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The great directors are those whose names on the credits excite

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you just as much as the presence of an Oscar-laden star.

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They were the pioneers of cinema.

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Makers of movie history. Here we open a treasure chest

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of interviews with some of the titans of Hollywood's golden age.

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Joining them as they discuss their

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careers, the people they worked with and how they got started

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as directors in the first place.

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Kicking off our illustrious list,

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the man behind Ben Hur, a director

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renowned for his perfectionism and versatility,

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William Wyler.

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How did you begin? Did you begin as a...

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-Begin directing, you mean??

-Did you begin as a director?

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-Oh, Lord, no.

-I was going to say.

-I sort of went

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through the mill.

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It was... In those days...

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You know, you sort of learned an apprenticeship.

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And the Universal studio

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was sort of a school for directors,

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actors, writers.

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And I just went through everything. I started

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sweeping floors and washing dishes and sort of everything. I went

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through every department, cutting room, sort of learning the business.

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And...

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Finally, I was given an opportunity. It was easier

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in those days than today, because the company was making a great many,

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very cheap films.

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Little Westerns, two-reel Westerns, they were called.

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And...any young man of ambition at that time

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would sooner or later get an opportunity to do one.

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The risk for the company was very small.

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Sidney Lumet, master of the gritty movie drama,

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got his break in television, thanks to a very familiar face.

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'A friend of mine, Yul Brynner,

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'was directing at CBS. This was in the early days of television.

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'And he called me one day because I

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'had no dough.'

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And this was before King And I. We had literally

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been sharing spaghetti plates. Canned spaghetti together.

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And he called, he said, "Come on in. Nobody knows

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"what they're doing here, this is great, you can get away with murder."

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And I came into TV as his assistant.

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As his AD.

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And then when Yul left to do King And I, I took over the show.

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I was doing two live shows a week.

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A melodrama called Danger.

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And a wonderful show called You Are There, which was...

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I know it sounds ridiculous, but really worked, it was covering any kind of

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historical, all sorts of historical events with modern news techniques.

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So we would be there at Caesar's assassination and

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a correspondent would break in and say, "Brutus, just a few words, please."

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The director Frank Capra famously went through a rags to riches story

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worthy of one of his films.

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With no job or money, he just bluffed his way into the business.

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I was in San Francisco one time

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and I saw an ad in the paper, or a write-up in the paper, that somebody

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was starting a new motion picture company at Golden Gate Park,

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to make some kind of films, I didn't know what they were talking about,

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really. But something new was starting.

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And... I... I was locked outside of my hotel room and I couldn't get into

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-my clothes. I had to do something.

-You mean because you couldn't pay?

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I couldn't pay, that's right. So I was pretty desperate, so I

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walked to... And I was kind of a cocky kid, I thought I could

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make my way around. So I went out to see this man and I find an

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old Shakespearean actor there.

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Who was going to do these things.

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And I introduced myself as Frank Capra from Hollywood, which

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was true. My home was Los Angeles, I had never been into a studio.

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Well, he nearly fell over. I mean, when I mentioned

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Hollywood. And he opened the doors and he brought me in, and I didn't

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disabuse his mind.

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So I started helping him make this first picture of his,

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and gradually I took over from him because...

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it was the blind leading the blind, but I was younger. You see, so the

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younger blind man... So, I took over and made this first picture for him.

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I'm a disappointed musician, you see. I wanted to be a conductor.

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And too late I discovered I had a tin ear,

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I couldn't hear music very well.

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And at that point I didn't know what to do, and I started

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to study law.

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Which bored me very much. And instead of going to lectures,

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I used to go to movies.

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And I saw a few films, such as

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Potemkin and a few others, which I thought were extraordinary.

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And from that I developed a great unlikely idea of wanting to

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become a movie director. And sitting in Vienna in those days,

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wanting to be a movie director, was totally outlandish.

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But somehow it worked out.

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I knew right away the first time I peeked through the eye piece

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of that camera...and saw these actors and bums

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that I had rounded up from the waterfront.

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I got such a thrill that...

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I still get the same thrill every time I look through the eyepiece

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of a camera. And that's my start. I knew I had found something.

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-The bug had really bit you, in other words?

-It bit me all over,

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I was just all sores.

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But it wasn't a labour of love for all.

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Witness legendary Western director John Ford.

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-When did you come to America?

-I was born here.

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What sort of a childhood did you have? Were you interested in

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movies way back?

