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Maybe a year ago, I would have.

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You made your name playing Hamlet, Henry V, Iago, Coriolanus,

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roles like these, and never Troilus, Florizel, Romeo.

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How... I hate those parts. It's completely alien, is it?

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Oh, yes. I think Romeo's probably the worst part written by anybody.

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That's so famous, I mean. There are worse parts.

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I once played Ferdinand in The Tempest. I'll tell you a story.

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When you start to get bad notices, it's interesting to collect them.

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My favourite bad notice is for Ferdinand in The Tempest.

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He's a kind of stand-in, a kind of understudy for Romeo

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and all those abject Shakespearean heroes

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who, quite clearly, are ladies.

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I was playing this part, Ferdinand, in The Tempest.

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I loathed it with a passionate intensity and begged them to let me out of it.

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I said, "I'll be one of the dancers. I'll be a nymph, anything,

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"but don't let me play this diabolical Ferdinand."

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However, they forced me to play it.

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I'm not short - but then, I'm not tall, either.

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I'm exactly five feet ten and a half inches in height,

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and I tend to width.

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They put me in a costume that had bunches of grapes over here.

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I looked like some strange Welsh Stone-Age troglodyte.

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And I pretended that I wasn't on the stage.

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I had a toy sword in my hand and those terrible things

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they give you in Shakespeare that make your legs look two inches high.

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I was perfectly convinced that nobody knew I was on the stage.

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The critics were suitably kind.

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They said I "contributed effectively to the atmosphere", something like that.

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Except for an old friend of mine called Ken Tynan, who said,

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"This is the first time in our experience,

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"that we've ever seen Ferdinand played by a bull."

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INTERVIEWER LAUGHS

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You moved on from the English theatre to Hollywood when you were,

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as many people said, on the threshold of greatness in the English theatre.

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Did you leave for financial reasons

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or has the cinema always held

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a stronger fascination for you than the live theatre?

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No. Not particularly. I went to Hollywood.

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I made a couple of films, both of which were very successful.

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One was called My Cousin Rachel and the other was called The Robe.

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If you call that the threshold, I was on the threshold of earning a great deal of money.

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And I was very sensible, I thought,

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and played for a year at the Old Vic and therefore got into debt.

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I played Hamlet and...Coriolanus

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and the bastard in King John and Caliban and...I've forgotten.

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Then I went back to Hollywood, did another film,

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then went back to the Old Vic for another year.

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I spread it out fairly evenly between the two worlds.

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"Greatness" is a word I don't understand.

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I asked the question because you seem to have spent a long time in cinema

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trying to come to grips with the camera.

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Critical success has eluded you until recently

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in Beckett and Night Of The Iguana.

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Yeah, the reason for that is my wife.

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She knows a great deal about film acting and she persuaded me

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that I mustn't pretend film acting is just a means

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of filling in time between stage performances.

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And, indeed, made me work at it, which I'd never done.

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I really, I think, fundamentally, profoundly believed

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that film acting was only an excuse for acting.

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Until, as you kindly pointed out,

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latterly, the last three or four years.

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You feel you're now beginning to feel at home?

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I wouldn't go as far as to think that I'm good or anything like that

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in the film half of the business,

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but certainly I've... I try much harder than I did.

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Do you film more because, basically, you're Byronic,

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and the location work and the travelling and the unreal atmosphere

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makes just as big a contribution to your own personal happiness

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as does the actual creating of a role?

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Yeah, that's a dicey question.

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"Byronic" is such an extraordinary word to apply.

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I don't like travelling very much. You don't? No.

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I like being in places. I hate getting there.

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I hate planes. I don't mind trains and I don't mind boats.

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Nowadays, one has to fly everywhere, so I hate getting from one place to the other.

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Also, we have an enormous family.

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Travelling from one place to the other with four children is not easy.

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No, that has nothing to do, I don't think, with the film business,

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my desire to travel or my lack of desire, it's just that one has to.

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If I could change tack,

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how important is the literature of theatre to you?

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Immensely important. Much more important than anything else.

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What do you read and who...?

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I don't read plays very much.

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I don't like plays to read, except, of course, Shakespeare.

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My chief world, I suppose, as a reader,

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is almost entirely poetic.

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Or the opposite - detective stories.

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I'm a voracious reader, omnivorous, I will read anything.

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But the thing that draws me back all the time is poetry.

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I'm not really interested in Brecht or any of the non-poetic writers.

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People who are clearly instinctively poetic,

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like John Osborne or Harold Pinter

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who, despite the fact they write in prose are unquestionably poets,

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are fascinating.

