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I'd like to ask for everybody's attention, please. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
Low budget airlines have revolutionised the way we fly. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
EasyJet now carries more passengers than British Airways. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
And the giant of the low cost carriers is Ryanair. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
HE SINGS: We're off to see the wizard, the wonderful wizard of Oz. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:32 | |
Michael O'Leary is its boss. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
This way, is it? | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
He may not look like a tycoon, but he's built a multi-billion pound business. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:41 | |
Just another dull day in Katowice. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
-That's our time in Amsterdam this morning. -No passport required. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:50 | |
We've been here... | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
ten minutes. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:54 | |
-Good afternoon. -Morning, sir. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
Budget airlines are thriving - | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
by making their planes and their staff work harder. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
And for passengers, too, air travel sometimes feels like hard work. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:09 | |
I think people don't like being treated like cattle. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:13 | |
Even the cattle in their lorries get free water. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:18 | |
And they don't have cope with these things. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
GRUNTING | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
CORK POPS Whoo! | 0:01:23 | 0:01:25 | |
Good evening, easyJet. This is Stelios speaking. How can I help you? | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
The battle of the low cost airlines has been a clash of big personalities. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:33 | |
This is the inside story of how a Greek and an Irishman | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
fought to turn the airline industry on its head. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
Millions now have a chance to experience more of the world than they used to. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:47 | |
But in the process, air travel has, well, lost a little of its glamour. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:55 | |
We do thank you very much indeed for your attention, ladies and gentlemen, | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
and we hope you have a pleasant flight this afternoon. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
EasyJet has 200 planes. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
Each makes up to four round trips every day. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
Their crews meet up around 6am. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
-Morning, how are we all? All right? -Good, thank you. -Super. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
-Fit to fly? -Yes. -Outstanding. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
Matt Illman, a cabin crew manager, meets his three colleagues | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
for the day, and puts them through their daily test of safety. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:38 | |
Kendel, you noticed a milky white build-up on the wing, | 0:02:38 | 0:02:43 | |
what might we think this build-up is? | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
-I would think that it was a rime ice. -Absolutely, spot on. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
At the table next to them, their pilot and co-pilot check their flight plans and the weather. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:54 | |
It's fine in Amsterdam, windy into Gatwick | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
and windy into Edinburgh. | 0:02:58 | 0:02:59 | |
Gatwick is just one of 22 airports where easyJet bases its planes. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:08 | |
Right, so have I got Gatwick online yet? | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
-'Yeah, I'm here, Will.' -Morning. -So the issues this morning... | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
While the first flights get underway, at company headquarters at Luton airport, | 0:03:14 | 0:03:19 | |
the senior management meet to review yesterday's operations. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:24 | |
OK, so we had a bit of a challenging weekend. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
So, on Saturday we had 1,120 sectors flown, | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
we also had some snow closures in the evening. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
So the daily ops meeting is the one place where the right people | 0:03:33 | 0:03:38 | |
get together who can take decisions | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
about the day-to-day operation of the airline. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
We've got about five or six engineering issues during the course of the day. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:47 | |
Everyone knows what they are doing, why they are doing it and how they're doing it. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
So it is an operation, I think, that is run in a militaristic fashion. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
CORK POPS | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
Stelios Haji-Ioannou started easyJet with £5 million from his dad, | 0:04:00 | 0:04:06 | |
a shipping tycoon. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:07 | |
Stelios no longer runs easyJet, but he's still its biggest shareholder. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
Now, all told, it's been a great investment for me. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
I've made about a billion pounds in the process. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
So it's a significant investment I keep an eye on. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
Today Stelios also keeps an eye on other businesses he owns, | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
and charities he funds. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:34 | |
One, two, three, testing. Can you hear me? Testing, testing. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:41 | |
Between them, Stelios, a Greek Cypriot, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
and Michael O'Leary, from rural Ireland, | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
have transformed the way the British fly. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:51 | |
It probably does take maybe a Greek mentality | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
and an Irish mentality to come at it from a slightly different angle. | 0:04:53 | 0:05:00 | |
I think it was logical that somebody growing a low-fare airline business | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
would emerge out of Ireland. To be fair to Stelios it is much more impressive that | 0:05:04 | 0:05:09 | |
the son of a Greek shipping billionaire - | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
who could, if he wanted to, be swanning around the world in executive jets - | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
has made another fortune by offering reasonably-priced air travel. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
It's just not as reasonably priced as Ryanair. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
The low cost rivals are fighting for traffic all over Europe. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
Katowice in Poland is getting a lightning visit from O'Leary. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
He's taking in three Polish airports today, | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
getting Ryanair's name in the media. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
What do you like most about Poland? | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
I think what I like most today about Poland | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
is your rubbish football team, that are even more rubbish than the Irish football team, | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
and that's setting the bar pretty low in terms of rubbish. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
O'Leary has business in his blood - he's the son of an Irish entrepreneur | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
who'd had both successes and failures. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
Thank you very much. Dziekuje. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
-Were you ambitious to make money? -Yes. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
I think one of the great things you learn | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
if your father has made money and lost money a couple of times, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
the great lesson you learn is the NOT having money. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
You don't remember the good times. You only remember the times when there wasn't money there. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:23 | |
And generally it breeds determination not to repeat that in your own life. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
O'Leary learnt business less from his father | 0:06:32 | 0:06:34 | |
than from a father-figure - a world-class Irish entrepreneur, | 0:06:34 | 0:06:39 | |
Tony Ryan, who hired O'Leary as his personal assistant. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
This was an opportunity for him to learn at the feet of the master, if you like. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:49 | |
Tony Ryan was a really tough task-master, | 0:06:49 | 0:06:53 | |
somebody who was very, very successful in business, | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
very driven and really drove people very hard himself. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
