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OK. You just type "www dot amazon dot com". | 0:00:03 | 0:00:07 | |
That takes you to our website. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
The British do more of their | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
shopping online than any other nation. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
Last year, tens of millions of British customers used Amazon | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
to buy £4.5 billion worth of goods. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
It's the instant gratification part of it that is | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
so attractive to me and a little bit ominous. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
Amazon is accused of changing the book business from this... | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
Just have a read through a couple of pages, see what you think. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
..to this. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
Amazon's ambitions now stretch way beyond books... | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
We're about to leave for Afghanistan. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
-..into the world of media. -Introducing Amazon Fire TV. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
Its drive to cut prices puts the squeeze on competitors. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
It's actually designed, from the ground up, to be a shark, | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
like it's designed to dissolve and destroy other businesses. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
But Amazon is also creating new jobs in Britain. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
It gives us an opportunity to access a marketplace that we would | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
never otherwise be able to access. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
Start with the customer and work backwards. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
Amazon's amazing story, from start-up to global titan, | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
is also the story of its founder Jeff Bezos. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
He really is a tough boss. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
He has driven that company and drives those people very, very hard. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:27 | |
We ask what Amazon's ever-growing business is doing to our economy | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
and our lives. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
And we examine how Jeff Bezos' formula for success shapes | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
Amazon's culture and has made him such a happy billionaire. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:40 | |
HE LAUGHS LOUDLY | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
There aren't many places where Amazon doesn't reach these days. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
In fact, the more remote the spot, | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
the more difference it's made to people's lives. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:02 | |
Online retailing really opens up the world to us. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
You can't buy a rowing machine in John O'Groats, | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
but Fred Fermor's arrived the day after he ordered it on Amazon. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:14 | |
Although we live in quite a remote area, we still have the same choice | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
as someone walking down Oxford Street in London. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
Across town at the hotel, the darts team's shirts also | 0:02:22 | 0:02:27 | |
came from Amazon, ordered by the manager, Andrew Mowat. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
Before companies like Amazon or even the internet, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
it was a lot more difficult for us to get things here. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
We maybe had to do a 20 mile trip to Wick or Thurso, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
or even worse than that, a 120 mile trip to Inverness. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
John O'Groats has one shop. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
The locals still use it, but it's never going to have all | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
the things they can find when they're back home, looking online. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
What's a chap to do if he needs a fancy dress costume? | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
Ooh, yes! | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
Or even a special kind of mop for the family ferry business? | 0:03:01 | 0:03:06 | |
The convenience is irresistible, done at the click of a button, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
you can buy it and basically, it's here the next day. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
You don't have to live in John O'Groats to feel the lure of Amazon. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:21 | |
We asked teacher Melanie Collins to run an experiment with her | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
London class. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
Year Six, I'm going to write a word on the board and I want you to think | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
about the first thing that pops into your head - what does this word mean? | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
20 years ago, there was just one answer. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:40 | |
I'm going to show you two pictures up on the board | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
and you're going to put your counters underneath what you thought of first. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
OK. Mustafa, can you please come up | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
and count how many people thought of the river? | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
-Eight. -Eight people, OK. Thank you. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
The mighty river never really stood a chance. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
14 people, OK, have a seat, please. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
Most businesses would happily give their annual profits for that | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
level of customer awareness. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
Amazon's ability to get into our heads is | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
the product of an unique company culture. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
Its engineers in London are working on its growing film and TV service. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:24 | |
Scroll through that quickly. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
It's got a bit of information about each of the actors. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
Some of the other movies they were in. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
-Hey, guys. -Hey. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
The British business is run by Christopher North, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
an American who moved here ten years ago. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
Everyone's kept in tune with the ideas of founder Jeff Bezos | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
through a kind of "Amazon think" they're all expected to sign up to. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:49 | |
We have 14 leadership principles at Amazon | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
and these are a set of principles that describe to us | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
the characteristics we need to exhibit to be a successful Amazonian. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
And I think we've found that they are kind of glue that knits us together | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
as a company, even now today that we're 97,000 employees at Amazon. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
The principles are on the website for anyone to see | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
and if you work at Amazon, you'll never forget them. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:13 | |
It would be the equivalent of...how the Ten Commandments influenced | 0:05:13 | 0:05:18 | |
Christianity. They're not just words. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
You have to be able to embody these things on a day in | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
and day out basis, otherwise you just won't survive at Amazon. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:28 | |
Staff don't have to learn the leadership principles by heart, | 0:05:28 | 0:05:33 | |
but there's one idea that's drummed into them every day. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
Customer obsession is the single most | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
important thing to Amazon, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:45 | |
the thing we've focused on from the very beginning. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:49 | |
Amazon executives and Jeff Bezos in particular will tell you | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
until you cannot stand hearing it any longer that they start | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
with the customer and work backwards. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
Start with the customer and work backwards. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
I don't think you should make any bones about it. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
There's no socially wonderful thing about working | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
from the customer backwards. It's smart business. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
You only have to visit your local Royal Mail sorting office | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
to see the impact of online retail. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
E-mail has meant we're sending fewer letters, | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
but that's more than made up for by all the extra parcel deliveries. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:28 | |
Last year, Amazon alone sold an average of more | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
than £70 worth of goods to every man, woman and child in Britain. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:39 | |
Amazon account for a large amount of our traffic. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
The difference in volume is ginormous. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
Yeah, massive contributor to | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
the amount of traffic we pick up now. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
Amazon's business is good news for some, but bad for others. | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
