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This programme contains some strong language | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
For more than 160 years, the floor of the Chicago Board of Trade, | 0:00:05 | 0:00:09 | |
the world's biggest commodities market, | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
has set the scene for traders to win or lose a fortune in an instant. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
'What I can make on a good day could be tens of thousands of dollars. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:22 | |
'I could also lose tens of thousands of dollars and I've done both.' | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
TRADERS SHOUT | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
'The market has a way of testing your limits. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
'In the middle of June I've lost my year,' | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
I've literally lost my year, what I'd worked six months for, in a day. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:37 | |
-What?! They're ten bid. -Shit, not any more! | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
But the traders' world is changing. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
Now, the vast majority of global transactions are electronic and | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
the markets have grown far bigger and more complex than ever before. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:52 | |
We do over 100 billion of business a day across the whole world. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:57 | |
We will be sending out, at any point in time, | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
more than a million quotes. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
One to two billion! | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
There is no way that a human being can process that. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
But whether traders are competing face-to-face or against the screens, | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
to succeed in one of the best-paid professions in the world, | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
the psychological battles remain the same. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
There's no other job like it. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:17 | |
You don't have a builder build half a wall on Monday and then | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
knock it down on Tuesday and then build it again on Wednesday. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
It would drive them insane. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
Anything can happen at any time | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
and how well you adapt to it is going to determine your performance. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:32 | |
It's a competition. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
From the unforgiving lows to the spectacular highs, | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
meet the men and women who have chosen | 0:01:37 | 0:01:39 | |
a life inside the ultimate risk-and-reward business. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
Golf gives me a chance to get away from all the numbers | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
and clear my mind a little. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
Virginia McGathey often risks hundreds of thousands of dollars | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
a day to do her job as a broker and trader. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:59 | |
Imagine you having to be at your peak performance, | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
being able to jostle numbers around for four hours straight. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
Taking it downtown! | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
Focusing and staying sharp mentally and physically, | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
really requires an enormous amount of energy and effort. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
We've had a few people with heart attacks. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
The stress of it can really take you down. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
Despite the pressures of the job, | 0:02:24 | 0:02:25 | |
Virginia has worked at the Chicago Board of Trade ever | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
since she started as a runner at the age of 17. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
Now she runs her own company dealing in commodities like wheat, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
corn and soya beans on the grain futures market. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
TRADERS SHOUT | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
The concept of futures started in Chicago in 1848 as a way to | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
protect grain farmers and their customers from risk. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
Back in the day, they had sampling bags of the seeds | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
and of the grains themselves, with the actual product from the farms. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:57 | |
A market for buying and selling contracts for the delivery of | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
grain in the future, meant farmers could protect or "hedge" against | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
extreme price swings for their crops after droughts or bumper harvests. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:09 | |
And merchants could lock in a purchasing price. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
To create a marketplace that allows you to actually leverage | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
any crop, and to sell your crop | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
before you've even put it in the ground - | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
it was a brilliant discovery and that's economics at its height. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:25 | |
TRADERS SHOUT | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
The concept evolved into today's futures and options trading, | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
and turned Chicago into the risk management capital of the world. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
Now, almost anything can be traded in futures - | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
energy, metals and currency included. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
The value of contracts traded in Chicago alone each year equates | 0:03:42 | 0:03:46 | |
to a whopping quadrillion dollars - that's 1,000 million million. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:51 | |
Seven add nine, minus 15. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
But today's traders no longer need to | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
shout loud and fight for position to make their millions. | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
FINANCIAL RADIO REPORTS | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
Now, almost all trading floors are computerised. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
So, whether they're dealing with currencies, futures, shares, | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
or complicated financial instruments, | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
most of the world's traders buy and sell via their screens. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:20 | |
Piers Curran has been trading like this for 12 years. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
I would not be a trader if I was ten years older. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
The markets I trade used to be floor-based trading in the pit - | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
you need a physical presence. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
I don't have that, so I think it's a much more level playing field, | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
and I think markets have become more competitive. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
Piers works in the City of London, | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
one of the world's biggest financial centres, where thousands | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
trade the markets hoping to reap the potentially enormous rewards. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:50 | |
It's like playing an important football match every day. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
You get these butterflies - am I going to win 5-0 | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
and score a hat trick today, | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
or are we going to get thumped 7-1? | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
We don't know. This is the beauty of my job. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
Morning, guys. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:07 | |
How you doing? | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
Piers runs his own business, | 0:05:09 | 0:05:10 | |
Amplify Trading, along with partner Will De Lucy. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
-So, today... -Amongst other assets, | 0:05:14 | 0:05:16 | |
Will and Piers trade the global foreign exchange market, | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
trying to profit from the change in | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
value of one currency in relation to another. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
Today, news from the European Central Bank could affect | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
the value of the euro. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
It's a perfect opportunity for day traders | 0:05:30 | 0:05:32 | |
like Will and Piers to make money. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, very pleased | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
to welcome you to our press conference... | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
This is a global event. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
There's people all over the world trying to trade this. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
The big question is whether the Central Bank's going to cut | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
interest rates to help the Eurozone out of recession. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
We decided to keep the key ECB interest rates unchanged. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
As expected... | 0:05:57 | 0:05:58 | |
In terms of significance, the most significant thing | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
that has been said is that nothing significant has been said. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:05 | |
It may seem little has changed, | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
but a smart trader will be reading between the lines. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
Central bankers are very good at speaking without saying anything. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:15 | |
Traders and investors are analysing their every word, | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
to compare his statement this time, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
to what he said last month and this is what moves markets. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
This is one of the elements which | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
received a good deal of attention during today's discussion. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
Piers has spotted something that he thinks will cause the euro to drop. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
He said, "The discussion we had on cutting rates in today's | 0:06:35 | 0:06:40 | |
"meeting received a good deal of attention." | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
He didn't say that last month. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
So that's him telling us, we haven't cut rates | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
but we're moving closer towards cutting rates. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
So I'm really just putting the trade on because of four words. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
I'm just going to go short. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