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Or the man that I'm going to play next, that I've never played,

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Edward Albee. Although he writes in prose,

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there's no question about this man's stupendous eloquence and poetry.

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But to play...some of those chaps who write Lonsdale comedies

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never interested me at all.

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If you wrote a play, would it be in verse?

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It would be in monologue and I would play the central part.

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LAUGHTER

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Do you have any plans to return soon to the live theatre?

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In England. I know you've done Hamlet recently on Broadway.

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This was your first return to classical roles for a long time.

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Are we going to...? Yes, I think next year I go back to Oxford,

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to OUR university,

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and play Marlowe's Faustus

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with Dr Nevill Coghill directing, and the rest of the company,

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apart from Helen of Troy - who shall be nameless -

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will be played by the boys at Oxford.

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'That performance of Doctor Faustus did go ahead,

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'with Burton and Elizabeth Taylor waiving any salaries,

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'and Taylor taking the non-speaking part of Helen of Troy.

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'The pair of them also faced some prickly prodding from the press,

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'once the production had ended.'

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MAN: You must at some time, Richard Burton, have faced the question

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of whether you should have continued as an imposing and even,

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in the view of many people,

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great stage actor, or moved into the world of films,

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which is more commercially rewarding but perhaps not so rewarding artistically.

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Do you ever regret having moved into the commercial cinema?

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Oooh! Excuse me, Richard. That makes me so angry!

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Because he has NOT left the stage! That's absolute bloody rubbish...

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Elizabeth, pull yourself together.

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Last year, he was just doing a thing here for Oxford on the stage.

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On Broadway, that was the stage. How can you say he's left the stage?

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That is not a continuous stage career, in the sense, for example,

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of Paul Scofield or Laurence Olivier.

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HE's not continuous on the stage. He does film appearances for money!

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So does Paul Scofield. Scofield has made one film in ten or 14 years.

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Richard was, at one time, after Coriolanus particularly,

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hailed as potentially the greatest stage actor England ever produced.

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I wonder whether, in a way, your making of Faustus,

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which is the story of a man who sells out for a dream, almost,

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is perhaps comparable with your decision then.

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No, I don't think so.

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One of the differences between myself and some other actors

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is the fact that they really have... almost an anguish.

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For instance, Sir John Gielgud,

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who's almost my favourite actor in the world.

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John really is helpless, upset unless he gets onto the stage and gets his teeth into a part.

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Even though it's a part he doesn't want to play. He has to be there.

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I don't have that sense of compulsion.

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Also, I need roughly six weeks of active playing after the rehearsals,

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after you open, before the part matures as fully as I can make it.

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And then it begins to crack and flaw.

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I don't have...

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I have enormous energy, but I don't have the kind of moral stamina

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that Laurence Olivier has and Paul has and John has, to go on and on.

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I want to ask Elizabeth Taylor if your irritation

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was because you felt that the cinema was not

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the creative medium... No... I wonder why you got so cross.

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Because you said the exact phrase that I knew you were working up to,

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"sold out", and it offends me to my soul.

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I'm going to sell out, I hope one day, to the stage.

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It's exactly the same thing. If I go on the stage, I'm selling out.

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You feel the two arts are, in their own medium, just as comparable?

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Of course they are. Quite.

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Richard Burton's cinema performance is as creative as he could have done on the stage?

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It's just as tasking, perhaps sometimes more tasking because it's more difficult.

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I don't know about that... Technically.

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You start a scene where you have a flow and you stop for two hours,

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then you start again.

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I promise you, your concentration has to be finely whittled down.

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Anyway, David, I think usually that "sold out" business

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is written in England.

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By cheap journalists.

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I left England in 1957. The last play I did in England was in 1957.

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Since that time, I've done six plays,

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five of which were enormous successes in New York.

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Since you disappear from the London scene, they sometimes think you're not still acting on the stage.

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And I don't care whether they think I've sold out or not.

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One thing you have said, Richard, about your life with Elizabeth

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is that it is a continuous excitement.

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One can never really be sure what she's going to do next, as I found out just now.

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Would you say that the excitement will continue?

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We enjoy each other's company very much.

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We're people of very high temperament,

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as you may have noticed from Elizabeth.

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LAUGHING: Indeed, yes.

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We find it very difficult

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to be apart from each other for more than two or three hours.

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In fact, our film careers are absolutely - film and stage -

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bound up in the fact that we must never ever be separated.

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You don't mind being known as the "Laurel and Hardy"?