We're a little low on stock at the moment. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:04 | |
Across Britain, | 0:07:04 | 0:07:05 | |
book shops have been closing at the rate of more than one a week. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
See you soon! I'll give you a call later, Mrs Carrington. OK. Bye-bye. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
In Banstead, Surrey, Linda Jones is ready to name the culprit. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:17 | |
I've actually had people coming in and taking | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
photos of books on their phones and looking and saying... | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
They'll look at the back and they will be there for some time | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
and they will leave and I know exactly what they're doing. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
They are going to Amazon to order that book | 0:07:29 | 0:07:33 | |
because they can get it a lot cheaper. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
Linda says Amazon's prices can make trading impossible for her. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:40 | |
For instance, David Walliams' new book, Demon Dentist, on Amazon, £5. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:46 | |
We have to retail it at £10.99, £12.99. We can't buy it for £5. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:52 | |
-< How much does it cost you to buy? -It costs us to buy £8.99. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
Amazon admits it sells some books at a loss. | 0:07:56 | 0:08:00 | |
I think you'd find across many retail businesses it's very | 0:08:00 | 0:08:04 | |
common for bestselling products to be sold at very low margins, | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
even sometimes at a loss, but ultimately, | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
we have to figure out how to make it all work. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
Linda needs to take £10,000 a month, just to break even. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
That hasn't been happening and for the past year, | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
she's been using her own savings to keep the shop open. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
'I love books and I love book shops and it's all well | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
'and good having that passion,' | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
but I just can't afford to keep putting money into the business. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
For Amazon's founder, book shops are just on the wrong side of history. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:38 | |
Complaining is not a strategy. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
Amazon is not happening to book-selling, | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
the future is happening to book-selling. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
Amazon didn't invent the idea of shopping from home. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
Mail order catalogues had offered it for decades. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
But this kind of thing started to feel distinctly low-tech | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
when a new vision appeared in the 1990s. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
Imagine a world where every word ever written, | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
every picture ever painted and every film ever shot could be | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
viewed instantly in your home via an information superhighway. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:13 | |
Ordinary domestic phone lines offered access to an exciting future. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
It all comes down to computers communicating. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:21 | |
And in fact, that's already happening on something called | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
the internet. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
The internet was already a hot topic in New York in the early '90s. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:38 | |
It had caught the attention of a young Jeff Bezos. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
The wake-up call was seeing web usage grow at 2,300% a year. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:47 | |
Back then, Bezos was a bright 20-something computer science graduate, | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
rising through the ranks of a Wall Street firm which | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
was pioneering computer-based trading. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
There was plenty of talk about what the internet might | 0:09:58 | 0:10:02 | |
mean for business. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
In 1994, there was this idea - | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
maybe the internet's going to be powerful enough that you can | 0:10:07 | 0:10:11 | |
use it to create a kind of intermediary between customers, | 0:10:11 | 0:10:15 | |
shoppers, and manufacturers. Well, that was a very vague idea, | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
but Jeff had this notion that maybe if you focused on one product | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
category, on the internet you can offer everything. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
The question was - what's the first best product to sell online? | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
I made a list of 20 different products and sort | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
of force ranked them according to several different criteria | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
and ultimately picked books. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
Bezos was already married to MacKenzie Tuttle | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
who he'd met at work. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
But their domestic routine was about to be disrupted. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:46 | |
He wanted to break away from the investment firm, | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
roll up his sleeves and build a business. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:55 | |
The Bezoses packed up their apartment and left New York behind. | 0:10:55 | 0:11:00 | |
He was in such a hurry that he hired a removal truck, | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
he told them to drive west and that he would get started | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
and call them in a couple of days and tell them | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
where exactly on the West Coast they should go. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
Once, young men were told to go west, in search of gold or land, | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
but in the '90s, they went west in search of geeks. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
Bill Gates' Microsoft dominated the new world of personal computers | 0:11:18 | 0:11:23 | |
from his hometown of Seattle, Washington. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
So there was plenty of tech talent around | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
and Bezos sent the removal truck there. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
Also heading to Seattle from California was an experienced | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
programmer, Shel Kaphan, Amazon's first employee. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
First we had to buy some computers and software. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:48 | |
We couldn't afford very big computers or very many computers. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
We did have to be frugal cos there was not a huge amount of investment. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:56 | |
The garage at Jeff and MacKenzie's rented house became the office. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:01 | |
Bezos insisted on getting desks made from doors to save money. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
It's become part of Amazon mythology. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
The original example of another of those leadership principles - | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
frugality. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
But employee number one always had his doubts about the desk doors. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:24 | |
If you ask the people building them, you'll learn that they were | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
actually more expensive than just buying a cheap desk. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
Looks frugal, but it isn't really frugal. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
I think frugality's in some ways a much misunderstood leadership principle. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:37 | |
Frugality doesn't mean cheapness, it doesn't mean penny-pinching. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
It means making efficient use of scarce resources | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
and I think with the door desk idea, | 0:12:43 | 0:12:44 | |
the idea that you would improvise a desk | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
out of the materials at hand, you also have the idea of a kind | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
of scrappiness, or a kind of making do with what you have to hand. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
After months of coding on the doors, Bezos' new business was launched. | 0:12:54 | 0:13:00 | |
Www dot amazon dot com. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
That takes you to our website. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
Amazon's eighth employee, Tod Nelson, had been | 0:13:07 | 0:13:11 | |
working as a waiter before he got the job that changed his life. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
They had actually started shipping books in Jeff's garage. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
Then they moved to this small warehouse. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
Tod started working, ordering and despatching books. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
He and his colleagues responded to a computer linked to Amazon's website. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:29 | |
They had a bell that whenever a customer had ordered a book, | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
there'd be a little ding and everyone would cheer, so you'd made another | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
sale, and within the first few days, it was - ding-ding-ding-ding-ding! | 0:13:36 | 0:13:42 | |
They had to turn it off because, you know, it was annoying. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
By listing any book that could be ordered from distributors, Bezos' | 0:13:45 | 0:13:49 | |
