The Banker's Guide to Art


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This is a film directed at you.

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Yes, you. Bankers of Britain.

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Now, ladies and gentlemen,

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you may have noticed that the art market

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has done pretty well in recent years.

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Sold, 887 at 450,000.

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Better than the stocks and shares,

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commodities and those complicated financial products

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that you trade in.

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BELL CLANGS

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If you go back ten years it was worth half of what it's worth today.

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It's worth about £40 billion today.

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The prices have just gone, in some cases, stupid.

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10, 20 times what one originally paid for them.

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A work of art is beautiful,

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but its...but its value is beyond comprehension.

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You shouldn't really be buying into art

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with less than, probably, 100,000, or 200,000.

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About £100,000.

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190, it's still going, ladies and gentlemen. Jump back in.

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190. 200,000. And ten I'll take.

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And you, dear bankers, are particularly fortunate.

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You are living in the gold-rush city of the art market.

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London has become an amazing art centre, and, really,

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outside of New York it's THE centre of the art world.

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And in some ways it's a more interesting centre of the art world,

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because it's a more international centre.

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Many of you are already buying art.

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That's one of the reasons the market's grown.

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But not all of you.

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Some of you are still shy about

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spending your strenuously earned millions on art.

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£2 million. £2 million.

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You are right to be cautious.

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Making money out of art is not as easy as it looks.

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Your bid. Don't bid against yourself,

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I'll take it once from you, 220, 230.

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It's interesting how many collectors regret

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their first two or three buys.

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The eight paintings of dogs playing poker in my basement

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are never going to re-sell!

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But there is a way to play and win in this market.

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Just like there is in the financial world.

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The business may have grown beyond all recognition

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in the last two decades,

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but the tricks of the trade are as old as time itself.

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Look at euros, at 76 million.

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-It's cheaper.

-LAUGHTER

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Art follows money.

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Follow my advice and you too can make a fortune

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in the casino of culture.

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Being in the art world is like being in the Mafia,

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there are things that no-one will talk about.

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But I just feel compelled to share the information.

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It's a question of how much you have to play.

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7,750,000. Eight million.

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Last chance, I'm selling it.

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You go to Las Vegas, you want to play at the 5 table,

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the 50 table or the...10,000 table, or the 20,000 table?

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I mean, what's your... pain threshold?

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Yes or no?

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Then, how close to the bone are you really going to cut this thing?

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I'm going to imagine that you have the basics -

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over £10 million in the bank, a yacht, luxury London apartment,

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a second home in Monaco, an offshore bank account,

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and if not a private jet then at least access to one.

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Good. Are you sitting comfortably in your designer Italian armchair?

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Then we can begin.

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The first rule is simple.

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Think of art as an asset class.

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An investment, like stocks and shares, gold and currency.

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Of course, it can be pretty.

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But art is better than a vase of flowers or a handbag.

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Anybody else now?

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At 1,600,000 and selling here.

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There are lots of investments you can make these days

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in luxury objects - boats, cars -

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where the value goes down.

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But there are some where you know the value can go up.

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8.5, there it is.

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2,500,000.

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Non? C'est non.

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2,700,000. Thank you, sir.

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Do you want to come back in?

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Excellent.

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-Are you definitely out?

-Are you done?

-2,300,000 is here, then.

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Catherine. Sold at 8,500,000, and your number's 881.

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Francis Outred is one of the masterminds

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of the rise of the art market.

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So these are our New York highlights.

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These are sort of masterpieces of minimalism.

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He cut his teeth promoting Young British Artists,

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before working at the big auction houses

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Sotheby's and then Christie's.

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Tonight we had 113 lots.

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Of which 99 sold.

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Just 14 were unsold, so about 92% overall.

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Really incredible. I think that shows the thirst for art,

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it shows the desire to collect art.

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The growth of value that we've seen over the last 15 years

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has encouraged more people to come into the marketplace...

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who want to invest in something they can enjoy.

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Let us not deny that many of the wealthiest people in the world

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buy art for the same reason that they date models.

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Because they can. Because they love how they - I mean it - looks.

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But there is an army of collectors who quite understandably

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expect their art to do more than please their eye and mind.

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I think you'll find that almost every major collector is looking at,

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"I've bought this great picture, and, by the way, what's it worth?"

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I know a lot of collectors now, in New York City particularly,

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and it's quite disturbing to me,

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they strictly look at the financial aspect.

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So they want, you know, sofa art,

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meaning if it can't hang over the sofa they won't buy it.

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And they want to buy what they think the bourgeoisie of tomorrow

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will want, so that they can buy it and sell it to them next year.

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You know, someone who buys a screwed-up...

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-you know...

-Go on!

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-You know...

-LAUGHTER

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That. Someone who's prepared to go into a gallery

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to buy that for ten grand, or 100 grand, let's be...

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-you know, let's be generous about it.

-Yeah?

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£100,000 for a screwed-up piece of paper.

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Now, we're talking about the kind of person who won't spend 1p

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on anything without knowing they're going to make money back.

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Jake Chapman, one half of the British artistic duo

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the Chapman brothers,

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saw his work take off in critical acclaim - and financial value -

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in the '90s,

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as one of the new generation of British artists known as the YBAs.

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There has always been a convergence between the notion of

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a beautiful work of art and its speculative figure.

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But in today's world art is more useful than it ever was.

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It's a financial instrument in the sophisticated global economy.

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There are hedge funds investing in art,

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and finance companies lending money,

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taking the art you own as collateral.

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Philip Hoffman runs the world's largest business of this kind,

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with over £240 million in assets.

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This is an incredibly busy time of the year.

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We're involved in an 80 million transaction

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that sprung up about a week ago,

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we're signing off on deals

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of perhaps 10 million or 15 million this week,

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and we're arranging various transactions

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from low-end to high-end

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of many, many millions for clients in multiple countries.

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Price rises have been so steep that many veteran collectors

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have been priced, almost tragically, out of the market.

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I'll make a statement now concerning the buying of pictures

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which you have to think about for a few seconds.

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I can't afford my own pictures.

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If they came on the market, I couldn't afford to buy them.

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The prices have just gone, in some cases, stupid.

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10, 20 times what one originally paid for them.

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Until the 19th century,

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the art market was a trade that just trickled,

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where aristocrats bought antiquities and Renaissance masters.

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The exception was 17th-century Holland.

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There the urban middle class drove a bull market in art.

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But the European art market only really took off in the mid-1800s,

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when all the nouves, the wealthy new entrepreneurs and industrialists,

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caught the collecting bug for both Old Masters

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and what was then modern art.

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Art became a popular passion, too.

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Half a million people were attending the Paris Salon

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by the end of the century.

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Here are the country bumpkins, erm,

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amid the town sophisticates,

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creeping into the edge of the picture.

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This was real middle-class life,

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and it was loved and priced into the skies by middle-class people.

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It was the first really big price on the Victorian contemporary-art boom.

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£1,500 in 1858, which hadn't been seen for a living artist.

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The change to seeing art as a form of profit

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came in the middle of the 19th century

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when the art market fell into the hands of the middle class,

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into the new big industrial fortunes.

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And the great difference between a king, a prince

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and a landed aristo and the new middle-class merchants

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is that the former, by and large, bought art to keep,

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while the middle class has always kept an eye on a profit.

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At 1,450,000.

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Today's collectors and dealers tell you that art as an asset

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is a recent phenomenon.

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So, you might quite reasonably think

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this is a craze that will come and go.

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Anybody else now?

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But the smart guys in the room, across the Channel,

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saw the future over a century ago.

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Back in 1904, a group of collectors, under the direction, if you want,

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of a private collector called Mr Level,

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decided to put money in a big pot

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and buy works of contemporary artists

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during a period of ten years.

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And they had decided from the beginning

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that after that period of ten years

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they would sell the works at auction and hopefully making a profit.

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In the end he acquired - they acquired -

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145 pictures, drawings, watercolours.

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The total of their purchase comes up to almost 27,000 French francs.

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Among the works Level bought was a legendary Picasso.

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Level had to negotiate to buy it for 1,000 francs with Picasso.

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Picasso was not easy to convince to sell at this price.

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But Level gave him an advance,

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300 francs,

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and he caught him like that because Picasso spent the money

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and then he had to give him the picture!

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It's huge. It's two metres 35 by two metres...40 or something.

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It's a very large painting.

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In fact, it is so large that...

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they never were able to hang it anywhere, so it was...

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it always stayed rolled up!

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Er, Level bought it in 1908,

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and they never really enjoyed this painting,

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it was kept stored somewhere.

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Because it was too big.

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In 1914, Level sent his 145 works of art off to be auctioned,

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the Picasso included.

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The Picasso is here, Picasso, Les Bateleurs.

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It's the first time it comes up for auction

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so there is a lot of tension in the room.

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People have come to look at that.

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There is a battle between two dealers,

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and finally a German dealer buys the picture for more than 11,000 francs.

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People start clapping their hands and they are so happy.

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There was a person there who writes in the paper the next day

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that he felt so happy he felt like singing.

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In total Level's collection was sold for almost 100,000 francs,

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four times what he paid for it.