More than 5.3 trillion | 0:06:58 | 0:07:00 | |
moves around in the foreign exchange every day through trades like this - | 0:07:00 | 0:07:04 | |
more money than physically exists in the world. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
OK. So I'm out of my trade now - yeah, pleased with that - | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
that was a good trade. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
Piers sold the euro and bought more back at a cheaper price, | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
just two minutes later. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:18 | |
I'm 8,000 in profit. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
I wouldn't normally make that kind of return in such a tiny time frame, | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
it would normally take several hours but it was a high-risk trade. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:29 | |
So that's always the trade-off - risk and reward. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:33 | |
FINANCIAL RADIO REPORTS | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
While London's traders have already been at their screens for hours, | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
New York City, America's financial heartland and its stock trading | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
capital, is just waking up for a new trading day. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:49 | |
At the southern tip of Manhattan, a block from Wall Street, | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
is T3 Trading Group, a registered broker dealer. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
What I love about my job is you can come in every day | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
and there are opportunities. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
Not every day is a great day but there's always ways to make money. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:04 | |
If you do your job well, the sky's the limit. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
It is what you make of it. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
Scott Redler is one of the company's top traders | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
and its chief strategic officer. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
He's in at 6.30 every morning, | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
scouring the market for opportunities in big-name stocks. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
Apple, Google, Amazon, Netflix, | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
LinkedIn, Facebook, Twitter, Blackberry - | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
all household names. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:29 | |
The challenge for day traders like Scott is to spot any short-term | 0:08:30 | 0:08:34 | |
volatility in the value of a share, | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
and profit from these rapid rises and falls - | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
often all within just a few seconds. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
We're in a fast-moving, real-time market, | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
so 15 guys could have the exact same idea, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
five people might make money, five people might lose money, | 0:08:48 | 0:08:52 | |
and five people might be too scared to get in. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
So the more preparation you have, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:55 | |
hopefully we're erasing that fine line. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
The rewards are potentially enormous. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
Some traders here make several million dollars a year, | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
but no-one's paid a salary. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
What are your top two plays? | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
That one's in talks with Safeway about taking over Safeway... | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
Trading with the company's money, | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
they take home only a percentage of any profit they make for the firm. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
-Thanks, Grossman. -Yes, sure. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
If you don't trade well you don't earn. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
So, for me, if I can make 1,000-3,000 a day and have it add up | 0:09:22 | 0:09:28 | |
that's my most likely typical month. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
I'm guaranteed absolutely | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
nothing but I've made usually on average 250 to 500 a year. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:37 | |
A few miles uptown, Karen Finerman manages money for the super-rich. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:45 | |
Good morning. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:47 | |
As a hedge fund manager, | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
she's part of a global industry that | 0:09:54 | 0:09:55 | |
puts a staggering 2.5 trillion to work in the markets. | 0:09:55 | 0:10:00 | |
Good morning, William. We didn't win, huh? | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
We didn't win, ma'am. Maybe tomorrow I'll have a ticket for you. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
-All right. We'll split it. -Have a great day. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
I'm one of five kids, four girls, and my mother, | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
who didn't make her own money, | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
pounded this lesson that you have to be financially independent. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:18 | |
To me, money is power. It gives you some degree of control. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
It was absolutely important for me to make money and it's fun. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:27 | |
How are you? Good. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
I think it's seen as more pure to not want to make money, | 0:10:29 | 0:10:34 | |
and I think nobody looks at that | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
ambition in a man as a negative thing. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:41 | |
-Metropolitan. -Karen started her hedge fund, | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
Metropolitan Capital Advisors, in 1992. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
Now the firm manages more than 200 million. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
Whether markets are rising or falling, | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
hedge fund managers like Karen try to outsmart them, | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
to generate high returns for their investors. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
Tracy. How we looking? | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
She's what's known as a value investor. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
Often going against the herd, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:08 | |
her strategy is to scout for shares in companies she believes | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
are undervalued, in the hope of profiting over the longer term. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
We're looking to make a long bet - that's our bias. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
I'm an optimist by nature, so I always think if we pick right, | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
things will go up. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
So I find it very difficult to react | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
to market moves on any particular day. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
The idea that I'm going to get it right | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
and sell at the top and buy at the bottom - | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
I can almost guarantee you that I will not be able to do that. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:39 | |
At T3 Trading Group, Scott doesn't play the long game. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
The market just opened. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
He's looking for instant profit - | 0:11:46 | 0:11:47 | |
getting in and out of several trades on the same day. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
There goes Apple. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:53 | |
Facebook's negative. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
LinkedIn's not doing much. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
Twitter seems like it has a little volume, but it's early. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
Scott's already got to grips with the latest news. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
As a trader, you have to know about what's going on | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
and then see how it's going to affect your day-to-day. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:09 | |
His analysis is telling him Twitter is about to go up - | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
so he's just bought more shares. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
I added to Twitter through this price that I've been looking at - | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
this 56 over here. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:19 | |
But the market doesn't behave as expected - the price is going down. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:25 | |
Twitter just fell 55 cents. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
That hurt. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:29 | |
Within 60 seconds, | 0:12:31 | 0:12:32 | |
Scott's trade in Twitter has cost him his average daily earnings - | 0:12:32 | 0:12:36 | |
2,000. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
That was horrendous. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:39 | |
Oh, my goodness, Twitter's going to hurt. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
Sometimes everyone blames the market | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
but if you have a bad day or a bad trade, it tells you right away. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
There's no-one to blame except yourself. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
There are some traders out there who punch a screen, break a keyboard | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
and we have some of them in the firm. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
It's a process, everyone works on it. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
35 minutes after the market opened, | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
Scott's looking to recoup his losses. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
Baidu's strong. Let's see if I can make another move there. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
He's just bought some shares in Baidu, | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
the Chinese equivalent of Google. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
This one had good earnings and it seems like | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
it's something that could go. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:16 | |
Scott's right. Baidu's price is rising. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
Eager to make a profit, he quickly sells the shares he's just bought. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:23 | |
That was a 500 trade in a three-minute time period, | 0:13:24 | 0:13:29 | |
and with the way my day is shaping up, | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
I just wanted to take some trades and let the day add up. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
That was a nice little tactic. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
But Baidu's price continues to rise and 20 minutes later, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
Scott's realises he could have made much more profit if he'd waited. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
Baidu's a monster. I got out of that too early. That was strong, | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
