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Hugh Cudlipp was the youngest Fleet Street editor | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
of his generation and the outstanding one. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
He was born and raised in Cardiff. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
He changed how newspapers communicated. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
Who do you go to next? | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
Dealing with him was like dealing with a superstar. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
I don't know I've ever encountered a genius really. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
But, if I have, Hugh was a journalistic genius. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
He lived for the thrill of being at the heart of public life. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:38 | |
With his mentor, Cecil King, Cudlipp transformed tabloid journalism | 0:00:38 | 0:00:42 | |
in Britain, making the Daily Mirror the world's best selling newspaper. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:46 | |
He'd embraced a whole spectrum of ideas and people, | 0:00:47 | 0:00:52 | |
and it was on the side of the people. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
Under Cudlipp, the Mirror became a tabloid with a conscience. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
The paper that was both intelligent and sensational. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
I'm in favour of bosoms and bums, | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
though I describe them more elegantly. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
But Cudlipp would ultimately have to turn the knife on the man | 0:01:08 | 0:01:12 | |
who'd become a father figure to him. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:13 | |
Hugh Kinsman Cudlipp was born in the Cathays areas of Cardiff in 1913. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:34 | |
He was one of four children, three boys and a girl, | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
born to travelling salesman, William Cudlipp, and his wife, Bessie. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
My father was a commercial traveller. He did more travelling than commerce. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:47 | |
He was a very nice chap and hated sending people the bills. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:52 | |
My mother, on the other hand, | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
I think she was the driving force in the family. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
She was the girl with the great character. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
Cudlipp described his mother as a raconteur who could create | 0:01:58 | 0:02:03 | |
tragedy or comedy from over-the-wall gossip. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
He inherited her lively interest in the local scene. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
He was always out in the streets talking to the Chinese laundry man, | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
talking to the milkman, talking to people about what was current. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:19 | |
All three Cudlipp brothers would grow up to become Fleet Street editors. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
The first to enter the business was the eldest, Percy. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:28 | |
When he got a job with the South Wales Echo as a teenager, | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
he was impressed by the perks that went with it. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
I went into journalism for a mundane reason - | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
that he used to come home with his pockets full of free tickets to cinemas. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
There was nothing noble about why I went into this profession. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
I used to see the old replays at the Olympia cinema free of charge | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
and I thought he was onto a good thing. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
When Hugh wasn't at the pictures, | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
he attended Howard Gardens Secondary School | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
which he described as a "joyless purgatory". | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
He left at the first opportunity - he was 14 - to spend three years | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
pounding the streets of Penarth learning the newspaper trade. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
He went to the Penarth News, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
a wonderful little newspaper which lasted for a short period of time | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
by a man who funded it through his milk round. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:15 | |
It was on a shoestring. Cudlipp was a pupil reporter. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
The Penarth News folded and eventually Hugh headed north | 0:03:18 | 0:03:23 | |
to find work as a junior reporter with the Manchester Evening Chronicle. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:27 | |
Having seen the, as a child, the 1926 Strike | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
and then heading on to Manchester | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
and having, as a reporter, had a close up view of the cotton strike, | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
and then having worked in Blackpool which at that time | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
was a fairly corrupt city, I suppose at a fairly tender age I had a wider | 0:03:41 | 0:03:46 | |
experience of life that I would have had had I gone to university. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
In Blackpool, Hugh was fascinated by the sensational | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
showmanship of the Pleasure Beach, mixing with the crowds | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
of working class holiday-makers and taking note of what captivated them. | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
What he did was to listen to what people were talking about. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:07 | |
What they were talking about in pubs, on the doorstep, | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
in the streets, on the buses. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
That's what he incorporated in his journalism. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
He served his apprenticeship in the regional press | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
but Cudlipp wanted a bigger stage for his talents. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
At the age of 21, | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
he joined a newspaper that changed popular journalism in Britain. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
"The Daily Mirror, 12th June 1935. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
"Dear Mr Cudlipp, we're glad to offer you | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
"the post of Assistant Feature Editor of this paper. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
"I shall look forward to hearing that you can take this job on | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
"as it seems to me that you are just the man we want, both for it | 0:04:39 | 0:04:43 | |
"and for others later on." | 0:04:43 | 0:04:44 | |
The Mirror's editorial director, Harry Guy Bartholomew, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
was the first British newspaperman to employ the eye-catching techniques | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
of American tabloids and ad agencies. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
Difficult, chunky character with a very mercurial personality. | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
