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If you would tell us your name Mark Zuckerberg. M-A-R-K | :00:07. | :00:17. | |
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Would you describe yourself as the has gone from college student to | :00:21. | :00:31. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 48 seconds | :00:31. | :01:20. | |
You are one of the top ten entrepreneurs who has ever existed. | :01:20. | :01:27. | |
But the sign of the Facebook, is it a sign of a dot com bubble. Not | :01:27. | :01:30. | |
everyone sees it as a good investment. Would you advise | :01:30. | :01:35. | |
somebody to put it into shares. The danger is that people get | :01:35. | :01:39. | |
carried away and there will not be another one like it. Plough it and | :01:39. | :01:43. | |
bid up the price to unrealistic levels. | :01:43. | :01:46. | |
Zukhra claim it is is not just about money. He is on a bigger | :01:46. | :01:50. | |
mission. If you go back most people in the | :01:50. | :01:56. | |
world had no voice no or podium to share things. Now everyone does. | :01:56. | :02:00. | |
Zukhra's creation has produced lawsuits, accusations of privacy | :02:00. | :02:03. | |
invasion and even inspired a Hollywood movie. | :02:03. | :02:10. | |
Do you see your code on face bobbing? With exclusive access, we | :02:10. | :02:14. | |
examine why Facebook believe it is is worth billions and ask if | :02:14. | :02:18. | |
investors will bet their money on Mark Zuckerberg's ability to create | :02:18. | :02:23. | |
a massive business out of the massive popularity of Facebook. | :02:23. | :02:27. | |
Sorry, I'm nervous, we have the President of The United States | :02:27. | :02:31. | |
here! APPLAUSE My name is Barack Obama, I'm the guy who got Mark to | :02:31. | :02:41. | |
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wear a jacket and tie! I'm very thousands of software developers, | :02:47. | :02:52. | |
The biggest act on the bill is still just 27 years old but no-one doubts he's the boss. | :02:52. | :02:58. | |
CEO Mark Zuckerberg! | :02:58. | :03:02. | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | :03:02. | :03:06. | |
Yeah! | :03:06. | :03:11. | |
Come on! | :03:11. | :03:13. | |
Hey welcome to F8. We're going to change the universe! | :03:14. | :03:19. | |
Zuckerberg himself waits in the wings, enjoying his very own warm-up act. | :03:19. | :03:24. | |
What the hell are you doing? Er... | :03:24. | :03:29. | |
I'm Mark Zuckerberg. No, I'M Mark Zuckerberg. | :03:29. | :03:34. | |
The real Mark Zuckerberg is no longer the new kid on the block. | :03:34. | :03:38. | |
By now, I think that most people see that social networks | :03:38. | :03:42. | |
are going to be a ubiquitous tool used by billions | :03:42. | :03:45. | |
of people around the world to stay connected everyday. | :03:45. | :03:55. | |
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There | :04:06. | :04:06. | |
There is | :04:06. | :04:07. | |
There is an | :04:07. | :04:11. | |
There is an interest in the shares that has filtered down to the | :04:11. | :04:15. | |
average man on the streets. As the shares are in short supply, there | :04:15. | :04:20. | |
will be a huge demand. But this may not be a get-rich | :04:20. | :04:22. | |
quick scheme for the small share holder. | :04:22. | :04:27. | |
They call it dumb money in Silicon Valley. Those people who may not | :04:27. | :04:31. | |
know as much about the tech industry, they may want to invest | :04:31. | :04:36. | |
it is like a trophy share to have. Or those who know what it is about, | :04:36. | :04:41. | |
may be wanting to buy it to sell it on to dumb investors. | :04:41. | :04:47. | |
To avoid being a dumb investor, you have to take a close look at the | :04:47. | :04:49. | |
company's product. Facebook's success starts with the ability to | :04:49. | :04:53. | |
suggest to people you may know from what you have told it about | :04:53. | :04:57. | |
yourself. You are then invited to connect to the people, making them | :04:57. | :05:01. | |
your Facebook friends. You may be surprised how many friends you can | :05:01. | :05:07. | |
accumulate, the average user has 14. Many have more. | :05:07. | :05:13. | |
200 or 250. Something around there.About 264. | :05:13. | :05:20. | |
500-odd. Between 600 and 700. Ch Close to | :05:20. | :05:25. | |
1,000. More than in real life. | :05:25. | :05:33. | |
what its users have put on there, on their willingness to keep posting- | :05:34. | :05:35. | |
You want us to share. Mmm. Why? | :05:35. | :05:37. | |
Well, the mission of the company is to make the world | :05:37. | :05:39. | |
more open and connected because we believe that | :05:39. | :05:42. | |
everyone will have a much better experience | :05:42. | :05:44. | |
when they're doing different things with their friends. | :05:44. | :05:46. | |
When there's more information out or you can discover great content through your friends | :05:46. | :05:48. | |
or you can discover new food that you want to eat or places to run or anything like that, | :05:48. | :05:50. | |
your world becomes a lot richer. | :05:50. | :05:55. | |
Zuckerberg practises what he preaches, sharing a lot about his personal life | :05:55. | :05:58. | |
on his own Facebook page, which anyone can see. | :05:59. | :06:02. | |
He shows pictures with his long-term- girlfriend, Priscilla Chan, | :06:02. | :06:05. | |
lists his favourite movies and books | :06:05. | :06:08. | |
and records the life of his dog, Beast. | :06:08. | :06:10. | |
Come on, Beast, you got this, you got this! | :06:10. | :06:13. | |
Can we get some Eye Of The Tiger? | :06:13. | :06:14. | |
LAUGHTER | :06:14. | :06:18. | |
Our development is guided by the idea that every year | :06:18. | :06:21. | |
the amount that people want to add and share and express is increasing. | :06:21. | :06:30. | |
APPLAUSE For many, it's now as much a necessity as a choice. | :06:30. | :06:32. | |
There is social pressure to join it- and if you're not part of it you don't get invited to certain things. | :06:32. | :06:35. | |
I always said I'd never us it but since I've got it, I've ended up using it more and more and more. | :06:35. | :06:39. | |
What makes it so addictive is that you are... It's like living a second life. | :06:39. | :06:43. | |
No-one e-mails any more but everyone's posting on Facebook. | :06:43. | :06:48. | |
Facebook not only attracts massive numbers of users - 800 million at the last count - | :06:48. | :06:56. | |
but more surprisingly, every day half of them log on to the site | :06:56. | :06:58. | |
making it the stickiest on the internet. | :06:58. | :07:00. | |
Now Zuckerberg wants them to get even more attached. | :07:00. | :07:02. | |
We're not trying to make it so that- people spend more time on Facebook, | :07:02. | :07:04. | |
we're trying to make it so that the time that you spend | :07:04. | :07:06. | |
is so valuable that you want to keep on coming back every day. | :07:06. | :07:16. | |
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Zuckerberg | :07:21. | :07:21. | |
Zuckerberg plans | :07:21. | :07:21. | |
Zuckerberg plans to | :07:21. | :07:26. | |
Zuckerberg plans to sell off a small propotion of his shares. That | :07:26. | :07:30. | |
is still expected to bring him a billion dollars. Since Facebook is | :07:30. | :07:35. | |
his baby, what users think of him is critical to their willingness to | :07:35. | :07:40. | |
trust him with personal information. As an investment adviser, Josh | :07:40. | :07:44. | |
Brown has been studying Facebook since the early days. | :07:44. | :07:48. | |
The bonfire of Mark Zuckerberg's coolness has been lit. Nobody looks | :07:48. | :07:53. | |
at Zuckerberg as a paragon of cool, he is looked at as what he is, | :07:53. | :07:58. | |
which is a tech Titan. He is looked more along the lines of Bill Gates | :07:58. | :08:02. | |
than a rock star. The rock star phase ended when we started talking | :08:03. | :08:12. | |
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about 50 billion, 100 billion. Now Zuckerberg's journey began eight | :08:27. | :08:34. | |
years ago. He studied at Harvard University. | :08:35. | :08:39. | |
I remember hanging out with my friends, going to the local pizza | :08:39. | :08:45. | |
place, talking about in the future, you being able to sure share the | :08:45. | :08:49. | |
stuff you want and have access to all of the things you are doing and | :08:49. | :08:54. | |
sharing experiences, but figured that someone else would do it. | :08:54. | :08:59. | |
Who were we. We really wanted this to exist. So we focused on it | :08:59. | :09:02. | |