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That was the gratifyingly profitable dawn of art

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you bankers could bank on.

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If you look at some of the wealthiest families in the world,

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the Mellon, the Rothschilds,

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the Rockefellers, Steve Cohen the hedge-fund manager,

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they have made more money, probably, out of their art investments

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over the long term than they ever did out of their businesses.

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But there is something new afoot.

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Now, you bankers don't just trade in one thing in one country,

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and you all lost a packet in the crash,

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so that's made art a more desirable,

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useful and profitable asset than anyone dreamt possible.

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Everybody burned their fingers back in 2008,

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where they had all their money in either stocks or in bank deposits

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or in bonds, and even real estate, and all of them collapsed.

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And people were scrambling around thinking, what the hell do I do?

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It's been another tumultuous morning on the markets.

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Some of Britain's biggest banks

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have seen their share prices plummet again.

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The Dow Jones average closed down more than 500 points this afternoon.

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Lehman Brothers is now officially...

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-GEORGE W BUSH:

-The market is not functioning properly.

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Major sectors of America's financial system are at risk of shutting down.

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We are a minute from midnight in terms of outright catastrophe.

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And, actually, art didn't collapse.

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And there were some... and a year later, in 2009,

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there were some world-record prices paid for...

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Giacometti, Walking Man, that made over 100 million,

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new world-record price.

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This angular piece was inspired by Giacometti's belief

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that the stride symbolised life force.

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So what I said is, look back at history

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and see in economic downturns

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what happens to all the other asset classes, and what happens to art.

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Since the financial crisis,

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governments have printed trillions of dollars and pounds and euros,

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wondering where some of it went.

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Is that a bid? 73 million.

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Here it is.

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Sold at 350. 910.

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You've got a situation

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where I think art does better during times of income inequality.

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We've seen studies on that.

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Not just general economic activity.

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So that when the rich are getting richer,

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you know, after you've bought your three homes and five Ferraris,

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art seems to be a natural place to put the rest of your excess cash

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looted from your... central-African country.

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So...

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So, now you know how to think about art,

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it's time to turn your attention to what art to buy.

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Today many of the world's most influential collectors

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have come here to Frieze, one of the world's most important art fairs.

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Nowadays, most art is bought at fairs like this,

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where galleries from all over the world rent booths

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and show a selection of work by the artists they represent.

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It's actually quite funny.

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If you ask dealers, gallery owners and collectors

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what art you should buy, they will always initially say...

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It sounds like a cliche, but collect what you like.

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Collect because it looks good on your wall,

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that every day you walk by it you smile.

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These works are all about a kind of fictional archaeology.

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Something that appears like it's from now,

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right, this figure is wearing Nike shoes.

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So this one is made of ash, volcanic ash,

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-and steel.

-I have one of his pieces on my desk.

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It's a different type of history, forward-looking, looking back now.

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I think it's fantastic.

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Jim Chanos, estimated net worth 1.5 billion,

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is one of the world's most successful hedge-funders,

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famous for shorting the market.

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Don't do this for the money, it's a bit of a mug's game if you do that.

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I think the people who have done the best in terms of collecting or...

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are people who actually...

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they are the believers, they actually love something,

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they're enthusiastic about something.

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They believe in it, it excites them, it wakes them up

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in the middle of the night, or they're like, "I really want that!"

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And then they get it and they feel so good about it.

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Adam Lindemann is the son of a multi-billionaire entrepreneur

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and is one of the world's most successful collectors.

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You know, I have a terrible case of FOMO.

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You know what FOMO is?

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Fear of missing out. I have the worst FOMO in the world.

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So if you don't show up you don't know.

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He was an early buyer of YBAs Damien Hirst, Chris Ofili

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and Japanese pop artist Takashi Murakami.

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And having established himself as a collector and then a dealer,

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he went on to open his own art gallery.

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From the gallery perspective, from the collector perspective, I mean,

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if you don't show up you don't really see what others are doing,

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what others are showing, what others are selling or buying.

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Market knowledge, and also, there's always something to find.

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I mean, this is like a treasure hunt.

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If you don't love it, don't think the next person will.

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It is true that many of the world's wealthiest people

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do buy art because they love it.

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But, dear bankers and novice collectors,

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that is a terrible idea

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if you wish to make a proper return on your equity.

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And, whatever they may say at first,

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billionaire collectors know it can be a road to ruin.

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Any collector's journey will always transform as they buy.

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I think it's interesting how many collectors

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regret their first two or three buys

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but, actually, in the end, come back and say,

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"I'd like to keep that, it's part of my history."

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When someone tells you, "I buy what I like," that's the kiss of death.

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The thing is, you like what you know.

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So if you've only had fish and chips

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and someone puts a piece of sushi in front of you,

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you're not going to like it.

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But if you try sushi, and then you get used to it, suddenly,

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you feel good, you love sushi.

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You love Japanese restaurants, "I can't wait to go to Tokyo!"

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But you're the same person who two years ago loved fish and chips.

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The more you learn, it's going to change.

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The more times you go to the Tate, the more times

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you see the galleries, your taste is going to change.

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3 million. 3,100,000.

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If you wish your art to pay dividends then you need to focus on

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the art where other collectors compete to own works.

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Thank you, sir.

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Because that is where prices rise.

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2,300,000, paddle 827, the Richter.

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Richter, Warhol, Hirst, Basquiat and Koons,

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all the big-name artists have shot up

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because their work has been chased by millionaires and billionaires

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from Europe, Russia and Asia.

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There is a herd mentality

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among a certain 0.0.1% of people,

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I think they're called the plutocrats,

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who don't really come from any particular country,

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who fly about in aeroplanes, and they all know each other,

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they all want the same interior designer,

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they all have the same dentist, they all want the same art.

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Trends in contemporary art are set by a few very influential

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and affluent collectors, as Charles Saatchi once did.

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He established a new movement in art in the 1990s

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by heavily collecting a generation of Young British Artists,

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whose art scandalised a nation and enthralled the art market.

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Saatchi's like Ronald, isn't he? He's the universal pariah.

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He's never going to be allowed to be a person

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who had any positive influence on the art world.

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Every single time I hear, if someone says, "What about Saatchi?",

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there's this kind of notion that somehow there's this

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malevolent behind-the-scenes character who put together something

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which we shouldn't believe is a thing, and that's kind of...

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That's quite weird. Because it also sort of presents the notion that,

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if you think about the YBA Sensation thing,

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that somehow there was someone manipulating things,

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which is not to say there's not, but the question is to say,

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when are people not manipulating things?

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I think there's no doubt

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that there's a sort of billionaires' battle going on here.

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The desire to have the best works of art,

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the most difficult to obtain, the fact that

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it is actually quite difficult to get your hands on

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a really prime Jeff Koons, in fact virtually impossible,

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I think that adds to this sort of... this competition

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and this is one of the reasons why

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very rich people are vying to bag the best trophies.

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But once again, permit me to repeat myself,

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don't think that this is a newfangled fad.

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In the 19th century,

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industrialists in Britain and America

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competed to buy the big-name artists of the day.

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Just then as now, you had sudden, dramatic,

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explosive rises in price.

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The best example of all

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is the picture known in those days as The Grand Canal,

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which changed hands ten times between 1859 and 1885.

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And it moved from £2,600 to £20,000 in those 23 years.

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But Landseer went up like a rocket, Millais, Holman Hunt.

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Then you had the sexy painters of ancient Greece and Rome

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who got the nude back into the Victorian household

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in the 1870s and '80s.

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Anything which looked muddy and dark and oily,

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they shot into the sky and stayed high until 1908, 1909, 1910.

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Ladies and gentlemen, follow the money,

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buy the art liked by people more important than you.

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I have absolutely no idea what this is.

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So, let's see what our important collectors are looking at today.

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-Como esta?

-Voy a hacer un interview en tu booth.

-Adelante.

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-Please.

-BBC.

-Excellent. Go ahead.

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Any press is good press!

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Jimmie Durham is an American-Indian artist.

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He's different. He's conceptual.

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I think the works are aesthetic and beautiful.

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I like the pathos, I like the sadness of it.

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You know? It's very poor, but it...

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You put that Venetian luxury in it

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and there's some sort of a poetic energy in it.

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I'm dreaming of doing a show of Jimmie Durham,

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because I think he's incredibly timely

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and he won't show in the United States.

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Maybe I like this one better. Yeah, I like this one better.

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I would take this one over that one.

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I think that tall thing, that might break or whatever,

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but that's a good piece, too.

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Let's try and buy this.

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It's not that expensive either. That's the other thing.

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It's like...I think it's a good deal.

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Well, Theaster Gates is a Chicago-based artist and I think

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he actually embodies the passionate side of contemporary art.

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One of the few artists I think right now

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that is sort of saying something beyond his art.

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His work really focuses on civil rights in the United States

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and the black experience in the South.

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His father was a roofer in Mississippi, worked in tar.

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And he uses things like tar.

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I have a tapestry of his in Miami that's made of fire hoses

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from the period of which the demonstrators were hosed down.

