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TRAIN HORN

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We experimented on Pet Sounds.

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I tried to write something better

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than the surf songs and car songs.

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It taps into all those feelings that we have as we're growing up

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that somehow he's been able to express, musically and lyrically.

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# Wouldn't it be nice if we were older

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# Then we wouldn't have to wait so long... #

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Pet Sounds, to me, is this beautiful marriage of a childlike innocence,

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emotional vulnerability and

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an adult sort of musical genius.

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# I keep looking for a place to fit in

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# Where I can speak my mind... #

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It was totally different to anything that was going on at that time.

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It was the leader, and everybody followed that.

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# I know there's an answer

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# I know now but I have to find it by myself... #

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Brian was a master of the studio.

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No-one was his equal.

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It'll always be somewhere.

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As long as you can hear music.

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# If you should ever leave me

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# Though life would still go on, believe me... #

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One of the greatest songs I've ever heard.

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That's the genius of it.

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People think, "Oh, I can do that." But they can't.

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It's something that only Brian could do, you know.

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# God only knows what I'd be without you... #

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My dad played a lot of music.

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He taught me how to play...

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HE PLAYS BOOGIE WOOGIE

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That kind of a bass line.

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Like boogie-woogie music.

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He had a song called His Little Darlin' And You.

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# He must return to his queen bee

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# for his little darlin' and me... #

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He wrote that song.

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And then he said, "Do you like it? And I said, "I love it!"

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He had a father in Murry Wilson who was classic showbiz.

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There was a lot of pressure on him, on many levels,

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to keep the family business going.

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As children, Mike and Brian would

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frequent the family singalongs, even back when they were little tykes.

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You know, they'd be in the car together, singing the stuff

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on the radio and making up silly words, so it was automatic.

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Just like it was automatic when Dennis was tossed the drumsticks

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and became a drummer overnight.

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It's like all of it just fell in.

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Brian's cousin Mike would help him

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with the words in the very beginning.

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They had a lot in common with, you know, their taste.

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There were the earlier rock and roll hits that were an inspiration

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to so many of us.

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Chuck Berry, Little Richard, and The Everly Brothers.

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Those three were big influences

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on both The Beatles and The Beach Boys as well.

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We had the additional influence of The Four Freshman

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who did this amazing harmony.

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Brian loved The Four Freshman so much.

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# Day by day you're making all my dreams come true

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# So come what may, I want you to know... #

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The Four Freshman taught me how to sing, you know, like high falsetto.

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And Brian just melded that sweet vocal harmony kind of a thing

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into something that was just sensational.

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Mike was big into doo-wop,

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with the bom-boms and the doop-doops.

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It started when we were asked to do a folk song, and we said,

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"Well, we like folk music,

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"but we're really more into R&B and rock and roll."

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Brian and I got around the piano,

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and came up with the song Surfin', a very simple song.

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-# We're going surfin'

-(Bom bom dip di dit)

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-# Surfin'

-(Bom bom dip di dit)... #

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It was a R&B-influenced song with the bom-bom dip-di-dip-dit-dips,

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but it was about surfing.

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It was a way of life, a way of dress, a way of talking,

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an attitude, a lifestyle.

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Capitol were always looking for the younger acts.

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Murry Wilson there, The Beach Boys' dad, had sent in a demo record

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to Voyle Gilmore, who was then head of A&R at Capitol.

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And Voyle gave it to Nik Venet, who was one of our producers there,

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to listen to, and Nik came running into my office and said,

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"You got to hear this."

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I listened to it, it just knocked me out.

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And I said, "Oh, my gosh, we got to sign them right now

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"before we lose them," you know.

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And we did Surfin', and it did really well

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in about half a dozen markets.

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But then Surfin' Safari became a reasonably big hit.

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# Let's go surfin' now

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# Everybody's learnin' how

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# Come on and safari with me... #

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Well, the sun was always shining for a start.

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And everybody was gorgeous, and on the beach and all that.

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I never aspired to go surfing or anything like that, frankly,

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but just to be there and see all these people and, you know,

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maybe go on a date with a guy like that would be smashing.

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That's what we liked.

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I spoke to Brian about it after, and he said, "I love the lifestyle,

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"and I'm an observer, I love the sunshine and the whole

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"kind of fashion thing that go es with it, but I'm not into surfing

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"because I don't swim."

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That was a bit of a revelation.

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And then Surfin' USA in 1963 was number one.

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Surfing and girls.

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Girls, big on girls songs.

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And school.

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So it kind of appealed to everyone, really, didn't it?

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The Midwest...they didn't know from surfing.

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It was the hotrod songs that got those guys going.

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# Little deuce coupe

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# You don't know what I got

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# Little deuce coupe

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# You don't know what I got

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# Well I'm not braggin' babe so don't put me down

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# But I've got the fastest set of wheels in town

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# When something comes up to me he don't even try

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# Cos if I had a set of wings man I know she could fly

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# She's my little deuce coupe

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# You don't know what I got... #

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I mean, they loved the surfing records,

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they loved the hotrod records, I'm talking about the marketing guys

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and the promotion guys who had to go out and promote these things.

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But I can remember when Brian wanted to put out...

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I think it was Little Surfer Girl.

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And the guys, the promotion guys, went,

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"Oh, this is going to kill it, it's a ballad," you know.

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Brian said, "No, this is going to be..." You know. And Surfer Girl was a wonderful record.

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I copied the Four Freshman singer, the high singer.

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And I wrote Surfer Girl like...

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# Little Surfer...

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# Little one

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# Made my heart come all undone

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# Do you love me

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# Do you, surfer girl...? #

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So, you had your surfing and your beach life, your car songs,

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but also everybody had to go to school.

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So we wrote a song called Be True To Your School.

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# Hey, hey, take it away, get that ball and fight

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# So, be true to your school

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# (Rah rah rah rah sis boom bah)

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# Just like you would to your girl or guy

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# (Rah rah rah rah sis boom bah)

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# Be true to your school now... #

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I mean, we had our education pretty much set out for us.

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Brian was our music teacher,

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and just being on the road was our Rhodes scholar stuff.

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We were on the road 100 days a year or more,

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and in the studio that many.

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So it was getting tough.

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I think Brian went through a crisis.

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I mean, the end of '64, The Beach Boys had been touring relentlessly,

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as they did in those days. They used to work those bands so hard.

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And then the British invasion scared him to death.

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He thought, "It's all over,

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"The Beatles are going to take it

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"over and that's it, we're out of business."

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And he was the centre of this,

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because obviously he was the main man with The Beach Boys.

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So, in addition to doing all of the work in the studio and the writing,

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he'd have to do all the publicising and all the promoting.

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Look at all those jobs he had.

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And anybody would cave in at some point, it's too much.

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We observed him being quite unhappy being out on the road

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and away from home, and not everyone is suited for that life.

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He couldn't handle a lot of the things that went along with that,

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like the travelling, the loudness of it, it hurt his ear,

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he was having trouble hearing out of his... He's deaf in one ear.

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I saw him have a breakdown on an airplane.