But he had a restless genius which wanted to change, | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
what was then, a very prosaic, middle class, failing, | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
dull newspaper, into something more exciting. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
In fact, into a working class paper. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
Cudlipp learned a lot from Bart, but the man who would become | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
his true soul mate at the Mirror was the then advertising director, Cecil King. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:23 | |
Educated at Winchester and Oxford, | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
King came from a family of great press barons. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
He looked like a Roman emperor. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
He used to wear these huge, baggy Savile Row suits. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
He spoke like an Edwardian. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
He used to say, "goin'" and "gels" and had a very clipped voice. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
Quite high pitched. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
He was the most aristocratic human being I've ever met. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
I met all the royal family, as editor you do, | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
and they all seemed quite common compared with Cecil King. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
King recognised Cudlipp's talent as a journalist. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
Two years after Cudlipp's arrival at the Mirror, King poached him | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
from Harry Guy Bartholomew to head up another Mirror Group paper, | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
the Sunday Pictorial. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:04 | |
Bart never forgave Cudlipp for defecting | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
but King rewarded his new protege by making him Fleet Street's youngest editor. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:12 | |
He thought that this character, aged 24, | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
would have a certain amount of experience in journalism | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
but not much experience of life and not a great deal of education, and not a great deal of knowledge. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:23 | |
He thought that he could work with me and he said, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
"You may be 24 but I hereby anoint you editor | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
"and nobody has ever been appointed editor at 24 before." | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
Cecil was Hugh's father substitute. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
He found Hugh, really. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
He always said that he had sought to educate him. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
Hugh was always very funny about this. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
He used to say, "Cecil King used to send me lots and lots of books | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
"to read and I'd say I'd read them but I never read a single one." | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
Cudlipp may have neglected his reading list but he relished | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
the practical lessons in world affairs that King gave him. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
If somebody is prepared to send me around the world a dozen times | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
from the North Pole to the South Pole, and from the East to West | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
and even diagonally, it is the sort of patronage I enjoy and welcome. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
Cudlipp was his golden boy. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
He knew that he'd found Cudlipp, | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
someone who could translate his thoughts and ideas | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
into popular journalism, which Hugh could. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
Cudlipp had taken over the Pictorial at a key moment in world history. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
With Fascism on the rise, British newspapers were divided | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
between those that sought to appease Hitler | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
and those that shared Winston Churchill's deep distrust of him. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:42 | |
Did you support Churchill when he was a voice in the wilderness? | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
Not only, my friend, did we support him, | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
I paid him money for writing articles for the Daily Mirror | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
and personally when to see him at Chartwell to sign him up | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
for ten more articles in the Sunday Mirror as soon as I became editor. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
The answer is yes. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:57 | |
Cudlipp played his part in the war effort, initially writing editorials | 0:07:57 | 0:08:02 | |
championing Churchill and then volunteering for active service. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:07 | |
He was sent to Africa. He served as a platoon commander at El Alamein. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:11 | |
Then one day he was summoned to the North African Allied Forces' headquarters | 0:08:13 | 0:08:17 | |
where he was ordered to produce a newspaper for British troops. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
He used all his editorial skills to create Union Jack, | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
a paper that offered soldiers news, sport and entertainment. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:30 | |
He used to run stories about the indiscretions of officers. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
The way in which he did that was look at the court cases | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
about divorces and every time a military officer was involved | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
he would publish that as a story in the Union Jack. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
The troops loved it. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:46 | |
After peace was declared and Cudlipp was demobbed, | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
he returned to the Mirror Group. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:53 | |
But Harry Guy Bartholomew still bore a grudge against him. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
When Cudlipp made the mistake of spiking a supposedly | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
important story, Bart pounced. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
I left out a story about Cecil King in Africa, it doesn't matter. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
But I thought it wasn't very interesting, I put it on the spike. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
This was regarded as a matter of arrogance | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
which I suppose in retrospect it was! | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
Bartholomew had a great chance to fire me. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
However, my distress didn't last long. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
I went to a local pub to drown my sorrows with a friend | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
and somebody came over and said, "Here's a telegram." | 0:09:21 | 0:09:26 | |
So I opened this telegram, it was from Lord Beaverbrook who, | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