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Not really, not interested in them now, actually.

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But it's a way of making a living.

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All our master directors needed special skills

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to reach the top of their careers. Amongst them an ability to

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think fast and not get fazed by unexpected challenges.

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Expanding on that theme first is Howard Hawks,

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here talking about the Cary Grant comedy

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I Was A Male War Bride.

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We made a scene one day with Cary.

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He had to take an examination, he was marrying...

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He was a French officer marrying Ann Sheridan, who was in

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the American army, and he had to answer the questions that were

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designed for the little French girl

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who was going to marry a GI, so

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they had to ask him how many times he'd been pregnant and did

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he have a lot of women troubles and things like that, and a

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scene we thought that was going to be very funny

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was not amusing

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until we found out that...

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..the man who was going to be

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embarrassed about the questions was the American sergeant asking it,

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and that Cary was having fun about it. And the moment we did that,

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it became a really funny scene.

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I tell you, there isn't another

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-form.

-I told you first.

-This form isn't for a man, it's for a woman!

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Uh-huh.

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However, if don't get this form filled and approved, you can't go.

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-That's right.

-You mean, I've got to

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-use this form?

-Sergeant, I felt the same way you do, but if that's

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the only form, come on, let's fill it out.

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Well, let's see.

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Age and birthplace, we've got all that.

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Here's the first one. Are you an expectant mother?

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Uh-huh.

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Yes.

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How many months?

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20.

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20. 20 months.

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Any...

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Any female trouble?

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Nothing but, Sergeant. Hmm!

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And...

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..have you ever had any children before?

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Oh, my aching back. You know that awful feeling before

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-breakfast?

-No, Captain, I don't.

-Oh, Sergeant, you're lucky.

-Captain,

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-this doesn't make any sense!

-I know, I know, but come on, we've

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got to fill it out. Ask me another, there's some good ones coming up.

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On the 1931 film Dirigible,

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Frank Capra needed an inspired idea

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to make it look as though the cast were at the South Pole.

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-How did you achieve the dry ice, the breathing effect?

-Well, I

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always had a feeling about believability. We were... We had

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some scenes on the South Pole with Dirigible.

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We had this thing in San Diego, with the valley, very warm, about 90, we were in August.

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And we had this grand

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three acres of expansive salt, snow

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and some rocks and backing, painted backing.

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It didn't look like the South Pole to me,

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and I kept on wondering, "What was wrong here?"

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And it suddenly hit me, the breath wasn't showing on everybody.

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Well, how can I get the breath to show? I went back to Caltech,

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to some of my professionals, and said, "How can I get the breath to show on people?"

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One of them said, "Dry ice, dry ice in the mouth."

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So I went to a dentist, I had some little cages built. And I put a little...

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peel of dry ice in the cage, and the cage stuck to the palate of the...

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the roof of actor's mouth. Then they'd talked like this.

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If Demosthenes could talk with rocks, my actors would have to talk with cages in them.

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With 12 Angry Men, Sidney Lumet had a film that was mostly set

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in a single room. But he decided

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not to look on this as a problem.

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It never occurred to me that was difficult to do, to do all the movie in one room.

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You know, you come in with a certain arrogance

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when you're young.

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I had worked out a real camera attack, I knew that the...

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..the way to do it was to turn what was seemingly a disadvantage into an

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advantage, so as a matter of fact, as the movie went on over the body

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of the movie, I made the room smaller. The lenses got

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longer and longer so the walls kept pulling in closer and closer.

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The camera kept dropping, dropping, dropping, so finally the ceiling was right over their heads.

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So that actually the whole piece kept contracting.

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And dramatically that's what the movie was about.

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And it was a movie.

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Well?

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Say something!

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You lousy bunch of bleeding hearts.

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You're not going to intimidate me, I'm entitled to my opinion.

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Rotten kids, you work your life out!

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No.

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Not guilty.

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HE SOBS

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Not guilty.

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HE SOBS

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It's been said that great directors always have a distinctive style

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that they stamp on any film, be it drama, musical or comedy.

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Our line-up of interviewees don't always back that theory.

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Starting with the man behind Some Like It Hot, Billy Wilder.

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Here are three of the finest giving their take on their own style.

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But there is no...

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..uh...

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..cohesive Wilder style because I make

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-all kinds of different pictures.

-Except, I think you did once

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-say you like to mix a little vinegar in the cocktail.

