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And now we're going to play another hit from The Wailers, | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
called Catch A Fire. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
MUSIC STARTS | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
# Yeah, slave driver | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
# The table is turn | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
# Catch your fire | 0:00:44 | 0:00:46 | |
# You're gonna get burn | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
-# Catch a fire. # -Oh, yeah! | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
# Slave driver | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
-# The table is turn -Catch a fire | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
# Catch a fire | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
-# You're gonna get burn -Catch a fire | 0:01:00 | 0:01:04 | |
# Yeah, every time I hear the crack of a whip | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
# My blood runs cold... # | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
This is stand up and talk for my rights. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
I know what that is. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:15 | |
We're revolutionaries, you know? | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
Hear this, myself as a revolutionary, | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
who do have no help and nah take no bribe from no-one, | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
but fight it single-handed with music. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
# Today they say that we are free | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
# Only to be chained in poverty | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
# Good God, I think it's illiteracy... # | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
It's just a matter of proving our potential, see? | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
And a matter of spreading more messages, because | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
when we were together, we were singular. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
It was one message. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
# Catch your fire, you're gonna get burn... # | 0:01:56 | 0:02:02 | |
So it was a total discipline | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
and a responsibility that we knew we had. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:09 | |
That we couldn't stop, or turn back, | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
under no circumstances. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
So that is in the militancy that The Wailers had. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:17 | |
It's like, against all odds. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
And we still move. Still carry that. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
Still going, the flag's got to be hoisted. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
# Let's stir it up | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
# Little darlin' | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
# Stir it up | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
# Little darlin' | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
# Stir it up... # | 0:02:49 | 0:02:50 | |
It would be very hard to exaggerate the extent to which reggae | 0:02:50 | 0:02:56 | |
was despised among rock fans, | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
in Britain and America, | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
insofar as they knew about it at all in America. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
But in Britain there were occasional reggae hits, | 0:03:03 | 0:03:05 | |
chart hits, in those days, things like Fattie Boom Boom. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
And that was really the only reggae that the average rock fan heard. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:13 | |
And that was he, or she, based their impression on. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
And it was a, kind of, novelty music. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
Crude, cheap, not to be taken seriously on any level. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
So, the job of conversion had to be done. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:28 | |
# ..you're gonna get burned. # | 0:03:28 | 0:03:32 | |
We were in London to see if we could establish ourselves, | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
as well as the music. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:53 | |
# Slave driver... # | 0:03:55 | 0:03:56 | |
It seems as if you don't get the message, ah? | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
-The Clavinet... -INDISTINCT | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
'We rehearsed together round the clock.' | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
# Little darling, it's been a long, long time | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
# Since I've got... # | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
We were rehearsing for nearly three months. So... | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
You know, we decided that we would take up an invitation | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
that was there. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
Chris Blackwell was interested in seeing us | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
for some kind of discussion. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:33 | |
You see, they had a reputation of being very hard to deal with. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
They were independent guys, you know. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
And everybody said, you know, they're impossible to deal with. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
And I felt that the only way to establish | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
a relationship with them was to show some trust to them. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
And so that's really what I did, | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
in that I gave them the money to go and make the record. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
But he offered us...£4,000. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
Which we took...and we went ahead... | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
..and did the album. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
As some of the songs that are on Catch A Fire | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
are songs that were already recorded | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
by The Wailers, | 0:05:34 | 0:05:35 | |
It wasn't any kind of a hassle to do the album. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
It was simply Wailers-type thing, | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
just going into the studio and doing an album. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
# Stir it up | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
# Little darlin' | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
# Stir it up | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
# Come on, baby | 0:05:52 | 0:05:53 | |
# Come on and stir it up | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
# Little darlin' | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
# Stir it up | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
# Little darlin'... # | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
Blackwell was sitting down wondering if we were ever going to return | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
with an album. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
So it was a challenge for us to prove to him, you know, | 0:06:16 | 0:06:21 | |
different from what he thought. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
So we just had to get to the point. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
So the album was done in, like, record time! | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
