The Duke at 90


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Tomorrow, Prince Philip, the Duke of Edinburgh, will turn 90.

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After standing at the Queen's side for nearly 60 years,

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he's recognised the world over,

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and has become the longest-serving consort in British history.

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But who exactly is the Duke?

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On the distant Pacific island of Tanna,

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the islanders think he's a god.

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A status reinforced by a series of photographs,

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some sent by the Duke himself.

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Here, at home, his status is rather more down to earth.

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He's familiar as the man who always stands two steps behind the Queen,

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just occasionally with his foot in his mouth.

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'But the true picture of the Duke is more interesting,

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'more complex and more surprising.'

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I've been observing the Duke at various events over the last six months,

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and the mythology surrounding him is extraordinary.

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For a start, most people think he's Greek.

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He's not.

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Most people think his life is limited to shaking hands on official visits.

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It isn't.

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Most people think he's irascible,

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with an unfortunate tendency to say the wrong thing.

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Well, maybe some of that's true. But one thing's certain -

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he doesn't suffer fools gladly,

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and he has a fearsome reputation when it comes to interviews.

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I'm on my way now to talk to him about his life and career,

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and I must admit, I'm feeling a little bit terrified.

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He's formidable.

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He's daunting, partly because of his position,

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but also because he is a very considerable intellect.

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The first time I met him it was absolutely clear

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that if you turned up and you hadn't mastered the papers

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he would detect it very quickly and you would be in trouble!

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Get him on a bad day and it's quite hard work.

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Get him on a good day, and you don't want to be with anybody else.

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I hope you have a good day.

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My father, purely and simply, is very modest about himself

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and doesn't believe in talking about himself.

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One of his best pieces of advice is,

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"Talk about everything else, don't talk about yourself.

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"Nobody's interested in you."

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Meeting him is rather extraordinary, because you get the impression

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of meeting a bird of prey, a hawk or an eagle.

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There's something penetrating about the eyes.

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You feel you're being sort of scanned.

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You raise your game. You rather hope he'll like you.

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What I really want to know is whether these perceptions of the Duke are in any way accurate.

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'The Duke of Edinburgh has been seen in many roles.

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'He was the dashing naval officer who wooed a princess...

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'..the moderniser at the heart of the 20th-century monarchy,

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'the man who created the Duke of Edinburgh's Award,

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'and the champion of the early environmental movement.'

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-I present Fiona Bruce.

-Your Royal Highness...

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'But as the Duke approaches his milestone birthday,

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'what intrigues me is how he shows so little sign of slowing down.

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'Still a force of nature.'

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-Um... You're 90 this year. Do you...?

-Well done!

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I know, I've managed to do my maths!

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Could you say there are any things that...

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that, above all the things you've done,

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that you are particularly proud of

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or that you would like people to think of as your greatest achievements?

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No, that's asking... No, that's asking too much.

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But the role that you have to an extent carved out for yourself...

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I think the perception is that you've made a huge success of it, I mean...

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-Splendid, if that's what you think.

-Is that what you think?

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I couldn't care less! HE CHUCKLES

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Who cares what I think about it? I mean, it's ridiculous.

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-But of course, of course we care!

-No. It isn't.

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There must be few figures in the public eye

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who are as reluctant as the Duke

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to trumpet their own achievements.

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Modest and to the point,

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this bird of prey is always alert to what is going on around him.

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The Queen and the Duke certainly do seem particularly at ease here,

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it was the Duke himself who decided

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that they should spend the actual day of their anniversary on Malta.

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For this very private of public couples, quite a romantic gesture.

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Finished? SHE LAUGHS

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How are you, sir?

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-Are you well, sir?

-Well, do I look ill?

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That rather bittersweet relationship with the media

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has become familiar, almost a caricature.

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And yet there was a time

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when he embraced the power of television with open arms.