small business would claim the title "Earth's Biggest Bookstore". | 0:13:49 | 0:13:54 | |
Over some large number of years, I think | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
internet book-selling is going to become a very large business. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
At the end of each day, work in Amazon's offices stopped | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
and everyone, including Jeff and MacKenzie, went | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
down to the basement to help get all the orders into the last post. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
There was this feeling you just couldn't do enough. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:14 | |
I was working 12-16 hour days, working most weekends. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
I didn't take a vacation for the first two or three years. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
But it's what I wanted to do. I was excited by my work. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
It's the most fulfilling work I've ever done. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
That first tiny basement warehouse in Seattle is a world | 0:14:27 | 0:14:31 | |
away from what Amazon now calls its Fulfilment Centres. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:36 | |
With more than 100 million items for sale on the website, | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
keeping tabs on them across the network of warehouses is so complex | 0:14:39 | 0:14:43 | |
that only the central computer really knows where things are. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:48 | |
Amazon has such faith in it that any item can be stowed on any shelf. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:54 | |
The product is stored completely randomly around the building | 0:14:54 | 0:14:58 | |
and so the stower is allowed to pick any location that they want | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
to in order to put that product away. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
The random arrangement is actually efficient because it reduces | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
the chance of a worker picking the wrong item, | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
which might happen if similar items were stored side by side. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:15 | |
A customer will come onto the website, order the product, | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
and the computer system will decide the best fulfilment centre | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
in which to pick that product and we have pickers | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
and the computer system will send to their hand-held scanner | 0:15:26 | 0:15:30 | |
that order that says "go pick Downton Abbey Series Two" | 0:15:30 | 0:15:34 | |
and it will also tell them where that product is. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:38 | |
The ordering process is almost completely automated. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:44 | |
But only a human being can walk down an aisle | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
and tell the difference between an icing bag and a cuddly toy. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
They will scan the product and then the computer system knows that | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
product has moved from the shelf into the tote. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
Because the computer knows how big things are, | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
it even tells the packers what size box to use for each item. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
Then, only at the final stage, | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
the item is matched up with the customer's name and address. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
It goes on to our outbound dock and it will get put on to | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
one of our many carriers' vehicles for onward delivery. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
Back in John O'Groats, there's a new van load of online purchases. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:34 | |
-Hi. -Morning. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
Andrew, your costume's here. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
Perfect. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
Fred Fermor runs the ferry to Orkney. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
Out of season, there's time to get things shipshape. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
-Here's that mop you ordered. -Thanks, Fred. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
-I'll have a bottle of Red MacGregor, please. -No problem. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
And Andrew Mowat knows it's always easier to get the party started | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
with a Captain America costume. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
Bezos was picky about who joined Amazon. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
He originally interviewed everyone personally. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
James Marcus passed the test. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
He didn't overwhelm you in a sort of showbizzy titan of business way. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
But he had a lot of brain power and a lot of focus | 0:17:35 | 0:17:39 | |
and after ten or 15 minutes of talking to the guy, | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
a certain kind of magnetism came into play, which was not | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
traditional and was that much more persuasive, I think, because of it. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:51 | |
Amazon was soon too big for everyone to meet Bezos, but new | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
recruits were fired up in sessions about him and the company history. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:59 | |
In the initial training, you talk about things that Jeff | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
would like and things that Jeff wouldn't like. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
You learned his story. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
Driving out in the Sedan and being in the garage | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
and founding the company. People love a winner. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
And so, just being on that team felt like something. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:20 | |
It was the kind of job you could tell your future wife's | 0:18:20 | 0:18:24 | |
relatives about and they would be impressed. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
At Christmas, the office staff were expected to help pack books at the warehouse. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:32 | |
It gave them a rare insight into those much discussed customers. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
You would pick the weirdest things. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
There was a lot of porn, there was a lot of scientific literature, | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
and I gift-wrapped once a copy of Mein Kampf. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
Of course, I was hoping that whoever was sending it to someone | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
for a Christmas gift was sending it | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
as a kind of cautionary tale about man's inhumanity to man, | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
or see how far we can fall, but sadly, | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
the card that went inside the thing simply said "Merry Christmas". | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
By the late '90s, San Francisco was buzzing with dot com start-ups, | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
reinventing business. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
And office life. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
This is Nuskha. She's an old-timer here. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
Been here since May! | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
Companies like pets.com were famous for spending their investors' | 0:19:19 | 0:19:24 | |
money with no sign of profits. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
Amazon too was losing hundreds of millions, | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
while moving to ever bigger offices. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
But in the dot com boom, new rules applied. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
Wall Street gave companies a pass. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
They said, "OK, we don't care if you make money yet. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
"You're going to some day, but for now, just grow. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
"Take that money, reinvest it in servers and marketing, whatever. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
"Just grow until you hit the sky | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
"and we'll be there as loyal investors behind you." | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
Bezos and his staff think about Amazon's growth | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
as what they call the flywheel effect. It works like this. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
If a customer's pleased with their Amazon purchase, they buy more, | 0:20:00 | 0:20:04 | |
and tell their friends, so Amazon gets more traffic. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:08 | |
That means it can offer more products, at lower prices, | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
which in turn attracts more customers. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
The flywheel builds momentum and becomes unstoppable. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
It seemed at that point that | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
there was nothing that Amazon couldn't conquer. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
In 1997, Amazon floated on a rising stock market only two years | 0:20:23 | 0:20:28 | |
after it had opened for business. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
It was heady days for the internet, | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
and the stock price did nothing but go up, up, up. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
Amazon's hard-working staff had all been given stock options | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
when they joined. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:40 | |
One of the greatest absurdities at Amazon was that the reason | 0:20:41 | 0:20:45 | |
everyone was killing themselves was because of the possibility | 0:20:45 | 0:20:49 | |
that they would become hideously, unspeakably rich. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
At the same time, no-one ever talked about this. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