# It's been a long, long time | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
# Since I've got you on my mind | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
# Oh-oh, yeah, yeah | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
# And now you are here... # | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
Bob seemed to have a disciplined set of chaps, you know? | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
They seemed to have done a lot of rehearsals. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
Because whenever they did a tune, it was that tight, you know? | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
The normal chaps, the other chaps wouldn't have it that tight. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
And I think probably it was because of the amount of rehearsal time | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
that they put in. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:04 | |
They were very disciplined in terms of where the musical section is concerned, | 0:07:04 | 0:07:09 | |
I think Bob had them going that way, you know. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
# Let's stir it up | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
# Little darlin'... # | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
# Stir it up | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
# Little darlin' | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
# It's a long, long time... # | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
And once you started doing all that, you're listening to the singer, | 0:07:32 | 0:07:36 | |
because the singer is singing, so you start listening because the bassline is already there. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:41 | |
So you start to listen to the singer. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
And you get his... So you have to listen to it all, the bass, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
once you jam with the bass, | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
then you are all right, the bass is settled, | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
then you start dealing with the keyboard - | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
sometimes the keyboard would play something that's sweet, | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
and you just... DRRANG! | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
Or sometimes the guitar will make a shuffle - CHANG-K-CHANG - | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
and you go DRAATANN! It depends on the feel. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
Once you get the feel. But the main people are the bass and drums. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
After recording them, Bob himself took the eight-track tapes to London | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
where he remixed and overdubbed them with Chris Blackwell. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
He has a great voice for recording, because it's in the frequencies | 0:08:32 | 0:08:37 | |
which you need to cut through, | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
you can surround it with instruments at a high level, | 0:08:39 | 0:08:45 | |
but his voice is of a frequency that it can really cut through. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
The premise behind the people at Island Studios tended to be | 0:08:55 | 0:09:00 | |
based more on the musical aspect of recordings | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
rather than the technical excellence of the recordings. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
But even technically, these recordings were fabulous. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:11 | |
With Stir It Up, what I was trying to merge it into was more of a | 0:09:13 | 0:09:18 | |
sort of hypnotic type feel, | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
with the kind of wah-wah feel and | 0:09:21 | 0:09:26 | |
different sort of guitar, going all the way through it, | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
and make it less of the reggae rhythm and more of a drifting feel. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:34 | |
Because the experiment was, | 0:09:35 | 0:09:36 | |
for Chris Blackwell to help Bob break in America, | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
so we needed to add a little bit of something that | 0:09:39 | 0:09:43 | |
Americans were used to, like clavinets and things. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
So Bob was ready for that. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
But the thing they were trying to do by bridging the gap between | 0:09:49 | 0:09:55 | |
purist reggae and Americanised reggae, | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
which Americans could palate, was not purist. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
My parts on Catch A Fire are nowhere near purist, | 0:10:01 | 0:10:05 | |
they are an imitation of what Bob Marley taught me how to do. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
And so over the reggae... | 0:10:08 | 0:10:10 | |
HE PLAYS KEYBOARD | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
I was doing that. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:13 | |
This record had the most overdubs and it. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
This record was the most - I don't say softened, | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
but I'd more say, enhanced to try and reach a rock market, because | 0:10:36 | 0:10:41 | |
this was the first record, and they wanted to reach into that market. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
# Oh, yeah | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
# And now you are here, I say it's so clear | 0:10:49 | 0:10:55 | |
# To see what we could do, baby | 0:10:55 | 0:10:59 | |
# Just me and you | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
# Come on and stir it up | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
# Little darlin' | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
# Stir it up | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
# Come on, baby | 0:11:11 | 0:11:12 | |
# Come on and stir it up | 0:11:14 | 0:11:16 | |
# Little darlin' | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
# Stir it up... # | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
To get the first-ever reggae group on the Old Grey Whistle Test | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
was quite a coup, I think. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
And I think probably, some of the audience was upset to see that, | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
but it also was just one more thing that drew the Wailers into | 0:11:33 | 0:11:38 | |
the mainstream and made them acceptable. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
# Slave driver | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
# The table is turn... # | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
The music hits you, but you feel no pain. | 0:11:55 | 0:12:00 | |
But it's happening. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
And it's the same thing with the message. It hits you. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:07 | |
But you don't feel no pain. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
What it does for you is to give you a vision | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
and a reason to change your lifestyle, | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
your convictions - you know, it's like a purge. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:20 | |
# My blood runs cold | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
# I remember on the slave ship | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
# How they brutalised our very souls | 0:12:27 | 0:12:31 | |
# Today they say that we are free | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
# Only to be chained in poverty | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
# Oh, no, it's illiteracy | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
# It's only a machine that makes money | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
# Slave driver | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
# The table is turn | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
# Catch a fire, gonna get burned. # | 0:12:52 | 0:12:57 | |
# Slave driver | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
# The table is turn | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
# Catch a fire, yeah | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
# Catch a fire | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
# You're gonna get | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
# Catch a fire | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
# Slave driver | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
# The table is | 0:13:13 | 0:13:14 | |
# Catch a fire | 0:13:14 | 0:13:16 | |
# Catch a fire | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
# You're gonna get burn. # | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
When the Wailers came with songs like Slave Driver, | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