I should have kept that one and that right there is frustrating. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:55 | |
Little things hurt, | 0:13:55 | 0:13:56 | |
so you got to make sure you stay positive | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
so that those little things don't continue to cut you up. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:04 | |
-PHONE RINGS -Metropolitan. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
-What did we buy 182? -183. -183? | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
Although she keeps a close eye on the day-to-day value of shares | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
she's invested in, with many millions of dollars at stake, | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
Karen often has to hold her nerve. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
For her, it's all about the bigger picture. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
Ukraine is in upheaval right now. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
The US market is down 230 now, which is a meaningful move - | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
fear in the marketplace. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
Our job is to determine is this really relevant to our companies, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
or is this noise? | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
And we tend to think it's the latter, so it's difficult to lose money, | 0:14:35 | 0:14:40 | |
which we will do, on a day like today. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
Yet, I don't think that the fundamental stories of | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
any of our businesses have changed at all. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:50 | |
FINANCIAL RADIO REPORT | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
The rich rewards that come with successful trading make it | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
an attractive prospect for many. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
In London, experienced traders | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
Will and Piers use their knowledge to train other people. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
Today, ten new trainees are about to discover | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
if they have what it takes to become traders. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
I set up a couple of companies. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:11 | |
Got far too much money far too quickly | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
and got involved in some rather stupid things | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
and losing it all in spectacular fashion. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
Ben Marsh has paid to come on Amplify's four-month course | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
to learn to trade with his own funds. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
Personal circumstances are also a reason I'm here | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
because I've got married. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
And I've been able to live a pretty good life as a single guy, | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
but suddenly if you're going to have a wife, family, kids, | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
this will hopefully be an avenue for me | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
to build a good environment for my family. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
Don't try and kid yourself that this isn't very difficult. It is. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:44 | |
Can you be OK with the fact that losing money is part of the job? | 0:15:44 | 0:15:50 | |
Will and Piers believe that most people find it far harder to | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
acquire the psychological and emotional skills | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
than to master the technicalities of trading. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
Sports psychology and trading psychology both need the | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
individual to perform at the best of their ability, | 0:16:02 | 0:16:07 | |
at the time that it matters. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
You can't retake a penalty against Germany in the World Cup. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:14 | |
What makes a good trader is somebody who can manage risk | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
and who can control their emotional state, | 0:16:18 | 0:16:23 | |
so that their decision-making process remains clear and logical. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:28 | |
Ade Maradesa has just finished a master's degree in business | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
and wants a career in investment banking. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
When people say money's not important or money doesn't count, | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
it's because you have loads of it. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
Making money and being able to do the things | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
you want to do in life is very, very important for me. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
The journey the trainees are about to embark is something | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
Will and Piers understand only too well. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
They cut their teeth as young traders in the boom years | 0:16:55 | 0:16:57 | |
of the mid-noughties working on a large trading floor in Canary Wharf. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:02 | |
Canary Wharf has great memories for us. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
That period of time was almost too good to be true. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
In January 2005, Piers made his best-ever trade when rumours | 0:17:07 | 0:17:12 | |
about an earthquake in America set off a huge market reaction. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
The German bond markets began pricing this in very, very rapidly | 0:17:16 | 0:17:20 | |
as a major situation. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
We were able to take advantage of the short-term inefficiency | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
in the market's behaviour. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
The profit was 120,000 euros | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
and I think I finished work that day at 9am. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
But I guess once you have a big trade like that, | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
it's very important, psychologically, | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
to perhaps just sit back. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
You're so euphoric that if you try and carry on you'll tend to | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
give back a lot of the profit that you've already generated. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
They may have made big profits, but they also made big losses. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
We started at the same time - I was doing very well | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
so I was allowed to risk a lot. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:55 | |
However, this was after a number of months of stellar performance, | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
then two days poor performance, and so mentally, | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
I was in a situation where I wanted to make back, | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
which is exactly what you shouldn't do. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
I kept on trying the same strategy which wasn't working - | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
it wasn't working and I kept on trying it. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
So the risk manager came over to my desk, | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
turned everything off, "Come into my office." | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
-BOTH: -The walk of shame. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
He sits me down and he goes, | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
"Disappointing doesn't cover it. Get out." | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
I tell you what, your ego takes a big, big hit. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
And probably rightly so, actually, cos as soon as you start thinking, | 0:18:29 | 0:18:35 | |
"Right, I can just make this back and push this market around," | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
then you learn a lesson every now and then. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
Back at Amplify's offices, the trainees are about to | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
experience those high and lows of trading for the first time. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
OK, guys. Some important economic data coming. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
They're trading real markets, in real-time, | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
the only thing that's not real is the money. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
You have one number to listen to - I want to see you reacting, | 0:18:55 | 0:19:00 | |
OK? That's the job. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
'215,000, that's higher than expected.' | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
We can't tell before someone starts how their inner character is going | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
to display themselves on the market | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
in a period of total uncertainty and risk. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
There's nothing more uncertain than the markets. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
Will is able to monitor the trainees' every move | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
and can assess how well or badly they've traded. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
First up is Ben. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:26 | |
For a new trader, this can be quite common. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
Every time there's movement, they're selling, | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
buying, selling buying, and that's something | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
you get out of with the more experience you get. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
When you first sit in front of the screen it's a bewildering | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
series of charts, and arrows and things flashing at you, | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
telling you stuff. At the moment it's almost all luck. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
It's very, very demanding. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
This is the first time I'm trading and I'm just beginning to | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
get to know the concept. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
But right now this is all foreign to me. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
It's definitely been a difficult day for Ade. | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
He's been buying whilst the market's been moving lower. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
He's just been the wrong way round all day. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
When they get halfway through the course, any of the trainees | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
who are doing well will move up to trading with Amplify's real money. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:12 | |
I'm really pleased that you got to | 0:20:12 | 0:20:13 | |
see how the market can change so violently. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
It makes you realise that anything can happen at any time. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
OK, good. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:20 | |
They'll go through cycles of confidence, | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
a feeling of ability and then they'll have a bad experience | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