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I think he's an important artist. I have a number of his works.

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So can I buy this one?

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I believe he's on hold, but I can check. I can double-check.

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Would you let me? I've been wanting to buy a Jimmie Durham for,

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-like, two years from you guys!

-I know.

-Why won't you sell me one?

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I will. I will sell you one.

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No, but tell me why?

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-You don't like me?

-Don't say that.

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Now, perhaps you are still holding out,

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one of those obstinate new collectors who say,

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"I am going to buy the art I like, just like Adam Lindemann."

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Well, you may find that simply impossible.

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As a new collector, to get into the mega galleries,

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they're difficult to enter,

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and some of the galleries have hot artists they can sell everywhere

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and they don't need new collectors for that.

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But they also have artists which are not that popular

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and in order for you to build a relationship with the gallery

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it means that you have to buy some things you don't want

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in your collection, but they need to get rid of.

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So, who to turn to?

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Well, you pay top dollar for advice on the best healthcare,

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childcare, interior design -

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so too, art.

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Even billionaires like Jim Chanos

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don't just buy the art they or their friends like.

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Oh, no. They hire experts whose job is to identify

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the art and artists that are on the up.

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We've gotten into this environment

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where the advisers are in the middle,

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so we're now in this sophisticated art environment

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where you don't just buy your art, you buy your adviser

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and then your adviser tells you what to do.

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When young people come and say, "Where should I start, Jeffrey?"

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I say, "For heaven's sake, get a good adviser who you trust."

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I got invited as an amateur

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to judge the Royal Watercolour Society competition and...

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met for the first time - this was 30 years ago - Dr Christopher Beetles,

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and we became friends.

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And I realised that I knew nothing about art once I'd met him

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and he guided me very carefully

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and taught me to look more carefully and taught to me how to look.

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Somewhat of an irony that the picture I chose

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for the winning prize was dismissed by Dr Beetles

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and the rest of the snooty people on the panel

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and won the People's Prize.

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So I suspect I've always had... the people's view,

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but he was able to refine that.

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Lisa Schiff is an art adviser whose clients include Leonardo DiCaprio.

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As there is more product and more supply,

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it's also ever more complicated and ever more important,

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if you're thinking of things as asset allocation,

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to be very selective about the artists that you're looking at,

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and the works by those artists that you're looking at.

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This is a female painter named Elizabeth Peyton.

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She's really a portrait painter but also someone who depicts the people

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and friends around her.

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This is a drawing of Phoebe Philo, who's an English designer

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I believe works for Celine,

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and one of the things I love about Elizabeth

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is her ability to capture the soul through the eyes.

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I mean, she has an unbelievable ability to depict that.

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Elizabeth Peyton has been one of the most commercially successful female

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artists since the '90s.

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Back then, you could buy a painting by her for around 70,000.

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Now, they could set you back half a million.

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Like this contemplative portrait of Leonardo DiCaprio.

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I will make sure that I can disclose what I think the market...

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future probability is of any work of art that we're going to buy,

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just so there are no surprises.

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And I could be completely wrong, by the way.

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I'm not a magician, but I can say this is what I SEE happening,

0:28:480:28:52

here's the POTENTIAL.

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And maybe there's no potential.

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Of course, great wealth is not always acquired

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by the most elegant means

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or made in the most democratic environment or fairest society.

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You might have made your fortune mining potash

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or betting on the collapse of the property market.

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But an art adviser can help you transform your home

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into an oasis of culture.

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Malek Sukkar runs a waste-management company based in the Middle East.

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In London, he and his wife have been collecting art for over a decade,

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listening carefully to their art adviser.

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She's Viennese. She's sadly since died.

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She was actually one of the OWAs, the Older Women Artists

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that suddenly trended a couple of years ago.

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Prue O'Day has run a consultancy since the 1990s.

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Among her clients, accountants Ernst and Young, multinational Unilever,

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and the British Treasury.

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When I was originally recommended to them,

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they really just wanted to fill the house with lovely things.

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They were very curious,

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but sort of quite apprehensive about the art world.

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This corner brings a smile to everyone's face.

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That's the quirky side of the collection, right?

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It's where we began to have a bit of fun with installing

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in a very different way.

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'We started off quite gradually,'

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and then they really got the bug and could see the huge feedback

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they were getting in their personal lives.

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Collecting in depth makes you follow the trajectory of the artist,

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and you become more acquainted with their work

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and...they become your friends, so to speak.

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I think what's really interesting is

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they're a very engaging couple, they're very well liked.

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'And they have a lot of fun.'

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This piece is actually part of the naughty side of the collection

0:30:470:30:51

that no-one knows about. It's a little teaser.

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A beautiful bum painting in the smallest room in the house!

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And so appropriate.

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But Malek really carries in his soul

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all of the troubles that have happened in Lebanon,

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which he was directly affected by, and he's quite honest about this

0:31:060:31:10

visceral thing that really, really moves him.

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Do you remember when we saw that piece the first time?

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I'll never forget.

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Because this was our first time together.

0:31:180:31:21

And within a couple of minutes, Malek said, "I want it."

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A lot of people are shocked when they look at it.

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I've learnt to love it, to live with it, to appreciate it,

0:31:290:31:33

and every single day I discover a little bit more humanity

0:31:330:31:37

in that painting.

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Here we've got the Pawel Althamer,

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which we found at Frieze in about 2011.

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-He's quite a spooky artist, I think.

-Yeah.

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'I was very impressed from the outset about...

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'their bravery, really.'

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Because if everyone is saying to you,

0:31:570:31:59

"Oh, this is just the most extraordinary work and this is the best one!"

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you tend to believe everybody else.

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I think it's a step forward in the collection history,

0:32:050:32:09

again with this idea of decay and decomposition.

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In the end, it's all subjective and no-one knows for sure.

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Someone asked me once, "Your house is on fire,

0:32:190:32:23

"which piece do you grab and run away with?"

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And I think it's this piece by Louise Bourgeois.

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It's very minimalistic but has a lot of meaning.

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So, you've started your collection, you've got an adviser.

0:32:340:32:38

Now it's time to venture out into the wider world.

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In the art business, a sales pitch can be all smoke and mirrors.

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The dealers will always tell you, like, you know,

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three seconds after the doors open, that everything's sold.

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But of course what that means is that people have reserved the works.

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You know, the art consultants and advisers go through and they go,

0:33:080:33:12

"My client's interested in that, that, that and that,"

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and thus the work is reserved,

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and if you ask about it a day later, they'll say, "Well, it's sold."

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But in fact of the matter,

0:33:200:33:21

no cash has yet changed hands and may never change hands and so works

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that are reserved or taken off the market or off the walls at Frieze

0:33:260:33:30

may in fact be back on the market within weeks.

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In the world of high finance, as you traders will know,

0:33:340:33:38

there are burdensome regulations.

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You have to do the best by your clients,

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whether you are buying or selling.

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If you don't, you can get a hefty and irritating fine.

0:33:440:33:49

In the art world,

0:33:490:33:50

you'll be pleased to hear that almost none of this applies.

0:33:500:33:54

There are frequent instances where conflict of interest could arise

0:33:540:33:58

which wouldn't be necessarily the case in other industries.

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Kenny Schachter collects, deals and writes about the art market.

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If I'm selling a painting for 20 million or 30 million,

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which I've done, the fees are typically 2-4%.

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But the law is pretty much whatever you can get away with,

0:34:150:34:19

for all intents and purposes.

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780,000?

0:34:200:34:22

Still going at 780,000.

0:34:240:34:25

Lady's bid, centre right still, Louis.

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Last chance, I'm selling it at £780,000.

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The issue is this. If you're a collector,

0:34:320:34:35

you're newly wealthy and you'd like to join this private club

0:34:350:34:38

that's exclusive and storied

0:34:380:34:40

but you're not a member of it yet,

0:34:400:34:42

there is a natural tendency not to want to rock the boat

0:34:420:34:46

and to want to play by the club's rules.

0:34:460:34:49

But the club's rules go like this -

0:34:490:34:51

I will tell you how much an object is worth,

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I will tell you what is authentic and what isn't

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and you will pay however much I tell you this is worth.

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You have it, 826 at 300,000.

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Unless you have a specific contract for the purpose,

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the art dealer will be working in his own interests, naturally.

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950 is here.

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As one Russian oligarch recently found out to his cost.

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For ten years, Dmitry Rybolovlev, the owner of Monaco Football Club,

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bought art from this man, Yves Bouvier,

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an art dealer who runs the storage facility the Geneva Freeport.

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So, Bouvier is in this position of knowing what everybody is storing

0:35:320:35:36

in Freeport, which gives him really an upper hand,

0:35:360:35:39

and then he turns around and sells it

0:35:390:35:42

for extortionate prices to this unsuspecting Russian.

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Bouvier was essentially working as an agent on behalf

0:35:460:35:50

of this wealthy collector, and was guiding him on what to buy

0:35:500:35:53

and also able to acquire things that weren't for sale.

0:35:530:35:57

So he felt they had a really symbiotic relationship

0:35:570:36:00

and he understood he would take a cut. That's normal,

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but a cut that might be a few percentage points

0:36:020:36:05

instead of something like 50%.