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In the '50s and '60s, he was a pioneer in the new era

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of mass communication, pushing a slightly dusty monarchy into the modern age.

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In 1955, an informal Duke was filmed playing "sorcerer's apprentice"

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with Tommy Cooper, at the Variety Club.

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LAUGHTER

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He went on to become the first member of the Royal Family

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to give a TV interview...

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What you're really out to do is to change the way of thinking.

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We know perfectly well that people in this country

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have got a remarkable talent for things if they learn how to do them.

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..and, in 1957, the first to present his own television show.

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40 minutes to get round the world.

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Well, it's going to be a bit of a rush.

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It may leave you a little bit muddled,

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but I don't think it matters very much.

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In this programme,

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the Duke discussed the highlights of his recent world tour.

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It's a dried one. This is the nut, so to speak,

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rather like a dried coconut.

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A very peculiar shape, as you can see.

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And of course people think that's the forbidden fruit.

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I tasted one rather like that,

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it's a sort of jelly inside,

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and I can tell you it's... I'm not surprised it's forbidden.

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Later that year, he was asked to present a rather more

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scientific film on the geophysics of the planet.

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It was called the Restless Sphere.

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And now to the most important of all, the atmosphere

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and the sun. This inner ring here shows the upper limit of our weather

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and the clouds.

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'I was the anchorman for the thing, which was fascinating,'

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and I had to introduce each little section.

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I did, but it was the hottest day of the year

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and I managed to get out of the studio while the bits in-between were going on

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to cool down, came back, turned over two pages of script

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and left somebody out who was at the top of Mont Blanc waiting to be introduced.

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Which was a bit awkward.

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I suspect... You know, people's memories are short,

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and I suspect many people now will either not know

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because they'll be too young or they may not remember that you, you know,

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you did that kind of thing, that you did a press conference, that television programme,

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because I can't imagine you wanting to do anything like that now,

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-or even in the last 15, 20 years.

-How very perceptive of you!

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-What's changed?

-I didn't want to do this either!

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-You didn't want to do this interview?

-No!

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-So what made you...

-Since you ask!

-What made you say yes?

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Well, I don't know, it was... It was, I don't know,

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it was part of the business, I suppose, there was an inevitability about it.

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Following his early forays into television in the 1950s,

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the Duke saw the potential of using this modern means of communication.

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In 1968, his cousin-in-law, Lord Brabourne,

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a television producer himself, proposed a documentary which

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would show the Royal Family as it had never been seen before.

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My husband, John Brabourne,

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was certainly very enthusiastic at the idea of being able to show,

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er, the Royal Family as being natural and normal

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and doing a lot of things that everybody else in the country does

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as ordinary people, as Mr and Mrs, and not King, Queen and Prince Philip.

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-VOICE ON TV:

-'Naughty or not, they get a lot of experience...'

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Prince Philip agreed, and a film simply entitled Royal Family

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was made, broadcast on the 21st June, 1969.

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It was very much his idea.

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I think at the time he was trying to puncture the mystique

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and the subservient nonsense that surrounded the Royal Family

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and to say, "Look, we're a family, you know, with all the strengths

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"and weaknesses of a family, and we're a modern family,"

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which they were in the '60s, in that sense.

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He did have some very strange habits, your father.

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I remember, I used to come up to the lodge, I asked when I arrived

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and said, "Where's the King?" They said, "Oh, he's in the garden."

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And I went out, and there's nothing to be seen

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except for a lot of terribly rude words and language

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coming out of a rhododendron bush.

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I eventually found him there, hacking away,

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wearing a bearskin cap! Getting... LAUGHTER

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Although overall control was in the hands of the Palace,

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some insiders were said to have considerable reservations,

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as did the then-head of BBC Two, David Attenborough.

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The whole concept of royalty is a mysterious one

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and not a logical one.

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It depends on the proposition that the monarch, er,

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is different from us.