-Whatever I do,

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of course, it is never going to be wildly sentimental,

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and whatever little thing I would like to say

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which makes them talk about it, 15 minutes after the picture is over...

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..nothing bombastic,

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nothing earthshaking. But still if they talk about it, and if I

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can sell a kind of...

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..a thing that makes them...

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..stay with it and discuss.

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No solution, mind you, but an interesting question that

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is said of the picture. That is highly rewarding.

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If I'm conscious of style, I am going to be tied up in a knot.

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You know, like a pretzel.

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So I decided...

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..to do it the way I felt it without

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really understanding why I was doing it, and to please no-one but myself.

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In other words, I don't make pictures for children,

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I don't make pictures for Jews,

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I certainly don't make them for producers.

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I make them for myself. And when the day dawns that...

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..people don't go to see my movies, then I'm through.

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But I can't work under restrictions, so that the result is...

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..having spent so many years in montage...

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..my style became taut. And having

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done hundreds and hundreds of second units...

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And second units, basically, means that you're

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doing the action sequences.

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Action sequences presented no problems for me,

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no fear, we'll say, because I had done so many of them.

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And so my action became, perhaps,

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horrific, but very quick.

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I didn't linger on it, like Sam Peckinpah had done.

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Do you plan your films very carefully in advance,

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or are you one of those directors who likes to

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improvise on the set, wait until you have the

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materials in your hand before you decide on what you want to do?

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No, I like to know pretty clearly what the thing's about.

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I like to have a skeleton that's functioning, but I do like

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to keep it open beyond that, so I can improvise to the maximum extent.

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I don't want to plan it to the point where everything is crystallised.

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If you see what I mean.

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Yes, you wouldn't favour the sort of Hitchcock approach, which is

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to make an almost total blueprint of the film, going on the studio

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is simply the working out of an exactly conceived plan?

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I admire the approach, but I couldn't do it.

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I think everybody has his own way of doing...

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I admire the people who can do total improvisations.

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I couldn't do that either.

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Directors run the show,

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but actors are of course the ones up on the big screen.

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And an ability to spot the stars was vital to all the greats.

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Discussing this first, the legendary Cecil B DeMille.

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I believe Gary Cooper described you as the man who puts

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stardust on stars.

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Now, where did you find the stars, in those early days?

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Well, you found them about the same way you do now.

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You find stars wherever they grow. You see little things...

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I saw Gloria Swanson in a Mack Sennett comedy.

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I spotted Bebe Daniels in...some place or other. I've forgotten.

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When it came to Westerns, the discovery of the genre's

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biggest star was down to the genre's greatest director, John Ford.

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How did you first strike up your lifelong association with

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John Wayne?

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He was my third assistant prop man.

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Then he became a second prop man.

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He finally worked himself up to prop man.

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And we started to do Stagecoach and everybody turned it down.

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I had to peddle it around.

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And finally, Walter Wanger, he says, "Well, you got to pick... A Western?

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"Go ahead and do it," he said.

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He said, "Who do you want to use for a lead?" I says,

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"I've got a kid here. He's just out of college.

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"I've used him in several bits and he's very good.

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"Big, tall, handsome guy.

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"And I'd like to make a test of him to show it to you."

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He said, "Well, if you say he's OK, go ahead.

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"I'd make the test." So, I'll make the test and he said,

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"Yeah, go ahead, great."

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So, Walter went off to Europe and we made the picture,

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with Duke, and that sort of started him off.

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I asked me to marry me, didn't I?

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I'll never forget you asked me, Kid.

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That's somethin'.

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Wait here.

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Like John Wayne, Lauren Bacall

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was one of cinema's most inspired discoveries.

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Here's Howard Hawks explaining how she was cast in his classic

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To Have And Have Not.

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How did you discover Bacall?

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Oh, my secretary made a mistake

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and brought her out from New York, rather than...

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I asked her to find out about her.

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Her schooling, background, what experience she had.

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She brought her out.

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Sent her a ticket. And um...

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The girl just seemed to have the faculty of doing everything right.

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She worked very, very hard and so we put her in the picture.

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'The Bacall character developed because of an idea that we

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'had of making a girl as insolent on the screen as Bogart was.'

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He was probably the most insolent man on the screen.

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And we thought it would be fun to make a girl insolent

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and Bacall was...a very...good choice for such a thing.

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She could insult somebody without making them angry.

