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Hello. Last autumn, a group of us here at the BBC in Aberdeen | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
started work on a project which we hope will, over the coming weeks, | 0:00:05 | 0:00:10 | |
become a regular part of your viewing. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
Hello, and welcome to Beechgrove Garden. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
Now, I wonder how many times I've said that. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
He's the grandfather of Scottish horticulture. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
Well, he's a lovely person, you know, and he's a bit of a softie. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
He loves the humour of gardening. He just loves the humour of life. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
I made rather a skittish remark | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
and his lovely twinkle came out | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
and he said "Och, ya wee besom!" | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
He's not an intsy-tinsy, just for show gardener, | 0:00:41 | 0:00:45 | |
all that sort of instant gardening programme, | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
they're an anathema to Jim, cos he's a real gardener. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
And every day with Jim is a school day. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
In the late '70s, I, as did millions of you at home, | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
fell madly in love | 0:01:03 | 0:01:04 | |
with a TV programme that appeared on our screens. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
Hosted by Jim McColl and his trusty pal, George Barron, | 0:01:06 | 0:01:10 | |
these guys, with their incredible passion and knowledge of gardening, | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
brought the outside world into our living rooms. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:17 | |
Now, I was fortunate enough to meet Jim further down the line, | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
but it wasn't gardening that brought us together. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
It was music. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:24 | |
Aly Bain and myself were doing a concert in Islay | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
and we got a whisper that the legendary Jim McColl | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
was going to be in the audience. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:30 | |
Little did we know that Jim was actually a long-time fan | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
and when we finished, he came to see us. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
We shared a chat and a dram. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
The next thing I knew, Jim had my accordion strapped on, | 0:01:37 | 0:01:39 | |
I was relegated to piano | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
and concert number two began for the evening. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
Down the years, Jim and I have met many more times, | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
but over the last couple of weeks, | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
I've been able to appreciate Jim the man | 0:01:48 | 0:01:50 | |
a little bit more, as he's taken me, as he would say himself, | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
on a wee dander down the garden path of his life. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
-Well, it'll soon be strawberry time, George. -Aye. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
So we've got to spray 'em, straw 'em... | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
-And net 'em. -And net 'em. -THEY LAUGH | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
After listening to BBC garden programmes, | 0:02:03 | 0:02:08 | |
they suggested burning it, which I did, | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
with disastrous results. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:02:13 | 0:02:14 | |
We take no responsibility for other broadcasters on the BBC. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
I mean, there's a' kinds of funny chiels get on the BBC from time to time! | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
Jim's is such a familiar voice and face. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
Well, he's been part of Scottish culture and family life | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
for over 40 years. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:30 | |
We've all seen him gardening on the telly, | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
but what about the man behind the trowel? | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
-Well, you're getting into a fair snarl. -Aye. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
In this special programme, | 0:02:37 | 0:02:38 | |
we have the chance to examine the life and times | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
of the horticultural broadcasting legend that is Jim McColl. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
I've got a wee swing going here now. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
Well, that is the strangest way to arrive at a community garden. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
An Ayrshire man, | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
Jim was born in Kilmarnock on the 19th September in 1935 | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
and so it was fitting that we began our digging around in Jim's roots | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
in the town of his birth, with one of the passions that has shaped him, | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
the works of our national bard | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
and fellow Ayrshire man, Robert Burns. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
-Isn't this lovely? -Absolutely. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
I suppose I first visited it about 75 years ago! | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
'No sooner had we arrived in Killie, at the Burns Monument Centre, | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
'we were met by Kilmarnock's provost | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
'with an appropriate Burnsian birthday gift for Jim.' | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
So I'd like to present you with a Burns book | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
on behalf of everyone at East Ayrshire Council. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
-That's nice. -You're welcome to Kilmarnock. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
This is the Luath edition. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:37 | |
The provost gives these books out to special people | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
and it's very special, | 0:03:41 | 0:03:42 | |
celebrating your 80th and your welcome to Kilmarnock today. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:46 | |
I'm very grateful, thank you for that. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
I'll never... | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
-forget Kilmarnock. -Not yet. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
-Well deserved, Jim. -Thank you. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:54 | |
And a nice inscription on the inside, too. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
"The simple Bard, "unbroke by rules of art, | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
"he pours the wild effusions of the heart, | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
"and if inspir'd, 'tis nature's pow'rs inspire, | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
"her's all the melting thrill, and her's the kindling fire". | 0:04:05 | 0:04:09 | |