You know, it was very gauche to talk about it. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
Everyone had to pretend | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
as though it was some kind of communist state, that everyone | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
was just working because they just loved working crazy, crazy hard. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:08 | |
But the reality, of course, underlying everything, | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
is that there was this hope of some enormous payoff. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
And, for a while, it looked like that dream had come true. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
-Did you read the Times this morning? -Yes, I saw the Times this morning. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
"At one point on Friday, | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
"Amazon.com's total stock market value | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
"surged past 30 billion, | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
"making it worth more than a major industrial company, like Texaco." | 0:21:31 | 0:21:36 | |
According to my calculations, you yourself are worth | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
somewhere in the vicinity of 9 or 10 billion today. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
-I only say that because I've got a follow-up question. -OK. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
What's with the Honda? | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
This is a perfectly good car. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
The image of Jeff is one of a sort of brilliant, | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
strategic, financial mind, and a delighted child, you know. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:02 | |
And that laugh. I mean, really. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
Really. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
Jeff's laugh is memorable. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
You know, when you talk to him, if you're in a meeting with him, | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
it's the thing you emerge talking about. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
Oh! | 0:22:24 | 0:22:25 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
I loved the challenge of it when I was there, | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
especially at the beginning, and, frankly, I loved Jeff too. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
But working down the hallway from his laugh, after a while, | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
it can, you know, get to grate on one. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
-Thanks very much indeed. -Thank you. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
In 1997, the internet was still a novelty for British business. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:53 | |
'Botham's have set up what's called a website...' | 0:22:53 | 0:22:57 | |
Back then, the new technology was much hyped | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
but didn't always deliver. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
The web promised universal access to information, but, then, | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
in the early days it involved unplugging the telephone | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
to use your dialup modem, | 0:23:09 | 0:23:10 | |
and then having to wait many, many minutes before every page loaded. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
But it was still pretty exciting. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
DIALUP TONE | 0:23:16 | 0:23:17 | |
Most big retailers didn't even have a website, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
but there were already other online book-sellers competing with Amazon. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:24 | |
Simon Murdoch was running a British site called Bookpages | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
when he got a call from Seattle. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
Jeff Bezos got in touch and arranged to come to London. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
I think he talked to several businesses. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
He met us in a hotel in central London. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
Bezos said his staff in Seattle were already working | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
on a UK version of Amazon, | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
but Murdoch's book business created another possibility. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
The first discussion was, "We're coming here anyway. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:50 | |
"Would you like to be part of it, | 0:23:50 | 0:23:52 | |
"or would you like us to compete with you?" | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
-Quite aggressive? -Yes. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
A deal was done for Amazon to buy Murdoch's business, | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
and for Murdoch to become head of Amazon's UK operation. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:04 | |
Amazon.co.uk is going to revolutionise book-selling, | 0:24:04 | 0:24:08 | |
because we're going to make a very large number of books | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
available to people very easily. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:11 | |
Initially, people were pretty nervous about | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
online shopping, I think. The idea of putting your credit card details | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
into a little box on screen was worrying. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
Hello, Amazon.com. This is Deanne. How can I help you? | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
At first, Amazon set up call centres to take down the credit card | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
details of timid customers. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
But most soon got used to the online routine. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:33 | |
Amazon helped encourage people to trust the actual process | 0:24:33 | 0:24:37 | |
of just buying something online. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:39 | |
Satisfied customers were persuaded to move from books to toys, | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
CDs, videos and more, as Amazon expanded its range. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:51 | |
We're trying to build a place where people can come, to find | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
and discover anything - with a capital A - that they | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
-might want to buy online. -But any thing? -Anything. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
Amazon was becoming a giant retailer, | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
but Bezos decided it could be a marketplace at the same time. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:11 | |
That would be a way to spin Amazon's flywheel even faster. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
Bezos would get more value from both Amazon's website | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
and its warehouses | 0:25:22 | 0:25:23 | |
by offering outsiders the chance to sell their products | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
on the website and use the warehouses | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
to store and dispatch them. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
It's called Amazon Marketplace. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
The fundamental innovation was inviting third party sellers, | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
not only on to our site, but to actually compete with us | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
directly on the very detail page. That's been so successful | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
that today more than 40% of all the units | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
sold on Amazon worldwide are sold by third party sellers. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
And that's creating jobs, even in this Nottinghamshire village. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:59 | |
It's possible to make a living simply by spotting bargains | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
in supermarkets to sell on Amazon, | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
as Mark Reedman and Keith Whittle have discovered. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:13 | |
So, we've got a couple of dolls. We've not sold dolls before. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:18 | |
-How much was that, then? -4.99. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
-What do you reckon you can sell it for? -We're selling for 17. -Whoa. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
Yes, you really can comb your local shops to find cheap stock | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
to sell on Amazon Marketplace, if you know what you're looking for. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:35 | |
Boots, or Sainsbury's, or Tesco's, or Argos, | 0:26:35 | 0:26:39 | |
there are certain times of the year where they will do deals. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
It sounds easy, but like Amazon itself, this is a tech business. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:48 | |
They track prices using software. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
In August, they bought a load of Star Wars Mr Potatoheads | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
and have been watching their price ever since. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
It sort of dropped down at the beginning of the summer, | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
but as soon as we hit the November, Christmas period, | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
it's starting to rise, and will probably continue to rise. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
It's a bit like trading on the stock market. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
Mark and Keith store their goods until it's the right moment to sell. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
Sometimes it means we have to sit on stock for six months, | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
so we're investing our capital, | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
but with a longer term aim that we'll make a profit on that. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
Sometimes it's a bit of a lottery, but it normally pays off. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:30 | |
If you've got the space to keep hundreds of games, | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
gadgets and toys, Keith and Mark say you can earn your keep like this. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:38 | |
If you're looking at between £5-£7 a unit profit, | 0:27:38 | 0:27:43 | |
then you've only got to be turning over, say, 15, 20 units in a day, | 0:27:43 | 0:27:48 | |