0:36:050:36:08

Bouvier sold Rybolovlev 2 billion worth of art.

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What Rybolovlev didn't know was how much Bouvier had marked up his prices.

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Bouvier bought a Gustav Klimt for 127.5 million

0:36:220:36:27

and sold it to the Russian for 187 million,

0:36:270:36:31

making a profit of 60 million.

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Bouvier bought Leonardo da Vinci's Salvatore Mundi

0:36:350:36:39

for under 80 million

0:36:390:36:41

and sold it for a profit of 47 million.

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He also made a massive profit on a Modigliani

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he bought from the hedge-funder Steve Cohen.

0:36:480:36:52

Then one day the Russian oligarch found himself chatting

0:36:520:36:56

to Steve Cohen's art adviser.

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A friend of mine called Sandy Heller was at a dinner

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sitting next to a Russian fellow called Rybolovlev,

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as they are prone to be called.

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And Sandy Heller said to Rybolovlev, "What's the last thing you bought?",

0:37:090:37:13

which is a conversation which typically transpires

0:37:130:37:15

amongst collectors and dealers, and it was a Modigliani painting.

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And then Rybolovlev asked Sandy, "What was the last painting you sold?"

0:37:190:37:24

and it was also a Modigliani,

0:37:240:37:25

which turned out to be the very same painting, so of course,

0:37:250:37:28

you don't have to be a detective to figure out

0:37:280:37:31

what the next question was, and the Russian, Rybolovlev, asked,

0:37:310:37:34

"How much did you sell the painting for?"

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The wealthy collector may have no idea what the value of a work should be.

0:37:410:37:46

They know they want in, they know they want famous names.

0:37:460:37:49

They actually like, to a certain extent,

0:37:490:37:51

the high price tag that they're expected to pay,

0:37:510:37:54

but they also don't want to be screwed over.

0:37:540:37:56

Rybolovlev is now suing Bouvier for fraud,

0:37:560:38:00

but in a world which runs on word of mouth rather than paperwork,

0:38:000:38:04

he is not thought to have a very strong case.

0:38:040:38:07

At one point, Rybolovlev turned around to Bouvier and he said,

0:38:070:38:11

"You've charged me... Your fee is the price of a Boeing!"

0:38:110:38:14

In terms of the collectors and the dealers, this is a rich man's game,

0:38:170:38:21

so it's not like eradicating child labour.

0:38:210:38:24

1,490 is here.

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£1,490,000.

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And so there isn't a real moral imperative

0:38:290:38:32

to clean this business up, you know?

0:38:320:38:34

If a billionaire gets ripped off slightly, there aren't going to be

0:38:340:38:37

many people crying about it over their cornflakes.

0:38:370:38:40

£1,500,000.

0:38:400:38:42

Last chance, selling at...

0:38:420:38:44

And it is indeed a murky old game.

0:38:440:38:48

We start the bidding at 1.5.

0:38:480:38:50

1.6, 1.7 already. 1,700,000.

0:38:500:38:52

So, here's my next paradoxical piece of advice.

0:38:520:38:57

At 2 million, then, are we all done?

0:38:570:38:59

The art that goes up in value

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is produced by a small group of artists.

0:39:080:39:11

Collectors compete to own them, and so prices rise.

0:39:110:39:15

This is a big one.

0:39:170:39:18

We have three auctions taking place this week alone.

0:39:180:39:21

The Peter Doig is sort of the marquee painting of the week.

0:39:210:39:24

It's the one that really defines the kinds of things we're trying to do.

0:39:240:39:28

Now, the principle here is the opposite to that which you would

0:39:280:39:31

normally follow in capitalism.

0:39:310:39:34

Don't look for the bargain.

0:39:340:39:36

It often pays to pay over the odds.

0:39:360:39:40

The market today where works are most in demand

0:39:400:39:43

and where price rises are highest is the so-called trophy market.

0:39:430:39:47

This is a big investment at £9 million,

0:39:470:39:49

but I personally believe that is a great investment,

0:39:490:39:52

because Peter Doig is an artist who is now firmly established in art history.

0:39:520:39:57

He's somebody who I think defines his time.

0:39:570:39:59

Peter Doig is a great example of how you can go

0:39:590:40:04

from being a 1,000 artist to an 11 million artist.

0:40:040:40:09

It's completely abstract up close, but when you come further back,

0:40:090:40:13

the view comes into reality.

0:40:130:40:14

In the past 25 years, he...you know,

0:40:160:40:19

getting a good US dealer, having Charles Saatchi interested in him,

0:40:190:40:24

selling a work to the Museum of Modern Art in New York,

0:40:240:40:28

being in the Whitney Biennial...

0:40:280:40:30

I was completely drawn to this.

0:40:300:40:32

This one little area of blue here.

0:40:320:40:35

The apotheosis of Peter Doig was selling at an auction

0:40:350:40:38

full of Russians in 2006,

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when the Russians were very much a part of the market,

0:40:400:40:43

and suddenly he's worth, you know, 11 million.

0:40:430:40:46

Little bits of gloss,

0:40:460:40:49

which is created by a medium.

0:40:490:40:51

A medium in the paint. Which comes across like the sap in the tree.

0:40:510:40:54

I always think it's best to buy quality over quantity.

0:40:540:40:58

So if you've got a budget of, say, £15 million,

0:40:580:41:02

I'd rather buy two amazing paintings than buy 15 average paintings.

0:41:020:41:06

And here, you know you're buying one of the best there is.

0:41:060:41:10

The wealth in the world is just beyond our...

0:41:200:41:22

I mean, I'm personally not in the league, but I advise people who are.

0:41:220:41:26

Would you care for a glass of Champagne, sir?

0:41:340:41:36

I mean, I remember somebody in Russia and he said to me, he said,

0:41:360:41:40

"Philip, come and have a look in my drawing room,

0:41:400:41:43

"I'd like to show you my room," and he said,

0:41:430:41:46

"Over there there's a five, a ten, a 20, a five and a three."

0:41:460:41:49

And he went, "Look around the room," and I wondered what on earth we were talking about.

0:41:490:41:54

And suddenly you are then trying to work out whether it was thousands,

0:41:540:41:58

hundreds of thousands or millions.

0:41:580:41:59

And then I realised that he liked to describe his pictures by millions.

0:41:590:42:03

"That's a five million, that's a 20 million, that's a three million."

0:42:030:42:07

And people are buying art because of ego,

0:42:070:42:09

because they see their biggest competitor buying art

0:42:090:42:13

and they want to spend more and show that they can be more macho.

0:42:130:42:16

And that's one of the reasons why some world-record prices are paid.

0:42:160:42:20

We will always see that power play come in.

0:42:200:42:23

There's been a lot of talk in recent years about how daftly expensive

0:42:230:42:27

contemporary art is.

0:42:270:42:30

"You can buy a masterpiece from the past for half the price

0:42:300:42:33

"of a Basquiat," they say.

0:42:330:42:34

"That proves how inflated the market is, rah, rah, rah."

0:42:340:42:38

Nonsense. Contemporary art, rest assured,

0:42:380:42:42

has been daftly expensive at certain times before.

0:42:420:42:46

In their own day, Turners cost as much as Titians.

0:42:460:42:50

What he's painting is the Thames at Richmond, from Richmond Hill,

0:42:500:42:55

dressed up as a French landscape

0:42:550:42:57

with a few dancing figures in the middle ground.

0:42:570:43:01

He put a price of 300 guineas on this when it was offered for sale

0:43:010:43:05

at the Royal Academy.

0:43:050:43:08

Around the same time, the Titian Noli Me Tangere

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was sold at auction for 330 guineas,

0:43:120:43:15

so the level that Turner seemed to be pricing himself on

0:43:150:43:19

is at the level of a huge masterpiece.

0:43:190:43:23

Quite extraordinary.

0:43:230:43:24

It happened in late Georgian England,

0:43:250:43:28

when Benjamin West was priced above Leonardo.

0:43:280:43:32

It happened in Victorian London and Victorian Paris.

0:43:320:43:36

In Paris, by 1890, Millais and Meissonier

0:43:360:43:39

had been priced up to the level of ten Michelangelos,

0:43:390:43:45

taking the base price there,

0:43:450:43:47

the £2,000 that was paid by the National Gallery in 1868

0:43:470:43:52

for Michelangelo's Entombment.

0:43:520:43:55

You get what you pay for.

0:43:550:43:57

Don't be a cheapskate!

0:43:570:43:59

Now, listening to this,

0:44:020:44:03

you might think that if you should pay a lot for trophy works of art,

0:44:030:44:07

that would mean buying the rarest of masterpieces.

0:44:070:44:11

But that is not quite how the art market works.

0:44:110:44:15

This is a work of art by the Chinese contemporary artist Ai Weiwei,

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perhaps the most famous artist in the world.

0:44:270:44:30

It consists of millions of handmade porcelain sunflower seeds

0:44:300:44:34

and has been described as a work about craft and individualism.

