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If you want to see a legend in action, | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
there's no better place to start | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
than here. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:10 | |
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MUSIC PLAYS: Wild Thing by Jimi Hendrix | 0:00:21 | 0:00:26 | |
Jimi Hendrix was a star in Britain, | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
but in the US he still needed to make a mark. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
# Wild thing... # | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
It's no good being the greatest guitarist in the world | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
if nobody knows your name, | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
what you look like or what you do. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:43 | |
And that's where PR comes in. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
# You move me, look out... # | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
So when Jimi set fire to his guitar, it looked like a spontaneous | 0:00:53 | 0:00:57 | |
act by a great performer. | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
But it wasn't. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
This was a PR stunt, | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
pure and simple, | 0:01:05 | 0:01:06 | |
and it broke Jimi in America. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
I'm Alan Edwards, and I'm a PR, | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
and I can tell you this was one of the great PR stunts of all time. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:18 | |
MUSIC: Kashmir by Led Zeppelin | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
PR is the unseen hand behind the most successful musical | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
acts in the world. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
You see, you can have a hit record without PR, | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
but you can't sustain a career without it. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
And if it does its job well, | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
it's invisible. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
PR stands for... | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
Er... | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
PR is very important, you know... | 0:01:48 | 0:01:49 | |
Otherwise you're the best kept secret, aren't you, you know? | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
I suppose it's getting what you've got to other people to know that | 0:01:52 | 0:01:57 | |
they didn't know that what you've | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
got is what they really needed all along. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
All publicity is good publicity, even when it's bad. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
And yet to some, PR remains | 0:02:06 | 0:02:07 | |
a dark force that controls and manipulates. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:11 | |
Hard to believe, I know. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
PR is twisting minds, you know, | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
making something seem very obvious | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
and, you know, irresistible. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
PR is essentially telling lies for a living. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
But the things that last | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
are worth having lies told about in the first place. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
The dictionary definition of PR is to promote a favourable public | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
image of somebody and that's what I do | 0:02:37 | 0:02:39 | |
and that's what any decent PR does. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
Lying doesn't come into it. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
So in this film, I'm going to lift the lid on the world of PR. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
I'm going to show you the inner machinations, how it really works. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
I'm going to also show you the extraordinary effect and impact | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
that it's had on the music business | 0:02:54 | 0:02:55 | |
and, of course, the world at large. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
'Being a PR today is a bit like being a conductor. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:17 | |
'You've still got the old media of TV, radio and newspapers. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
'And all this remains crucial to any artist today.' | 0:03:20 | 0:03:24 | |
Great, and I think the Guardian want to review the gig next week, | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
so it's all really shaping up... | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
'But we now also have new technology - | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
'Tumblr, Twitter, Instagram, | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
'Snapchat, Facebook, etc, | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
'so you can connect with an audience of millions instantaneously.' | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
Taylor Swift and her team, who we are going to look at later, | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
are modern masters of PR, | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
using a well-coordinated combination of old and new media. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
But at the end of the day, | 0:03:54 | 0:03:55 | |
even their PR relies on the narrative | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
and, importantly, the talent. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
MUSIC: Blank Space by Taylor Swift | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
# No money, suit and tie | 0:04:03 | 0:04:04 | |
# I can read you like a magazine...# | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
It doesn't matter if it's old media or new media or this media or | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
that media, you've got to get that story right. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
It's about telling the story and placing it. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
Well, this girl is great. You know, | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
she's got long blonde hair and gorgeous eyes... | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
And today is no different to the '60s, | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
when Britain's PR story begins. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
Now look up. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
Then position down like that. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
For an up and coming artist, the PR's job is | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
to get the artist out there | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
and talked about. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
Hey, listen, also can you suggest her | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
to your Radio Luxembourg DJs and things? | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
On the nationals, if I was you, I'd play up the sex angle a bit | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
and get her doing some of these fashion pages. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
In these early days, PR was all about making your artist | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
attractive and marketable. | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
Look at The Beatles - | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
nice, clean-cut boys, smart enough to meet the Prime Minister. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
But the flip side to the safe image was to be raw, | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
edgy and a bit dangerous. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
And if you're going to be dangerous, | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
you might as well do it on a brand new BBC series. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
This week on Scene, we intend to look closely at a group through | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
the eyes of its leader, | 0:05:30 | 0:05:32 | |
so who better to start with, then, than Pete Townshend of The Who? | 0:05:32 | 0:05:36 | |
My personal motivation on stage is quite simple. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
It consists of a hate of every kind of pop music | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
and a hate of everything our group has done, really. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
The fact is that our group hasn't got any quality. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
It's just musical sensationalism. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
You have to resign yourself to the fact that a large | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
part of the audience is sort of thick, you know, | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
and don't appreciate quality. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
I didn't care about the fans, | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
I cared about the...the PR. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
I just wanted to be on the TV, you know? | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
And also that was probably quite calculated. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
Most artists were coached by their managers or their PR people | 0:06:16 | 0:06:20 | |
what to say, how to behave, what to wear. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:22 | |
What was happening to me is I had one of our managers, | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
Chris Stamp, wheeling me in, kind of going, | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
"Create trouble, Pete." | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
What about musical quality, though? You said that you don't | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
think your group have got any. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
Well, why don't you try to give it some? | 0:06:37 | 0:06:38 | |
Because we don't particularly want to give it quality. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
We've tried and it's failed so miserably, you know, really. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
No, really, this is the truth, you know. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
Pete delighted in being controversial cos he understood | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
the value of controversy, | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
and he took that on as being his job. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
I've heard a lot about you and the rest of the group taking drugs, | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
Pete. Does this mean you're usually | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
blocked up when you're actually on stage? | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