Ryan had established a huge and profitable aircraft-leasing business, GPA, | 0:06:59 | 0:07:05 | |
and, in 1985, a small, loss-making airline which he called Ryanair. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:11 | |
The problem was he had all of this income coming in from GPA | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
and going straight out the door into Ryanair, which was a bottomless pit. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
O'Leary had studied accountancy, so Ryan sent him | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
to his airline to see what could be done to stem its losses. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
I urged, repeatedly, shut this thing down, it can never make any money. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
It had lots of passengers but it could make no money, | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
because the costs were too high. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:40 | |
The early Ryanair had business class, | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
a smart ticket office in Dublin, | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
and a habit of dishing out free food and drink at every opportunity. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:55 | |
Charlie Clifton was among its first staff. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
It was good, old-fashioned customer service. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
If there were flight delays, we'd give them food and drink and all the rest of it. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:08 | |
And you would get passengers coming up to you who were not delayed, | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
had no delay at all, queuing up for their food | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
and everything like that, | 0:08:14 | 0:08:15 | |
thinking, "It's Ryanair, it's feeding time at the zoo". | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
O'Leary believed Ryanair would always lose money. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
31 through 60. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
But his boss, Tony Ryan, still had hope. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:34 | |
He knew how deregulation had been shaking up American aviation since the late 1970s. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:39 | |
We are looking at an evolution where an industry that was inefficient | 0:08:41 | 0:08:46 | |
is required to become efficient in the marketplace. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
And those airlines that don't get their costs in line | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
are not going to survive. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
Ryan had heard about an entrepreneur called Herb Kelleher. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
MUSIC: "Eye Of The Tiger" by Survivor | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
Kelleher ran an airline called SouthWest. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
He was the kind of guy who'd settle a legal dispute | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
with an arm-wrestling match. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
CHEERING | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
Ryan sent O'Leary to find out more. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
He said, we're going to have one last go, would I go to the States, meet SouthWest Airlines. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:33 | |
He arranged a meeting with Herb Kelleher | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
and it was the kind of road to Damascus moment. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
Remember who brought those low fares and how you keep them. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
Because they go away unless you fly SouthWest Airlines | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
again and again and again. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
SouthWest did everything airlines thought they shouldn't do | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
if they wanted to make money. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
It let its passengers take any seat on the plane, | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
just like on a bus or train. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
It didn't serve full meals, just drinks and snacks. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:14 | |
It made its planes and its crews work more flights per day. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
And it offered dramatically cheaper tickets. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
It just seemed to be blatantly obvious that this was the way forward. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:30 | |
That's what started the revolution in low fare air travel in Europe. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
ANNOUNCER: Could the last remaining passengers travelling to | 0:10:35 | 0:10:39 | |
Amsterdam with easyJet flight EZY8873 | 0:10:39 | 0:10:43 | |
please go immediately to gate 112. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
Gate 112. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:47 | |
Back at Gatwick, at 7am, easyJet's first wave of flights is boarding. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:57 | |
Morning, sir. | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
Once again ladies and gentlemen, a very good morning to you all | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
and a warm welcome on board this easyJet flight to Amsterdam. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:07 | |
Do you have a special voice? | 0:11:07 | 0:11:09 | |
-SHE LAUGHS -Yes. Yes I do! | 0:11:09 | 0:11:13 | |
My friends and family always ask me to do my work voice | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
and show them what I say on board, and they all find it highly amusing. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:22 | |
Are you ready for Freddie? | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
It was back in the '70s when Freddie Laker tried to undercut | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
the traditional airlines by offering cheap fares across the Atlantic. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:50 | |
Which seat do you want, darling? Which seat? | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
-Laker was knighted for his efforts... -Cheers! | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
..but four years later his business went bust. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:01 | |
National airlines were still owned by governments | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
and governments didn't want too much competition. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
Travellers between Scotland and London | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
will now be able to make the trip for as little as £29 | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
on a new airline called, appropriately enough, easyJet. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
More than 10 years later, deregulation finally came to Europe. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
Welcome on our first flight. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
For easyJet's young founder, business wasn't as much about | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
the need to make money as the desire | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
to escape from a privileged upbringing. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
I was suffering from the rich son syndrome, | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
so whatever I was doing, | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
people said, "It's really your father's doing." | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
I'm eternally grateful that at the age of 28, | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
he actually gave me the opportunity to do this amazing thing. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
"Here, son, go and prove yourself." And, of course, it wasn't a guaranteed success. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
Maybe it wouldn't have worked. It would have been very embarrassing to go back and say, | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
"Dad, I've lost it all." | 0:13:08 | 0:13:09 | |
Like O'Leary, Stelios made the pilgrimage to Texas to find out how to run a low cost airline. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:19 | |
I had a big advantage because I've never worked in an airline before, | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
so I literally travelled a bit on SouthWest, | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
read a couple of books and a Harvard Business School case study on it. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:34 | |
And then said, "OK, let's see how we're going to make this work." | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
Richard Gooding was the manager of a small, unprofitable airport north of London at Luton | 0:13:46 | 0:13:53 | |
when he got a visit from a keen young man who said he wanted to start an airline. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
We had seen many people who had wanted to start airlines. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
They had a common ingredient. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
They had been to the bank, who had laughed a lot, and had then | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
come to us to say, would we lend them the money to get started. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
Stelios was different. He already had money. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:15 | |
And he was less interested in planes than in selling tickets. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
He had a theory of something called the ignition price. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
His view of the ignition price was if you could | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
get your price down to what that is, the market will explode. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:31 | |
This was very interesting, innovative thinking for us in aviation. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
