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Many of us feel like we're stuck in a rut.

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My heart sinks when I think about sitting in front of a screen

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for another 20 years.

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But what if you could experience a world

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which couldn't be further from the one you know?

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There's so much more to life than going to work.

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Imagine being flown across the world...

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..and opening your eyes...

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Wow!

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..to find yourself in someone else's life.

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Good grief!

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I'm certainly outside the M25 now!

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In this series, six Brits...

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Excuse me, do you speak English?

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..will swap places with complete strangers...

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Welcome to your new home.

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..from across the globe.

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I never dreamed to be in a place like this.

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While their opposite numbers...

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Are there any crocodiles in here?

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No.

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..test-drive life in Britain.

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Oh, my gosh!

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Is that Big Ben?

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For seven days...

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It's coming.

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..both will be immersed in a culture

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which is totally different from their own.

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I'm not in Kansas any more, Toto!

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Could walking in someone else's shoes...

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It's been a wake-up call.

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..pave the way to a better life back home?

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I really want to have life just like this.

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What can you learn by seeing your world through a stranger's eyes?

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Hi!

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What would you do if you were me?

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I really don't know what the impact of this is going to be.

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Having family and keeping them happy.

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I think that's the biggest thing in life.

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This time, two men from different sides of the world...

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..have agreed to swap lives.

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I'll take your blindfold off, but just keep your eyes closed, OK?

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Both have to provide for young families.

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Both are at a crossroads.

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One feels trapped by the hustle and bustle of the city.

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I feel I'm just going through the motions.

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I've often thought about escaping to a different way of life.

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The other lives by the most basic means

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in the remote South American rainforest.

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His may be a simple life, but it's far from easy.

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Here it is very difficult to get a job.

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This is a changing world

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and I need to earn money to survive.

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Now they're about to get a window into a world

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which is the complete opposite of their own.

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Civil servant John lives in south-east London

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and feels caught up in the rat-race.

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My heart sinks when I think about

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sitting in front of a screen

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for another 15-20 years.

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I'd be a bit disappointed

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if life just continues as it is now.

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John dreams of leaving the nine-to-five behind him.

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I feel restless, as if there's more to life than this.

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I think he needs to experience some sort of shake-up

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or sort of shift that's dramatic,

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and experience something completely new.

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I think this whole adventure

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will wake me up to the possibilities

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of what's out there.

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Office worker John is about to swap lives with Lionel,

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a tribesman from Guyana.

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A member of the Macushi tribe, 48-year-old Lionel

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lives on the edge of the North Rupununi Savannah.

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We just live basic,

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by farming, fishing, hunting.

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One of 9,000 Macushi in Guyana,

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Lionel lives as his ancestors have for thousands of years.

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Actually, up to maybe seven years, we were naked.

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That's how we used to live. Very simple - naked.

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The tribe still grow and hunt their own food in order to survive.

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Got him.

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A skilled craftsman, Lionel makes everything his family needs,

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from bows and arrows to fishing rods and baskets.

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But times are changing.

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In the old days, we never knew anything about a dollar or a coin.

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These days, we are changing

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because we are forgetting some of our culture.

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So Lionel needs to find a way to make his way of life pay.

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Now money is playing a bigger role.

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Going to the big city,

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and there might be something that I can bring back here

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and improve my life.

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I think we'll have a better future.

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Their adventure begins when they open their eyes.

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Wow!

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Whoa!

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Where am I?

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That's better. I can see it now!

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Gosh, I've never been anywhere like this before!

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I think I'm outside of the M25 now!

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DISTANT SIRENS WAIL

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Oh!

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I never dreamed...

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..to be in a place like this in my life.

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People are all dressed the same.

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White and black, white and black.

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First job for both men -

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find their way to their new home and their new identity.

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Lionel, Surama village,

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North Rupun-er-ini.

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Wow, that's all I've got!

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Their only clue is each other's name and address.

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Oh!

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Brockley, south-east London.

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Where is that?

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This is really exciting!

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Certainly more eventful than the time I got lost in Southwold park.

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Good morning, mister.

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Can you please help me?

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-No.

-No.

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There are ten times more people in London

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than there are in the whole of Guyana.

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I've no idea where it is, I'm afraid.

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But, so far, Lionel's not having much luck.

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Can you help me get to this individual home?

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No.

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After a string of rejections...

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Hello, Miss Lady.

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..his persistence finally pays off.

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So you want to get on the DLR downstairs.

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-Yeah.

-And get it to Shadwell station,

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that's where you want to get off.

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-Thank you.

-Good luck. Thanks very much.

-Nice meeting you.

-Welcome to London.

-Thanks for your help.

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In Guyana, John is on the edge

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of 5,000 square miles of untouched plains

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known as the Rupununi Savannah.

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I can't see any cars yet.

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Still 85 miles from Lionel's village,

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he's hoping to flag down a lift.

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I can see a buzzard circling...

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..ready to pick my bones when I drop dead!

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HE CHUCKLES

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There are no railways in Guyana.

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Taking a ride on a train is like riding a horse.

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It's like boom, boom.

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-TANNOY:

-'This is Shadwell.'

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So train travel is a new experience for Lionel.

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What should I do?

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Push? Either way.

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Oh!

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HE LAUGHS

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Can you help me? What should I...?

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Oh, ooh-ho, ho-ho!

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Oh, no!

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Whereas John couldn't be further from the London rush hour.

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Stop! No. Didn't work.

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Oh, it did. Yes, it worked!

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Lionel's village is so remote

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that even a trip to Guyana's capital, Georgetown,

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means a 12-hour drive down an unpaved road.

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Hello there. Hi.

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Are you going to Surama village?

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Surama village. Er... I will drop you at the junction.

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That would be wonderful.

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After 30 years in London,

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John and his wife have been questioning whether city life

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is really for them.

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We've thought about moving out of London

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ever since we've been in London, so...!

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A massive decision that we, as a family, need to make

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is whether or not to stay in London or move away.

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It would be quite a big thing,

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and I'm fearful of going to exile

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and having to start from scratch.

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At last, I think I'm at Brockley,

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and now I'm feeling like I'm close.

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This is Lionel's first time outside South America.

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That's a big machine. Hi, guys.

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That's a useful piece of machine to do some work like that.

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We do everything with a hoe or a pickaxe.

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Manual work.

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Lionel's family rely on him to provide for them,

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but his physically challenging lifestyle

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is not sustainable long-term.

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Lionel is a hard-working man, and he's getting old,

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and he has to find other ways and means

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to earn money for his family.

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If Lionel learns practical skills

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to provide for his family,

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that would be good for him.

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He hopes that seeing how the Western world works

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could pave the way for a better future back home.

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Development changes everything,

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and if you're not ready for whatever is coming towards you,

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he's going to be at loss.

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After a two-hour drive,

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John has arrived in the ancient tribal village of Surama,

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on the edge of the Amazon rainforest...

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OK, bye.

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..home to around 300 people and one tapir.

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Wow, what a great nose.

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Sorry to disturb you, I know you're busy,

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but do you know Lionel by any chance?

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HE LAUGHS

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After a journey of thousands of miles...

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HE KNOCKS AT DOOR

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..both men get a chance to meet their new families.

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Hello there. Good evening.

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-Hello, I'm Rachel.

-Hello!

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-Welcome to Surama.

-Great to meet you. Thank you.

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-Hello. Great to meet you.