0:44:340:44:39

For this auction, we've tried to bring together a group of Ai Weiweis

0:44:400:44:44

and we have a watermelon ceramic,

0:44:440:44:47

we have a Coca-Cola vase...

0:44:470:44:49

Next, the Coca-Cola vase.

0:44:490:44:51

200,000.

0:44:510:44:52

Somebody jumping in here?

0:44:520:44:53

And we have this, the Grapes.

0:44:530:44:55

The price point here is £350,000 to £450,000.

0:44:550:44:59

£350,000 for the Ai Weiwei stools, 350,000 I'm selling.

0:44:590:45:03

380 will be next.

0:45:030:45:04

Ai Weiwei makes what the art world calls "series of works".

0:45:040:45:10

These watermelons follow the Chinese tradition

0:45:100:45:14

of mimicking organic forms.

0:45:140:45:16

The bicycles nostalgically celebrate

0:45:160:45:18

the popular form of transport under communism.

0:45:180:45:20

Here, he applies principles of geometry and abstraction

0:45:220:45:25

to traditional vases and stools.

0:45:250:45:28

He has made different kinds of amalgamations of different kinds of

0:45:290:45:32

historical furniture and there are four or five pieces in the Royal

0:45:320:45:35

Academy show. One that's not dissimilar to this.

0:45:350:45:38

Ironically, another one is up the road at Sotheby's.

0:45:380:45:43

When Francis says he has "made", that's slightly misleading.

0:45:430:45:47

Like other contemporary artists who make series of works,

0:45:470:45:50

Ai Weiwei has a large studio with scores of assistants

0:45:500:45:54

and sometimes hundreds of craftsmen who make the art for him.

0:45:540:45:58

It is an interesting thing, it's sort of the Andy Warhol question,

0:46:000:46:03

you know? People always said, so many works, how can they hold their value?

0:46:030:46:06

And actually, it's the fact these works have been spread

0:46:060:46:09

all over the world now

0:46:090:46:10

and collectors can see them everywhere

0:46:100:46:12

and in their friends' homes, that's actually made them more valuable.

0:46:120:46:15

One misconception you may have about collecting is that you should buy

0:46:170:46:21

something unique that has been made by the artist's hand.

0:46:210:46:25

Isn't that what makes art so valuable?

0:46:260:46:29

Well, art collectors and market analysts say...not necessarily.

0:46:300:46:35

One of the strengths of Damien Hirst's series

0:46:360:46:39

of dots and spin paintings

0:46:390:46:41

is that most self-respecting collectors would expect to hold

0:46:410:46:46

at least one of those works in their vestibule

0:46:460:46:49

or in their living room, and it would be

0:46:490:46:51

almost a rite of passage into the contemporary art world.

0:46:510:46:54

Some market analysts foolishly suggest that the repetitive artist

0:46:560:47:00

whose assistants make the work is a new and temporary phenomenon.

0:47:000:47:05

But once again, plus ca change.

0:47:050:47:08

Canaletto set up practice here in Britain in 1746

0:47:100:47:15

and was as successful as he had been in his many years at Venice.

0:47:150:47:20

It's astonishing how well planned,

0:47:200:47:23

what a clever businessman Canaletto was and how popular he was.

0:47:230:47:29

During his stay in Britain, Canaletto was very active

0:47:300:47:33

and very prolific, coming on to nearly 100 pictures

0:47:330:47:36

painted over nine years, which, you know, some of those canvases

0:47:360:47:40

are pretty big things.

0:47:400:47:42

It was to some extent almost an assembly-line attitude.

0:47:440:47:49

Yes, you have a master, in our case, Canaletto, who has the vision,

0:47:490:47:54

who creates the ideas behind the picture,

0:47:540:47:57

and there is an agenda in every Canaletto picture,

0:47:570:48:00

they are not just pretty views.

0:48:000:48:02

But to achieve this,

0:48:020:48:04

particularly to achieve the vast numbers of canvases that Canaletto

0:48:040:48:07

created, of course, you need a studio behind you.

0:48:070:48:10

And the same had happened for the past two centuries going back before.

0:48:100:48:14

A lot of the characters we see from canvas to canvas

0:48:160:48:20

are actually the same people.

0:48:200:48:22

He has a stock cast of characters he re-employs in lots of his pictures.

0:48:220:48:26

It's not the Hollywood depiction of the great tortured artist

0:48:260:48:31

who is creating everything on his or her own.

0:48:310:48:34

Really, art practice in the 18th and 19th century,

0:48:340:48:37

particularly, say, in the mid 18th century,

0:48:370:48:39

was a collaborative one.

0:48:390:48:42

Oddly enough, I think we are in certain circumstances in the 20th

0:48:420:48:46

and 21st centuries returning to that idea of 18th-century practice.

0:48:460:48:51

So the workshops of people like Jeff Koons, Damien Hirst and so forth

0:48:510:48:54

are very similar to the workshops of Canaletto.

0:48:540:48:57

As a banker, you will recognise a potential problem

0:48:590:49:03

with the market which favours production-line art.

0:49:030:49:06

It's easy for mass production to become overproduction

0:49:060:49:10

and then for supply to outstrip demand.

0:49:100:49:14

How do you protect yourself against that?

0:49:140:49:17

The advice you usually hear from the art world is to focus

0:49:290:49:33

on just a few artists and buy their work in depth.

0:49:330:49:37

Sometimes, one...

0:49:370:49:40

can have a very big windfall in the sense there will be

0:49:400:49:44

one particular artist you bought several years ago

0:49:440:49:47

and suddenly the value rises considerably, and you are sitting on

0:49:470:49:50

what would potentially be a big profit.

0:49:500:49:53

David Roberts is a property developer,

0:49:540:49:57

thought to be worth over £150 million.

0:49:570:50:00

He has his own private museum in London.

0:50:000:50:03

I collect primarily because I like the art and I love the art.

0:50:050:50:10

And I very, very rarely sell anything.

0:50:100:50:14

There's over 2,000 works of art in the collection.

0:50:140:50:18

I can't imagine I've probably sold more than 15 or 20 things

0:50:180:50:22

in my life, so it's not a big part of what I do.

0:50:220:50:24

But buying art is not so very different

0:50:260:50:29

from investing in stocks and shares.

0:50:290:50:31

The art market is unpredictable and volatile.

0:50:310:50:35

You know, I always tell collectors to figure out

0:50:370:50:40

what their throwaway number is.

0:50:400:50:41

One million and one, one million and two already...

0:50:410:50:44

Is it 25,000, is it 10,000?

0:50:440:50:47

At what point are you going to not care if nothing ever happens to it?

0:50:470:50:51

For some people, it's 1 million.

0:50:510:50:54

Three million, one. Three million, two.

0:50:540:50:58

Three million, three.

0:50:580:50:59

People look at these auction prices and say,

0:50:590:51:02

"Well, if you bought a Picasso,

0:51:020:51:04

"it compounded at 12% a year for 80 years."

0:51:040:51:08

But if you bought five other paintings by people who are not Picasso,

0:51:080:51:13

at that period in 1935,

0:51:130:51:16

you wouldn't have earned 12% on the whole group of them.

0:51:160:51:20

Only on the Picasso.

0:51:200:51:22

Thank you.

0:51:220:51:24

Listening to this, you might be thinking, right,

0:51:240:51:27

so I have to make sure I buy the Picasso and not the other five guys.

0:51:270:51:31

Or girls.

0:51:310:51:33

Wrong! The answer is, don't stop at five.

0:51:330:51:37

It's random, because I have bought works by many, many artists

0:51:400:51:44

that were meant to be the next hot thing.

0:51:440:51:47

Or artists who have become the hot thing

0:51:470:51:50

and then it's tailed off and gone downhill slightly.

0:51:500:51:53

Look, it's the psychology.

0:51:560:51:57

If you buy a painting and instead of going

0:51:570:52:01

to do something else with your life,

0:52:010:52:03

you buy this picture and you hang it on the wall and you're checking the

0:52:030:52:07

prices and you see them going down,

0:52:070:52:09

going to be hard not to like it less and less.

0:52:090:52:12

But as the price goes up, then, you're so smart, "Oh, I'm so great,

0:52:120:52:15

"I have a great eye, I've figured it out, I'm so clever!"

0:52:150:52:19

7,750,000, 8 million.

0:52:190:52:22

8,250,000...

0:52:220:52:24

Even the biggest and most experienced art dealers

0:52:240:52:28

have lost money - a lot of money -

0:52:280:52:29

on some of the work they have collected.

0:52:290:52:32

15 million, five. 16 million.

0:52:320:52:34

We've been in this market now for 15 years. Of all the deals we've done,

0:52:340:52:39

we've made money on 97% of the art, we've lost money on 3%.

0:52:390:52:43

To give you an idea of an artist we've lost money on,

0:52:430:52:45

it was a Chinese contemporary artist where we thought we were being

0:52:450:52:49

very clever and going in alongside two or three of the major

0:52:490:52:54

US and UK and Chinese galleries into that particular artist.

0:52:540:52:58

We invested into three works of art at around 200,000 each.