I know that it had happened in other retail industries, | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
but in aviation we hadn't thought like that. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
Stelios hired a couple of planes at Luton. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
What would make easyJet different was its branding. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:53 | |
Stelios felt that he wanted to own a colour, | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
he wanted a colour that nobody else was using, and orange was his idea. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
And we sat behind a computer screen | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
until we arrived at the most shocking, vivid shade of orange | 0:15:03 | 0:15:08 | |
we could find, which was pantone 021C, I think, | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
which is easyJet orange. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
EasyJet reservations, Vicky speaking. How may I help you? | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
If you want to speak to her first... | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
Even more original than the Pantone orange was Stelios's idea for selling tickets. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:29 | |
EasyJet's call centre would take bookings direct from its customers. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:33 | |
No longer would travel agents get a hefty slice of every air fare. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:39 | |
It was suddenly possible to cut out the commission of the travel agent, | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
cut out all the accounting of tickets, | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
and save the best part of 20%. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
I've got two flights available there as well. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
I didn't know what I was doing. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:52 | |
Remember, it could have been possible that | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
I could have opened the airline, say, "We only take bookings over the telephone," | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
and the planes could have been empty. But I was the right place at the right time. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
Good evening, easyJet, this is Stelios speaking, how can I help you? | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
The low fares revolution had begun. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
20 years ago, it would be unheard of for a group of lads to pop off to Eastern Europe for a stag party. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:21 | |
Today, it's nothing special. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
We're going to Riga in Latvia. It's a mate's stag do, | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
cheaper than Prague, etc, Amsterdam, | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
so, yeah, should be a good craic. Off we go. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
Lower fares have changed attitudes to travel. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
Passengers are in many cases indifferent to where they go. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
So long as it's a sunshine destination | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
or a historic destination, | 0:16:50 | 0:16:51 | |
depending on what their personal preference is. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
If it's Krakow or Prague, it really doesn't matter. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
Or if it's Alicante or Malaga, it doesn't matter. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
It's the price that determines that demand. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
When you can travel to somewhere like, you know, | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
a couple of hours away on a plane, different country, | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
different culture for the same price it would take you to get up to somewhere | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
like Manchester or Liverpool, then it's a bit of a no-brainer really. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
The arrival of low cost airlines has created work in Riga... | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
..not least for the local police. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
Soon as we had Ryanair, for example, | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
we had more and more Brits coming here. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
It's very easy to find here some cheap entertainment | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
that concerns girls, some striptease, | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
maybe even prostitution, and that it was easily available. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
That brought here a lot of youngsters. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
Riga responded to the influx by setting up a special | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
police department just to deal with the new tourists. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
They were all taught English, which they would need | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
on their nightly patrols. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
-Are you keeping us safe? -Is that a cameraman? Hello! | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
The tourist police have learnt how Brits like to enjoy themselves. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:08 | |
In the night there are many Brits having stag parties. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
There was one British guy dressed as Spider-Man, | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
he was, like, fat Spider-Man. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
That's how they enjoy their time here. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
Richard and his friends are already impressed with Riga's nightlife. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:26 | |
A lot going on. Lots of different places to go and see. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
It's what we expected when we came here, | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
so it's been really good so far. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
Many locals see the new tourists as a gift from low cost airlines. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:51 | |
Low cost airlines are doing a really good thing | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
because they are bringing money here. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
Tourists come just for the weekend here | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
and they are spending enormous money. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
Only when dawn breaks will the casualties be revealed. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
Yes, it usually happens. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
Some British guys wake up somewhere, | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
they don't remember where they have been, where are their friends, | 0:19:15 | 0:19:20 | |
where are they staying. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:21 | |
So it takes hours to find the place where he is staying. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
BELL CHIMES | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
Low cost airlines are certainly a boost to Riga's economy, | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
but perhaps not the kind that locals would have chosen. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
All these stag parties going to Eastern European cities - | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
do you feel you owe any apologies there? | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
I think you're... Look, we're a low fares airline. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:51 | |
We carry 80 million passengers a year. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:53 | |
The overwhelming majority of the passengers | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
we carry each year are families going on holidays, business people... | 0:19:56 | 0:20:00 | |
I think the apocryphal stag or hen party is a tiny proportion | 0:20:01 | 0:20:05 | |
of the business, and I think you'll find that in most Eastern European | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
cities or in Dublin or in the cities where we bring that stag party | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
or hen party business, they are very grateful for the business. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
The stag parties have to go somewhere. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
Back in the early '90s, when the young Michael O'Leary | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
returned from the States inspired by SouthWest, | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
he wasn't sure he'd be able to transform the ailing Ryanair. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
Perhaps he just didn't have the personality for it. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
All of our flights on time. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
Michael O'Leary was a sober-suited accountant | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
who really sat at the side of the room, was very quiet. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:48 | |
People really didn't know what to make of him. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
He turned up to work with blazers, he was very, very conservative. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
In 1994, the airline's founder, Tony Ryan, asked his protege | 0:20:55 | 0:21:00 | |
to step up to the top job, as Chief Executive of Ryanair. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
I really didn't want to do it. I didn't want the profile of it. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:12 | |
And eventually I was persuaded to do it. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
O'Leary threw out the smart suits, unbuttoned his collar | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
