Karl Jenkins


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Karl Jenkins is undoubtedly a worldwide success

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and he's written for our times.

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He's done some wonderful compositions

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and I think it just appeals to people.

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There is something about Karl's music that touches

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a lot of people's hearts.

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His music is powerful

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because he's able to convey deep emotions that lie within all of us,

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and somehow resonate and communicate with people across a wide spectrum.

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It's very easy to write a piece of music that 40 people think is fantastic.

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It's very difficult to write a piece of music that

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holds onto its integrity, and holds onto its meaning,

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and millions of people admire.

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Karl Jenkins is Britain's most successful and best-selling classical composer,

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with his music dominating the contemporary classical scene.

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But his route to classical acclaim has not been a traditional path

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and, although classically trained,

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it was as a jazz rock pioneer in the '70s and then the heyday of the '80s advertising boom

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where he first made his name.

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Karl is without doubt the composer of our time.

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Karl was born on the Gower.

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His father was Welsh, his mother half-Swedish.

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It was a musical upbringing in the small coastal village of Penclawdd.

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Penclawdd is quite unique, I think.

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Language-wise, it's a split village -

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English and Welsh are equally spoken, I believe.

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My family weren't Welsh-speaking.

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This is a photograph of my father in his concert gear.

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Schoolteacher by profession, but a musician at weekends.

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There was always music in the house,

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either him playing, or LP - as they were then - albums.

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My grandmother was a cockle picker

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who used to go to Newport every weekend to sell cockles.

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She met my grandfather there who was a Swedish sailor,

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of a Swedish ship.

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And he stayed and they got married.

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He settled in South Wales and my mother was born.

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A photograph of my mother taken some years before I was born.

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In fact, we went to live in Sweden when I was very young because she had tuberculosis.

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It was thought that the air would be better for her there.

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So, in fact, I actually learnt Swedish before I learnt English,

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insomuch at that age, whatever you can learn at that age

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and, sadly, she died when I was four or five.

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These are my two Welsh grandparents.

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When my mother died, my father and I moved in with her

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and my widowed aunt Evelyn.

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So they kind of raised me, with my father.

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So I had a lot of kind of love and family atmosphere,

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family love, around me,

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so it was a happy childhood, despite the loss of my mother.

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Karl's musical upbringing through his early years at Gowerton Grammar,

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and in the youth orchestras, were to cement his career in music.

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Well, it was always by a process of elimination, I suppose, I ended up being a musician.

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I never thought about it too much.

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I did music for O level and then it was one of three for A level

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and then I had to decide.

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It wasn't a decision and so it was, er,

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kind of predestined in a way, without being precious about it.

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I just did it and applied to University of Wales Cardiff,

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Cardiff University, and went there.

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Then later, after postgraduate, to the Royal Academy in London.

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Although Karl and his wife Carol travel

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the world for appearances and performances,

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they split their time between their flat in London and their home on the Gower.

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I was living in a flat in Westbourne Grove

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and there was a Welsh trombone player in the flat below.

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He kept talking about this Karl Jenkins,

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and he'd been on the radio doing jazz.

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So the first time I actually met him was on the stairs.

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He was very thin and had a white scarf wrapped several times around him,

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and he was a chain smoker then.

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And I thought he was decidedly odd.

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The first actual big date was in Highgate Cemetery

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cos Karl's really big on cemeteries!

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And I can remember he was wearing this white suit,

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and we were just walking amongst the graves, as if that was the norm.

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He had nothing, really.

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He didn't have a car, his jacket had fallen off the back of a lorry, I suppose.

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Erm, but he was always very passionate about music.

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We've been together 38 years this year,

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and I've watched him as his career has got bigger and bigger,

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and I think it really is all down to respect,

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because I respect and admire what he does enormously,

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and I'm very involved in it.

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And he, in my own little way, he admires what I do,

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in the mostly educational music world.

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Karl's musical style is impossible to categorise,

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but one who knows him,

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who has worked with him over the years whilst at Classic FM and EMI,

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is current chief executive of the Welsh Rugby Union Roger Lewis.