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Won't Frenchie help you out, without you having to do that?

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I don't want his help.

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Don't do it, will you, Steve?

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-Didn't you ask me...?

-Don't do it.

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Why don't you take this bottle and go to bed?

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Here, can you use this?

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I thought you said you were broke.

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You're good.

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You're awful good.

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I'd walk home, if it wasn't for all that water.

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Who was the girl, Steve?

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Who was what girl?

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The one who left you with such a high opinion of women.

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She must have been quite a gal.

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You think I lied to you about this, don't you?

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Well, it just happens there's 30-odd dollars here.

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Not enough for boat fare or any other kind of fare.

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Just enough to be able to say no if I feel like it.

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And you can have it if you want it.

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I'm sorry, Slim.

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-But I still say you're awful good and I wouldn't...

-Oh, I forgot.

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-You wouldn't take anything from anybody, would you?

-That's right.

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You know, Steve?

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You're not very hard to figure.

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Only at times.

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Sometimes, I know exactly what you're going to say.

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Most of the time.

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The other times...

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The other times, you're just a stinker.

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What did you do that for?

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Been wondering whether I'd like it.

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What's the decision?

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I don't know yet.

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It's even better when you help.

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Sure you won't change your mind about this?

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-Uh-huh.

-This belongs to me and so do my lips. I don't see any difference.

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I do.

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OK.

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You know you don't have to act with me, Steve.

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You don't have to say anything and you don't have to do anything.

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Not a thing.

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Oh, maybe just whistle.

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You know how to whistle, don't you, Steve?

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You just put your lips together and...blow.

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HE WOLF WHISTLES SLOWLY

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Once they'd found the stars, our great directors had to know

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how to get the best out of them, the best performances.

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It was all about how they handled the actors.

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First up on the subject, George Cukor, telling Barry Norman about

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directing two Hollywood legends, Greta Garbo and Marilyn Monroe.

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You make a climate in which they feel sure of themselves

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and they trust your judgment,

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you have the enormous advantage of seeing things,

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and you're not always right,

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and you make them feel sincerely

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that they're brilliant,

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but Garbo was very disciplined and absolutely charming to work with.

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She was rigid about certain things, very practically.

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She knew that if she worked longer, she was rather nervous,

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she wouldn't sleep.

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She was modest and funny.

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And... And stubborn, in a way, but never about her work.

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One of the legendary Hollywood actresses that you directed

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is Marilyn Monroe, and you say in your book, to Gavin Lambert,

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that you feel that she was mad and she wasn't, in fact,

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destroyed by Hollywood. Was she, in fact, mad?

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She was an extremely complicated creature. She was intelligent.

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She was unhappy. She... You couldn't very close to her.

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And she was very nervous.

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The proof of it is that the poor darling killed herself.

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So, she was...

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She didn't really trust her talent

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because she was very gifted,

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she played comedy very well and she would do all kinds of studying,

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when she really needn't have studied because...

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Not that studying isn't right,

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but she was so much more skilful than anybody could possibly teach her.

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She was a natural actress with enormous individuality

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and she knew what she was doing.

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The performance of Laurence Olivier, I think

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you had a great influence on Olivier's career.

0:22:480:22:51

Well, I like to think that also,

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but...I must say that...Sir Laurence is,

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as everyone here knows,

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is a superb actor, perhaps the greatest in the world,

0:23:020:23:07

with or without me.

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But do you like working with stage actors?

0:23:090:23:13

-Now, he was really a stage actor...

-Yes, he was.

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At that time, I think he'd done very few films and in fact,

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wasn't too fond of them.

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-No.

-Er...

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I like very much working with professional actors who

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know their craft,

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whether they're from the stage or films.

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But I don't believe in amateur actors.

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I believe acting is something one has to learn.

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One has to have a talent for it first and...

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But even that isn't sufficient. I think one has to learn the technique.

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Would you say you were hard on your actors,

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or do you get your results with kindness and friendship?

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Well, I don't know. Human beings...

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As I say, all I know is anybody who has ever worked with me

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is always anxious to come back and work with me again.

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I never stand behind the camera and yell directions.

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I go up and I speak to each actor individually,

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so the others don't hear.

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And everything is thoroughly rehearsed

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and I try to get the first take.

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And...

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Directors being hard on actors,

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those directors don't usually last very long in pictures.

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But it's not just actors that our interviewees had to deal with.