it was a total revolution within the music itself, the industry. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:34 | |
The people needed that revolution. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
Because there were things that had to be dealt with, | 0:13:38 | 0:13:42 | |
that singing about love could not deal with it. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
Within the focus of, "I love you". | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
We come to find out that we were living in this ghetto, | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
so-called, | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
which you know, consists of poor people, 99%... | 0:13:55 | 0:14:00 | |
..and there were people who were living in the general shitstem | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
who, you know, has no-one to help them, no-one to do nothing for them. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:12 | |
And we live in the same administration. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
Maybe we are the only ones who can express the people's feelings | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
through music. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
And because we can do that, the people love it. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
The group is the Wailers. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
For some reason, dem say Bob Marley and the Wailers, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:31 | |
I never tell no-one fi say that, from no time at all. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
But maybe for some reason dem do it, you know? | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
It's the Wailers, you know. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
Even until this day, don't let no man tell you different, | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
to me, Wailers was like a family. Still is. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
Even though Bob and Peter might not be here, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:53 | |
Wailers was like and still is a family up to this day. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:57 | |
Reggae music is the heartbeat of the people. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
It's the universal language. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
Bob say one good thing about it - "When it hits, you feel no pain". | 0:15:06 | 0:15:10 | |
So we're trying to express the lyrics within the melody, | 0:15:11 | 0:15:17 | |
so... | 0:15:17 | 0:15:18 | |
within that... that roots, that reggae roots, | 0:15:18 | 0:15:23 | |
with that R&B flavour, to get it across the world. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
You know, at first, the songs start with | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
a kind of humming sound from the harmony, you know? | 0:15:33 | 0:15:37 | |
All three singers singing this, sound like... | 0:15:37 | 0:15:42 | |
# Ooh-ooh. # You know? | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
So to give us a line like... | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
PLAYS BASSLINE | 0:15:47 | 0:15:52 | |
Like a moan feel. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
So, Slave Driver, that's what would come in... | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
Between myself, Bob and Peter, | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
we had to find a formula that would...be acceptable. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:31 | |
So what we did was laid down hard, | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
driving rhythm that suggests the basic reggae principles. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
And then now, we would put little bits and colourings | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
of here and there that would not take away | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
from the basic principles, | 0:16:52 | 0:16:54 | |
but would attract the international marketplace. | 0:16:54 | 0:17:01 | |
# Slave driver | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
# The table is | 0:17:06 | 0:17:07 | |
# Catch a fire | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
# Catch a fire | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
# You're gonna get burn, yeah, yeah. # | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
The tape that's playing now is the rough mix of the original recording | 0:17:42 | 0:17:47 | |
in Jamaica, probably the tape that Chris Blackwell made his decisions | 0:17:47 | 0:17:52 | |
of where to go with the album. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
This came over with the original tapes. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
Effectively, everything is there, the atmosphere is there, | 0:18:00 | 0:18:04 | |
which is 98% of it as far as I'm concerned. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
So, we had one, two, three, four, five, six, seven tracks | 0:18:08 | 0:18:13 | |
on the original tape. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
I can just show you here - that's the drums, | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
all the drums are mixed to one track. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
And then other tracks would have - | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
this is guitar and piano mixed together. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
And it's an interesting feature of the Jamaican reggae music, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:40 | |
because they were tight with the number of tracks they had available, | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
they would record everything in the same room, | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
and I believe that contributes greatly to the overall sound, | 0:18:46 | 0:18:51 | |
because different instruments feed down different microphones so that | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
the combination of the sounds is... | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
And then we added in some slide guitar, | 0:19:00 | 0:19:05 | |
with Wayne Perkins. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
# Rock it baby... # | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
So I'm listening, and I'm sitting here trying to figure out | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
what's going on and I can't find the "one" to save my ass - | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
I cannot find the one. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
So I'm going, "Chris, what's going on?" | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
He said, "Just stop and listen to it, don't listen to the bass," | 0:19:40 | 0:19:44 | |
and he brought the bass down for me just a little bit. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
I said, "All right, I'm listening." | 0:19:47 | 0:19:51 | |
All of a sudden, something starts to settle in and I'm going, | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
"OK. All right, roll the tape." | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
They started playing this strange music, I mean, | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
I've never heard the likes of. It was... | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
Compared to anything else I've ever heard in my life, the R&B, | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