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I suppose I first encountered Karl in the '70s,

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with bands such as Nucleus and Soft Machine.

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But it wasn't until later years that I discovered that Karl

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was this Welshman from Gowerton, from Penclawdd,

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with this great passion for Wales and things Welsh,

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that was that member of that particular group.

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When I first heard them, I thought they were amazing.

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I mean, we both had a classical education, musically,

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but Karl had gone off into the jazz area,

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and I was absolutely in awe of these people,

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because I could never do what they do.

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I mean, I think you're born with that gift.

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Different parts of music you can learn.

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You could almost learn to be a conductor, dare I say,

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but with jazz, you've either got it or you haven't.

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Without doubt, Karl is a musician who's got a huge, huge hunger

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for searching out new and different sounds.

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He is truly a creative musical anthropologist, I suppose.

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And that's been shown throughout all of his work,

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and you could see those early roots

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in those jazz fusion days of the '70s.

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It was the next step in his career which took Karl even further away

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from a more traditional route to classical acclaim,

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and also signalled the beginning of his commercial classical success.

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It was here in the '80s boom of the ad world that Karl made a name for himself,

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revolutionising the future of TV commercials

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and working with one of the most successful ad agencies, Bartle Bogle Hegarty.

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Although I work in advertising, I don't live in advertising.

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I want people who aren't going to write advertising music for me.

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I don't want that. I don't want a jingle.

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I want a piece of music that people go,

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"Wow! I want to go back and listen to that again and again."

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Back in sort of '83, '84, we were working on some Levi's projects,

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and we'd written this sort of script about

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a guy smuggling jeans into the Soviet Union,

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and what I wanted was a piece of Soviet music to start it with that,

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when it was revealed that it was Levi's he was smuggling in,

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it resolved itself into a modern piece of music.

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And sort of talking to Karl and listening to how he spoke,

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and how he talked about the music,

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I began to realise this man was classically trained.

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And you sort of stand back slightly... "Ah.

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"I think he really knows what he's talking about, John.

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"Maybe you'd better..."

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So it was wonderful work and I love working with people like that.

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Television commercials then were of a pretty high standard.

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I mean, very, what became iconic film directors worked in the medium,

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and I worked on films by people like Ridley Scott and Alan Parker.

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People like this were working in the genre, really.

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So I got used to discipline then,

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cos it had to be delivered on a certain day, by a certain time, and recorded.

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If it didn't, well, you didn't work.

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You didn't get paid and didn't work again.

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Great creative people are ciphers.

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They absorb all the stuff around them.

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They absorb things and it comes out of them, in some shape or form.

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And I think that's what Karl has.

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He has this ability to sense what's going on around him

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and reinterpret it as a piece of music.

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And I think that's what makes great creative people.

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Karl was making a name for himself

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and creating a new style of musical soundtrack for advertising campaigns.

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He was then approached to make a commercial for Delta Airlines.

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An album based on Delta Airlines theme Adiemus was then released

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and became an instant success,

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and resulted in more than 3 million album sales worldwide.

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It introduced Karl to a new and appreciative audience,

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and captured the imagination

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of many of the world's top artists and performers.

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I think I first became aware of Karl's music really through television

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and I remember seeing Adiemus

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and this word coming up so many times

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I was thinking, "What is this? What is this?"

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And then I experienced sort of clips of the music,

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and I was so intrigued by that, that I then tried to find out

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where performances might be, where recordings may be and so on.

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And to discover that this music was written, in fact,

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by a British composer...

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And that was really when I first became aware of Karl's music

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and I was really, truly intrigued by that.

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There was just something about this piece

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that just simply planted that seed of curiosity.

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The first time that I heard Karl Jenkins's music was

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when I started travelling to America from Manchester Airport.

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I always used to use a certain airline which had Karl's Adiemus

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constantly playing whilst you were on the plane,

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boarding and when you arrived at different cities.

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And I was instantly interested and curious to who had composed

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such beautiful tones, beautiful melodies, very catchy melodies.

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In a way, the simplicity was magical

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and the almost childlike progression of certain harmonies was so magical and priceless

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that you found that that was a gift you were given forever more.