probably more than anyone else. We are one of the companies that is | :09:02. | :09:12. | |
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computer science. Decades earlier, The thing I would say about | :09:14. | :09:17. | |
he was very eager to learn and very sceptical | :09:17. | :09:19. | |
about whether anything we were teaching him was actually | :09:19. | :09:21. | |
the right things for him to learn. | :09:21. | :09:25. | |
I think Bill Gates had exactly the same feeling. | :09:25. | :09:29. | |
It was not disrespect for what was being taught | :09:29. | :09:30. | |
but maybe not exactly what he was interested in and so on. | :09:30. | :09:33. | |
So he was absorbing everything and not paying any attention to it at the same time. | :09:33. | :09:37. | |
Zuckerberg's invention of Facebook began with a false start. | :09:37. | :09:41. | |
At the time a Facebook was just thename of this kind of printed album of students photos and details. | :09:41. | :09:45. | |
Zuckerberg used his fellow students' Facebook pictures | :09:45. | :09:48. | |
to make a mischievous website, to rate their looks. | :09:48. | :09:52. | |
Kind of as a prank my roommates and I came up with this idea that | :09:52. | :09:55. | |
we'd go through and take all the pictures off of all the Facebooks and make a site that | :09:55. | :10:01. | |
juxtaposed two of the same gender and let users click on the one that- they thought was more attractive. | :10:01. | :10:07. | |
He called it Facemash. | :10:07. | :10:10. | |
Within hours of going online, there were complaints to the university authorities. | :10:10. | :10:14. | |
So you have a website that kisses off the administration. | :10:14. | :10:17. | |
I almost got kicked out of school for that. | :10:17. | :10:19. | |
HE LAUGHS | :10:19. | :10:22. | |
Yeah, that was a little chequered point in our history. | :10:22. | :10:24. | |
Joe Green was Zuckerberg's collaborator and roommate. | :10:24. | :10:27. | |
You can see Mark's mind at work, figuring out these social dynamics. | :10:27. | :10:34. | |
The Facemash was literally up for four or five hours and was like | :10:34. | :10:35. | |
the most used site on campus on a Sunday afternoon. | :10:35. | :10:39. | |
Harvard had been planning to put its facebooks online but shelved | :10:39. | :10:42. | |
the idea because of privacy issues highlighted by Facemash. | :10:42. | :10:48. | |
Harvard issued a statement that because of privacy concerns that I'd raised from this prank, | :10:48. | :10:52. | |
their online facebook would be delayed indefinitely. | :10:52. | :10:56. | |
So I was like well you know that's a bit like ridiculous like | :10:56. | :10:59. | |
these websites aren't that hard to make so I'll just kind of throw one together | :10:59. | :11:02. | |
in a week or a week and a half and we'll have our online Facebook. | :11:02. | :11:06. | |
So I did and that was "Thefacebook." | :11:06. | :11:09. | |
Thefacebook, as it was called, got round the privacy problem by inviting | :11:09. | :11:12. | |
people to post their own information which they were eager to do. | :11:12. | :11:17. | |
Within a few days thousands of people were, were on it at Harvard and I remember in | :11:17. | :11:21. | |
the first week alone I'd come home from classes and see that | :11:21. | :11:25. | |
10% of students at Harvard were logged on at any one point in time.- Then that was just really cool. | :11:25. | :11:30. | |
So then by the second week we'd all these people | :11:30. | :11:33. | |
from other colleges around us like MIT and other colleges | :11:33. | :11:36. | |
in the neighbourhood were e-mailing- in asking if we could release Facebook at their schools too. | :11:37. | :11:43. | |
Zuckerberg wasn't your typical geek. He was as interested in | :11:43. | :11:46. | |
how people were using Facebook as in its computer code. | :11:46. | :11:51. | |
Is it the human side that drives you on this rather than thetechnological, the computing side? | :11:51. | :11:57. | |
It's really both. I took a lot of computer science classes and I was formerly a psychology major | :11:57. | :12:02. | |
and I think that those two things together really represent the DNA of what Facebook is. | :12:02. | :12:08. | |
We're a technology company and we design social products and there are a lot of | :12:08. | :12:12. | |
technology companies and a lot of people who think about social issues | :12:12. | :12:15. | |
but there aren't a lot of people doing both. | :12:15. | :12:18. | |
The genius is when you get a really creative person who can take different disciplines, | :12:18. | :12:22. | |
different subject matters and find where the opportunities are and spend lots of time being | :12:22. | :12:27. | |
creative with them and, and that certainly something that Zuckerberg- took advantage of while he was here. | :12:27. | :12:33. | |
There aren't many 20-something's whose lives have been turned into | :12:33. | :12:36. | |
a Hollywood movie but Zuckerberg's has. | :12:36. | :12:39. | |
This site's life. | :12:39. | :12:42. | |
You know what? Let's go get a drink and celebrate. | :12:42. | :12:45. | |
The truth about Facebook's origins will always be compared to the story told in The Social Network. | :12:45. | :12:50. | |
This movie is, like it or not, the de facto myth to how Facebook was created. | :12:50. | :12:57. | |
I've covered this story for years | :12:57. | :12:59. | |
and I still have to think, "Now is this how it happened? | :12:59. | :13:04. | |
"Or is this how the movie said it happened?" | :13:04. | :13:06. | |
And that likely will always be true. | :13:06. | :13:08. | |
"As of yesterday evening," Zuckerberg said, | :13:08. | :13:10. | |
"over 650 students had registered to use thefacebook.com." | :13:11. | :13:13. | |
The movie centres on Zuckerberg's legal battle with his two fellow students, the Winklevoss twins. | :13:13. | :13:18. | |
If I was a drug dealer I couldn't give free drugs to 650 people in one day. | :13:18. | :13:22. | |
This guy doesn't have three friends to rub together. | :13:22. | :13:25. | |
In highlighting the Winklevoss case, | :13:25. | :13:28. | |
the movie underplays the existence at the time of other social networks. | :13:28. | :13:33. | |
Even before he went to Harvard,Zuckerberg had worked on a website | :13:33. | :13:36. | |
at his school, which included an online student facebook. | :13:36. | :13:40. | |
And millions were already signed up to the social networks Friendster and MySpace. | :13:40. | :13:45. | |
In Britain, Friends Reunited had16 million users - social networkswere a feature of university life. | :13:45. | :13:53. | |
At campuses across the country tons of students were thinking up Facebook. | :13:53. | :13:57. | |
Maybe they didn't call it Facebook but at Brown University there was a- site at Columbia University | :13:57. | :14:02. | |
there was a site, at the University of Texas there was a site and on and on and on and on. | :14:02. | :14:07. | |
The Winklevoss twins really did dispute ownership of Facebook and have done for years. | :14:07. | :14:12. | |
Our idea was stolen | :14:12. | :14:13. | |
by Mark Zuckerberg and we're basically trying to retrieve that back. | :14:13. | :14:17. | |
Can I get a large coffee, please? | :14:17. | :14:20. | |
Four years later Facebook settled with the Winklevoss' | :14:20. | :14:23. | |
for $65 million while still denying their claims. | :14:23. | :14:29. | |
Zuckerberg's former roommate Joe Green now runs his own online business but at college he | :14:29. | :14:34. | |
turned down an offer from Zuckerberg probably the best business offer ever | :14:34. | :14:37. | |
made to anyone this century on parental advice. | :14:37. | :14:42. | |
There was a moment when no-one knew what we'd be seeing | :14:42. | :14:45. | |
seven years down the line and youwere invited to become part of it? | :14:45. | :14:49. | |
Yeah, I was asked to be a sort of part of it, cofounder | :14:49. | :14:55. | |
and I ended up... Zuck likes to jokingly call the billion dollar mistake but I, | :14:55. | :14:59. | |
combination of, erm... We got into a bit of trouble for Facemash | :14:59. | :15:03. | |
and my father's a professor and wasn't super-thrilled about that. | :15:03. | :15:07. | |
What was the conversation you had with your dad? | :15:07. | :15:09. | |
You know he was just, "You shouldn't be doing any more of- these Zuckerberg projects." | :15:09. | :15:13. | |
But it's all good now. | :15:13. | :15:18. | |
With its Harvard origins, simple design and Zuckerberg's determination | :15:18. | :15:22. | |
never to let it crash,Facebook became the student network. | :15:22. | :15:27. | |