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Now, if you then say, no, no, no, they're exactly like everybody else,

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they fry sausages and they get up in the morning

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and they're occasionally bad-tempered and, you know,

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and do all the rest of the things that the rest of us do, for the moment,

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there's a frisson - everybody says, "Oooh, good Lord,

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"he's holding a frying pan, how astounding!"

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-The salad is ready.

-Good.

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But, in the end, if you're not very careful, you diminish

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the stature of royalty.

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I think the fact that it probably was a division amongst

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the Royal Family as to whether it was good or bad is an indication

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of the fact that you were on a very sharp knife edge.

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This one's fine. Did you mean to do that?

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-Oh, Andrew!

-Come round this side.

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Did you think it was a good idea once it had gone out?

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-Were you pleased with it?

-Well, it... Yes, it went down quite well.

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I mean, I think it's achieved a sort of curious status now

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which it never had at the time.

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Well, there's a certain mythology about it, I think.

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Some people have felt that it rather opened the sort of door to the press, in terms of...

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We don't belong to a secret society!

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I mean, I don't see why people shouldn't know what's going on.

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-But presumably...

-Much better that they should know than speculate.

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But presumably there also has to be a limit as well as to how intrusive...

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Well, yes, we didn't invite them into the bathroom.

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I mean...!

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People have judgment!

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Do you think it's become too intrusive now, though,

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the media interest in the... in yourself, in the Royal Family?

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It's, it's... It's natural.

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I mean...

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But, yes, I mean...

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The media is a professional intruder, I mean, it wouldn't...

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It wouldn't work if it did... That's what it's doing all the time.

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So you can't complain about it.

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Evidently, the Duke is a man who just gets on with life,

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rather than making a fuss.

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His enthusiasm for the Royal Family film was the mark of a moderniser,

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very much at odds with his public image today.

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HE SQUEALS AND SHOUTS

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Whatever effect the film may have had later in encouraging

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the public's curiosity with the Royal Family, his daring venture was

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a huge success, seen by a worldwide audience of 350 million people.

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But its cosy portrait of family life was about as far as you can get

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from the Duke's own formative years.

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Prince Philippos Schleswig Holstein Sonderburg Glucksburg

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was born on the kitchen table on the 10th June, 1921,

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on the Mediterranean island of Corfu.

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How would you describe yourself?

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Well, I'm Greek, well, I was born a Greek national.

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-But I was Danish by race.

-And how do you think of yourself now?

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I don't, I'm just here!

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The Greek Royal Family were not Greek.

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They had been imported from Denmark in the 19th century,

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and their reign was a troubled one.

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In 1922, just over a year after Philip was born, his father,

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Prince Andrew, was arrested by the Greek military government.

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He was charged with treason and narrowly escaped the firing squad.

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He and his family were then exiled.

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Philip spent his childhood living in France, in England and in Germany.

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Where did you call home when you were growing up?

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Wherever I happened to be.

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I had a very extended family.

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You say I went to all these places, it was always with family.

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Did it never feel unsettling, the fact that you were moving around so much?

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Well, I just lived my life.

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I mean... I haven't been trying to psychoanalyse myself all the time.

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By the early 1930s, Philip's parents' marriage had broken down.

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His mother retreated to a sanatorium in Switzerland

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while his father moved away to a small flat in Monte Carlo.

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Philip was to have only sporadic contact with either

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for the rest of his childhood.

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And as if that was not enough,

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Philip's four sisters then all married,

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within just nine months of each other, and moved to Germany.

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Aged just ten years old, Prince Philip was separated

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from every member of his immediate family.

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What's your memory of that time? Do you...? Was that a difficult...?

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Well, I came here and I went to school here

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and my grandmother lived here so it was...

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I was in with the family, it was no great deal.

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I mean, some people might...

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Well, some people might - I'm telling you what I felt!

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I think one of the reasons that Prince Philip won't talk

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about his childhood is that he's spent a lifetime

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actually blocking it out.