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The trouble is in our culture,

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when you put the word popular with creative,

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it somehow demeans it.

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And that, to me, is a great tragedy. It's a great shame.

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And there's a terrible, terrible snobbishness about that.

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And I think the creative work I appreciate is work that

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has an integrity, it has a power and meaning to it, yet it's inclusive.

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And that's what we mean by popular. It is including people.

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And, actually, I challenge people to say that is actually the hardest thing to do.

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It's very easy to write a piece of music that 40 people think is fantastic.

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It's very difficult to write a piece of music that holds onto its integrity, holds onto its meaning,

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and millions of people admire.

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That's what's very difficult.

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People knock advertising but it's such a skill to conjure up

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a mood and a picture in, like, 30 seconds.

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There's a real craft in doing that.

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There is a feeling in the classical musical industry

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that if it sells, it can't be any good.

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And people can be very snobbish about film composers

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and people who've come to the more serious side of classical music

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from pop or jingles or whatever.

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I think that it's very important to realise that, actually,

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there is no merit in that at all,

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because Shostakovich, for example, was a very eminent film writer,

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Walton... I mean, many, many composers have written film music,

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and they are greatly regarded today.

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So anybody, any contemporary composer,

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who can actually find an audience gets my respect,

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not just for commercial reasons, but for creative ones, too.

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As to him starting off commercially,

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or starting off in the field hat he's in,

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I don't think it makes very much difference.

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He created a piece of music and the commercial company took it up, so...

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I mean, I've been in things that were commercial as well.

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It doesn't mean to say I was anything different than what I am,

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just a classical singer.

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And he's a lovely composer.

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Karl's career path has since followed a more traditional route,

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but has never been predictable.

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His musical collaborations and classical compositions

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read like a Who's Who of the classical world,

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from Dame Kiri Te Kanawa to Julian Lloyd Webber.

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I think Karl has a gift which...

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People kind of think it's an easy gift,

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but he can write very catchy things.

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He can write things with hooks on them

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and people instantly remember it.

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And that sounds easy, but it isn't,

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and Karl definitely has that in spades.

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I think that making a connection and communicating with an audience

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is what it's all about, essentially.

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And many, nowadays, don't do that.

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They don't make an emotional connection,

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which is possibly why I'm not liked in certain circles,

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because I write accessible music that is emotional

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and does appeal to people.

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I mean, some critic said to me once that I was emotionally manipulative,

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which I think is quite a nice thing to say!

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I'm quite proud of that, actually.

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If I actually can, you know, make people's emotions change,

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cos that's what I do.

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So, yes, making a connection with an audience is crucially important.

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One of Karl's most highly acclaimed and most popular pieces is

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The Armed Man: A Mass For Peace.

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With its haunting cello solo, Benedictus,

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it has made Karl the world's most-performed living composer.

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The idea behind the piece was they wanted a work,

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calling it A Mass For Peace,

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that told the story and the horrors of conflict,

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but which looked forward towards a better future for mankind in 2000,

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hoping for a century of peace and, of course,

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it hasn't kicked off too well, this last 10 years, cos nothing's changed.

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The piece is actually dedicated to the victims of Kosovo

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because when I was writing it in 1999 or whenever,

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just leading up to 2000,

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that was the Iraq or Afghanistan of the day, if you like.

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Erm, and one was constantly reminded of the horrors

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that were taking place in the Balkans.

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So I decided to dedicate it to

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the memory of the victims of that conflict.

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People respond to his music,

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whether they're grieving, whether they're happy.

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All different kinds of reasons and different emotions.

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And he has amazing letters and e-mails from people. I mean...

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It makes me want to cry, thinking about it, but, um,

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a lady whose mother was murdered tragically, Christmas Day,

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and she found enormous solace in

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the Benedictus from The Armed Man, the mass,

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and she just kept playing it and felt strengthened by it, really.

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I remember I was standing in a record shop,

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when they used to have record shops,

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and this little old lady came up to me and recognised me.

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And she said her husband had just died and she wanted...