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I was sitting right next to him, thinking,

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"Well, this is it, it's over. He's not going to recover from this."

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Well, I wanted to spend more time at my house, writing songs at home.

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And...

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So, I told the guys, "I'm going to stop touring."

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Nobody could sing like Brian in terms of that falsetto,

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and he played the bass with us in our live shows.

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So, it was not a happy occurrence to see

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him leave the live group.

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Capitol, on the other hand, was thinking,

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"Well, if he can make some more records, and make them as good

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"or better than they are, there's an up side to that, too."

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So, there wasn't a great deal of worry, as far as Capitol was concerned.

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Brian Wilson's decision to get off the road and to get into the studio

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is one of the most profound moments in rock history,

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because it really is when Brian Wilson, I think, intuitively decided

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that he was going to be an artist.

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That he could spend more time writing, arranging and recording

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the tracks, to which we would sing

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when we would come back off of a tour.

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He found that his instrument was the recording studio.

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You could really hear instrumentation that was unique to rock music.

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And I personally think the opening strands of California Girls

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is like an overture.

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It sounds symphonic to me.

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Just the whole dynamic of it, it's beautiful.

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# Well, East Coast girls are hip, I really dig those styles they wear

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# And the Southern girls with the way they talk

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# They knock me out when I'm down there... #

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Brian was growing exponentially,

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out of that three to four year time period since we started.

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He really blossomed.

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Everybody can see Brian evolve as a songwriter-composer.

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He even said so himself when our first album was just released,

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that he was already talking about down the road, when he was going to

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produce all of this wonderful music.

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And he just kept true to his word.

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# I wish they all could be California

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# I wish they all could be California girls... #

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The Beach Boys were, up till that point,

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sort of an embodiment of the California dream.

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And the success of girls/surf/cars/school

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brought in the ability to have budgets to keep recording and

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experimenting, and now he's got

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a pack of brilliant musicians in the studio.

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Most people know them as The Wrecking Crew, and they were

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basically the top LA session players, people who'd come up

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through the jazz scene, who played on everything from Sonny and Cher

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to Frank Sinatra to Mamas and Papas, and a lot of Phil Spector's records.

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They were on pretty much everything.

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He didn't rely on The Beach Boys' band so much any more,

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because he didn't have to.

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The minute those guys were on the road,

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he was really in the lab, experimenting.

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One of the tracks he did was Sloop John B, which...

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The idea for that came from Alan Jardine.

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Growing up as a teenager in Hawthorne, California, we were all

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mesmerised by this folk...this evolution of folk music that

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happened around the late '50s, early 60s.

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And here comes this amazing trio, The Kingston Trio.

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# We come on the Sloop John B

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# My grandfather and me... #

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So I wanted to share my joy of that with the guys.

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And I started messing around with some folk songs again.

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And, by golly, that darn old Kingston Trio stuff started coming back.

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# Well, I feel so break up

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# I want to go home... #

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Al Jardine loved folk music so much, and when he was in high school,

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he would sing the Kingston Trio music,

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and he always wanted to record it.

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Without Al's interest, I don't think Brian would have ever recorded it.

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I thought, "If I put it in his language, put it in a way that he'll

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"understand it, and give it a little oomph, a little power,

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"a little change, get off the folk rhythm,

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"get on to the Beach Boy rhythm...."

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He actually showed Brian the chords and so on, like that.

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This is probably how I played it.

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HE PLAYS UPBEAT RHYTHM

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A little more tempo.

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And here's the difference.

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HE PLAYS MINOR CHORD

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There's the key, there's the turnaround that actually makes the vocals work.

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They become magical.

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Because we've added a minor.

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And we did it together.

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I told him I would adapt the melody and make an arrangement to it.

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The next day, he had an arrangement done on it.

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He surprised the hell out of me.

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And he came up with quite a stunning track.

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Let's have the flutes one more time.

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Could I hear...?

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One more.

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Right there, don't move! Don't move.

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All right, let's make it. Here we go, Sloop John B.

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# We come on the Sloop John B

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# My grandfather and me

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# Around Nassau town we did roam

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# Drinking all night

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# Got into a fight

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# Well, I feel so broke up

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# I wanna go home

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# So hoist up the John B's sail... #

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Downbeats. Unheard of. Just downbeat.

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# Call for the captain ashore

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# Let me go home

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# Let me go home... #

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Building a track was something that Brian was very good at.

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It was a very simple part, obviously.

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It would get more elaborate.

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And, except for the intro, the horns and the flutes haven't played yet, they will come in here.

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# The first mate he got drunk

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# And broke in the captain's trunk

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# The constable had to come and take him away... #

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It's somehow the visualisation of being on that ship,

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watching those waves, watching the sails.

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To me, it's all visual.

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Just something to spice up the feeling of being on the ocean.

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So, we're towards the end of the song...

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and you'll see that Hal's part changes.

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DRUMS BECOME BUSIER

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"Now another 16 bars. We want it bigger."

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DRUMMING INTENSIFIES

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And it's still changing.

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So, the rougher seas, maybe.

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And it's getting bigger and bigger and bigger,

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and now I'm playing straight eighths.

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With two drums.

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Which is one of the tricks I always had with The Beach Boys.

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Snare drum and a floor tom-tom.

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So, you're getting the highs of the snare,

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the lows of the floor tom-tom.

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# So hoist up the John B

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# Hoist up the John B... #

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Of course, he didn't invite me to the session,

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which I thought was kind of rude.

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But, you know, I quickly forgave him, because, you know,

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he was on a roll, man.

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He was on fire. So I just backed off.

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I thought, "You know what? He got it. I got through!"

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And that was the main thing.

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What you see with The Beach Boys, right before Pet Sounds,

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is that rock and roll was about getting a hit.

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It was always about the next hit and just giving you something that maybe

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sounded enough like the last one to get another hit.

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Oh, man. We became like a touring jukebox.

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Yeah.

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We were like a jukebox band.

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Really, that idea of the rock and roll album was just beginning

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to exist, you know, it's really...

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The Beatles, around Rubber Soul, step up the game in a major way.

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Anything and everything The Beatles did was worth paying notice to.

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And it was an inspiration, Rubber Soul in particular.

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Brain Wilson is very introspective, melancholy.

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He might have been afraid to express himself that way.

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The Rubber Soul album by The Beatles, I think, might have

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sparked Brian, opened a little window for him.

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# Nowhere man, please listen

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# You don't know what you're missing

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# Nowhere man

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# The world is at your command... #

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"Maybe I can be, you know, introspective in my art and

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"express my melancholy through songs and stuff."

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You could see there that he was, you know,

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something's going on in this guy's head.

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It's not the average, "My girlfriend left me at the high school dance."

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There was something more going on.

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I experimented on Pet Sounds, I tried to write something better

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than the surf songs and car songs.

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Maybe my favourite Brian song of all time is

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I Just Wasn't Made For These Times. It's where he hits the truth.

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# I keep looking for a place to fit in

0:18:520:18:57

# Where I can speak my mind... #

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The first line.

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How many people in this world haven't felt that way?

0:19:050:19:08

I'm looking for a place to fit in.