the church music, anything I'd ever heard - this was backwards. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
And Bob had his guitar on and he was going, | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
Chk-chk-chk, like they do. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
And I was just meandering on the organ, like... | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
You know, and he was saying, "No, no. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
"Bumbaclart! Rasclart!" All this. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:45 | |
He said, "Organ, man, organ go like this." | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
And he came over to the organ and didn't play any notes, | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
he just slapped the keys and said, "I go, like... | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
"You go..." | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
Like that kind of thing. | 0:20:58 | 0:20:59 | |
And I said, "What do you mean?" | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
"No, no." And he played the chord like me. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
In other words, play a triad, so I made it a chord and went... | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
It's what he could teach you about his music that helped you with | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
your own music, if you know what I mean. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:21 | |
Feels. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
Playing from the heart, things like that. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
And to me, that's part of being a musician. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
# Baby, baby, we've got a date... # | 0:21:28 | 0:21:33 | |
It was a little child that hummed the melody first. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
You know, "Baby, baby, we've got a date." | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
And it sounded so childish, that we just followed through, | 0:21:41 | 0:21:46 | |
but it was a baby's melody. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
For a song by a little baby. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
# Rock it, baby, tonight | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
# Rock it, baby, rock it, baby, tonight | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
# Say we got to get together, babe, tonight | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
# Say we got to get together, babe, tonight | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
# Say we got to get together, babe, tonight | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
# Got to get together, babe, tonight... # | 0:22:09 | 0:22:13 | |
Everyone is in sync with each other. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
As one love, one heart, one aim, one destiny, one - it's a one thing. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:21 | |
It's all for one, one for all. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
So, it's... That's the Wailers' call, that's the Wailers' motto. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:30 | |
That's how we lived. That's how we survived. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
Now, Bob Marley, which was then called Robbie, Robert, | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
because he was Robert Nesta | 0:22:49 | 0:22:50 | |
before he became the great Bob Marley, he was Robert. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
He was more of a laid-back, stand back and watch you type. | 0:22:54 | 0:23:00 | |
And, "No, don't even talk to me." | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
You know that type, you would never want to say anything | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
to disturb his meditation. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
It would take someone coming from Saint Ann, | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
cos that's where he was born, to come to Kingston... | 0:23:19 | 0:23:24 | |
..and not be ambitious. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:28 | |
With that sort of parentage background - white father, | 0:23:29 | 0:23:34 | |
black mother, not knowing his father, never see him but once, | 0:23:34 | 0:23:38 | |
it's like, who the hell am I? | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
And there you have to go and prove yourself, that you are somebody. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
Cos I would sometimes say to him, "Bob, you know you're great." | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
And he says "Great what? Who the hell do you think I am?" | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
Just like he said in Buffalo Soldier, | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
"Who the hell do you think I am? But I'm a buffalo soldier." | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
So... | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
That's Bob... That's my taste of him. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
You know, from being married and having children | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
and raising a family from nothing, | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
sleeping on the floor - as he said, "Cold ground was my bed last night | 0:24:11 | 0:24:15 | |
"and rock stone was my pillow too." That's a fact, that's no joke. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
That's reality. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:21 | |
There was a real unity between them as youngster - Bob, Bunny and Peter. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:33 | |
They were like three brothers. Yeah, they loved each other, | 0:24:33 | 0:24:37 | |
they did everything well together. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
But Tosh told me one thing too. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
Even for him to do even two songs on that album, | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
leading the album, he had to pursue that, | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
force his way into leadership, because Peter would tell me | 0:24:49 | 0:24:55 | |
that most of the time, Bob would do all the leading. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
Don't care if he would write the song, arrange it, | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
Bob would always take the leading position and it would be very | 0:25:01 | 0:25:05 | |
difficult for him to even get an opportunity to lead a song. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
So he would have to fight his way in. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
# All my good life I've been a lonely man | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
# Teaching people who don't understand | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
# And even though I've tried my best | 0:25:24 | 0:25:29 | |
# I still can't find no happiness | 0:25:29 | 0:25:34 | |
# So I've got to say | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
# Stop that train, I'm leaving | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
# Stop that train, I'm leaving | 0:25:42 | 0:25:46 | |
# Stop that train, I'm leaving... # | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
We never credit no individual with this making of songs. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:57 | |
We made the songs together. | 0:25:57 | 0:25:59 | |
All we did was put the songs in one individual name, | 0:25:59 | 0:26:03 | |
and then when you got the returns, we split it three ways. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:07 | |
That was our code. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:08 | |
But essentially, this is halfway between folk song and a ballad, so... | 0:26:16 | 0:26:21 | |
It needed a different approach to the other ones, | 0:26:23 | 0:26:29 | |
that were just straight, rhythmic pieces. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
And also, it was interesting again, | 0:26:32 | 0:26:36 | |
mixing the two styles, because the organ overdubs there, | 0:26:36 | 0:26:40 | |
the sweeping line there, | 0:26:40 | 0:26:41 | |
is much more the thing that you would find in a rock ballad. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:46 | |