and got to work. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:24 | |
It was a very simple choice. Close the airline or cut the costs. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:31 | |
It was brutal in terms of changing the model, but it changed | 0:21:31 | 0:21:36 | |
dramatically and quickly, and Michael was the driver behind that. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
To be low cost, you really have to eat, sleep, drink and believe in low cost. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:47 | |
No more stuff for free. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
When you took away the free stuff, guess what? | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
Lots of people started buying a couple of litres and 200 fags. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:59 | |
Even better than cutting costs was to turn a cost into a profit. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
It worked beautifully with the orange juice. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
Finches Orange Juice were trying to break into the UK market. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
So it was very valuable for them, even as a marketing tool, | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
for people going from Ireland to the UK, to be drinking Finches Orange Juice. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:22 | |
So, at the start, we were buying that product from them | 0:22:22 | 0:22:26 | |
but we had to have a conversation with them then to say, "We can't afford to do this." | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
They said, "OK, well, we still want to be on board, | 0:22:29 | 0:22:33 | |
"so we'll give it to you for free." | 0:22:33 | 0:22:34 | |
And then we discovered that this probably was a marketing | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
opportunity for them, so they should pay for the privilege. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
And if they didn't want to do it, we'd get somebody else. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
So they said, "OK, we'll pay for it." | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
Then we said, "Why don't you give us the glasses as well?" | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
Ryanair was soon offering more flights | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
and lower prices from Ireland than Aer Lingus and British Airways. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
High prices had kept families apart, so now even God was backing Ryanair. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:05 | |
Ryanair was really surprised that they found a powerful marketing agent | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
in the Catholic Church because the priests started preaching | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
from the pulpits, reminding their congregations that now there were cheap flights to Ireland, | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
so if they did want to go home and visit their families, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
they could afford to do it, and that they should check out Ryanair. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
Today, easyJet and Ryanair still follow most of the original | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
SouthWest formula for how to run a low cost airline. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
Thanks very much, sir. Thank you, madam. Bye, now. Thank you. Goodbye. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
Thank you very much. You're very welcome. Thank you. Bye-bye. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:50 | |
They both rely on quick turnarounds. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
-Right, have we got any gloves? -Yes, plenty. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:57 | |
-Would you like one? -Yes, please, that'd be grand. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
In a 25-minute stop, there's no time for cleaning staff | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
to come on board, so that's up to the crew. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
It's amazing what gets left behind. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
Laptops, iPads, passports... You name it. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:14 | |
Even easyJet's co-pilot helps out. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
-Oh, thank you, darling. -That's all right. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:22 | |
As you can see, the rubbish is now out and we are ready to go. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
Morning, sir. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
This team has landed in Amsterdam, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
but it doesn't make much difference to them. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
That's our time in Amsterdam for this morning. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
That was our trip to Amsterdam. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
How long have we been here? | 0:24:38 | 0:24:39 | |
-No passport required. -We've been here... | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
ten minutes. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
And the passengers, if you turn around, are already boarding, | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
so it's my time to go, I'm afraid. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
Whatever passengers might assume, low cost airlines mostly fly | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
younger planes than the rest of the industry. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
Each airline flies only one kind - easyJet only flies Airbus planes. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:08 | |
And Ryanair only flies Boeings. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
It's another part of the original low cost model. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
All our pilots can fly all the planes. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
We only need one bank of spares for all those planes. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
The cabin crew, when they get on board, know all the galleys | 0:25:21 | 0:25:23 | |
and everything will be in exactly the same spot. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
So it's simply replicating a simple formula | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
and making it simpler and simpler. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 | |
The more simple we can make it, the more lower cost | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
and efficient it will be. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:33 | |
There's a final, key part of the SouthWest formula | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
that easyJet never adopted, but Ryanair has embraced. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
It's the use of smaller, out-of-the-way airports. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
If you are going to Frankfurt, they'll bring you to | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
Frankfurt-Hahn, which is about an hour and 20 minutes away. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:59 | |
You can go to Paris, but you go to Beauvais with Ryanair, | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
which is a good hour from Paris. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
So their model has been to develop secondary airports. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
They're mainly disused, old airbases that they have got | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
scattered around Europe. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
So this is what your cheap flight with Ryanair will get you. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
Conor McCarthy helped set up Ryanair's European network. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:30 | |
We just lined up these small airports, maybe ten at a time | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
and did a bake-off, tried to pick the top three and, basically, | 0:26:33 | 0:26:39 | |
competitive tension did the rest for us. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:41 | |
Most of those airports had never seen anything like it in the past, | 0:26:42 | 0:26:46 | |
but the prospects of them getting a daily flight to London | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
was just far too mouth-watering for them to ignore it. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
Next, Ryanair developed a cunning scheme to make its network | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
of obscure airports sound more important - by renaming them. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:07 | |
If you wanted | 0:27:07 | 0:27:09 | |
Beauvais, for example, which is outside Paris, | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
to be designated as a Paris airport, | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
then the airlines that flew there had to vote for it to be such. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:20 | |
Since Ryanair was often the only airline at many of these airports, | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
the votes went Ryanair's way. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
Small airports suddenly got grander. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
And so Beauvais became Paris, Charleroi became Brussels, | 0:27:34 | 0:27:39 | |
Prestwick became Glasgow and we developed | 0:27:39 | 0:27:43 | |
a pretty unique way of, again, circumventing the status quo | 0:27:43 | 0:27:47 | |
while the other airlines were fast asleep. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
So, how do airlines make money from low fares? | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
At Ryanair, it's a strategy of pile it high and sell it cheap. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:04 | |
Howard Millar is one of the company's | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
deputy chief executives, and its chief accountant. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:11 | |
-How are you? Good to see you. -Good to see you as well. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:15 | |
Our objective is to keep our planes full as much of the time as we possibly can. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:20 | |