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"I'm just looking for a place where I can speak my mind."

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I think that really crystallises

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a lot of the impetus behind Pet Sounds.

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Brian was finding a place to really express himself.

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# And I've been trying hard to find the people

0:19:220:19:27

# That I won't leave behind... #

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That was like a social statement, like saying I thought that I was

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a little bit out of time.

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I thought I was a little ahead of my time.

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We had talked about that idea even before we did some of the other

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songs, so I think it was something that kind of up came up occasionally

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as we were discussing lyric ideas.

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They're not clever-clever.

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None of the lyrics on those, on Pet Sounds are clever-clever.

0:19:520:19:55

They all just get right to the heart and say what they've got to say.

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# They say I got brains but they ain't doin' me no good

0:19:580:20:05

# I wish they could... #

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It just had a feeling of, like,

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"I wish I could find people that could help me find a cooler place,"

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you know?

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It's a simple song.

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But when you hear the vocal stuff on it, it's not a simple song,

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it's not that easy to do.

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The harmonies are the distinctive quality of The Beach Boys' recordings.

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I think that's the one thing that is very, you know,

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unique to The Beach Boys, the refinement of the harmonies and the

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closeness of the harmonies,

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and the warmth of the harmonies, and the blend.

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There's something that is in their DNA, I guess, you know?

0:20:400:20:45

They've got that... They come from the same heritage.

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Singing is an expression of your self, you know?

0:20:480:20:50

Your feelings.

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And... So, me and my brothers sang together, because we're a family.

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Three brothers and my cousin Mike,

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so we blend together very well, very good.

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Al Jardine, Mike Love, Carl Wilson, Brian Wilson, Dennis Wilson.

0:21:030:21:09

Those timbres. In fact, now slide me in there - zip! Now there's six,

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and listen to, on the Pet Sounds album, this track called

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I Just Wasn't Made For These Times.

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There's six of us singing!

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# Each time things start to happen again

0:21:220:21:26

# I think I got something good going for myself

0:21:260:21:31

# But what goes wrong?

0:21:310:21:35

# Sometimes I feel very sad

0:21:350:21:39

# Ain't find the right thing I can put my heart and soul into

0:21:390:21:45

# Sometimes I feel very sad

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There's a quality and a blend about the voices that they...

0:21:490:21:56

that nobody has copied.

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I mean, there's been tribute bands who, obviously, copied them,

0:21:580:22:01

but nobody has been able to reach that height of...

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To me, it's quite jazzy, and that's one of the reasons I like it.

0:22:060:22:10

But that height of sophistication, musically, and the sound...

0:22:100:22:14

It was unique.

0:22:140:22:16

# I guess I just wasn't made for these times

0:22:160:22:22

# I guess I just wasn't made for these times

0:22:220:22:26

# I guess I just wasn't made for these times... #

0:22:260:22:33

I Just Wasn't Made For These Times is kind of an artistic statement,

0:22:330:22:37

saying, "I am not going to fit into my times,

0:22:370:22:40

"I'm going to determine them." And he did.

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You know, he did, the Beatles did, and Bob Dylan, they all

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stopped trying to make pop music in the traditional sense and tried to

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make art, and that's why popular music became art.

0:22:520:22:56

I met Brian Wilson the first time at Capitol Recording Studios.

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I was working for an advertising agency.

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It was part of my job, I was doing jingles and writing commercials.

0:23:070:23:13

# Lucky Locket Kiddles Lucky Locket Kiddles. #

0:23:130:23:17

That was it. That was the whole jingle. And it was two notes.

0:23:170:23:20

And so effective.

0:23:200:23:22

And so, I go outside the studio, and I walk down the hall, and I guess

0:23:220:23:26

I just ran into Brian, and the two of us were standing there.

0:23:260:23:30

We started talking. He said, "Hi, how are you?" You know...

0:23:300:23:32

-IMPERSONATES BRIAN:

-Hi, how are you?

0:23:320:23:34

It's kind of a Brian thing.

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And I said, "Great, how are you? What are you working on?"

0:23:360:23:38

And he said, "Oh, we're doing some stuff. Hey, you want to listen to this?"

0:23:380:23:42

I was very impressed with some of the stuff I heard

0:23:420:23:46

in that session, because they were not finished tracks.

0:23:460:23:49

It was sublime.

0:23:490:23:51

I mean, it was really... I couldn't have imagined anything better, you know?

0:23:510:23:54

Tony was a very mellow person. He was a very nice guy.

0:23:540:23:57

Kind of low-key, he wasn't a real peppy guy,

0:23:570:24:00

he was kind of low-key.

0:24:000:24:02

I went back to doing what I was doing and I didn't know

0:24:020:24:05

if I would ever see him again.

0:24:050:24:06

A few weeks later, I got a phone call.

0:24:060:24:08

I was surprised, because I thought, "Why would he be calling me?"

0:24:080:24:11

You know, I mean... Just to say,

0:24:110:24:14

"Hey, it was fun the other day," or something, you know?

0:24:140:24:16

It didn't seem to make sense.

0:24:160:24:17

Well, he was good with words for those advertisements.

0:24:170:24:20

I asked him if he could write lyrics, and he said, "Sure, I can write lyrics."

0:24:200:24:23

And he said, "Well, I'm just sitting around at the piano, I thought maybe

0:24:230:24:27

"you might want to, you know, do some stuff together.

0:24:270:24:30

"The boys are in Japan." And he said, "I don't really have anybody to write with."

0:24:300:24:36

So, he came to my house and we started writing Pet Sounds.

0:24:360:24:38

# Wouldn't it be nice if we were older

0:24:380:24:42

# Then we wouldn't have to wait so long

0:24:420:24:46

# And wouldn't it be nice to live together

0:24:460:24:50

# In the kind of world where we belong

0:24:500:24:54

# You know it's gonna make it that much better

0:24:540:24:59

# When we can say goodnight and stay together... #

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Tony Asher's contribution is fantastic.

0:25:030:25:07

He is a marvellous writer.

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Well, I knew he was great, you know.

0:25:100:25:12

He liked the way I wrote melodies, and I liked his lyrics.

0:25:120:25:16

We wrote during the day, and he would come to my house, and he would

0:25:160:25:20

have his paper and his pen, and I would write a little bit

0:25:200:25:23

and then he would write a little lyrics.

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He must have just felt it was someone who would listen to him,

0:25:250:25:29

and who could help channel him through lyrics.

0:25:290:25:33

They're all great,

0:25:330:25:36

and I really like the work that Tony Asher did.

0:25:360:25:40

The fact that Brian just meets a guy who's in advertising and somehow

0:25:400:25:44

ends up writing some of the most important lyrics of all time

0:25:440:25:48

with this man, Tony Asher, that are timeless.

0:25:480:25:52

It's just... It's kind of inexplicable.

0:25:520:25:55

Well, he had the knack for making people feel good.

0:25:550:25:58

I thought that was a nice, young idea for a song, which is...

0:25:580:26:03

You know, "Wouldn't it be nice if we were older?"

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When I was 14 and I came into the business...