-Welcome to Surama.

-Thank you.

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For the next week, John will be living with Lionel's wife, Sylvia,

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and their seven children.

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This is Lionel's family.

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Wow. Lovely to meet you all.

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I feel like I'm at a wedding.

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OK, John, let's have a seat.

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Thank you. I need a sit-down.

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So, what do you do for a living?

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Well, we do simple things, like...

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-For living, we do, like, fishing, hunting and farming...

-Whoa.

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..and we're living in the community.

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That sounds very different from my life.

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While in London, Lionel will live with John's wife, Rachel,

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and their two kids, Evie and Elijah.

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I'm dying to ask, where have you travelled from?

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Actually I come from Guyana,

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-in a small village...

-Uh-huh.

-..in the forest.

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-Oh, wow!

-Or in the jungle.

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-Is that where Daddy is?

-Yes.

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So, what does your dad do for a living?

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He's mainly on the computer and goes into his office.

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He's called a civil servant.

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Oh, OK, OK. Uh-huh.

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'It's really wonderful being at John's home.'

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Mmm! Not too bad.

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I'm looking forward to learning more about London

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and the way people live

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and their culture.

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-Here's your room here.

-Right, thank you.

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Here's your hammock.

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'I'm not quite sure

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'about how I'm going to step into Lionel's shoes...'

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Whoa!

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'..because I don't quite know exactly what's expected of me yet.'

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But I'm going to give it all my best shot.

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Being here, it's like a big tsunami has come in

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and I've been left on the beach somehow.

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I woke up at two o'clock in the morning, and everything was like,

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"Oh, what should I do?" And then I put extra head pieces

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and get a towel and just put it here just to keep myself warm.

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-CAMERA PERSON:

-But you didn't sleep under your duvet.

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I didn't understand that first of all.

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I was just looking at it - "Should I get under here?"

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Then I think, "It'll make little difference,"

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so I just keep on top.

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In Guyana, temperatures are around 30 degrees all year round,

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and John is enjoying a warmer start to the day.

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Where can I have a wash, kids?

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The villagers in Surama live in simple houses,

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many without gas, electricity or running water.

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I'm not really used to wandering around outside

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just in underpants, but, you know, everybody seems OK with that.

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Oh, wow! What do we have here?

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It's the first time in my life

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I've actually drawn water from out of a well.

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Yay, water to wash in! Wonderful.

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-Now you can have your shower.

-Right. I draw the shower curtain.

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JOHN LAUGHS

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I'm wet already, so...

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HE SQUEALS

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# La-la-la-la-la. #

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HE HUMS A TUNE

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As experiences go, I'm quite enjoying it.

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I think I'll just tip this bucket up and over.

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Whoa!

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That was good!

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Having familiarised himself with the shower facilities,

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John takes a tour of the hut where Lionel and Sylvia live

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with their seven children.

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And this is Victoria's bed and Victoria sleeps over here.

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OK, yes.

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-And this is my bed, where I sleep, and that's Paul's bed.

-Yeah.

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That's Don's bed and this is my mother's bed.

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-Where are your toys, Jesse?

-I don't have any toys.

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-You don't have any toys?

-No.

-Wow.

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So for you, your toys are the trees to climb

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and the grass to run on,

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and you've got a great playground out there.

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And that might be Lionel.

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I think I might have found a picture of Lionel there.

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Lionel looks of a similar age to me.

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His hair's receding, just like mine, mine's disappearing,

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slowly but surely going further back. So, yeah.

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He looks a wise man.

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-That's your dad?

-Yeah.

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He seems fat and short.

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Lionel usually spends his days hunting for food.

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Today, he'll spend it in an office -

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something John's been doing for the last three decades.

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This bit might be a little puzzling

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because I don't know how people use this.

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But, first, he'll have to dress for the occasion.

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-Sorry, Rachel.

-Oh, yeah.

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Oh, the tie!

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Yeah.

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'You see someone putting on long-sleeved shirts

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'and black jackets, that means

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'you're going to do some important job.

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'And we, at home, we don't dress like this, because, you know,

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'at the end of the work you're going to be all dirty.'

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A little bit big!

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It's too big for you.

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Suited and booted - next stop for Lionel, the morning commute.

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I was given a card.

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I don't know if it's going to work, but I'm going to give it a go.

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-Sorry.

-Wrong way.

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Oh!

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All right, all right.

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4.8 million people use the Tube every day.

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You could fit Lionel's entire village into just four carriages.

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This big thing here looks like a coral snake,

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all the white and red colours,

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very, very long.

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Unbelievable.

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-MOBILE PHONE:

-Turn right on to Aldersgate Street.

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After a 30-minute Tube journey,

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Lionel has made it to central London.

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Where I am is confusing me.

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Even though I am in the middle of thousands of people, I can be lost.

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Used to life in a real jungle,

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finding his way in a concrete one is proving a challenge.

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-MOBILE PHONE:

-Take the first exit on to Montague Street.

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In the jungle we navigate by looking at the sun.

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But here, in a big city, it is very, very strange,

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because I'm not accustomed to looking at a phone

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and I'm following the map.

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Oh! Where am I going?

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Is this the rainforest we're going into?

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-Yeah.

-Brilliant!

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About 70% of Guyana is made up of rainforest.

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It's been providing the Amerindian tribes who live here

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with food and shelter for thousands of years.

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Have you seen Jurassic Park?

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Instead of earning money to survive,

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people like Lionel's brother Hendricks and friend Sparrow

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hunt for their family's food.

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Now civil servant John is joining them on their regular fishing trip

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to the Burro-Burro River, in the Iwokrama rainforest.

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Whee! That was good!

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I never thought I'd come to the Amazon rainforest,

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so this is a dream come true.

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It is incredible.

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It's like, when you sneeze here, it's really weird

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because it's just clean fluid, it's not normal.

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Whereas in London, when I sneeze,

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it's normal, it's black bits and little bits of blood,

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and that's what I'm used to.

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So there's no pollution here at all.

0:18:080:18:10

It's really making me think,

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"What does it do to my children

0:18:120:18:14

"to grow up in all the pollution of London?"

0:18:140:18:17

After a four-hour boat journey, John, Hendricks and Sparrow

0:18:180:18:22

finally reach their destination.

0:18:220:18:25

Home, sweet home! I'm quite hungry.

0:18:250:18:28

Can we go fishing first?

0:18:280:18:30

We have to build our camp first before dark, you know?

0:18:300:18:33

This is jungle.

0:18:330:18:35

JOHN GROANS Come on!

0:18:350:18:37

Come on, John.

0:18:370:18:40

Here I'm well out of my comfort zone.

0:18:400:18:42

I'm well out of the nine-to-five.

0:18:420:18:44

This ain't no city, it's the jungle.

0:18:440:18:47

Oh, wow. So you're stripping the bark off the tree.

0:18:480:18:51

Yeah, bark off the tree.

0:18:510:18:52

And then that's your string.

0:18:520:18:54

It's amazing how they use the jungle here,

0:18:570:19:00

because everything's coming in handy.

0:19:000:19:02

This is bark off a tree.

0:19:020:19:04

That's incredible.

0:19:040:19:07

Oh!

0:19:070:19:08

Oh, dear.

0:19:080:19:09

In this harsh environment,

0:19:090:19:11

John is struggling to find something he can contribute.

0:19:110:19:14

Well, this isn't working very well, is it?