of course, owned the rival concern, the Daily Express Group, who was in Jamaica at the time. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:34 | |
The telegram said something like, | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
"Welcome to our house where you've been invited for so long." | 0:09:36 | 0:09:41 | |
So then I became the managing editor of the Sunday Express. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
Cudlipp wasn't away from the Mirror for long. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
Two years later, King arranged for Bart to be fired | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
and Hugh was welcomed back into the fold by his mentor. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
In the same year that he became editorial director | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
of both the Mirror and Pictorial, his elder brother, Percy, | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
was editing the Evening Standard and his brother, Reg, | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
was made editor of the News Of The World. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
The Cudlipp boys had made good. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
At the Mirror, Hugh and Cecil King set about building | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
an entertaining, intelligent paper for the masses. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
Millions of Britons who'd survived war and were now tasting austerity | 0:10:15 | 0:10:20 | |
were hungry for both social justice and a little light relief. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
What then does the Mirror stand for? | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
It doesn't bore its readers every day with what was said | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
last night in Westminster. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
It doesn't try to report at enormous and indigestible length | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
what happened in the United Nations. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
But if something important happens in the United Nations, | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
if something important happens in the economic front, | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
it goes flat out to explain that in strident, if you like, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
sensational terms to the largest audience it can reach. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
Hugh was characteristically strident | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
when the Conservative Chancellor of the Exchequer, Rab Butler, | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
a product of public school and Cambridge, | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
made a speech calling for the people of Britain to brace themselves | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
for the financially austere times ahead. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
He said, "We must not drop back into easy evenings | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
"with port wine and over-ripe pheasant." | 0:11:09 | 0:11:13 | |
I read this on a Sunday morning | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
and I thought not many readers of the Daily Mirror have a regular diet of over-ripe pheasant and vintage port. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:22 | |
So I telephoned Donald Zec. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
He said why don't you take 12 average British people | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
which are a busman or a greengrocer, | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
and take them to dinner and give them port wine and over-ripe pheasant. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:36 | |
I said, "When?" He said, "Tonight." And I said, "You can't be serious." | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
But I knew he was serious because he'd rung off. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
But we got the 12 people to dinner at the Savoy. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
One complained that it ponged a bit and another one confided to me | 0:11:45 | 0:11:49 | |
he wasn't sure whether he ought to eat to or step over it. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
I have never seen anybody | 0:11:53 | 0:11:54 | |
get hold of ephemera, get hold of an idea | 0:11:54 | 0:12:00 | |
and turn it into fact, turn it into readable matter | 0:12:00 | 0:12:05 | |
that combined not only verbal impact | 0:12:05 | 0:12:09 | |
but visual impact. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
What Cudlipp did have was an enormous flair. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
He knew the front page of the Daily Mirror and what to do with it. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
He introduced the language of conversation into headlines, | 0:12:19 | 0:12:24 | |
into the text. He was a talking journalist. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:29 | |
It wasn't written prose that you had to read out loud. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
The Mirror's prose was conversational. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
Cudlipp's colloquial style of journalism | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
was never more in evidence than in 1960 | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
when Prime Minister Harold Macmillan addressed delegates | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
at the United Nations, among them the Soviet leader, Nikita Khrushchev. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:49 | |
None of us particularly were welcome in our countries. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
A large number of officials... | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
A large number of officials from abroad... | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
A large numb... | 0:12:58 | 0:12:59 | |
HE SHOUTS IN RUSSIAN | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
I'd like it translated if you want to saying anything. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
Cudlipp took the front page of the Mirror | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
for this superb statement from the British people, really, | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
although it was written by Cudlipp. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
"Mr K. Don't be so bloody rude." | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
And then in a little box at the end, | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
"PS. Who do you think you are? Stalin?" | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
Cudlipp was a master at distilling complex political stories | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
into striking headlines. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
He wanted the Mirror's readers to understand what was happening | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
not just in Britain but on the far side of the world. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
This was the mid-1960s. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:42 | |
Vietnam was a war in distant Asia. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
It wasn't the huge divisive event that it became. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:53 | |
He called me up to his office | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
and he had on his desk a piece in the Guardian that had been picked up | 0:13:58 | 0:14:03 | |
from the St Louis Post-Dispatch by Martha Gellhorn, | 0:14:03 | 0:14:07 | |
the great American correspondent, | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
in which she wrote, "This is a war against civilians." | 0:14:09 | 0:14:14 | |
That was a pretty radical idea of war at that time. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:19 | |
He handed it to me and said, "I think she's on to something. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:25 | |