Whereas the... | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
That's just the straightforward reggae. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
And then these... little licks and lines. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
Bob always seemed to have a very clear idea of what | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
he wanted from the recordings. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
He would record everything, | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
cut all the tracks, and I would basically mix them, | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
and put them together in an arrangement, | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
and then compile the albums, in terms of their running order. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:17 | |
Somebody said to him one time, was I his producer? | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
and he said no, I was his translator. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
And I was very happy with that. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:24 | |
I think that's probably what I was doing. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
So, I was mixing them and arranging them and making them, you know, | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
what I felt would have the best chance of getting across. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:37 | |
It's very R&B. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
To me. It's great. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:47 | |
But it wasn't right...for where we were positioning that album. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:54 | |
Cos what... It's hard, at this point in time, | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
because Bob has become so huge - | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
frankly, on hearing Stir It Up in the raw version, | 0:28:01 | 0:28:05 | |
it sounds to me much better than the one we eventually did with it, now. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:09 | |
But at the time, one was really trying to change a perception, | 0:28:09 | 0:28:14 | |
you know, and reach a market. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
This is fantastic, too. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
Hearing it now, it's absolutely fantastic but it wouldn't have... | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
in my opinion, have suited that record. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:26 | |
# I said, I heard my mother | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
-# She was praying -Praying, praying, praying | 0:28:32 | 0:28:37 | |
-# And the words that she said -The words that she said... # | 0:28:39 | 0:28:45 | |
We used to relate to other musical cultures. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:49 | |
Especially on the UK side, or on the American side. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:54 | |
The Platters, the Drifters, James Brown, the Impressions, | 0:28:55 | 0:29:00 | |
all of the people who came down the ages. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:05 | |
# And stand by me in | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
# High seas or in low seas | 0:29:15 | 0:29:19 | |
# I'm going to be your friend | 0:29:21 | 0:29:23 | |
# He say, I'm going to be your friend... # | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
You remember Bob Marley? | 0:29:33 | 0:29:35 | |
You remember Bob Marley? | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
-I said, "You remember Bob Marley?" -Bob Marley? | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
Yes. I am talking about Bob Marley. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:44 | |
Yes. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:47 | |
Yeah, man. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:48 | |
Yeah, man. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:56 | |
Some people still searching for this truth here, | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
which this reggae music, you know, bring Christ to them. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:20 | |
And the only purpose itself is to tell the people who are Rastafarian. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:24 | |
This is stand up and talk for my rights. I know what that is. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:37 | |
See? And I don't care who the guy is. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:42 | |
Because my right is my right. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
Like my life. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
You know? All I have is my life. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
Well, I've been a Rasta from ever since...that me is your own man. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:59 | |
The first time you own yourself. You do what you want to do. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:03 | |
Anything people want to say about you, you don't care, | 0:31:03 | 0:31:06 | |
because the Bible says, "God sends him, he shall return as the King of Kings, | 0:31:06 | 0:31:10 | |
"the Lord of Lords, the conquering Lion of the tribe of Judah. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
"And he shall come in a new name." | 0:31:13 | 0:31:15 | |
Now, that is a reality and a world truth, | 0:31:21 | 0:31:23 | |
and the truth is that his Majesty's Earth rightful ruler. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:27 | |
And that is Haile Selassie, Haile I. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:29 | |
Bob exposes... | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
..a polite violence. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
# We don't need... # | 0:32:51 | 0:32:53 | |
HE SINGS | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
It was also very spiritual, you know. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
In other words, within their thought and their thinking. See? | 0:33:25 | 0:33:30 | |
They were thinking from a godly aspect. With their concerns. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
So they sort of put this in the music, how you heard it. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:38 | |
One, two... | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
'We were out to get that message out. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:52 | |
'The Father himself, he chose the time, the place and the | 0:33:54 | 0:33:59 | |
'people who would be involved in the establishment of reggae music. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:06 | |
You get that warm sound. You could feel it. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:23 | |
It was like painting a picture. Maybe it is red, gold and green. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:28 | |
But what shade of red you use at that side and what shade of gold, | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
shade of green. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:33 | |
-It's a picture. -HE LAUGHS | 0:34:35 | 0:34:37 | |
# We don't need no trouble | 0:34:39 | 0:34:41 | |
# We don't need | 0:34:43 | 0:34:48 | |
# No more trouble... # | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
I used to do a lot of English songs. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
Bring back the playback into the actual... | 0:34:56 | 0:35:00 | |
thing and get a sound and the voices. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:02 | |
You know, in those days that was, you know, slightly hi-tech. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:07 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:35:07 | 0:35:08 | |
Even though it was two track, you know what I mean? So, you know, | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
so I...you know... | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
got some feel from there, you know, experience teaches wisdom. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
And working with a lot of these chaps. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:21 | |
I suppose I got a feel, you know? | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
# We don't need | 0:35:24 | 0:35:25 | |
# We don't need | 0:35:27 | 0:35:28 | |
# No more trouble | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
-# Lord knows, we don't need no trouble... -# | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