0:26:060:26:09

Well, when I was 14 and whatever I'd have done,

0:26:090:26:11

I thought I was so grown up.

0:26:110:26:13

We were, the girls, anyway.

0:26:130:26:15

The fellas...

0:26:150:26:16

But we...we thought we were so grown up.

0:26:160:26:19

And we wanted to be older, to be able to be free to do this

0:26:190:26:21

and to do that, and not have our parents tell us, "No, you can't."

0:26:210:26:24

Asher was clever in that way, and the way that he had an ambiguity

0:26:240:26:28

to his lyrics which had essentially a very simple message

0:26:280:26:31

taken at face value.

0:26:310:26:33

But if you go into it, you find that there's a more...

0:26:330:26:37

spiritual side to it, and a more complex message coming across.

0:26:370:26:42

The album is the sound of him trying to explore becoming an adult.

0:26:420:26:49

Because I think he may have had a sort of delayed go at that.

0:26:490:26:54

Great song.

0:26:540:26:56

There's the explosion...

0:27:000:27:02

You're trying to get Hal to play the intro the way you want.

0:27:040:27:07

Right.

0:27:070:27:08

STUDIO RECORDING: Hal, here's how I want to do it.

0:27:080:27:10

Take it... It's like this. Da-da-da-da-da-da-boom!

0:27:100:27:13

-Two...three...four...

-Boom.

0:27:130:27:15

I wanted Hal to hit the drum as hard as he could

0:27:150:27:17

so that we can get an echo.

0:27:170:27:19

# Wouldn't it be nice if we were older

0:27:260:27:30

# Then we wouldn't have to wait so long

0:27:300:27:34

# And wouldn't it be nice to live together

0:27:340:27:38

# In the kind of world where we belong...? #

0:27:380:27:41

Everybody was doing that.

0:27:410:27:44

You know, double voicing, double tracking.

0:27:440:27:46

So, we tried it. We wanted to do it like everybody else.

0:27:460:27:49

DOUBLE-TRACKED VOCALS

0:27:490:27:51

The thing I've always loved about this track is that when you take the

0:27:540:27:57

leads out and just play the backgrounds and the backing track,

0:27:570:28:03

if you will, it's such an amazing...

0:28:030:28:06

Where are the voices? In the background.

0:28:080:28:11

There they are.

0:28:110:28:14

The Beach Boys.

0:28:140:28:15

# Wouldn't it be nice if we could wake up

0:28:150:28:19

# In the morning when the day is new

0:28:190:28:23

# And after having spent the day together

0:28:230:28:26

# Hold each other close the whole night through...? #

0:28:260:28:31

Yeah.

0:28:310:28:32

Wouldn't It Be Nice?

0:28:320:28:34

Total stress.

0:28:340:28:35

Brings back good memories.

0:28:350:28:37

That was one that was just never quite right.

0:28:370:28:40

And it just...in his mind,

0:28:400:28:43

he could not... He just didn't hear it. He wasn't hearing it.

0:28:430:28:45

You know, "Come on, guys, you can do better than that."

0:28:450:28:48

Brian was between a hipster and...

0:28:480:28:54

one of your famous British Generals that was tough.

0:28:540:28:57

He was tough.

0:28:570:28:58

He demanded everything from everybody.

0:28:580:29:01

Wouldn't It Be Nice is upbeat and fabulous, it's a great arrangement.

0:29:010:29:05

We worked many hours doing...

0:29:050:29:09

perfecting the harmonies on that one.

0:29:090:29:12

That was a labour of love.

0:29:120:29:14

That's for sure.

0:29:140:29:16

Do you remember why you decided to put Mike back in the bridge

0:29:160:29:19

on Wouldn't It Be Nice? To back up...?

0:29:190:29:21

Yeah, because I wanted him to take part in that song.

0:29:210:29:24

# Maybe if we think and wish and hope and pray

0:29:240:29:27

# It might come true

0:29:270:29:30

# Baby then there wouldn't be a single thing we couldn't do

0:29:320:29:38

# We could be married... #

0:29:380:29:43

I was stunned, sometimes, by how much he...

0:29:430:29:48

had going on in his head that I never dreamed was there,

0:29:500:29:53

because, you know, you can't hear it until you can hear it.

0:29:530:29:55

I wanted to record Wouldn't It Be Nice at Gold Star

0:29:550:29:59

because it has a good echo chamber, and I like the echo.

0:29:590:30:01

Be My Baby, Brian has probably listened to that more than he's

0:30:010:30:05

listened to any other song, or songs combined.

0:30:050:30:09

He would play it repeatedly, incessantly.

0:30:090:30:12

He was mesmerised by Be My Baby by The Ronettes,

0:30:120:30:16

but produced by Phil Spector.

0:30:160:30:18

And then the bass line...

0:30:180:30:20

It had a great bass line and a great melody and a great singer, Ronnie.

0:30:230:30:28

# So won't you please

0:30:280:30:30

# Be my, be my baby

0:30:300:30:32

# Be my little baby

0:30:320:30:33

# My one and only baby

0:30:330:30:36

# Say you'll be my darling

0:30:360:30:37

# Be my, be my baby

0:30:370:30:39

# Be my baby now

0:30:390:30:42

# Whoa-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh... #

0:30:420:30:44

Phil had a huge impact on him.

0:30:440:30:47

Brian loved that "wall of sound" that Phil Spector had,

0:30:470:30:52

and he loved the records that Phil Spector made,

0:30:520:30:55

and Phil was a genius, too, you know,

0:30:550:30:57

he was making hit after hit after hit.

0:30:570:30:59

# Be my, be my baby

0:30:590:31:02

# Be my little baby

0:31:020:31:04

# My one and only baby...#

0:31:040:31:07

Phil Spector got word about us,

0:31:070:31:09

and Phil came and we started working at Gold Star for Phil.

0:31:090:31:14

Almost everything we touched with Phil Spector became giant hits.

0:31:140:31:19

Big hits.

0:31:190:31:20

And he was calling us the Wall of Sound.

0:31:200:31:23

There would be four or five guitar players,

0:31:230:31:26

three or four piano players, always one drummer.

0:31:260:31:30

Two bass players, he liked to use an upright bass player

0:31:310:31:34

with a Fender bass player.

0:31:340:31:36

And then he would have a percussion section, and that was it.

0:31:360:31:39

We were all in one room.

0:31:390:31:40

But it made a wonderful sound.

0:31:400:31:42

And Brian fell in love with that sound.

0:31:420:31:46

He wanted the same enthusiasm,

0:31:460:31:50

he wanted the same musicians.

0:31:500:31:53

There were four or five of us who were always with Brian.

0:31:530:31:56

The Wall of Sound, you have to give Phil Spector credit for building it.

0:31:560:32:00

But I think the wall that Brian built was more textured,

0:32:000:32:04

and much more subtle.

0:32:040:32:06

There's just sort of a musicality to Brian's work that goes beyond

0:32:060:32:11

what Spector ever dreamed of.