Zuckerberg began to wonder if it could be a real business | :15:27. | :15:31. | |
and whether he should drop out of college to find out. | :15:31. | :15:35. | |
I don't think Mark's family was hugely resistant to him | :15:35. | :15:38. | |
dropping out and trying this idea. | :15:38. | :15:40. | |
Of course any parent wants their kid to get a college degree | :15:41. | :15:44. | |
even if they've become a billionaire | :15:44. | :15:47. | |
probably you know many parents would say, "It'd be good for you." | :15:47. | :15:50. | |
But I think that does begin to wane after the second or third billion, perhaps. | :15:50. | :16:00. | |
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As the summer vacation arrived, Zuckerberg moved from east coast | :16:01. | :16:06. | |
to west swapping university lifefor a new one in California at the heart of the technology business. | :16:06. | :16:14. | |
There's only so long that you can build a high-tech company in | :16:14. | :16:20. | |
This is where Zuckerberg ended up, a small house in Silicon Valley 30 miles south of San Francisco. | :16:20. | :16:24. | |
He was joined by his Harvardfriends. The students were pleased | :16:24. | :16:27. | |
to find that this being California, the new home included a pool. | :16:27. | :16:33. | |
Go! Go! Ahhhh! | :16:33. | :16:39. | |
I didn't die. I know. | :16:39. | :16:41. | |
The Social Network movie shows how they used it. | :16:41. | :16:44. | |
OK. Ready... | :16:44. | :16:46. | |
Zuckerberg was starting to make media contacts. | :16:46. | :16:49. | |
So I took a phone call with this young guy | :16:49. | :16:51. | |
and there was all this noise | :16:52. | :16:53. | |
in the background and he told me it- was because he was living in a house in Palo Alto with his friends | :16:53. | :16:57. | |
and they were all in the backyard | :16:57. | :16:59. | |
and he had all kinds of things, stretched out in the backyard. | :17:00. | :17:03. | |
He had a zip line across the backyard and they were all hanging out. | :17:03. | :17:09. | |
Those who studied Facebook's history-say this was only part of the story. | :17:09. | :17:17. | |
Zuckerberg was serious about Facebook | :17:17. | :17:19. | |
but the tales of poolside parties weren't pure Hollywood mythology. | :17:19. | :17:22. | |
The owner's inventory when thestudents left lists barbeque ashes dumped in a flowerpot, | :17:22. | :17:27. | |
a pool filter shattered by broken glass, damage to a chimney from a zip wire. | :17:27. | :17:34. | |
I think it's probably fair to saythere wasn't all work that summer. | :17:34. | :17:38. | |
# Disco sounds, it's all on the west coast... # | :17:38. | :17:42. | |
By the autumn, Facebook had reached 200,000 users. | :17:42. | :17:46. | |
Every day it needed to rent | :17:46. | :17:48. | |
more computing power and that meantlooking for some serious investment. | :17:48. | :17:52. | |
Facebook had reached a critical juncture. | :17:52. | :17:55. | |
How big did Zuckerberg want it to be? | :17:55. | :17:57. | |
He started making contact with Silicon Valley's venture capitalists. | :17:57. | :18:03. | |
He was in shorts and flip-flops, I mean there wasn't anything formal about it. | :18:03. | :18:08. | |
He got a meeting with veteran investor, Ron Conway. | :18:08. | :18:11. | |
I asked him how big can this company get? | :18:11. | :18:14. | |
He said, with a 100% conviction, "We can get to 300 million users." | :18:14. | :18:22. | |
Zuckerberg landed a first investment of $500,000. | :18:22. | :18:26. | |
He hired an office above a Chinese restaurant. | :18:26. | :18:30. | |
Within a few months Facebook reached its first million users. | :18:31. | :18:35. | |
18 months after the founding of Facebook a light bulb went on | :18:35. | :18:38. | |
in Zuck's mind and said, "Wow! This thing's growing at thousands of percent a month. | :18:38. | :18:45. | |
"This is a real company." Partying wasn't interesting any more. | :18:45. | :18:52. | |
In 2005, the year after it was launched, Facebook hit five million users. | :18:52. | :18:57. | |
The big investment companies in Silicon Valley's Sand Hill Road started paying serious attention. | :18:57. | :19:05. | |
Are you getting courted by | :19:05. | :19:07. | |
big companies that what to buy this? | :19:07. | :19:09. | |
Yeah, a few but it's a lot of work | :19:09. | :19:12. | |
to maintain it and to grow and add new stuff so there's not a lot of time to talk to people. | :19:12. | :19:20. | |
Soon the very biggest players in technology didn't just want to invest | :19:20. | :19:23. | |
in Facebook, they wanted to buy the entire business. | :19:23. | :19:29. | |
In 2006, Zuckerberg refused an offer from Yahoo for $1 billion. | :19:29. | :19:36. | |
Everyone around the company, a lot of the investors and the executives- were you know, it was like, | :19:36. | :19:40. | |
"You could sell this for $1 billion? | :19:40. | :19:43. | |
"What the hell's wrong with you?" | :19:43. | :19:44. | |
It takes an almost sort of insane degree of vision | :19:44. | :19:49. | |
and self-confidence to be able to sort of weather through that storm. | :19:49. | :19:52. | |
The next year Zuckerberg took a big gamble, freeing Facebook from the | :19:52. | :19:57. | |
world of universities by opening itup to anyone with an e-mail address. | :19:57. | :20:02. | |
Suddenly 50,000 new users a day were- joining. Dude, what's up? Dude, you're on TV? | :20:02. | :20:10. | |
Facebook was courted by Microsoft with an offer that made a billion look like an insult. | :20:10. | :20:15. | |
When Microsoft in 2007 offered $15 billion for it, he wasn't interested in taking that either. | :20:15. | :20:22. | |
That to me is the most amazing story | :20:22. | :20:26. | |
because when he was 23 years old he could have made over $4 billion | :20:26. | :20:29. | |
personally, by selling it. | :20:29. | :20:31. | |
He didn't even consider accepting it. I think that shows what kind of a guy he is. | :20:31. | :20:35. | |
The kind of offers that were coming in to you were like | :20:35. | :20:38. | |
15 billion from Microsoft, how does a 23-year-old manage to say no to that? | :20:38. | :20:43. | |
Well, the hardest one was when Yahoo offered us a billion dollars | :20:43. | :20:48. | |
because that was the first really big offer and at the time I knew nothing about business. | :20:48. | :20:54. | |
So I knew nothing about what a company would be worth and I had to | :20:54. | :20:57. | |
make this argument to people that somehow this was going to be the | :20:57. | :21:00. | |
right decision and from the people who weren't in it for the long-term I think a lot of them left. | :21:00. | :21:05. | |
And then we got a new wave of people who were really committed, | :21:05. | :21:07. | |
so that by the time that Microsoft and others tried to buy the company, we'd already made those decisions. | :21:07. | :21:11. | |
We knew we weren't going to sell the company and that we were going to build it. | :21:11. | :21:16. | |
It's one thing to run an insanely successful start-up. | :21:16. | :21:26. | |
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Six | :21:26. | :21:26. | |
Six years | :21:26. | :21:27. | |
Six years ago | :21:27. | :21:30. | |
Six years ago Facebook could have been sold for billions. By holding | :21:30. | :21:35. | |
his nerve, Zuckerberg made sure that the company stayed with staff | :21:35. | :21:40. | |
members and early investors. They can cash their shares at a high | :21:40. | :21:43. | |
price, late in the company's development. | :21:43. | :21:49. | |
In another error, Facebook would have come public early in the'S | :21:49. | :21:54. | |
development, probably in a billion or $2 billion evaluation. Then it | :21:54. | :21:59. | |
would have spent the next few years enriching public investors, instead | :21:59. | :22:03. | |
a lot of the products and the growth will have been harvested. | :22:03. | :22:09. | |
Bad news for outside investors if the company growth slows, but great | :22:09. | :22:13. | |
news for the original venture capitalists and staff members with | :22:13. | :22:16. | |
shares. To find out how Zuckerberg runs | :22:16. | :22:21. | |
Facebook as a big business, I asked senior manager, Dan Rose to give me | :22:21. | :22:31. | |
:22:31. | :22:32. | ||
This open kind lends itself to collaboration. | :22:32. | :22:34. | |
Well, Mark actually sits at a desk right over here just like everyone else. What, this is him? | :22:34. | :22:37. | |
This is him here, yeah. | :22:37. | :22:39. | |
With the famous hoodie? Yeah, There's his hoodie and a Mark Zuckerberg doll on his desk. | :22:39. | :22:41. | |