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No, I named me that.

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What's wrong with that? We should BE so lucky!

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Do you ever wish you WEREN'T so beautiful?

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Oh, God! I wake up every morning saying, "Jesus!

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"If only I weren't so gorgeous!" What do you mean? Well, you are.

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NEW MALE SPEAKER: Of course she doesn't wish she wasn't beautiful.

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INTERVIEWER: But sometimes a woman who is an actress says,

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"If I weren't, they'd take me more seriously," as Richard is saying.

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One's heard of those mythical, apocryphal actresses

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who jump into a bath of milk every morning and splash themselves,

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"I AM beautiful!" Elizabeth doesn't do that. It's a bath of gin.

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LAUGHS I don't like gin! Champagne!

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'Richard Burton's marriage to Elizabeth Taylor would last into the next decade,

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'but by 1974, the years of high living and hard drinking

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'had taken their toll, as Barry Norman explored

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'in an interview on the set of Burton's latest film, The Voyage.'

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NORMAN: 'Burton has become as famous for his flamboyant purchases

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'of yachts and aeroplanes and fur coats and fabulous diamonds,

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'as for his acting.'

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Wait a second.

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'The Burton-Taylor marriage, as far as one can tell with such a volatile couple, is over,

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'but it was exciting while it lasted.

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'Quarrels, reconciliations and the frequent exchange of lavish presents

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'and always, on Burton, the dominating influence of his wife.'

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Richard, looking back on your career,

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it seems to be divided in two almost exactly by Cleopatra.

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Would you agree with that,

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that it changed course completely after Cleopatra?

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I don't know. I think my life was changed by a woman, you know,

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who was called Elizabeth Taylor.

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I'm not entirely sure what exactly she did to me.

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But certainly...

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I don't know exactly what to say.

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Those people, you know, like Laurence Olivier and Paul Scofield

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and...Marlon Brando and Elizabeth Taylor and people like that,

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they're very rare, very strange, very odd, very perverse.

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And they obviously believe that they are very extraordinary people,

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in their odd way.

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They believe firmly, of course, that they are...

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..gifted by God or something like that.

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Unfortunately, I don't believe that, you see - I mean, about myself.

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There's unquestionably a kind of passion, a strange idiocy,

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where you...

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..you walk on the stage or you walk on the screen or whatever it is,

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and you feel a strange kind of power.

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I defy the power, of course.

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What would you say it is that YOU do, when you're in front of the camera?

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I think I'm a sort of animal.

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I get on there and I chunter out the words.

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I have a reasonable voice and so on.

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I just get out there and become an animal, in some strange way.

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In the same way that the other people become animals.

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Except that they believe

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that they are fundamentally powerful and beautiful and so on.

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I don't believe that at all. Certainly, I'm not powerful.

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Certainly, I'm not beautiful.

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I don't understand what these fellows do.

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Except that I appreciate what they do, if you know what I mean.

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What keeps you going in the same profession?

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Money.

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But you don't need the money now, surely?

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You've got to be joking!

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I've got about 50,000 people to take care of.

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I have to pay everybody off.

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I have to pay lawyers...legends...

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I have to keep this dog.

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At the moment, I'm doing all right.

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I pick up a lot of money for films and, I don't know.

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It's absolute nonsense.

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The whole idea of the film business is nonsense.

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On the stage, of course, I'm absolutely sure, I'm certain.

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I can go anywhere and play anything.

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But I don't REALLY know what prompts the imagination of the public...

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DOG WHINES Shut up.

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It's a funny Chinese dog. The only Chinese dog who speaks Welsh.

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NORMAN LAUGHS

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No, I really think it's very odd and very perverse.

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Laurence Olivier once said that were it not for the fact that he were an actor,

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he would have gone mad.

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I'm beginning to think that I would have gone mad, too.

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But I don't put myself in the same category as Laurence Olivier,

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because he really loves the theatre.

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He's obsessed by it, and so on.

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I'm not.

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On what basis do you choose the roles you're going to play in movies?

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Sometimes, you seem to make very curious choices,

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films like Bluebeard and Hammersmith Is Out.

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One wonders why you chose to do those films. Yeah.

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I long to be a failure(!) NORMAN LAUGHS

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And...?

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And I AM a failure. Well, yeah, but a really successful failure.

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No, I manage. I get along.

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I'm afraid that, in about five or six months,

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I'm going to go back on stage.

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It terrifies me. It appals me.

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But I go back on stage. SIGHS

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Why? Is it sheer masochism?