"Go and find out." | 0:14:25 | 0:14:26 | |
And I asked him was there anything else to his brief. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:31 | |
He said, "No, just go and find out." | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
The articles John Pilger wrote from Vietnam brought home | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
the reality of the war to Mirror readers. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
Cudlipp gave his journalists the freedom to do their work well | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
but if they failed to live up to his standards, they soon knew about it. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
Professionally, you always were ever so slightly on edge | 0:14:50 | 0:14:56 | |
because it would not take very much | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
to turn him from being amiable and good humoured, | 0:14:59 | 0:15:05 | |
into a person of irritation and aggravation | 0:15:07 | 0:15:11 | |
and possible bad behaviour. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
Are you consciously aware that you don't suffers fools gladly, | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
or easily? | 0:15:19 | 0:15:20 | |
Well, I see no reason why one shouldn't express an opinion | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
rather bluntly. It's quicker. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
It's possible to convey an opinion with one word | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
instead of a yard of reasoning or a tonne of rhetoric. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:34 | |
If so, I don't hesitate to do so. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
If Cudlipp was brutally direct, he could also be magnanimous, | 0:15:36 | 0:15:41 | |
as Felicity Green discovered. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
Having been off sick, she returned to work to find the morning's | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
editorial conference in full flow. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
Hugh looked at me and said, "You look awful." | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
The conference stopped while Hugh got Gwen on the phone | 0:15:52 | 0:15:57 | |
and I heard him say, "Gwen, get hold of Miss Green | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
"and organise ten days in Barbados for her." | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
I thought he was joking, but he wasn't. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
He sent me to Barbados to get better. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
Cudlipp really was a larger than life character, | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
who played as hard as he worked. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:16 | |
Nearly every weekend, he spends on his yacht. He's always had one. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:20 | |
He says he gets away from work by going to sea, | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
but he invariably takes his colleagues and friends with him | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
as crew. On Saturdays and Sundays, the newsroom floats. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:29 | |
Cudlipp is of course at the helm and always called captain. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:34 | |
'Hello?' Hello, Geoff. Hugh speaking. I'm calling from the boat. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
And of course, back home in Fleet Street, | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
they needn't think he's out of touch. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
The leader writers may curse | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
when he dictates front page pieces through the radio static. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
This is the thing which enables me to get away from the office. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
I remember dictating a very amusing leader about Lord Beaverbrook | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
called Sour Grapes, which we did off Falmouth in a rather heavy sea, | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
which was a suitable atmosphere for the subject. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
'When we were on his boat, | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
'you couldn't have had a more relaxed man. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
'He just was happy to do nothing,' | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
he just wanted to drink whatever it was we were drinking | 0:17:11 | 0:17:15 | |
and sit on the deck and go and eat in the local restaurant | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
and he had a huge propensity for enjoying himself. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:24 | |
Hugh's constant companion on his sailing trips down the Solent | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
was his third wife Jodi. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
Both his previous wives had died at an untimely age. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
His first wife died giving birth. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:37 | |
The first marriage was absolutely disastrous | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
and ended in an extremely sad way. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
And that's really why in Who's Who, | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
you will find second marriage to Eileen Ashcroft, | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
which was an extremely happy marriage, | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
and third to Jodi, which is also extremely happy. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
And I must say that the two particular ladies | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
I refer to have been an enormous help to me in my job. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
They sort of put up with the odd hours and the dashing around. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:04 | |
But if Cudlipp was enjoying the good life, | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
he was aware that many were not. In the pages of the Mirror, | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
he highlighted the real issues affecting readers' lives. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
Pollution, poor housing, low pay. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
He pioneered the Shock Issue, | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
which focused on a burning topic of the day. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
One of the first dealt with road safety. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
It had an extraordinary effect. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
It raised the level of the debate | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
and questions were asked in the House. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
It caused a... | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
a frisson which went through the country. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
The great point of publishing is the intense, volatile fun | 0:18:37 | 0:18:43 | |
which lasts, in fact, for 24 hours. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
You can find out what's going on, you can be at the centre of things, | 0:18:46 | 0:18:50 | |
you might subsequently be denounced by a judge for contempt of court, | 0:18:50 | 0:18:54 | |
you might be denounced in Parliament for contempt of Parliament, | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
but first you decide, then you publish | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
and then you take the praise or the punishment. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
The praise and the punishment for the Mirror's headlines | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
belonged to both Cudlipp and his chairman, Cecil King. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