and that's when the real test of the mettle comes. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
-PHONE RINGS -Metropolitan. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
For Karen, the performance of a hedge fund is personal. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
Like many managers in the industry, she's staked her own money on it. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:48 | |
I'm a big investor here, | 0:20:48 | 0:20:49 | |
so I know what it feels like to lose money and that's bad. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
But the feeling of losing money for someone else is far worse. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
There's something about failing them, something about not being | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
able to deliver, even in the short term, that's very painful, stressful. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:09 | |
But work's certainly not the only stress in Karen's life. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
DOG BARKS | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
Oh, you're big and strong! | 0:21:15 | 0:21:16 | |
'I don't know how we ended up with a dog.' | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
My kids were just begging and begging me and I really held | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
the line for a long time and then we just we just caved. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:26 | |
I mean, he's adorable, we love him, | 0:21:26 | 0:21:27 | |
but, oh, my God, what a pain in the ass, you know. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
'Just scheduling Jessie alone is really a lot.' | 0:21:32 | 0:21:36 | |
I think he needs a haircut, Kate. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
To help run life at home, | 0:21:38 | 0:21:39 | |
Karen has a dog walker and a housekeeper. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:43 | |
Having not one but two sets of twins, | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
she also has an assistant who helps manage the children's schedules. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:50 | |
So this is the motherboard. Each child has a different colour coding. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:55 | |
It's a bit of complicated life, but I can't imagine any other way. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
I don't know what it's like to have one child at a time, that's something | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
I've never experienced, so I just feel this is how people have kids. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:08 | |
Jessie, come here! | 0:22:08 | 0:22:09 | |
Karen's Park Avenue apartment is also | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
a haven from the pressures of a demanding career and family life. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
So this is the living room. This space really right here, | 0:22:15 | 0:22:20 | |
the gallery and this room, | 0:22:20 | 0:22:21 | |
this is why I fell in love with the apartment, this is why I bought it. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:25 | |
I'm happy to just sit and read, it's very calming. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:31 | |
Often in New York it's very cramped and you don't have the feeling | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
of a lot of space. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:35 | |
That's why we love this apartment - it has the feeling of a lot of space. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
Despite the luxury her success affords her family, | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
Karen likes to keep her children firmly grounded. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:46 | |
My husband likes to tell them, "Mommy and I have enough money, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:51 | |
"you guys have to go out in the world and make your own." | 0:22:51 | 0:22:55 | |
The idea that they can do nothing, that's absolutely not allowed. | 0:22:55 | 0:23:00 | |
Hey! Look who it is! | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
What kind of medal did you get? | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
Scott's also very aware of the impact trading can | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
have on family life. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
-I lost by one point. -That's OK. Did you hustle? | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
Yes, I did. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:17 | |
I try and switch off from the markets when I get home, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
but you always have a thought in the back of your head, | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
"What's going on in the markets? | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
"How are my positions going to do the next day?" | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
So it's easy to get caught up in that so I try not to...but it's hard. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:33 | |
Scott is convinced his discipline as a trader is | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
boosted by his passion for endurance sports. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
He's done more than 30 triathlons | 0:23:38 | 0:23:39 | |
and two Ironman contests - one of the toughest races on the planet. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
I think there's a lot of similarities between | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
high-performance sports and trading. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:48 | |
When you're out in the race, it's you versus you - | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
your system, your process. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
And the same way in trading, you're in control of your day. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
It's really all about you putting yourself | 0:23:56 | 0:23:58 | |
in a position to succeed on your game plan. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
FINANCIAL RADIO REPORTS | 0:24:00 | 0:24:04 | |
The trainees in London are nearly a month into their course, | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
and Piers is assessing their performance. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:13 | |
Ben's managed to make a profit. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
So far, so good, really. Could be beginner's luck. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:21 | |
I mean, the amount I've made is tiny. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:23 | |
Like yesterday, I struggled very hard all day to make princely | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
sum of 12.50, | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
but it had taken such determination to get to that point. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:32 | |
Carlos Matos, a digital consultant looking for a career change, | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
has caught Piers' eye. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
He's been particularly active in the markets | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
and could be getting into risky habits. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
So, Carlos, the trading machine, | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
who must have repetitive strain injury in his right index finger. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:52 | |
So this is his big problem - severe overtrading. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:56 | |
Ade appears to have the opposite problem. | 0:24:56 | 0:25:00 | |
Last week, Ade made one trade in the whole week. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
One single trade, | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
and, therefore, isn't learning. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:10 | |
But it's hard for these guys to take risk that naturally they're | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
uncomfortable with. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
But it's only going to get harder. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
Today, the trainees will have to | 0:25:19 | 0:25:20 | |
react to news from the Federal Reserve - | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
one of the biggest announcements of the month. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:25 | |
Good afternoon... | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
Let's review the upcoming big event. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
The big question is whether the Fed will reduce, or taper, the billions | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
of dollars it's spending each month on stimulating the American economy. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:41 | |
No matter what happens today, | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
you're going to get some decent market reaction. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
The market thinks no taper today. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
Ten seconds... | 0:25:48 | 0:25:50 | |
Don't feel you have to jump in and you have to trade, | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
it might be quite chaotic. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
If you lose control of your risk you will be chewed up and spat out. | 0:25:55 | 0:26:01 | |
Good luck. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
'The Fed has tapered a 10 billion taper...' | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
OK, guys, that was a 10 billion taper. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:09 | |
This is more tapering than the market has expected, | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
so just be careful, you can see how much noise there is. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
This is crazy. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:16 | |
A second announcement, | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
saying that interest rates will stay low, is causing even more confusion. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:23 | |
Bottom line, the Fed have surprised us, | 0:26:23 | 0:26:25 | |
They're saying that the economy's very strong, | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
but on the other hand they're saying we're still concerned | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
about the fragility of that recovery, | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
so we're going to keep interest rates very low for longer - | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
two contradictory things happening at the same time. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
And what you get with that is market chaos. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:44 | |
And it's very hard to trade chaos. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
But "trading machine" Carlos hasn't been able to resist jumping in. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
I did a quick one, like a sell/buy, five seconds. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:55 | |
Well, pretty dangerous on the risk/reward | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
because if you didn't get the buy after the sell, | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
you could have got hit by quite a large amount. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
Will has been monitoring the trainees | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
and their progress is a pleasant surprise. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
No-one's had a car crash. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:11 | |
The fact that you keep on being taught dogma - | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
discipline, discipline, discipline - | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
has done you well. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
I was up 625 and very quickly lost 287 in the euro | 0:27:17 | 0:27:22 | |
but luckily, the S&P was much better | 0:27:22 | 0:27:24 | |
than the euro was bad, so a good day. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
I did something I'll probably never do again. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
I just sold and bought again after a few seconds | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
and I made a profit of 275. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:36 | |
It's a very risky move and I just did it today | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