So to that end we are always aggressively targeting | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
the maximum number of bums on seats on every flight. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:27 | |
We're less worried about what the average passenger pays | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
on the basis that we've a very low break-even load factor. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
And the fact that every passenger spends about 13 euros on | 0:28:33 | 0:28:38 | |
other things such as hotels, car hires, etc. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
Ryanair's average fare is £40, but that additional revenue, | 0:28:42 | 0:28:47 | |
including in-flight sales, brings the total per passenger up to £52, | 0:28:47 | 0:28:53 | |
excluding air passenger taxes. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:55 | |
On the cost side, fuel comes to £20. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
And, here's where being a low cost airline really counts. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
Everything else, including the staff, the planes, | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
airport charges and financing, | 0:29:05 | 0:29:07 | |
comes to £26. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:09 | |
Which means there's a profit per passenger of £6. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
Keeping costs low enough to make a profit on low fares is hard work. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:27 | |
For staff in Ryanair's old, cramped offices, | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
it means a battle for everything that costs money. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:36 | |
There is a head of stationery, and you go upstairs | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
and you request whatever item you want | 0:29:40 | 0:29:42 | |
and you are usually cross-examined as to whether you actually need them | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
and if it's a pen, you're encouraged to go to the local hotel and get them. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:51 | |
And if it's staples, they are given out by line rather than box. So... | 0:29:51 | 0:29:56 | |
I do ban us buying biros for the staff in Ryanair, | 0:29:56 | 0:30:00 | |
and I'm happy to supply hotel pens whenever I can. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:04 | |
I can give you the pen from the DeSilva hotel in Katowice. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:08 | |
O'Leary keeps tabs on the bigger items from his desk | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
at the end of the office. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:17 | |
Every Monday at 8.30, senior management is summoned. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:23 | |
You had a list of items to complete. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:29 | |
You had a date beside them when the items were given to you. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
If you haven't achieved what's on the list, | 0:30:32 | 0:30:34 | |
then you're in big trouble. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
And people had their shit together on Monday morning, that's for sure. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:41 | |
O'Leary adopted the practice from his mentor, Tony Ryan, | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
along with some of Ryan's personal style. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
Razor-sharp mind, he's a razor-sharp mouth | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
and he had the ability to decimate somebody fairly quickly | 0:30:53 | 0:30:58 | |
if they weren't thinking in the right direction. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:02 | |
It was always going to be somebody's turn, | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
and if the hate beam came in your direction, | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
it wasn't a very pleasant experience. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:10 | |
The word is that you're pretty aggressive at those meetings. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
I think, you know, some of that is sort of, | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
what do you call it? Water-font talk. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:21 | |
I think we try to have a very open culture in Ryanair. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:25 | |
I will be critical of people who don't accomplish what they are supposed to accomplish. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
But people are equally critical of me. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
And we, I think, try to foster a culture in Ryanair where I think | 0:31:31 | 0:31:34 | |
the person that gets criticised most at the Monday morning meetings is me. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:31:37 | 0:31:40 | |
I don't think so. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:45 | |
Maybe he saw it that way, but no, I think it was pretty one-way traffic. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:50 | |
Is it true that you have been reduced to tears in that meeting? | 0:31:50 | 0:31:53 | |
Yeah, initially. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:55 | |
I suppose I've been in that meeting for ten years now, so I didn't like | 0:31:55 | 0:31:59 | |
the kind of loudness of some elements of the meeting. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
But yes, I've... I can't remember the last time I cried in a meeting. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:07 | |
We've had a few shouts and storming out, but they are very interesting. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:12 | |
I don't think she's unique. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:14 | |
I think there'd be quite a few people, grown men included. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
I mean... Nobody, to my knowledge, has ever cried | 0:32:18 | 0:32:22 | |
at a Monday morning management meeting, including myself. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
But, you know, we don't hang around, we don't have this... | 0:32:25 | 0:32:29 | |
We don't hold hands and sing the company song. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:33 | |
Despite being on the receiving end of O'Leary's anger, | 0:32:34 | 0:32:38 | |
many of his managers have continued working with him for years. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:42 | |
You could have had the worst gouging of your life | 0:32:42 | 0:32:46 | |
at 9.30 in the morning, and by 11.30 he'd be | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
sitting in your office having a cup of coffee. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
He's not out there to upset people, | 0:32:53 | 0:32:55 | |
but it's certainly a life experience, | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
and I've developed hugely as a manager because of Michael. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
By 1998, four years after O'Leary took over, | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
Ryanair was making solid profits. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
Just wait for the rest. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:15 | |
O'Leary had done well personally, too, after negotiating with | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
Tony Ryan for almost a quarter of the company's shares. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:22 | |
Today he's thought to be worth more than £350 million. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:29 | |
Do you feel like you've made enough money now? | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
I made enough money a long time ago. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:36 | |
-Have you made enough money? -I don't know. What is enough? | 0:33:36 | 0:33:42 | |
Which credit card are you using to pay with? | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
And the expiry date is? | 0:33:45 | 0:33:46 | |
After the elation of easyJet's inaugural flight, there was | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
a drastic fall in ticket sales. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:53 | |
Stelios started getting worried. | 0:33:57 | 0:33:59 | |
We were two months in, it wasn't looking good, and at that point | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
Stelios pulled out his chequebook and said, "Spend, spend, spend." | 0:34:02 | 0:34:06 | |
In fact, I think he said, | 0:34:06 | 0:34:07 | |
"Spend a million pounds this week or you're fired." | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
In one moment I'll give you a confirmation reference for this flight, OK? | 0:34:10 | 0:34:14 | |
Anderson splurged a couple of million in six weeks, producing | 0:34:14 | 0:34:18 | |
a blitz of orange advertising in the press and on television. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:23 | |
Well, I mean, is two million quid a lot of money or not? I don't know. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:27 | |
I'm afraid they have all been booked up on that date. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
It was part of launching a company, you know, you had to do it. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
Do you have another date in mind? | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
When you spend those sorts of sums of money, | 0:34:35 | 0:34:37 | |
you expect an effect and we got an effect. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:39 | |
The public responded, the public got the message, | 0:34:39 | 0:34:41 | |
people could see that we had substance. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
With easyJet making a splash and Ryanair already established, | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
the big airlines started getting interested in these new rivals. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:58 | |
It was the first time | 0:34:59 | 0:35:01 | |
we got some acknowledgement of the business model. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:05 | |
Until that moment the discussion was, | 0:35:05 | 0:35:08 | |
"Well, these things don't really work, they're not really safe, | 0:35:08 | 0:35:12 | |