and, over a week, over a month, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
over a year, that adds up to be quite a decent salary. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
That's about £100 profit a day, or about £37,000 a year, | 0:27:54 | 0:27:59 | |
as long as you're open for business seven days a week. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
We've been labelled as a nation of shopkeepers, | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
but, actually, Amazon's sort of taken that for us as small retailers, | 0:28:08 | 0:28:13 | |
into the 21st century, where we can actually all sell | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
our goods and our wares, but without the need of that physical premises. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:21 | |
'The internet has been the most hyped industry of the century, | 0:28:27 | 0:28:31 | |
'but now, as shares collapse, it could wreck the future for us all.' | 0:28:31 | 0:28:35 | |
The stock market couldn't rise for ever. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
At the start of the new century, nervous investors started to panic. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:46 | |
Well, all good parties come to an end. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
And so, bang, stocks would go from 50 to five, in a month. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:56 | |
And that was the end. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:58 | |
Amazon staff, who'd watched with amazement as the stock price rose, | 0:28:59 | 0:29:03 | |
now saw it lose 98% of its value. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:07 | |
I lost millions of dollars of paper worth. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
And that's the way it goes. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
You know, there's just no way around that. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
Only the very earliest joiners had enough share options to enjoy | 0:29:16 | 0:29:20 | |
the rewards that everyone had been hoping for. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
-Was it then that you actually didn't need to work again? -Yes. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:27 | |
Yeah, I retired when I was 37. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
For less fortunate staff, there was a harsh new reality. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:38 | |
Amazon.com this is Lance. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:40 | |
Instead of hiring, for the first time, | 0:29:40 | 0:29:43 | |
Bezos was forced to lay people off. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:45 | |
And he had to persuade those that remained that, | 0:29:45 | 0:29:47 | |
whatever Wall Street said, Amazon would continue to grow, | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
and would one day make money. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
Top executives from that time say that frankly there was | 0:29:53 | 0:29:56 | |
nobody inside Amazon who believed that this would one day be | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
a 50 billion, let alone 100 billion revenue company. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
But they also say that Jeff never blinked once. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
That he has ice water running through his veins, | 0:30:05 | 0:30:07 | |
and that he saw that internet shopping | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
is convenient, that prices can be lower when you centralise inventory. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
And he just refused to blink. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:15 | |
Alongside the customer-centric mantra, | 0:30:17 | 0:30:20 | |
there's a toughness in Amazon's corporate culture. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:23 | |
Leaders... | 0:30:24 | 0:30:26 | |
And... | 0:30:28 | 0:30:30 | |
Hm. Curious. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
He really is a tough boss. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:40 | |
He has driven that company and drives those people very hard. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:45 | |
And you either survive there because you buy into that culture, | 0:30:45 | 0:30:48 | |
and it's a culture that he has created, | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
or you leave because it's nothing you have any desire to be around. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:54 | |
Dave Cotter left Amazon after four years to set up his own business. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:58 | |
It's a social network for families, beginning with his own. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
Amazon can be a very difficult place to work. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
But I actually look back, super, super fondly | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
and revere the intellectual challenge that it provided. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
It still can be really hard on a day in, day out basis to have | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
kind of everything that you do or everything that you're surrounded by, | 0:31:17 | 0:31:23 | |
kind of, be open for attack. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
Nadia Shouraboura also left Amazon to launch a start-up, | 0:31:28 | 0:31:32 | |
bringing online technology to shops. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:34 | |
It could hardly be more intense than her old job. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
Amazon was really the way of my life. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
I lived at Amazon and I lived within Amazon. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
I was married at Amazon, | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
and every hour of my waking day I was thinking about Amazon. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:52 | |
Here's one kind of crisis that all Amazon executives dread - | 0:31:52 | 0:31:56 | |
Bezos gets a customer complaint. | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
He forwards it to the person responsible, with a single, | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
cryptic addition. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:04 | |
You get an e-mail message and there is just a question mark in it. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
I got one. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:08 | |
For me at the time it was just scary and terrifying | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
only because I hadn't been at Amazon very long. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:13 | |
So, immediate things - sweaty palms, panic, anxiety. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:17 | |
It's just drop everything, all hands on deck, we've got to address this. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:21 | |
What Jeff wants you to do is to go down, and not only fix it, | 0:32:21 | 0:32:25 | |
but fix it for ever. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:26 | |
Have a mechanism in place that that screw-up never, ever happens again. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:30 | |
Many companies might say this one customer had this one issue. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
Jeff takes a very different perspective, which is | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
maybe there's a way to improve the system. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
However long it takes, | 0:32:40 | 0:32:41 | |
you work away until that particular failure is impossible. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:45 | |
And then... | 0:32:45 | 0:32:46 | |
And then you report back. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:48 | |
And you get usually a smiley face after that, saying that, | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
yes, thank you. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:53 | |
Amazon survived the dot com crash - just - thanks to having borrowed | 0:32:56 | 0:33:01 | |
enough millions to stay afloat. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:03 | |
But Bezos always had ambitions way beyond mere survival. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:07 | |
The big ideas in business are often very obvious. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:12 | |
But it's very hard to maintain a firm grasp | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
of the obvious at all times. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:17 | |
In the mid 2000s, Bezos set the company on a new path, | 0:33:17 | 0:33:21 | |
using its existing assets to move beyond retail. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:25 | |
Just as it had offered warehouse space to outside sellers, | 0:33:27 | 0:33:31 | |
Amazon created a huge new business called Amazon Web Services | 0:33:31 | 0:33:35 | |
which rents out its computing power to outsiders. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:39 | |
The company also drew on its techy expertise to create an e-reader, | 0:33:39 | 0:33:43 | |
Amazon's first consumer product. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
Selling it direct to its customers made the flywheel spin even faster. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:51 | |
The e-reader was created | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
in a secretive Amazon lab in Silicon Valley. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
Amazon's new direction was a response to the success | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
of Apple's iTunes, played through its iPod. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:07 | |
Jeff had seen what had happened with music. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
We were buying our ipods, they were very pretty, but then what we were | 0:34:10 | 0:34:14 | |
really buying was the music that went on top of them, the software. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
And Jeff said, "Well, I'm not going to let that happen to books. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
"Books is our core business, it's central to us. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
"I'm going to get ahead of that." | 0:34:23 | 0:34:25 | |
And that's why he introduced the Kindle. so we would begin to buy | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
our books, and now our movies, and our other content, on the Kindle. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:32 | |
The first version of the Kindle was launched in 2007, | 0:34:32 | 0:34:36 | |
looking a bit like the poor relation of an Apple product. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
But two years later, there was a new model that Bezos went out to sell. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:45 | |
Very few technologies have a lifetime of 500 years. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:49 | |
The physical book has had a great run. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:51 | |
-So that's it? Death of the physical book? -I think | 0:34:51 | 0:34:53 | |
there will always be books. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:55 | |