because it's the end of the month | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
and I just wanted to have this thrill. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:43 | |
Although the trainees have had a good day | 0:27:45 | 0:27:47 | |
with their simulated money, | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
Amplify's professional traders haven't fared so well. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
The more experienced guys | 0:27:52 | 0:27:53 | |
had actually lost their discipline more than you. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:57 | |
The more experienced guys had traded with too much confidence | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
when the market was uncertain. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
In the end, we lost money as a firm. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
Some of our guys had their worst day for months, | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
Some have lost profit they've been building | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 | |
over the course of the last week | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
that has gone in 30 minutes. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
But the trainees had their best day of the training course so far, | 0:28:13 | 0:28:17 | |
so...go figure. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
At the end of his first month, | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
Ben's feeling chipper about his progress. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
So far, I've loved every moment of it. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
You know, I've found something that you can earn a living from. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:35 | |
It's a challenge cos it's so bloody difficult to nail it. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:39 | |
Ben has recently got married to Francoise, | 0:28:39 | 0:28:41 | |
who's been on the receiving end of his venture into trading. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
He always talks about the same. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:47 | |
He has become grumpier, but since I told him, | 0:28:47 | 0:28:51 | |
he's put some effort into not being too grumpy. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
It's very much an internal process | 0:28:54 | 0:28:56 | |
and it's not particularly easy to explain. | 0:28:56 | 0:29:00 | |
When you do it at home, I will understand better, I guess. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:03 | |
Yes, the strangled sounds of shouting coming from the study. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:07 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:29:07 | 0:29:08 | |
With the prospect of starting a family, | 0:29:10 | 0:29:12 | |
after finishing the course, | 0:29:12 | 0:29:13 | |
Ben hopes to trade his own money from home. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
Until you find something that really motivates you, | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
you're not going to fully engage. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:21 | |
This is something I can fully engage in, | 0:29:21 | 0:29:23 | |
partly because it's so difficult, partly because it never lets up. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:28 | |
You have to be on your game all the time. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:30 | |
Usually the first thing in the morning, | 0:29:33 | 0:29:35 | |
I will grab my phone and kind of take a look at where the market is. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
As a commodities broker, | 0:29:38 | 0:29:40 | |
Virginia McGathey is always plugged into the markets | 0:29:40 | 0:29:43 | |
and the news that influences them 24/7. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
The problems happening in the Ukraine, | 0:29:46 | 0:29:47 | |
the weather issues in South America, Australia, China... | 0:29:47 | 0:29:51 | |
All of these markets are open round the clock | 0:29:51 | 0:29:53 | |
so when we wake up in the morning, | 0:29:53 | 0:29:55 | |
all that information just comes flooding over. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
So wheat's down seven cents, corn's down one and a half, | 0:29:58 | 0:30:01 | |
soybeans down two... | 0:30:01 | 0:30:03 | |
I need to buy four. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:04 | |
As well as acting for clients, | 0:30:04 | 0:30:05 | |
Virginia sometimes trades for herself. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
Thanks, Randy. OK, bye. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
Yay! | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
That's good. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:13 | |
She's just made a profit on wheat before she's even left for work. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
That's about 1,700 - that's a good morning. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:21 | |
The true currency of the world is number one, water, | 0:30:21 | 0:30:25 | |
number two, food and number three, energy. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
Being in the commodity market, | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
I really have my thumb on the pulse of the world. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
Today, the grain market could be particularly volatile. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:36 | |
The US government is due to release its monthly crop report, | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
which will reveal the total supply of staples like wheat. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:43 | |
This is really important to all the investors, farmers, | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
anybody that has anything to do with the grain market. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
If the crops are hurting | 0:30:49 | 0:30:51 | |
or if the drought weather is really affecting the market, | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
that's really what's going to dictate what's going to happen. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
It's a true supply and demand situation | 0:30:57 | 0:30:59 | |
and that will dictate the prices | 0:30:59 | 0:31:01 | |
and believe me, there's going to be a number of people | 0:31:01 | 0:31:03 | |
that are going to be betting whether the market's going to go up or down. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:07 | |
Bob Lassandrello has worked at the Board of Trade for 35 years. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:17 | |
You go to the place, you make something out of nothing every day, | 0:31:17 | 0:31:20 | |
it's, er...you know, it's a dynamic, really challenging place to be. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:25 | |
He trades futures in cattle. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:30 | |
There's so much ego and so much personal identity involved | 0:31:30 | 0:31:34 | |
in being a trader - | 0:31:34 | 0:31:35 | |
it's about money, but it's about everything else too. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
Bob's what's known as a "market maker" - | 0:31:40 | 0:31:42 | |
taking the other side of a trade | 0:31:42 | 0:31:43 | |
when buyers and sellers want to get in or out of the market. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:47 | |
He does this with his own money - a high-risk strategy. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:52 | |
When you're right and the market's going your way, | 0:31:52 | 0:31:54 | |
you get a real buzz. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:55 | |
It's an excellent feeling. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:57 | |
Hey, Kevin, did you get the 4-45? | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
Is it addictive? Oh, hell, yes. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
Oh, yeah - anybody that tells you that it's not | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
would be...not being truthful. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
What, want me to come down and fill them out for you, too? | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
'I did trade a lot for better for worse.' | 0:32:08 | 0:32:10 | |
It was...I had a little bit of a trading problem. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:12 | |
-INTERVIEWER: -A trading problem? | 0:32:12 | 0:32:14 | |
I'm kidding - it's...like, an addiction, | 0:32:14 | 0:32:16 | |
I traded...I traded a lot of contracts. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:18 | |
But as a young person coming up in this industry, | 0:32:18 | 0:32:20 | |
it was definitely a problem. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:22 | |
You have to transition from the super-high energy thing | 0:32:22 | 0:32:27 | |
to just, "OK, now go home | 0:32:27 | 0:32:29 | |
"and...change the baby diapers", or whatever. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:31 | |
Caused some issues throughout my life - | 0:32:31 | 0:32:33 | |
thankfully, I'm still married to the same woman after 36 years | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
so that's, er...a good thing. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:37 | |
I don't know how common that is. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:39 | |
I want to sell the May 15 950 calls and buy the 650 puts. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:44 | |
CLAMOUR AND SHOUTING | 0:32:44 | 0:32:46 | |
At 11 o'clock, the Government crop report numbers | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
will reveal whether there's a surplus or shortage | 0:32:49 | 0:32:51 | |
of wheat, corn and soya beans. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
This report is going to go out, | 0:32:55 | 0:32:56 | |
all the trading desks are going to be taking a look | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
at what their position is. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:00 | |
Hi, this is Randy over in wheat. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:02 | |
There's less wheat than expected. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:08 | |
Being scarcer, the price should rise. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
But there seem to be more sellers than buyers, | 0:33:11 | 0:33:13 | |
so it's actually falling. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:15 | |
Trading for herself, Virginia spots an opportunity. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
Buy four wheat, buy four wheat. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
Betting that the price will rise due to the shortfall, | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
she buys wheat. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:26 | |
But with other positions she has open, | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
there's confusion about what she's sold, or is short, | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
and what she's bought, or is long. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:34 | |
How many am I long? | 0:33:34 | 0:33:36 | |
CLAMOUR AND SHOUTING | 0:33:36 | 0:33:38 | |
Just look on the book, look on the book. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
It's not coming up, Ginny, that's what I'm telling you. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:42 | |
'It's very easy to make a mistake and when market's moving very fast, | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
'there's big risk on the table, | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
'the mistake could be tens of thousands of dollars.' | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
Oh, you couldn't see the average, I see, I see. That's OK. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:55 | |
It's now been 15 minutes since Virginia bought. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:59 | |
-28 a quarter. -Sell four. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:00 | |
As she predicted, the wheat price has rallied | 0:34:02 | 0:34:04 | |
and she's sold at a profit. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:06 | |
So, look where we bought, and sold those up there. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
Nice job. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:10 | |
Spectacular work. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:11 | |
Thank you. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:13 | |
'I had a very good day today.' | 0:34:13 | 0:34:15 | |
4,200 - so, it's not too bad, | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