So he wants to sit out here, no office. | :22:41. | :22:42. | |
Yeah and he collaborates with everyone just like the rest of the company. | :22:42. | :22:48. | |
As Facebook has grown, Zuckerberg's tried to hang on to the energy and flexibility of a start-up. | :22:48. | :22:54. | |
"Move fast and break things" | :22:54. | :22:56. | |
is its unofficial motto. | :22:56. | :22:58. | |
Zuckerberg's still closely involved in the details. | :22:58. | :23:01. | |
He spends an enormous amount of time in the office. | :23:01. | :23:04. | |
One of the ways that he really operates is to engage with | :23:04. | :23:07. | |
our engineers and our product leaders | :23:07. | :23:10. | |
around the design of the new products that we're building. | :23:10. | :23:13. | |
But when he's not in the office, he's usually at home on Facebook | :23:13. | :23:16. | |
talking to all of our employees about different things that we're working on. | :23:16. | :23:20. | |
Andrew Bosworth is Facebook's chief engineer. | :23:20. | :23:24. | |
Before anything gets launched, he has to run it past the boss. | :23:24. | :23:27. | |
He's less concerned with the code He lets us deal with that. | :23:27. | :23:30. | |
But in terms of the look and feel and certainly | :23:30. | :23:32. | |
all the integration of the products | :23:32. | :23:34. | |
he's a strong voice and when | :23:34. | :23:36. | |
you're launching a product at Facebook, the Zucker view is kind of those things that | :23:36. | :23:40. | |
you really work towards and your product is really buttoned up and, | :23:40. | :23:43. | |
he uses all the products while you're being developed and gives notes like very kind of like | :23:43. | :23:47. | |
lengthy notes over the weekend so writing four or five paragraphs of things we need to do differently. | :23:47. | :23:51. | |
And tries to provide the high-level- direction so we understand | :23:51. | :23:54. | |
why he's doing things the way he's doing them. | :23:54. | :24:04. | |
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The | :24:08. | :24:08. | |
The shares | :24:08. | :24:08. | |
The shares will | :24:08. | :24:11. | |
The shares will hit the stock market soon, that could change | :24:11. | :24:14. | |
their motivation. Do you think that they will say, | :24:14. | :24:18. | |
now is the time to start being the entrepreneur myself? When it comes | :24:18. | :24:23. | |
to the time, the thing is, it is not necessarily a bad thing if they | :24:23. | :24:29. | |
go off. We have seen with the likes of Microsoft, Google, Apple, the | :24:29. | :24:32. | |
comparatives to Facebook, that you had that. That the company did not | :24:32. | :24:36. | |
suffer as a result. If people are concerned about doing other things | :24:36. | :24:40. | |
and don't have their focus on the game, you don't want them in the | :24:40. | :24:45. | |
company. So that is not an ongoing threat to the company if they lose | :24:46. | :24:51. | |
the odd billionaire secretary. Facebook has the classic Silicon | :24:51. | :24:56. | |
Valley office style. The food is free... You can get your washing | :24:56. | :25:02. | |
done... There are games to give your brain a rest from programming. | :25:02. | :25:12. | |
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Or you can RipStik and work on a the early hours, you don't have to | :25:13. | :25:23. | |
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At first, the growth had investors being a loud to beg for this | :25:39. | :25:45. | |
company to float. They were think being making serious money, but | :25:45. | :25:49. | |
how? There was a company legendary for building an audience before | :25:49. | :25:54. | |
finding a way of making money on a grand scale, Google. Zuckerberg | :25:55. | :25:57. | |
approached one of its star executives. Poaching Sheryl | :25:57. | :26:07. | |
Sandberg is seen as one of his at this little restaurant | :26:07. | :26:12. | |
at my house and Mark would say sometimes you know, | :26:12. | :26:13. | |
"I'm so sorry I can't invite you over for dinner." | :26:13. | :26:15. | |
But at the time he only had | :26:15. | :26:16. | |
I think a one... Not even a one bedroom, like a one-room apartment. | :26:17. | :26:18. | |
He didn't have any furniture, like he had a futon. | :26:18. | :26:20. | |
He thought that would be awkward, which it would have been. | :26:20. | :26:22. | |
We spent hours, dozens and dozens of hours on, | :26:22. | :26:24. | |
over weeks, just making sure that this was the right fit because it... | :26:24. | :26:26. | |
That's what's important, right? | :26:26. | :26:28. | |
There was no question about, "Is she good enough? | :26:28. | :26:32. | |
"Or is the company good enough?" It was all like just, "Are we trying to do the same thing?" | :26:32. | :26:36. | |
Eventually there was agreement and Sandberg switched from Google to Facebook. | :26:36. | :26:40. | |
Enter Sheryl Sandberg. Sheryl was necessary at that company | :26:40. | :26:43. | |
because she knew exactly how to build a company from start-up phase- to grown-up phase. | :26:43. | :26:49. | |
She'd done that very effectively at Google and most important, Sheryl had chemistry with Mark. | :26:49. | :26:55. | |
Sandberg knew exactly how Googlehad made a fortune from advertising. | :26:55. | :27:00. | |
On the very day Facebook was launched at Harvard, Sandberg was explaining to | :27:00. | :27:06. | |
BBC viewers why Google's advertising system works so well. | :27:06. | :27:10. | |
With Google you on the web searching for information | :27:10. | :27:13. | |
and we give you an ad as part of that search. | :27:13. | :27:16. | |
So it's integral to what you're already looking for. | :27:16. | :27:18. | |
Google offers advertisers the chance to put their message | :27:18. | :27:23. | |
Sandberg's challenge was to come up with Facebook's version of the Google money machine. | :27:23. | :27:26. | |
We don't compete in the search market, we're not competing for the Google ad dollars | :27:26. | :27:29. | |
in search marketing in the sense that when you are looking | :27:29. | :27:31. | |
for a product, you don't actually come to Facebook, you go to Google. | :27:31. | :27:36. | |
According to Sandberg,Facebook ads like TV or magazine ads | :27:36. | :27:39. | |
are there to tempt you with new products and ideas. | :27:39. | :27:43. | |
Where we are is actually in demand-generation. | :27:43. | :27:46. | |
So when you think about your TV TV ads that are shown to you, | :27:46. | :27:50. | |
other ads that are shown to you, you're not in active searching mode for something to buy. | :27:50. | :27:54. | |
You're not fulfilling demand - you're actually generating demand, | :27:54. | :27:57. | |
something you didn't know you wanted. | :27:57. | :27:59. | |
And when you think about what people are doing on Facebook, they're much more in discovery mode. | :27:59. | :28:03. | |
So could the fact that Facebook users aren't searching for products | :28:03. | :28:09. | |
or services be an advertising advantage | :28:09. | :28:11. | |
Some outsiders are sceptical. | :28:11. | :28:13. | |
Professor Ben Edelman studies online businesses. | :28:13. | :28:16. | |
They're hoping that advertisers will bet on the future value of a customer | :28:16. | :28:19. | |
even if in the short run | :28:19. | :28:21. | |
the customer actually doesn't buy much of anything at all. | :28:21. | :28:24. | |
If one accepts ephemeral value, value that's hard to measure, possible future value as reasons | :28:24. | :28:32. | |
to conduct the advertising, then it- certainly is possible to justify. | :28:32. | :28:36. | |
Of course that could justify just about anything. | :28:36. | :28:38. | |
Advertise on the far side of the moon and when the aliens finally get to you, | :28:38. | :28:42. | |
they'll know what they need to buy. | :28:42. | :28:44. | |
In comparison with Google, Facebook undeniably holds one trump card,which is already proving profitable. | :28:44. | :28:53. | |
Facebook is probably the most valuable | :28:53. | :28:55. | |
marketing research tool that's ever existed. | :28:55. | :28:57. | |
In a way, it's the most valuable research tool for anything about people that has ever existed. | :28:57. | :29:02. | |
Facebook lets advertisers reach large numbers of just the kind of people they want | :29:02. | :29:08. | |
by tapping into the information they've revealed about themselves whilst they're using the site. | :29:08. | :29:09. | |
When you place an ad on Facebook, which anyone can do from a normal laptop, | :29:09. | :29:12. | |
you get the chance to narrow downthe whole of the Facebook population | :29:12. | :29:13. | |