The word "wail" means to cry or to mourn | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
or to express your feelings vocally. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:43 | |
# Seek happiness | 0:35:43 | 0:35:45 | |
# Come on, you all, and speak of love | 0:35:48 | 0:35:52 | |
# Oh, yeah | 0:35:52 | 0:35:54 | |
We listen to the radio and anything the radio play, is that we hear. | 0:35:56 | 0:36:01 | |
So, I wasn't really into them thing. I was really into, like... | 0:36:02 | 0:36:06 | |
Here, they call it... | 0:36:07 | 0:36:08 | |
..spiritual music. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
You know? Cos it get more revolutionised. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
You know? | 0:36:17 | 0:36:18 | |
# We don't need no trouble... # | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
RECORD SCRATCH | 0:36:20 | 0:36:22 | |
I could not go with him to a radio station. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
I couldn't take him in with me. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
I couldn't take him into the recording studios. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
They wouldn't allow him in - he's a Rasta - in those days. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
A guy saying that he wouldn't do something, | 0:36:35 | 0:36:37 | |
wouldn't play Bob Marley's records, | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
he was putting his life on the line, | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
because there were guys with Bob that he had no control of | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
that just idolised him. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:47 | |
They treated him like a god. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:50 | |
So, therefore, anybody doing anything that Bob didn't want, | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
he wouldn't have to say, "Go beat this guy," or go do this. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
He didn't have to get tough. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
The guys with him were tough. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
I'll give you an example. The disc jockey on the air. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:02 | |
For a guy to come in and take him up and punch him and say, | 0:37:02 | 0:37:06 | |
"Now, the next time, you play this record." | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
So, the next time that the guy is on the radio station, | 0:37:08 | 0:37:10 | |
the next thing he's going do is just play Bob Marley all day long. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
And that's what they did. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:14 | |
And, or a guy getting put in the trunk of a car and driven around | 0:37:14 | 0:37:18 | |
on those dirt roads, you know, with a mouthpiece over his mouth. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:23 | |
I think that sort of made things a little bit easier for Bob. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:27 | |
But, I'm saying, did Bob have anything to do with it? | 0:37:27 | 0:37:29 | |
I think Bob would never have anything to do with a thing like that. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
He's I and I superstar, | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
Mr Music, | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
Bob Marley. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
WHISTLES | 0:37:55 | 0:37:56 | |
# I went downtown | 0:37:57 | 0:37:59 | |
# Said went downtown | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
# I saw Miss Brown | 0:38:01 | 0:38:03 | |
# Said I saw Miss Brown | 0:38:03 | 0:38:04 | |
# She had brown sugar | 0:38:04 | 0:38:05 | |
# Had brown sugar | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
# All over her booga-wooga | 0:38:07 | 0:38:08 | |
# All over her booga-wooga | 0:38:08 | 0:38:10 | |
# I think I might join the fun | 0:38:10 | 0:38:12 | |
# I think I might join the fun | 0:38:12 | 0:38:13 | |
# But I had to hit and run | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
# But I had to hit and run | 0:38:15 | 0:38:16 | |
# See, I just can't settle down | 0:38:16 | 0:38:18 | |
# Just can't settle down | 0:38:18 | 0:38:19 | |
# In a kinky part of town | 0:38:19 | 0:38:21 | |
# Ride on | 0:38:21 | 0:38:23 | |
# Don't you know I've got to ride on | 0:38:23 | 0:38:27 | |
# Ride on | 0:38:27 | 0:38:29 | |
# Kinky reggae | 0:38:29 | 0:38:30 | |
# Ride on | 0:38:30 | 0:38:32 | |
# Oh, kinky reggae. # | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
-BUNNY WAILER: -Kinky reggae is a kind of song that | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
is based on the environment. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:40 | |
We see, we were used to being in Jamaica most of our time, | 0:38:40 | 0:38:44 | |
so we made music based on the environment. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
Then, when the started to venture out into the other territories, | 0:38:47 | 0:38:52 | |
you know, it seemed very kinky. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
You know, freaky. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:57 | |
# Ride on | 0:38:58 | 0:39:00 | |
# Don't you know I've got to ride on | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
# Oh, yeah | 0:39:02 | 0:39:04 | |
# Ride on | 0:39:04 | 0:39:05 | |
# I just can't settle down | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
# Ride on, eh... # | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
Er, we added to the backing vocals. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:11 | |
Fairly freeform harmonies, but it's unique to reggae music. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:22 | |
So, they're not frightened of good, close harmonies, | 0:39:22 | 0:39:26 | |
putting plenty of vocals on. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:28 | |
Erm, and also harmonies with soul in them, | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
not just sort of formularised, nice, parallel pieces. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
Again, it adds to the feel. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:38 | |
It's all stacking up to put that feel together. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
We put electric piano on this one. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
It's another example of when you play the things by themselves, | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
they're fairly meaningless. Then, when you put it in, | 0:39:55 | 0:39:58 | |
what seems like a very twee and ordinary electric piano sound | 0:39:58 | 0:40:02 | |
suddenly makes complete sense, cos it fits into that texture. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:07 | |
And we put another guitar on - | 0:40:07 | 0:40:09 | |
that was the original guitar... | 0:40:09 | 0:40:11 | |
..and the beat on the other side, | 0:40:14 | 0:40:15 | |
and then you put the electric piano that... | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
That's the complete rhythm. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
# Kinky reggae now | 0:40:21 | 0:40:23 | |
# Oh-oh, ooh | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
# Ride on, come on, yeah | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
# Riding on | 0:40:29 | 0:40:30 | |
# Riding on | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
# Ride on, kinky reggae | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
# Come on, ride on... # | 0:40:34 | 0:40:36 | |
It's something that we were set out to do. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
Trenchtown is a place that, | 0:40:39 | 0:40:42 | |
whatever you do there as far as talent is concerned, | 0:40:42 | 0:40:47 | |
you had to do it to the peak of your performance. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
So, it was a serious responsibility... | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
..for the Wailers to the people of these lesser privilege community. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:02 | |
And if it's tough, | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
if cold ground was my bed last night, | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