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He lost literally everybody.

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He therefore became very self-reliant.

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He keeps himself to himself. He protects himself,

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and simply says, "What's there to complain about?

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"You know, these things happen."

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In 1934, Prince Philip, aged 13,

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went to Gordonstoun School in Scotland.

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The school was founded by the German-Jewish refugee Kurt Hahn.

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He was a remarkable character.

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He was vaguely eccentric, I suppose, but he was an absolute genius with people,

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and he had the extraordinary ability

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to comprehend teenagers better than they did themselves, I think.

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Hahn had progressive ideas on education,

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believing in the power of the great outdoors, in fitness,

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self-discipline, and service to the community.

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These principles were to be hugely influential on Prince Philip throughout his life.

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My old headmaster Hahn said, "My boy, I want you to run an award scheme."

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And I said, "Well, yes, sir, but... you know, I can't do it by myself."

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and I said, "If you can get a committee of the great and the good together,

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"I'll chair it, if you like." That's what happened.

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The Duke of Edinburgh's Award, or DofE, was launched in 1956,

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and based on Kurt Hahn's philosophy.

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Give young people a chance to discover their own abilities for themselves

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as an introduction to the responsibilities and interests of the grown-up world.

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And, incidentally, to make new friends and have a great deal of fun

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and satisfaction in the process.

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'Even today, he is as dedicated as ever to the DofE,

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'visiting young people all over the country.'

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-You climb this?

-Yeah.

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Have you done anything else?

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I helped out at my swimming club.

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-Oh. No-one drown?

-Pardon?

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-No-one's drowned?

-No, no-one drowned.

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THEY LAUGH Well, good.

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'They're invited to choose things which they probably haven't done before.'

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HE LAUGHS I don't believe it.

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They set their own programme, and I think that in some way encourages them to go on with it,

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because they're challenging themselves,

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not doing it at somebody else's behest,

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and they choose the things they want to do.

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Very often they're things which they think might interest them,

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but nearly always it's a new experience.

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Three years ago, a prisoner at Reading Young Offender's Institution, Jon Watts,

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was offered the chance to change his life,

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when he was invited to take part in the DofE.

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When I was at school I'd heard about the DofE,

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but my perception was that it wasn't for people like me,

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it was for a higher class of people.

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All I knew about the Duke of Edinburgh before I was in prison

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was that he was married to the Queen

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and he was famous for saying rude things to a lot of foreign people.

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But in spite of Jon's early impression of the Duke and his award,

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he has, while in prison, completed the bronze, silver and gold awards.

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What Jon has done whilst in custody is truly remarkable.

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He is an inspiration, not just to his peers, fellow young offenders,

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but to staff.

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You know, for somebody to actually do the full set, the bronze,

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the silver and the gold whilst in custody, it hasn't been done before.

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Back in April, a few weeks before his release from prison,

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Jon received his gold award at a presentation ceremony

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at St James's Palace in London.

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While there he met the Duke, who asked him about his community service.

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What did you do for your service?

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For my service I worked alongside the Samaritans.

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-The Samaritans?

-Yeah.

-Oh. You didn't try committing suicide, did you?

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I didn't, no.

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'It turns out the Duke of Edinburgh is a real inspiration.

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'It's because of him that I am able to change my life.'

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People say to me that your life in prison is lost.

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However, if I can come out of prison with a DofE gold award

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I can show them that and say, "It's not lost."

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Did you all do your expedition...?

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'I think he goes on being amazed by the numbers of young people that want to do it.'

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The DofE has continued to grow, and there are young people coming in

0:20:500:20:54

from all sorts of backgrounds now

0:20:540:20:55

that perhaps would never have been possible when it started.

0:20:550:20:58

What did you do?

0:20:580:21:00

I was a mentor for young pupils in a school.

0:21:000:21:02

Led them astray, did you?

0:21:020:21:06

Not quite!