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Perhaps, perhaps. Never thought of that.

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Richard, where do you go from here? How do you envisage your future?

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Are you going to go back to the stage, continue making movies?

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You once told me you were going to retire.

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I think, er...that the, er...essential, er...

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..thing that I must do is, um...

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quietly, er...

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..room myself into the grave, you know.

0:21:090:21:13

Sleep, sleep, sleep. Sleep is so fundamental.

0:21:130:21:18

Did I ever tell you that poem about sleep? I bet I didn't.

0:21:180:21:22

No, I don't think you did. Oh, yeah.

0:21:220:21:25

But... BURTON CHUCKLES

0:21:280:21:31

Is it going to be back to the theatre or more movies?

0:21:310:21:34

No, no. The only thing that's important are the children

0:21:370:21:42

and Elizabeth

0:21:420:21:44

and, er...

0:21:440:21:46

being alive, I suppose, in a sort of extraordinary way.

0:21:460:21:51

I don't know. I don't know. I really don't.

0:21:510:21:55

That sounds a very depressed attitude for you to be taking.

0:21:550:21:59

I would have thought that the position you're in now

0:21:590:22:02

you would be feeling much more bucked-up about things.

0:22:020:22:05

You must understand, Barry, that I'm sending you up.

0:22:050:22:08

I thought you might be. Yeah(!)

0:22:080:22:10

Er...

0:22:130:22:14

I think I'm reasonably...intelligent,

0:22:150:22:20

er...clever,

0:22:200:22:22

good, kind.

0:22:220:22:24

Sweet.

0:22:260:22:28

Nasty.

0:22:280:22:29

Gifted?

0:22:330:22:35

Oh, no. I'm not gifted, no.

0:22:350:22:38

MAN GIVES INSTRUCTION IN ITALIAN

0:22:390:22:42

'Do you feel very vulnerable, then, when you're acting?

0:22:450:22:48

'Oh, I HATE acting.

0:22:490:22:51

'You did tell me a few years ago that you planned to give it up.

0:22:530:22:57

'But you've made a lot of films since then.

0:22:570:23:00

'I have to make the money. I have to make the money.

0:23:000:23:04

'If you give your wife a jewel

0:23:040:23:07

'or something costing, shall we say,

0:23:070:23:11

'about $100,000 or whatever it is,

0:23:110:23:16

'what the hell are you going to do?'

0:23:160:23:19

No, no. I just count the shekels, I count the money.

0:23:190:23:23

Do you really do it just for the money, Richard?

0:23:230:23:26

Now, Barry. I mean...

0:23:270:23:29

We're in a very, very, very strange state today.

0:23:290:23:33

Who knows...what happens?

0:23:330:23:37

I don't know.

0:23:370:23:39

May I have a cigarette? By all means. Yes.

0:23:410:23:43

Do you enjoy this superstar status, the tremendous celebrity,

0:23:430:23:48

the fact that you can't move without being mobbed?

0:23:480:23:52

Do you really enjoy it, that kind of life?

0:23:520:23:55

If it stops, I'm dead...

0:23:550:23:57

'Just two months later, Burton was divorced

0:23:570:24:01

'and had just spent six weeks in hospital

0:24:010:24:04

'battling his legendary alcoholism.

0:24:040:24:07

'But he was still able to undergo another interview,

0:24:070:24:10

'this time with Michael Parkinson.'

0:24:100:24:13

APPLAUSE

0:24:130:24:15

Richard, welcome. Let's talk about that background of yours,

0:24:200:24:23

because it does interest me.

0:24:230:24:25

The path you've come has been quite extraordinary.

0:24:250:24:29

You'd think a novelist had written it and if a novelist did write it,

0:24:290:24:33

you could accuse him of over-exaggeration.

0:24:330:24:36

All right, the background - humble, comparatively so.

0:24:360:24:39

We've agreed on that. Yeah.

0:24:390:24:41

What, in fact, did it give you, that background, do you think?

0:24:410:24:45

I think a tremendous sense of...

0:24:450:24:48

..strength, I suppose.

0:24:490:24:51

Because I presume that if you survive such a...

0:24:510:24:55

I'm talking like Churchill. Isn't it funny?

0:24:550:24:58

If you survive such a background, you must have come from an extraordinary...er...

0:24:580:25:04

race of people.

0:25:040:25:06

I'm enormously proud, of course, of being Welsh.

0:25:060:25:09

This extraordinary voice of yours,

0:25:090:25:10

would you say that it's a kind of Welsh voice? Is there such a thing?