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She was trying to find this beautiful cello piece with a choir,

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and did I know what it was?

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As soon as she said that, I knew what it was.

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And I think there is something about Karl's music

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that touches a lot of people's hearts.

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So that's why he's an international composer.

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It's a very difficult thing to write music which has a serious purpose

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and is trying to make a serious statement,

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especially on some very difficult subjects sometimes,

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if you think about the Balkan War, for example,

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and yet to make it something that can resonate very popularly with people

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because you need melody.

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You need something that is memorable.

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You need something that stays in the mind,

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and yet you also need something

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that is going to create a dynamic, energetic impact.

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Very few people can do it and Karl is certainly one of them.

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The Armed Man, with its resonance and relevance to modern-day conflict,

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played a significant role in the tenth anniversary of 9/11,

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accompanied by the UK's largest choral society.

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It was amazing coincidence that

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the piece I'm performing in New York, on 9/11,

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The Armed Man: A Mass For Peace

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was actually released on the very day of 9/11.

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When we were thinking about what repertoire to schedule for this,

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the tenth anniversary, 9/11, New York,

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we knew that we wanted to have Karl involved.

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We've done so many of his different works

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that they all would have worked, but it was just...

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It's, again, difficult to put into words,

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but The Armed Man just rose to the surface immediately,

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because of the emotion, because of the ties to strife and war,

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and how that leads to peace and hope.

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And that's what we're trying to do today.

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# A shroud that mushroomed out

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# And struck the dawn of the sky... #

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# Black, red, blue

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# Dance in the air... #

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I'm very emotional about it all.

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I haven't been able to sing one of the pieces without crying,

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to be honest. But I do...

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I think the horror of what happened,

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the number of people who died in the way they died,

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and the number of people who were never found...

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I find it...heartbreaking,

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quite honestly.

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# Quivering like seaweed, the mass of flames spurts forward. #

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It's such an honour to work with Karl Jenkins.

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Karl is actually the most-performed living composer

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of serious music alive today.

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And we are delighted to be here.

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# The trumpet's loud clangour excites us to arms

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# Excites us to arms

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# Excites us to arms

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# The trumpet's loud clangour excites us to arms

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# Excites us to arms

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# Excites us to arms... #

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One audience member - she was nearly in tears, which was lovely.

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She had seen one of the Twin Towers come down, actually,

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from her flat ten years ago.

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So she had come to this performance,

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and she said she was really moved by it and thanked us, which was nice.

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It's been something to allow us to reflect and to, you know,

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remember where we were when it happened,

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and I think the slogan 'never forget' is something

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that we should try to live by, not just for things like 9/11,

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but for other really big pillars of national and international significance

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for our countries as we grow, and then also as individuals,

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as we, you know, become better people because of the circumstances.

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It was a hugely moving experience.

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It was a full house and a huge reaction at the end,

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so it'll stay with me for ever, really, that whole experience.

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And being in New York at that period as well had a...

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not strange, but it had an emotional, tangible feel to it, you know,

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to the ambience and the atmosphere, really.

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At the moment, we're in Gower, where I live when I'm not in London,

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in my studio, which is where I work.

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But I work in London and I work wherever. I can work anywhere.

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All I need is my basic materials which, nowadays,

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comprise a keyboard and my laptop.

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It's beautiful here and it's kind of idyllic kind of area.

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But that actually has no bearing on what I write.

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As long as I have these basic tools, that's fine.

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I'm very disciplined, yeah, and I also don't believe in inspiration.

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It's a job of work in one sense.

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I rise very early, usually, 5 o'clock, and do a few hours.

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I rest in the afternoon and do a couple more hours,

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and then have the evening off.

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That's usually my daily pattern, but I find if you don't do it,

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it's no good kind of wandering around,

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waiting for the muse to hit, or whatever.

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You have to do it. And the more you do it, the easier it gets, you know.

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It's like anything else creative. You have good days and bad days.

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So the good days are kind of...

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Progress is, is...kind of rapid, I suppose. You can work quickly.

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And then the other days - it takes longer.

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From the land of storytellers,

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this is a story of the land itself and of the peoples who've shaped it.