No, but it means we're blocked up all the time, you know. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:07:06 | 0:07:07 | |
He was telling the truth. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
But Pete saying that would have been | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
horror to parents sitting at home watching the show, | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
if they were. But any youngsters watching it would | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
have gone, "Wow, yeah, this is our band," cos they were all | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
probably getting blocked-up every Friday night themselves. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
MUSIC: My Generation by The Who | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
# People try to put us down Just because we get around... # | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
Pete certainly ruffled a few feathers and many were | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
shocked about him openly discussing drugs | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
and the band's musical ability. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
# Talkin' bout my generation | 0:07:36 | 0:07:37 | |
# I hope I die before I get old... # | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
But in PR terms, it did something much more important. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
It sold The Who to its target audience. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
He's a narrator, he's a politician, a subversive, he's everything. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:55 | |
So, instead of looking at him as being | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
a PR man's disaster, | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
he's a PR man's present. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
He's a gift, cos he's always going to create press. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
Controversy sells and the press loved it. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
PRs would use this tactic for years to come. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
After all, where would the Sex Pistols, | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
Madonna or Oasis be without | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
a reputation for stirring it up? | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
# Talkin' bout my generation | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
# It's my generation... # | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
But even in these early days, when PR was still in its infancy, | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
there was a suspicion that it wasn't to be entirely trusted. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
In my early day, there was a hostility towards PR. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
You went to journalist college, and you were told, in no uncertain | 0:08:40 | 0:08:44 | |
terms, "PRs will try to exploit you. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
"Your job is to be a journalist, | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
"to be independent, to expose people, | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
"not to make friends with PRs." | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
# We're not gonna take it... # | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
However, although national newspapers | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
played a role in getting artists known, | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
at that time it was the music press you really had to crack. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
# We're not gonna take it... # | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
The NME, Melody Maker and others held a lot of clout. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:11 | |
And one journalist-turned-PR knew more than most how the game worked. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:16 | |
His name was Keith Altham. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
A lot of artists would ring me up | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
and say, "We hear you're doing PR. Would you do our PR?" | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
And I'd say, "No, no. Dreadful people, PRs. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
"I don't want to do PR. I'm just helping out a friend, you know?" | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
And then I began adding up the money I was turning down, | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
realised it was a bit of a mistake to keep turning it down. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
So who was the PR we met at the beginning | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
who suggested that Jimi Hendrix burn his guitar? | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
Oh, it was me. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
Erm, but that was the kind of thing you needed to do | 0:09:48 | 0:09:53 | |
to just get the wider attention, you know, | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
and make big bucks and be a huge star. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
Keith Altham was to become my boss, and he knew that | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
when it comes to PR, image is crucial. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
Image sold Jimi Hendrix and it would go on to sell a thousand | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
bands that would otherwise have gone unnoticed. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
MUSIC: Mama Weer All Crazee Now by Slade | 0:10:14 | 0:10:18 | |
One of Keith's early clients was Ambrose Slade. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
# I said my mama we're all crazy now... # | 0:10:21 | 0:10:27 | |
Now we all know them simply as Slade, | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
the genial glam rockers that helped brighten up the '70s. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
But they didn't start out that way. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
This is the rather less flamboyant band in 1969. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
Well, it was difficult in the late '60s. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
We were pretty much looking | 0:10:46 | 0:10:47 | |
like every other band that was around at the time. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
We started off with a sort of mod look, | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
but it wasn't getting us noticed at all. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
And Chas Chandler, our manager, said, | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
"We need to find a new image for you | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
"to set you aside from anybody else | 0:11:03 | 0:11:05 | |
"and we need a PR guy to handle all this." | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
And he knew this fella called Keith Altham. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
"Well," I said, "You need something | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
"that's in the papers, that's current, | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
"and the big news at the moment is skinheads." | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
I says, "Pity that you can't make them the first skinhead group." | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
Course that was like a light going off in Chas's head - DING! | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
The light shone. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:31 | |
He thought, "That's a brilliant idea." | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
The next day, Chas had sent us down to | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
the hairdressers, had all our hair cropped, | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
and so we went and got all the gear. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
When we got back to the office, I phoned up and says, | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
"You can't do it. They're not yobs, | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
"they're not oiks, they'll get found out, | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
"and they'll hate me for it." | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
And Chas said, "Too late. They're already at the hairdressers | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
"now, they've already had their hairs cut." | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
Even though the band's music wasn't that aggressive - | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
I mean, I don't know personally of too many skinhead violinists - | 0:12:00 | 0:12:04 | |
associating the band with skinheads | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
was a risky PR move that almost backfired. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
# Remember me after my love... # | 0:12:09 | 0:12:14 | |
A lot of people looked at us and thought we were heavy duty. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:19 | |
Promoters were scared of booking us, | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
radio shows were frightened of playing our records and it was | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
purely a lot of it down to the image. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
But it was a PR exercise that really worked, | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
because overnight there was no other | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
band at that time with a skinhead look. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
# Brother John and Sister Susie say that I've been bad... # | 0:12:38 | 0:12:43 | |
It got them attention and it got them in the papers. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
Nobody cared about them before. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
And Noddy always says that it was | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
the beginning of Slade before they had a hit. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
# Don't think I'll stick around here I ain't a-lookin' for a fight... # | 0:12:53 | 0:12:57 | |
Creating an image is one of the tools of the PR's trade. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
But if you want to make a big splash, then you need a PR stunt. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
Now, this might be a giant statue of Michael Jackson | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
floating down the Thames | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
or the KLF burning a million quid in a field, | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
or it could be an over-the-top, James Bond-style press event. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:22 | |
MUSIC: The Wizard by Uriah Heep | 0:13:22 | 0:13:30 | |
Heavy rockers Uriah Heep were a nice bunch of lads, | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
but despite selling albums by the truckload, | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
and being worshiped by their fans, the press hated them. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:41 | |
-The most famous one is Melissa Mills. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
She reviewed our first album in Rolling Stone and she said, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:48 | |