"how can they do it for such a low price? Are they maintaining the aircraft?" | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
So we went from rubbishing the concept basically, | 0:35:16 | 0:35:20 | |
to saying, "It is a valid business model, and we're going to copy it." | 0:35:20 | 0:35:24 | |
British Airways appointed one of its star executives, | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
Barbara Cassani, to create BA's own budget airline. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:31 | |
She began by studying the competition. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:34 | |
We felt that Ryanair was... I mean, I call it a flying pub. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:41 | |
It was just all, kind of, | 0:35:42 | 0:35:44 | |
chaotic and a little bit dehumanising to customers. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:48 | |
And easyJet was too orange to my taste. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:50 | |
I thought, "How much orange can one person take?" | 0:35:50 | 0:35:54 | |
British Airways' own budget airline, Go, was born. | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
Stelios took British Airways to court, claiming Go had copied easyJet, | 0:36:02 | 0:36:06 | |
and was trying to put his airline out of business. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
Take nothing away from easyJet, but I didn't copy them. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
And in fact, what we did was we looked at all of the low-cost airlines, | 0:36:16 | 0:36:21 | |
Southwest in the US, as well as Ryanair and easyJet, etc, and we created our own. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:26 | |
Gate number is number 14, boarding time for the flight is 8.30. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:30 | |
On Go's inaugural flight, it was Stelios who had the last laugh. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:39 | |
I was wandering around the call centre, | 0:36:39 | 0:36:40 | |
as the folks were taking bookings, and one of them came over to me | 0:36:40 | 0:36:44 | |
and said, "You won't believe who I've just taken a booking for." | 0:36:44 | 0:36:47 | |
Stelios had booked ten seats for himself and other easyJet staff. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:57 | |
Somebody called the police and the police just laughed. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
We got on the flight and Stelios walked up and down the aisle | 0:37:05 | 0:37:09 | |
talking to the passengers. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:11 | |
We decided to give away free easyJet flights to the passengers of Go. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:15 | |
And I think that took the edge out of it | 0:37:15 | 0:37:17 | |
because you're giving people something for free, they take it. They enjoy it. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:21 | |
After a couple of years, Cassani's Go started making money, | 0:37:27 | 0:37:31 | |
but it never got a chance to prove itself. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
BA sold it to venture capitalists, who, in turn, | 0:37:34 | 0:37:38 | |
couldn't resist the offer made to them by... | 0:37:38 | 0:37:42 | |
none other than Stelios. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
All the stars aligned for easyJet | 0:37:45 | 0:37:47 | |
and they very shrewdly took out their most effective competitor. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:52 | |
By allowing Go and easyJet to be merged, | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
BA really created a huge competitor for itself, | 0:37:55 | 0:37:59 | |
which was most unfortunate, | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
and I think the British flying public lost a great product. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:06 | |
To Ryanair, with its separate network of smaller airports, | 0:38:08 | 0:38:12 | |
Go was less of a threat than an entertaining sideshow. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
I never cease to be amazed at the spectacular capacity of, you know, | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
legacy flag carrier airlines to screw it up. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:24 | |
-You have no bags you are checking in, no? -No. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:28 | |
That's fine, you can go directly to security. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:30 | |
Low cost airlines have reversed the traditional pricing of air tickets. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:36 | |
In the past, if you waited till the last minute you might get | 0:38:37 | 0:38:41 | |
a standby ticket at a bargain price. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
Boarding will be at 1 o'clock | 0:38:45 | 0:38:47 | |
and security straight down the end of the hall. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:49 | |
Today, the longer you leave it, the higher the price. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
Ryanair aims to sell at least 80% of its seats. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:58 | |
Say we launch a route in January and the first flights were in June, | 0:39:00 | 0:39:04 | |
we will monitor the bookings each month as we go along | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
and in order to have 80% of the seats sold | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
by the time the first flight is flown, | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
we will know four to five months out from the experience | 0:39:12 | 0:39:16 | |
of similar routes that we've had over a number of years | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
that we need to have 5% sold by the end of January, | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
15% by the end of February and so on. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:23 | |
We will know whether we are over or below that target, | 0:39:26 | 0:39:30 | |
and if we are above it, we can increase the fares, | 0:39:30 | 0:39:33 | |
because we need to slow down the rate of booking, | 0:39:33 | 0:39:35 | |
or if we are below it, we need to reduce the fares. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
We tracked the prices of | 0:39:43 | 0:39:44 | |
three flights from London to Berlin. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
As the flight date approaches, | 0:39:47 | 0:39:48 | |
fares rise. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:50 | |
But when a flight isn't | 0:39:50 | 0:39:51 | |
selling well enough, | 0:39:51 | 0:39:53 | |
prices are cut to increase sales. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:55 | |
In the last few days before the flights, | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
the British Airways fare rose dramatically, | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
leaving Ryanair the cheapest, with easyJet in the middle. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
BELL CHIMES | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
C'est tous les bijoux que je fabrique moi-meme. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
Brenda Henderson is from Surrey, but she's moved to Excideuil, | 0:40:17 | 0:40:22 | |
a small town in south-west France. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
Lovely countryside, lovely people, lovely food. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
Brenda is one of many British expats in the region. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
There's areas that are almost like a little England, | 0:40:35 | 0:40:38 | |
with lots of activities, lots of enjoyable things, | 0:40:38 | 0:40:41 | |
and I'm sure that community wouldn't have been as large | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
if we weren't near an airport | 0:40:44 | 0:40:46 | |
and the low-cost airlines weren't available. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
At nearby Limoges airport, 80% of the traffic is to and from the UK. | 0:40:55 | 0:41:00 | |
Passenger numbers have trebled in the past ten years, | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
and the French talk about a revitalisation of the area | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
thanks to the British. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
Excideuil even boasts its own English cafe. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:15 | |
If the low-cost airlines weren't around, | 0:41:15 | 0:41:17 | |
my business would definitely suffer. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:19 | |
For example, there are lots of Brits who have second homes here, | 0:41:19 | 0:41:22 | |
so they will often pop out for the weekend. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:24 | |
We wouldn't see them, I don't think, if they had to drive each time just for a few days. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:28 | |
Sheila Pickering moved to France more than 20 years ago, | 0:41:30 | 0:41:34 | |
before you could fly cheaply between England and Limoges. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:38 | |
It's really changed family life because they can just pop over. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:42 | |
The family can pop over if we're having an anniversary. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:46 | |
They can pop over for the weekend. This would never have happened before. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:50 | |
Gone are the days when it cost you, | 0:41:50 | 0:41:52 | |
to go to the South of France, £500. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:55 | |
Those times have gone. We're moving on, | 0:41:55 | 0:41:59 | |
and we're moving on very, very fast. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
I think the greatest contribution of the concept of the low-cost airline in Europe, | 0:42:03 | 0:42:07 | |
at its most idealistic, if you like, is that it creates | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
an environment where people can cross borders easily and frequently. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:14 | |
Tous les jeunes comme moi alors... | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
However bold it may sound, it promotes peace. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
BELL CHIMES | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
If the low cost revolution has led to peace, | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