It's not death, but if you look over some period of time, | 0:34:55 | 0:34:58 | |
it makes sense for it to continue to evolve. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:02 | |
So, if you believe, as I do, that long form reading is important, | 0:35:02 | 0:35:06 | |
then a device like Kindle | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
is important because it makes that easier. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:11 | |
The Kindle doesn't only let Amazon sell books electronically. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:15 | |
It's created a publishing business, too, | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
because anyone can use it to upload their own writing. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
It's really democratising the ability to start and grow a business | 0:35:24 | 0:35:29 | |
as an author, turning authors, in a sense, into entrepreneurs. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:33 | |
This couple have done well | 0:35:34 | 0:35:36 | |
from Amazon's new self-publishing business. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
Nick Spalding worked as a press officer for the police. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:41 | |
But he'd always wanted to be a writer. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
Three years ago, he gave himself a final chance. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
I set myself the challenge to see | 0:35:47 | 0:35:49 | |
if I could write an entire book in one sitting. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
So I sat down on a Saturday morning and just started writing. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:58 | |
I had no idea how long I'd go for. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:00 | |
But I managed 30 hours | 0:36:00 | 0:36:02 | |
and had 50,000 words plus written at the end of it. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:06 | |
After a bit of editing, Nick's book was ready for the world. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:13 | |
He uploaded it to Amazon, for sale to Kindle owners. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:17 | |
If you've got all your ducks in a row before you sit down to do it, | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
it takes ten minutes. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:22 | |
You need to give your book a price. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
If you keep it cheap, you'll sell more | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
and earn 35% of the sales price. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:29 | |
At some higher prices, you'll get a generous 70% in royalties. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:34 | |
Click, Save, and Publish, and that is the end of the process. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
Initially, I was a little bit sceptical. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
Not that I doubted his writing ability but, as it was a new idea, | 0:36:41 | 0:36:45 | |
I just wasn't sure how it was going to work. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
You sell one, you sell two, and it's a thrill. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
Somebody you've never met, somebody you'll never meet, | 0:36:51 | 0:36:53 | |
has bought your book and is potentially reading it right now. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:57 | |
He would spend a lot of time in the evening | 0:36:57 | 0:36:59 | |
checking his sales figures on the laptop. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
And I would be there, sort of rolling my eyes, | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
as he went, "I've sold another copy. I've sold another copy." | 0:37:05 | 0:37:08 | |
Gemma had to change her tune | 0:37:08 | 0:37:10 | |
when Nick followed up his first effort with a bawdy comic novel. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:14 | |
"Annika was a goddess, a blonde perfect, golden-skinned | 0:37:14 | 0:37:18 | |
"creature of myth. Or Sweden as they apparently call it these days." | 0:37:18 | 0:37:23 | |
It started to sell, and it started to sell more and more. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:27 | |
"Sean thought I'd be the perfect candidate, | 0:37:27 | 0:37:29 | |
"given that he knew I was horrifically single..." | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
For it to go to 1,000 over the course of an afternoon | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
was head-spinning, to be quite honest with you. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
That year, Nick sold 430,000 books on Amazon. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:45 | |
And now he's sold the books to a traditional publisher - | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
-cashing in a second time. -Um, yes, it was a six figure advance, | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
which is a lot for a first-time author. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:55 | |
Nick resigned from the police to write full-time. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
He and Gemma have already made use of his new earnings. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:02 | |
I love Amazon. They've bought me a house. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
If you look at the best-seller list, typically you'll find | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
nowadays that about one in five of our Kindle bestselling books | 0:38:13 | 0:38:17 | |
are self-published books via the Kindle Direct Publishing platform. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
That's a worry for these publishers, gathering in London | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
to discuss the future of their business. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:28 | |
Amazon are undoubtedly the most important player in | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
the book world today, whether e-books or print books. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:37 | |
They really are the central platform around which the whole | 0:38:37 | 0:38:40 | |
publishing industry is operating these days. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:44 | |
There's no shortage of speakers to offer | 0:38:44 | 0:38:46 | |
views on the future of the business. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:48 | |
But none from Amazon itself. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:50 | |
Amazon is notoriously secretive. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
We'd like to have Amazon speakers here. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:56 | |
But the way they operate, | 0:38:56 | 0:38:58 | |
they tend to not want to do things as part of an industry conversation | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
or as part of a dialogue, which I think is a shame. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
Despite the threat from self publishing, | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
whether they like it or not, for many of these publishers, | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
Amazon remains their top sales channel. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
They're torn between gratitude and fear. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:16 | |
The general feeling is that it is terrifying | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
and wonderful in equal measure. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
There's no escaping the fact that Amazon is a dominant force. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
And monopoly is never good for business, | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
and certainly never good for the consumer. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:30 | |
They're not in business to support publishers. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:33 | |
They're in business to make Amazon as successful as possible. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:35 | |
And some of the things that they do are contrary to the things | 0:39:35 | 0:39:39 | |
we would like. So you fight back. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:41 | |
And that's what I'm doing with HarperCollins. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:43 | |
And I think we are doing, as a business, very well. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
And, you know, bring it on. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:48 | |
There's plenty of fighting talk to keep the spirits up. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:53 | |
We are an industry that has survived hundreds of years. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:57 | |
We are going to be here in hundreds of years. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:01 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:40:01 | 0:40:03 | |
But Amazon, and its founder Jeff Bezos, | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
are never far from people's minds. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
Publishers think about Jeff Bezos | 0:40:08 | 0:40:10 | |
sort of like how they might think about God - | 0:40:10 | 0:40:13 | |
as a kind of very distant, inaccessible figure, | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
who is all-powerful and all-knowing. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:18 | |
But God loves us. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
Yes, but God is vengeful. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:22 | |
The Amazon universe keeps on expanding. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
The new Kindles still download books. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
'Let's rehearse, huh?' | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
They also play Amazon's new TV and film productions. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
Action! | 0:40:35 | 0:40:36 | |
There's a new set-top box, to watch them on TV. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:40 | |
We've packed in loads of entertainment. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:42 | |
Or play Amazon games. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:44 | |
ROARING | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
And now, in some American cities, there are Amazon grocery deliveries | 0:40:48 | 0:40:52 | |
from vans advertising Amazon productions. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:56 | |
'With Amazon Prime, you get something truly amazing...' | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
And there's Amazon Prime, a subscription service for | 0:40:59 | 0:41:02 | |
free delivery which cross-promotes other Amazon businesses. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:06 | |
'You'll get access to the Kindle Owners' Lending Library | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
'where Amazon Prime members can borrow bestselling books for free.' | 0:41:09 | 0:41:12 | |
DOORBELL RINGS | 0:41:18 | 0:41:19 | |
The Carelli family in Seattle live the complete Amazon lifestyle. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:23 | |
All right, thank you. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