maybe not verbatim, she said, "If this band ever makes it, | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
"I'll commit suicide." | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
# Well, we know the joy of life... # | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
Bit harsh, Melissa! | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
But that is exactly the sort of thing you are up against | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
when you have to promote an artist without the critics' support. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
And in 1976, Uriah Heep had a new album to sell. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:12 | |
The album was called High And Mighty, | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
and the picture shows a gun flying up through the sky. Anyway, | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
we sat down one day, my boss Keith Altham at the time, | 0:14:18 | 0:14:22 | |
and we decided High And Mighty - duh - | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
we should do it on a mountain! | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
And one of us had seen a rerun of a Bond film, which had a scene in a | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
wonderful revolving restaurant on top of a mountain in the Swiss Alps. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:38 | |
So that's when the lunacy started. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
And they came up with this magnificent | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
idea of spending our money flying a bunch of people to Switzerland. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
Well, as usual, we didn't think it was our money, | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
but it ended up to be our money. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
Nobody bothered to tell us it was our money. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
We took a party out to the mountain with Alan Freeman, the DJ, | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
the national newspaper journalist, | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
and it was unbelievable! | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
We got on a plane to fly to Switzerland... | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
A chartered plane. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
And every press person was given a headset with the album on. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:16 | |
All good so far, and a free bar! | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
Not so good in the end. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:21 | |
And they drank their way to Switzerland, | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
listening to the album, you know. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:25 | |
How many of the journalists bothered | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
to switch on their in-flight systems, who can tell. There'd been | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
many cans of lager consumed at Gatwick airport and on the plane. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
We got to the airport in Switzerland and the drummer, Lee Kerslake, | 0:15:37 | 0:15:42 | |
was a little tired and emotional when we arrived, | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
because he sighted this guy dressed an eight-foot bear, | 0:15:45 | 0:15:49 | |
because that was the national emblem of Switzerland. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
They'd come to make us welcome. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
Being Lee, he starts to wrestle with it. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
But it's a man inside a costume! | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
So god knows what this man thought! | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
And they're rolling around on the floor in the airport, | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
and the chap dressed as a bear doesn't think it's very funny. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
So the guy there was amazing, amazing, | 0:16:16 | 0:16:18 | |
-very funny! -That's what makes me | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
think we landed in Austria and drove to Switzerland. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
Oh, we could have done, mate! | 0:16:23 | 0:16:24 | |
We went on from there to the longest cable car | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
ride in the world up to the mountains, like James Bond. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
The lift attendant, he says, "I would like to warn you that one | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
"drink down here is like five up there!" | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
And of course, they've had about ten each. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
We got to this revolving restaurant at the top of this mountain, | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
and so we all sat around for this sumptuous banquet, and it was | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
three, four, five courses, it went on for hours and hours and hours, | 0:16:53 | 0:16:58 | |
the food, the drinks, and some journalists just couldn't hack it. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
Somebody was saying, "Anybody seen Alan Freeman?" | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
"No... Is he still in the restaurant?" | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
We were outside doing photographs. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
Oh, yeah, there he goes! | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
He'd fallen asleep in his soup! | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
He was going round the revolving restaurant like a ride! | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
Anyway, the penultimate moment was going to be the photo call. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
And we'd choreographed it so we'd have Ken Hensley, Mick Box, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:30 | |
the band, with the Swiss Alps behind them. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
I mean, what could put over | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
the image of an album called High and Mighty better? | 0:17:35 | 0:17:39 | |
What we hadn't taken to account is that relations | 0:17:39 | 0:17:41 | |
between some of the members of the group were not perfect. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:45 | |
And just as the photographers lined up, | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
a scuffle broke out between the group. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
Within minutes, it seemed like a | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
full armed fist fight, people flying here, there and the other! | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
So the photographers were complaining to me | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
and they were saying, | 0:17:59 | 0:18:00 | |
"Oh, this is no good, mate! I wanted..." | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
You know, "They're not standing together! | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
"Why are they punching each other? | 0:18:04 | 0:18:05 | |
"That's not what we signed up for at all!" | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
You could sum it up by calling it an adventure that descended very | 0:18:07 | 0:18:12 | |
rapidly into farce. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:13 | |
Oh, god. Those were the days. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
No, they weren't. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:20 | |
Public relations? | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
To me, it means, erm... | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
If it's done right it's fantastic. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:30 | |
If it's done wrong it's High and Mighty. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
In the case of High and Mighty it means pure rubbish! | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
So there was nothing to do but get everyone back to London. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
And, of course, I had to drown everyone's sorrows and take their | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
mind off the incident, | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
but amazingly the album got loads of good reviews. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
By the mid-'70s, even bad publicity was proven to be | 0:18:54 | 0:18:58 | |
good PR and in 1976, the same year as High And Mighty came out, | 0:18:58 | 0:19:04 | |
an exciting new musical movement emerged that was tailor-made | 0:19:04 | 0:19:08 | |
to turn bad publicity into great stories. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
MUSIC: Anarchy In The UK by The Sex Pistols | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
# I am an antichrist | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
# And I am an anarchist... # | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
Are you against the Stones and The Who, sounds like that? | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
Yes, of course, because they're established. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
They just do not mean anything to anyone. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
But what the punk years did give would-be PRs was the chance to | 0:19:34 | 0:19:39 | |
learn on the job and often the hard way. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
There was always somebody getting arrested, | 0:19:50 | 0:19:52 | |
the police were cancelling a gig, there was a fight going on. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
There was a crisis every day. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:57 | |
How these scenarios were handled became | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
a blueprint for the future of the PR industry. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
One of my clients at this time was a band called The Stranglers. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
MUSIC: Hanging Around by The Stranglers | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
# Big girl in the red dress | 0:20:19 | 0:20:20 | |
# She's just trying to impress us | 0:20:20 | 0:20:22 | |
# And she's got the barley fever | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
# But she doesn't make a sound | 0:20:24 | 0:20:25 | |
# She's just hanging around... # | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
My analysis of The Stranglers pretty quick | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
was that they had really, really good songs | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
and they were a real quality live act. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
So I sat down and devised this plan. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
# Christ he told his mother | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
# Christ he told her not to bother... # | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
I mean, as a PR, you don't invent a band. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
But you do help them capitalise on what's going on around. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