0:52:580:53:03

One we sold for 220, the other sold for 180, so we lost 20,000,

0:53:030:53:08

and the other we sold for 50,000, so we lost 75%.

0:53:080:53:12

That is exactly the bid I wanted to see.

0:53:120:53:14

And that's 642. Thank you.

0:53:140:53:16

So, successful investors,

0:53:160:53:19

instead of concentrating on a few artists, spread their risk.

0:53:190:53:23

When I go forward in my collecting,

0:53:230:53:27

I always try to swing very hard

0:53:270:53:29

and I try to hit the ball out of the park.

0:53:290:53:32

I might miss, but I have big eyes and big ambition.

0:53:320:53:35

And that didn't make me right.

0:53:350:53:37

I ended up buying a lot of things that no-one else wanted.

0:53:370:53:41

But often in any collection that I've seen, including my own,

0:53:410:53:45

of let's say, 50 things, two or three things shoot the moon.

0:53:450:53:51

Ultimately that makes up for the rest.

0:53:510:53:54

If you throw an enormous fishing net out and you catch everything,

0:54:020:54:08

whether you are looking for the good stuff or not,

0:54:080:54:11

it's going to be there and the rest you can just chuck back.

0:54:110:54:15

It doesn't matter.

0:54:150:54:16

Tonight, there is an opening at the Lisson,

0:54:210:54:23

one of the world's most revered art galleries.

0:54:230:54:26

In the 1970s, it pioneered the new work of minimalists and conceptualists.

0:54:270:54:33

It has furthered the careers of million-dollar art stars,

0:54:330:54:37

but it has also shown many others who are almost forgotten today.

0:54:370:54:42

Some of it's worthless,

0:54:420:54:44

some of it has just kept up with inflation

0:54:440:54:47

and some of it's priceless.

0:54:470:54:49

If you'd been collecting from the Lisson for 50 years and had spread

0:54:490:54:53

your risk, you could have an impressive return.

0:54:530:54:57

If you put the sum total of all the works the Lisson Gallery has sold

0:54:570:55:01

over the last nearly five decades...

0:55:010:55:06

..it probably runs to 1 billion or more,

0:55:090:55:13

and if you put that all together,

0:55:130:55:18

hypothetically, and there was the mother of auctions, of all of it,

0:55:180:55:23

you would see probably about 20 or 30 billion back.

0:55:230:55:27

One of the newest trends in the art world is the emergence

0:55:290:55:32

of a new generation of abstract artists.

0:55:320:55:36

Like many other dealers and collectors,

0:55:360:55:38

Kenny Schachter has bought into some of them.

0:55:380:55:40

I have these paintings by Lucien Smith

0:55:430:55:46

and I very much stand behind them and like them as art.

0:55:460:55:49

He must have been around 23 or 24 when he was creating

0:55:490:55:52

this series of works called Rain Paintings,

0:55:520:55:54

of which these two paintings are part of.

0:55:540:55:57

What he did was find the way to compress paint

0:55:570:56:00

into a fire extinguisher and then literally squirt them out

0:56:000:56:03

over canvases.

0:56:030:56:04

These are two small iterations of the works.

0:56:040:56:07

But let's say he has made about 300 of them of various sizes.

0:56:070:56:11

Sometimes the colours vary only slightly to blue, yellow or black,

0:56:110:56:15

and his first paintings that came to auction when he was in his 20s

0:56:150:56:19

zoomed right up to 400,000.

0:56:190:56:22

Since then they've taken a rather precipitous drop

0:56:220:56:25

along with many of the other practitioners of this kind of work.

0:56:250:56:28

I mean, I think these are attractive.

0:56:280:56:31

They pleasantly fit in between these curtains in my house.

0:56:310:56:35

I bought them about two years ago.

0:56:350:56:37

I paid 130,000 for the pair of these paintings.

0:56:370:56:40

And today I would say they are worth around...

0:56:400:56:44

8,000-10,000 a painting.

0:56:440:56:46

You can't win them all.

0:56:460:56:48

But wisely, Lucien Smith was not the only new abstract painter

0:56:490:56:53

that Schachter had been buying.

0:56:530:56:55

This is a work of a 42-year-old American artist, Joe Bradley.

0:56:580:57:02

I began working with him in around 2001-2002,

0:57:020:57:06

an abstract painter and he also did some performance work.

0:57:060:57:09

He had a band called Cheeseburger,

0:57:090:57:11

in which he was as sloppy at singing as this painting looks.

0:57:110:57:15

So I can understand as a layperson, or someone not involved

0:57:150:57:19

in the day-to-day goings-on of the art world,

0:57:190:57:22

and you come and you see a painting like this and it's not even

0:57:220:57:25

a situation of someone to say, "Oh, my kid could do a better job than this."

0:57:250:57:28

This is worse.

0:57:280:57:30

You have to remember, artists constantly have to wrestle

0:57:300:57:33

with these issues, how do you address a white canvas?

0:57:330:57:36

And how do you do something new that hasn't been done before?

0:57:360:57:40

The marks are exquisite, the way the surface of the canvas,

0:57:400:57:43

all of these little creases

0:57:430:57:45

and the way they are not stretched perfectly,

0:57:450:57:47

it's sort of striving for imperfection and finding the beauty

0:57:470:57:51

in the ugly-fication of painting.

0:57:510:57:54

I remember first seeing his paintings and I was drawn to

0:57:540:57:57

what I call "good bad art".

0:57:570:57:59

There was something so wrong about them that I felt compelled

0:57:590:58:03

to get involved with this artist.

0:58:030:58:05

What lurks behind the canvas is something entirely different.

0:58:050:58:09

The paintings were all between 1,000-2,000

0:58:090:58:11

and I was the only buyer of any of the paintings.

0:58:110:58:14

In fact, I bought all of the paintings and still have them.

0:58:140:58:17

Over the course of 12 years,

0:58:170:58:19

the last major painting of Joe's to come at auction sold for 3 million.

0:58:190:58:23

If you are neither a lover or a gambler, carry on.

0:58:250:58:29

It's not for you.

0:58:290:58:31

Now, let me assume a few things again.

0:58:330:58:37

You have become an established collector

0:58:370:58:40

with over 50 works of art in your collection.

0:58:400:58:43

People know you in the art world and auction rooms.

0:58:430:58:46

You have your own storage facility for all the stuff you have bought

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that doesn't fit into your luxury penthouse or on your yacht.

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It's now time to learn how to minimise the cost

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of the art you have bought so far.

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£8 million.

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At £8 million.

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There are certain aspects of today's art market which are new.

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50 years ago, the world did not have a global network of tax havens

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and collectors could not take advantage of the benefits they offered.

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In those early days,

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it was difficult to avoid the many ways art is taxed.

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Living with art costs money and that price can be anywhere from 7% or 8%

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to 50% in South America for value added tax.

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So, if you want to import art into your home,

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you either pay VAT or, in America,

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you are responsible for paying sales tax.

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But with the correct offshore financial planning,

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you can optimise the tax position of your art collection.

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You should begin by moving your art abroad,

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to special tax-free lock-ups

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known as free ports, located in Geneva, Luxembourg or Singapore.

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Free port is a kind of nether world.

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It's not really part of any country,

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so if you dispatch some art to a free port in Switzerland

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or Luxembourg, it hasn't really arrived in those countries,

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so import duties and that kind of tax aren't payable.

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If you go to the free port in Luxembourg, for example,

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it looks like a massive high security prison.

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It happens that the back door, or maybe the front door,

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is actually in the grounds of the airport, so when goods pass into it,

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they don't count as having arrived in the country itself,

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so there are no import duties payable,

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and it suits a lot of people to keep

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their art there for quite a long time.

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There is another tax advantage to offshoring your art,

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this time when it comes to selling.

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To benefit from it, you first need to set up

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an offshore shell company or trust.

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If you were to sell it to a third party,

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you might have a tax bill.

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You probably would have a big tax bill to pay on it.

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But if you sold it to your shell company

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at the price you paid for it,

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you could tell the tax authority that you haven't actually made

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any money, and then when the shell company sells it on...

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erm, it would make the gain

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and it wouldn't have to tell the tax authority.

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Now, that wouldn't...be legal...

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but it would be up to you to choose what you reported

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to the tax authority.

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Zero taxes aren't the only upside.

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Holding your art offshore in a free port

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means your wealth is highly portable.

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The benefits of this rarely come to light, because they're all based on

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privacy, but occasionally the attempts of law enforcement officers

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to stop these activities shine a light on how it is done.

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I mean, there's the man who just put the Picasso on his yacht

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and floated away from Spain.

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The Spanish police took the Picasso to Madrid under armed guard.

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REPORTER SPEAKS SPANISH

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It had been found on a yacht belonging to Jaime Botin,

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scion of the Spanish Santander banking dynasty.

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The police say Botin was trying to smuggle the picture out of Spain.

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Botin says he only owned it indirectly

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through a company located in the tax haven of Panama.

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It seems to me like he's in his right, but they're trying to bring

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it back, so the Picasso was worth, I guess,

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according to the art newspaper, 30 million. Maybe more.

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It's worth more than the boat.