I mean, I know the value of a dollar, I can appreciate it. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:22 | |
That helps towards a nice dinner tonight, for sure. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
'You've been listening to morning reports on 5 Live, it's 5.30.' | 0:34:26 | 0:34:30 | |
'There's been panic on the stock markets this morning...' | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
It's the start of month two for the Amplify trainees. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:36 | |
Ben, who was doing well until now, | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
has seen his profits take a sudden dip. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
When it's at its best, it's a bit like playing tennis | 0:34:42 | 0:34:44 | |
or playing piano - you don't notice you're doing it. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:47 | |
It's when it's going crap that you have to think about it a lot | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
and you're aware of everything you're doing. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:52 | |
It's almost as if you're operating through a filter of incompetence | 0:34:52 | 0:34:55 | |
and mishap. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:56 | |
Although they're still not trading with real money, this month, | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
the trainees will be assessed on their profits at every stage. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:03 | |
Those who do well will move up to trading with the company's funds. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:07 | |
The most important factor of this next step is psychological | 0:35:07 | 0:35:11 | |
and the feeling of being incorrect or losing money is exaggerated, | 0:35:11 | 0:35:16 | |
it's much higher than when it was just in the training room. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:20 | |
There's a chance for Ben to improve his performance this morning | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
with the release of American oil figures. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:25 | |
The market's just dropped by 50 cents. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:28 | |
The price of crude oil is plummeting. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
It's a great opportunity to short it - | 0:35:31 | 0:35:33 | |
to sell it and then buy it back at a lower price. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
But the trainees need to react quickly. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
A lot of them are going short now, which is too late. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
They've seen the market react, | 0:35:42 | 0:35:44 | |
but weren't able to commit to the trade, | 0:35:44 | 0:35:46 | |
they weren't confident enough. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:47 | |
That's Ben, selling right at the very bottom. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
So Ben's lost 100 simulated dollars. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:54 | |
He will know what he's done wrong but it didn't stop him doing it. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:58 | |
The other trainees are struggling too. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:00 | |
Kieran, an accountancy graduate, | 0:36:00 | 0:36:02 | |
hasn't reacted quickly enough either. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
It's a little bit of a slow reaction. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
That's about ten seconds, which isn't particularly fast. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:11 | |
-INTERVIEWER: -That's not fast? -No, that's not fast. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
You're competing against everyone else in the world that's hearing this news. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:18 | |
And, actually, in these markets now, | 0:36:18 | 0:36:19 | |
you're also competing against machines and algorithms. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
So, yeah, you do need to be fast. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:24 | |
It's the end of the trading session | 0:36:24 | 0:36:26 | |
and Ben's kicking himself over his earlier mistake. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:30 | |
I went in very aggressively, but I got caught - | 0:36:30 | 0:36:33 | |
lost 100 bucks very quickly, which is a painful thing. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
It is brutal, how financial markets can grind you down. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:44 | |
It's quite a vicious circle - | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
once you're in that confidence crisis, | 0:36:46 | 0:36:48 | |
it's very difficult to reverse it and come out positively. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:54 | |
It does test you all the time - | 0:36:54 | 0:36:56 | |
you are just there before whatever the market throws at you. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
And if you make a mistake, you cannot hide from it. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
Nearly 25 years ago, while in his 20s, | 0:37:01 | 0:37:04 | |
Ben made the biggest mistake of his life | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
and paid for it with a prison sentence. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:09 | |
-REPORTER: -Two clever young men from the finest backgrounds... | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
After graduating, Ben went into business | 0:37:12 | 0:37:14 | |
with old Etonian Darius Guppy. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:17 | |
Guppy was best man at the wedding of the Princess of Wales' brother, | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
now Earl Spencer. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
Marsh and Guppy had it all - social status, | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
brilliant academic careers at Oxford, | 0:37:24 | 0:37:26 | |
the directorships of a gem dealing company | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
in London's Jermyn Street. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:29 | |
When their business ran into trouble, | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
they embarked on a reckless plan. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:34 | |
In New York, they nearly pulled off the perfect crime. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
They told police they'd been robbed of their collection | 0:37:37 | 0:37:39 | |
of sapphires, emeralds and rubies at gunpoint. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
Insurers paid out £1.8 million. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
But the fraud was later uncovered. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
Of course it was the wrong thing to do - wrong, stupid, | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
when you're squatting on a bucket in Brixton, | 0:37:51 | 0:37:53 | |
and you've had a good start in life | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
and you've ended up, you know, minus your freedom, | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
you think, "Maybe I've made some fairly moronic life choices here." | 0:37:58 | 0:38:02 | |
And it's only by looking at yourself and seeing what you've done wrong | 0:38:02 | 0:38:06 | |
that you can actually then move forward | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
and learn lessons in life. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:10 | |
Luckily, I've had 20 years of making the right choices | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
and I have a very clear idea of what a risk-reward is. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
And that, for what I'm doing now, is a useful lesson | 0:38:16 | 0:38:19 | |
because every decision I make is my choice | 0:38:19 | 0:38:23 | |
and I stand or fall by it in the markets. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
In New York, hedge fund manager Karen Finerman | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
also manages to squeeze in twice weekly appearances | 0:38:33 | 0:38:35 | |
on one of America's most-watched business programmes. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
So can you see the transformation taking place? It's magic. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:38:43 | 0:38:45 | |
When we first started the show, | 0:38:45 | 0:38:47 | |
I would have to leave before 4 o'clock | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
and I found that to be an unacceptable trade off - | 0:38:50 | 0:38:54 | |
I manage money, I want to be here and doing that | 0:38:54 | 0:38:58 | |
until the market's closed. | 0:38:58 | 0:38:59 | |
286... | 0:38:59 | 0:39:02 | |
Straight after the 4pm close, | 0:39:02 | 0:39:04 | |
Karen dashes to the studio in Times Square | 0:39:04 | 0:39:06 | |
to record Fast Money, | 0:39:06 | 0:39:08 | |
joining a panel of savvy professional traders. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
-Look at you. -And look at you! | 0:39:11 | 0:39:13 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:39:13 | 0:39:14 | |
Fast Money starts right now, live from Nasdaq Market Side | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
in New York City's Times Square. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:18 | |
I'm Melissa Lee. Our traders tonight are Tim Seymour, Brian Kelly, | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
Karen Finerman and Guy Adami. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:23 | |
Fears that the crisis in Ukraine | 0:39:23 | 0:39:25 | |
is weighing heavily on US investors | 0:39:25 | 0:39:26 | |
as Russian troops go into Crimea... | 0:39:26 | 0:39:28 | |
And Karen, you're taking a look at potential nat-gas disruptions. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
Right - really, the one trade we made on Ukraine getting worse | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
is if there was disruption to natural gas... | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
'You really can never fully be away from the weight' | 0:39:37 | 0:39:42 | |
of performance and how the portfolio is positioned. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:47 | |
There is always a measurement. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:48 | |
There's always somebody way smarter than you out there, | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
way better. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:52 | |
But trading performance isn't always about smart instincts | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
and well-informed opinions - | 0:39:55 | 0:39:58 | |
sometimes, it's about speed. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
One of the fastest and most prolific traders on the planet | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
is Remco Lenterman. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:06 | |
Trading at the speed of light, his company, based in Amsterdam, | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
does more than 100 billion worth of business every day. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:15 | |
Maybe five years ago, our markets were measured in the milliseconds, | 0:40:15 | 0:40:19 | |
that's a thousandth of a second. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:21 | |
Today, most of the large exchanges in the world are transacting | 0:40:21 | 0:40:25 | |
in matters of microseconds | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
and microseconds is one millionth of a second. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
He's part of a controversial and highly secretive industry | 0:40:33 | 0:40:36 | |
usually closed to the outside world. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
But convinced of the value he brings to markets, | 0:40:38 | 0:40:41 | |
Remco's prepared to open his doors. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:43 | |
IMC Financial Markets trades on more than 100 exchanges around the world. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:51 | |
But it's not the humans doing the trading here - | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
it's the machines. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:56 | |
1-2 billion. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:57 | |
That's aggressive. | 0:40:57 | 0:40:59 | |
High frequency trading uses sophisticated algorithms | 0:40:59 | 0:41:03 | |
and ultra-high speed networks | 0:41:03 | 0:41:05 | |
to buy and sell millions of times a day. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:08 | |