-That's good. -Nothing like a bit of poetry. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
He kind of knew his job, the boy, didn't he? | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
JIM LAUGHS | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
"Fair fa' your honest, sonsie face, | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
"great chieftain o' the..." | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
-Squeeze-box race! -THEY LAUGH | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
I mean, how have you kept Burns with you over the years? | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
-I've done an Immortal Memory in Penang. -Really? -Yes! | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
-I've toasted the haggis... -What bus do you get to Penang? | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
-THEY LAUGH -..toasted the haggis in Cambodia. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
-Gee whizz. -Number one son is out there, you see, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
so there's always, has to be a Burns supper, or something. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
It's getting the haggis there that's the biggest problem. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
Did you fall in love with Burns because it was obligatory, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
because of where you came from, or was it a genuine interest | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
-in the words that he was writing? -Well, I think it grows, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
and as you get older, you begin to see more in the words. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
This looks a bit special. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
I know, it's always exciting to see these old books. | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
I got my little wee 1947, | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
was as far back as I would go, but these are original. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
Wow. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:07 | |
It's got a library ticket, it was due back! | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:05:11 | 0:05:12 | |
1972! | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
Yeah, yeah, yeah. "The twa dogs." | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
-Yeah. -"A Tale." | 0:05:17 | 0:05:18 | |
"I've often wondere'd, honest Luath, | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
"what sort of life poor dogs like you have | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
"and when the gentry's life I saw, | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
"what way poor bodies liv'd ava. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
"Our laird gets in his racked rents, | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
"His coals, his kane, an' a' his stents..." | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
-So, he's describing the life of the nobbery... -Yeah. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
..and, of course, Luath is a wee collie dog | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
with a different view of life, but a bit of a philosopher. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
It's a story of society, | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
the haves and the have-nots | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
and everybody can associate with it. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
Some may look down on it, | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
but in their heart of hearts, this is about man. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
-And do you think... -It's about civility and civilisation. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
Do you think that your connection with Burns' work | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
-has had an effect on the way you've lived your own life? -I think you do. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
I think there's two things, | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
that sort of work and as far as I'm concerned, say, the Bible. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
Take the Bible away | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
and just give me the ten commandments, that'll do me any day. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
There's almost a phrase in the Burns works to cover | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
just about anything and everything we can get involved in. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
Well, "the best laid schemes o' mice an' men gang aft agley." | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
And you'd be forgiven for thinking that I'm down here | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
in supplicant pose, praying for better weather. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
'And how fitting is it that there is yet another appropriate gift, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
'Jim's very own family tree.' | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
Genus McColl. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
Species... | 0:06:43 | 0:06:44 | |
never known! | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
-Holy mackerel! -Look at this. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
Now you can see here that we've got back to Angus McColl, | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
who was your great, great, great grandfather... | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
-Ooh. -..and this book tells the story of your family. | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
So, Angus McColl, as you can see, was a gardener. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:04 | |
Did you know that? | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
It's in the genes. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:07 | |
-I knew it was! -That's amazing. -It tells the full story | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
of your life on the McColl side, the family tree. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:15 | |
What a great thing. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
I thought Facebook was bad. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:07:19 | 0:07:20 | |
How many of these people do you think | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
were involved in gardening, horticulture, agriculture? | 0:07:22 | 0:07:27 | |
There was Father himself and then Mary, who had a market garden, | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
and then there was Willie, who was a farmer | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
and his family are still farming. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
And Uncle Willie was just brilliant and he and I had a great relationship. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
He wanted me to do agriculture, | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
but he'd already two sons in the business | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
and Father said, "Well, please yourself". | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
I can still, actually, size up a nice-looking heifer. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
ACCORDION MUSIC | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
-So, Jim, you've brought me to this lovely park here. -Yes. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
What significance do parks have in your life? | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
Well, I should say it's the Kay Park and in Kilmarnock, | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
there are four or five lovely parks. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
Before he left for other places, | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
-my father was deputy superintendant for all of the parks. -Wow. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