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One of Karl's major projects for 2012 was composing the title music

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for the landmark BBC Wales series, The Story Of Wales.

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SOARING ORCHESTRAL MUSIC PLAYS

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What we want more than anything is a music which is epic in its sweep,

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which is powerful and which conveys, if you like, an arc of Welsh history.

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That 30,000 years compressed into six hours. You need that sense of power.

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Who are you going to turn to?

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Well, there is only one person, in my view, that you turn to.

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That is Karl.

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Because he has the knack of making music that is popular

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but is also epic and significant in a statement he tries to make.

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The brief was it had to have slightly epic,

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convey the panorama of countryside

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and in particular Welsh countryside, I suppose.

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So I had to come up with a theme that had those qualities.

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I'm happy to say that they liked what I presented.

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What he's come up with something that is both beautiful and majestic,

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fits the bill exactly.

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And, key thing, very memorable.

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Music has always taken centre stage in the Jenkins household,

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so it was a thriving environment for Carol and Karl

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to bring up their son, Jody,

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who would also go on to forge his own career

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in the music industry as a percussionist

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and also a successful composer for film and television.

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Take a seat.

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I'll play you some stuff.

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It was natural our son,

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he inherited whatever genes we have in that direction.

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He was a very successful percussionist,

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won a scholarship at the Royal Academy,

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and then changed to composition. He's now writing film music.

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Growing up in the Jenkins household

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was certainly very musically orientated.

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I started having piano lessons at a very young age,

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three or four with my mother.

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It wasn't so much that I was always practising,

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it's just that music was always around the house.

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I certainly remember being a lazy teenager in bed and being able

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to hear two pianos being thumped downstairs in different rooms.

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One from each of my two parent composers.

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He has a similar outlook to me in many ways in that he also

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doesn't put music in categories or compartments, as does Carol,

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my wife is exactly the same.

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We've a very broad outlook on different musical styles

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and genres and appreciate music in different spheres, really.

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We wrote a children's opera together, which was a nightmare.

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Divorce was imminent because it took three months of me saying,

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"Well, I'm not changing the words."

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And he'd say, "I'm not changing the music."

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But if you mentioned that to him now

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he wouldn't recollect that it was difficult at all.

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And even Jody, I was writing some piano music one day

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and he heard one bar and said, "I don't like that bar, mum."

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Of course I said, "What do you mean you don't like that bar?"

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But of course I did change it.

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So the three of us, we listen to what the other person is saying.

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Looking back, I suppose it was quite inevitable,

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but I certainly wasn't pushed into music.

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It was just that it was always around me

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and always around the house.

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I think I was made to feel that it was a worthwhile thing

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to pursue at a hobby or amateur level.

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And the passion just grew from there really.

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Professionally, we've worked on many great things together.

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Perhaps less so now, but early on I contributed lots of percussion

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and production work to some of Adiemus project

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and some of his other albums.

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It was very gratifying.

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It was a pleasure to work with him in that way.

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We still do the occasional thing together. It's a lot of fun.

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And perhaps it's Karl's experience of collaborating

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with his closest family which may have contributed

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to the way others feel about working with him.

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He's a very quiet man. You don't have any flying saucers.

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There is not a sort of firework display at every corner.

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He's just very unassuming and very quiet.

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He's not mad, he's not eccentric I don't think. He's not a fireball.

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But he quietly does this wonderful music.

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He is very easy to work with.

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He's very charming and his family are wonderful, too.

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As for waiting an atomic bomb to go off every day,

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it just doesn't happen.

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But the stuff is all in his music, that's where it should be.

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I want to work more with Karl. He's a very astute composer.

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He's a gentleman, he's a scholar, he's very quiet.

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But yet when he has something to say to you,

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especially in the recording department when he's producing,

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he tells you what should be said.

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He has no qualms about saying, "You were flat, you were sharp,

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"you were behind the beat, you were in front of the beat."

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And the collaboration, that's what music is all about,

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people working together.

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MUSIC: FANFARA from THE PEACEMAKERS

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In 2012, a major new work by Karl, The Peacemakers,

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achieved another major commercial success

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by going straight in at number one to the UK classical charts.