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The little thing that's hanging on this 150-foot yacht is worth more

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than the boat and all the people on it.

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Kind of funny. And he's trying to get the hell out of Spain

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and they're trying to bring him back.

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So...what was the question?

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I daresay that if the authorities clamped down on money laundering

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or elusive capital flows,

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that would have as big an impact on the art market

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as the stock market crash.

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At 76 million.

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Minimising the tax exposure of your collection is one side of the coin.

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The other is maximising its resale value.

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At 77 million. Thank you.

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APPLAUSE

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MUSIC: The Blue Danube by Johann Strauss II

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There's a pass, so we'll break for just two minutes,

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ladies and gentlemen.

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The key to making your art worth totally implausible sums

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is the art market's absence of rules.

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There has always been a code of silence and a gentleman's agreement

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within the art trade and it actually has a cultural history dating back

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to the 18th century.

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The feudal system was over.

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The aristocracy had to figure out how to make a living,

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so they started to sell off their art collections, titles and castles.

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But they didn't want to make public their financial strengths,

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so Christie's and Sotheby's developed a system in which

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they would list a work of art as property of a lady

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or property of a gentleman, but that code of secrecy was important

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early on and is still maintained to this day.

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Here it is. Lady's bid, she has it now.

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Would you like to come in, sir?

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Are you sure? Thank you for the bidding. 360 is here.

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The first lot of tonight's sale, selling, then, at 360.

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It is, for me, the last of the, sort of, unregulated markets out there.

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In a way, it's what makes the industry exciting.

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This is an industry that attracts the good, the bad and the ugly.

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'I think the art market is the most opaque market of all.'

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I think it suits a lot of people to keep it opaque.

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I think a lot of money has been made in the art market because one person

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knows something that someone else doesn't know.

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We'll start the bidding at 500. 550 already. 550. 600,000 is bid.

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650 in the room. That's 650 already. That's 700,000. 750.

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£800,000. 850.

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At 950,000.

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At one million already.

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APPLAUSE

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You would not be able to use many of the techniques I will teach you here

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on your trading floors without risking ending up in court.

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But in the art market, they're common practice,

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and their invention can be traced back to a handful of art dealers

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of the 19th century.

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Among them, Paul Durand-Ruel,

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who invented the market in Impressionism.

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This is Paul Durand-Ruel, who was my great-grandfather.

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He was the first dealer who bought paintings on a regular basis

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from the Impressionist painters,

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to an extent that he went nearly bankrupt twice in his life.

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And after his death, Monet said, "If he had not been there,

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"we, the Impressionists, would have starved to death."

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In the late 19th and early 20th centuries,

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Durand-Ruel bought and sold 12,000 works of art.

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His focus was on the young Impressionists,

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in whose work he wisely built up a semi-monopoly.

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And since this was art, not copper or oil, no-one objected.

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During his life, he purchased 2,000 paintings from Renoir,

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1,000 from Monet, 400 from Pissarro,

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400 from Degas, 200 from Manet.

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He loved the Street Singer.

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Woman With A Parrot.

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The Fifer.

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And, slowly, he's going to try and bring the prices up

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and to find new collectors.

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The American James Sutton,

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director of the American Art Association in New York,

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asked him to organise the 1886 show in New York.

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Durand-Ruel comes with more than 300 works of art.

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American clients are going to finally pay good prices

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for Impressionist pictures, and Europeans are going to have

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a better look, or another look, on these artists

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they didn't really like at first.

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Pictures purchased by Durand-Ruel for a few hundred French francs

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from Renoir will be sold, for example, in 1924

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for more than 100,000.

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Durand-Ruel's massive stake in Impressionism

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allowed him to limit supply to the market

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and therefore influence prices.

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The economics are pretty basic -

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more demand, less supply, the price goes up.

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Paul Durand-Ruel really focused on a few principles,

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which were quite innovative at the time.

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First, he wanted to have the exclusivity of the productions

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of the artists. In exchange, he would give monthly payments

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so that the artists could create without the worry of finance,

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but would also give all their creation to the dealer.

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In that way, he was able to secure the selling prices by having

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the whole production.

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In today's vast art market, it would be extremely risky

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for a new collector to try to follow Durand-Ruel's example

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and stockpile new artists no-one else was interested in.

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So collectors today have found a safer way to play the game -

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by stockpiling already established artists.

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Now, there are collectors who...

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..are investors.

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The Mugrabi family in New York is the best-known example.

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They would bid up the price of a Warhol, or of half a dozen other

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artists that they have in bulk, to protect the value

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of what's in inventory. They're expected to do it.

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If you have a small Warhol flower painting...

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..it will go for about 1.5 million,

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because one of three or four collectors

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who have a number of them will bid it up to that amount.

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If you own a lot of stuff, it behoves you to keep the prices up

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or to support the market that you are so vested in,

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so I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

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At 720,000. 750 is next.

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2 million. 2 million, 1.

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Who shouts? Who'd like to bid back there?

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Now, before we move on,

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there's time for some advanced bidding-up techniques.

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8 million, 5. 9 million. 9 million, 5.

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10 million. 10 million, 5.

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11 million.

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Why not try to form alliances - let's not say the word "collude" -

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with collectors who are buying the same artist as yourself?

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Lady's bid 300,000. Give me 320.

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'If a piece is coming up at auction, it's easy enough,

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'if I'm selling a painting,'

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to have two of my friends in the audience,

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bidding up the price of the painting to an artificially high number,

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and once you've hit the number of 400,

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and if I hold 20 or 30 rain paintings

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and the first one goes for 400,

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you can understand the notion that everyone piles in

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and chucks them into the market and then people participate

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on the prices going up.

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110 is here. 111. Jump in if you'd like it. 120, 130...

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You might not even have to spend your own money

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to maintain the value of your art.

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Cash doesn't always change hands in apparently expensive deals.

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When you have property, you have deed transfers.

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You actually have transactions that are set

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and you can see where the property traded at.

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Your shared transaction, of course, goes on the exchange

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and you see a price.

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In the art market, you, again, have to take what's told to you

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as transaction prices with a large grain of salt,

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because there can be financing terms, there can be swaps,

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there can be barter. I mean, lots of things can happen

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that actually make the economic value of the work

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much lower than what's reported.

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It's almost always, I can assure you, inflated

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to what the reality is.

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A market whose prices are inflated by such means is fragile.

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It relies on ever-increasing demand and huge confidence in the market.

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Neither of these things may last forever.

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'One thing I think that people forget

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'is that to make money out of art, you don't have to just buy it.

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'You have to sell it.'

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And that selling at the right time and for the right price

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is much, much harder than people believe.

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I have, I've...sat next to someone who was selling one of his works

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at auction, and he's a very grown-up, very sophisticated,

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smart investment banker.

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And when this work came up, honestly,

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I could almost hear his heart beating.

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It's incredibly nerve-racking.

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Never forget the risks of buying and selling art.

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48,000.

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Are you sure?

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Publicly, the art world says that a collector should never sell

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works of art they buy,

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and certainly not within a few years of acquiring them.

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Yes? No.

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320.

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There is a nasty word for this activity - flipping.

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'From the collector's point of view,'

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they fear to be called an art flipper...

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erm, or to be blacklisted.

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Selling at £370,000...

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-BANGS HAMMER

-Sold.

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'Not only art collector, art buyer or art speculator'

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buys something in the belief that it's going to double in value.

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Young artist, double in value in six months,

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and they flip it and double their money,

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and they think they can go on doing that again and again and again.

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From the point of view of a gallery or from the point of view of the

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artist, you get to know those people very fast

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and they just go on your blacklist.

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'It's not done to talk about it, but everybody sells,'

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and I know that as a matter of fact, because I buy from those collections

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who publicly say they are not selling.

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Even collectors, who sometimes sell the work they have bought,

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will say that you should never do it.

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You know, a lot of the people who have done the best are not necessarily

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going to the parties, not necessarily living the life,

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but actually love what they collect,

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they keep it for a lifetime and those are the things that are valued by others.

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And if you look at the auction market, more and more,

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those pieces that have been in private collections for decades,

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the fresh material, is what sells the best.

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Well...

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not quite...

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Adam Lindemann is responsible for two of the greatest coups

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in the history of the art market.

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In 2007, he auctioned this Jeff Koons sculpture

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for which he had just paid around 4,000,000.

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It sold for 23.

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This year, he consigned this Basquiat painting to auction.

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He bought it for a record price of 4.5 million in 2004.

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It sold this year for 57.

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I'm someone who...

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You know, I keep some things, I move on with some things.

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It's a moving target all the time.

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6,500,000.

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6,750,000.

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Actually, there's no need to be ashamed as a collector of selling art for a profit.

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7,000,000.

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It is another time-honoured practice.

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Even great dealers, like Durand-Ruel,

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sold to collectors who they knew might resell the work to someone else.

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In 1868, the famous British art critic, John Ruskin,

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bought a painting of Napoleon for 1,000 Guineas

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and then sold it 14 years later for six times the price.

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Today, flipping is just faster...

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Jump in if you want it, 260.