And the Kay Park here was one of them. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
He started off in the Howard Park in the centre of town | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
and when he came back from the forces in '46, | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
he immediately went back into the park there | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
and he was foreman of the park, | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
so it was part of the fabric of our life, really. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
You're much influenced by your environment | 0:08:27 | 0:08:29 | |
and that's one of the features, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
obviously, that was part of my environment. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
And years later, in 1989, | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
Jim was able to visit and interview his dear dad | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
in his then Helensburgh garden to talk begonias. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:42 | |
And then, after time, | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
they'll be covered up. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
-Right. -Covered like so. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
So, they've got to be kept in frost-proof premises | 0:08:49 | 0:08:54 | |
-and as I mentioned before, with certain permission... -JIM LAUGHS | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
..I'm allowed to use under the bed in the spare room | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
and that's where the boxes are wintered | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
-until, say, around about the month of April. -Right. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
Jim's upbringing in Kilmarnock | 0:09:09 | 0:09:10 | |
was also the seed bed for another of his passions...music. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
'And in the surroundings of the Kay Park, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
'reminiscing on early family life with his dad, | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
'Jim and I strapped on our squeeze-boxes ready for a tune.' | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
What are your memories of family life in those days? | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
Well, of course, he disappeared from the time I was five | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
and he came back at the end of the war and I was 10, 11, you know, | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
and so I can remember from then on | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
when things really started to happen | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
and one of his Army pals, | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
they went to football every Saturday in the winter time, | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
nip down to Rugby Park, | 0:09:39 | 0:09:40 | |
but we all met up afterwards and we had our high tea | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
and then we would sit and listen to The McFlannels. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
-What was The McFlannels? -Well, it was a family saga, really, | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
just like The Broons type thing on the radio. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:53 | |
'Once again we bring you The McFlannels, by Helen W Pryde. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:57 | |
'Ah, tak aff yer boots if ye want tae, | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
'Sarah's not in the now, | 0:09:59 | 0:10:00 | |
'I'm used wi' bad smells at the work.' | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
And then, of course, there was Scottish dance music. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
The parents all loved Scottish dance music | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
and the tune that it all started with was Kate Dalrymple. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
Kate Dalrymple, that's Take The Floor, I guess? | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
Well, it was a pre-runner of the Take The Floor. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
-Let me hear you... -Kate Dalrymple, | 0:10:17 | 0:10:18 | |
-and they still use it, Robbie still uses it today? -Oh, I'm sure he does. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
THEY PLAY "KATE DALRYMPLE" | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
Welcome to Tak' The Flair! | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
Och! Me, me, I go back to the road shows, | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
it was one of the best highlights of my life on television | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
was presenting the Beechgrove Roadshows. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
Well, here I am having a general chat about gardening, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
but the experts have arrived now, so I'm going to leave it to them. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
No matter where we were, Jim always took the accordion with him | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
'and George Barron sometimes took his fiddle | 0:11:01 | 0:11:06 | |
'and of course I contemplated a song or two' | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
and we had an impromptu ceilidh, often just between ourselves. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
Was there much music in the house? | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
-Piano. -Yeah? -And of course, that was one of the problems. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
When I flew the nest, | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
I suddenly realised I couldn't take the piano with me | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
and in the meantime, one of my farming cousins | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
had a squeeze-box and I just loved the sound of it, | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
so I bought a Frontalini from a music shop in Ayr. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:32 | |
What kind of sauce did you have with that? | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:11:34 | 0:11:35 | |
All the sauce in the world, because I could, | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
I could play with the right hand of course, | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
but you've got to learn the bellows. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
Well, I used to sit in the bothy in Auchincruive | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
and drive the boys absolutely wild as I sat trying. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
-What about playing The Headlands? -The Headlands? Aye. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:50 | |
MUSIC: The Headlands by Ronnie Cooper | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
I can just imagine Jim entertaining, | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
or maybe torturing his fellow horticultural students | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
as he taught himself to play the squeeze-box | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
in his leisure time in what was then | 0:12:15 | 0:12:16 | |
the West of Scotland College of Agriculture. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:21 | |
Well, Jim, this must bring some happy memories back to you, | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
this is where you started to formalise your career. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
-Absolutely. -Just think of working in this environment. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
I spent two years at college, formal training, | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
and at the end of that, | 0:12:33 | 0:12:34 | |