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Relationships with movie studio bosses were always

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just as important.

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First again on the subject is George Cukor,

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once famously fired as director of Gone With The Wind.

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Of course, the most famous picture you were removed from was

0:24:570:25:01

Gone With The Wind.

0:25:010:25:02

It's said that Clark Gable felt you were paying too much attention to

0:25:020:25:06

Vivien Leigh and Olivia de Havilland at his expense and that you

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objected to the way Selznick came on the set to supervise the shooting.

0:25:090:25:13

Would you like to tell me about your so-called rift with Selznick

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and why you only shot two or three scenes, including the famous

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burning of Atlanta and were then reportedly fired off the film?

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I was fired, indeed. I shot more than that. I shot... I'm not bragging.

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I shot, I think, the first one or two reels.

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I really honestly don't know.

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I prepared it for a year, I made the test...

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I think David Selznick probably didn't think I was doing it...

0:25:380:25:42

I really... It's a great mystery and it's something very interesting,

0:25:420:25:46

it was not the pleasantest subject, it's all now being revived

0:25:460:25:49

and I honestly have forgotten somebody asked me a question

0:25:490:25:52

and I called up Irene Selznick, who was his wife, and I said,

0:25:520:25:55

"Really, what did happen at that scene?" And she explained to me.

0:25:550:25:58

I said, "Oh, did it, really?"

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And it's something very remote and the sum total is that

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I ended up remaining great friends with David Selznick.

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I think he was very nervous, very concerned about the picture

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and, right or wrong, he probably thought I wasn't doing it right.

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I tell you what is extraordinary, that I was fired from that picture

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and that here I am to tell the tale, still working.

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Howard Hawks didn't mind producers,

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just as long as they knew their place.

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Have you ever had the experience of a creative producer who actually was

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useful in giving advice, but staying out of the way when necessary?

0:26:350:26:40

No, not that I can remember. Oh, I have had instances of...

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Where they bought the story...

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and saw...a good picture in there.

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Jesse Lasky gave me my first job.

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He bought Sergeant York.

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I made it because...he gave me my first job.

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Cooper made it because Lasky gave him his first job.

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I told Cooper, "I don't think we can do any harm to

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"ourselves by making it.

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Cooper says, "What's the use in arguing about it?

0:27:170:27:21

"We're going to do it, aren't we?" And I said, "Yeah."

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But I said, "But you come on over with me while we talk to Warner.

0:27:240:27:29

"If I say it's not right, Mr Cooper, you say yup."

0:27:290:27:32

So I said, "We'll make this picture if you let us alone.

0:27:320:27:35

"Isn't that right, Mr Cooper?" He said, "Yup."

0:27:350:27:37

"And if you don't let us alone, you're going

0:27:370:27:39

"to be in a lot of trouble. Isn't that right, Mr Cooper?" He said,

0:27:390:27:43

"Yes." So, we made it and Lasky,

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who was broke at the time, made a couple of million dollars

0:27:450:27:48

and Cooper got an Academy Award and I felt very good about it,

0:27:480:27:51

so we had a great time.

0:27:510:27:53

And now, here's Don Siegel,

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on dealing with the interference from studio executives, who

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he compares with alien pods from his film Invasion Of The Body Snatchers.

0:28:000:28:07

The pods are people that can control the studio.

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Naturally, they gave it the world's worst title -

0:28:120:28:15

The Invasion Of The Body Snatchers. That was number one.

0:28:150:28:18

That was when we knew we were dead there.

0:28:180:28:21

Anyway, we shot the picture.

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Very exciting picture, I think, because unlike most science

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and fiction films,

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that devote thousands and thousands

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and thousands and hundreds of thousands of dollars,

0:28:370:28:41

if you will, on special effects, Walter

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and I agreed that we felt that the effects were not that important,

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plus the fact that I'd had seven years in special effects,

0:28:490:28:52

so I wasn't worried about that end of it,

0:28:520:28:55

and we would stick real people in front of our special effects

0:28:550:29:01

and really get inside our people and tell a real story.

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But the pods...

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By the pods, I mean, not my producer Walter Wanger,

0:29:080:29:13

but the people who own the studio, Allied Artists.

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They had rules and regulations.

0:29:170:29:20

For instance, their rule was that no science fiction can have humour.

0:29:200:29:25

There's a great deal of humour in the picture.

0:29:250:29:29

So, they took out all the humour.