0:32:110:32:13

# I came along when he broke your heart

0:32:240:32:29

# That's when you needed someone

0:32:290:32:32

# To help forget about him... #

0:32:320:32:34

Well, I wanted to mix up a love song with a happy song.

0:32:340:32:38

Put the two together.

0:32:380:32:39

It's too easy to give all the credit to Brian and Tony Asher.

0:32:390:32:43

I'm Waiting For The Day is great, and that's not Tony Asher,

0:32:430:32:45

that's an example of Mike having real skill as a writer.

0:32:450:32:48

We were dealing with emotions, and Waiting For The Day is a

0:32:480:32:52

beautiful way of saying that you find something special in someone

0:32:520:32:56

and they may not be ready at that moment in time to engage.

0:32:560:33:00

But you find that they're worth waiting for.

0:33:000:33:04

# I kissed your lips when your face looked sad

0:33:040:33:10

# It made me think about him

0:33:100:33:13

# And that you still loved him so... #

0:33:130:33:16

Brian is such an artist that he allowed the genius of these players

0:33:160:33:20

to also come into the equation.

0:33:200:33:22

No-one appreciated these great players more than Brian.

0:33:220:33:25

This was the very beginnings of rock and roll, remember.

0:33:250:33:30

Many musicians refused to play rock and roll music.

0:33:300:33:34

They said it's junk, it's garbage, it's rotten, it's dirty.

0:33:340:33:37

Because they were always in suits and ties, you know, very straight.

0:33:370:33:40

No smoking, you know.

0:33:400:33:43

Who knew that we were going to move in and take over this kind of thing?

0:33:430:33:48

And then the guys that were doing all the movie calls, the film calls,

0:33:480:33:52

said, "Those guys are going to wreck the business."

0:33:520:33:55

The tracking was fun, I think, for him,

0:33:550:33:58

because he got to hang with The Wrecking Crew, and just experiment

0:33:580:34:02

to heck, and spend as much money as he wanted, you know.

0:34:020:34:05

He was like a kid in a candy shop.

0:34:050:34:08

These players could play anything, and Brian just had this

0:34:080:34:14

baby symphony pool of amazing musicians to work with.

0:34:140:34:19

# I'm waiting for the day when you can love again. #

0:34:200:34:28

It was extremely unusual to see

0:34:350:34:37

a female musician working in the studios.

0:34:370:34:40

Carol Kaye was a standout woman in her own right in that capacity.

0:34:400:34:44

She was the best, she was better than any men around, so, you know,

0:34:440:34:48

why not use the best?

0:34:480:34:50

WALKING BASS

0:34:500:34:52

I always love that walking line.

0:34:520:34:54

STUDIO RECORDING: In fact, go like this...

0:34:550:34:57

Dun-doo-de-doo-de-doo-de-doo-de-doo- de-doo-de-doo-de-boom!

0:34:570:35:01

WALKING BASS

0:35:010:35:04

Carol Kaye's bass sound

0:35:070:35:09

is a really subtle undertone to a lot of Pet Sounds.

0:35:090:35:14

But it's there like an anchor. It's there in I'm Waiting For The Day.

0:35:140:35:17

Quite driving guitar and drums, really pushing the song along,

0:35:170:35:22

and then you've got her cool bass notes in there, just anchoring it,

0:35:220:35:27

you know, keeping it grounded.

0:35:270:35:29

Well, she was very creative, and she played right on the beat, you know.

0:35:290:35:32

She wouldn't, like, flub up, she would play right on the beat.

0:35:320:35:37

When we used to record in those days, we made decisions.

0:35:370:35:41

Nothing was left until later,

0:35:410:35:42

because we only had three to four tracks.

0:35:420:35:45

If you were putting the rhythm all on one track, and when you got your

0:35:450:35:48

sounds, you put your delays in, you did your echo, you did it live,

0:35:480:35:53

and that's the sound I hear in my head,

0:35:530:35:54

that's what I want, let's record it.

0:35:540:35:56

# It starts with just a little glance now

0:35:560:36:00

# Right away you're thinking about romance now

0:36:000:36:04

# You know you ought to take it slower

0:36:040:36:08

# But you just can't wait to get to know her

0:36:080:36:12

# A brand-new love affair is such a beautiful thing

0:36:120:36:17

# But if you're not careful

0:36:190:36:21

# Think about the pain it can bring... #

0:36:210:36:24

it's very much the album of someone in their 20s.

0:36:240:36:27

That youthful exploration of love.

0:36:270:36:31

And there's existential angst in there.

0:36:310:36:33

I was experiencing, you know, love and...

0:36:330:36:39

having those kinds of...

0:36:390:36:41

You know, it was that time in my life, you know.

0:36:410:36:44

The quest of the mid-'60s was to define what love is.

0:36:440:36:49

That's what the counterculture was all about.

0:36:490:36:52

It feels genuine to me, when I listen to that stuff.

0:36:520:36:56

# Right now you think that she's perfection

0:36:560:37:00

# This time is really an exception

0:37:000:37:04

# Well, you know I hate to be a downer

0:37:040:37:08

# But I'm the guy she left before you found her... #

0:37:080:37:11

We experimented with the musicians a lot, you know.

0:37:110:37:15

It was all experimentation, and it went on and on for about two months

0:37:150:37:20

to get the album recorded.

0:37:200:37:22

He had different relationships with different people, from the best I can tell.

0:37:220:37:26

And that's why he would go from studio to studio

0:37:260:37:30

searching out a particular feeling that he was looking for.

0:37:300:37:33

And that was a real departure,

0:37:330:37:34

because all the other Capitol artists had to record at Capitol,

0:37:340:37:37

or it was a slap in the face at Capitol.

0:37:370:37:39

But we let him record where he wanted to record.

0:37:390:37:42

He was bringing in great records.

0:37:420:37:44

Brian never came in before two o'clock.

0:37:440:37:47

It was almost always at Western Studios, Studio Three,

0:37:470:37:52

which was a small studio, and

0:37:520:37:54

he'd say, "I have a new song.

0:37:540:37:57

"I'm writing a new song, and I want to record it."

0:37:570:38:01

He would start out... He basically knew where it was going to go.

0:38:010:38:06

A lot of times, we didn't know,

0:38:060:38:08

and you've got to remember that we were looking at songs

0:38:080:38:10

that didn't have titles on it.

0:38:100:38:12

It was just the chord sheets,

0:38:120:38:14

or maybe a few sketched out lines that Brian would write.

0:38:140:38:17

I would hand them all their manuscript papers that I wrote,

0:38:170:38:20

then I'd take each guy and say,

0:38:200:38:23

"Let me hear the bass player play it for a minute." We'd get them.

0:38:230:38:26

Then I'd do the guitar players, the pianos, and the horns.

0:38:260:38:30

I talked to them individually and collectively.

0:38:300:38:34

They were all good, good for it, for me.

0:38:340:38:36

He would sing parts to the guys, and they would write it down.

0:38:360:38:41

He would lay out the rhythm the way that he wanted it,

0:38:410:38:44

and the bass lines.

0:38:440:38:46

I mean, he would work the chart in the room

0:38:460:38:48

before he went into the control room.