and target just the people you think- will be interested in your product. | :29:13. | :29:16. | |
So supposing you run a beauty salon and you've got a special offer for brides. | :29:17. | :29:22. | |
Facebook offers you access in the UK to 30 million people. | :29:22. | :29:27. | |
Now we're going to narrow it downand say, we're looking for the women. | :29:27. | :29:31. | |
Estimated reach is now telling meit's 15 million, about half of that. | :29:31. | :29:35. | |
So then we're trying to find the word that will target the right people, | :29:36. | :29:39. | |
so we're going to type in, in interests, the word 'beauty.' | :29:39. | :29:44. | |
And that's now brought the numberdown to just under half a million. | :29:44. | :29:48. | |
And now, because I'm targetingbrides, I can be even more specific, | :29:48. | :29:52. | |
I can go down to the relationship status box | :29:53. | :29:56. | |
and here I target those women who are 'engaged.' | :29:56. | :30:01. | |
And suddenly we've brought that number right down to 27,000 people. | :30:01. | :30:05. | |
And that is the way that the adverts- can be targeted precisely to the core demographic you want to reach. | :30:06. | :30:12. | |
The advertisers don't know who you are, doesn't know what your name is | :30:12. | :30:16. | |
or where you live, but it knows you as a number | :30:16. | :30:19. | |
and it can use that number. | :30:19. | :30:23. | |
Although anyone at home can place an ad on Facebook, | :30:23. | :30:27. | |
there's a new kind of agency turning out Facebook ads on an industrial scale. | :30:27. | :30:32. | |
TBG is a London company specialising in Facebook ads. | :30:32. | :30:36. | |
Its boss, Simon Mansell, | :30:36. | :30:37. | |
believes he's part of a big change in advertising. | :30:37. | :30:42. | |
It's turned much more from an art form to more of a science | :30:42. | :30:46. | |
and that's sometimes where some big- traditional companies have struggled | :30:46. | :30:50. | |
because they were artists and now they have to try and be scientists. | :30:50. | :30:53. | |
TBG doesn't rely on creatives toguess what people will respond to, | :30:53. | :30:58. | |
instead its software runs mass experiments on many possible versions of a Facebook ad. | :30:58. | :31:03. | |
Even though the ads are small, | :31:03. | :31:05. | |
there's three different parts of the ad - | :31:05. | :31:07. | |
the headline, the image and the little piece of copy for most Facebook ads | :31:07. | :31:11. | |
and there's 12 different targeting criteria. | :31:11. | :31:13. | |
Age, gender, relationship status, that kind of thing. | :31:13. | :31:17. | |
So once you've multiplied those up,- there's thousands of different permutations. | :31:17. | :31:21. | |
TBG typically tries 27,000 variants on an ad. | :31:21. | :31:27. | |
So it might be that a 25-year-old in New York City who likes cats | :31:27. | :31:30. | |
responds differently to a 33-year-old male in London who likes dogs. | :31:30. | :31:40. | |
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If | :31:51. | :31:51. | |
If it | :31:51. | :31:52. | |
If it sounds | :31:52. | :31:56. | |
If it sounds creepy, this is where it is heading. It is big data. This | :31:56. | :32:03. | |
is going to be a big user of advertising, Facebook will be | :32:03. | :32:07. | |
helpful. People know what people are doing, where people's heads are | :32:07. | :32:11. | |
at and the advertisers can take this data and tweak the marketing | :32:11. | :32:15. | |
message and this is worth more than you can possibly imagine. | :32:15. | :32:22. | |
With a massive network of personal information as its key business | :32:22. | :32:27. | |
assets, Facebook embarks on the stock market flotation earlier this | :32:27. | :32:31. | |
year. Facebook, expected to go to market | :32:31. | :32:37. | |
at a value of about �60 billion. In order to sell shares on the | :32:37. | :32:44. | |
stock market. Facebook had to summit -- subbit previously private | :32:44. | :32:50. | |
details to the financial regulator. There is much to boast about, the | :32:50. | :32:53. | |
extraordinary growth in users, the multi-billion dollar advertising | :32:53. | :32:59. | |
revenue, but for all that, some are sceptical about the company's real | :32:59. | :33:02. | |
potential. I have done calculations about the | :33:02. | :33:07. | |
growth that Facebook would have to achieve it would have to be about | :33:07. | :33:12. | |
8% revenue year on year. They managed that last year and Google | :33:12. | :33:17. | |
manages 80% revenue growth. So you are looking at them hitting a lot | :33:17. | :33:22. | |
of things, getting it right. Only then would the current price fairly | :33:22. | :33:25. | |
value them. But some analysts have more of a | :33:25. | :33:29. | |
gut reaction to Facebook's commercial potential. | :33:29. | :33:33. | |
The biggest worry is not the mathematics, but the worry is that | :33:33. | :33:39. | |
I have never met someone who has clicked on a Facebook advert. | :33:39. | :33:44. | |
Facebook has produced a video, if you think nobody has clicked on | :33:44. | :33:48. | |
adds, Sheryl Sandberg will set you rite. | :33:48. | :33:53. | |
The advertising revenue has gone from 200 million, to 3 .2 billion | :33:53. | :33:56. | |
last year. We have made progress, but we have just begin. | :33:56. | :34:00. | |
If there is a weakness in the advertising pitch, it is on mobile | :34:00. | :34:05. | |
phone devices where almost half a billion people use it. There is not | :34:05. | :34:11. | |
much room for adds on the screens, as the company admitted, they said | :34:11. | :34:15. | |
that on mobile, the ability is unproven it could affect revenue | :34:15. | :34:22. | |
and financial results. Facebook's concern about mobile was probably | :34:22. | :34:30. | |
behind the recent spending of $1 billion on Instagram. | :34:30. | :34:37. | |
They have paid a lot for an app that does not appear generate money. | :34:37. | :34:43. | |
Facebook says it kill still appear in its counterform. Some are | :34:43. | :34:46. | |
wondering if this is a technology bobble. | :34:46. | :34:51. | |
Ififies Facebook can make adds work on mobile, there is a wider | :34:51. | :34:55. | |
dedebate about Facebook and advertising. Started last year by | :34:55. | :34:59. | |
Sir Martin Sorrell. There is a primary social reaction, | :35:00. | :35:05. | |
not a commercial network. Therefore, I think that you use it at your | :35:05. | :35:10. | |
peril. The potential for Facebook is more in my mind as a public | :35:10. | :35:17. | |
relations medium than in your face Elliot Schrage deals with | :35:18. | :35:22. | |
that people come to Facebook for social and not commercial messages. | :35:22. | :35:24. | |
I think we're well on our way to finding a very protective balance | :35:24. | :35:27. | |
of providing people with information they want to receive from friends, | :35:27. | :35:29. | |
recognising that most people, when they're in their course of the Facebook experience, | :35:29. | :35:31. | |
are not focused on purely commercial activities. | :35:32. | :35:35. | |
Indeed, if you compare us to any online service, any newspaper, | :35:35. | :35:39. | |
I think the percentage of space devoted to commercially related | :35:39. | :35:43. | |
or commercially orientated messages- is tiny. | :35:43. | :35:49. | |
Now, if the first part of Facebook's strategy is to sell ads using its targeting ability, | :35:49. | :35:54. | |
the second it to invitebusinesses themselves on to Facebook | :35:54. | :35:58. | |
and they can set up their own pages. | :35:58. | :36:01. | |
Pages act pretty much like people on Facebook, | :36:01. | :36:05. | |
but instead of being friends with abusiness you can choose to 'like' it. | :36:05. | :36:12. | |
When you say you 'like' it, you're allowing it to send you messages, as you would a friend. | :36:12. | :36:18. | |
And if it strikes you as an odd thing to do, well, have a look at this. | :36:19. | :36:23. | |
Nearly 35 million people have pressed the 'like' button for Coca-Cola. | :36:23. | :36:32. | |
Rather than being the passive recipients of ads, | :36:32. | :36:36. | |
when people connect to Facebook pages, they're choosing to linkthemselves to brands and products. | :36:36. | :36:42. | |
Managing those relationships is a new kind of marketing. | :36:42. | :36:46. | |
Here in New York, Buddy Media helpsbig businesses talk to millions of people who 'like' them on Facebook. | :36:46. | :36:53. | |
If you're one of the top advertisers in the world, | :36:54. | :36:57. | |