0:29:290:29:31

Then they were afraid that it wasn't clear, so they made me

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shoot a prologue and an epilogue, which had absolutely nothing

0:29:360:29:41

to do with the picture, as far as I was concerned.

0:29:410:29:44

I thought it was very stupid.

0:29:440:29:45

Walter Wanger thought it was very stupid.

0:29:450:29:48

We fought against it and when we lost, Walter said,

0:29:480:29:51

"Please shoot it because if you don't, somebody else will

0:29:510:29:55

"and at least, you'll keep the form," so I shot it, against my will.

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That's part of working in Hollywood, I guess.

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The picture previously ended as dramatically as any picture,

0:30:030:30:09

at least, that I've ever done.

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Where Kevin McCarthy whirls to the audience

0:30:110:30:14

and points his finger at the camera and says, "You're next!"

0:30:140:30:18

Hey! Stop! Pull over! Pull over to the side of the road!

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-I need your help. Something terrible has happened.

-Go on, you're drunk!

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Get out of the street! Get out of here! Go on!

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HORN BEEPS

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You crazy?! You idiot!

0:30:400:30:43

You fools! You're in danger! They're after you! They're after all of us!

0:30:430:30:50

Our wives, our children, everyone!

0:30:500:30:52

They're here already! You're next!

0:30:520:30:56

That's the moment Siegel wanted to end on.

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And here's how the ending he was forced to add begins.

0:31:010:31:05

Siegel clearly wasn't happy.

0:31:050:31:08

And often, directors are the most vocal critics of their own work.

0:31:090:31:14

Take Billy Wilder, for starters.

0:31:140:31:16

Which are the favourites, your own favourites,

0:31:160:31:19

among all the films you've made?

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Well, I don't look at the old ones, ever, no matter what.

0:31:210:31:24

-But I kind of think that...

-No, I'd heard that.

0:31:240:31:27

Why won't you look at your old films?

0:31:270:31:29

I see the mistakes and I'd like to hurry it up, I would like

0:31:290:31:32

to recast it, I would... You know, you cannot do that any more.

0:31:320:31:35

But it's just...

0:31:350:31:37

I don't have eight or 16mm prints of my pictures in my cellar.

0:31:370:31:41

I don't invite my friends. I just... I'm... I just don't like it.

0:31:410:31:46

I don't like it very much.

0:31:460:31:48

Maybe... Maybe if the best picture, since you asked me...

0:31:480:31:52

The picture I liked the best maybe was an early picture of mine,

0:31:520:31:56

Double Indemnity. Maybe that's the one I kind of like the best and...

0:31:560:32:00

There were moments in Some Like It Hot that I thought were good,

0:32:000:32:04

in Sunset, that were quite good.

0:32:040:32:06

I was very pleased to see an interview with...

0:32:060:32:11

Agatha Christie who said that the best picture made of her material

0:32:110:32:17

was a picture I had done, Witness For The Prosecution.

0:32:170:32:20

That was before Orient Express.

0:32:200:32:23

And I was very pleased about that. But...

0:32:230:32:27

There are good five minutes here and ten minutes there.

0:32:290:32:33

In other words, if...some day they do a retrospective of my pictures

0:32:330:32:38

and they can get it all into like...45 minutes of film...

0:32:380:32:45

Two minutes from that and ten minutes from that

0:32:450:32:48

and three minutes of here... That would make me very happy.

0:32:480:32:50

That, I will look at.

0:32:500:32:52

And now, John Ford,

0:32:520:32:54

on an approach that helped bring about one of his favourite films.

0:32:540:32:58

I think one trouble as a director in this country,

0:32:580:33:02

and I think one of the troubles directors universally is...

0:33:020:33:09

They'll make a big picture, probably a hit,

0:33:090:33:12

and then they try to top it and usually fall flat on their face.

0:33:120:33:18

It happens here a lot and I know it happens with you.

0:33:180:33:22

So, I try and make it a rule,

0:33:220:33:25

if you make a big picture which is a hit, the next one,

0:33:250:33:28

do a cheap picture, relax, I mean, three or four weeks,

0:33:280:33:33

while you're preparing for another story.

0:33:330:33:36

And usually, of course, I mean, to my mind,

0:33:360:33:39

the little picture is always better.

0:33:390:33:41

You see, my favourite picture, for example,

0:33:410:33:44

is one you'd never of heard of called The Sun Shines Bright.