Their bold interventions in the nation's life were | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
conceived during their daily meetings in King's 9th floor office. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
It's good news about these immigrants | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
because it was you who took it up first, wasn't it, | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
and since then, the other papers have taken it up | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
and the Government has taken it up and really something is | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
actually being done, which is welcome in this country. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
I thought the Government had a very good day of decision yesterday. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
There was one complete reversal of a former decision, | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
but on three difficult fronts, there was the smack of Government. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:43 | |
'The great thing King had was foresight. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
'He didn't think from day-to-day.' | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
He didn't think that editing a newspaper is a weekly job. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:54 | |
His great point was - where will we be in five years' time? | 0:19:54 | 0:19:58 | |
And I absorbed this sort of thinking from him, but it came from him. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:03 | |
In the late 1960s, | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
King's political ambitions began to run away with him. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
He lost faith in the Labour Prime Minister Harold Wilson's | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
handling of the country and began lobbying for a change of government. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:16 | |
So what are your relations with the Government today? | 0:20:16 | 0:20:20 | |
I think one could fairly say they are somewhat frostier than | 0:20:20 | 0:20:23 | |
they were at an earlier stage. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
But ministers are going round saying that in a few weeks' time, | 0:20:25 | 0:20:29 | |
the clouds will roll by and everyone will realise | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
what a parcel of geniuses they are and vote them | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
back into office in the next election. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
I think, on the other hand, | 0:20:38 | 0:20:39 | |
the clouds are going to get a great deal darker | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
and this parcel of geniuses will be chased | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
out of office for the incompetents they've shown themselves to be. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:50 | |
King's public criticism of the Government was as nothing | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
compared to what he was plotting in private. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
He met the recently retired Chief Of The Defence Staff to discuss | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
forming an emergency government. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
King went round people like Lord Mountbatten | 0:21:03 | 0:21:07 | |
and Solly Zuckerman, | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
who was the chief scientific officer to the Government at that time, | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
trying to build support for a coup against Wilson. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
So in some senses, | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
Lord Mountbatten could have been our head of government. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
When King declared on the front page of the Mirror that Wilson must go, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
it was a step too far for his fellow company directors. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
Disturbed by King's power games, | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
they began making plans for a coup of their own. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
I went to Hugh before any of the other directors did | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
and talked to him for several days about this. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
And Hugh agreed that Cecil's reign | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
should be terminated. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
The time had come when he was dominating affairs | 0:21:48 | 0:21:53 | |
to such a degree that those around him, and it was | 0:21:53 | 0:21:58 | |
everybody around him on the board, it was an unanimous decision, | 0:21:58 | 0:22:03 | |
decided that the time had come for him to go. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
He said, "Now, I will be in charge of the tactics | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
"because you're dealing with a very powerful person in Cecil King. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
Why was it that Cecil King was told of his dismissal | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
by the company secretary at eight o'clock one morning | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
and Hugh Cudlipp's courage apparently stopped short | 0:22:21 | 0:22:25 | |
of personally telling his old mentor | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
and father figure that he'd been fired? | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
I think we all have a point beyond which we cannot go. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
I don't think that he could bring himself to do this face to face. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:39 | |
It was something like patricide, as far as he was concerned. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:43 | |
'People on the Mirror heard about it | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
'because they had the TV on at lunchtime' | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
and there they were working away, they thought, for a company... | 0:22:48 | 0:22:52 | |
It wasn't owned, but run by Cecil King. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
And suddenly, the news came up he had been fired. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
When people are in a very powerful position, | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
and like King, pretty unapproachable, lonely, aloof, | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
and very ruthless himself, I certainly feel no guilt myself | 0:23:04 | 0:23:09 | |
about the excellent, detailed way in which his departure was planned. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
And Cecil's a man who knew that Fleet Street was a jungle | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
and I was wise enough, after all I'd been taught by him, to know | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
that there's nothing more dangerous in a jungle than a wounded tiger. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
Therefore, the division from the King regime had to be abrupt and final. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:29 | |
Cudlipp was unapologetic in public, but those closest to him | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
knew how hard it had been for him to fire King. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
It was the most heart-rending decision he ever made in his life. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:40 | |
And he never forgave himself. He never got over it. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
Cudlipp had lost his mentor. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
He was about to face a new and formidable competitor. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
At the start of the '60s, the Mirror Group had acquired an ailing | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