we work with eight out of the top ten global advertisers. | :36:57. | :37:00. | |
You may have 400 brands | :37:00. | :37:02. | |
and you may do business in every country in every language | :37:02. | :37:05. | |
so what you need is the ability to really manage all this content globally. | :37:05. | :37:10. | |
And you cannot do it without software and then on top of- that we tell them what's working, | :37:10. | :37:15. | |
what's not working. How do you really optimise what's going on? | :37:15. | :37:18. | |
How you get the right content to the right people? | :37:18. | :37:22. | |
Companies try to get chatting to their Facebook fans because when anyone responds, | :37:22. | :37:27. | |
what they've said and the company's name will automatically spread to all their Facebook friends. | :37:27. | :37:34. | |
So now Pretzel Crisps is doing things like | :37:34. | :37:37. | |
posting the recipes of ways to eat pretzels | :37:37. | :37:41. | |
and asking questions and asking people to comment on these recipes. | :37:41. | :37:45. | |
You can see people are starting to engage, in this case 174 people have actually engaged, | :37:45. | :37:50. | |
in this conversation about these recipes. | :37:50. | :37:52. | |
Which you'd never be able to do anywhere else. | :37:52. | :37:56. | |
Marketing people call it 'word of mouth at scale.' | :37:56. | :38:00. | |
Social media for the last million years has been about just word of mouth | :38:00. | :38:04. | |
so even when the wheel was created, people said, | :38:04. | :38:08. | |
"Wow, the wheel is here, you've got to check this thing out!" | :38:08. | :38:11. | |
And so that obviously spread like wildfire, | :38:11. | :38:14. | |
but it took time to go, you know, within a community and then to another community. | :38:14. | :38:19. | |
With Facebook, it spreads instantaneously. | :38:19. | :38:22. | |
You don't have to be a multinational- to want to communicate to your customers on Facebook. | :38:22. | :38:29. | |
Representing small enterprises on Facebook has become a new cottage industry. | :38:29. | :38:33. | |
You do guitar lessons? We'll do repairs and obviously sell... | :38:33. | :38:37. | |
You do guitar lessons? We'll do repairs and obviously sell... | :38:37. | :38:37. | |
Beverley Ames-Rookes runsFacebook pages for small businesses. | :38:37. | :38:40. | |
What's really nice with Facebook is you can listen to what people say about your business | :38:40. | :38:44. | |
and then you can interact with them. | :38:44. | :38:47. | |
Today she's trying to sign upnew clients in her Surrey village. | :38:47. | :38:50. | |
I can do it all, your Facebook banner, | :38:50. | :38:53. | |
I create your albums, update your albums for you. | :38:53. | :38:57. | |
Beverley, hi, hello. Emily. How was it? How did it go in there? | :38:57. | :39:03. | |
'Beverley creates a page for each client and then posts news and comments as that business | :39:03. | :39:08. | |
'to Facebook users and on other social networks.' | :39:09. | :39:14. | |
She can find herself communicating as a shop, a pub, | :39:14. | :39:18. | |
or even an exotic holiday resort inAsia, which she has at least visited. | :39:18. | :39:23. | |
I felt the atmosphere, I know when the DJs are playing, I know when there's live music. | :39:23. | :39:27. | |
I know the local beers so I can talk easily on behalf of those venues. | :39:27. | :39:34. | |
In the last couple of days, take usthrough what you've actually said. | :39:34. | :39:37. | |
All right. "Banana Tempura Caramel Toffee Ice Cream! | :39:38. | :39:40. | |
"Who's feeling naughty?" As you can see, | :39:40. | :39:44. | |
it pushes for a response and what you're trying to do is to get people to interact with you. | :39:44. | :39:48. | |
OK, so Helga says, "Sounds yummy, hope I can try it in August." | :39:48. | :39:52. | |
Suzee Jones says, "September forme!!" And Kitty White, "Original!!!" | :39:52. | :39:56. | |
With lots of exclamation marks. I don't know what Kitty is making of that one. | :39:56. | :40:00. | |
'Each time someone comments, the resort's mentioned to that person's friends.' | :40:00. | :40:05. | |
That will show up that they've commented on a page | :40:05. | :40:08. | |
so all of a sudden we've got a bit of exposure on somebody's profile. | :40:08. | :40:13. | |
Facebook claims that when a business- is brought to someone's attention by a friend, | :40:13. | :40:18. | |
it's a much more powerful form of recommendation than an ordinary advert. But is it? | :40:18. | :40:22. | |
You're similar to your friends and the ads that your friends respond to, you respond to also, so yes, | :40:22. | :40:27. | |
people come in clusters, | :40:27. | :40:29. | |
yes, what your friends bought, you might buy, | :40:29. | :40:31. | |
but you might have bought it anyway. | :40:31. | :40:33. | |
To what extent can Facebook truly take credit for that? | :40:33. | :40:38. | |
After targeted advertising in Facebook pages, | :40:38. | :40:42. | |
the next part of Facebook's business- armoury is its amazing ability to keep users glued to the site. | :40:42. | :40:48. | |
Facebook sessionstypically last around half an hour and most users come back often. | :40:48. | :40:54. | |
I probably spend about half an hour- a day on Facebook. | :40:54. | :40:57. | |
Everyday, a few times a day. Not more than an hour total a day. | :40:57. | :41:02. | |
I spend two hours on Facebook a day. | :41:02. | :41:04. | |
Probably about three hours a day. About three-and-a-half hours a day. | :41:04. | :41:08. | |
Three, four hours during the day. | :41:08. | :41:10. | |
I don't think I have it that bad, I- know people who go on it every hour. | :41:10. | :41:16. | |
At Facebook, we're pushing to make the world a more open place. | :41:17. | :41:22. | |
Facebook users are kept hooked partlyas a result of a decision Zuckerberg- made four years ago | :41:22. | :41:27. | |
to open the site up to other software developers. | :41:27. | :41:32. | |
This year, there are more people than ever at Facebook's developer conference. | :41:32. | :41:40. | |
Facebook isn't just a website, it's also what's known in techy circles as 'a platform.' | :41:40. | :41:45. | |
This means that software developers from other companies | :41:45. | :41:48. | |
can write programmes which then run on Facebook. | :41:49. | :41:53. | |
Apps, in other words, and the reason- Facebook likes that is because it provides more to do, | :41:53. | :41:59. | |
but also because these apps create a kind of technology eco-system | :41:59. | :42:04. | |
with Facebook right at the core. | :42:04. | :42:07. | |
Now there are more than a million different developers who build things on top of Facebook | :42:07. | :42:12. | |
and are trying to bring these great experiences to people. | :42:12. | :42:16. | |
And, you know, we think to ourselves we're just a small company and we have, I'm sure, | :42:16. | :42:21. | |
all these people who are using our products but we have 500, 600 engineers building all this stuff. | :42:21. | :42:27. | |
Companies like Microsoft or Google have tens of thousands of engineers We're tiny compared to that. | :42:27. | :42:33. | |
So how can we ever possibly build all the stuff that we want to see get out there | :42:33. | :42:37. | |
and the answer is build an eco-system and make it so that | :42:37. | :42:41. | |
all these developers, whether it's a student in a dorm room who hasn't had a job yet | :42:41. | :42:46. | |
or a big company or a company that we've never heard of in some other country can build this stuff. | :42:46. | :42:51. | |
And that's the part that's so cool about it. | :42:51. | :42:53. | |
When Zuckerberg opened Facebook to developers, | :42:53. | :42:56. | |
nobody guessed that the runaway success would be Facebook based games. | :42:57. | :43:02. | |
London is home to the world'ssecond biggest social gaming company. | :43:02. | :43:07. | |
Kristian Sergestrale, the co-founder- of Playfish, employs 350 people | :43:08. | :43:13. | |
to make games for his 100 million regular players. | :43:13. | :43:17. | |
Facebook has created the level of infrastructure | :43:17. | :43:19. | |
which means you can visit your real friends' houses, | :43:19. | :43:22. | |
interact with your real friends' characters, | :43:22. | :43:24. | |
give them gifts and so on. | :43:24. | :43:25. | |
And you can work on things together | :43:25. | :43:27. | |
which simply brings an entirely new dimension to computer games. | :43:27. | :43:31. | |
And in some ways almost takes games back to where they came from. | :43:31. | :43:34. | |
So it's as much about interaction as it is about what's going on in the screen. | :43:34. | :43:38. | |