And the punk image was pushed hard. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
# Hanging around | 0:20:51 | 0:20:52 | |
# He's just hanging around... # | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
At the time, there was definitely an open door, | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
which Alan saw, and the door | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
said, "Come in here if you are punk." | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
And, er, he saw on the other side of this door great riches | 0:21:03 | 0:21:07 | |
and great fortune and recording contracts | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
and money to be made by managers, PR people, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
and hopefully musicians. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
# Didn't have the money round to buy a Morry Thou... # | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
So Alan steered us through that door | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
by manufacturing stories that | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
played up to an image of punk. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
# But the money's no good | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
# Just get a grip on yourself | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
# And you should know... # | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
Alan kind of encouraged us | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
to provoke people | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
just to be provocative. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:45 | |
Why don't you want to stay in our movie? | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
Eh? | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
We want only your statement. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
Why you don't want to stay in our movie? | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
Cos I'm no prostitute. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
I'm not adverse to a bit of confrontation, | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
but we did have a motto in the Stranglers at one point. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
Truth through provocation. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
And you hate Germans, you say? | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
The majority, yeah. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:09 | |
And then, you know, we started attracting a certain crowd | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
and bands were getting pretty tribal then | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
so our bunch of followers kind of wanted to | 0:22:21 | 0:22:27 | |
annoy other bands and their audiences | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
and so we got a reputation there as well. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
People would be sent to hospital, we'd have blood all over us | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
Alan would say, "Fucking great copy!" | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
And he'd make something out of it. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
Every time they did a gig, it was a self-perpetuating process | 0:22:46 | 0:22:51 | |
because the more they were associated with punk, | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
then the more you'd have some element | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
of yobby kids turning up and you'd | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
have a little scuffle in the audience. | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
I would then fan those flames. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
I would probably add a nought to whatever happened. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
So if an incident happened and two policemen turned up, | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
it would be three squad cars turned up with dogs, so... | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
And we would, we would supply him with little pieces | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
of stories which he would then, erm, magnify | 0:23:16 | 0:23:21 | |
and glorify and sell to the papers. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
And the papers would completely eat it up | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
and loved it, loved every second of it. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
I think he oiled what was already there. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
What The Stranglers were capable of doing | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
made Alan Edwards' job really easy. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
Alan didn't have to fabricate anything. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:55 | |
Yeah, this is fucking boring. You lot are a load of the most boring | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
people I've ever seen in my fucking life. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
Have you all got your Crackerjack pencils? | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
Well, stick 'em up your arses, then! | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
Good PR does not reveal its own hand. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:12 | |
Good PR is disguised as | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
though it were simply news or a feature. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
And in that very important respect it's | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
different from conventional advertising. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
PR comes in pretending to be the work of a journalist | 0:24:22 | 0:24:26 | |
and therefore the consumer isn't alerted | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
and is therefore more likely to be manipulated by it. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:32 | |
We hate playing to elitist audiences so fuck off! | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
MUSIC: Something Better Change by The Stranglers | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
# Something better change | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
# I said something better change... # | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
The music papers lapped up every punk story they could, | 0:24:44 | 0:24:49 | |
but with the help of PR, | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
punk also became regular fodder for the national press. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
# Something better change... # | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
And by the '80s, it wasn't just punk that had gone mainstream. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
Music entertainment was now part of all of our lives. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
For better or for worse, | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
this was the beginning of a revolution in the media, | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
with MTV as a noisy new arrival. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
You know, Madonna started her career | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
at the advent of video and Madonna's probably... | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
Her and Michael Jackson are probably | 0:25:21 | 0:25:23 | |
the most famous people that benefited from MTV. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
MUSIC: Thriller by Michael Jackson | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
# It's close to midnight | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
# Something evil's lurking in the dark... # | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
So from the PR point of view, this was a golden age. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:39 | |
MTV put the spotlight on pop music and the release of a new | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
video for an artist like Michael Jackson became an event in itself. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:47 | |
And of course, the print media and PR responded. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
Pop stars were great copy. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
My sense was that music was so important to people that they | 0:25:55 | 0:25:59 | |
would read it, even in a national newspaper. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:03 | |
You read about somebody famous, | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
instantly, even if it comes to polishing their shoes, only every | 0:26:06 | 0:26:11 | |
third day, and never on a Wednesday, | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
for some reason somebody will say, | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
"Do you know what? It's bloody interesting. This bloke | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
"doesn't polish his shoes on Wednesdays!" | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
# Cos this is thriller Thriller night... # | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
Kelvin MacKenzie, seeing the future, commissioned a new entertainment | 0:26:25 | 0:26:29 | |
page in The Sun. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
It was called Bizarre and it was edited by John Blake. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:35 | |
Bizarre was to radically change the PR landscape for both | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
the music industry and far beyond. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:46 | |
I think the game changed | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
because the music press just wrote to people who bought records. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
I was writing to people with a much bigger agenda | 0:26:50 | 0:26:55 | |
and people who didn't buy records were still | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
fascinated by the cultural importance of people like | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
Steve Strange and Duran Duran. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
MUSIC: Is There Something I Should Know? by Duran Duran | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
# Please, please tell me now... # | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
What this meant for music PRs was that we now had direct access | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
to a huge new audience. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
You know, I had to do this column six days a week | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
and I had to find 12, 13 stories a day as well as doing feature | 0:27:19 | 0:27:23 | |
interviews, as well as doing news stories. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
So it's a lot of filling up so you | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
came to rely on PR. And they would feed me | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
stories because they understood my problems and we worked together. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:36 | |
The PRs know that almost anything could go in, | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
and any kind of rubbish anybody wanted to say. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