then that's what I'm going to sing. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:08 | |
# Never known what happiness is | 0:41:10 | 0:41:14 | |
# Never known what sweet caress is | 0:41:17 | 0:41:21 | |
# I'll be always laughing | 0:41:25 | 0:41:29 | |
# Like a clown | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
# But I know that | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
# I got to pick myself | 0:41:37 | 0:41:41 | |
# From off the ground, ooh | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
# Ooh, yeah, now | 0:41:44 | 0:41:46 | |
# In this here concrete jungle, jungle, jungle | 0:41:46 | 0:41:54 | |
# What do you got for me? | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
# Ooh-ee, ooh-ee | 0:41:58 | 0:41:59 | |
# In this here concrete jungle, jungle, jungle. # | 0:41:59 | 0:42:03 | |
You had to be tough. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:05 | |
Anywhere you got soft, | 0:42:05 | 0:42:07 | |
then you are thrown overboard. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:09 | |
Yeah, because you're not capable any more. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
But, the Wailers stayed focused on being tough. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
So, when the weather changes, you know, | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
all we do is apply some more toughness. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:24 | |
Serious thing. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:29 | |
There was a time when, you know, | 0:42:29 | 0:42:32 | |
the brothers seemed to have gotten soft. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
That's why they might not be here today, physically. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:39 | |
A little softness came in. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
But then again, | 0:42:43 | 0:42:45 | |
that sometimes will happen, you know. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
Samson was a tough one, | 0:42:48 | 0:42:50 | |
but he had a soft spot. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:52 | |
Bunny Wailer, | 0:43:02 | 0:43:04 | |
no smiling, no laughing. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:07 | |
Peter Tosh, always smiling and laughing, | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
but look serious still. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:12 | |
So, it would be like a serious smile. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:14 | |
And Bob, Bob never used to like smile much either, | 0:43:14 | 0:43:18 | |
you know, at the time. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:20 | |
The three of them was, to me, like three pussycats. | 0:43:20 | 0:43:23 | |
# No chains around my feet but I'm not free | 0:43:30 | 0:43:35 | |
# I know I'm bounded in captivity... # | 0:43:40 | 0:43:45 | |
The bassline in this is fantastic. | 0:43:50 | 0:43:52 | |
The bassline is really what just pulls you into the track, to me. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:57 | |
Just play the bass and drum for a bit. | 0:43:57 | 0:43:59 | |
Concrete Jungle, along with Stir It Up, were the two that | 0:44:10 | 0:44:13 | |
we probably did the most overdubbing on. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:16 | |
But, this one in particular, | 0:44:16 | 0:44:18 | |
once again, it illustrates the fact | 0:44:18 | 0:44:21 | |
that we have this luxury of spreading out into | 0:44:21 | 0:44:24 | |
more than just the eight tracks. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:25 | |
I think we pretty well filled up all tracks on this one. | 0:44:25 | 0:44:29 | |
But, it's particularly distinctive because of the because of | 0:44:31 | 0:44:34 | |
Wayne Perkins playing right on the front, | 0:44:34 | 0:44:37 | |
the rock guitar that brings it in. | 0:44:37 | 0:44:39 | |
This was the sound started the album. | 0:44:39 | 0:44:41 | |
It introduced Bob Marley and The Wailers to the world. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
It could've been a rock song about to start. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:46 | |
And I had this pedal on at the end of the solo, as I recall, | 0:44:58 | 0:45:02 | |
which was a sustain pedal, | 0:45:02 | 0:45:05 | |
from Manny's, that I bought in New York. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:08 | |
And, you hit this thing and it just, like, held the note for ever. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:13 | |
It would hold a note for three minutes. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:15 | |
And it held that one note and it would start to feedback | 0:45:15 | 0:45:18 | |
in an octave higher and then two octaves higher than that. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:21 | |
And when that happened, | 0:45:22 | 0:45:25 | |
they tossed... Blackwell or somebody hit that - or Tony - | 0:45:25 | 0:45:28 | |
hit the echo on that thing and it just rang across the whole room. | 0:45:28 | 0:45:33 | |
It just sent everybody... | 0:45:33 | 0:45:35 | |
It gave me goose bumps. | 0:45:35 | 0:45:36 | |
It was one of those magic moments. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:45 | |
And then Marley come running out there trying to cram this | 0:45:45 | 0:45:48 | |
spliff this long down my throat. | 0:45:48 | 0:45:49 | |
Jumping up and down, patting me on the back, going, | 0:45:49 | 0:45:52 | |
"You know, that's it, man!" | 0:45:52 | 0:45:53 | |
And I had no idea what he was saying. | 0:45:53 | 0:45:55 | |
And, instantly, it's recognisable. | 0:46:00 | 0:46:02 | |
It has more of an appeal. | 0:46:02 | 0:46:06 | |
Again, the radio-friendly thing. | 0:46:06 | 0:46:08 | |
It's more acceptable to people that were listening to pop music, | 0:46:08 | 0:46:13 | |
rock music... | 0:46:13 | 0:46:14 | |
It put this music in a mainstream frame. | 0:46:15 | 0:46:18 | |
It's the combination of... | 0:46:23 | 0:46:24 | |
It's the combination of all the elements, | 0:46:24 | 0:46:26 | |
all of the factors that have been put together. | 0:46:26 | 0:46:29 | |
The different people's musical styles. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:32 | |
The first record came out under the name The Wailers, | 0:46:38 | 0:46:40 | |
not Bob Marley and The Wailers. | 0:46:40 | 0:46:43 | |
So, I really wanted to present them as a black group, | 0:46:43 | 0:46:47 | |
and so I wanted to get more of a group sound and more of | 0:46:47 | 0:46:50 | |
a kind of rock sound to it. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:52 | |
I wanted to present them like a rock group, in a sense. | 0:46:52 | 0:46:55 | |
I always felt that this was a gold album, | 0:46:59 | 0:47:01 | |
but after the first year, we'd only sold 14,000. | 0:47:01 | 0:47:05 | |
Eventually, you, know, it sold well over one million, | 0:47:05 | 0:47:09 | |
but it took a long time. | 0:47:09 | 0:47:10 | |
The album's cover says, very directly, | 0:47:13 | 0:47:16 | |
"Hey, rock fans, come and buy me." | 0:47:16 | 0:47:18 | |
It sort of flattered everybody, really. It flattered the audience. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:21 | |
It sort of made it feel like a collector's item, made it feel like | 0:47:21 | 0:47:24 | |
a special event, and that's clearly what Chris Blackwell was | 0:47:24 | 0:47:28 | |
after with Catch A Fire. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:30 | |
He wanted to make it feel like an event - | 0:47:30 | 0:47:32 | |
and an event in rock terms. | 0:47:32 | 0:47:35 | |
Something bigger than reggae. | 0:47:35 | 0:47:36 | |
And here was a music emerging out of one phase into another. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:42 | |
It showed musicians in other fields of music that here was | 0:47:45 | 0:47:50 | |
a new vocabulary that they could draw from, | 0:47:50 | 0:47:52 | |
new kinds of musical grammar that they could use. | 0:47:52 | 0:47:55 | |
I think Catch A Fire had an enormously profound influence | 0:47:59 | 0:48:03 | |
by introducing that new flavour to | 0:48:03 | 0:48:06 | |
Anglo-American popular music. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:08 | |