0:25:100:25:14

Oh, yes. It's the deep, dark answer from the valleys to everybody.

0:25:140:25:18

LAUGHTER I can't help the voice.

0:25:180:25:21

It is part of me and I didn't cultivate it or anything.

0:25:210:25:26

It was given to me and I'm very lucky to possess it, I suppose.

0:25:260:25:30

Er...certainly, it's...

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..it's not a gift that I would wish on anybody else.

0:25:350:25:38

Why?

0:25:380:25:41

Too powerful. LAUGHTER

0:25:410:25:43

Too much competition, perhaps?

0:25:430:25:46

Can we go back to something...? AS PARKINSON: Can we go back to...?

0:25:460:25:49

You ARE a mimic. You can mimic most people quite accurately.

0:25:490:25:53

No, I can't. Well, I can do some. LAUGHTER

0:25:530:25:56

I might do you, Michael, by the end of the day.

0:25:560:25:59

Who can you do?

0:25:590:26:01

Oh, I suppose I can do...

0:26:010:26:03

I can do quite a few actors and so on. Like who?

0:26:050:26:08

Well, I can do...Laurence Olivier.

0:26:080:26:12

Could you? Yes. Right now? Please. LAUGHTER

0:26:120:26:15

I have to pitch my voice up a bit,

0:26:160:26:19

because his voice is rather higher toned than mine. So...

0:26:190:26:23

I have to do it physically. Do you mind? Can you pick the camera up?

0:26:230:26:26

They'll follow you, that's what they're there for.

0:26:260:26:30

Here he comes.

0:26:300:26:31

LAUGHTER

0:26:310:26:33

Richard III, right? LAUGHTER

0:26:330:26:37

LAUGHING: Brilliant!

0:26:370:26:39

AS OLIVIER Now is the winter of our discontent

0:26:400:26:43

made glorious summer by this SUN of York

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and all the clouds that lour'd about our house

0:26:460:26:48

in the deep bosom of the o-ce-an buried.

0:26:480:26:52

APPLAUSE

0:26:520:26:53

Who else, Richard?

0:27:010:27:04

Well, I don't think I'll do anybody else in case I get into trouble.

0:27:040:27:08

Do that marvellous... Over lunch, you did a marvellous Lee Marvin.

0:27:080:27:13

It must be the other extreme.

0:27:130:27:16

Well, yes. Lee Marvin's a very strange man and very beautiful

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and very extraordinary,

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but he becomes, when he's had a few drinks,

0:27:220:27:25

he's become...he becomes...

0:27:250:27:27

..incoherent in the most splendid possible way.

0:27:290:27:33

He makes a series of nouns...

0:27:330:27:36

CHUCKLING: ..sounds that really take one's breath away.

0:27:360:27:40

Sorry, I'm not going to be able to speak because I'm getting incoherent the way that Lee Marvin does.

0:27:400:27:46

And he says to... We just did a film together in the United States.

0:27:460:27:51

He said to OJ Simpson, who is probably the greatest athlete in the world,

0:27:510:27:57

er...enormous, fantastic, splendid black man.

0:27:570:28:02

Lee was trying to explain to him how to act.

0:28:020:28:06

He started off all right, Lee. He was very good.

0:28:060:28:09

Started off perfectly well

0:28:090:28:11

and then his language degenerated into a kind of noises.

0:28:110:28:16

He said to OJ...

0:28:160:28:18

AS LEE MARVIN: You know what acting's about, it's kinda...

0:28:200:28:24

Shht! Swsh!

0:28:240:28:26

Whoo! Kkkkkk!

0:28:260:28:28

LAUGHTER That's the we we do it baby, huh?

0:28:280:28:31

LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:28:310:28:33

I look fat on that monitor. I'm not fat, actually.

0:28:390:28:42

No, indeed you're not. You're looking very trim. Yeah.

0:28:420:28:45

You mentioned earlier Dylan Thomas. He had a most remarkable voice.

0:28:450:28:50

I remember the first time I heard that voice.

0:28:500:28:53

I'll tell you what struck me about him. It was rather a posh voice.

0:28:530:28:57

Yes. He used to call himself "plus fours and no breakfast" or "chiffon and cut glass",

0:28:570:29:03

his particular accent.

0:29:030:29:05

Dylan, of course, was a very extraordinary man,

0:29:050:29:09

a genius, I suppose.

0:29:090:29:11

And...

0:29:110:29:13

I'll give you an example of what Dylan was like.

0:29:130:29:16

We all had to go to a poetry reading.