# I know you're watching me every minute of the day, yeah... # | 0:27:42 | 0:27:47 | |
On reflection, it never occurred | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
to me at the time that this was | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
going to be a kind of torrent of PR. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:56 | |
And the success of the Bizarre | 0:27:56 | 0:27:58 | |
column encouraged others to follow suit, | 0:27:58 | 0:28:00 | |
most notably the Mirror's 3am Girls. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:04 | |
I think celebrity reporting has become particularly | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
manipulative not just in the music industry. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
The reporters don't know what's going on, | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
so they rely to an alarming | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
extent on stuff being fed to them, little titbits from the PR people. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:18 | |
And the other thing is that their need to get access to those | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
celebrities is so great that they accept all | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
sorts of restrictions on the way they do their writing. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:28 | |
What a PR did in the music business in the '80s | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
is as appropriate to every industry today. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
They learned a lot there. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
The PR ideas which were polished in the music business | 0:28:36 | 0:28:42 | |
and created great stars and great wealth. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
This is about wealth-creation. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:47 | |
Of course, PR is not always about boosting a star's profile | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
or their wealth. It's sometimes necessary to | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
protect their image - | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
crisis management, we call it. | 0:28:57 | 0:28:59 | |
And most stars need it at one time or another. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
MUSIC: Let's Stick Together by Roxy Music | 0:29:02 | 0:29:08 | |
-REPORTER: -The American model Jerry Hall | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
has appeared in court in Barbados | 0:29:11 | 0:29:12 | |
charged with trying to smuggle drugs. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
The glamorous Jerry Hall was the girlfriend of the equally | 0:29:16 | 0:29:20 | |
glamorous Mick Jagger from the Rolling Stones. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
You can't imagine a bigger story. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
What apparently happened was | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
that Jerry Hall went to the airport and says, | 0:29:28 | 0:29:30 | |
"Has a box arrived for me?" | 0:29:30 | 0:29:32 | |
So there was a big old cardboard box going round | 0:29:32 | 0:29:34 | |
and round on the baggage belt, and the customs man said, | 0:29:34 | 0:29:36 | |
"Oh, could that box... Could that be yours?" | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
And she said, "It might be." | 0:29:39 | 0:29:40 | |
And he said, "Well, have a look." | 0:29:40 | 0:29:42 | |
I opened it up and inside was all these plastic packages and one | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
of them was torn open and there were | 0:29:46 | 0:29:48 | |
leaves and seeds and things sticking out. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
And so the customs man said, | 0:29:50 | 0:29:52 | |
"You are arrested for smuggling cannabis," and she said, | 0:29:52 | 0:29:54 | |
"What? You just told me to open it!" | 0:29:54 | 0:29:56 | |
This is not my bag. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:58 | |
This is not my stuff. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:00 | |
You know, these things are sent to try us | 0:30:00 | 0:30:02 | |
and I just hope we can sort it out. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
I was charged with getting | 0:30:07 | 0:30:09 | |
together a pack of Fleet Street's finest and getting out there to lend | 0:30:09 | 0:30:14 | |
moral support and practical support. Probably about 25, | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
30 journalists, we flew out. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:19 | |
There was no shortage of takers, by the way, | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
in snow-bound London in January, | 0:30:22 | 0:30:24 | |
to go out on a trip to Barbados. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:26 | |
So we had a plane full of what you would call hacks. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:30 | |
# Whoa, I'm going to Barbados... # | 0:30:30 | 0:30:34 | |
I mean, poor Alan being sort of parachuted into Barbados | 0:30:34 | 0:30:38 | |
and expecting us to behave as if we were in London. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:42 | |
Well, that wasn't going to happen. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
The courtroom was in a sleepy little town called Worthing, | 0:30:45 | 0:30:49 | |
which was about five miles out of Bridgetown, | 0:30:49 | 0:30:52 | |
and it was like something out of a beautiful old colonial film. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
It was a small courtroom, oak panelled, | 0:30:55 | 0:30:57 | |
with a fan whirring gently. | 0:30:57 | 0:30:59 | |
The judge was about 100 years old, | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
had a wig and he... I'm sure he did go back to colonial times. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
And Alan Edwards was there stage managing it all. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
He got us totally onside. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:12 | |
And he made sure Jagger was nice to everybody, you know. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
The last thing he wanted was the press turning against Jerry or | 0:31:16 | 0:31:18 | |
saying it might be true. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
So right from the start we treated it as a preposterous | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
miscarriage of justice. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:25 | |
It never made sense that | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
she would bring in this bit of marijuana | 0:31:28 | 0:31:30 | |
into Barbados when really, if she wanted a joint, she could get it. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:34 | |
There, there was a semi-colonial attitude | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
but that was the way the world was then, you know. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:40 | |
This is this dark country far away and these wicked people have | 0:31:40 | 0:31:45 | |
taken our lovely, pouting, gorgeous Jerry Hall. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
MUSIC: We Can Dance If We Want To by Men Without Hats | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
# We can dance if we want to | 0:31:51 | 0:31:52 | |
# We can leave your friends behind | 0:31:52 | 0:31:53 | |
# Cos if friends don't dance | 0:31:53 | 0:31:55 | |
# And if they don't dance | 0:31:55 | 0:31:56 | |
# Well they're no friends of mine... # | 0:31:56 | 0:31:58 | |
Well, my role was to encourage the headlines, to slightly | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
ridicule the proceedings. It was like a Carry On court case, | 0:32:01 | 0:32:05 | |
but my job was to fan those flames, | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
and the more the headlines were lurid, | 0:32:07 | 0:32:09 | |
the better from my point of view, cos we didn't want | 0:32:09 | 0:32:11 | |
this to seem like a serious case and, frankly, it wasn't. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:15 | |
They were all full of things like, | 0:32:17 | 0:32:19 | |
"Jerry Hall incarcerated in hell hole." | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
The judge said, "This court case is not going to carry | 0:32:22 | 0:32:24 | |
"on with this kind of reporting. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:26 | |
"It's a disgrace. You've got to wait until the verdict is reached," | 0:32:26 | 0:32:30 | |
and, of course, the journalists paid no attention whatsoever. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
The covers carried on relentlessly | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
for about a week of what a disgraceful | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
thing this was and how Jerry Hall should be immediately released. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:42 | |
I think from the judge's point of view, you might call it | 0:32:42 | 0:32:44 | |
trial by media. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:46 | |
I just say media reporting how ridiculous the situation was. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:50 | |
I hear what you're staying, trial by media, | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
but we were just reporting the news. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
I remember one day the judge said, "Bring me the exhibit!" | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
And he sort of banged something, | 0:33:02 | 0:33:04 | |
and this old soldier came up from the back of the courtroom | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
in khaki, stumbling, carrying this massive box of marijuana. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:12 | |
Now, being a cardboard box, of course, | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
bits were, you know, coming off and breaking, | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
there was bits of grass falling all over the courtroom | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
floor as he staggered up the aisle towards the judge. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
The British journalists, of course, | 0:33:24 | 0:33:26 | |
were bending over, grabbing handfuls, putting them | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
in their pockets. It was uproar in the court courtroom... | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
No, no, no. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 | |
That's bloody Alan making stuff up again. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
I can't remember if they brought the marijuana into the court. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:39 | |
I think they must have done. Look, the whole island smelt of marijuana | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
anyway, so they probably did bring it into the courtroom, yeah. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
What was left of it. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:46 | |
The judge was banging his... "Stop proceedings! This is a disgrace! | 0:33:48 | 0:33:52 | |
"Outrage in my court!" And he stopped the trial. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
But actually he didn't seem to be bothered that the | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
journalists had all got packets. You know, grass, handfuls of dope | 0:33:58 | 0:34:03 | |
and stuff. What he was worried about was the prejudicial reporting that | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