# No chains around my feet | 0:48:08 | 0:48:11 | |
# But I'm not free | 0:48:11 | 0:48:14 | |
# I know I am bound here in captivity | 0:48:18 | 0:48:22 | |
# Oh, now | 0:48:24 | 0:48:26 | |
# Never known | 0:48:27 | 0:48:29 | |
# Never known what happiness is | 0:48:29 | 0:48:32 | |
# Never known | 0:48:32 | 0:48:33 | |
# Never known in what sweet caress is | 0:48:33 | 0:48:37 | |
# I'll be always laughing | 0:48:38 | 0:48:42 | |
# Like a clown | 0:48:42 | 0:48:45 | |
# Oh, someone help me, cos I | 0:48:45 | 0:48:49 | |
# I've got to pick myself from off the ground | 0:48:49 | 0:48:55 | |
# In this here concrete jungle | 0:48:55 | 0:48:59 | |
# I said, what do you got for me now? | 0:48:59 | 0:49:03 | |
# Yeah, concrete jungle... # | 0:49:06 | 0:49:08 | |
The relationship was and still is | 0:49:13 | 0:49:16 | |
and will always be the same | 0:49:16 | 0:49:19 | |
as it concerns the three Wailers. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:21 | |
And, apart from being brothers musically, | 0:49:22 | 0:49:29 | |
we automatically were engrafted into each other, | 0:49:29 | 0:49:35 | |
because of the constant being together, making the songs, | 0:49:35 | 0:49:43 | |
rehearsing the songs, recording the songs, | 0:49:43 | 0:49:47 | |
onstage, offstage. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:49 | |
You know, in the country... | 0:49:49 | 0:49:51 | |
Anywhere that you would, you know, see one Wailer, | 0:49:51 | 0:49:55 | |
then the other two would be somewhere around, you know. | 0:49:55 | 0:49:59 | |
# Can't tell the woman from the man | 0:49:59 | 0:50:03 | |
# No, I say you can't, cos they dressed in the same pollution | 0:50:03 | 0:50:09 | |
# Dressed in the same pollution | 0:50:09 | 0:50:11 | |
# And then their mind is confused with confusion | 0:50:11 | 0:50:15 | |
# To their problem, seems there's never, never no solution | 0:50:16 | 0:50:22 | |
# They become the midnight ravers | 0:50:22 | 0:50:28 | |
# And someone said please don't let me... | 0:50:28 | 0:50:32 | |
# Please don't you let me down... # | 0:50:32 | 0:50:34 | |
Then The Wailers, | 0:50:34 | 0:50:35 | |
even before we got to the point of making ourselves into a group, | 0:50:35 | 0:50:40 | |
were already a family, because my father had child with Bob's mother. | 0:50:40 | 0:50:46 | |
Which is Pearl. | 0:50:46 | 0:50:48 | |
So, between myself and Bob, we had already shared the same sister. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:53 | |
Before The Wailers were formed, | 0:50:53 | 0:50:56 | |
and afterwards then Peter had child | 0:50:56 | 0:51:01 | |
with my first sister, you know, | 0:51:01 | 0:51:05 | |
so it's a Livingston-Marley-McIntosh situation. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:11 | |
# Catch a fire | 0:51:11 | 0:51:14 | |
# You're gonna get burned, oh | 0:51:14 | 0:51:18 | |
# Every time I hear cracks and the whips, my blood runs cold | 0:51:55 | 0:52:00 | |
# I remember on the slave ship how they brutalise our very souls | 0:52:00 | 0:52:06 | |
# Today they say that we are free | 0:52:06 | 0:52:10 | |
# Only to be chained in poverty | 0:52:10 | 0:52:13 | |
# Good God, I think it's illiteracy | 0:52:13 | 0:52:16 | |
# It's only machine that make money | 0:52:16 | 0:52:18 | |
# Slave driver, the table is turned | 0:52:18 | 0:52:22 | |
# Catch a fire | 0:52:24 | 0:52:26 | |
# You're gonna get burned | 0:52:26 | 0:52:28 | |
# Slave driver, the table is... | 0:52:29 | 0:52:34 | |
# Catch a fire, come on | 0:52:34 | 0:52:36 | |
# Catch a fire | 0:52:36 | 0:52:39 | |
# You're gonnna get burned, ba-ba, bay-eh, bay-eh... # | 0:52:39 | 0:52:44 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:53:06 | 0:53:08 | |
But the original Wailers broke up | 0:53:08 | 0:53:10 | |
soon after making the next album, called Burnin'. | 0:53:10 | 0:53:13 | |
So we gon' get up, stand up for our right, because tonight is the night. | 0:53:14 | 0:53:17 | |
Hi, how you doing? | 0:53:17 | 0:53:20 | |
Yes. | 0:53:20 | 0:53:21 | |
One of the tracks from Burnin' - Get Up, Stand Up - | 0:53:22 | 0:53:25 | |
later became a Bob Marley classic, | 0:53:25 | 0:53:27 | |
often performed till his death in 1981. | 0:53:27 | 0:53:29 | |
# Get up, stand up, oh-ooh | 0:54:28 | 0:54:32 | |
# Stand up for your right | 0:54:32 | 0:54:34 | |
# Get up, stand up | 0:54:34 | 0:54:36 | |
# Don't give up the fight | 0:54:37 | 0:54:39 | |
# Come on! | 0:54:39 | 0:54:41 | |
# Get up, stand up | 0:54:41 | 0:54:43 | |
# Stand up for your right | 0:54:43 | 0:54:45 | |
# Get up, stand up | 0:54:46 | 0:54:49 | |
# Don't give up the fight | 0:54:49 | 0:54:51 | |
# I said, preacher man, don't tell me | 0:54:51 | 0:54:55 | |
# Heaven is on the Earth, yeah | 0:54:55 | 0:54:58 | |
# You know, I don't know what life is really worth | 0:54:58 | 0:55:03 | |
# It's not all that glitters is gold | 0:55:03 | 0:55:06 | |
# Half the story has never been told | 0:55:06 | 0:55:09 | |
# Now you see the light, stand up for your right | 0:55:09 | 0:55:14 | |
# Hey! Get up, stand up | 0:55:14 | 0:55:16 | |
# Stand up for your right | 0:55:18 | 0:55:20 | |
# Get up, stand up | 0:55:20 | 0:55:24 | |
# Don't give up the fight | 0:55:24 | 0:55:27 | |
# Get up, stand up | 0:55:27 | 0:55:29 | |
# Stand up for your right | 0:55:29 | 0:55:31 | |
# Get up, stand up | 0:55:33 | 0:55:35 | |
# And don't give up the fight | 0:55:35 | 0:55:37 | |
# Yeah | 0:56:00 | 0:56:01 | |
# Get up, stand up | 0:56:01 | 0:56:03 | |
# Stand up for your right | 0:56:03 | 0:56:06 | |
# Get up, stand up | 0:56:06 | 0:56:09 | |
# Stand up for your right | 0:56:09 | 0:56:11 | |
# Get up, stand up | 0:56:12 | 0:56:15 | |
# Stand up for your right | 0:56:15 | 0:56:17 | |
# Get up, stand up | 0:56:19 | 0:56:21 | |
# Stand up for your right | 0:56:21 | 0:56:23 | |
# I said, preacher man, don't tell me heaven is on the Earth | 0:56:23 | 0:56:29 | |
# I know you don't know what life is really worth | 0:56:31 | 0:56:34 | |
# It's not that all that glitters is gold | 0:56:34 | 0:56:38 | |
# Half the story has never been told | 0:56:38 | 0:56:41 | |
# Now you see the light, stand up for your right | 0:56:41 | 0:56:45 | |
# Get up, stand up | 0:56:46 | 0:56:50 | |
# Stand up for your right | 0:56:50 | 0:56:51 | |
# Get up, stand up | 0:56:53 | 0:56:55 | |
# And don't give up the fight | 0:56:55 | 0:56:58 | |
# Get up, stand up | 0:56:58 | 0:57:01 | |
# Stand up for your right | 0:57:01 | 0:57:03 | |
# Get up, stand up | 0:57:04 | 0:57:07 | |
# And don't give up the fight | 0:57:07 | 0:57:09 | |
# You see, most people think great God will come from the sky | 0:57:09 | 0:57:16 | |
# Take away everything and make everybody feel high | 0:57:16 | 0:57:21 | |
# But if you know what life is worth | 0:57:21 | 0:57:24 | |
# You would look for yours on Earth | 0:57:24 | 0:57:27 | |
# Now you see the light, stand up for your right | 0:57:27 | 0:57:31 | |
# Get up, stand up | 0:57:33 | 0:57:35 | |
# Stand up for your right | 0:57:35 | 0:57:37 | |
# Get up, stand up | 0:57:38 | 0:57:40 | |
# And don't give up the fight | 0:57:40 | 0:57:43 | |
# Get up, stand up | 0:57:44 | 0:57:46 | |
# Life is your right | 0:57:46 | 0:57:47 | |
# Stand up for your right | 0:57:47 | 0:57:48 | |
# Can't give up the fight | 0:57:48 | 0:57:50 | |
# Get up, stand up | 0:57:50 | 0:57:51 | |
# In the morning | 0:57:51 | 0:57:52 | |
# Don't give up the fight | 0:57:52 | 0:57:54 | |
# No, no, no | 0:57:54 | 0:57:55 | |
# We're sick and tired of your bullshit game | 0:57:55 | 0:57:58 | |
# Die and go to heaven in a-Jesus' name | 0:57:58 | 0:58:01 | |
# We know what we understand | 0:58:01 | 0:58:04 | |
# Almighty God is a living man | 0:58:04 | 0:58:07 | |
# Fool some people sometimes | 0:58:07 | 0:58:09 | |
# But you can't fool all of the people all of the time | 0:58:09 | 0:58:12 | |
# Now you see the light, you better stand up for your right | 0:58:12 | 0:58:18 | |
# Get up, stand up | 0:58:18 | 0:58:21 | |
# Stand up for your right | 0:58:21 | 0:58:23 | |
# Get up, stand up | 0:58:23 | 0:58:26 | |
# And don't give up the fight | 0:58:26 | 0:58:29 | |
# Get up, stand up | 0:58:29 | 0:58:31 | |
# In the morning | 0:58:31 | 0:58:32 | |
# Stand up for your right | 0:58:32 | 0:58:34 | |
# In the night | 0:58:34 | 0:58:36 | |
# Ohh, don't give up the fight. # | 0:58:36 | 0:58:39 | |
Irie. | 0:58:43 | 0:58:44 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:58:44 | 0:58:46 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, a big round of applause | 0:58:48 | 0:58:50 | |
for Bob Marley and The Wailers. | 0:58:50 | 0:58:51 | |
Come on, put your hands together, make the boys feel good. | 0:58:51 | 0:58:54 | |
-CHEERING -Thank you, fellas! | 0:58:54 | 0:58:55 | |
That was beautiful. | 0:58:55 | 0:58:56 |