My parents use always use it for groceries and stuff, and sometimes, | 0:41:25 | 0:41:30 | |
if we're out of snacks for school, we ask, "Mom, did you order Amazon?" | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
And she's always, "Yep, it's on its way." | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
They're fed, entertained and provided with literature, | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
toys and almost anything they might want to buy, all by one company. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:43 | |
-Mum, who's this for? -Everybody. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
With our hectic schedules and the kids' different activities, | 0:41:49 | 0:41:53 | |
we always need things right away, kind of, on-demand shopping, | 0:41:53 | 0:41:56 | |
it's just been a really good service for us. | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
The Carellis are living proof of the flywheel effect. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
Every Amazon service they use increases their use of the others. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:07 | |
I have to say that Amazon Fresh, because I liked it so much, | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
it made me want to use Amazon.com even more. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:14 | |
And the family's media consumption centres | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
on their membership of Amazon Prime. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
You can watch movies if you're a Prime member, | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
stream it to your devices, and also if you have a Kindle, | 0:42:22 | 0:42:26 | |
you can borrow books if you have a Prime membership. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:28 | |
You don't have to pay. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
-Do you have Kindles? -We do, we have four. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
Well, there's different types of Kindles, | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
like basic Kindle, a Kindle Fire, which is basically like a mini-iPad. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:41 | |
For the Amazon generation, visiting shops is just a waste of time. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:45 | |
It's a pain in the neck. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
You just go into a grocery store and you have to look for everything. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
On Amazon you just search it up with the press of a button. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
It's easier. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:55 | |
Jeff Bezos isn't finished yet. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:59 | |
Let me show you something. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:00 | |
He recently revealed something on American TV that caught | 0:43:00 | 0:43:03 | |
the imagination of the world. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:05 | |
These are effectively drones, | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
but there's no reason they can't be used as delivery vehicles. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
Take a look up here so I can show you how it works. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:13 | |
-We're talking about delivery here? -We're talking about delivery, | 0:43:13 | 0:43:16 | |
so there's an item going into the vehicle. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:19 | |
I know this looks like science fiction. It's not. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:24 | |
Wow! | 0:43:24 | 0:43:26 | |
Amazon isn't claiming its drones will be operating any time soon. | 0:43:30 | 0:43:34 | |
But its eye-catching video just happened to be released | 0:43:34 | 0:43:37 | |
ahead of Amazon's peak pre-Christmas sales period. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:41 | |
Of course this is a completely impractical way of actually | 0:43:43 | 0:43:46 | |
delivering products but it meant that everyone was talking about | 0:43:46 | 0:43:49 | |
Amazon and so people would go to the Amazon website and then buy stuff. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:52 | |
It's only 20 years since Amazon sold its first book. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:57 | |
Today, the company's valued at 170 billion | 0:43:57 | 0:44:01 | |
with an empire that caters for more and more of its customers' needs. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:05 | |
But some of its early staff think it's getting too powerful. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:09 | |
They're going to own the book, they're going to own the | 0:44:09 | 0:44:11 | |
information that goes in the book, they're going to own the shipping. | 0:44:11 | 0:44:15 | |
They can't own it all, you know. | 0:44:15 | 0:44:16 | |
So, I have mixed feelings sometimes about Amazon. | 0:44:16 | 0:44:19 | |
Sometimes I feel like, surely there are consumer items | 0:44:21 | 0:44:25 | |
that I should simply go downstairs and buy from the store | 0:44:25 | 0:44:28 | |
around the corner. | 0:44:28 | 0:44:30 | |
And not do the easy thing which is find the laundry bags on Amazon | 0:44:30 | 0:44:33 | |
and hit One Click. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:35 | |
You know, there's an element of guilt in there. | 0:44:35 | 0:44:39 | |
Do you think you're turning us into lazy | 0:44:39 | 0:44:41 | |
and perhaps slightly guilty consumers? | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
No, I don't think so at all. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:45 | |
I think that anything we can do to make consumers' lives easier, | 0:44:45 | 0:44:49 | |
including the shopping they need to do, is giving time | 0:44:49 | 0:44:52 | |
and money back to consumers they can spend doing something else. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:55 | |
You can't actually have the company that Amazon is, | 0:44:55 | 0:45:00 | |
and have it care about what it's doing to the ecosystem. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:03 | |
Because it's actually designed from the ground up to be a shark. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:06 | |
Like, it's designed to dissolve and destroy other businesses | 0:45:06 | 0:45:11 | |
by, like, undercutting them. | 0:45:11 | 0:45:13 | |
Whether because of how it works, or because of its sheer scale, | 0:45:18 | 0:45:22 | |
Amazon is increasingly on the radar of politicians and regulators, | 0:45:22 | 0:45:26 | |
especially in France. | 0:45:26 | 0:45:28 | |
For decades, French law has stopped books being discounted | 0:45:28 | 0:45:32 | |
by more than 5%, and that applies to Amazon too. | 0:45:32 | 0:45:35 | |
The novelist Aurelie Filippetti | 0:45:38 | 0:45:40 | |
has a second life as France's Minister of Culture, | 0:45:40 | 0:45:44 | |
with a particular passion for protecting the nation's bookshops. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:47 | |
Government and opposition are united in believing the existing | 0:46:09 | 0:46:13 | |
restriction on book discounting isn't enough to restrain Amazon. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:16 | |
Now a new law will also restrict | 0:46:22 | 0:46:24 | |
Amazon's free postage and packing offers. | 0:46:24 | 0:46:28 | |
But nobody in this Paris book shop seemed to mind. | 0:46:28 | 0:46:31 | |
The minister accuses Amazon of trying to eliminate competition | 0:46:49 | 0:46:52 | |
in the book business. | 0:46:52 | 0:46:54 | |
No, I certainly wouldn't accept that charge. | 0:47:07 | 0:47:09 | |
I don't think we're trying to eliminate the competition. | 0:47:09 | 0:47:12 | |
I think that UK customers, if I focus on the UK, which I know best, | 0:47:12 | 0:47:16 | |
have access to a lot of different choices | 0:47:16 | 0:47:19 | |
and price is one dimension on which retailers compete. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:22 | |
But books are only one industry which has complaints about Amazon. | 0:47:25 | 0:47:29 | |
Mark Constantine's Lush shops sell soap and other products the company | 0:47:36 | 0:47:40 | |
invents and manufactures from its headquarters in Poole, Dorset. | 0:47:40 | 0:47:44 | |
Here's a typical Honey I Washed the Kids. | 0:47:46 | 0:47:50 | |
You can cut this, have whatever size you like. | 0:47:50 | 0:47:53 | |
Made with English honey. Beautiful smell. | 0:47:53 | 0:47:56 | |
There are no Lush products on Amazon.co.uk | 0:47:59 | 0:48:02 | |
because Lush decided it wanted to control | 0:48:02 | 0:48:05 | |
all aspects of its retailing. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:07 | |
What upset Constantine | 0:48:08 | 0:48:09 | |
was what happened when customers tried to find them. | 0:48:09 | 0:48:13 | |
When you type in "Lush" inside Amazon, | 0:48:13 | 0:48:16 | |
you're then taken to products from a competitor, | 0:48:16 | 0:48:19 | |
so similar products to our own, but they are not ours. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:23 | |
Constantine was so incensed he took Amazon to court. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:27 | |
They have traded off our name. They have then damaged our reputation. | 0:48:27 | 0:48:30 | |
And then we lose business because the customer thinks | 0:48:30 | 0:48:33 | |
that we are not providing the quality that they expect from us. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:36 | |
Lush won its case. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:39 | |
Amazon declined to comment but says it intends to appeal. | 0:48:39 | 0:48:43 | |
But Constantine has a bigger objection to Amazon. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:46 | |
While Lush employs people | 0:48:46 | 0:48:48 | |
in its British factories and high street shops, | 0:48:48 | 0:48:50 | |
and pays corporate tax to the British government, | 0:48:50 | 0:48:53 | |
Amazon's UK operations pay a lower rate of corporate tax | 0:48:53 | 0:48:57 | |
through an Amazon subsidiary based in Luxembourg. | 0:48:57 | 0:49:00 | |
It's saying to society, "Here's a marketplace, | 0:49:00 | 0:49:03 | |
"but we're not going to make a contribution to you financially, | 0:49:03 | 0:49:07 | |
"unlike other marketplaces like the high street. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:11 | |
"We're going to reconfigure that and this is our business model." | 0:49:11 | 0:49:15 | |
So I think that's a fundamental attack on society. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:19 | |
The choice of having a single European headquarters | 0:49:19 | 0:49:22 | |
has nothing to do with tax or anything else. | 0:49:22 | 0:49:24 | |
It's simply the only way we could operate | 0:49:24 | 0:49:26 | |
a business of this complexity and scale. | 0:49:26 | 0:49:28 | |
For the choice to be in Luxembourg, tax was one consideration. | 0:49:28 | 0:49:31 | |
The French are also concerned about Amazon's tax arrangements. | 0:49:33 | 0:49:37 | |
What we've said very consistently is that we pay all of the taxes we are | 0:49:56 | 0:50:00 | |
obligated to pay everywhere in the world and we will always do so. | 0:50:00 | 0:50:05 | |
However people may feel in Europe, | 0:50:05 | 0:50:07 | |
back in Seattle, Amazon's tax affairs hardly raise an eyebrow. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:11 | |
In the United States, | 0:50:12 | 0:50:13 | |
tax avoidance is generally applauded. | 0:50:13 | 0:50:17 | |