0:38:480:38:50

Because he had it up here.

0:38:500:38:52

They took my direction.

0:38:520:38:54

I would tell them what to play and they'd play it.

0:38:540:38:57

That's organ...

0:38:570:38:58

tack piano together.

0:39:000:39:02

There were always three pianos.

0:39:020:39:05

And it was a special tuning that we arrived at.

0:39:050:39:11

I worked with the piano tuner to try different things, and I did put

0:39:110:39:14

tacks on the head of each hammer,

0:39:140:39:18

and Brian immediately was attracted to it,

0:39:190:39:23

and it became kind of a signature sound.

0:39:230:39:26

TACK PIANO PLAYS

0:39:320:39:34

# Love is here

0:39:340:39:37

# Today, and it's gone

0:39:370:39:40

# Tomorrow, it's here

0:39:400:39:43

# And gone so fast... #

0:39:430:39:49

They knew he was a special guy, musically.

0:39:490:39:53

And sometimes they'd help him write something down in a part,

0:39:530:39:58

but it was all up here in his head,

0:39:580:40:01

and he somehow communicated it to all the players, and sometimes...

0:40:010:40:05

"Brian, you can't do that." And then they'd play it and you'd get,

0:40:050:40:08

"That's pretty good, Brian." You know, it was so cool.

0:40:080:40:11

I would try to develop the arrangement

0:40:110:40:13

to fit the song, the melody.

0:40:130:40:15

You know, I would write the melody and then I would try to make the

0:40:150:40:17

arrangements kind of like surround the melody.

0:40:170:40:20

And we started getting reports about it.

0:40:200:40:23

"Brian's doing something really special, guys.

0:40:230:40:26

"He really is."

0:40:260:40:27

But we were on tour in Japan.

0:40:270:40:29

As soon as we got back, we began to listen to the material.

0:40:290:40:31

I mean, he couldn't wait for us to get down to the studio.

0:40:310:40:34

He didn't care about jet lag or any of that stuff.

0:40:340:40:37

It didn't mean anything to him.

0:40:370:40:40

But it was... It was sobering.

0:40:400:40:43

We had to really buckle down.

0:40:430:40:45

Now, in the case of Here Today, and about half of Pet Sounds,

0:40:450:40:48

Brian cut the vocals at CBS up the street.

0:40:480:40:52

I think, primarily, because they had the only one-inch eight-track in town.

0:40:520:40:56

A couple three-tracks of backgrounds.

0:40:560:40:59

# Right away you're thinking 'bout romancing... #

0:40:590:41:03

HARMONY VOCALS

0:41:030:41:07

-Again, they're probably doubled or tripled.

-Doubled, yeah.

0:41:070:41:10

I think he's a visionary.

0:41:100:41:12

He is a musical visionary, as well as a social...

0:41:120:41:16

In a social context as well, a visionary.

0:41:160:41:19

He sees things I don't think the rest of us see.

0:41:210:41:24

You know, and hears things, certainly, that we don't hear.

0:41:240:41:28

So, he's one of those special...

0:41:280:41:30

He's got a special receiver going on up there in his brain.

0:41:300:41:35

Brian truly is the most gifted music person that I've ever met.

0:41:350:41:41

I hate it when they call him genius, because... And they're right, but

0:41:410:41:45

don't do that, that's too big of a load to carry on your shoulders.

0:41:450:41:49

But he's so gifted.

0:41:490:41:50

He didn't realise his talent.

0:41:500:41:55

I still think he doesn't.

0:41:550:41:57

One of the magical things about Brian is he was able to describe

0:41:570:42:02

without having it on the written page

0:42:020:42:04

exactly the sound that he heard.

0:42:040:42:07

Boy, then you'd hear them as they were

0:42:070:42:10

transformed, really, in that process.

0:42:100:42:13

It was staggering.

0:42:130:42:16

And when he heard it, that was it.

0:42:160:42:18

And that was The Beach Boys' sound.

0:42:180:42:20

I don't know what your definition of genius is,

0:42:200:42:22

but he certainly might be.

0:42:220:42:25

I think genius just means clever.

0:42:250:42:27

I don't think it really has any real meaning.

0:42:270:42:30

It just means you're good at something, genius-like, you know.

0:42:300:42:33

Like Albert Einstein was a genius.

0:42:330:42:36

# Hang on to your ego

0:42:360:42:40

# Hang on, but I know that you're gonna lose the fight

0:42:400:42:45

# They come on like their peaceful

0:42:470:42:50

# But inside they're so uptight

0:42:500:42:56

# They trip through the day and waste all their thoughts at night

0:42:560:43:01

# Now how can I say it

0:43:040:43:09

# And how can I come on

0:43:090:43:11

# When I know I'm guilty...? #

0:43:110:43:14

There was a lot of LSD around.

0:43:140:43:17

Brian heard that sometimes the acid

0:43:170:43:21

gives you certain colours that you didn't know existed, et cetera, et cetera.

0:43:210:43:27

Well, I think he was experimenting a little bit then, too.

0:43:270:43:30

He told us that he was doing acid during California Girls,

0:43:300:43:33

so... "Oh."

0:43:330:43:35

I was very sceptical about doing any of that stuff.

0:43:350:43:38

I looked askance at anything

0:43:380:43:41

having to do with that kind of drug culture influence.

0:43:410:43:46

# Hang on to your ego

0:43:460:43:50

# Hang on, but I know that you're gonna lose the fight... #

0:43:500:43:56

Mike disagreed on Hang On To Your Ego, which allegedly is...

0:43:560:44:02

if you take LSD, you have to hang on to your ego.

0:44:020:44:05

You know, and he didn't really think that fit the image

0:44:050:44:08

of The Beach Boys to allude to that.

0:44:080:44:11

To me, that...

0:44:110:44:13

that was a little too drug-influenced.

0:44:130:44:16

You know, this track has been subject to all kinds of speculation

0:44:160:44:19

and contention that, you know, this was the track that got fought over

0:44:190:44:24

and that Mike didn't like the lyrics.

0:44:240:44:27

ISOLATED VOCAL TRACK: # They come on like they're peaceful

0:44:270:44:30

MOCKING: # But inside they're so uptight... #

0:44:300:44:34

Why don't I do a Jimmy Durante?

0:44:340:44:36

They come on like they're peaceful, but inside they're so uptight!

0:44:360:44:41

OK, I'm sorry.

0:44:410:44:43

-We'll do another take for our own, OK?

-OK.

0:44:430:44:44

-Another take like that as soon as we're done, OK?

-Check.

0:44:440:44:47

All I was saying is I would make my feelings known if I felt it was

0:44:470:44:51

going too far out on a limb lyrically,

0:44:510:44:54

or conceptually, having

0:44:540:44:58

some relationship to some kind of drugs and stuff like that.

0:44:580:45:02

I didn't know what an ego was at the time,

0:45:020:45:04

but I learned very quickly.

0:45:040:45:06

So, I came up with an alternative lyric

0:45:060:45:08

called I Know There's An Answer.

0:45:080:45:10

# I know there's an answer

0:45:100:45:14

# I know now, but I had to find it by myself... #

0:45:140:45:20

But the two exist.