broadsheet called the Daily Herald. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
Cudlipp had relaunched it as a popular left wing paper which | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
he'd renamed the Sun, but this had failed to halt its decline. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:07 | |
I suppose that I've been associated with some flops in my time, | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
but that one takes priority. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:13 | |
It's most certainly the biggest flop that I've been concerned with. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
We failed totally. Rupert Murdoch... When I say we, I mean I. Yes. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
Cudlipp was faced with a choice. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
Close the paper with the loss of hundreds of jobs, or sell it. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:26 | |
He found a willing buyer in the shape of an Australian businessman called Rupert Murdoch, | 0:24:26 | 0:24:31 | |
who had already owned several newspapers down under. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
A lot of people, well-informed journalists and so on, refer | 0:24:34 | 0:24:38 | |
to these newspapers as being some of the worst newspapers in the world. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:42 | |
Well, that was said, of course, in the Sunday Observer, | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
which I suppose would be the least successful newspaper in the world. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:49 | |
So, they are entitled to their opinions, but I'm entitled to mine. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:53 | |
And so are my readers. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:55 | |
In the sense, both Cudlipp and Murdoch were outsiders. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
They were both antiestablishment in their inclinations. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
Both were natural rebels, in a sense, | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
in terms of the societies in which they functioned. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
Cudlipp had this sense of an educational mission. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:12 | |
Education was as important as sensation. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
Murdoch believed in sensation to make money. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
And Murdoch saw an opportunity to make money in Britain, | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
at the Mirror's expense. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
The Mirror was almost...lower middle-class paper by that time. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:29 | |
And Murdoch knew that there were a lot of people that had | 0:25:29 | 0:25:34 | |
lost their connection with the Labour Party and that they | 0:25:34 | 0:25:38 | |
wanted a less demanding paper than the Mirror was becoming. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:43 | |
And Murdoch saw this opportunity of coming under the Mirror with | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
a more popular paper, without any pretensions. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
Murdoch's new Sun hit the newsstands on the 17th of November 1969. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:55 | |
We all had a dinner on the night the Sun was launched. | 0:25:55 | 0:26:00 | |
I remember the editor, Lee Howard, | 0:26:00 | 0:26:04 | |
looking decidedly ill | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
when he saw the front page of the Sun, | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
which was a copy of a kind of down-market Mirror. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
There was a lot of rather hollow laughing that night - | 0:26:14 | 0:26:18 | |
look what the Sun had done - | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
but I think there was a sense of foreboding. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
There were those among us on the Mirror who made sure | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
that our paper was as attractive to women as it was to men. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
The Sun just dived straight in | 0:26:32 | 0:26:36 | |
to the sexy bare-breasted Page 3 girls. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:41 | |
And the sexy new Sun connected with a male working class | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
readership during the early 1970s. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:50 | |
The Sun had an immediate impact on the Mirror. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:55 | |
And I think Hugh Cudlipp was...rather thrown by that. | 0:26:55 | 0:27:02 | |
He misjudged Murdoch. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
After five decades in the newspaper business, | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
Cudlipp had finally met his match, | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
though he was characteristically philosophical about it. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:14 | |
Rupert is more of a businessman than a journalist | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
though, of course, he's a fully qualified journalist. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
But I think that his principle interest in life is the cash register | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
and I don't think that the cash register was a principle interest in my life. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:30 | |
In 1973, at the age of 60, Hugh Cudlipp retired. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:35 | |
After leaving Fleet Street, | 0:27:35 | 0:27:36 | |
he could be found messing about on his boat, | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
drinking in the pub he created at the bottom of his garden | 0:27:39 | 0:27:43 | |
and even threatening to write the odd play. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
I don't want to be the oldest tabloid journalist in the world. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
I wouldn't like that inscribed on my tombstone. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
I'd rather be a young, untried and flopped playwright | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
and have that engraved on my tombstone. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
But I'm not at all worried about failure in anything I do. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
I go back to the drawing board and say, "I can't do that, I'll do this." | 0:28:02 | 0:28:06 | |
I'm not terribly conscious of failure. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
And he had little cause to be. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
He'd come a long way from his days as a cub reporter. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:16 | |
As the Welshman behind the world's best selling newspaper, | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
his vivid prose and pictures changed print journalism for good. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:25 | |
On the 18th of May 1998, | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
84 years after Hugh Cudlipp's arrival on the scene, | 0:28:27 | 0:28:31 | |
the Daily Mirror carried the one headline he would never read. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:35 | |
He was the most talented journalist I've ever, ever encountered. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:40 | |
He was a magician with words. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
He pioneered campaigning, crusading journalism. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:47 | |
I remember him with enormous affection. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:51 | |
I liked him as a newspaper man. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
He was an old-fashioned newspaper man. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
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