0:29:160:29:19

I was there and Dylan

0:29:190:29:21

and, um...Dame Edith Sitwell

0:29:210:29:24

and Dame Edith Evans...

0:29:240:29:26

and Louis MacNeice.

0:29:260:29:28

It was at the Lyric, Hammersmith, I remember that.

0:29:280:29:32

John Gielgud was the overall director of the whole thing.

0:29:320:29:35

So I said, "Could you get Dylan," I said, in my subtlest way...

0:29:350:29:40

"..to speak Tennyson?" Because I know he hates Tennyson.

0:29:420:29:45

So John arranged it so that Dylan spoke Tennyson and the poem was...

0:29:450:29:51

"A splendour falls on castle walls And snowy summits old in story:

0:29:510:29:55

"The long light shakes across the lakes

0:29:550:29:57

"And the wild cataract leaps in glory.

0:29:570:29:59

"Blow, bugles, blow Let the wild..." something.

0:29:590:30:02

"..And answer, echoes, answer dying, dying, dying."

0:30:020:30:07

So it goes on, and the envoi is always "dying, dying, dying".

0:30:070:30:11

Dylan was suddenly forced to speak this poem.

0:30:110:30:15

Again, I can only do things physically.

0:30:150:30:19

I have to do it. All right?

0:30:190:30:21

LAUGHTER So he gets now,

0:30:210:30:25

"The splendour falls on castle walls

0:30:250:30:28

"And snowy summits old in story:"

0:30:280:30:30

And of course, an eternal Woodbine in his mouth!

0:30:300:30:34

"The long light shakes across the lakes

0:30:340:30:36

"And the wild cataracts leap in glory.

0:30:360:30:38

"Blow, bugles, blow, set the wild echoes flying

0:30:380:30:41

"And answer, echoes, answer, dying, dying, dying."

0:30:410:30:45

Then he gets to the last verse. I thought, "What's he going to do to show his hatred of Tennyson?

0:30:450:30:52

"He's got to show it in the words that he says."

0:30:520:30:56

He says, "Oh, love, they die on yon rich sky,

0:30:560:31:00

"They faint on hill and field and river:

0:31:000:31:03

"Their echoes roll from soul to soul And go for ever and for ever.

0:31:030:31:08

"Blow, bugles, blow, set the wild echoes flying

0:31:080:31:12

"And answer, echoes, answer,

0:31:120:31:14

"dying,

0:31:140:31:16

"dying...

0:31:160:31:18

"Oh! Dying." LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:31:190:31:22

He was, ultimately, a very tragic man, wasn't he? I suppose so.

0:31:310:31:35

He sought his own death and he found it, which is not entirely tragic.

0:31:350:31:39

He certainly...

0:31:390:31:41

wrote, of course, the most magical things.

0:31:410:31:45

And he's alive.

0:31:450:31:47

Yes. He's alive.

0:31:470:31:49

One gets a sense of waste, though, surely, when you think?

0:31:490:31:52

He left behind him stuff that will live for ever, but he might have left more.

0:31:520:31:57

No, I don't think so. I think he's the same as...

0:31:570:32:00

Well, Michael, you say a sense of waste. I wouldn't quarrel with that.

0:32:000:32:06

But I think he probably burned himself out.

0:32:060:32:09

He fulfilled the notion a lot of people have

0:32:090:32:13

about the Welsh, the Celts, actually, generally,

0:32:130:32:16

about this death wish they have, the creative people.

0:32:160:32:20

Do you, first of all, accept that they have this...kind of...

0:32:200:32:25

headlong rush toward... toward the edge?

0:32:250:32:28

Yes, I think that we rather love precipices.

0:32:290:32:32

We go towards them and withdraw, now and again.

0:32:320:32:36

Temporary. Sometimes, we go over the edge.

0:32:360:32:39

Certainly, it's true in Dylan's case. Hm.

0:32:390:32:44

I wouldn't pretend to know what went on in his extraordinary head,

0:32:440:32:50

but certainly, he searched for...destruction.

0:32:500:32:56

Have you ever felt yourself going toward the precipice and pulling back short of it?

0:32:560:33:01

Well, yes, I have.

0:33:010:33:03

I think we all do, we Celts.

0:33:030:33:05

Um...

0:33:050:33:07

Would you care to tell me how? In what circumstance?

0:33:070:33:10

Well...

0:33:100:33:12

There was a second or two, I think,

0:33:120:33:15

perhaps about a year ago

0:33:150:33:17

when, er...I didn't fancy much staying alive.