0:33:440:33:49

-Have you?

-Great!

-Huh?

-Judge Billy Priest.

0:33:490:33:53

-Yeah.

-Beautiful. Beautiful!

-Well, that's my favourite picture.

0:33:530:33:56

-For Republic.

-That's right.

0:33:560:33:59

Well, we'd just made The Quiet Man, which was a big hit,

0:33:590:34:03

so I wanted to change, sort of...

0:34:030:34:07

Just do something else and we did this and I loved it.

0:34:070:34:10

I had a lot of fun doing it.

0:34:100:34:13

Frank Capra had been happy with his films, but success had

0:34:130:34:17

a surprising effect upon him, until one thought provoking encounter.

0:34:170:34:22

The film It Happened One Night won five Academy Awards.

0:34:220:34:25

Did that kind of recognition make you feel more

0:34:250:34:28

secure in the industry,

0:34:280:34:29

or more anxious about your ability to live up to your reputation?

0:34:290:34:33

Those five awards nearly killed me. I mean...

0:34:330:34:36

You know, you shake the Oscar tree when you get the five major awards.

0:34:360:34:39

What are you going to do for an encore?

0:34:390:34:42

This was my problem and I got it so early in my life, you see?

0:34:420:34:46

And I really... Nothing I could...

0:34:460:34:48

I'd read all kinds of things, but everything seemed very trivial

0:34:480:34:51

and puerile after that.

0:34:510:34:54

There was no... How could I make another picture? And so, I choked up.

0:34:540:34:57

And I feigned sickness,

0:34:580:35:02

not to make any more pictures. I was just going to quit for a while.

0:35:020:35:05

I was actually afraid to make another film.

0:35:050:35:09

This hits everybody.

0:35:090:35:10

After you have one big successful hit,

0:35:100:35:13

your next picture is really a problem.

0:35:130:35:16

And...

0:35:160:35:18

So, I feigned sickness, but in feigning sickness, I became sick

0:35:180:35:21

and I was really about to die when a friend of mine brought in...

0:35:210:35:27

A very faceless little man who came in and said to me,

0:35:270:35:31

"Mr Capra, you're a coward." And I said, "A coward?

0:35:310:35:35

"I'm sick!" And he said, "No, you're a coward.

0:35:350:35:37

"You were given certain gifts and you're not using them."

0:35:370:35:41

And Hitler was in the... His voice was rasping out of another room.

0:35:410:35:46

-Hitler?

-Yeah, you know. And he said, "That man in there is...

0:35:460:35:52

"What can he reach? How many can he reach? 10-20 million?

0:35:520:35:57

"For maybe ten minutes? 20 minutes?

0:35:570:35:59

"You have been given the gift to reach hundreds of millions

0:35:590:36:02

"and for two hours, and in the dark.

0:36:020:36:05

"He's selling his poison, you've got other gifts, to sell other things.

0:36:050:36:08

"You're a coward.

0:36:080:36:10

"You're an offence to God and you're an offence to humanity."

0:36:100:36:13

And he just got up and left.

0:36:130:36:16

Out of that, came, I think, Mr Deeds,

0:36:160:36:18

which was the first of a long series of... It's a bad word,

0:36:180:36:22

but what I can call for brevity's sake "integrity pictures".

0:36:220:36:25

What was your personal philosophy motivating the theme of these films?

0:36:250:36:30

Mr Deeds Goes To Town was the first picture that

0:36:300:36:32

I ever deliberately tried to say something

0:36:320:36:35

and what I was trying to say was that the value of the individual,

0:36:350:36:40

the divinity and the worth of the individual

0:36:400:36:42

is against the conforming heart

0:36:420:36:46

and how the individual had it within him to dig deep down

0:36:460:36:51

into his innermost recesses

0:36:510:36:55

and come up with the necessary wit and humour

0:36:550:36:57

and courage to cope with his environment.

0:36:570:37:00

This was the problem... This is the theme of Mr Deeds.

0:37:000:37:03

Probably the theme of most...

0:37:030:37:05

-Practically all the other pictures I've made after that.

-Yes.

0:37:050:37:09

Personally, I don't know what Mr Cedar's raving about.

0:37:090:37:12

From what I can see, no matter what system of government we have,

0:37:120:37:15

there'll always be leaders and always be followers.

0:37:150:37:18

It's like the road out in front of my house. It's on a steep hill.