0:21:060:21:07

Are you proud of the Duke of Edinburgh Award scheme

0:21:070:21:10

and the numbers that have gone through it and what it's achieved?

0:21:100:21:13

I've got no reason to be proud of it. I mean, I think it's satisfying

0:21:130:21:17

that we've set up a formula that works.

0:21:170:21:21

Erm...

0:21:210:21:22

Yes, I mean, that's it.

0:21:240:21:26

Why do say there's no reason to be proud of it?

0:21:260:21:30

Well, I don't run it, I mean, I don't, I don't...

0:21:300:21:34

I've said it's all fairly second-hand, the whole business.

0:21:340:21:38

I mean, I eventually got landed with the responsibility, or the credit for it, but, er...

0:21:380:21:44

And of course it has your name.

0:21:440:21:46

Well, that was strictly against my better judgment.

0:21:460:21:50

I tried to avoid it, but I was eventually overridden.

0:21:500:21:54

And did you all...?

0:21:540:21:57

There are hundreds and hundreds of people whose lives have been turned around.

0:21:570:22:00

I think that this is one of the greatest achievements

0:22:000:22:03

of his life, you know,

0:22:030:22:04

to set up the Duke of Edinburgh's Award scheme, because, erm...

0:22:040:22:08

This sort of set a benchmark. This is a real gift to the nation.

0:22:090:22:14

If the DofE is the Duke's greatest achievement,

0:22:180:22:21

it was probably his time on the high seas that made him the man he is today.

0:22:210:22:26

In 1939, Prince Philip arrived at Dartmouth Naval College,

0:22:280:22:33

set on a career in the Royal Navy.

0:22:330:22:35

We're all the sum of our past.

0:22:350:22:37

I mean, Prince Philip reflects his childhood, his upbringing,

0:22:370:22:40

but most of all, I think, at the heart of Prince Philip,

0:22:400:22:43

is his time in the Navy.

0:22:430:22:44

From the age of 18, he was a professional sailor.

0:22:440:22:47

While at Dartmouth, Philip was also to meet his future wife.

0:22:500:22:54

In July 1939, the King and Queen visited the college with their two daughters.

0:22:560:23:00

Philip was chosen as the young princesses' escort.

0:23:030:23:07

Princess Elizabeth, then only 13 years old,

0:23:080:23:11

was said to taken an immediate shine to the handsome prince.

0:23:110:23:15

Well, I think it was love at first sight according to her.

0:23:160:23:20

And she told her father's authorised biographer

0:23:200:23:23

that he was allowed to say so. So that must be so.

0:23:230:23:26

Although it wasn't the first time that they'd seen each other,

0:23:260:23:30

because Prince Philip used to go and stay with his aunt,

0:23:300:23:34

the Duchess of Kent, and so they would be at, you know, parties.

0:23:340:23:39

I think that was the first time she really thought, "Goodness,

0:23:390:23:45

"I'm really mad about this man."

0:23:450:23:48

Two months later came the outbreak of the Second World War,

0:23:510:23:55

and soon after, Prince Philip entered active service.

0:23:550:23:59

In March 1941, aboard HMS Valiant,

0:24:000:24:03

he saw action off the Greek coastline in the Battle of Matapan.

0:24:030:24:08

An early indication that Prince Philip had something about him

0:24:100:24:14

came during the Battle of Matapan, which was a famous night action,

0:24:140:24:19

during which three Italian heavy cruisers were sunk.

0:24:190:24:22

And a night action with gunnery is all pretty close.

0:24:220:24:26

There was some cruisers coming down on the battleship,

0:24:290:24:32

there was a tremendous amount of to-ing and fro-ing

0:24:320:24:34

and eventually the battle fleet, the Mediterranean fleet

0:24:340:24:37

under Admiral Cunningham set off, and we managed to catch

0:24:370:24:41

the three Italian cruisers coming south in the middle of the night,

0:24:410:24:46

and they were quite unaware we were there,

0:24:460:24:50

and the battleships opened fire and blew them out...