0:45:320:45:34

But I Know There's An Answer is what came out on the Pet Sounds issue.

0:45:340:45:38

It is my great suspicion that the experimentation that had to happen

0:45:380:45:44

for Brian to become the great artist that he was

0:45:440:45:46

had nothing to do with chemicals.

0:45:460:45:48

If drugs made you a genius, we'd have a lot more Pet Sounds,

0:45:480:45:52

and we do not.

0:45:520:45:54

He didn't necessarily explain what it was he was trying to do,

0:45:540:45:59

but he acknowledged that this was different stuff.

0:45:590:46:01

He said, "I don't want to keep doing the same stuff over and over."

0:46:010:46:04

If you went back and looked at all of The Beach Boys' stuff

0:46:040:46:07

that was created prior to that, there was a sameness to it.

0:46:070:46:12

And it was good, very good, and it wasn't like anybody was getting

0:46:120:46:16

tired of it, really, I don't think,

0:46:160:46:19

but, you know, what Mike said, "Don't fuck with the formula."

0:46:190:46:23

He said, "Why are we trying to...?

0:46:230:46:25

"We've got this great thing, and until somebody can show me that it's

0:46:250:46:30

"not working, why are we

0:46:300:46:33

"fumbling around trying to find something else?"

0:46:330:46:35

Well, that's not a crazy question,

0:46:350:46:37

I mean, that's a reasonable question to ask.

0:46:370:46:41

But Brian saw it a whole different way, which was,

0:46:410:46:43

"God, I've done that, it's boring, I'm tired of it."

0:46:430:46:46

And that was something that would never have occurred to Mike.

0:46:460:46:49

And he said, "Don't mess with the formula,"

0:46:490:46:51

and I said, "I want to advance to a better music place."

0:46:510:46:55

We wouldn't have had as good an album if I didn't. You know?

0:46:550:46:59

Part of that, I think, led to me getting a bad rap for,

0:46:590:47:06

quote-unquote, not liking Pet Sounds or something, which is absolute...

0:47:060:47:11

You know, it's just an absolute falsehood.

0:47:110:47:15

Because not only did I name the album Pet Sounds,

0:47:150:47:19

and went with Brian to present it to Capitol Records,

0:47:190:47:23

but I sang on every single song that was sung on.

0:47:230:47:27

I was very satisfied. Tony was, too.

0:47:270:47:29

We both were.

0:47:290:47:31

We both thought we'd really achieved a good album.

0:47:310:47:34

Brian and I went off to Capitol Records to

0:47:340:47:36

play it for Karl Engemann, who was the A&R man for Capitol Records.

0:47:360:47:41

Capitol Records loved The Beach Boys.

0:47:410:47:43

I mean, they didn't criticise them in any way, except they thought that

0:47:430:47:48

maybe going in the direction that Pet Sounds wasn't something that...

0:47:480:47:51

It wasn't going to be as wonderful as

0:47:510:47:54

the hotrod records,

0:47:540:47:56

the surfing records, those kinds of things.

0:47:560:47:58

Well, I couldn't understand why they didn't like it. I said, "This is good music."

0:47:580:48:02

They said, "But it's not commercial music."

0:48:020:48:04

Brian thought it would never be released,

0:48:040:48:06

because Capitol wanted that surf thing, that's what was selling.

0:48:060:48:12

So they didn't release it, and a little bit later,

0:48:120:48:14

a few weeks later, they said, "OK, we'll release it."

0:48:140:48:17

So, they released it on the market, and it didn't sell very good.

0:48:170:48:21

It hadn't gone the same height on the charts as some of the prior

0:48:210:48:25

records, so Capitol, right away, in order to make quota,

0:48:250:48:29

they went and put out a Best Of The Beach Boys.

0:48:290:48:32

We were in competition with our history.

0:48:320:48:35

The faith of the label was right there, everybody.

0:48:350:48:37

"We have Pet Sounds out!

0:48:370:48:39

"By the way, we're going to put out Best Of The Beach Boys, Volume One."

0:48:390:48:43

Can you believe that?

0:48:430:48:45

It's just so asinine.

0:48:450:48:47

And it didn't do as well as some of the other albums,

0:48:470:48:49

and it might have if there had been more of a spirit

0:48:490:48:52

within the company of, "No, this is great and we're going to

0:48:520:48:55

"push this thing and take it right to where it should be."

0:48:550:48:57

Well, it's not what we were expecting. I would say we were actually grateful for that.

0:48:570:49:01

My God, you know. Why do you want only what people expect, you know?

0:49:010:49:04

That's... How sad, you know, that is.

0:49:040:49:06

They just didn't understand it, you know.

0:49:060:49:09

The direction...

0:49:090:49:10

They didn't know what to do with it. They're a marketing firm.

0:49:100:49:14

How do you market The Beach Boys with Pet Sounds?

0:49:140:49:17

"Well, we'll send you down to the San Diego Zoo

0:49:170:49:19

"and we'll photograph you with a bunch of damned goats."

0:49:190:49:22

I mean, what's that all about?

0:49:220:49:24

That was the biggest miscarriage of justice of all.

0:49:240:49:27

MUSIC: Pet Sounds by The Beach Boys

0:49:270:49:29

After the album was mixed, Bruce is off to England.

0:50:170:50:22

I took two copies of Pet Sounds with me.

0:50:220:50:25

With the sole intention of promoting the album

0:50:250:50:29

and playing it to people for the first time.

0:50:290:50:31

You know, and Derek Taylor was our publicist,

0:50:310:50:33

and he just set up about 25 interviews for me.

0:50:330:50:38

I got to meet him at the Waldorf Hotel.

0:50:380:50:41

Journalists came over.

0:50:410:50:43

I think that's where I met Keith Altham.

0:50:430:50:45

And one of his people came and said,

0:50:450:50:48

"Oh, Lennon and McCartney are in your room.

0:50:480:50:51

"They want to hear the album. Can you go up and play it to them?"

0:50:510:50:54

I played them the album, and they heard it two times,

0:50:540:50:58

and they were delightful.

0:50:580:51:00

And he played it to them twice. They loved it.

0:51:000:51:02

Paul McCartney said God Only Knows was the perfect song.

0:51:020:51:05

STUDIO RECORDING: This will be take one. Take one. God Only Knows.

0:51:050:51:11

One, two...

0:51:110:51:14

INSTRUMENTAL TRACK

0:51:140:51:17

Nice. Nice, Don...

0:51:190:51:21

OK, could we go to the spot where the ba-dah, duh-dah, doo-doo-doo...

0:51:390:51:45

That spot?

0:51:450:51:46

Well, that part was...

0:51:460:51:48

HE PLAYS LONG NOTES

0:51:480:51:54

And it was bothering Brian.

0:51:540:51:56

And we had done it a number of times.

0:51:560:51:59

And my suggestion was,

0:51:590:52:01

"Brian, why don't we play it short?"

0:52:010:52:03

He said, "What do you mean?"

0:52:030:52:05

HE PLAYS SHORTER NOTES

0:52:050:52:09

Almost pizzicato.