In the company's San Francisco office, two of its customers | :43:38. | :43:43. | |
have come in to show how they play a couple of the most popular games. | :43:43. | :43:46. | |
Michelle Maruyama is a violinistand has been playing Restaurant City- for two years. | :43:46. | :43:53. | |
I sometimes really enjoy playing right after I come home from work, | :43:53. | :43:56. | |
if there's a conductor I don't like or something. | :43:56. | :43:58. | |
But if I'm just home all day practising, | :43:58. | :44:01. | |
you can just stop once an hour and check on your restaurant. | :44:01. | :44:05. | |
The games are designed to keep you hooked with timed penalties if you don't keep checking in. | :44:06. | :44:13. | |
It's definitely a chore and it definitely cuts into your spare time. | :44:13. | :44:17. | |
I know that I used to read the New Yorker pretty much cover to cover every single week | :44:17. | :44:22. | |
and I know that I absolutely do not do that any more. | :44:22. | :44:25. | |
John House plays Pet Society, which has attracted up to 21 million users a month. | :44:25. | :44:30. | |
You have a virtual home | :44:30. | :44:33. | |
and you have your one virtual pet | :44:33. | :44:35. | |
and you have a bunch of friends that you can visit. | :44:35. | :44:44. | |
They poop, and they poop different types of poop so there is the carrot cake poo. | :44:44. | :44:51. | |
There's the creme egg poo. | :44:51. | :44:53. | |
There is the snake poo from the wizards' school. | :44:53. | :44:57. | |
These kinds of special items are the key to a new revenue stream for Facebook | :44:57. | :45:01. | |
because game players can pay real money for virtual goods. | :45:01. | :45:06. | |
They pay by sending money to Facebook to buy credits. | :45:06. | :45:10. | |
It's already a business worth hundreds of millions of dollars. | :45:10. | :45:17. | |
John was so pleased with his special duck poo | :45:17. | :45:19. | |
that he paid a poundfor a virtual case to display it in. | :45:19. | :45:22. | |
And Facebook takes a third of that, but John has no complaints. | :45:22. | :45:24. | |
You know what? For that giant duck poo, it's worth it. | :45:24. | :45:34. | |
Facebook's strategy, including games- and Facebook pages, has attracted ever-growing numbers to the site, | :45:34. | :45:41. | |
but the company has an even bigger ambition on the wider web. | :45:41. | :45:46. | |
Today, millions of websites have links to Facebook on them | :45:46. | :45:49. | |
and if you use these links with your Facebook identity, | :45:49. | :45:53. | |
you can communicate with yourfriends on Facebook even if you're on an entirely different site. | :45:53. | :45:59. | |
For Mark Zuckerberg, it's the fulfilment of a grand ambition | :45:59. | :46:03. | |
to provide the pipes through which the world's social connections can start to flow | :46:03. | :46:09. | |
and in the process, Facebook's beginning to colonise the whole of the web. | :46:09. | :46:14. | |
Zuckerberg's dorm project has come a long way in seven years, | :46:14. | :46:18. | |
not just as a piece of technology, but as a change to the way many people relate to each other. | :46:18. | :46:24. | |
It's easier to communicate with people, | :46:24. | :46:27. | |
but it also makes communicating less personal. | :46:27. | :46:30. | |
Let's say I was with my boyfriend, instead of paying attention to him,- I'm on my Facebook. | :46:30. | :46:40. | |
:46:40. | :46:42. | ||
It's an idyllic representation | :46:42. | :46:44. | |
of who you are which I think can get misinterpreted by yourself even. | :46:44. | :46:46. | |
Probably 80% is the real me on there, the rest of it's just what I want people to see. | :46:47. | :46:50. | |
My dad posts on my wall sometimes. I have to delete that. He will just post "I love you sweetie!" | :46:50. | :46:55. | |
I'm like "Dad!" But that's sweet. It's nice but it's a little too much. | :46:55. | :47:05. | |
:47:05. | :47:15. | ||
One | :47:15. | :47:16. | |
One thing | :47:16. | :47:16. | |
One thing that | :47:16. | :47:19. | |
One thing that there's never been is a map of everybody in the world | :47:19. | :47:23. | |
and their relationships with each other. By giving each person the | :47:23. | :47:28. | |
responsibility for their own story, the point in that graph, together | :47:28. | :47:34. | |
you have this amazing map of people. Is this a solid asset or could | :47:34. | :47:39. | |
Facebook fade away when the next online craze comes along? | :47:39. | :47:43. | |
Facebook's scale is unprecedented. It is bigger than anything we have | :47:43. | :47:47. | |
seen before. I think that there is something powerful about the | :47:47. | :47:51. | |
network effect that it then has, all my friends are on it, therefore | :47:51. | :47:57. | |
I must be on it. That makes it difficult for another competitor to | :47:57. | :48:01. | |
replace it. It is difficult to say that Facebook has a strangle hold | :48:01. | :48:06. | |
and that it cannot be replaced is not the case when Myspace had the | :48:06. | :48:10. | |
same early connection, but the people have disappeared overnight | :48:10. | :48:15. | |
it does not take Mitch once an exoddus starts. Facebook wants its | :48:15. | :48:25. | |
:48:25. | :48:27. | ||
Facebook says that just makes it commercial messages a part of life | :48:27. | :48:34. | |
is one where we're better if we My life is improved | :48:34. | :48:36. | |
if I care what you're doing and if I've chosen to connect to a Starbucks, | :48:36. | :48:39. | |
I want their announcements, just like I friend someone, I've chosen this. | :48:39. | :48:43. | |
We have social ads and we have non-social ads, right, | :48:43. | :48:48. | |
and so you can either for example see an ad from Coca-Cola | :48:48. | :48:51. | |
that is just Coca-Cola saying drink Coca-Cola. | :48:51. | :48:53. | |
Or you can see an ad where your friend who likes Coca-Cola, | :48:53. | :48:56. | |
the ad is just this person likes Coca-Cola | :48:56. | :48:59. | |
and which one do you think people who use Facebook prefer? | :48:59. | :49:03. | |
They want to see something about their friends, they want to learn about what their friends are doing. | :49:03. | :49:08. | |
But when Facebook has tried to mixsocial messages with advertising in the past, it's run into trouble. | :49:08. | :49:14. | |
We've built a little product called- 'Beacon' that's going to allow you to do this from your own website. | :49:14. | :49:18. | |
Beacon told people's friends what they were buying. | :49:18. | :49:22. | |
There were furious complaints and Zuckerberg withdrew it with apologies. | :49:22. | :49:26. | |
After a series of such controversies, a pattern has emerged. | :49:26. | :49:28. | |
Facebook tends to do a three steps forward, one step back launch approach. | :49:28. | :49:38. | |
It often launches products that really push us, tests the water, | :49:38. | :49:43. | |
so to speak, and then Facebook pulls back and begins to roll it out again more slowly. | :49:43. | :49:53. | |
:49:53. | :49:54. | ||
Now | :49:54. | :49:54. | |
Now there | :49:55. | :49:55. | |
Now there is | :49:55. | :49:59. | |
Now there is another idea that users may be uncomfortable with. If | :49:59. | :50:02. | |
you click a 'like' button on a business page, that business can | :50:02. | :50:07. | |
pay for a box on your friend's pages with your picture and logo | :50:07. | :50:12. | |
saying you liked it. Facebook call it is a sponsored story. You cannot | :50:12. | :50:17. | |
opt out. The only add that Facebook shows on mobile devices. If you | :50:17. | :50:21. | |
found your name and face in a sponsored story, would you say it | :50:21. | :50:27. | |
is harmless? Or would you feel you had been used in an add without | :50:27. | :50:37. | |
on a brand, that could pop up I certainly wouldn't necessarily | :50:37. | :50:40. | |
But when you press a like button on a brand or on an ad | :50:40. | :50:42. | |
or on a page, you're saying "I like this". | :50:42. | :50:44. | |
I'm not saying I advertise this. | :50:44. | :50:46. | |
Well, I suppose when you... So let's pause. | :50:46. | :50:49. | |
It's an interesting... | :50:49. | :50:59. | |
:50:59. | :51:01. | ||
I mean, you're asking a profound question - what's advertising? | :51:01. | :51:05. | |
When I press a like button on an ad, I'm trying, | :51:05. | :51:11. | |
on the Facebook system, I'm affirmatively communicating that I'm associating myself | :51:11. | :51:17. | |
with whatever I'm liking and what that does is it creates a story. | :51:17. | :51:22. | |