it's only been achieved through conflict. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
-O'LEARY: -I've been told and it's no lie. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
ALL: I've been told and it's no lie. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:32 | |
-O'LEARY: -EasyJet's fares are far too high. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
ALL: EasyJet's fares are far too high. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:37 | |
Ryanair and easyJet have argued over which is the cheapest. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
Ryanair has always admitted it chases controversy | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
as an alternative to paid publicity. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
The core of our marketing strategy is always to spend | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
as little money as possible advertising. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:03 | |
We don't have an advertising agency, | 0:43:03 | 0:43:05 | |
we don't use any advertising agencies. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:06 | |
We design them all ourselves. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:08 | |
We have a group of young kids who get together once or twice a week | 0:43:08 | 0:43:10 | |
and come up with ideas for new ads. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:12 | |
And the more controversial, the funnier, the more humorous they are, the better. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:17 | |
A classic Ryanair ad featured the Pope whispering to a nun | 0:43:20 | 0:43:24 | |
the fourth secret of Fatima. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:26 | |
Ryanair paid for it to appear in just one newspaper. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:30 | |
That ad went all over the world, kind of annoyed a lot of people, | 0:43:32 | 0:43:35 | |
offended some Catholics, and it was seen as, you know, | 0:43:35 | 0:43:38 | |
a really cheeky, and pushing the boat out, | 0:43:38 | 0:43:42 | |
but for the publicity it garnered | 0:43:42 | 0:43:44 | |
it was probably the best ad Ryanair has ever placed in its history. | 0:43:44 | 0:43:49 | |
The idea that all publicity is good publicity was tested | 0:43:51 | 0:43:55 | |
to destruction by Ryanair in a story that began happily enough. | 0:43:55 | 0:43:59 | |
The winner is Miss J O'Keeffe. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:03 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:44:03 | 0:44:07 | |
In 1988, Ryanair gave a prize to its one millionth passenger. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:14 | |
Jane O'Keeffe was a secretary from Dublin. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:17 | |
I was sitting up in the bar with my sister and I said, "No way will I win this. | 0:44:17 | 0:44:20 | |
"I've never won a thing in my life, and I won't win this time." | 0:44:20 | 0:44:23 | |
-You're trembling. Is it the drink or the excitement? -I think it's a bit of both. | 0:44:23 | 0:44:27 | |
The generous prize was free flights for life on Ryanair. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:34 | |
For almost ten years, O'Keeffe made modest use of her free flights. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:40 | |
Then one day, she found Ryanair wouldn't book another flight for her. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:46 | |
O'Leary was now in charge. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:48 | |
Michael said, "I'm not having any more of this. | 0:44:50 | 0:44:53 | |
"You're to stop her free flights." | 0:44:55 | 0:44:57 | |
So yours truly was dispatched to take the free flights for life | 0:44:57 | 0:45:00 | |
off the person who had won free flights for life. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:03 | |
You can imagine what a thankless task that was. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:06 | |
O'Leary's objection was that there was no formal agreement between | 0:45:10 | 0:45:13 | |
Ryanair and O'Keeffe to support her claim to free flights for life. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:17 | |
Here's the free flights for life. Well, what does that actually mean? | 0:45:20 | 0:45:24 | |
Is it documented? No. | 0:45:24 | 0:45:25 | |
She had nothing in writing to evidence the prize | 0:45:25 | 0:45:29 | |
other than some interview on an Irish TV station. | 0:45:29 | 0:45:32 | |
O'Keeffe sued Ryanair. | 0:45:33 | 0:45:35 | |
And in Dublin's High Court, | 0:45:35 | 0:45:37 | |
she claimed O'Leary had shouted at her on the phone. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:40 | |
Mr Justice Peter Kelly found Ryanair had | 0:45:41 | 0:45:44 | |
breached its contract with her. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:46 | |
Jane O'Keeffe, he said, was clear in her recollection | 0:45:46 | 0:45:49 | |
and was a more persuasive witness | 0:45:49 | 0:45:50 | |
than the airline chief executive Michael O'Leary. | 0:45:50 | 0:45:53 | |
I can only reiterate what I said in court - | 0:45:53 | 0:45:55 | |
I was shabbily treated by them, and the judgement has vindicated me. | 0:45:55 | 0:45:58 | |
O'Keeffe won £43,000 in compensation. | 0:46:00 | 0:46:03 | |
The High Court row with the one millionth passenger was | 0:46:05 | 0:46:08 | |
a disaster for Ryanair, and it kind of exposed for the first time, I suppose, | 0:46:08 | 0:46:12 | |
how rotten they could be to customers and how ruthless they were. | 0:46:12 | 0:46:16 | |
We looked bad, we were bad, we looked in the wrong, we were in the wrong, | 0:46:16 | 0:46:20 | |
but there were whole pages of publicity about Ryanair | 0:46:20 | 0:46:24 | |
and so as far as we were concerned, it was another case of, | 0:46:24 | 0:46:27 | |
win, lose or draw, a court case is good news. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:30 | |
-Where are you going today? -Oklahoma City. | 0:46:30 | 0:46:33 | |
The next one is at 3.10. We can put you on that one. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:36 | |
Ryanair was inspired by SouthWest airlines... | 0:46:36 | 0:46:39 | |
Check in at gate number four, to get your boarding card. | 0:46:39 | 0:46:43 | |
..after the visit to the States that had so influenced the young O'Leary. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:46 | |
But there's one part of the SouthWest formula he didn't pick up on. | 0:46:48 | 0:46:52 | |
I love customers. | 0:46:52 | 0:46:54 | |
We just enjoy each other. We really do, and love each other. | 0:46:56 | 0:47:00 | |
We'd much rather have a company that was bound by love rather than | 0:47:00 | 0:47:03 | |
one that was bound by hate. | 0:47:03 | 0:47:04 | |
I think one of the greatest slogans we ever had was, | 0:47:06 | 0:47:09 | |
"We smile because we want to, not because we have to." | 0:47:09 | 0:47:12 | |
-HE LAUGHS -Wham! | 0:47:12 | 0:47:15 | |
O'Leary believed he didn't need that kind of thing at Ryanair. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:22 | |
I think that a lot of the peace and love at SouthWest | 0:47:24 | 0:47:27 | |
is very much a cultural phenomenon, particularly in the Southern states, | 0:47:27 | 0:47:31 | |
in the US, where you go to MacDonald's and you go to restaurants and it's, | 0:47:31 | 0:47:35 | |
"Have a nice day, y'all, missin' you, come back and see us again sometime." | 0:47:35 | 0:47:38 | |
That kind of schlock doesn't work here in Europe. | 0:47:38 | 0:47:42 | |
Tonight on Watchdog, the boss of Ryanair who says he wishes | 0:47:42 | 0:47:45 | |
he could charge extra for fat people and to use the loo. | 0:47:45 | 0:47:48 | |
Budget airlines, like the schlock-free Ryanair, | 0:47:51 | 0:47:54 | |
are a gift to consumer journalism. | 0:47:54 | 0:47:56 | |
The BBC's Watchdog gets more than one complaint a day about easyJet | 0:47:57 | 0:48:01 | |
and the same for Ryanair... | 0:48:01 | 0:48:04 | |
..usually about unexpected charges. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:07 | |
Hello and good evening and welcome to Watchdog... | 0:48:09 | 0:48:12 | |
So many people get caught out and it's very common | 0:48:12 | 0:48:14 | |
for the complaints to end with "I will never fly with them again | 0:48:14 | 0:48:19 | |
"and I want to warn anybody else not to make the same mistake we did." | 0:48:19 | 0:48:23 | |
Michael O'Leary, the Ryanair boss, has been listening to all that. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:26 | |
As long as you're talking about us, Anne, I know we're doing a good job. | 0:48:26 | 0:48:31 | |
OK, you've done away with check-in desks, what's next? | 0:48:31 | 0:48:34 | |
In many ways, Michael O'Leary is a journalist's and a broadcaster's dream | 0:48:34 | 0:48:38 | |
because he just comes out with fantastic quotes. | 0:48:38 | 0:48:40 | |
But I think all of us have to be aware that he's very media savvy | 0:48:40 | 0:48:43 | |
and he will use us for his own ends. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:45 | |
If you like high fares, don't book Ryanair. | 0:48:45 | 0:48:48 | |
If you want the guaranteed lowest fares in Europe, fly Ryanair. | 0:48:48 | 0:48:52 | |
It's a very good commercial. | 0:48:52 | 0:48:54 | |
Now, welcome to our very special Ryanair flight. | 0:48:54 | 0:48:57 | |
I'm sorry it's a bit cramped. | 0:48:57 | 0:48:58 | |
O'Leary makes journalists' jobs easy by coming up with stories | 0:48:58 | 0:49:02 | |
that write themselves, whether or not they're true. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:06 | |
We are, as you know, working hard on a plan to charge for the toilets. | 0:49:06 | 0:49:10 | |
Myself and Mike were in London and we arrived into Gatwick | 0:49:10 | 0:49:13 | |
and Michael needed to use the bathroom. | 0:49:13 | 0:49:16 | |
Of course we had no money, no change so we had to go | 0:49:16 | 0:49:18 | |
and buy a can of Coke in order to get the money | 0:49:18 | 0:49:21 | |
and of course somebody asked him about hidden charges. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:24 | |
And he said, "Well, actually, I'll tell you about hidden charges, | 0:49:24 | 0:49:27 | |
"I'm going to charge to go to the bathroom." | 0:49:27 | 0:49:29 | |
And of course, if Michael says something like that, the media coverage is absolutely enormous. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:34 | |
So it's not what actually the message is, it's the fact that | 0:49:34 | 0:49:37 | |
you are in the media generating lots of free publicity | 0:49:37 | 0:49:40 | |
that we're using ultimately to convert into substantial profits. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:44 | |