You know, this is a country that happened to throw a whole | 0:50:17 | 0:50:20 | |
bunch of tea into the Boston harbour when the British wanted to tax them | 0:50:20 | 0:50:25 | |
on something that they thought was unfair. | 0:50:25 | 0:50:27 | |
And, so, it is not surprising at all | 0:50:27 | 0:50:29 | |
to, I think, most people who follow Amazon, | 0:50:29 | 0:50:32 | |
that it is doing what it can to pay as little in taxes as possible, | 0:50:32 | 0:50:36 | |
both in the US and abroad. | 0:50:36 | 0:50:38 | |
For a successful business, Amazon has one unusual feature. | 0:50:40 | 0:50:44 | |
It doesn't actually make money. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:46 | |
BEZOS LAUGHS | 0:50:46 | 0:50:48 | |
Well, we're a famously unprofitable company. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:50 | |
Since its founding, Amazon's sales have grown spectacularly. | 0:50:52 | 0:50:56 | |
But its profits have been minimal. | 0:50:59 | 0:51:02 | |
Bezos says that's deliberate | 0:51:03 | 0:51:05 | |
because he's still investing in new warehouses and new businesses. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:09 | |
It's very hard to beat a non-profit business. | 0:51:11 | 0:51:14 | |
Other companies have to make a profit or their investors will be angry. | 0:51:14 | 0:51:18 | |
Erm, Jeff has successfully made people want to support | 0:51:18 | 0:51:21 | |
a company that doesn't need to make a profit, | 0:51:21 | 0:51:24 | |
and that's an incredible business advantage. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:28 | |
However well Amazon's persuaded the markets | 0:51:28 | 0:51:30 | |
it doesn't need to make profits | 0:51:30 | 0:51:32 | |
or governments that it doesn't owe more taxes, | 0:51:32 | 0:51:35 | |
the company insists it's still a good corporate citizen. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:39 | |
We've collected and remitted more than a billion pounds of VAT | 0:51:39 | 0:51:42 | |
on behalf of the exchequer, we have purchased many billions of pounds | 0:51:42 | 0:51:46 | |
of products from UK suppliers, we've spent over a billion pounds | 0:51:46 | 0:51:49 | |
in the past five years just on the delivery companies who do | 0:51:49 | 0:51:52 | |
the last mile delivery, and we've created many thousands of jobs. | 0:51:52 | 0:51:56 | |
There are new jobs in this warehouse, | 0:52:00 | 0:52:02 | |
which only exists because of Amazon. | 0:52:02 | 0:52:04 | |
AwesomeBooks was started in a spare room in Reading just seven years ago | 0:52:08 | 0:52:13 | |
by Mubin Ahmed and his brother. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:15 | |
For us it was really just getting the supply, | 0:52:16 | 0:52:18 | |
and almost, Amazon could take care of the marketing and everything | 0:52:18 | 0:52:21 | |
that would attract the sales that we needed. | 0:52:21 | 0:52:25 | |
They get books from libraries, charities, publishers, | 0:52:25 | 0:52:28 | |
anyone who wants to get rid of large numbers. | 0:52:28 | 0:52:31 | |
The company's software tells its staff | 0:52:31 | 0:52:33 | |
whether each book is worth listing on Amazon, | 0:52:33 | 0:52:36 | |
keeping to sell elsewhere, or can only be thrown away. | 0:52:36 | 0:52:39 | |
Awesome processes 18 million books a year, and sells around | 0:52:41 | 0:52:45 | |
five million to individual buyers, with Amazon the dominant outlet. | 0:52:45 | 0:52:50 | |
Ultimately, we wouldn't exist without Amazon. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:55 | |
And, so, our profits are their profits in a way, | 0:52:55 | 0:52:58 | |
and it's only fair that we have that symbiotic relationship | 0:52:58 | 0:53:01 | |
where, as we grow, they grow. | 0:53:01 | 0:53:04 | |
200 new jobs have been created here. | 0:53:04 | 0:53:06 | |
Mubin has adopted Amazon's customer-centric ideas. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:10 | |
At the end of the day, | 0:53:11 | 0:53:12 | |
the customer has dictated that online is more convenient, | 0:53:12 | 0:53:16 | |
and the price points are better for them, | 0:53:16 | 0:53:18 | |
and so the market has to adjust. | 0:53:18 | 0:53:20 | |
That adjustment has created losers as well as winners. | 0:53:30 | 0:53:34 | |
Your friendly local shopkeeper may feel the efficiency of online retail | 0:53:34 | 0:53:39 | |
comes with a high price in terms of our relationships. | 0:53:39 | 0:53:43 | |
We will become more insular as a society. | 0:53:43 | 0:53:46 | |
We will sit at home in our rooms and we will type in what we need. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:51 | |
We won't talk to anybody, we won't communicate, | 0:53:51 | 0:53:55 | |
our communities will become smaller. | 0:53:55 | 0:53:58 | |
And we won't see people. And I don't want that. | 0:53:58 | 0:54:01 | |
-Take care. -Thank you. -Bye-bye, now. -Thanks, bye-bye. -Bye, Jack. | 0:54:01 | 0:54:05 | |
Linda decided she had to stop using her own money to support | 0:54:05 | 0:54:09 | |
the business, and the book shop has now closed. | 0:54:09 | 0:54:12 | |
Is it in Amazon's interest that book shops go out of business? | 0:54:12 | 0:54:15 | |
No, I don't... No, I don't think so. | 0:54:15 | 0:54:17 | |
I think that Amazon does best in an environment where there's | 0:54:17 | 0:54:20 | |
a lot of thriving competition. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:22 | |
We're a company that appreciates competition | 0:54:22 | 0:54:25 | |
and it challenges us to do even better. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:27 | |
Can anything stop Amazon? | 0:54:29 | 0:54:32 | |
Well, competition between online and the high street may be taking | 0:54:32 | 0:54:36 | |
a new turn that could leave Amazon playing catch-up. | 0:54:36 | 0:54:39 | |
It's to do with Smartphones. | 0:54:39 | 0:54:41 | |
At the moment people go into shops | 0:54:41 | 0:54:43 | |
and they can check prices on their app, | 0:54:43 | 0:54:45 | |
check it on Amazon, find it cheaper and buy it. | 0:54:45 | 0:54:47 | |
So try something on in the shop but then buy it through a competitor. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:51 | |
And I think that retailers are waking up to this fact | 0:54:51 | 0:54:54 | |
and trying to create better experiences in the store. | 0:54:54 | 0:54:57 | |
In Silicon Valley, eBay believes we're about to witness | 0:55:00 | 0:55:04 | |
a blurring of on and offline shopping. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:07 | |
It wants to partner with traditional retailers | 0:55:09 | 0:55:11 | |
and has a whole demo area to show what's possible. | 0:55:11 | 0:55:15 | |
So Lisa clicks on these shoes, loves them, | 0:55:15 | 0:55:17 | |
looks at some of the photos, says, "You know what? | 0:55:17 | 0:55:20 | |
I'm going to get these, "they're right down the street." | 0:55:20 | 0:55:22 | |
This idea is click and collect, with a new personal touch. | 0:55:22 | 0:55:26 | |
And she notices she can check in automatically | 0:55:26 | 0:55:29 | |
when she gets to the store. | 0:55:29 | 0:55:31 | |
Fantastic. So she places the order. | 0:55:31 | 0:55:33 | |
And she knows when she then walks into the store, | 0:55:33 | 0:55:35 | |
the store assistant's going to say "Hey, Lisa, welcome to the store, | 0:55:35 | 0:55:39 | |
"we've got your pair of shoes ready." | 0:55:39 | 0:55:40 | |
We can do things with technology in the physical store | 0:55:40 | 0:55:43 | |
to make people understand, find and discover | 0:55:43 | 0:55:46 | |
and then purchase product in a far better way. | 0:55:46 | 0:55:49 | |
Some of these ideas are already out there, such as giant touch screens | 0:55:49 | 0:55:53 | |
to encourage customers to buy online even when they're out shopping. | 0:55:53 | 0:55:57 | |
Think Minority Report, right? The movie. | 0:55:57 | 0:56:00 | |
This is the possibility, right, of sort of... | 0:56:00 | 0:56:02 | |
You take these vertical surfaces and turn them into engagement, | 0:56:02 | 0:56:05 | |
where the consumers can actually interact. | 0:56:05 | 0:56:08 | |
And according to eBay, | 0:56:09 | 0:56:11 | |
Amazon's business model may not be as efficient as it looks today. | 0:56:11 | 0:56:16 | |
Having your own Fulfilment Centres, and many of them, is one way to go. | 0:56:16 | 0:56:20 | |
It's expensive. It makes you become a physical logistics company. | 0:56:20 | 0:56:25 | |
eBay's vision reminds us | 0:56:25 | 0:56:27 | |
that old-fashioned shops weren't actually such a bad idea after all. | 0:56:27 | 0:56:32 | |
Guess what? They have product sitting there. | 0:56:32 | 0:56:35 | |
So why then build another warehouse that's all around those? | 0:56:35 | 0:56:38 | |
Yet another place for trucks to show up and drop product | 0:56:38 | 0:56:40 | |
and that kind of thing, and instead take the inventory that's already | 0:56:40 | 0:56:43 | |
moved close to that consumer and get it to them right from that point. | 0:56:43 | 0:56:47 | |
Anyone trying to challenge Amazon will find its business is protected | 0:56:51 | 0:56:55 | |
by its massive investment in technology, | 0:56:55 | 0:56:57 | |
especially as it expands into media and tech services. | 0:56:57 | 0:57:01 | |
Today it's taking on much fiercer competition than shops. | 0:57:01 | 0:57:05 | |
In reality Amazon is competing with | 0:57:06 | 0:57:08 | |
Netflix and Facebook | 0:57:08 | 0:57:11 | |
and Apple and Google. | 0:57:11 | 0:57:13 | |
And those are the companies that have the ability to undermine | 0:57:13 | 0:57:17 | |
what Amazon has built all over those years. | 0:57:17 | 0:57:19 | |
I think the next ten years are going to be fun to watch | 0:57:19 | 0:57:22 | |
as all these little battles take place to see who's going to win. | 0:57:22 | 0:57:26 | |
Whatever happens, Jeff and MacKenzie have done OK. | 0:57:28 | 0:57:31 | |
He's now worth 27 billion according to Forbes Magazine. | 0:57:31 | 0:57:36 | |
She's become a novelist. | 0:57:36 | 0:57:38 | |
And he's bought a prestigious newspaper, the Washington Post. | 0:57:40 | 0:57:44 | |
Four, three, two one, ignition. | 0:57:45 | 0:57:49 | |
Oh, and he's started his own rocket company, Blue Origin, | 0:57:52 | 0:57:55 | |
to bring space travel to the masses. | 0:57:55 | 0:57:57 | |
Maybe one day, it'll deliver Amazon packages to the moon. | 0:57:59 | 0:58:03 | |
At this moment in time, boy, it looks like Amazon is | 0:58:03 | 0:58:06 | |
hitting on every cylinder. | 0:58:06 | 0:58:08 | |
But it is a moment in time, and I think it is entirely possible | 0:58:08 | 0:58:11 | |
as we go two years, five years down the road, things will change. | 0:58:11 | 0:58:15 | |
-Amazon will be disrupted one day. -And you worry about that? | 0:58:15 | 0:58:18 | |
I don't worry about it cos I know it's inevitable. | 0:58:18 | 0:58:21 | |
Companies come and go. | 0:58:21 | 0:58:22 | |
And the companies that are the shiniest | 0:58:22 | 0:58:25 | |
and most important of any era, | 0:58:25 | 0:58:27 | |
you wait a few decades and they're gone. | 0:58:27 | 0:58:29 | |
And your job is to make sure that you delay that date? | 0:58:29 | 0:58:33 | |
I would love for it to be after I'm dead. | 0:58:33 | 0:58:35 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:58:35 | 0:58:37 | |
The Open University delves further into how | 0:58:40 | 0:58:43 | |
businesses like Amazon continue to boom. | 0:58:43 | 0:58:45 | |
To discover more, go to... | 0:58:45 | 0:58:47 | |
..and follow the links to the Open University, | 0:58:50 | 0:58:52 | |
where you can also take part in an online survey. | 0:58:52 | 0:58:55 |