was going on. He'd obviously just been handed the | 0:34:06 | 0:34:08 | |
papers from London, and I think maybe that did undermine the case. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:13 | |
And the whole case collapsed, | 0:34:15 | 0:34:17 | |
as did the cardboard box with the grass in it. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
Jerry, Jerry, how do you feel? | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
Very relieved. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
The Jerry Hall, Mick Jagger brand was sort of enhanced afterwards, | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
yes, and the great thing was that Mick had dropped everything to come | 0:34:32 | 0:34:36 | |
and sort of come and save his damsel in distress, | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
so that was that was... That played well certainly to my newspaper, | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
the Daily Mail, which you know, is generally a woman's paper. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:46 | |
This knight of rock coming to save his girl. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
That was really cool. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
There is no such thing, | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
short of being a paedophile, | 0:35:00 | 0:35:02 | |
as bad publicity. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:04 | |
It's an extraordinarily powerful aspect of life. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
I always say to everybody - | 0:35:07 | 0:35:09 | |
and I get calls off people who are up to their necks - | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
I say, "Forget about it. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
"First of all, the dogs bark, but the caravan moves on." | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
PR in the UK had gone from being a caravan to a massive great | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
juggernaut, thundering down the middle of the central reservation. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:25 | |
MUSIC: Smells Like Teen Spirit by Nirvana | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
There was an invisible moment a decade or two ago where the | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
number of journalists in decline was crossed | 0:35:30 | 0:35:34 | |
and overtaken by the number of PR people, so news organisations | 0:35:34 | 0:35:38 | |
are therefore enormously vulnerable to having PR people | 0:35:38 | 0:35:42 | |
decide what stories they cover and | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
with what angles and what pictures and what quotes. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
If the '80s were the golden age, the '90s were when PR went platinum. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:55 | |
Spin became the buzz word. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
# Hello, hello, hello, how low... # | 0:35:58 | 0:36:03 | |
And in the music industry it was PR, | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
combined with the best of British talent, that was to put | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
the UK music scene back on the map. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
# With the lights out | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
# It's less dangerous | 0:36:15 | 0:36:17 | |
# Here we are now | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
# Entertain us... # | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
The early '90s were dominated by American rock music. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
Dominated by the Seattle sound, dominated by grunge. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:29 | |
What happened was, sadly, Kurt Cobain died, | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
and when Kurt Cobain died it created a vacuum. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
And into that vacuum came British artists. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
British artists that were fed up | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
with the dominance of American artists. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
And the first of those bands was Suede. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
MUSIC: Animal Nitrate by Suede | 0:36:45 | 0:36:47 | |
# Like his dad you know that he's had | 0:36:47 | 0:36:50 | |
# Animal nitrate in mind... # | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
I sort of wanted to sing about things that | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
weren't allowed in the charts, conventionally. | 0:36:56 | 0:37:00 | |
I wanted to sing about sex and violence and all these | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
things, but not in a kind of Hollywood way, | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
in a real kind of kitchen sink way. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
And to sort of mould those into the shape of a pop song. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
# Oh, what turns you on... # | 0:37:11 | 0:37:15 | |
When Suede came along, they completely blew me away. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:18 | |
I thought they were, like, the most incredible | 0:37:18 | 0:37:20 | |
sexy, cocky band I had seen in years. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
I decided that we had to put | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
a team around the band before we put the first single out. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:28 | |
One of the team was PR man Phil Savidge. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:32 | |
His job was to get a buzz going around the band. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
The most straightforward way in which PR operates | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
is they write press releases, and a good press release | 0:37:40 | 0:37:44 | |
looks like a news story. It'll have a headline and an intro and quotes | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
from the key people. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
And that arrives in the news room, a nicely packaged | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
little story, with a ribbon around it, so to speak. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
I'd write things like, "Suede - the best band in the world," | 0:37:57 | 0:38:01 | |
with an asterix above it | 0:38:01 | 0:38:03 | |
and then people would look at the bottom of the press release | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
and at the asterix which was next to | 0:38:06 | 0:38:07 | |
it at the bottom and it would say, "True." | 0:38:07 | 0:38:09 | |
I wanted to write something that nobody could ignore. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
The point of pop music is that you attract attention. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
Don't ever believe any pop musician | 0:38:16 | 0:38:18 | |
that says they don't want to attract attention | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
because it's why you're on the stage. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
I used to build them up to be this thing that no band could possibly | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
be, and it felt like a game as well, that journalists knew that. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:31 | |
This was a band that was needed by the British music press, and the | 0:38:32 | 0:38:37 | |
PR person behind Suede understood that, understood it fantastically. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:41 | |
The noise created by the band and its PR | 0:38:43 | 0:38:45 | |
gave Suede a front cover that most bands can only pray for. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:50 | |
The Best New Band In Britain. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
What was so remarkable was that this | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
was before the band had released any music at all. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
As soon as that front cover happened, | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
then everything just fell into place, | 0:39:01 | 0:39:03 | |
as long as the records were good, which they were. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:06 | |
And when they emerged, the whole thing just blew up. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:10 | |
MUSIC: Metal Mickey by Suede | 0:39:10 | 0:39:15 | |
I call this perpetual motion. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
It's the PR's job to keep the band constantly in the news | 0:39:18 | 0:39:22 | |
and constantly on the front covers. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:24 | |
# Well, she's show showing it off then... # | 0:39:28 | 0:39:33 | |
I think by the time they got the NME cover, the industry was | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
talking about the band, all of the gigs were selling out, | 0:39:36 | 0:39:39 | |
they were building up a fan base, | 0:39:39 | 0:39:41 | |
Suedemania, really, was what was going on. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
# She sells hearts... # | 0:39:44 | 0:39:48 | |
So now everyone's talking Suede. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
Great. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:52 | |
But what the PR now needs to do is to keep them | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
visibly at the top, by whatever means necessary. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:58 | |
Before the first album came out, we've got 18 front covers. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:05 | |
It came to a point where we wouldn't let Brett speak to a newspaper | 0:40:05 | 0:40:10 | |
or a magazine unless it was a front cover. It got, you know, ridiculous. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:14 | |
So ridiculous that some complained | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
that the band were just a product of PR hype. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:21 | |
# She sells hearts... # | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
Hype would have got Suede one front cover. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:26 | |
It wouldn't have got them 18. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:28 | |
It was an unbelievable combination of talent, PR, and timing. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:34 | |
# She's driving me mad | 0:40:34 | 0:40:35 | |
# Oh, she... # | 0:40:35 | 0:40:39 | |
When the album was released, it was the fastest selling debut | 0:40:39 | 0:40:43 | |
album in British musical history. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:45 | |
With Suede as the inspiring pioneers, | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
grunge had been kicked off the map by a new movement. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:54 | |
Britpop. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:55 | |
MUSIC: Common People by Pulp | 0:40:55 | 0:40:57 | |
# She came from Greece She had a thirst for knowledge... # | 0:41:00 | 0:41:03 | |
Britpop was a particularly British media creation, | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
which included everyone from Suede to Pulp and Blur | 0:41:06 | 0:41:10 | |
to the Cain and Abel of British rock, | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
the Gallagher brothers with their band, Oasis. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:16 | |