0:52:090:52:10

-Brian?

-Yeah.

0:52:100:52:11

Why don't we do it short, like this?

0:52:110:52:14

HE PLAYS TACK PIANO

0:52:140:52:17

We'll try it.

0:52:220:52:25

Yeah, I remember that.

0:52:260:52:27

Bom-bap! Yeah.

0:52:270:52:30

-Don Randi kind of came up with that...

-Right.

-..to play it staccato.

0:52:300:52:34

It's so musical that it's a pleasure to play with it.

0:52:340:52:38

I don't think Brian ever realised that what he was doing was

0:52:380:52:41

so incredibly wonderful.

0:52:410:52:44

God Only Knows makes a deep love song, because Tony Asher had

0:52:440:52:47

a lot of love and his heart, and he wrote great love lyrics.

0:52:470:52:50

A match made in heaven for those two.

0:52:500:52:53

The could evolve something like that into such perfection.

0:52:530:52:58

One of the greatest love songs of all time begins with

0:52:580:53:00

"I may not always love you," which is, you know,

0:53:000:53:02

the antithesis of what people want in a love song.

0:53:020:53:06

We held each other up to a certain standard, and said,

0:53:060:53:09

"You know, we don't want to do that same old stuff,

0:53:090:53:12

another love song, "I love you because..." You know, whatever.

0:53:120:53:15

So, that's how...

0:53:150:53:17

When I would come up with a line like "I may not always love you,"

0:53:180:53:23

Brian might have said at the time,

0:53:230:53:28

"What?" You know.

0:53:280:53:30

But he would only have said it once.

0:53:300:53:31

And if I said, "Don't worry about it, Brian, that's a good line," he would have said, "OK,"

0:53:310:53:35

and then he would listen to it a few times and say, "Yeah, I like it."

0:53:350:53:38

I think "I may not always love you" was the great line that he wrote.

0:53:380:53:42

# I may not always love you

0:53:420:53:46

# But long as there are stars above you

0:53:460:53:50

# You'll never need to doubt it

0:53:500:53:54

# I'll make you so sure about it

0:53:540:53:59

# God only knows what I'd be without you... #

0:53:590:54:05

I'm surprised Brian didn't sing it himself.

0:54:050:54:08

But he wanted Carl to have it.

0:54:080:54:11

# Though life would still go on, believe me

0:54:110:54:15

# The world could show nothing to me

0:54:150:54:19

# So what good would living do me

0:54:190:54:23

# God only knows what I'd be without you... #

0:54:230:54:29

Carl had an ethereal voice. Beautiful.

0:54:290:54:32

Brian understood the great character of the voices in The Beach Boys,

0:54:320:54:37

and wrote to those characters beautifully.

0:54:370:54:40

And it's not like Brian was the best voice for all of his songs.

0:54:400:54:44

I remember when I first ever heard the record of God Only Knows,

0:54:440:54:49

when that came out, I was blown away.

0:54:490:54:51

Again, the harmonies, the intricacy of the arrangements.

0:54:510:54:55

It was wonderful, and to actually be asked to go on tour with them

0:54:550:54:58

was a thrill.

0:54:580:54:59

And now come the backgrounds.

0:54:590:55:02

ISOLATED HARMONY BACKING VOCALS

0:55:020:55:07

# God only knows what I'd be without you

0:55:170:55:23

# If you should ever leave me

0:55:250:55:28

# Though life would still go on, believe me

0:55:280:55:32

# The world could show nothing to me

0:55:320:55:36

# So what good would living do me?

0:55:360:55:41

# God only knows what I'd be without you... #

0:55:410:55:47

I think they liked the lyrics,

0:55:470:55:49

because it's a great love song and a great love lyric.

0:55:490:55:51

They all told me they liked it. They said, "I love this song!"

0:55:510:55:54

They told me that.

0:55:540:55:56

There's Bruce.

0:55:560:55:57

-# God only knows what I'd be without you...

-#

0:56:020:56:05

And there's the part you didn't use.

0:56:050:56:07

-Bam-bop-bop...

-Right.

0:56:070:56:09

Although I always liked it.

0:56:100:56:12

-I didn't use that.

-No.

0:56:120:56:14

The first time I really got what he was doing was God Only Knows.

0:56:140:56:19

We talked about...

0:56:200:56:21

something very esoteric, within, like a family,

0:56:230:56:26

a brother has a secret but allows you to know it in an art form.

0:56:260:56:30

He was able to organise his thoughts to a point where they were

0:56:300:56:36

hypnotic, but yet entertaining, meaningful, and spiritual, too.

0:56:360:56:41

For want of a better phrase, it's where rock and roll

0:56:410:56:43

becomes a religious experience.

0:56:430:56:45

This sentiment in it, that he has in it, towards...

0:56:450:56:49

God only knows how much I love you, you know, only God knows,

0:56:490:56:52

because it's a feeling within myself,

0:56:520:56:54

that nobody else can know except God.

0:56:540:56:57

# God only knows what I'd be without you

0:56:570:57:02

# God only knows what I'd be without you

0:57:020:57:05

# God only knows... #

0:57:050:57:06

# God only knows what I'd be without you... #

0:57:060:57:09

I was so inspired that I wrote a great album.

0:57:090:57:12

I knew people would like it. I knew they would.

0:57:120:57:14

Half a century later, we're still reckoning with this record

0:57:140:57:17

because Brian went as deep as pop music can go.

0:57:170:57:23

It put the standards up.

0:57:230:57:25

It said, "This is how good it can be, and you better go away and think

0:57:250:57:28

"about it, Mr Lennon and McCartney,

0:57:280:57:31

"Mr Jagger and Richards, Mr Townshend.

0:57:310:57:33

"You better go away and think about what you're doing next,

0:57:330:57:36

"because it could be this good."

0:57:360:57:38

It was...

0:57:380:57:40

Something that hadn't been done before,

0:57:400:57:43

and everything else came after that.

0:57:430:57:45

It took 20 years for it to go platinum.

0:57:450:57:47

It was ridiculous how long it took.

0:57:470:57:50

And yet, at the same time, it was regarded so highly.

0:57:500:57:53

One of the great albums of all time,

0:57:530:57:55

maybe the greatest album of all time.

0:57:550:57:57

It's a piece of art.

0:57:570:57:59

Sonic art, vocal art, that'll last forever.

0:57:590:58:02

It has everything in it.

0:58:020:58:04

It has really fabulous chord structures, arrangements,

0:58:040:58:08

performance, great songs to sing.

0:58:080:58:11

Yeah, he did something in Pet Sounds, all right.

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He opened the door for a lot of people.

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But especially me.

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A lot of people are uplifted by it.

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He grew immensely during that time,

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and he's being rewarded for it now, 50 years later.

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Isn't that nice?

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My love for music inspires me.

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I love music.

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# I had to prove that I could make it alone now

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# But that's not me

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# I wanted to show how independent I'd grown now

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# But that's not me

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# I could try to be big in the eyes of the world

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# What matters to me is what I could be

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# To just one girl... #

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