0:33:170:33:21

Really?

0:33:230:33:25

You contemplated suicide? Oh, no!

0:33:250:33:28

UNCERTAIN LAUGHTER No! I wouldn't kill myself.

0:33:280:33:31

In the ordinary sense of the word. I wouldn't take pills or drugs.

0:33:310:33:35

Or anything, really, in that sense.

0:33:350:33:38

But I did suddenly wake up one morning

0:33:380:33:42

and found how splendidly rich and extraordinary the world was

0:33:420:33:47

and that I couldn't bear its richness

0:33:470:33:51

and its beauty.

0:33:510:33:52

And in order to obviate

0:33:520:33:56

the idea of the richness and extraordinary beauty of the world,

0:33:560:34:01

I thought it's best to leave it.

0:34:010:34:04

We're all... We all know that we're going towards...

0:34:040:34:08

an inevitable doom.

0:34:080:34:11

It's rather interesting to deliberately go towards it

0:34:130:34:17

and then withdraw,

0:34:170:34:19

because nobody else has been there and withdrawn.

0:34:190:34:24

But I've been there.

0:34:240:34:26

I've seen that dark wood. I know how terrible it is.

0:34:260:34:29

How frightful it is and how frightening it is.

0:34:290:34:33

But I went there and came back.

0:34:330:34:35

'Coming back would eventually mean three more weddings.

0:34:350:34:39

'One, a short-lived reunion with Elizabeth Taylor,

0:34:390:34:43

'and then to Susan Hunt and finally to Sally Hay.

0:34:430:34:47

'Coming back also meant some notable career successes.

0:34:470:34:52

'Equus earned Burton rave reviews on the stage,

0:34:520:34:56

'and his role in the movie version that followed won him a Golden Globe.

0:34:560:35:01

'He narrated the smash hit that was Jeff Wayne's War Of The Worlds

0:35:010:35:06

'and scored a huge box office hit with the film The Wild Geese.

0:35:060:35:10

'In fact, in spite of his health problems,

0:35:100:35:13

'he found it impossible to stop working,

0:35:130:35:16

'as he explained in a documentary in 1983.'

0:35:160:35:20

Once, Elizabeth said, "It would be a good idea if you took a year off,

0:35:200:35:25

"because you never stop." She's only done 30-something films.

0:35:250:35:29

35 films.

0:35:290:35:31

And she's been a star since she was eight.

0:35:310:35:34

And... But she takes time off.

0:35:340:35:37

I never have.

0:35:370:35:39

I've done the most utter rubbish,

0:35:390:35:41

in order to have somewhere to go in the morning.

0:35:410:35:44

So she said, "Take a year off."

0:35:460:35:49

I said, "OK." We had a lovely house in Mexico, sunny, everything.

0:35:490:35:53

I lasted five weeks.

0:35:530:35:55

I was off. I did a film.

0:35:570:35:59

CHUCKLING: I won't bother to tell you about it.

0:35:590:36:02

INTERVIEWER: Ah, come on. Let's hear it.

0:36:020:36:05

A man came to see me and he said,

0:36:050:36:07

AMERICAN ACCENT: "We've got a lot of wastage on the floor

0:36:070:36:11

"out of a film called Tobruk."

0:36:110:36:14

I said, "Oh, have you?"

0:36:140:36:17

He said, "It made six million bucks."

0:36:170:36:20

I said, "Did it? Who's in it?"

0:36:200:36:23

He said, "Rock Hudson and... George Peppard."

0:36:230:36:27

He said, "What I did was, I picked up all these bits off the floor.

0:36:280:36:34

"I put them all together and I got all the writers in."

0:36:340:36:37

It was Universal Studios.

0:36:370:36:39

Universal Studios is still run like the old studios were,

0:36:390:36:43

with a big boss and all that.

0:36:430:36:45

"So I said to the ten writers,

0:36:450:36:47

"make outta this, make a script so we can use the long shots

0:36:470:36:53

"and use Burton in the close-ups."

0:36:530:36:56

And they did it. And they made a do-able film!

0:36:560:36:59

I was so fascinated, I couldn't resist it.

0:36:590:37:02

We went off and we shot the film

0:37:020:37:04

in three weeks and two days or something.

0:37:040:37:08

The film went out and was successful.

0:37:080:37:11

It's called Raid On Rommel.

0:37:110:37:14

All the long shots, it's Rock Hudson

0:37:140:37:17

and all the close-ups, it's an Englishman called Green.

0:37:170:37:21

And all the long shots, it's George Peppard

0:37:210:37:24

and all the close-ups it's me.