Caroline Green has to deal with the fallout from O'Leary's remarks. | 0:49:46 | 0:49:50 | |
He might make a comment in the press, | 0:49:50 | 0:49:52 | |
whether it's putting porn on the aircraft | 0:49:52 | 0:49:55 | |
or paying for the toilets, or some other... Standing up on aircraft. | 0:49:55 | 0:50:00 | |
People think they're ridiculous, but they do believe it, to a certain extent. | 0:50:00 | 0:50:03 | |
But we all know that's what Michael is, and, you know, I would | 0:50:03 | 0:50:06 | |
prefer if some of the comments weren't made, but that's publicity. | 0:50:06 | 0:50:11 | |
We asked O'Leary to clear up, once and for all, some of the myths. | 0:50:14 | 0:50:18 | |
-You want to charge people to use the toilet? -False. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:22 | |
You want to have people standing up at the back of the plane? | 0:50:22 | 0:50:25 | |
No, it's never been a plan. | 0:50:25 | 0:50:26 | |
-Would you like to charge fat people more? -No. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:29 | |
Is there a rule against Ryanair staff charging their personal mobiles in the office? | 0:50:29 | 0:50:34 | |
Yes, it's one of the great PR initiatives. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:36 | |
Does anybody obey the ban? | 0:50:36 | 0:50:38 | |
No, they all charge up their mobile phones. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:40 | |
But it makes for great PR - we're so focussed on not wasting money | 0:50:40 | 0:50:43 | |
that we don't even allow people to charge up their mobile phones. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:46 | |
Today, easyJet is launching a new route to Moscow. | 0:50:59 | 0:51:02 | |
While they've always been seen as rivals, | 0:51:03 | 0:51:06 | |
easyJet and Ryanair mostly fly to different airports | 0:51:06 | 0:51:09 | |
and only compete directly on a small proportion of routes. | 0:51:09 | 0:51:13 | |
Now they're diverging even more. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:17 | |
EasyJet wants to appeal to business travellers. | 0:51:17 | 0:51:20 | |
Russia's outside the deregulated EU, | 0:51:22 | 0:51:25 | |
so this route needed government approval. | 0:51:25 | 0:51:27 | |
What was really good was that we were awarded this | 0:51:31 | 0:51:34 | |
and I think it showed that we have the credibility to fly the route | 0:51:34 | 0:51:38 | |
and it is predominantly a business route. | 0:51:38 | 0:51:41 | |
So I thought it said quite a lot about easyJet today. | 0:51:41 | 0:51:44 | |
Carolyn MacCall is making the most of it with a press trip on the inaugural flight. | 0:51:46 | 0:51:50 | |
Last year, easyJet started offering assigned seats instead of | 0:51:53 | 0:51:57 | |
the usual low cost practice of finding a seat when you board. | 0:51:57 | 0:52:01 | |
MacCall denies she's making easyJet more like a traditional airline, | 0:52:01 | 0:52:05 | |
and moving away from the low cost model. | 0:52:05 | 0:52:08 | |
We are completely a low-cost airline in our operating model. | 0:52:12 | 0:52:17 | |
Completely. We are also a low fares airline to the passenger. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:21 | |
So, what I think a passenger doesn't say is | 0:52:21 | 0:52:24 | |
"I'm going to fly a low-cost airline today." | 0:52:24 | 0:52:27 | |
They just don't use that terminology. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:29 | |
They think, "Yeah, low fares, good value, great service. I'm off. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:33 | |
"I'll try easyJet." | 0:52:33 | 0:52:34 | |
Back in Moscow, easyJet's party of journalists | 0:52:37 | 0:52:39 | |
and businesspeople are entertained at a local restaurant. | 0:52:39 | 0:52:43 | |
The highlight is a performance by a couple of easyJet cabin crew. | 0:52:44 | 0:52:48 | |
# We flew here to Moscow Flight 8401 | 0:52:49 | 0:52:53 | |
# We're known as Pearl and Dean | 0:52:53 | 0:52:57 | |
# Que sera, sera | 0:52:57 | 0:53:00 | |
# Whatever will be, will be | 0:53:00 | 0:53:05 | |
# The future's not ours to see | 0:53:05 | 0:53:09 | |
# Que sera, sera. # | 0:53:09 | 0:53:14 | |
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING | 0:53:14 | 0:53:18 | |
If things appear to be going well for easyJet, | 0:53:18 | 0:53:21 | |
it's despite a long-running battle over different visions of its future. | 0:53:21 | 0:53:25 | |
Surprisingly, it's easyJet's founder who's sceptical about how much more can be achieved. | 0:53:27 | 0:53:32 | |
He's worried that rising fares caused by rising fuel prices | 0:53:34 | 0:53:39 | |
and higher charges by airports are eroding the company's profitability. | 0:53:39 | 0:53:43 | |
The available opportunity to grow this business must have | 0:53:44 | 0:53:47 | |
gone down because the costs have gone up. | 0:53:47 | 0:53:50 | |
As easyJet's biggest shareholder, | 0:53:50 | 0:53:52 | |
he wants to stop the company buying new planes. | 0:53:52 | 0:53:55 | |
Every airline at the end of the day goes bust because it buys | 0:53:57 | 0:54:00 | |
one aircraft too many that flies on one unprofitable route. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:02 | |
And multiply that by 150, and you end up like Pan American, TWA | 0:54:02 | 0:54:07 | |
and other great names of the sky. | 0:54:07 | 0:54:09 | |
Stelios's fears are at odds with easyJet's management. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:15 | |
For the airline not to buy any more planes, we would be in decline | 0:54:15 | 0:54:19 | |
and we believe that we can continue to grow, as I said, | 0:54:19 | 0:54:22 | |
to grow profitably and to deliver returns to shareholders. | 0:54:22 | 0:54:25 | |
Welcome, easyJet, for their first flight and more opportunities | 0:54:34 | 0:54:38 | |
for more Russians to come and see more of Britain. | 0:54:38 | 0:54:41 | |
So how much more scope is there for low-cost airlines to grow? | 0:54:46 | 0:54:50 | |
That's great, hold that there, thank you. | 0:54:50 | 0:54:52 | |
Well, while the average Brit now makes more than three short haul flights a year, | 0:54:52 | 0:54:58 | |
in France, it's less than two, | 0:54:58 | 0:55:00 | |
and in Poland it's less than one flight every two years. | 0:55:00 | 0:55:04 | |
Carolyn, down here, please. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:06 | |
So, if the rest of Europe starts flying as much as the British, | 0:55:06 | 0:55:10 | |
low-cost airlines should continue to do well. | 0:55:10 | 0:55:13 | |
But Stelios has his doubts. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:19 | |
I mean, some of these countries that display a very low propensity | 0:55:19 | 0:55:24 | |
to travel is because they live in a very beautiful country in the first place. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:28 | |
Remember, you live in the UK, | 0:55:28 | 0:55:29 | |
and you're conditioned over the last three or four decades that | 0:55:29 | 0:55:34 | |
holiday means getting on an aeroplane and going to the sun, mostly, | 0:55:34 | 0:55:37 | |
away from your country, because your country doesn't have sun. | 0:55:37 | 0:55:40 | |
But this doesn't happen in the South of France and in Spain and Portugal. | 0:55:40 | 0:55:43 | |
They live in the sun already. | 0:55:43 | 0:55:45 | |
Despite Stelios's fears, easyJet's announced plans to order 135 new planes from Airbus. | 0:55:45 | 0:55:51 | |
But McCall says the battle of the low-cost airlines is about customers. | 0:55:51 | 0:55:56 | |
The difference between easyJet and Ryanair is that we have | 0:55:56 | 0:55:59 | |
really good service on board and on the ground | 0:55:59 | 0:56:02 | |
and we care about our passengers. There's a big difference there. | 0:56:02 | 0:56:06 | |
You don't think Ryanair cares about their passengers? | 0:56:06 | 0:56:09 | |
I'll leave you to judge that. | 0:56:09 | 0:56:10 | |
I think we're the airline that people love to hate. | 0:56:11 | 0:56:14 | |
You know, there's the sensationalism that comes out of Michael's interactions with the press, | 0:56:14 | 0:56:19 | |
but underneath the covers we're an incredibly efficient airline. | 0:56:19 | 0:56:23 | |
We're today announcing and celebrating four new routes here at Katowice... | 0:56:23 | 0:56:29 | |
As a business, Ryanair is now valued at £7 billion - | 0:56:29 | 0:56:34 | |
more than both easyJet and British Airways. | 0:56:34 | 0:56:37 | |
The strategy remains what it's been since O'Leary took over. | 0:56:40 | 0:56:44 | |
We cannot offer low fares without having a really low cost base. | 0:56:46 | 0:56:50 | |
So that means that if we have to get up in the morning | 0:56:50 | 0:56:53 | |
and have a fight with everybody, we will. | 0:56:53 | 0:56:54 | |
We are absolutely determined to do that. | 0:56:54 | 0:56:57 | |
Any of the carriers that we have seen that have failed | 0:56:57 | 0:57:02 | |
have all lost one thing - they lost control of their cost base. | 0:57:02 | 0:57:05 | |
And you do that in this industry at your peril. | 0:57:05 | 0:57:07 | |
This is a very, very competitive industry, | 0:57:07 | 0:57:09 | |
very, very capital intensive, and if you are not in control of your cost base, | 0:57:09 | 0:57:14 | |
you've got lots of problems coming your way. | 0:57:14 | 0:57:16 | |
In April, Ryanair demonstrated its confidence in the future with | 0:57:20 | 0:57:24 | |
an order for 175 new planes from Boeing. | 0:57:24 | 0:57:28 | |
I still have this vision that, in time, the flights will be free, | 0:57:29 | 0:57:34 | |
but we'll get paid for all the other optional services around. | 0:57:34 | 0:57:37 | |
Now, we're not quite at that level yet, | 0:57:37 | 0:57:40 | |
but you can really begin to say to people around the UK and Europe, | 0:57:40 | 0:57:43 | |
"Your flight will cost 20 quid. | 0:57:43 | 0:57:44 | |
"In five years' time, it will cost ten quid. | 0:57:44 | 0:57:47 | |
"And then in ten years' time it might cost 5 quid." | 0:57:47 | 0:57:49 | |
Then we'll be carrying 500 million passengers. And why not? | 0:57:49 | 0:57:53 | |
A realistic ambition from one of the most successful | 0:57:55 | 0:57:58 | |
executives in the business - or just another piece of O'Leary spin? | 0:57:58 | 0:58:03 | |
You decide. | 0:58:03 | 0:58:04 | |
-How many more cities today, then? -Two more cities today. | 0:58:07 | 0:58:10 | |
We do... Next is Wroclaw, and then back home to Dublin. | 0:58:10 | 0:58:13 | |
Should be back in the office by about 4 o'clock. | 0:58:13 | 0:58:16 | |
And then the day's work has to start. | 0:58:16 | 0:58:18 | |
All the best. | 0:58:20 | 0:58:22 | |
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