0:19:180:19:20

Oh, dear, I just broke it again.

0:19:220:19:24

Well, I'm feeling a bit helpless.

0:19:270:19:29

It really makes me think about the fact that people here

0:19:290:19:32

have to go through all this just to get food.

0:19:320:19:35

It's just I've never been wonderfully practical,

0:19:350:19:37

and to be a man out here you have to be practical.

0:19:370:19:41

I'd really like to be able to prove myself as man,

0:19:410:19:45

if you like, prove that I'm worth something.

0:19:450:19:48

OK. Thank you very much.

0:19:510:19:54

Right now I'm feeling a real numpty.

0:19:540:19:56

Boof!

0:19:590:20:01

-MOBILE PHONE:

-'You have arrived.'

0:20:040:20:05

You have arrived.

0:20:050:20:07

In London, Lionel's come to meet a friend of John's

0:20:070:20:10

who's going to show him office life.

0:20:100:20:13

-Hi, Lionel.

-Good morning.

-Good morning. I'm Hugh.

-I'm Lionel.

0:20:130:20:16

-OK.

-Come this way.

0:20:160:20:18

Lionel's village has no mains power

0:20:180:20:20

and, although one nearby hut does use a generator to power a computer,

0:20:200:20:25

Lionel's never used it.

0:20:250:20:27

So, Lionel, this is our office.

0:20:270:20:29

I know very little about technology,

0:20:290:20:32

and if there is any opportunity that I can learn about technology,

0:20:320:20:36

I'll be glad to do that.

0:20:360:20:39

-This is very exciting.

-Yeah.

0:20:390:20:40

So these are my e-mails at the moment.

0:20:400:20:43

What is an e-mail, actually?

0:20:430:20:45

It's a bit like a letter.

0:20:450:20:47

-Would you like to have a go?

-Yes, yes. Why not?

0:20:470:20:49

Let's start a new message.

0:20:490:20:51

I'll write in the name of who we're going to send it to.

0:20:510:20:54

It's going to be to Toby.

0:20:540:20:56

Why don't you put in, "Hello, Toby"?

0:20:560:20:58

I'll be back in a little bit.

0:20:580:21:00

Oh, no! What am I going to do here now? All right.

0:21:000:21:04

HE CLEARS HIS THROAT

0:21:080:21:09

Lionel's unlikely to ever have a desk job.

0:21:120:21:15

But as technology becomes more accessible in Guyana,

0:21:160:21:19

basic computer skills could help him in the future...

0:21:190:21:23

This is my first time trying to put my finger on a computer and...

0:21:230:21:28

..it's very hard.

0:21:290:21:31

..but at the moment, it's completely alien to huntsman Lionel.

0:21:330:21:38

Being in an office like this is, like, you're not seeing anything

0:21:380:21:42

other than lights and walls and computers

0:21:420:21:45

and people moving around.

0:21:450:21:48

I come from the forest and I miss it, yeah.

0:21:490:21:54

Hi, Lionel. How are you getting on?

0:21:550:21:57

-Very slow.

-OK.

0:21:570:21:59

And then you click on this button here,

0:21:590:22:01

and you've sent your first e-mail.

0:22:010:22:03

-This is very good.

-Yeah.

-Yeah.

0:22:030:22:06

This little writing that you did is...

0:22:060:22:08

Now I understand what the computer can be

0:22:080:22:11

a very good piece of equipment.

0:22:110:22:14

And maybe one day, who knows,

0:22:140:22:16

I will have one of these.

0:22:160:22:18

E-mailing mastered, Lionel takes a well-earned break.

0:22:230:22:27

Tastes like a very old, dead fish.

0:22:270:22:30

This morning has given him a glimpse

0:22:300:22:32

into how people provide for their families in the Western world.

0:22:320:22:36

If I was to work like John

0:22:360:22:38

I don't think I would make it,

0:22:380:22:41

because even though it looks simple, I know it's hard.

0:22:410:22:45

Especially if you was not born in a technology world,

0:22:450:22:48

it's very confusing.

0:22:480:22:50

Very, very confusing.

0:22:500:22:51

In the depths of the rainforest...

0:22:550:22:58

-Look, snake, John.

-Snake! Oh, wow.

0:22:580:23:02

..John is getting a window into Lionel's way of life.

0:23:020:23:06

It all seems a bit more foreboding at night,

0:23:060:23:10

a bit more scary.

0:23:100:23:11

When out hunting for meat and fish,

0:23:130:23:15

the Macushi's working day can begin before dawn

0:23:150:23:18

and go on late into the night.

0:23:180:23:21

Right now they're on the hunt for catfish,

0:23:210:23:23

which are more active and easier to catch when it's cooler.

0:23:230:23:26

John needs a good haul if he's to provide for his new family.

0:23:300:23:34

Each of the two or three fishing trips a week

0:23:350:23:38

needs to provide at least 20 fish.

0:23:380:23:42

Yeah, it must be quite difficult for Lionel with so many kids.

0:23:420:23:45

Seven kids. Wow!

0:23:450:23:47

He must be under tremendous pressure to bring home fish for his family.

0:23:470:23:51

Yeah, this is real hard work, you know? This is a man's work.

0:23:510:23:54

Whoa, look at that!

0:23:560:23:58

Well done, Sparrow. That is incredible.

0:23:580:24:00

The jungle's newest breadwinner has been up for over 16 hours

0:24:000:24:04

and is yet to eat a thing.

0:24:040:24:06

Oh, no.

0:24:070:24:08

I caught a leaf!

0:24:080:24:10

If I had to do this two or three times a week,

0:24:110:24:15

I'd really struggle.

0:24:150:24:16

Come on, fish! Where are you?

0:24:170:24:18

It makes me think my life is very, very easy indeed,

0:24:190:24:22

and I take a lot of things for granted.

0:24:220:24:26

I've got a bite, lads. I've got a bite. Don't panic.

0:24:260:24:29

I can feel it tugging.

0:24:300:24:33

I think I've got something.

0:24:330:24:34

Look, look, you've got it.

0:24:340:24:35

Pull it up in the boat. In the boat, John.

0:24:350:24:38

In the boat. Yes!

0:24:380:24:40

Hooray!

0:24:400:24:41

I got ya!

0:24:410:24:44

It's a great feeling, isn't it, catching a fish like that?

0:24:460:24:49

And to think we can take it back now to Sylvia and the kids.

0:24:490:24:52

-Yeah!

-And have something to eat. It's wonderful.

0:24:520:24:55

-So, does this make me a man now?

-Yes, yes.

-Yeah?

0:24:550:24:58

That's awesome.

0:24:580:25:00

How's your fish doing?

0:25:000:25:02

-Dead.

-Dead!

0:25:020:25:04

JOHN LAUGHS

0:25:040:25:06

They've only caught two fish,

0:25:090:25:11

but must return to camp and smoke them

0:25:110:25:12

so they don't spoil on the journey home.

0:25:120:25:15

-How long will it take to cook?

-Three hours.

0:25:150:25:19

-Three hours?!

-Yeah.

0:25:190:25:20

It's a hard life in the jungle, isn't it?

0:25:200:25:23

-Nothing's easy.

-Yeah.

0:25:230:25:24

They must save these fish in order to feed the family.

0:25:240:25:27

So, tonight, they'll be going hungry.

0:25:270:25:30

There's one way that shows if you love your family,

0:25:300:25:33

and you have to sacrifice for them, you know?