0:37:240:37:26

One year, I earned $8 million.

0:37:260:37:30

For one film.

0:37:320:37:34

I got paid a million for the film and the film was so successful

0:37:340:37:39

that another seven million came in.

0:37:390:37:42

I remember getting a cheque just before Christmas,

0:37:420:37:46

about three days before Christmas, for $1 million.

0:37:460:37:50

Which added to the rest.

0:37:510:37:54

And it's not that I'm frightened of the money or anything like that.

0:37:560:38:00

It's not my province. I give it away.

0:38:000:38:04

I give it to my family

0:38:040:38:07

or I buy enormous presents for Elizabeth Taylor.

0:38:070:38:12

Or did. Or for Susan.

0:38:120:38:15

Or for Sally -

0:38:150:38:17

who's the next one up.

0:38:170:38:20

I just, I cannot hold on to it.

0:38:210:38:23

I hold on to a little piece of property

0:38:230:38:27

with a roof on the house and that's all.

0:38:270:38:30

What's the worst film you've made? I don't know.

0:38:300:38:34

I made some lousy ones in my time.

0:38:340:38:36

I always start off - not that one - with very good intentions.

0:38:360:38:41

The script seems very good,

0:38:410:38:43

the director has a tremendous reputation.

0:38:430:38:46

The producer's a good producer.

0:38:460:38:49

You start off and you suddenly realise, after two weeks,

0:38:490:38:53

you're in a piece of rubbish and there's nothing you can do about it.

0:38:530:38:57

In a play... Oddly enough,

0:38:570:38:59

I've done almost exactly the same number of plays as I've done films.

0:38:590:39:04

In a play, I've only had one really, real failure.

0:39:040:39:09

Which was, er...in New York.

0:39:100:39:13

We only ran for two weeks or something like that.

0:39:130:39:17

And a good play, too, by Anouilh.

0:39:170:39:19

I think it was misdirected and miscast.

0:39:190:39:23

And I don't think I was very good and all that.

0:39:230:39:26

But whether that is the fact that you, yourself, can change a play

0:39:260:39:33

without benefit of director, as long as you've got a good lighting man,

0:39:330:39:38

we light the damn thing properly, and good actors around you,

0:39:380:39:43

you can actually do things with an indifferent piece

0:39:430:39:47

which you can't do with a film.

0:39:470:39:50

I've never thought much of myself as an actor.

0:39:500:39:53

I don't mean to be mock modest.

0:39:540:39:57

At the same time,

0:39:570:40:00

I don't think there's been any particularly successful thing

0:40:000:40:05

that I've ever done, that one particular one,

0:40:050:40:09

that gave me any...

0:40:090:40:11

..special pleasure.

0:40:140:40:16

I think the fact that I was able to take care

0:40:160:40:19

of a certain amount of people has given me SOME pleasure.

0:40:190:40:24

The fact that I had the power to do it.

0:40:240:40:26

But then, there are some people, maybe three or four in the world -

0:40:260:40:32

outside my family - whom I love.

0:40:320:40:35

You know, I trust them with my life.

0:40:350:40:37

And have had to, sometimes.

0:40:370:40:39

And all the things, the troubles that they've gone through,

0:40:390:40:43

you can imagine, as a result of the enormous publicity I've had,

0:40:430:40:48

never once have they ever...worried me about it,

0:40:480:40:53

or said, "Stop doing this," "Stop doing that,"

0:40:530:40:56

or "You're being a bad boy."

0:40:560:40:59

They've been terribly good with me, always.

0:40:590:41:02

They're a marvellous family.

0:41:020:41:04

Apart from my family and two or three other people,

0:41:040:41:07

there are very few people I would trust.

0:41:070:41:10

With anything.

0:41:100:41:11

'This was Richard Burton's last interview for the BBC.

0:41:120:41:17

'His final role, for which he was critically acclaimed,

0:41:170:41:20

'was as the menacing O'Brien in the movie of George Orwell's 1984,

0:41:200:41:26

'in which he co-starred with John Hurt.

0:41:260:41:30

'Two months before the film premiere,

0:41:300:41:32

'Burton suffered a brain haemorrhage and died at home in Switzerland.

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'He was 58.

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'In the obituaries, one of the most quoted anecdotes

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'was his response to a telegram he received from Sir Laurence Olivier

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'that said, "Make up your mind, dear heart.

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'"Do you want to be a great actor or a household word?"

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'Burton's answer was immediate.

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'He simply said, "Both."

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