I got caught shoplifting in that Co-op back there... | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
With them came the perfect storm of politics, music and PR. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:25 | |
MUSIC: Roll With It by Oasis | 0:41:25 | 0:41:27 | |
It's the 19th February, 1996, | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
and the annual Brit Awards are in full flow. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
And the rather surprising guest of honour | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
was the Prime Minister in waiting, | 0:41:41 | 0:41:43 | |
Tony Blair. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:45 | |
# You gotta roll with it | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
# You gotta take your time | 0:41:47 | 0:41:49 | |
# You gotta say what you say don't let anybody get in your way... # | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
It's been a great year for British music. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:56 | |
British music back once again | 0:41:56 | 0:42:00 | |
in its rightful place at the top of the world. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
The evening belonged, however, to Oasis. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:07 | |
# I think I've got a feeling I'm lost inside... # | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
In 1996, Oasis were at an absolute zenith. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:15 | |
People forget how big that band were. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
So by the time of the Brit Awards, they were front and centre. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
MUSIC: Live Forever by Oasis | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
Indeed they were and they swept the board, winning three awards. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:27 | |
Their swagger suggested they'd been enjoying their evening. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
# Maybe I don't really wanna know... # | 0:42:30 | 0:42:34 | |
I mean, the Oasis table were, like, | 0:42:34 | 0:42:38 | |
to a man, were on ecstasy, | 0:42:38 | 0:42:40 | |
so Noel was out of his mind, do you know what I mean, you know? | 0:42:40 | 0:42:44 | |
They were just, like, gone. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
And it was in this state that Noel gave one of the most | 0:42:47 | 0:42:50 | |
surprising speeches in the history of music. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:53 | |
Oi! | 0:42:53 | 0:42:55 | |
There are seven people in this room tonight who are giving a little | 0:42:55 | 0:42:59 | |
bit of hope to young people in this country. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:02 | |
That is me, our kid, Bonehead, | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 | |
Guigsy, Alan White, Alan McGee | 0:43:05 | 0:43:07 | |
and Tony Blair. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:09 | |
And if you've all got anything about you, you'll go up there | 0:43:09 | 0:43:11 | |
and you'll shake Tony Blair's hand, man. He's the man! | 0:43:11 | 0:43:14 | |
Power to the people! | 0:43:14 | 0:43:17 | |
I mean, it was, like, kind of a ridiculous statement | 0:43:17 | 0:43:19 | |
but, I mean, it was like... But I mean, when you're on ecstasy, | 0:43:19 | 0:43:22 | |
you make ridiculous statements. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:23 | |
He just happened to make it in front | 0:43:23 | 0:43:25 | |
of, like, 100 million people watching it. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:28 | |
Being endorsed by Noel Gallagher in that environment | 0:43:29 | 0:43:32 | |
was an absolute... | 0:43:32 | 0:43:34 | |
What's the word I'm looking for? | 0:43:34 | 0:43:35 | |
PR godsend? | 0:43:35 | 0:43:37 | |
Perfect. You should do PR. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:38 | |
The endorsement of the Labour Party by Oasis | 0:43:40 | 0:43:42 | |
in particular, was big, do you know what I mean, you know? | 0:43:42 | 0:43:46 | |
It made it cool to be young and vote Labour. | 0:43:46 | 0:43:49 | |
But New Labour, knowing they were onto a good thing, wanted more. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:55 | |
So one of Blair's inner circle, Margaret McDonagh, | 0:43:55 | 0:43:59 | |
contacted Alan McGee and his head of PR, Andy Saunders. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:02 | |
Margaret McDonagh wanted to understand what we did. | 0:44:04 | 0:44:06 | |
And how we did it. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:08 | |
She wanted to understand how you can manipulate popular culture. | 0:44:08 | 0:44:12 | |
How you can take popular culture and layer on politics | 0:44:12 | 0:44:17 | |
and layer on message. | 0:44:17 | 0:44:19 | |
MUSIC: Wonderwall by Oasis | 0:44:19 | 0:44:20 | |
# Today was gonna be the day they were gonna throw it back to you... # | 0:44:20 | 0:44:24 | |
She was smart enough to realise that if she used us properly, | 0:44:24 | 0:44:28 | |
and she used our knowledge, and she used our contacts, that she | 0:44:28 | 0:44:31 | |
could create something quite special for the Labour Party. | 0:44:31 | 0:44:36 | |
# By now you should have somehow realised what you gotta do... # | 0:44:36 | 0:44:40 | |
So the first thing she asked us for was Oasis' database. | 0:44:40 | 0:44:43 | |
We said, "No can do." | 0:44:43 | 0:44:45 | |
And then she said, "Can you get Noel to do | 0:44:45 | 0:44:49 | |
"the Youth Labour Party conference?" | 0:44:49 | 0:44:51 | |
So I was like, "I doubt it, but I'll ask." | 0:44:51 | 0:44:53 | |
And then I phoned him and | 0:44:53 | 0:44:55 | |
he was like, "I'm fucked, man. | 0:44:55 | 0:44:57 | |
"I'm just back from America, I cannae do it. | 0:44:57 | 0:44:59 | |
"Give them something, McGee. Just give them... | 0:44:59 | 0:45:02 | |
"Give them a gold disc or something." | 0:45:02 | 0:45:04 | |
# Back beat The word is on the street | 0:45:04 | 0:45:05 | |
# That the fire in your heart is out... # | 0:45:05 | 0:45:08 | |
So I went with this massive big fucking multi-platinum thing to Blair. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:12 | |
And I went to the Blackpool youth conference and I met Tony Blair. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:18 | |
# ..feels the way I do about you now. # | 0:45:18 | 0:45:21 | |
Tony Blair very cleverly used Creation Records | 0:45:21 | 0:45:24 | |
as a great example of New Labour. | 0:45:24 | 0:45:26 | |
It's...it's a great company, you know. | 0:45:26 | 0:45:29 | |
We should be really proud. Alan's just telling me he started 12 years ago with a 1,000 quid bank loan, | 0:45:29 | 0:45:33 | |
-and now it has a turnover of 34 million. Now, that's New Labour. -CHEERING | 0:45:33 | 0:45:37 | |
What you have to remember is everybody is spinning everybody. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:40 | |
Nobody is leading here. | 0:45:40 | 0:45:43 | |
There's too many good PR brains in the room for anybody to be spun. | 0:45:43 | 0:45:47 | |
# Cos maybe | 0:45:47 | 0:45:51 | |
# You're gonna be the one that saves me... # | 0:45:51 | 0:45:54 | |
And when New Labour won the election, it appeared to be win-win. | 0:45:54 | 0:45:59 | |
Everybody benefited. Creation got a huge amount of coverage, | 0:45:59 | 0:46:03 | |
the Labour Party won the election, | 0:46:03 | 0:46:05 | |
everybody won. | 0:46:05 | 0:46:07 | |
It put us very much onto the cultural agenda of the country. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:11 | |
Uh, and my phone didn't stop ringing for two years. | 0:46:11 | 0:46:14 | |
In July 1997, Noel Gallagher and Alan McGee | 0:46:18 | 0:46:22 | |
were invited to Downing Street in another PR coup for New Labour. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:27 | |
We arrived in a Rolls-Royce | 0:46:28 | 0:46:30 | |
and got chased up Downing Street by about 400 paparazzi, | 0:46:30 | 0:46:34 | |
went in, hung out for about two hours, | 0:46:34 | 0:46:38 | |
got shown round the place. | 0:46:38 | 0:46:40 | |
# You name the drama and I'll play the part... # | 0:46:40 | 0:46:45 | |
We knew we were being used, we knew what the deal was, | 0:46:45 | 0:46:49 | |
we knew that we were just part of a machine. | 0:46:49 | 0:46:53 | |
We got conned, but what can you do? Do you know what I mean? | 0:46:53 | 0:46:55 | |
I mean, it's like me and the rest of the country. Do you know what I mean? | 0:46:55 | 0:46:59 | |
# I've seen the storyline | 0:46:59 | 0:47:02 | |
# Played out so many times before. # | 0:47:04 | 0:47:08 | |
I think the ultimate problem was that the curtain got pulled back | 0:47:08 | 0:47:12 | |
and we saw the Wizard of Oz. | 0:47:12 | 0:47:14 | |
We saw the fact that PR had played a major part | 0:47:14 | 0:47:17 | |
in the election of New Labour. | 0:47:17 | 0:47:19 | |
We saw the advent of spin. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:21 | |
The magician revealed his tricks. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:24 | |
And whenever...whenever you do that, | 0:47:24 | 0:47:26 | |
whenever you put it in people's faces, they don't like it. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:29 | |
# And then it's over. # | 0:47:31 | 0:47:34 | |
But it couldn't continue and it didn't. | 0:47:34 | 0:47:38 | |
As the sun set on the 20th century, | 0:47:38 | 0:47:40 | |
the PR machine behind the music business | 0:47:40 | 0:47:43 | |
became a very different beast. | 0:47:43 | 0:47:45 | |
It's different now, because now, of course, artists tweet, | 0:47:46 | 0:47:49 | |
you know, they Instagram, it's a completely different climate. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:53 | |
You know, people especially now, more and more, | 0:47:53 | 0:47:55 | |
cos there's less space, people want to know what the story is. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:59 | |
It's not just down to if the record's good. | 0:47:59 | 0:48:02 | |
So somebody growing up today | 0:48:05 | 0:48:06 | |
that wants to know about Madonna, or whoever, | 0:48:06 | 0:48:09 | |
just has to look at all their YouTube clips and Instagram, | 0:48:09 | 0:48:12 | |
and they tweet. | 0:48:12 | 0:48:15 | |
So what this requires is a re-think for PR, | 0:48:18 | 0:48:21 | |
with a mash-up of old media and new. | 0:48:21 | 0:48:24 | |
And I can't think of two bigger or more diverse giants | 0:48:24 | 0:48:27 | |
to illustrate this than David Bowie and Taylor Swift, | 0:48:27 | 0:48:30 | |
both masters of PR. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:33 | |
In 2013, David Bowie had disappeared from public life | 0:48:38 | 0:48:41 | |
for almost a decade. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:43 | |
Apparently living in New York, | 0:48:43 | 0:48:45 | |
most people thought he'd retired. | 0:48:45 | 0:48:48 | |
However, in early 2013, | 0:48:50 | 0:48:52 | |
Bowie let on to a few of us that he was about to release a new single, | 0:48:52 | 0:48:57 | |
with an album to follow. | 0:48:57 | 0:48:59 | |
But he wasn't going to do any promotions or tour. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:02 | |
So how could PR turn this one around? | 0:49:02 | 0:49:05 | |
How could PR create a new kind of buzz | 0:49:05 | 0:49:07 | |
that mixed traditional PR with something new? | 0:49:07 | 0:49:12 | |
So first we went to Sky News | 0:49:12 | 0:49:14 | |
and then to BBC Radio 4 presenter, John Wilson. | 0:49:14 | 0:49:18 | |
Well, I was excited. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:20 | |
And I knew a lot of other people would be excited. | 0:49:20 | 0:49:22 | |
It's not just any old pop singer releasing a new record. | 0:49:22 | 0:49:26 | |