the superintendent of these gardens, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
which served all the students and so on, | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
said to me, "Have you got a job to go to, boy?" | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
I said, "No." He said, "Well, there's one for you here". | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
-Really? -Yes. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
So, I came onto the staff here, lived in the wee bothy up there | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
and I did three years here in three different departments | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
and for one whole year, I kind of looked after this bit. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
I cut all this grass every Thursday | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
in the growing season with a big 36-inch mower... | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
That's a lot of grass. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:01 | |
It was a throwback to the old days of the estate, | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
but what you were doing was learning the rhythm of the seasons, | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
the priorities of the job. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
-And the disciplines. -The disciplines of how to get it done, | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
so it was a hugely important learning curve | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
and learning actually on the job as well. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
How did you find that formal learning aspect to it? | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
Was it quite revealing? | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
I'm going to be very predictable... | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
it grows on you! | 0:13:27 | 0:13:28 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
I can't help but draw some comparisons, | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
having spoken to you for the last little while, | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
between horticulture, gardening and music. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:39 | |
You know, you can teach anybody to play tunes | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
and you can learn to play an instrument, | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
but it's learning to love it and to love the music and love the craft | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
and clearly, that's what you do. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
Absolutely right. But the interesting thing is | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
I use the same analogy in a different way. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
You can start gardening any time you like, | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
there are no barriers. | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
You can get involved or you can be a spectator, | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
you can go on to be a champion, or you just like a nice lawn. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
It's the same with music. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
What effect does this all have on you personally? | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
-I'm a kind of happy chappy! -THEY LAUGH | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
I do what I can for my fellow man, I do what I can for the family. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
What's life for otherwise? | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
Yeah, I 100% agree with you. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
ACCORDION MUSIC | 0:14:19 | 0:14:20 | |
Aye, it's tomato time again. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
I'm going away to sit in a corner and think about that. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
In the 1970s, Jim brought his young family to Aberdeenshire | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
and it's from Jim's present home in Oldmeldrum | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
that I learned the connection between another two of Jim's passions, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
whisky... | 0:14:34 | 0:14:35 | |
and tomatoes. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
I feel really privileged to have been invited into your own greenhouse | 0:14:37 | 0:14:41 | |
to see Jim McColl's own tomato plants. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
They're not the best this year, I can tell you. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
I'm suffering, like everybody else, from the peculiar summer we've had. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
We've got a crop, that's for sure. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
-You do. -If they would just ripen, I want them to turn red! | 0:14:52 | 0:14:56 | |
What is it with you and tomatoes? Where did this love affair begin? | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
I could argue that it's why I'm here in many respects, you know, | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
but if you come outside, I'll tell you all about it. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
This is quite a nice bit of ground, | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
but it used to be covered with polytunnels and glasshouses. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
-Really? -Yes, exactly. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:15 | |
So, I go back to the mid-'70s, | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
we'd just had the oil crisis of '73 | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
and there was big headlines in the newspapers saying | 0:15:21 | 0:15:25 | |
"The Scotch tomato's going to be disappearing" | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
because the Clyde Valley houses were old and difficult to heat | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
and with the cost of fuel, it wasn't going to work. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
The production director of Stanley P Morrison Ltd, | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
based in Glasgow, is reading this | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
and he's having something of the same problem | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
with his distillery in Oldmeldrum, so on the phone, "McColl..." | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
..right, "could we grow tomatoes in Aberdeenshire?" | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
I said, "Yes, but it's going to cost you because | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
"they'll take a lot of heating." | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
The story is we finished up, we put a half acre, | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
multi-span poly-tunnel on this piece of grass out here | 0:15:56 | 0:16:00 | |
and we used waste energy. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:02 | |
The water that was cooling the spirit | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
then had to go to a cooling tower. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:07 | |
Well, that was costing money. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
So, instead of that, we diverted it through the glasshouse | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
and it heated the glasshouse. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
So, at its peak, by the end of the '80s, 200 tonnes of tomatoes. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
-That's incredible. -Waste energy. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
It was a project that was 20 years before its time. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:24 | |
It was so far ahead of its time | 0:16:24 | 0:16:25 | |