0:37:180:37:21

Every day, I watch the cars climbing it.

0:37:210:37:23

Some go lickety-split up that hill on high, some have to

0:37:230:37:26

shift into second, and some splutter and shake back to the bottom again.

0:37:260:37:29

Same cars, same gasoline, yet some make it and some don't.

0:37:290:37:33

And I say, the fellas who can make the hill on high should stop

0:37:330:37:35

once in a while and stop those who can't.

0:37:350:37:38

That's all I'm trying to do with this money, help the fellas who can't make the hill on high.

0:37:380:37:42

What does Mr Cedar expect me to do with it? Give it to him and a lot of other people who don't need it?

0:37:420:37:46

If you don't mind, Your Honour, I'll ride on those top waves for a minute.

0:37:460:37:49

Hey, all you fellas up there! All those who applied for a farm, stand up.

0:37:490:37:53

See all those fellas? They're the ones I'm trying to help.

0:37:550:37:58

They need it. Mr Cedar and that Mr Semple don't need anything.

0:37:580:38:01

They've got plenty. It's like I'm out in a big boat

0:38:010:38:04

and I see one fella in a row boat who is tired of rowing

0:38:040:38:07

and wants a free ride and another fella who is drowning. Who would you expect me to rescue?

0:38:070:38:10

Mr Cedar, who is just tired of rowing and wants a free ride,

0:38:100:38:13

or those men out there who are drowning?

0:38:130:38:15

Any ten-year-old child will give you the answer to that. All right, fellas. Thank you. Sit down.

0:38:150:38:21

Capra became motivated by the desire to be thought-provoking.

0:38:210:38:26

The motivation for others varied.

0:38:260:38:29

But were there any common threads that helped one

0:38:290:38:32

flourish as a director in Hollywood's golden age?

0:38:320:38:35

What is a director, then? Is he an artist? Is he a craftsman?

0:38:350:38:39

Or a guy trying to earn an honest living, or what?

0:38:390:38:42

I think he's all of that. I think he is an artist. He should be.

0:38:420:38:48

And he should have his own very deep feelings about something.

0:38:480:38:52

And I think he has to be a craftsman

0:38:520:38:54

because it's always a technical thing.

0:38:540:38:58

And then, I hope that he makes money!

0:38:580:39:00

I won't take that billing of a Sidney Lumet film or

0:39:000:39:03

a film by Sidney Lumet. It's the dumbest thing in the world.

0:39:030:39:07

I'm dependent... If we were out shooting today, we'd be dependent on the sun, the clouds.

0:39:070:39:12

It's...

0:39:120:39:15

And my job is to get the best out of everybody working on it and

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make sure that we are all literally going in the same direction.

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That's why I'm called a director.

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I don't think that there is an outstanding director,

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who is not basically a damn good film writer.

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The outstanding director makes it his business, has to in fact,

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start from the beginning and see that the script

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contains the elements that he then will make...

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From which he then will make his film.

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All film directors do, as a breed...

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Film directors are stubborn and tenacious and unwavering

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and as a matter of a fact,

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Willy Wilder was one of the best directors in Hollywood, always...

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When I first started directing, he gave me some advice.

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He said, "Never be a nice guy."

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He said, "Everyone wants to go home at 5.30.

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"Everyone sort of wants to make things nice."

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And he spoke about the sort of good fellowship

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and the coffee breaks and everybody being sort of chatty and gossipy.

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He said, "All that is against you." He said, "You have to stand there

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"and you have to create the discipline of work

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"and keep the goal of excellence and perfection in front of people.

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"And only you can do it." And he was dead right.

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And, as I say, I often feel that I have to just create...

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When I come on the set in the morning,

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I have to create the feeling all over that set that that day,

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we're going to get two minutes of excellent film that's exactly right.

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If you know anything about good work, you know that the

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thing nobody will ever admit, which is that it's accidental. I'm not being falsely modest.

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There's a reason why the accident happens to some of us and never will happen to other people,

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which is that we know how to prepare the groundwork for it.

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But finally, whatever that magical thing is that makes

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a first-rate piece of work occur, it is an accident, and...

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So, I'm just a great believer in quantity.

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More chances for the accident to happen.

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Whether by accident or design,

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the directors we've heard from were the best in the business,

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responsible for some of cinema's finest ever films

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and masters of every moment that occurred between the start

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of the action and the moment where they shouted cut!

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