0:25:330:25:36

But at least I can go to sleep satisfied

0:25:360:25:38

that I've provided for them.

0:25:380:25:41

Technology may have proved tricky,

0:25:480:25:50

but Lionel wants to look for other ways

0:25:500:25:52

that the modern world could help him make some money back home.

0:25:520:25:56

Hello, Rachel.

0:25:560:25:59

Hello.

0:25:590:26:00

-What are you doing?

-Hi.

0:26:000:26:02

-I'm doing, erm, welding.

-Oh!

0:26:020:26:04

Rachel is an artist and trained welder

0:26:040:26:07

and is showing him some of her work.

0:26:070:26:09

So this is one way that I use

0:26:090:26:11

to join two pieces of metal together.

0:26:110:26:14

-Sounds very useful.

-Yeah.

0:26:140:26:16

Back home, Lionel relies on basic hand tools to survive,

0:26:160:26:21

but working in the unforgiving landscape of Surama

0:26:210:26:24

means they rarely last long.

0:26:240:26:26

A skill like welding could be a lifeline.

0:26:260:26:29

We have things that are broken and we cannot fix it.

0:26:290:26:31

You know, it's a lot of money to send things

0:26:310:26:34

and getting it fixed, and if I can learn about it,

0:26:340:26:37

I could weld up all the broken tools.

0:26:370:26:40

It is something you could make a living off.

0:26:400:26:42

It is exciting to be showing you a technique that's new

0:26:420:26:47

that you may be able to make use of,

0:26:470:26:49

because this type of welding doesn't require any electricity.

0:26:490:26:53

-Oh, OK. Just the gas?

-It's the gas.

-OK.

0:26:530:26:56

So it's something that's doable without electricity.

0:26:560:26:59

This technique may be simple by Western standards,

0:27:020:27:05

but it's still beyond the reach of rural Guyana.

0:27:050:27:08

Even though it is a simple thing to, besides electricity,

0:27:080:27:13

we don't even have that type of gas in Guyana.

0:27:130:27:16

Welding is not the answer for Lionel.

0:27:160:27:19

I really thank you for showing me what you do

0:27:190:27:22

and I'm really impressed about it.

0:27:220:27:24

-Oh, thank you.

-Yeah, it's nice.

0:27:240:27:26

But his time with Rachel has inspired him

0:27:260:27:28

to look for ways to monetise his practical skills as a craftsman.

0:27:280:27:33

'What I have learned here is a big thing for me.'

0:27:330:27:36

John and Hendricks arrive back in Surama with their catch.

0:27:470:27:51

Home sweet home.

0:27:510:27:52

Home sweet home. Right!

0:27:520:27:55

On average, they'd expect to bring home

0:27:550:27:57

anything between 20 and 100 fish per trip.

0:27:570:28:00

But John only has two.

0:28:020:28:04

-Hi, good afternoon.

-Hi, Sylvia. Hello.

0:28:040:28:07

We went hunting

0:28:070:28:09

and we caught two fish.

0:28:090:28:11

Is that all right? Is that good?

0:28:130:28:16

At least you tried. You tried very hard.

0:28:200:28:23

I did. I did my best.

0:28:230:28:24

It did make me realise...

0:28:240:28:27

what people have to do just to survive here.

0:28:270:28:30

And that is why I said our life is very hard.

0:28:300:28:33

We have... In a way that sometimes we get,

0:28:330:28:36

sometimes we don't get for us to eat enough.

0:28:360:28:40

Sylvia thought it was good that I'd caught a fish

0:28:420:28:45

but she wasn't really all that impressed.

0:28:450:28:48

I think if I'd been Lionel, she would have sent me back out again

0:28:480:28:52

on another hunting trip.

0:28:520:28:54

If you want to be man, you have to fish, you have to hunt,

0:28:540:28:58

you have to bring everything for the family.

0:28:580:29:01

There's little ants on it. Do they matter?

0:29:010:29:03

Do they just add flavour, the ants?

0:29:030:29:05

John made himself a man.

0:29:080:29:09

He bring home a fish for the family.

0:29:090:29:12

For his kids to eat.

0:29:130:29:15

During the whole rainforest experience

0:29:170:29:19

I didn't have anything to eat, so I was really starving-hungry -

0:29:190:29:23

hungrier than probably I've ever been in my life before.

0:29:230:29:27

So it helped me to understand

0:29:270:29:29

that life is bloody hard out here.

0:29:290:29:32

In the UK, Lionel's taking a break from the city...

0:29:440:29:49

Here we are, here we are.

0:29:490:29:50

..to experience life in the country

0:29:500:29:52

with Rachel and the children.

0:29:520:29:54

-Being in a big city and then coming out to the countryside...

-Yeah.

0:29:540:29:59

..it makes me feel like I'm at home.

0:29:590:30:01

They're heading to Scotland, home to Rachel's parents.

0:30:010:30:04

The family have discussed moving here.

0:30:040:30:07

What do you think about your parents moving?

0:30:070:30:09

I think Mummy would be OK with it, to be honest,

0:30:090:30:14

because I think you already really kind of want to move up there.

0:30:140:30:17

But I don't think it's good for Daddy,

0:30:170:30:20

because he's going to have to work from home

0:30:200:30:22

and he's not going to have a good job.

0:30:220:30:25

How do you know?

0:30:250:30:26

Because he was always complaining about it.

0:30:270:30:30

After failing to catch enough fish for the family,

0:30:340:30:37

Hendricks wants to show John how the Macushi help those in need.

0:30:370:30:40

Here, you can see a structure there,

0:30:420:30:44

up there, that Lionel has built.

0:30:440:30:45

We need to finish this for him.

0:30:450:30:47

That sounds like hard work.

0:30:470:30:49

Whenever there's a job too big for one family,

0:30:490:30:52

help is always at hand.

0:30:520:30:54

Wow!

0:30:580:30:59

One of our traditions is...

0:31:010:31:05

-Yes.

-It's people coming together to help one and other.

0:31:050:31:09

-That's really good.

-Yeah, people working together.

0:31:090:31:12

We haven't got a word for that kind of thing in England.

0:31:120:31:15

This old tradition in Lionel's tribe,

0:31:150:31:17

is one of the ways the community helps support each other

0:31:170:31:21

through hard times.

0:31:210:31:22

It's a great concept for having everybody coming together

0:31:220:31:25

and working hard and getting things done.

0:31:250:31:28

There you go, Francis.

0:31:300:31:31

I wish I had a group of men coming around my house to help!

0:31:330:31:36

I think in London we've really lost community,

0:31:400:31:44

because we're all so busy.

0:31:440:31:46

And here they have a great community,

0:31:460:31:49

the people pull together.

0:31:490:31:51

There's a closeness that I've never really felt in London at all.

0:31:510:31:56

This must be an important tradition for you?

0:31:560:31:59

Yes, of course, it is important tradition for me,

0:31:590:32:02

and I will never like it to be lost.

0:32:020:32:04

I'll never lose it, you know?

0:32:040:32:05

-Yeah.

-I don't want to lose it.

0:32:050:32:07

Oh, wow! There's a great spider over here.

0:32:070:32:10

Wow, look at him. Gosh.

0:32:100:32:13

Hendricks, what kind of spider is this?

0:32:130:32:16

-Tarantula.

-It's a tarantula?!

-Yeah!

0:32:160:32:20

Oh, OK, right, that's groovy. Will that one bite then?