that it was featured on the then also ground-breaking | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
Tomorrow's World. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
By boosting that three or four times, | 0:16:30 | 0:16:32 | |
they can get the plants to grow faster and stronger. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
The gas coming off the fermenters | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
is high on carbon dioxide, | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
so we bottled it, so to speak, | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
but it brought with it the perfume, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
so people walked in there and it... | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
-JIM SNIFFS -Whisky. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:16:49 | 0:16:50 | |
So they were labelled in the local shops as Whisky Toms. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
Whisky Toms. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
-Sounds like my kind of tomato, to be honest. -Well, right enough! | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
Well, I've drunk plenty of whisky and I've eaten plenty of tomatoes, | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
but I never knew there was such a tight link between the two. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
Well, in my life there has been, | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
because, obviously, we made our life here, | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
and we've just loved it. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
Hello, and welcome to the Beechgrove Garden in Aberdeen. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:14 | |
But how did Jim McColl become the longest serving, best loved, | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
weelest-kent gardener on the telly? | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
I spent 14 years south of the border. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
I saw the way that the gardens worked there, | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
I saw the climate, different soils, all the rest of it, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
and the facilities that were available for the amateur gardener | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
to help that person, you know, get better | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
and I came back to Scotland a lot maturer than when I left | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
and realised that it wasn't quite the same up here. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
I came to work at the north college | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
and quite soon I was invited to participate | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
on a weekly radio programme | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
and it was about helping people to garden better. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
Eventually, I finished up chairing that programme | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
and then, lo and behold, | 0:17:54 | 0:17:55 | |
we're talking about doing a television programme. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
Hello there, and welcome once again to the Beechgrove Garden. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
When we laid out the Beechgrove, it was laid out | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
in a series of cameos of a back garden. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
No pretensions, just a back garden, a front garden, | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
a few tubs and troughs, a few wee conifers and all that sort of stuff, | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
'because that's where I knew for a fact | 0:18:19 | 0:18:23 | |
'that people needed more information.' | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
Now, we're fair enjoying this stroll... | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
Oh, yes, we'll go in and see what Brian's doing at the... | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
-No, we're going to look at the fruit house first. -Oh, yes of course, aye. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
You're nae getting away with that. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:34 | |
The ethos was very much | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
to keep feet on the ground and to keep contact with real gardeners. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:41 | |
People respond because it's not beyond their comprehension, | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
it couldn't be if it was coming from me, | 0:18:45 | 0:18:47 | |
'or dare I say it, my late pal, George, who was a countryman,' | 0:18:47 | 0:18:51 | |
a gardener all his days | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
and he just got success by trial and error. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
There's a wee bit of detergent amongst the water, that will probably help to... | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
That's an awful big word for you, George. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
Aye, I swallowed a dictionary this morning. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
-How does that taste, then? -Like a radish. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
JIM LAUGHS | 0:19:08 | 0:19:09 | |
You can't create partnerships, successful partnerships. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
-They grow. -They happen. Like you and Aly. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
I mean, it happens and with George, a different generation. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
There was a generation between us, but most important, | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
we complemented each other, we didn't compete. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
This is what we need to go with a cup of tea. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
Well, exactly, yes. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
And isn't that a magnificent cake? | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
Aye, gosh, it's a beauty. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:32 | |
-You would just love to get... -Oh, just a half each. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
George Barron, of course, had the roof up when he was, | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
when he left me to go and do a wee jobbie in the potting shed. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
The children were always waiting for George Barron to say... | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
"I'm just off to the greenhouse to do a wee jobbie." | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
A wee jobbie cracked them up, | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
because it was because it was sort of family code for, | 0:19:50 | 0:19:52 | |
for you know what. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:53 | |
-You got anything? -I'm sure I have. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
There was George Barron speaking this very, very | 0:19:55 | 0:19:59 | |
broad north-east accent, | 0:19:59 | 0:20:00 | |
which at times to other parts of the country | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
might have needed subtitles, | 0:20:03 | 0:20:04 | |
and Jim McColl, very much an Ayrshire lad, | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
also with a fine Scottish accent | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
and again, it made for great viewing entertainment and listening. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
-You reckon there's going to be plenty of stuff in here? -Well, I'm prepared for a complete... | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
-For a disaster. -Again, yep. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:19 | |