Remco's traders are a new breed - | 0:41:11 | 0:41:13 | |
more likely to be science, engineering or maths graduates. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:17 | |
Just like a pilot will do in a plane, our traders manage the autopilot. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:24 | |
So they manage the algorithms, | 0:41:24 | 0:41:26 | |
they tweak the settings continuously, | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
they'll check if there is something happening | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
that the algorithm may not be able to deal with in a correct manner, | 0:41:32 | 0:41:36 | |
but they manage the process. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:37 | |
IMC uses these algorithms to make markets, | 0:41:39 | 0:41:43 | |
offering a buy or sell price on millions of trades, | 0:41:43 | 0:41:46 | |
from each of which it takes a tiny sliver of profit. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
This ensures liquidity, | 0:41:51 | 0:41:53 | |
so that buyers and sellers can get in or out of the market at any time | 0:41:53 | 0:41:56 | |
because there's always someone to complete the other side of a trade. | 0:41:56 | 0:42:00 | |
If I'm making a market on ten different exchanges, | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
I'm sending out 40,000 prices. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
And each time there is a change in the market, | 0:42:07 | 0:42:09 | |
all these prices need to change and they need to change very quickly. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:14 | |
There's no way a human being can do that. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:16 | |
The Dutch are always very early adopters of technologies | 0:42:16 | 0:42:20 | |
and they also have a healthy appreciation | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
that when there is a paradigm shift in a market, | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
you need to adapt yourself to it. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:28 | |
After more than 35 years of trading futures in the pit, | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
Bob's considering his own future. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:35 | |
95% of all trade coming through Chicago is now done electronically, | 0:42:37 | 0:42:42 | |
which has drastically reduced business on the floor. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
I trade today, on a busy day, maybe 400-500 contracts a day. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:50 | |
When I was busy during the old days, I would trade 5,000 contracts a day. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:54 | |
So now I make 10% of what I made five years or ago or whatever. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:59 | |
Bob now spends most of his time in front of the computer. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:02 | |
Even when the market moves a lot it's just pretty frigging boring, | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 | |
I'm just not that interested. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:07 | |
It doesn't play well into what my strengths are as a trader | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
and that's kind of reading people, I guess, fundamentally, | 0:43:10 | 0:43:12 | |
when it comes down to it. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:14 | |
Did you know that there's a high correlation | 0:43:14 | 0:43:16 | |
between consumption of cheese | 0:43:16 | 0:43:17 | |
and the number of people who die after getting tangled in bed sheets? | 0:43:17 | 0:43:21 | |
For us old pit guys, this is kind of funny. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:23 | |
ALL SHOUT | 0:43:23 | 0:43:25 | |
'In the pit, it is kind of like a giant poker game. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:27 | |
'You can see the fear in that guy's eyes, | 0:43:27 | 0:43:29 | |
'or you can hear the change in that guy's voice.' | 0:43:29 | 0:43:31 | |
Hang on, I'll be right there... | 0:43:31 | 0:43:33 | |
'You sort of knew which brokers or traders were representing themselves, | 0:43:33 | 0:43:37 | |
'which ones were representing speculators or funds, | 0:43:37 | 0:43:40 | |
'so as a result you kind of knew what they might be doing.' | 0:43:40 | 0:43:43 | |
Traders now need very different skills. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:48 | |
Electronic markets are bigger and faster, | 0:43:48 | 0:43:50 | |
and the ever-accelerating speed of transactions | 0:43:50 | 0:43:52 | |
has attracted the attention of regulators | 0:43:52 | 0:43:55 | |
concerned about transparency and instability in financial markets. | 0:43:55 | 0:43:59 | |
In this facility we'll have about 200 or so servers, | 0:44:00 | 0:44:04 | |
and you'll see that they all have names, | 0:44:04 | 0:44:08 | |
just like a farmer will give their cows names | 0:44:08 | 0:44:12 | |
so that we know that when Smaak fails, | 0:44:12 | 0:44:15 | |
we know that's the one we need to replace. | 0:44:15 | 0:44:17 | |
I think that there is an industry of critics | 0:44:17 | 0:44:20 | |
that want to believe that there's a whole bunch of people | 0:44:20 | 0:44:22 | |
in the financial industry that are providing zero value. | 0:44:22 | 0:44:25 | |
We do millions of transactions every day. | 0:44:25 | 0:44:28 | |
If I switch my machines off tomorrow | 0:44:28 | 0:44:31 | |
then everybody that did business with me today | 0:44:31 | 0:44:34 | |
will get, potentially, a worse price | 0:44:34 | 0:44:38 | |
than they would have otherwise gotten. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:40 | |
5 on 50! | 0:44:42 | 0:44:44 | |
90 on 20! | 0:44:44 | 0:44:46 | |
Having placed his trades for the day on the computer, | 0:44:46 | 0:44:49 | |
Bob now ventures into the pit for the last half hour of trading. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:52 | |
It's the only time when there's still enough business | 0:44:52 | 0:44:55 | |
to make it worth his while. | 0:44:55 | 0:44:56 | |
10 on 200, in case you want to get out of them. | 0:44:56 | 0:44:58 | |
10 on 300! | 0:44:58 | 0:45:00 | |
HE CHUCKLES | 0:45:00 | 0:45:01 | |
Most trades are done in the final minute, | 0:45:01 | 0:45:04 | |
as traders try to get in and out of positions | 0:45:04 | 0:45:06 | |
before the closing price is set for the day. | 0:45:06 | 0:45:09 | |
Buy 'em, buy 'em, buy 'em... | 0:45:09 | 0:45:11 | |
ALL SHOUT | 0:45:11 | 0:45:13 | |
Buy 'em! Buy 'em! What the fuck?! | 0:45:16 | 0:45:20 | |
90 bid! | 0:45:20 | 0:45:22 | |
Bob thinks he's just missed out on a profitable trade | 0:45:26 | 0:45:29 | |
because of a misunderstanding about price. | 0:45:29 | 0:45:31 | |
No, no, no. | 0:45:31 | 0:45:34 | |
80 bid! 80 bid! | 0:45:34 | 0:45:37 | |
-Geoff, what did we do? -Just hang on. | 0:45:40 | 0:45:41 | |
'When there was more trade in the pit it didn't feel quite as significant. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:45 | |
'But people are really scrambling, and there is an element of panic | 0:45:45 | 0:45:49 | |
'because if you miss this trade that's it.' | 0:45:49 | 0:45:52 | |
-Did I get anything over there? -It goes back to Steve. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:54 | |
Having lost out in the pit, | 0:45:54 | 0:45:56 | |
Bob now checks the closing price | 0:45:56 | 0:45:58 | |
to see how the trades he placed in the office have done. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:01 | |
Where did it settle at, 27? | 0:46:01 | 0:46:04 | |
32, it settled at? | 0:46:04 | 0:46:05 | |
Fuck, we should have been selling these... | 0:46:05 | 0:46:06 | |
Bob's strategy for the day has been wrong. | 0:46:06 | 0:46:09 | |
The market has moved in the opposite direction | 0:46:09 | 0:46:11 | |
and he's bought when he should have sold. | 0:46:11 | 0:46:14 | |
I'm a fucking idiot. It's fucking brutal, pardon my... | 0:46:14 | 0:46:18 | |
So, what you going to do? | 0:46:18 | 0:46:20 | |
There's always tomorrow. | 0:46:20 | 0:46:21 | |
Bob's computer trades have cost him an entire week's earnings. | 0:46:23 | 0:46:27 | |
All the profits I had up to this point were gone after today's close. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:31 | |
I'm not happy, but it's not going to ruin my day. | 0:46:31 | 0:46:33 | |
If you can't deal with it then you're in the wrong business. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:36 | |
I had this little thing when I was trading a lot, | 0:46:36 | 0:46:39 | |
and I would have, like, a relatively bad day, | 0:46:39 | 0:46:41 | |
I would go buy something. | 0:46:41 | 0:46:42 | |
Just something that was not super extravagant, | 0:46:42 | 0:46:45 | |
but at least it kind of reminded me that I wasn't broke | 0:46:45 | 0:46:47 | |
and I wasn't as big of an idiot as I felt like | 0:46:47 | 0:46:50 | |
after I walked off the trading floor. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:51 | |
For me, bad days were very emotional, | 0:46:51 | 0:46:53 | |
I assume they are for other guys too, and I'm not really sure why. | 0:46:53 | 0:46:56 | |
It feels very personal when you lose money. | 0:46:56 | 0:46:58 | |
It's crunch time for the Amplify trainees. | 0:47:00 | 0:47:03 | |
Today they will be told who gets the opportunity | 0:47:03 | 0:47:06 | |
to trade with the company's money. | 0:47:06 | 0:47:09 | |
Ade's still not trading enough | 0:47:09 | 0:47:10 | |
for Piers and Will to assess him properly. | 0:47:10 | 0:47:13 | |
They think he's still scared of risk | 0:47:13 | 0:47:15 | |
and they're trying an exercise to force him to confront his fear. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:18 | |
Ade, when you have traded it's been good. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:20 | |
But it's still only one trade a day. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:23 | |
You've got seven different assets to choose from - | 0:47:23 | 0:47:25 | |
if I haven't seen you get in a position, | 0:47:25 | 0:47:27 | |
then I'm going to come over and get you in a position, | 0:47:27 | 0:47:30 | |
and in a larger size. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:32 | |
Will and Piers now have to apply their own risk management skills | 0:47:36 | 0:47:40 | |
in deciding who to back on the live market with their own money. | 0:47:40 | 0:47:44 | |
# Catch a falling star... # | 0:47:44 | 0:47:46 | |
-OK. -Yeah. -So... | 0:47:46 | 0:47:48 | |
If you speak to Ben he will say to you with a very straight face, | 0:47:48 | 0:47:51 | |
"I am not an emotional trader, it doesn't affect me, | 0:47:51 | 0:47:54 | |
"I have a very calm approach to my decisions," | 0:47:54 | 0:47:56 | |
when actually he is one of the most emotional traders I know, | 0:47:56 | 0:48:00 | |
-because he's so competitive. -Yeah. | 0:48:00 | 0:48:02 | |
He's going to find that a struggle. | 0:48:02 | 0:48:04 | |
-Let's move on to... -Ade. | 0:48:04 | 0:48:06 | |
Still with a very good attitude, but painfully cautious. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:09 | |
We had a good chat, and he said, "I understand things now, | 0:48:09 | 0:48:12 | |
"I'm really going to start to push it out". He hasn't. | 0:48:12 | 0:48:15 | |
Ade has been forced into a large trade on the German share index, | 0:48:15 | 0:48:19 | |
the DAX - the most unpredictable and tricky to trade. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:23 | |
He's sitting on his biggest ever loss. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:26 | |
3,587. | 0:48:26 | 0:48:29 | |
It's been really, really, really emotionally draining. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:33 | |
OK, Carlos. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:35 | |
He's trading nine markets at the same time, there. | 0:48:35 | 0:48:38 | |
-Yeah. -I mean, that's impossible. | 0:48:38 | 0:48:40 | |
I couldn't do that. | 0:48:40 | 0:48:42 | |
-He has no fear. -But I think in the long run he's benefitted | 0:48:42 | 0:48:46 | |
from the fact that he's been very active, in that he's learnt a lot. | 0:48:46 | 0:48:49 | |
While Will and Piers have been deciding who to back | 0:48:50 | 0:48:53 | |
with their money, Ade's spent nearly five hours in his losing DAX trade. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:57 | |
We forced him into this to really open his eyes a little bit. | 0:48:58 | 0:49:02 | |
He's recovering some of the loss now - | 0:49:02 | 0:49:04 | |
he's 2,500 euros down now rather than 3. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:08 | |
But he's not enjoying it. | 0:49:08 | 0:49:09 | |
What happened today with that DAX position - | 0:49:09 | 0:49:12 | |
do you think that has opened your eyes a little bit, | 0:49:12 | 0:49:15 | |
or do you think that's made you more fearful of having trades on | 0:49:15 | 0:49:21 | |