And I called a mate who's on the Today programme | 0:49:26 | 0:49:30 | |
and I said, "There's a lot of listeners | 0:49:30 | 0:49:32 | |
"that'd be pretty excited over their breakfast." | 0:49:32 | 0:49:34 | |
I think, to be honest, | 0:49:34 | 0:49:35 | |
at first, I'm not persuaded that it's a story for us. | 0:49:35 | 0:49:38 | |
My doubts were this is not normal business for the Today programme, | 0:49:38 | 0:49:41 | |
it's mostly news, politics, current affairs. | 0:49:41 | 0:49:43 | |
'Economically, we have unusual growth.' | 0:49:43 | 0:49:45 | |
And so in that context, doing an item about David Bowie is a risk. | 0:49:45 | 0:49:50 | |
'The time now, 7:51.' | 0:49:50 | 0:49:51 | |
But it was pitched like a bit of breaking news. | 0:49:51 | 0:49:54 | |
And I was persuaded by colleagues | 0:49:54 | 0:49:56 | |
that actually for an audience of the age of the Today programme's audience, | 0:49:56 | 0:50:00 | |
55 or thereabouts, he's a big, iconic figure, | 0:50:00 | 0:50:04 | |
and this was surprising enough | 0:50:04 | 0:50:05 | |
that it deserved its place on the programme. | 0:50:05 | 0:50:08 | |
'7:20, and guess what, David Bowie's released a new single. | 0:50:08 | 0:50:12 | |
'Not something he's done for quite a while, so it's a pretty big musical event. | 0:50:12 | 0:50:16 | |
'The man who alerted us to it, though, is John Wilson. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:18 | |
'This is a genuine surprise and there are going to be people out there, amazingly, | 0:50:18 | 0:50:23 | |
'who will be thinking, "Pop musician releases pop single, big deal, what's the news story?" | 0:50:23 | 0:50:28 | |
'But, you know, David Bowie is no ordinary musician.' | 0:50:28 | 0:50:31 | |
# Where are we now? | 0:50:31 | 0:50:34 | |
# Where are we now? # | 0:50:34 | 0:50:36 | |
This PR campaign was an example of less is more, | 0:50:36 | 0:50:40 | |
a technique that plays well with established artists. | 0:50:40 | 0:50:43 | |
This is the PR campaign that never was. | 0:50:50 | 0:50:53 | |
They wanted it to look like there had been no pre-planning, | 0:50:53 | 0:50:56 | |
this thing was just going to drop from the sky, | 0:50:56 | 0:50:58 | |
David Bowie just re-appears. | 0:50:58 | 0:51:00 | |
But, obviously, the cogs were all whirring behind the scenes. | 0:51:00 | 0:51:03 | |
And the idea of David Bowie returning on the Today programme on Radio 4, | 0:51:03 | 0:51:07 | |
I mean, it's a very clever twist on the idea that this is just a pop star releasing a pop single. | 0:51:07 | 0:51:12 | |
This is a serious cultural moment which breaks through, which deserves news headlines. | 0:51:12 | 0:51:18 | |
Alongside the traditional media, | 0:51:25 | 0:51:28 | |
we also added a limited social-media element. | 0:51:28 | 0:51:30 | |
Part of the plan was that we had pre-warned | 0:51:32 | 0:51:36 | |
influencers like Caitlin Moran, Dylan Jones | 0:51:36 | 0:51:39 | |
that there was going to be something interesting popping into their mail box at 5am the next morning. | 0:51:39 | 0:51:45 | |
And from there it proliferated, they tweeted about it, | 0:51:45 | 0:51:48 | |
told everybody else, and it went like wild fire on social media. | 0:51:48 | 0:51:52 | |
David Bowie is the latest singer to announce a comeback. | 0:51:52 | 0:51:56 | |
I have to come out as a bit of a Bowie fan. | 0:51:56 | 0:51:58 | |
I actually went on a Bowie pilgrimage this summer to Berlin. | 0:51:58 | 0:52:02 | |
Caitlin Moran says, "I'm so insanely excited, | 0:52:02 | 0:52:05 | |
"it's like hearing King Arthur's voice from the cave." | 0:52:05 | 0:52:08 | |
In the case of the Bowie release, | 0:52:10 | 0:52:13 | |
one could suggest it was less and more, | 0:52:13 | 0:52:14 | |
but I suggest that it was Bowie-esque, | 0:52:14 | 0:52:18 | |
um, in being counterintuitive. | 0:52:18 | 0:52:21 | |
And it was a statement about a generation | 0:52:21 | 0:52:25 | |
who were saying, "Me, me, me. Look at me, | 0:52:25 | 0:52:27 | |
"I'm across social media, I'm important." | 0:52:27 | 0:52:30 | |
Everyone was talking Bowie. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:34 | |
PR had focused him not just as an artist, | 0:52:34 | 0:52:37 | |
but now as a cultural icon. | 0:52:37 | 0:52:40 | |
The decision not to play by the usual rules | 0:52:41 | 0:52:43 | |
created a mystique and THAT draws people in. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:47 | |
Bowie's place at music's top table was assured. | 0:52:49 | 0:52:52 | |
But for younger artists, whose audience possibly don't always tune into the Today programme, | 0:52:56 | 0:53:02 | |
it is a case of more is more. | 0:53:02 | 0:53:04 | |
You have to be visible, touchable even. | 0:53:04 | 0:53:07 | |
-It's Taylor Swift, everybody! -CHEERING | 0:53:11 | 0:53:14 | |
Even before Taylor Swift | 0:53:14 | 0:53:16 | |
became one of the most successful stars on the planet, | 0:53:16 | 0:53:19 | |
she knew exactly what she wanted and where she wanted to be. | 0:53:19 | 0:53:24 | |
# I stay out too late | 0:53:25 | 0:53:28 | |
# Got nothing in my brain. # | 0:53:28 | 0:53:30 | |
She said, "Rick, I want a gold record." | 0:53:30 | 0:53:32 | |
And what that means in the United States is 500,000 units sold. | 0:53:32 | 0:53:36 | |
So my answer to her was, "Then great, | 0:53:36 | 0:53:39 | |
"let's go out and meet 500,000 people." | 0:53:39 | 0:53:41 | |
So, the goal from the beginning was to put her in front of people, | 0:53:41 | 0:53:46 | |
so that she could show them that she was different. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:49 | |
Well, thanks to social media, | 0:53:49 | 0:53:52 | |
Taylor could meet half a million of her fans, electronically at least. | 0:53:52 | 0:53:56 | |
She knew that she would be nowhere without these fans | 0:53:56 | 0:54:00 | |
and she wanted to relate to them. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:02 | |
Taylor Swift appears to be every girl. | 0:54:04 | 0:54:07 | |
I mean, all the girls want to be like Taylor Swift. | 0:54:07 | 0:54:09 | |
And I think there's probably some substance to that, | 0:54:09 | 0:54:12 | |
she is probably a bit like that, | 0:54:12 | 0:54:14 | |
but then she takes it and manipulates it and exaggerates it. | 0:54:14 | 0:54:18 | |
One of the interesting aspects | 0:54:18 | 0:54:20 | |
I have known about show business or talent or music, | 0:54:20 | 0:54:23 | |
is actually the people doing these things | 0:54:23 | 0:54:26 | |
are incredibly bright about themselves. | 0:54:26 | 0:54:29 | |
They recognise what their image is. | 0:54:29 | 0:54:32 | |
In order to spread the Taylor message, | 0:54:33 | 0:54:36 | |
she and her team utilised social media | 0:54:36 | 0:54:39 | |
in a way that put some of us PRs to shame. | 0:54:39 | 0:54:42 | |
Social media is a very powerful tool if used the right way, | 0:54:42 | 0:54:47 | |
or it's just a bunch of noise. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:50 | |
She understands that all forms of social media are different. | 0:54:50 | 0:54:53 | |
And what I mean by that is that she's going to take the most visual piece that she has | 0:54:53 | 0:54:58 | |
and that will be shared on Instagram. | 0:54:58 | 0:55:00 | |
She's going to take the quickest message that she has | 0:55:00 | 0:55:03 | |
and that can be shared on Twitter, | 0:55:03 | 0:55:05 | |
but it's driving them to a YouTube video or a Vevo video. | 0:55:05 | 0:55:09 | |
She uses social media and the tools properly for what they're used for. | 0:55:09 | 0:55:14 | |
And following the massive success of Swift's album 1989, | 0:55:16 | 0:55:20 | |
Taylor used social media to create the perfect publicity stunt for the modern age. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:25 | |
As the holiday season 2014 approached, | 0:55:27 | 0:55:31 | |
Swift, having done her research, | 0:55:31 | 0:55:32 | |
was filmed wrapping carefully chosen presents for a select group of super fans. | 0:55:32 | 0:55:38 | |
This was all then put online. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:40 | |
I found them on the Internet. | 0:55:41 | 0:55:44 | |
I would go online, I would look at their Instagram pages, | 0:55:44 | 0:55:47 | |
or their Tumblr, or their Twitter, or whatever, | 0:55:47 | 0:55:49 | |
and just kind of watch them for months and months. | 0:55:49 | 0:55:51 | |
By studying her fans, known as Swifties, | 0:55:53 | 0:55:56 | |
Taylor was able to give the gifts that she knew they really, really wanted. | 0:55:56 | 0:56:02 | |
Does Taylor have time to scour the Internet | 0:56:02 | 0:56:05 | |
to find out where people like to shop? | 0:56:05 | 0:56:07 | |
Or what their favourite things are? She doesn't. | 0:56:07 | 0:56:10 | |
So her team will go out and find these folks, | 0:56:10 | 0:56:13 | |
and then they'll give her the information, | 0:56:13 | 0:56:15 | |
and then she'll take care of it from there. | 0:56:15 | 0:56:17 | |
It's all about the experience. | 0:56:17 | 0:56:19 | |
And I think that's what Taylor does for her fans better than most. | 0:56:19 | 0:56:24 | |
So what happened was as these fans were opening up these packages, | 0:56:26 | 0:56:30 | |
they were documenting the idea of what was going on. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:35 | |
-And then they started sharing it. -I'm so happy about this! | 0:56:35 | 0:56:38 | |
It went double viral, because the biggest star in the world | 0:56:38 | 0:56:41 | |
was sending Christmas presents to these fans. | 0:56:41 | 0:56:43 | |
And then it went viral again through the fans' social-media platforms, | 0:56:43 | 0:56:47 | |
because they were telling the world, "Look what my favourite artist thought enough about me to do." | 0:56:47 | 0:56:54 | |
She knows exactly the key points to engage. | 0:56:54 | 0:56:57 | |
She also understands the cultural zeitgeist. | 0:56:57 | 0:57:01 | |
Who to bring in, who to lean on, who to support, where to be, | 0:57:01 | 0:57:05 | |
what events to be at, who to look after. | 0:57:05 | 0:57:08 | |
She has got a very focused idea of her own saleability. | 0:57:08 | 0:57:12 | |
-Shake it off? -Yes. -Shake it off? -Yeah, exactly. | 0:57:12 | 0:57:15 | |
Was it a PR move? | 0:57:15 | 0:57:17 | |
Absolutely it was a PR move, | 0:57:17 | 0:57:20 | |
but who wouldn't want to be on the end of that PR stunt? | 0:57:20 | 0:57:23 | |
So a lot of times, you can use the PR to your advantage. | 0:57:23 | 0:57:29 | |
And I think what's cool about the way she utilises PR, | 0:57:29 | 0:57:33 | |
is there's always a winner, and it's not just her, | 0:57:33 | 0:57:37 | |
but ultimately, in the end, it is her. | 0:57:37 | 0:57:40 | |
# Shake it off. # | 0:57:40 | 0:57:42 | |
So here we are. | 0:57:42 | 0:57:44 | |
You see, great publicists | 0:57:44 | 0:57:45 | |
have always used the media of the age to share a story. | 0:57:45 | 0:57:48 | |
From word of mouth...to social media, | 0:57:49 | 0:57:53 | |
via, of course, print, TV and radio. | 0:57:53 | 0:57:55 | |
Today, we can go direct to the people. | 0:57:57 | 0:57:59 | |
And if the people think it's a great idea, it explodes! | 0:57:59 | 0:58:04 | |
Everything has changed, but, actually, nothing has changed. | 0:58:06 | 0:58:11 | |
Whether or not it's an image makeover or a stunt, | 0:58:11 | 0:58:14 | |
or even your YouTube of delivering Christmas presents to your fans, | 0:58:14 | 0:58:17 | |
it's still about the PR's ability to tell a great story | 0:58:17 | 0:58:22 | |
and to tell it to as many people as possible. | 0:58:22 | 0:58:25 | |
So...gather round, folks. | 0:58:25 | 0:58:28 | |
Hold, hold, hold. | 0:58:28 | 0:58:30 | |
And your new career...begins here. | 0:58:30 | 0:58:34 | |
SHUTTER CLICKS | 0:58:34 | 0:58:36 | |
MUSIC: Always The Sun by The Stranglers | 0:58:36 | 0:58:39 |