People have asked me, "What makes you think you know?" | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
On that day one, when George Barron and I stood in front of a camera | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
'for the first time, he brought 50 years' experience to that spot | 0:20:26 | 0:20:30 | |
'and I brought 25, 30 years' experience. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
'Now, if between us, | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
'we couldn't talk for three minutes about how to plant tatties, | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
'it's a bad show, isn't it?' | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
-Let's go and do something sensible, George. -I think so. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
'George, of course, was numero uno | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
'and then we've got Carole who's been with the programme' | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
for 30-odd years as well. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
Now, I suggested to the bosses, | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
I says, "When George goes, I think we should have the quine". | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
-What? -What? | 0:20:58 | 0:20:59 | |
I said, "Well, not only would you then have the male-female, | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
er, angle, but I said, she's English. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
'Now that'll get them talking. You see, well, it's worked!' | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
-Welcome, Carole. -Hello, Jim. -But that really is a false thing | 0:21:08 | 0:21:12 | |
-because you've been here for quite a while, haven't you? -I've been here three years now. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
You've really been the petticoat government | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
-keeping us right for the last three years. -Something like that. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
But I never had a television, I only went there | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
for the gardening post, not to be a presenter. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
The failures were equally, if not more important, | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
but equally as important as the successes. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
I think we'll go for the big tip over, shall we? | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
-We'd better not muddle them up... -THEY TALK OVER EACH OTHER | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
Watch this. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:40 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
There's nothing here! | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
It's not weight, it's numbers we're going for, right, boys? | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:21:49 | 0:21:50 | |
We'll see you! Ta-ra! | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
You'd better run! | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
That's a disgrace, that. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
In recent years, Jim and Carole | 0:21:56 | 0:21:57 | |
have been joined by fellow gardeners, George Anderson | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
and Chris Beardshaw. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:01 | |
He is one of those rare individuals | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
who touches plants and touches the earth | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
and is never more content | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
than when he's got a trowel, or a spade, or seeds, | 0:22:09 | 0:22:13 | |
or the produce that he's gained from the garden, in his hands. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:18 | |
Working with Jim has been absolutely magical. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:25 | |
He and I share the same sense of humour. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
-Off we go... -You keep your eye on the road, George. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
-You watch for speed cameras. -Yes, yes, a bit of time travel, eh? | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
Absolutely. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:36 | |
-Stop! -CAR SKIDS | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
I've been down in the south now for, oh, many years, | 0:22:38 | 0:22:40 | |
and it's an underprivileged life down here, | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
but one of the great things is | 0:22:44 | 0:22:45 | |
there is still a civilising influence | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
in that we get the Beechgrove Garden on our tellies from time to time. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:52 | |
We have...quite a few people are in touch with us nowadays | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
because we're broadcasting south of the border | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
and the interesting thing is they're not | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
so concerned about the timing, which I was. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
It's not the when, it's the how and the why. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
So, it's like that old suit of mine with turn-ups, | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
if I keep it long enough, it will come into fashion again. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
Jim, I cannot believe that you're 80. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
I am such a fan, I have been all my life. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
Have a fantastic birthday. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
Happy birthday! | 0:23:21 | 0:23:22 | |
He's one of those rare things on television, | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
somebody who's both entertaining | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
and knowledgeable, and long may he continue doing that. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:31 | |
The great Jim McColl, happy birthday and many happy returns. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
Birthday greetings to Jim McColl | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
from one little Essex sunflower. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:38 | |
Happy birthday, mannie. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:40 | |
Jim and his lovely wife Billie have been together for 56 years, | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
or would that be 57? | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
56? Fifty... | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
-57 years. -Ah. -But this is our 56th... | 0:23:50 | 0:23:55 | |
-married. -It's a long time. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:56 | |
-We met at a nurses' dance. -Did you? | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
In a maternity hospital. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
Not many men meet their wife in a maternity hospital, that's for sure. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:05 | |
That is true. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:06 | |
So, would you consider yourself to be the head gardener? | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
Yes, very much so. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
And what would Jim's role be? | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
-Assistant. -Yeah. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
I get the job of being a consultant every now and again. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
I remember watching the Beechgrove programme | 0:24:19 | 0:24:21 | |
when I was involved in other projects, thinking, | 0:24:21 | 0:24:23 | |
do you know what, that's the garden I'd like to work in. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