in volatile markets? | 0:49:21 | 0:49:23 | |
It goes either way. | 0:49:23 | 0:49:24 | |
Yeah, well, this is what I'm worried about, | 0:49:24 | 0:49:26 | |
cos at the moment - like, last week you traded once all week. | 0:49:26 | 0:49:30 | |
It's not enough for us to put you on the live market. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:34 | |
-You need more exposure to trades. -Yeah, definitely. | 0:49:34 | 0:49:38 | |
-Yeah? -Mm. -OK. | 0:49:38 | 0:49:40 | |
So, here's what's going to happen. Next week you're going live. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:45 | |
-Right! -OK? -OK. | 0:49:45 | 0:49:47 | |
But... | 0:49:48 | 0:49:51 | |
narrow down the markets you're looking at. | 0:49:51 | 0:49:53 | |
Very good month one, bit of a dip in month two, | 0:49:55 | 0:49:58 | |
but you've come back, and I think... | 0:49:58 | 0:50:00 | |
I think you're ready for the live market. | 0:50:00 | 0:50:03 | |
-Lovely. -And we will kick on from here. | 0:50:03 | 0:50:06 | |
I shall make us both some money. | 0:50:06 | 0:50:08 | |
-There we are. -Deal. -Good plan. | 0:50:08 | 0:50:10 | |
-All right. Good stuff. -Thank you very much indeed. | 0:50:10 | 0:50:12 | |
The successful trainees are a step closer | 0:50:14 | 0:50:16 | |
to joining the ranks | 0:50:16 | 0:50:18 | |
of one of the most financially rewarding professions in the world. | 0:50:18 | 0:50:21 | |
As well as her many other commitments, | 0:50:25 | 0:50:27 | |
Karen's also on the board of a major charitable foundation. | 0:50:27 | 0:50:30 | |
36? | 0:50:30 | 0:50:31 | |
She's on her way to one of its biggest fund raising nights, | 0:50:33 | 0:50:36 | |
which attracts plenty of Wall Street movers and shakers. | 0:50:36 | 0:50:39 | |
So tonight is the Michael J Fox poker event. | 0:50:39 | 0:50:44 | |
Not really understanding the game well enough, | 0:50:44 | 0:50:46 | |
I don't know how to play, and I don't want to lose money. | 0:50:46 | 0:50:49 | |
If it's for charity, OK, I'll lose money. | 0:50:49 | 0:50:50 | |
After he was diagnosed with Parkinson's at the age of 30, | 0:50:53 | 0:50:56 | |
actor Michael J Fox set up a foundation | 0:50:56 | 0:50:59 | |
to find a cure for the disease. | 0:50:59 | 0:51:01 | |
So far it has funded 450 million worth of research. | 0:51:01 | 0:51:06 | |
You get much more satisfaction out of philanthropy | 0:51:06 | 0:51:10 | |
than buying something, and the Michael Fox Foundation, | 0:51:10 | 0:51:15 | |
I think, does it in a very smart way. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:17 | |
It is very businesslike, it's very scientific. | 0:51:17 | 0:51:21 | |
They want to find a cure and go out of business. | 0:51:21 | 0:51:24 | |
Like any good gamblers, we hedge our bets by plying you with alcohol, | 0:51:24 | 0:51:27 | |
-so... -LAUGHTER | 0:51:27 | 0:51:28 | |
Have fun everybody, good luck, let's deal... | 0:51:28 | 0:51:31 | |
All right, here we go! | 0:51:31 | 0:51:32 | |
Definitely a big Wall Street crowd. | 0:51:33 | 0:51:35 | |
You know, there's sort of an intellectual element to poker | 0:51:35 | 0:51:38 | |
that I think is appealing to a lot of Wall Streeters, | 0:51:38 | 0:51:41 | |
mostly hedge fund guys. | 0:51:41 | 0:51:43 | |
Oh, wow. | 0:51:43 | 0:51:45 | |
Just like trading, | 0:51:45 | 0:51:47 | |
poker is a contest of skill, risk and reward. | 0:51:47 | 0:51:50 | |
Reading the odds and your opponent are crucial to success. | 0:51:50 | 0:51:54 | |
-He has an ace. -He has what? -He has an ace. | 0:51:54 | 0:51:56 | |
And you know that why? | 0:51:56 | 0:51:58 | |
This guy has... | 0:51:58 | 0:52:00 | |
'The guy who is sitting to my left...' | 0:52:00 | 0:52:03 | |
he's actually been fairly helpful. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:05 | |
But I got him snowed - he thinks I don't know what I'm doing. | 0:52:05 | 0:52:08 | |
Didn't I fold already? | 0:52:08 | 0:52:10 | |
-Fold in two. -OK. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:12 | |
The tournament winner was Karen's poker buddy, | 0:52:12 | 0:52:15 | |
hedge funder Justin Lepone. | 0:52:15 | 0:52:17 | |
The night raised more than half a million dollars. | 0:52:19 | 0:52:22 | |
VIDEO PLAYS | 0:52:26 | 0:52:28 | |
At Amplify, six of the ten trainees have been launched onto the markets | 0:52:28 | 0:52:33 | |
with real money. | 0:52:33 | 0:52:34 | |
I feel more relaxed with it being real money. | 0:52:34 | 0:52:36 | |
I actually found the idea of getting uptight about a concept | 0:52:36 | 0:52:39 | |
curiously uptight-making - which sounds bizarre. | 0:52:39 | 0:52:43 | |
I'm happier to have something concrete and real. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:47 | |
Ben has performed so well that the size of his trades has been doubled. | 0:52:48 | 0:52:52 | |
Still uncomfortable with risk, Ade has not progressed to trading live. | 0:52:54 | 0:52:59 | |
He's decided to call it a day, and that his career lies elsewhere. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:04 | |
The trading in itself was becoming very, very difficult, | 0:53:04 | 0:53:07 | |
and I just thought, "You know what? I've had enough, I should move on." | 0:53:07 | 0:53:12 | |
It gets pretty tough pretty quickly. | 0:53:12 | 0:53:15 | |
Financial markets don't take any prisoners, | 0:53:15 | 0:53:17 | |
so if you're not 100% ready then there's no point. | 0:53:17 | 0:53:21 | |
-Can I get a black Americano, please? -Of course you can, young man. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:28 | |
There was concern that an overactive Carlos might be a risk | 0:53:28 | 0:53:31 | |
when trading with Amplify's funds. | 0:53:31 | 0:53:33 | |
But instead, he froze. | 0:53:33 | 0:53:36 | |
He morphed into a completely different individual. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:40 | |
Carlos, as many do, fell over | 0:53:40 | 0:53:44 | |
just purely for the psychological pressures of dealing with real risk | 0:53:44 | 0:53:48 | |
rather than simulated risk. | 0:53:48 | 0:53:50 | |
-Thank you very much, Maria. -You're welcome. -Cheers. | 0:53:50 | 0:53:54 | |
I lost the first trade I did with their cash. | 0:53:54 | 0:53:57 | |
I lost 40, and it hurt me like it was like 40,000. | 0:53:57 | 0:53:59 | |
I was really struggling | 0:53:59 | 0:54:01 | |
with the thought of trading with someone else's cash. | 0:54:01 | 0:54:04 | |
Preferring to take the risk on himself, | 0:54:04 | 0:54:07 | |
Carlos has now switched to trading his own funds, | 0:54:07 | 0:54:10 | |
which has brought about a further transformation. | 0:54:10 | 0:54:13 | |
The first day of this change Carlos had his best ever day. | 0:54:13 | 0:54:18 | |
He made well over 500 - in fact, that week was his best ever week, | 0:54:18 | 0:54:23 | |
so it's amazing what that can do. | 0:54:23 | 0:54:26 | |
I feel more empowered by using my own funds. | 0:54:26 | 0:54:30 | |
I think I can do it - but you cannot just come to the office | 0:54:32 | 0:54:35 | |
and just click on a button. This is a long-term game. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:38 | |
DRILL WHIRS | 0:54:46 | 0:54:49 | |
Monday night, you should have these stairs completely framed. | 0:54:49 | 0:54:52 | |
During his 35 years as a Chicago pit trader, | 0:54:52 | 0:54:55 | |
Bob has had to adapt to massive changes in the markets. | 0:54:55 | 0:54:59 | |
Now he's planning a future away from the floor. | 0:55:00 | 0:55:03 | |
He's investing 2.5 million into turning a former car workshop | 0:55:03 | 0:55:07 | |
into a microbrewery. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:08 | |
Starting as a trader at such an early age, | 0:55:09 | 0:55:12 | |
you end up really depending on your ability see problems and solve them, | 0:55:12 | 0:55:17 | |
so the idea that this as a project would be beyond me | 0:55:17 | 0:55:20 | |
never occurred to me, | 0:55:20 | 0:55:21 | |
and I also think that once you get to a position | 0:55:21 | 0:55:25 | |
where you are a little more comfortable with risk | 0:55:25 | 0:55:28 | |
on a personal level, | 0:55:28 | 0:55:30 | |
the idea of risks aren't as scary. | 0:55:30 | 0:55:34 | |
I've traded for so long, | 0:55:34 | 0:55:36 | |
I've reached a point in my life where I think I'm ready to stop. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:40 | |
I sound like a heroin addict, but I do have a lot riding on this. | 0:55:40 | 0:55:44 | |
I have a lot of money bet on this and I hope this is busy enough | 0:55:44 | 0:55:48 | |
and successful enough that I won't have the time or energy to trade. | 0:55:48 | 0:55:51 | |
Everyone, take a spot. You can come on in. | 0:55:55 | 0:55:58 | |
Everyone, you can take a seat and eat inside. | 0:55:58 | 0:56:00 | |
After 30 years on the floor, | 0:56:00 | 0:56:02 | |
Virginia too is thinking about moving on. | 0:56:02 | 0:56:05 | |
So there are four generations here today | 0:56:05 | 0:56:07 | |
to honour my mother on Mother's Day. | 0:56:07 | 0:56:09 | |
We're here at the yacht club trying to enjoy a nice afternoon lunch. | 0:56:09 | 0:56:14 | |
No fewer than 12 McGatheys have worked for the family firm, | 0:56:14 | 0:56:17 | |
including many of Virginia's nieces and nephews. | 0:56:17 | 0:56:20 | |
What we've learned most in my family is we know how to make things happen | 0:56:20 | 0:56:24 | |
because of being there. | 0:56:24 | 0:56:26 | |
My grandma calls it shifting - you have to shift, | 0:56:26 | 0:56:28 | |
and it's the Board of Trade culture, it has shaped us all. | 0:56:28 | 0:56:33 | |
With trade moving away from the floor, | 0:56:35 | 0:56:38 | |
Virginia's planning to use her skills | 0:56:38 | 0:56:40 | |
to start a new family business in renewable energy. | 0:56:40 | 0:56:43 | |
Energy is a commodity, it's a consumable good and I know that, | 0:56:45 | 0:56:50 | |
I know that business, I know that industry | 0:56:50 | 0:56:52 | |
and everyone, I think, in the end | 0:56:52 | 0:56:55 | |
looks to find a way to be significant. | 0:56:55 | 0:56:57 | |
McGathey, whoo! | 0:56:57 | 0:56:59 | |
NEWS REPORTERS: 'New figures show Britain's services sector...' | 0:56:59 | 0:57:02 | |
'There's been panic on the stock markets this morning, | 0:57:02 | 0:57:04 | |
-'with shares dropping...' -After four months of training, | 0:57:04 | 0:57:07 | |
Ben finally feels ready to trade with his own money from home. | 0:57:07 | 0:57:10 | |
BELL RINGS | 0:57:10 | 0:57:12 | |
-Today, his new equipment is arriving. -Hello? | 0:57:12 | 0:57:16 | |
All right, brilliant, coming down. Thanks a lot. Cheers. | 0:57:16 | 0:57:19 | |
'Very excited, yeah. This has always been the end goal. | 0:57:21 | 0:57:24 | |
'Today, a gleaming four-screen system will be arriving.' | 0:57:24 | 0:57:28 | |
Hi, there, how are you doing? | 0:57:28 | 0:57:29 | |
'I am looking forward to it | 0:57:29 | 0:57:31 | |
'and now it's with my own money, so it's even more important.' | 0:57:31 | 0:57:34 | |
He has been dreaming of it | 0:57:34 | 0:57:36 | |
and I'm glad he finally found the right thing to do. | 0:57:36 | 0:57:39 | |
Fairly straightforward-looking diagram. | 0:57:39 | 0:57:42 | |
'I always expected myself to do well and then you allow yourself | 0:57:42 | 0:57:46 | |
'to get a bit cocky and that's when you get bitten. | 0:57:46 | 0:57:50 | |
'It's a game of emotion | 0:57:50 | 0:57:51 | |
'and it's going to take me a long time to get really good at it.' | 0:57:51 | 0:57:55 | |
And voila. | 0:57:57 | 0:57:58 | |
-The wings of financial opportunity. -Ah, it's funny, huh? | 0:57:58 | 0:58:02 | |
-Cool. -Yeah, that's exciting. | 0:58:02 | 0:58:04 | |
And hopefully it's going to be fruitful. | 0:58:05 | 0:58:07 | |
There, in front of me on the desk, is my future, and I can't wait. | 0:58:07 | 0:58:12 | |
MUSIC: I Need A Dollar by Aloe Blacc | 0:58:12 | 0:58:14 | |
Next time, the digital revolution that has enabled anyone | 0:58:17 | 0:58:21 | |
to join the trading elite, | 0:58:21 | 0:58:22 | |
by playing the markets from home. | 0:58:22 | 0:58:24 | |
You can either look like a trader or actually be one. | 0:58:24 | 0:58:28 | |
But can they really beat the pros at their own game? | 0:58:28 | 0:58:31 | |
My account value is 1.6 million. | 0:58:31 | 0:58:34 | |
I can't believe how easy it is to make money | 0:58:34 | 0:58:37 | |
# I need a dollar, dollar | 0:58:38 | 0:58:40 | |
# Dollar, that's what I need, hey, hey | 0:58:40 | 0:58:43 | |
# Well, I need a dollar, dollar | 0:58:43 | 0:58:45 | |
# Dollar, that's what I need, hey, hey | 0:58:45 | 0:58:48 | |
# Said I need a dollar, dollar | 0:58:48 | 0:58:50 | |
# Dollar, that's what I need | 0:58:50 | 0:58:52 | |
# And if I share with you my story | 0:58:52 | 0:58:55 | |
# Would you share your dollar with me? | 0:58:55 | 0:58:58 | |
# Bad times are coming | 0:58:58 | 0:59:00 | |
# And I reap what I don't sow, hey, hey | 0:59:00 | 0:59:04 | |
# Well, let me tell you something - all that glitters ain't gold... # | 0:59:04 | 0:59:07 |