But you can call it a story, many people would call it an advertisement | :51:22. | :51:25. | |
and Facebook is getting paid for those by the companies. | :51:25. | :51:28. | |
I think... I...I...I... | :51:28. | :51:31. | |
It's a ranking mechanism, I don't know if I would call it an advertisement. | :51:31. | :51:37. | |
Sponsored stories highlight the critical dilemma for Facebook. | :51:37. | :51:42. | |
How far can it go in using personal information without its users feeling exploited? | :51:42. | :51:48. | |
It says it gives users full control over their privacy, | :51:48. | :51:58. | |
:51:58. | :52:00. | ||
Permission? Facebook | :52:00. | :52:00. | |
Permission? Facebook has | :52:01. | :52:01. | |
Permission? Facebook has to | :52:01. | :52:04. | |
Permission? Facebook has to be careful about the data is used. If | :52:04. | :52:07. | |
people are freaked out too much, they will leave the platform, but | :52:07. | :52:12. | |
we have seen a number of different privacy scares in the past, it has | :52:12. | :52:17. | |
not held it back so far. Do you believe that people will | :52:17. | :52:21. | |
gradually become more open, that they will regard privacy with less | :52:21. | :52:30. | |
that people won't care fundamental thing and I think | :52:30. | :52:33. | |
I think the big cultural change is that now more and more people are finding that | :52:34. | :52:36. | |
they can build a reputation, they can help discover stuff, get credit for that, | :52:36. | :52:39. | |
they can be part of discovering other people's stuff. | :52:39. | :52:42. | |
And I just think that people are seeing every day that that's awesome. | :52:42. | :52:45. | |
And that's why I think the world is moving in that direction. | :52:45. | :52:47. | |
But people every day also wake up and I think are like, | :52:47. | :52:49. | |
"What stuff do I want to have out there and what don't I?" I don't think that will change. | :52:49. | :52:53. | |
But how much do Facebook's business needs create a tension between privacy and sharing? | :52:53. | :52:58. | |
They've chosen terminology and at least as important, | :52:58. | :53:02. | |
they've chosen a user interface design that encourages sharing. | :53:02. | :53:05. | |
They've set their defaults in a way- that makes it seem like this is | :53:05. | :53:09. | |
the right and normal and natural thing to do. | :53:09. | :53:12. | |
I'm not so sure it really is, I'm not so sure that it's been | :53:12. | :53:15. | |
the way of things or needs to be the way of things | :53:15. | :53:17. | |
for every picture you take to be | :53:18. | :53:21. | |
distributed to hundreds or thousands or tens of thousands of people. | :53:21. | :53:23. | |
And yet they've tried to convince us that's the new normal and that's the way it should be. | :53:23. | :53:28. | |
They've always said, "Facebook's about helping you share, with the people around you". | :53:28. | :53:34. | |
Facebook insists its advertising model | :53:34. | :53:36. | |
does not depend on its users agreeing to be less private. | :53:36. | :53:38. | |
Our goal is to make it so that people share what they want to. | :53:38. | :53:42. | |
And we believe that over time, people are going to want to share more things. | :53:42. | :53:49. | |
That's a big trend that we see happening in the world, | :53:49. | :53:51. | |
but we don't benefit from being ahead of it. | :53:51. | :53:53. | |
If we have people share things that they don't want to, | :53:53. | :53:56. | |
they'll stop using our service and not like us. | :53:56. | :54:04. | |
This | :54:04. | :54:05. | |
This year | :54:05. | :54:05. | |
This year we | :54:05. | :54:09. | |
This year we are taking the next step. We are making it so you can | :54:09. | :54:13. | |
connect to anything you want in anywhere in the world. | :54:13. | :54:17. | |
Well, the $100 billion question for investors is how successfully | :54:17. | :54:21. | |
Facebook will be able to turn all of the activity and all of the | :54:21. | :54:24. | |
information it has, into a massive income. | :54:24. | :54:28. | |
This is a very young company. It's just starting to figure out | :54:29. | :54:32. | |
strategies for making money. I think advertising is one component | :54:32. | :54:37. | |
of that. So if this company were to truly want to start mon advertising, | :54:37. | :54:46. | |
I think that $100 billion may start may depend on | :54:46. | :54:53. | |
and whether they feel comfortable networks, networks that are more | :54:53. | :55:01. | |
that are more restricted And that's where Zuckerberg himself | :55:01. | :55:06. | |
but as long as most users believe in his sincerity, | :55:06. | :55:09. | |
they'll probably accept whatever changes Facebook throws at them | :55:09. | :55:13. | |
because by all accounts he hasn't changed much. | :55:13. | :55:16. | |
Mark drives the same four-year-old Acura | :55:16. | :55:18. | |
that I recommended that he get a few years ago. | :55:18. | :55:22. | |
Like, you know, and still lives, you know... | :55:22. | :55:25. | |
He's finally bought a house, but it's not like he bought some crazy mansion. | :55:25. | :55:28. | |
He bought a house in Palo Alto. | :55:28. | :55:30. | |
But, you know, really being, you know, one of Mark's stated interests on Facebook is minimalism. | :55:30. | :55:35. | |
He doesn't care for material possessions at all. | :55:35. | :55:38. | |
He actually wears the same jeans and the same t-shirt and jacket everyday. | :55:38. | :55:44. | |
In fact, one of the things I first did when I came to the company | :55:44. | :55:47. | |
is told a lot of people, "He has a lot of those jackets, don't worry, he's not wearing the same jacket | :55:47. | :55:53. | |
"every single day, it's just many versions of the same jacket. | :55:53. | :55:56. | |
Zuckerberg just wants to keep a low profile | :55:56. | :56:05. | |
In | :56:05. | :56:06. | |
In a | :56:06. | :56:06. | |
In a matter | :56:06. | :56:11. | |
In a matter of days, the world will be able to buy Facebook shares. If | :56:11. | :56:14. | |
they go up, Zuckerberg's student project will be worth the $100 | :56:14. | :56:20. | |
billion or so, that is bandied about. If they don't, there will be | :56:20. | :56:23. | |
talk of another tech market crash and the bubble that burst. | :56:23. | :56:28. | |
I don't think we are in the same position we were with the.com crash. | :56:28. | :56:34. | |
The web was in its early stages then. Businesss were capital | :56:34. | :56:37. | |
intensive to set up a business. We have had ten years to learn from | :56:37. | :56:42. | |
the mistakes that were made then. So yes, this is a huge valuation | :56:42. | :56:47. | |
for Facebook, but I'm not sure it means that we are in a general tech | :56:47. | :56:52. | |
bubble. I think that the prospects are good. The company has 900 | :56:52. | :56:58. | |
million subscribers, they have a trov of data, encompassing what | :56:58. | :57:03. | |
users do online, what they ignore. The limitations are that there is a | :57:03. | :57:08. | |
new generation of social media users to come online and skip | :57:08. | :57:13. | |
Facebook entirely. They will start with Twitter or Tumbler are or | :57:13. | :57:17. | |
something we cannot imagine yet. As for Zuckerberg, the company's | :57:17. | :57:23. | |
been structured to give him the power to outvote dis gruntled share | :57:23. | :57:29. | |
holders, but does it work in practise? Sooner or later the share | :57:29. | :57:34. | |
holders and the board can gang up. Especially if it is not performing. | :57:34. | :57:39. | |
As soon as you start to lose it does not take more than a couple of | :57:39. | :57:43. | |
games, or a couple of quarters of losses and people start to look | :57:43. | :57:48. | |
around for somebody to take over. That sounds unlikely, whether today, | :57:48. | :57:53. | |
Zuckerberg is such a superstar of business and technology, but, of | :57:53. | :57:58. | |
course, he's used to dramatic changes, in this, his first job. | :57:58. | :58:03. | |
There is a great line in the film The Social Network where | :58:03. | :58:10. | |
Zuckerberg's friend, encourages him to think big and says, "A million | :58:10. | :58:16. | |
dollars is not cool, you know what is? A billion dollars." So, Mark | :58:16. | :58:21. | |
Zuckerberg may say how cool is $100 billion? But that is the Hollywood | :58:21. | :58:24. | |
Zuckerberg, but even the real one admits it has been a ride. | :58:24. | :58:29. | |
We're on this journey, I just want to say it is really an honour to be | :58:29. | :58:34. | |
on it with all of you guys. Because, looking back seven years, who would | :58:34. | :58:38. |