Happy birthday. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
I really can't believe that after all these years | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
I'm actually standing in the Beechgrove Garden. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
It's magic. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:35 | |
These guys are absolutely incredible, | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
all that knowledge and passion rolled into one. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
I'm kind of wondering | 0:24:41 | 0:24:42 | |
if it's their equivalent of getting together for a tune. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
I'm having wee shivers watching this, it's great. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
Jim, this has been your whole life, you've been involved in this | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
-and you're 80 years old. -Yes! -What is your secret? | 0:24:53 | 0:24:57 | |
Well, I think as I've said before, I started into it very early on, | 0:24:57 | 0:25:01 | |
even when...on the farm, when I was a kid, | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
and keeping you out of mischief was simple, I'll give you a job to do. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
And you move on through horticulture, | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
the job has to be done regardless of the weather, | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
you know, plants grow seven days a week, they need tending. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:16 | |
It all has an effect on you | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
and at the end of the day, the results are just stunning. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
So, apart from the self-satisfaction of growing a crop, | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
or pruning a rose and seeing it come into flower next year, | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
all that sort of thing, it's the effect it has. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
And you've managed to share that passion though, | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
-with the rest of the world. -Yeah. -How does that make you feel? | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
Humble, because I don't see I'm doing anything wrong! | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
Or anything different, for that matter. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
It's just the way you want to be, isn't it? | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
You want to be happy when you go to bed at night | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
and sleep the night and when you go into company with people | 0:25:47 | 0:25:51 | |
and start talking about gardening, | 0:25:51 | 0:25:52 | |
it starts relationships and it builds confidence | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
and you get really good friends. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
I was watching yourself and Carole and Chris | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
down below there working away and it's just a total joy to watch | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
the three of you enjoying this common passion together. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:08 | |
And if you had one piece of advice to give to someone | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
about to embark on the hobby of gardening, what would you tell them? | 0:26:10 | 0:26:15 | |
Well, you know how I repeat myself very often, it's not just age... | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
-Every day is a school day. -Yeah. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
Always be prepared to learn a new way of doing it, | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
or a better way or doing it, or whatever. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:25 | |
And having an open mind, I suppose. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
There are one or two things where I'm... | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
don't ask me. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
-How's my picking doing? -I might change character a bit. -How's my berry picking? | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
Well, we're not getting much if we're only getting paid a tanner a punnet, are we? | 0:26:35 | 0:26:40 | |
Jim, you're a horticultural treasure, | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
I so loved working for you. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
Happy, happy birthday and many more. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
It seems wholly appropriate to raise a glass to you, Jim, | 0:26:48 | 0:26:52 | |
the ambassador for Scottish horticulture | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
and not just the daddy, but the granddaddy of our industry. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
Cheers, Jim. Many, many happy returns. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
Happy birthday. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:02 | |
Can I have another take? | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
I know how old you are, | 0:27:07 | 0:27:09 | |
and by jings, I'm only months behind you. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:11 | |
I wish you a very, very happy 80th birthday | 0:27:11 | 0:27:15 | |
and I hope indeed you're nae thinking of retiring, | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
you're far too young! | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
Yee! | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
Hello, Jim. 80 years old, what a milestone. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
Mind, I'm not far behind you, but happy birthday from Phil and I. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
Yeah, Jim, happy birthday. All the best, man. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
MUSIC: The First Train To Kyle by Phil and Johnny Cunningham | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
I know it so well! | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
But I don't know the name of it. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:43 | |
Well, it's actually called The First Train to Kyle. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:47 | |
And why is it so special to you? | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
Well, it was written by my late brother, Johnny Cunningham. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
-Fiddler extraordinaire. -He was amazing, | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
he was a very fine fiddle player and a great tunesmith, | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
he wrote loads of good tunes, | 0:27:58 | 0:27:59 | |
and that tune was written in the Flodigarry Hotel | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
and he had just travelled from Inverness to Kyle. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:06 | |
It's so well-known, and I didn't know that story, you see, | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
so there we are, I'm turning the tables on you. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
Jim, I'd just like to say, without doubt, | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
you are one of my favourite hardy perennials. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
Please keep gardening | 0:28:18 | 0:28:19 | |
and I wish you a very happy and a very special 80th birthday. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:24 | |
Play us out. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:25 | |
-Yeah, same tune? -Yes. Of course. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
Bye-bye. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:51 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:28:51 | 0:28:52 | |
See you next week. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:53 | |
JIM LAUGHS | 0:28:53 | 0:28:54 |