0:32:200:32:23

-Yeah. Bite.

-It'll bite?

0:32:230:32:24

-All spiders bite.

-Right.

0:32:240:32:26

I'll steer clear of spiders then.

0:32:260:32:29

It was a close encounter of the spidery kind.

0:32:290:32:32

-Come on, John. Grab.

-And is this...?

0:32:320:32:34

-"Come on, John. Do some work!"

-Yeah.

0:32:340:32:37

It's hard physical work, but the Macushi way of life

0:32:400:32:43

has awoken something in John.

0:32:430:32:46

Helping out here today does make me feel

0:32:460:32:49

more of a valued member of the community.

0:32:490:32:52

'It's a bit of a watershed moment.

0:32:520:32:54

'I'd love to be part of something like this back home

0:32:540:32:57

'where people pull together.

0:32:570:32:59

'Or, whatever it is, just have people more involved

0:32:590:33:02

'with other people's lives.'

0:33:020:33:04

I think we're really missing something.

0:33:040:33:07

After a five-hour journey, Lionel has left the city far behind.

0:33:110:33:15

-Welcome to Scotland!

-Oh, thank you!

0:33:180:33:21

They've arrived in Duns, on the Scottish border.

0:33:210:33:25

With its sprawling mountains,

0:33:250:33:27

luscious forests and untouched coastline,

0:33:270:33:29

Scotland boasts some of the most extraordinary countryside in the UK.

0:33:290:33:33

But it's 30 degrees colder than Lionel is used to.

0:33:340:33:37

Oh!

0:33:390:33:40

Look at this.

0:33:400:33:42

What is that? This is frozen,

0:33:420:33:45

which makes you feel very, very cold.

0:33:450:33:49

This is first time I'm seeing something like this.

0:33:490:33:52

Look at this! This looks like glass.

0:33:520:33:56

I can't really imagine not seeing it.

0:33:560:33:59

It may be cold outside, but Lionel is given a warm welcome

0:33:590:34:03

by Rachel's parents, Ken and Carol.

0:34:030:34:05

Would Lionel like to taste some Scottish shortbread?

0:34:070:34:10

-Yes. Look, you've got to try...

-It's a speciality of Scotland.

0:34:100:34:13

OK. Let me have a go!

0:34:130:34:15

Quite nice?

0:34:180:34:20

Tastes like milk.

0:34:200:34:21

-Butter.

-Butter.

0:34:210:34:23

Very delicious and I love it.

0:34:230:34:27

Lionel wants to find out more about what rural life is like in the UK.

0:34:270:34:31

Rachel was talking about moving from London here,

0:34:310:34:37

and the kids are very keen of moving.

0:34:370:34:41

We've been trying to persuade Rachel and John

0:34:410:34:43

to move up with the children for several years

0:34:430:34:46

because we think it's...

0:34:460:34:48

It's a lovely environment for the children.

0:34:480:34:51

I think in a place like Duns, you've got a local community,

0:34:510:34:54

-people recognise one and other.

-Yes.

0:34:540:34:56

Strangers will say hello to each other here.

0:34:560:34:58

Whereas, in London, it's impossible to do that.

0:34:580:35:02

But coming from a poor, rural community,

0:35:020:35:05

Lionel understands what the family would be giving up

0:35:050:35:07

by leaving the city.

0:35:070:35:10

John's job, it's a good job.

0:35:100:35:13

If they decide to move here it will be a little puzzling

0:35:130:35:16

to John to find a job and settle again.

0:35:160:35:20

I understand that. I mean, he's fortunate to have a job

0:35:200:35:24

that probably is fairly secure.

0:35:240:35:27

So therefore you justify remaining.

0:35:270:35:30

'I think the biggest problem in moving to Scotland

0:35:340:35:37

'I think is a financial problem, because John has a wonderful job.'

0:35:370:35:42

'It seems like if they move

0:35:420:35:43

'from where they have already rooted themselves, come to a new area,

0:35:430:35:48

'maybe they would trouble for the first couple of months

0:35:480:35:52

'to get a job or settle in properly'

0:35:520:35:54

and, erm...

0:35:540:35:56

..I don't know how to advise him.

0:35:580:36:00

THEY SING IN OWN LANGUAGE

0:36:020:36:05

After finishing their work on the hut,

0:36:090:36:10

the villagers have come together to celebrate

0:36:100:36:13

with some traditional dancing.

0:36:130:36:15

I have to go and join them?

0:36:150:36:17

With pleasure!

0:36:170:36:19

THEY SING IN OWN LANGUAGE

0:36:190:36:23

'I'm starting to slowly realise

0:36:250:36:28

'why I've been dropped here,

0:36:280:36:30

'of all places on the planet.

0:36:300:36:32

'Because, in Surama Village,

0:36:320:36:35

'I've seen a real tribal community in action.

0:36:350:36:39

'Perhaps why I feel I need to move to the countryside

0:36:390:36:43

'is because I think there's a lack of community,

0:36:430:36:47

'and that's been eroded in London.'

0:36:470:36:50

THEY CHEER

0:36:500:36:53

But John's realised that the thing he's been missing

0:36:570:37:00

is something he can help to create, regardless of location.

0:37:000:37:03

I think I've found a community here.

0:37:030:37:06

Quite an amazing community

0:37:060:37:08

that lives a very, very hard life,

0:37:080:37:11

but they have a great sense of who they are,

0:37:110:37:13

a great sense of cultural identity.

0:37:130:37:17

Perhaps I've been far too passive in my life.

0:37:170:37:21

I'd like to try and be more proactive in reaching out to others

0:37:210:37:24

and to try and create community like it back home,

0:37:240:37:30

wherever home becomes for me.

0:37:300:37:33

To really share life together and be alive together,

0:37:330:37:37

rather than walking through life quite isolated.

0:37:370:37:41

Above my head is a big clock, which is famous, I think.

0:37:470:37:51

Both men have now spent several days

0:37:510:37:53

in each other's worlds.

0:37:530:37:55

I'm going to bid for the chicken

0:37:550:37:56

and provide some meat for the family.

0:37:560:37:59

The Amazon rainforest,

0:37:590:38:00

it's as extreme as you can get on the planet,

0:38:000:38:03

but it's helping me to shape my thoughts.

0:38:030:38:06

Being in London is absolutely unbelievable.

0:38:090:38:12

I can see people who live in cities,

0:38:120:38:16

how hard they work, because of money,

0:38:160:38:18

but I think, the way I live, I love it.

0:38:180:38:21

Our movies, our traffic, is songs of wildlife.

0:38:210:38:26

Here is concrete jungle, but there it's real jungle.

0:38:260:38:29

-1,500.

-1,500.

0:38:310:38:34

1,600.

0:38:360:38:37

Who is that back there?!

0:38:370:38:39

'Being here has certainly woken me up,

0:38:400:38:43

'because life here is really tough.

0:38:430:38:45

'So, when I get back, I'm not going to take things for granted at all.'

0:38:450:38:50

A shower, the supermarkets...

0:38:500:38:52

I'm going to love it.

0:38:520:38:54

It's going to astound me for the first few weeks, I think.

0:38:540:38:57

Amerindian people really don't think that far

0:38:580:39:01

about big changes in their life.

0:39:010:39:03

Once they know that they're living peaceful, happy and simple,

0:39:030:39:07

I think that's the main goal.