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And there's more of it, as you might expect,

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considering the growth of the market.

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We bought a Peter Doig in 2005 for 880,000.

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We sold it one year later for 2,000,000.

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Fantastic result, doubled our money, a sort of Apple stock result.

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I mean, today, you will maybe find 1% of historic collectors that have

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never resold a piece of work.

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I mean, the traditional sense of a collector,

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someone like that belongs in a vitrine in the Natural History Museum,

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they don't exist any more, really, because, I mean,

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people get seduced that are selling the things that they've always sworn

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would be left from generation to generation.

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A few collectors are prepared to talk frankly

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about selling the arts they collect.

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Dutch businessman Bert Kreuk made a fortune

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supplying onboard services to airlines.

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He owns a collection of around 750 works of art,

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including a handful of Impressionist masterpieces.

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What you see here is basically 20 years of collecting,

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because you start off with a certain quality of works,

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also to do with the fact that you don't have the money to buy at first.

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The top quality. And then you move up and try to improve and refine

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your collection and improve the quality.

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And that's what happens with this piece.

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I had quite a few Pissarro paintings before I bought this.

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But once you see a picture like that,

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you immediately know you have to buy it.

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This was made in 1897,

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when he was at his pinnacle of his ability to paint.

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And actually, you see that back then, they already had traffic jams,

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you know?

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He sells art as well as buying it,

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particularly when it comes to the young and emerging artists he collects.

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For most galleries, a good collector is a collector who doesn't sell and

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who keeps the art forever.

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But for me, a collection is not stagnant.

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I think selling is as much part

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of managing a collection as buying it.

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I'm simply not arrogant enough to say that every purchase I do is right.

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I make mistakes and I think I need to correct them.

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In the last three years, Bert has attempted to correct around 30 mistakes.

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Among them, some bought less than five years earlier.

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Some works sold for several times the price he had paid for them.

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You know, if you call me an art flipper because I'm open about selling,

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well, call me an art flipper.

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I don't care, honestly speaking, because, you know,

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I am in it for the passion.

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And if you don't want to sell me, don't sell me.

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I think people still have this notion that the art world is very romantic

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and that it's all about having a piece of art on the wall.

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It's a cut-throat business.

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Today, some collectors base their decisions on what to buy and when to

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sell on a sophisticated financial analysis of the market.

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And they might turn to a new kind of dealer, like Olyvia Kwok, for advice.

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Lots of people come to us

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to buy contemporary.

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They will actually use it as a financial instrument.

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They like to, as we call it, to play in that market,

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to have a bit of fun and to get a good return, a healthy return,

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I mean like a double-digit return.

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And for that to happen, timing is very important.

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And you have to do it quite fast.

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This is a fun thing that I bought.

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You know, exactly what it says on the tin, isn't it?

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Personally, I think happiness is very expensive!

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Before we buy something, well, actually,

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this sounds really bad but we do like almost like a stockpicking

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presentation to our client.

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And we'll give a reason. We'll say how many paintings this person has done.

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How many paintings per auction.

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And how many paintings have repeatedly been sold.

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And therefore, our verdict is that it's a safe thing for a period of time.

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Well, this is another sort of fun thing that I bought.

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I think that's what life is.

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The little platforms where you live, how you live, I guess.

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And constantly life has things thrown at you, like this dagger.

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You have to just find a way around.

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And hopefully don't have any mistakes.

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Lots of people compare investing in contemporary art as better than

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investing in properties.

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Because in properties, you have a lot of maintenance, and storage.

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In art, you don't.

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And you just leave it there and you pay the insurance and that's it.

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And when you want to sell it, obviously you would then market it

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and that's it, you know, so, nothing...too much fuss.

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My grandfather was a general in China.

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He was a very harsh man.

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I remember once he told me, he said, "Life is pain."

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But the earlier you understand that, the better you handle it.

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By now, you will understand that the markets for individual artists often

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rise and fall over a few years.

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But what about the entire market for the art of an era?

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For the taste of a generation?

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Can that crash?

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It doesn't happen very often.

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But the entire art market has tanked before.

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There's absolutely nothing different about the present contemporary art

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boom from four or five we've seen before.

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The second half of the 19th century witnessed the world's first

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contemporary art boom.

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At its apex was a canny British art dealer, William Agnew,

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selling to those new, wealthy industrialists in Britain and America.

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Agnew had spaces in London, Liverpool and Manchester,

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just as major galleries today have outposts in different cities across the world.

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He was the Gagosian of the art market

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in the 1880s and '90s.

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This was Sir William's office

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and this is part of the original decoration,

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the original fireplace.

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There is a marvellous description of him buying at a sale in Christie's,

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where he bought £50,000 worth of lots out of a total of

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£77,000 and there is a contemporary description,

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which says that he dominated the room

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and that every nod of his top hat,

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since everybody wore hats in the auction room in those days,

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every nod of his hat was worth another 1,000 Guineas.

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By the 1870s, boom turned to bust in the Victorian economy.

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Excepting one important luxury sector.

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In Victorian England, Victorian Paris and New York,

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1870 to 1895,

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trade slowed to a trickle,

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companies couldn't be trusted, banks were folding,

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money fled the stock exchanges.

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But in the art market, at Christie's,

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there were queues round the block

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because of the storming returns,

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the prices were spiralling into the sky.

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Lot number 90, same artist...

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Art alone delivered sudden, quick and dramatic price rises.

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Sold! 200...

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The largest boom that there has ever been in the art market,

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and that includes today,

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was between 1870 and 1914.

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This was a market focused on a particular kind of art,

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known in its day as salon painting.

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And here is its mausoleum.

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All the paintings in this room were collected on a two-year buying spree

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in the 1880s by a pharmaceuticals entrepreneur,

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Thomas Holloway.

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In the early years of the 20th century,

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the market in this kind of art collapsed.

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And there is little demand for most of these artists today.

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In 1862, this painting, by Edwin Longsden Long,

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made a record price at auction of over £6,500.

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At least £4,000,000 in today's money.

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But by 1905, you could buy a big Edwin Longsden Long for under £150.

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The real collapse came after '99, and taste changed in a big way,

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in favour of Impressionism, Van Gogh,

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and the new world that we now live in.

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Collectors were beginning to die and the new,

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younger generation had put its money into a different sort of art.

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That was how it came to an end.

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Yet, despite this artistic Armageddon, art dealers,

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collectors and their acolytes do not think that history will repeat itself.

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The whole asset class was repriced.

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It's never going back.

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I mean, the journalists who like to say, "Oh, art market bubble bursting,

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"blah, blah, blah..." That's old stuff.

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This stuff is never going back.

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Is the art market going to have a tough time?

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I think this year's going to be harder than it was last year

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and much harder than it was two years ago.

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Is the market going to drop significantly? No.

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I don't think it will collapse.

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I think that certain artists will go down, particularly the younger,

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untried ones, who have perhaps been speculated on...

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A Picasso painting has been a Picasso painting, painted by Picasso,

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is going to be there, it will always be there.

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Whether that painting is ended in Russia or in China or in England, it's still a Picasso painting.

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And Lot 66, Andy Warhol...

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Is all this optimism just a sales pitch?

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Lot number 12 is Lucien Freud.

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-Perhaps not.

-The Profit by Basquiat...

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The good news, my dear bankers,

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is that while we know that the art market can go south,

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it only seems to happen when a certain set of conditions arise -

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which have not yet arisen.

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But the way it works is that so long as the collectors are alive,

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the price stays high.

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Lot 82, the Damien Hirst.

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The Damien price will stay high for the next 30 years because those

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collectors have an interest in keeping the Damien Hirst currency strong.

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That seems to me to be how the living artist's magic works

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and how it delivers the financial return

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that in the past has created booms in living artists.

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Sold, the Warhol Flowers.

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Thank you, your number was?

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A bar of gold is a bar of gold is a bar of gold.

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This is all quite subjective.

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And whether or not it keeps its value will depend upon the whims of

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collectors, tens or twenties, years from now.

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And I think that that's problematic.

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And so we move on to Lot number 11, which is the wonderful Peter Doig.

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Cabin Essence, 93-94.

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And Lot 73.

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The second of tonight's abstract vectors.

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Works of art exist in a paradoxical place, where pork bellies do.

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In exactly the same place.

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In a kind of cartel of speculations.

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There's a degree to which you can tell yourself, when you're weeping,

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sobbing into your pillow, that it doesn't really matter.

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I think the problem is when you have things like our stuff and people want to buy it

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because they are somehow compelled morally.

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You know, "I love this because it's really kind of explaining these terrible things.

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"Here's 50 million quid."

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It's like, well, hang on, those two things are incompatible.

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So, you know, that's the paradox.

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I shall sell it then for 13,000,000.

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Thank you. 642...

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Finally, one last disclaimer.

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The makers of this programme cannot accept any responsibility if you do

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not maximise your profits by following these rules.

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If you do decide to sell part of your collection,

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as I did decide to sell some of my Warhols,

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it's never the right time.

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No sooner have you sold them and then there's an announcement that they've doubled.

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They never halve just after you've sold them. They only double just after you've sold them!

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