0:24:500:24:53

Well, made an awful mess of them, that's for sure.

0:24:530:24:55

He was mentioned in dispatches by the commander-in-chief.

0:24:570:25:00

He would say, "Anyone would have done that, I'm sure."

0:25:000:25:03

But he was the man on the day and it was a noteworthy action, and therefore was recorded.

0:25:030:25:08

In 1945, with the war now over, the 24-year-old Prince Philip

0:25:130:25:18

returned to Britain, every bit the dashing naval officer -

0:25:180:25:23

something not lost on the young Princess Elizabeth.

0:25:230:25:26

In 1946, at the wedding of the daughter of his uncle, Lord Mountbatten,

0:25:300:25:35

rumours began to spread of a royal romance.

0:25:350:25:38

At my wedding, the two princesses were bridesmaids,

0:25:410:25:45

and there was a picture taken going into the church,

0:25:450:25:49

and it was quite a cool day, and the Princess, and the others,

0:25:490:25:52

all had wraps on.

0:25:520:25:54

Prince Philip was one of the ushers.

0:25:540:25:56

And a photograph was taken of her handing her wrap to him to take,

0:25:560:26:02

which seemed a perfectly normal thing to do.

0:26:020:26:06

But somehow or other, somewhere, somebody said "Ah-ha",

0:26:060:26:10

you know, "What does this mean?"

0:26:100:26:12

Unbeknown to most of the wedding guests,

0:26:150:26:17

Philip was already privately engaged to his princess,

0:26:170:26:21

with the official announcement coming in July 1947.

0:26:210:26:23

In preparation for his new life,

0:26:260:26:28

Philip also renounced his Greek and Danish royal titles,

0:26:280:26:31

and became a British subject, adopting the surname Mountbatten.

0:26:310:26:37

But to some, Lieutenant Philip Mountbatten

0:26:370:26:39

remained not quite one of us.

0:26:390:26:42

There was certainly a sense that he was not considered

0:26:440:26:47

to be quite kosher.

0:26:470:26:51

You know, he was from a sort of slightly disreputable royal wing

0:26:510:26:54

from a country that had gone republican and all the rest of it,

0:26:540:26:59

and a troubled family.

0:26:590:27:00

He was the first person to really come in from the outside world since Prince Albert,

0:27:000:27:06

so a good 100 years had passed.

0:27:060:27:08

You came in as an outsider, to a certain extent. Erm...

0:27:110:27:16

Well, rather less an outsider than some.

0:27:160:27:19

I mean, my father was King George V's first cousin.

0:27:210:27:25

I came to the Duchess of Kent's wedding here,

0:27:250:27:30

I met the Queen when she was 12 or something. Erm...

0:27:300:27:36

Not quite such an outsider as you might think.

0:27:360:27:39

'The day of the wedding, and immense crowds.

0:27:410:27:43

'Thousands had assembled overnight, others had arrived at dawn,

0:27:430:27:47

'all eagerly waiting to see and to cheer the royal processions

0:27:470:27:51

'on this day of their own princess's marriage.'

0:27:510:27:54

On November 20th 1947 in Westminster Abbey,

0:27:580:28:01

Philip Mountbatten married our future Queen.

0:28:010:28:04

That morning he was given a new title by his father-in-law,

0:28:090:28:12

King George VI.

0:28:120:28:13

He was now His Royal Highness the Duke of Edinburgh.

0:28:130:28:16

But more importantly, perhaps,

0:28:200:28:22

marriage brought Philip a sense of real family life and stability

0:28:220:28:26

that had been lacking in his life since he was a ten-year-old boy.

0:28:260:28:30

Marrying the Princess gave Prince Philip a centre,

0:28:330:28:37

and a feeling of security,

0:28:370:28:41

since he'd not had, really, much of a home in his youth and childhood.