0:39:070:39:09

1,800. Gone.

0:39:090:39:12

Hurray!

0:39:120:39:13

I love the clean air and the openness around me,

0:39:140:39:18

and I feel more connected to the planet

0:39:180:39:22

and life and nature.

0:39:220:39:24

I'm going to call my chicken Lionel, if that's all right?

0:39:260:39:29

Is that OK? Hello, Lionel. How you doing?

0:39:290:39:32

Are you doing all right?

0:39:320:39:34

CHICKEN CLUCKS

0:39:340:39:35

-Hello.

-Hi, Sylvia.

-Hi.

-I've got a present for you.

0:39:380:39:42

John's hoping that the chicken

0:39:420:39:45

will help to make up for his failures on the fish front.

0:39:450:39:48

-I hope you don't mind, but I've called it Lionel.

-OK!

0:39:480:39:51

-All right?!

-Thank you very much, John.

0:39:530:39:56

That's all right.

0:39:560:39:57

'I was determined to bid for that chicken,

0:39:570:40:00

'and I managed to get it, which was great,

0:40:000:40:02

'because then I was able to bring home some meat,

0:40:020:40:05

'because I only caught two fish and that was it.'

0:40:050:40:08

Oh, look, Lionel's making friends over there. That's good.

0:40:080:40:11

And in this part of the world,

0:40:120:40:14

a man isn't really a man unless he brings home some meat.

0:40:140:40:18

So I was pleased about that.

0:40:180:40:20

Since being in London,

0:40:310:40:32

Lionel has been searching for a way he can make money back home.

0:40:320:40:36

Although welding wasn't achievable,

0:40:360:40:38

there's a clear need for tool-making and repair in Surama.

0:40:380:40:41

-Hello.

-Hello. You must be Lionel.

0:40:410:40:44

-Yeah, I'm Lionel.

-Nice to meet you.

-Nice to see you.

0:40:440:40:47

So, today he's come to see a traditional blacksmith.

0:40:470:40:50

What we thought we'd do would be to make an axe.

0:40:510:40:54

OK. OK, that would be nice.

0:40:540:40:56

Once you know how to make an axe,

0:40:560:40:57

-you can make whatever tool you need on the end.

-Yes, OK.

0:40:570:41:01

We've got this piece of 25mm rebar.

0:41:010:41:04

-It'll be quite good tool-making material.

-OK.

0:41:040:41:07

-OK.

-Let's pop this in.

-OK.

0:41:070:41:10

And we'll just wait for that to start warming up.

0:41:100:41:12

Blacksmithing has been practised in Britain for over 2,000 years

0:41:140:41:17

and the technique has barely changed.

0:41:170:41:20

All you need is a hot enough fire and some brute strength.

0:41:200:41:24

I'm going to come in and strike the first blow.

0:41:240:41:27

-OK.

-So I go one, then you go, hit it in the same place.

0:41:270:41:31

-All right.

-Just like that.

0:41:310:41:33

That's it.

0:41:350:41:37

Being able to work with metal could change the way that Lionel lives,

0:41:370:41:41

as tools such as axes and hoes

0:41:410:41:44

currently have to be purchased outside the village.

0:41:440:41:47

So, Lionel, what's so important about being able to make tools?

0:41:470:41:51

Actually, way back home we don't have so many tools,

0:41:510:41:55

and so what happens, every now and then some of these tools broke,

0:41:550:42:00

but learning from you,

0:42:000:42:03

I may have an idea how we can mend it up

0:42:030:42:07

so that I would be more productive in farming.

0:42:070:42:11

So, this will be a very, very important lesson for me.

0:42:110:42:16

OK. Cool. So, on the axe, on the front, we have the blade.

0:42:160:42:22

-OK.

-On the back, what would you like?

0:42:220:42:25

What about if you make, like, a pickaxe edge, a sharp...?

0:42:250:42:29

-Like a spike?

-Yes.

0:42:290:42:31

Because some places, the earth is very hard.

0:42:310:42:34

If I can make a small pickaxe it's going to be very valuable

0:42:340:42:38

and, financial-wise, it's something very, very important.

0:42:380:42:43

So, you know, this is a big thing for me,

0:42:430:42:46

-for my family and for my village.

-OK.

0:42:460:42:48

So, what do you think? Do you think this is sharp enough now...

0:42:480:42:52

-Yeah!

-..for what you want? OK.

0:42:520:42:56

In just a few hours, Lionel has learnt the basics of forging tools.

0:42:560:43:00

So...

0:43:010:43:04

for you.

0:43:040:43:05

Thank you, Kevin. Thank you so much.

0:43:050:43:08

-Thank you for teaching me.

-No problem.

0:43:080:43:10

Sharing your knowledge with me is one of the biggest things.

0:43:100:43:12

-I really appreciate. Thank you, man.

-No worries.

0:43:120:43:15

I will take everything and tell my people

0:43:150:43:18

about how you guys make tools.

0:43:180:43:21

I think you'll make a very good blacksmith.

0:43:210:43:23

-Thank you! Thank you so much. Bye-bye.

-Bye-bye.

0:43:230:43:26

It is very, very interesting being here.

0:43:290:43:31

As soon as I get back, I'm going to try to make something like this.

0:43:310:43:35

If I can make my own tools, I don't have to buy tools from no-one.

0:43:350:43:39

I just make my own tools, that would be very beneficial.

0:43:390:43:42

Maybe I can, as I develop,

0:43:420:43:44

I can sell it to other people and make an income.

0:43:440:43:48

In Guyana, John's spending the day finding out more

0:43:530:43:57

about the skills that people like Lionel have traditionally relied on.

0:43:570:44:01

Now we're going to show you how to make the bow.

0:44:010:44:06

OK, brilliant. Have you got a lucky bow?

0:44:060:44:09

-Yeah.

-Yeah, have you?! I have lucky socks.

0:44:090:44:12

-This is one of Lionel's skills, making bows.

-Right.

0:44:120:44:15

-Yeah.

-Has your tribe always used bows like this then?

0:44:150:44:19

-Yes, our forefathers used this.

-Yeah.

-Yes.

0:44:190:44:22

So, thousands of years ago,

0:44:220:44:24

somebody could have been sitting here from your tribe

0:44:240:44:28

-making a bow just like Derek's doing now?

-Yes!

0:44:280:44:30

Yes! That is incredible.

0:44:300:44:33

Over the last generation,

0:44:330:44:34

the lure of the city and the promise of paid work means that young people

0:44:340:44:38

have been leaving villages like Surama in droves.

0:44:380:44:41

Skills like bow-making are at risk of being forgotten.

0:44:410:44:45

We are losing this

0:44:450:44:46

-because other developments are coming into our community.

-Yes.

0:44:460:44:50

-More jobs, and we have computers and all those things, you know?

-Yes.

0:44:500:44:53

So our children are less interested

0:44:530:44:55

-in those kind of things, you know?

-Yes.

0:44:550:44:58

So it seems like we are losing our tradition

0:44:580:45:01

-in making bows and arrows and using them.

-Yeah.

0:45:010:45:04

The modern world and technology will bring a lot of really good things,

0:45:040:45:08

-but you don't want to lose your traditions.

-Yeah.

0:45:080:45:11

But there is still demand for the products

0:45:110:45:14

that craftsmen like Lionel and Hendricks make.

0:45:140:45:17

A few of our people know how to make these bows and arrows, too.