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CHOIR SINGS 'FANFARA' FROM THE PEACEMAKERS

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The text is drawn from iconic peacemakers

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like Gandhi, Mandela, Martin Luther King, Dalai Lama.

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Even Terry Waite has contributed some text.

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I met Karl at the Eisteddfod.

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We were chatting together and he said to me,

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what are you doing now?

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I said, "I'm writing a new book, and I'm writing a book of poetry."

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Now that, his ears pricked up. He said, "Oh, that's very interesting.

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"I'm currently writing a work on peace. Are you interested in that?"

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I said I was very interested in it. I said, "I'd love to hear it."

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He said, "Would you like to contribute towards it?"

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We've got works in there from people far greater than myself,

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from Ghandi, Desmond Tutu, or whoever, Mother Teresa.

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I said, "I don't think I'm their scale

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"but I'll try and write something for you."

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# Peace is the fragile meeting

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# Of two souls in harmony

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# Peace is an embrace

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# That protects and heals

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I went away, wrote a small piece on peace and sent it off to him.

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And then I heard no more for a while.

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Then he came back and said, "It's been recorded,

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"it's been sung by a soprano.

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"The orchestra have now put the whole work together."

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Honestly, I felt so honoured by that.

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# I offer you peace, I offer you love

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# I offer you, offer you friendship

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# I see your beauty

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# I hear your need

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# I feel your feelings

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# My wisdom flows from the highest source

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# I salute that source in you... #

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I'm not a pacifist in the sense I think some wars are justified,

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like the Second World War when Europe was defended by Britain and the Allies.

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But I don't think what's recently been happening in Iraq and elsewhere is justified.

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That's my general view on it.

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But I suppose people logically would welcome peace,

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so in that sense it was important to me.

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But I wasn't on any kind of crusade.

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Karl is a remarkable man. He is remarkably modest.

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He's a great humanitarian.

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And humanitarians have a way of expressing themselves

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through words, through actions.

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Karl expresses his humanitarian understanding through music.

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And his music is powerful

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because he's able to convey deep emotions that lie within all of us.

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And somehow resonate and communicate with people across a wide spectrum.

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SWEEPING VIOLIN MUSIC

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I feel that Karl's music has gained such commercial success because first of all,

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it is completely appropriate to be performed in a live performance

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or as part of a television advert or as part of film music.

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For music to be so adaptable, someone like Bach's music, JS Bach,

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he could do that, and we're doing that with his music today.

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I feel that with Karl's music,

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it will still be around for decades to come, for centuries to come.

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CHOIR SINGS SOFTLY

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CHOIR BUILDS TO CRESCENDO

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To have the experience of seeing the man who actually composed the music.

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If you saw Haydn conducting his own music,

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it's the same sort of experience.

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So that's what I'm looking forward to.

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It's his music, he's interpreting it the way he wants to interpret it.

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SOARING CHORAL MUSIC

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I feel very proud of him.

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He's a true Welshman and he is the future of classical music.

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He writes for our times.

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He writes specific music that people can react to.

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I think that's why people react to his music, and long may it continue.

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FLUTE PLAYS PEACEFULLY

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Many contemporary composers find it quite a struggle

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during their lifetime, but I think he will be remembered through his music.

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I think that he has already left a legacy which is very distinguished.

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The exciting thing is that there's a lot more to come.

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He's certainly not going to give up... Till he pops off.

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Till he pops his clogs he'll be writing dots.

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I'm trying to write ideas that live beyond the borders

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of advertising but actually enter into popular culture.

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And I want to work with people who can do that as well.

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That's what, for me, Karl was able to create.

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For me, he's a composer, he's a musician.

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What kind of musician, what sort of composer?

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I don't know, but he communicates right there.

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He touches the very depths in people.

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Now, how that happens and why that happens, I don't know.

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Some music floats over the top of you.

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You hear it and you don't necessarily, it doesn't touch you.

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You can't listen to Karl's music without being touched by it.

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That is a quality that he has, and all I can say is it's a gift.

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