0:45:170:45:21

So some of the people buy from the people who made this bow.

0:45:210:45:24

-Oh, I see. So they buy the bow. Oh, right.

-Yes.

0:45:250:45:28

It's a good skill to teach your children, then?

0:45:280:45:31

-Yes, it's good skill.

-Not only can they hunt and get meat and fish,

0:45:310:45:34

-but they can earn money as well through selling bows.

-Yeah.

0:45:340:45:38

It's a good thing, then.

0:45:380:45:40

At the moment, Lionel sells his bows infrequently,

0:45:420:45:45

either to other villagers or the odd tourist he happens to meet.

0:45:450:45:50

-You see that?

-Wow! Did that go right through?

0:45:500:45:53

-Yes.

-Whoa, good. Right, cool.

0:45:530:45:55

But John thinks there could be a way

0:45:550:45:57

for Lionel's crafts to provide the family with more of an income.

0:45:570:46:02

'I think it's very important for them here

0:46:020:46:04

'to cling onto their heritage and to really protect it,

0:46:040:46:08

'and if they can, make some money out of it as well

0:46:080:46:11

'so that they can improve their lives.'

0:46:110:46:13

'Maybe Lionel could open a shop somewhere and sell things.

0:46:180:46:21

'That could be a great way of generating money.'

0:46:210:46:24

Yes! Well done, me.

0:46:260:46:29

-Well done, John.

-Thank you.

0:46:290:46:31

OK.

0:46:330:46:35

In the UK, John's daughter Evie is also getting an insight

0:46:350:46:38

into Lionel's skills as a craftsman.

0:46:380:46:41

So who does this in the village?

0:46:410:46:43

I do it myself, because I'm a huntsman

0:46:430:46:46

and I have to get my arrowhead.

0:46:460:46:48

-So, do you teach other people how to do it?

-My kids.

0:46:480:46:51

Skills like arrow-making have been passed down

0:46:510:46:54

from generation to generation in Guyana.

0:46:540:46:58

My dad hasn't taught me anything like this.

0:46:580:47:01

Lionel is only too aware of what's at risk

0:47:010:47:04

from the increasing need for cash.

0:47:040:47:07

If you are not careful,

0:47:070:47:09

we would lose our culture and craft-making,

0:47:090:47:12

because it looks like we are following too much

0:47:120:47:15

of how developed countries...

0:47:150:47:17

Or people in the developed country lives,

0:47:170:47:20

rather than just protecting our culture right.

0:47:200:47:23

And that's how your arrowhead should look like.

0:47:230:47:26

-Wow!

-Would you like to have a go?

0:47:260:47:29

Yes, please.

0:47:290:47:30

'It is very important to pass on knowledge and experiences

0:47:300:47:35

'to young generations as to what our forefathers did in the old days.'

0:47:350:47:39

Slowly. Yeah, that's good.

0:47:390:47:42

'We start teaching our kids from five, six years,

0:47:420:47:47

'because they must learn to handle knives skilfully.'

0:47:470:47:50

I don't think I would have been able to do this at five!

0:47:520:47:57

-You think that's good enough?

-No!

0:47:590:48:03

It looks weird.

0:48:030:48:04

We can hold out together and see which one looks the best.

0:48:050:48:08

-Your one.

-Yes, but you did good.

0:48:080:48:12

-That was really fun, thank you.

-Thank you.

0:48:130:48:16

In Guyana, John's been thinking about ways

0:48:220:48:24

to make the most of Lionel's talents.

0:48:240:48:26

Lionel is a really great craftsman.

0:48:280:48:31

If they could sell things, that could be a great way

0:48:310:48:34

of generating money.

0:48:340:48:35

So if I can help somehow, that would be really great.

0:48:350:48:38

Over 20,000 tourists travel to Guyana every year

0:48:380:48:42

to experience the pristine jungle and traditional way of life.

0:48:420:48:45

But with Surama well and truly off the beaten track,

0:48:470:48:50

the question is how to attract them.

0:48:500:48:53

John has made his way to the nearest computer,

0:48:530:48:56

at an eco lodge, 1km from the village.

0:48:560:48:58

For me, I'm not a hunter or a fisherman or a farmer,

0:49:000:49:05

but I'd like to bring what skills I can

0:49:050:49:08

to help these guys out a little bit.

0:49:080:49:11

Inspired by the sense of community Surama has shown him,

0:49:120:49:15

he wants to do his bit by helping to find a way

0:49:150:49:18

to connect with potential tourists passing by.

0:49:180:49:21

I'm creating a social media page for Lionel

0:49:210:49:24

to market his skills and what he can offer people.

0:49:240:49:28

So people will be able to find him and spend money!

0:49:280:49:33

I've found a great photo of him in a canoe,

0:49:330:49:36

so I think people will be impressed by that.

0:49:360:49:38

There you go, he's there.

0:49:410:49:44

"Lionel James updated his profile picture." That's good.

0:49:450:49:48

So I've put, "I belong to the Macushi tribe

0:49:480:49:51

"who have lived here for thousands of years

0:49:510:49:53

"and practise the traditional skills,

0:49:530:49:55

"such as hunting, fishing, bow-making and weaving,

0:49:550:49:59

"in the jungle around Surama Village, Guyana."

0:49:590:50:02

OK, I think that's it.

0:50:020:50:04

My hope, in doing this, is that it will set him up for the future.

0:50:060:50:10

I want him to realise that technology isn't to be feared,

0:50:110:50:14

but it's something he can use to market his business

0:50:140:50:18

and, really, so he can start making some money.

0:50:180:50:21

It's the last night of the swap,

0:50:260:50:28

and in the UK Evie, too, wants to show Lionel

0:50:280:50:31

how he can use technology to get the message about his crafts

0:50:310:50:34

out to the masses.

0:50:340:50:35

eBay is basically where you can sell things that you've made.

0:50:360:50:43

So you could actually make money from your village.

0:50:430:50:47

Maybe that would be useful.

0:50:470:50:49

Thank you so much for giving me that information.

0:50:490:50:52

So the most important thing

0:50:520:50:54

is probably to take a photo.

0:50:540:50:57

'Evie, even though she's young,

0:50:580:51:01

'she seemed to be knowledgeable about the technology.

0:51:010:51:04

'I just taught her simple things

0:51:040:51:07

'about making arrowheads,

0:51:070:51:10

'that's nothing compared to what she taught me.'

0:51:100:51:13

So, as you can see, it says, "What do you want to sell?"

0:51:130:51:15

Just put "arrowheads".

0:51:150:51:17

I think we should describe it more,

0:51:170:51:20

because when you say "arrowheads", it's not very interesting.

0:51:200:51:24

"Handcrafted arrowheads from Guyana."

0:51:240:51:28

'I really appreciate what she taught me.

0:51:280:51:30

'It seems very interesting.

0:51:300:51:32

'Even from home you could sell your produce to the outside world.'

0:51:320:51:37

Yeah, it's really impressive. Yeah.

0:51:380:51:40

Don't forget your toothbrush.

0:51:440:51:46

Having spent the last week living one another's lives,

0:51:460:51:49

the time has come for John and Lionel

0:51:490:51:51

to start the long journey home.

0:51:510:51:52

-OK, Rachel, I am leaving!

-Bye-bye!

0:51:540:51:58

Oh, Evie!

0:51:580:52:00

'I'm going to really miss Lionel.'

0:52:000:52:02

Because he was really funny and nice

0:52:020:52:04

and he taught us lots of things about his country

0:52:040:52:08

and where he lives,

0:52:080:52:09

and he's not modern and he just makes his own things

0:52:090:52:13

and that's really what I like about him.

0:52:130:52:16

I'm very sad at this moment, leaving good people.

0:52:170:52:20

Since I come, everybody was so hospitable, friendly.

0:52:200:52:25

And at the same time,

0:52:260:52:28

I'm looking forward to seeing my family back home.

0:52:280:52:32

-That's for you.

-Wow, thank you.

0:52:330:52:35

You put it up on your wall as a souvenir

0:52:350:52:37

and, every time you look at it, you will remember Surama.

0:52:370:52:40

Oh, thank you very much indeed.

0:52:400:52:42

Thank you. Wow.

0:52:420:52:44

I can shoot the squirrels outside now.

0:52:440:52:47

'My experiences here

0:52:480:52:50

'have been unlike any I've had anywhere else.

0:52:500:52:55

'It's such a different environment,

0:52:550:52:57

'it's like being on a different planet, and I've enjoyed it.

0:52:570:53:01

'It's been hard, but nevertheless

0:53:010:53:03

'I'll take something with me from here,

0:53:030:53:05

'because there's a deep appreciation of community.'

0:53:050:53:08

Before reuniting with their families,

0:53:150:53:18

John and Lionel will meet for the first time.

0:53:180:53:20

I'm feeling really excited about seeing Lionel today.

0:53:200:53:25

He's like a long-lost brother or something,

0:53:250:53:27

because I know so much about him but I've never met the fella.

0:53:270:53:30

I will be very interested, yes, of course,

0:53:330:53:36

to hear how John coped with doing some of my work.

0:53:360:53:40

When I get there,

0:53:400:53:42

I will get the whole story.

0:53:420:53:44

This whole experience has given me great insight into who he is,

0:53:440:53:48

so I'm going to be very interested to find out what he has to say.

0:53:480:53:52

-Hello!

-Hello! Hi.

0:53:530:53:56

-You must be John.

-Hello, Lionel.

-Nice to meet you.

0:53:560:53:59

-Hello. Hi, mate.

-How are you?

-All right, doing well.

-Good.

0:53:590:54:01

-Take a seat, let's catch up.

-Why not!

0:54:010:54:05

-How was London for you?

-Actually, it was unbelievable.

0:54:050:54:08

-Unbelievable?!

-Unbelievable.

0:54:080:54:11

But, beside everything else,

0:54:110:54:13

you have a very lovely family.

0:54:130:54:15

-Oh, thank you. Thank you.

-So do you.

0:54:150:54:17

-Very welcoming.

-So do you.

0:54:170:54:19

John, I want to ask you, what do you think about the way I live?

0:54:190:54:22

I put myself in your shoes for this small slot of time,

0:54:220:54:27

but I don't think I could do it for the rest of my life

0:54:270:54:29

-or for very long at all, really.

-Yeah, yeah.

0:54:290:54:31

Something that we're seeking in London is more community...

0:54:310:54:35

Mm-hmm.

0:54:350:54:37

..and in Surama, people have time for one another

0:54:370:54:41

and people care about one another.

0:54:410:54:43

-We haven't got that in the same way in the UK.

-Yeah.

0:54:430:54:46

-That's been lost.

-Everything is different, yeah.

0:54:460:54:48

Yeah, that's what I see, that's what I experienced.

0:54:480:54:51

People don't have that togetherness.

0:54:510:54:55

What would you do if you were me?

0:54:550:54:57

I found out when I was in Scotland

0:54:570:55:00

how people in the countryside were more happier

0:55:000:55:04

-than living in the city.

-Yeah.

0:55:040:55:06

So my advice is, it might be like starting from scratch again

0:55:060:55:11

if you decide to move but, for the kids,

0:55:110:55:13

they would love the countryside.

0:55:130:55:16

-Yes.

-They are really...

0:55:160:55:17

They're really active. Really active kids.

0:55:170:55:20

But it is a big decision.

0:55:200:55:23

-It's a difficult one.

-It is. Yeah. Yes, yes.

0:55:230:55:27

This whole experience has opened my eyes

0:55:270:55:30

to what life might be like back in the UK,

0:55:300:55:33

and it has set me thinking about how to stimulate community

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and shared life with other people wherever I am.

0:55:380:55:42

And it will be very influential throughout the rest of my life.

0:55:430:55:47

My advice for you, if I could be so bold,

0:55:470:55:50

I think opening a shop is a vital way

0:55:500:55:53

of keeping your heritage alive,

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because it's generating money.

0:55:560:55:58

And I think the way to do both of those things

0:55:580:56:00

is to start selling crafts

0:56:000:56:02

and use the internet to let people know you're there.

0:56:020:56:07

So, to help in some small way, I set up a social media page for you.

0:56:070:56:12

I think that will be very useful.

0:56:120:56:15

Your daughter taught me similar stuff,

0:56:150:56:19

and putting it together may be very helpful for me in the future.

0:56:190:56:24

-Thank you so much for your encouragement.

-Yeah.

0:56:240:56:28

He tried to encourage me. I will take it seriously.

0:56:280:56:31

If you are not careful, we would lose our culture and craft.

0:56:310:56:36

So, actually, that's something very important to be considered,

0:56:360:56:39

to start selling my craft.

0:56:390:56:42

-OK, John.

-Good to know you.

0:56:420:56:43

-Nice meeting you.

-See you.

-Yeah.

-See you.

0:56:430:56:46

-Yeah, man.

-Yeah. Good one.

-Yes.

-What a way to meet, eh?

-Yes!

0:56:460:56:50

-Incredible, incredible.

-Unbelievable.

0:56:500:56:53

-See you again sometime, I hope.

-Yeah, goodbye.

0:56:530:56:55

-Bye-bye.

-OK, bye. See you.

0:56:550:56:59

'It is one of the biggest adventures I went on.

0:56:590:57:01

'But the tool-making was one big thing for me.'

0:57:010:57:04

The little that I have learned in a short time

0:57:040:57:07

is going to make a big difference for life back home.

0:57:070:57:10

This whole experience has motivated me

0:57:120:57:16

to really squeeze the marrow out of life

0:57:160:57:19

and not just sit around at home

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in front of a TV or a computer waiting to die.

0:57:230:57:27

I want to live - and I only get one life, so I want to live it!

0:57:280:57:32

DOORBELL RINGS

0:57:380:57:40

Hello, what are you doing here?!

0:57:410:57:43

-Yay!

-Hello!

0:57:430:57:45

Hello, hello, hello! How are you?

0:57:550:57:57

-Next time...

-Good grief!

0:58:080:58:10

..a sheltered fisherwoman

0:58:100:58:12

is dropped into one of the world's busiest cities...

0:58:120:58:15

So many people, so much noise!

0:58:150:58:16

..while a city slicker is forced to cope with the muck of country life.

0:58:160:58:20

I made the right decision - I didn't take my high heels.

0:58:200:58:23

They're a million miles from their comfort zones.

0:58:230:58:26

What do I do with this?

0:58:260:58:27

I've not done this before.

0:58:270:58:29

-Keep going.

-OK!

0:58:290:58:30

-Will they survive their new lives...

-Right.

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..and can they change the way they lead their own?

0:58:320:58:35

I hope I can learn to be more perfect.

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