0:28:410:28:47

He was particularly happy when they were first married.

0:28:560:28:59

It was a sort of real family life

0:29:010:29:03

and he was always allowed to wear the trousers,

0:29:030:29:08

and what he wanted went.

0:29:080:29:10

One year later, Prince Philip became a father,

0:29:140:29:16

with the birth of Prince Charles.

0:29:160:29:19

-NEWSREEL:

-'Now the Duke of Edinburgh takes a fatherly hand,

0:29:190:29:22

'his technique being no better and no worse than most fathers.

0:29:220:29:25

'A slight remonstrance from Princess Elizabeth

0:29:250:29:28

'but not, I think, a real protest.'

0:29:280:29:30

By the standards of the time,

0:29:320:29:33

Prince Philip was very much a hands-on father, hands and knees,

0:29:330:29:37

playing with the children,

0:29:370:29:38

but there are also first-hand accounts that I've been told

0:29:380:29:41

of Prince Philip not just bathing the children,

0:29:410:29:44

playing with the children, but reading to the children.

0:29:440:29:47

He was a hands-on dad

0:29:470:29:48

in the way that many fathers of that generation weren't.

0:29:480:29:51

He was very actively involved in his children's childhood.

0:29:510:29:54

But Philip was often away,

0:30:010:30:03

fulfilling his duties as a serving officer.

0:30:030:30:06

In 1949 he was stationed in Malta,

0:30:090:30:11

where he was joined by his young wife.

0:30:110:30:14

That period in Malta was probably the most special time they ever had

0:30:190:30:23

because they were newly married,

0:30:230:30:25

they were naval officer and wife living in Malta.

0:30:250:30:27

I know people who were with them in Malta at that time.

0:30:270:30:30

They appeared incredibly happy.

0:30:300:30:32

That struck me as a relatively carefree time for you both, I presume to say.

0:30:350:30:40

You're obsessed with carefree!

0:30:400:30:42

Simply because it strikes me that your life after that...

0:30:420:30:45

It was a professional life, I was a professional naval officer.

0:30:450:30:49

But you weren't having to do the...

0:30:510:30:53

I was having to do my duties as a professional naval officer.

0:30:530:30:56

You've probably never had a profession, so you don't know what that means.

0:30:560:31:00

-Well, I flatter myself, I have one now, but perhaps...

-I see, right.

-..not in your view.

0:31:000:31:06

All I mean is that the level of official functions, state visits,

0:31:060:31:09

the kind of thing that you then took on,

0:31:090:31:11

you weren't doing as much of it then, as I understand it.

0:31:110:31:14

No, I wasn't before, no.

0:31:140:31:15

-It was a very different life.

-Yes.

0:31:150:31:17

And one that you enjoyed.

0:31:170:31:19

Yes, I had no grumbles.

0:31:190:31:23

Despite the Duke's typical reticence,

0:31:260:31:29

the Navy was undeniably important to him.

0:31:290:31:32

It gave him a sense of authority and duty that has never left him.

0:31:320:31:37

He rose by his own merits from a cadet to the command of a ship.

0:31:370:31:41

But in 1951, George VI became seriously ill,

0:31:440:31:48

diagnosed with lung cancer.

0:31:480:31:50

He was only 55 years old.

0:31:500:31:53

Princess Elizabeth and the Duke were now called upon

0:31:550:31:57

to take over some of the King's official duties.

0:31:570:32:01

The Duke's active naval career was effectively over.

0:32:010:32:05

There was a huge demand for visits abroad, for all sorts of things,

0:32:080:32:15

and I think there was a general understanding

0:32:150:32:21

that it would be more sensible if I didn't go on with the Navy.

0:32:210:32:24

Is it something you'd have liked to have continued?

0:32:240:32:27

That's hypothetical.

0:32:270:32:28

It is, but I'm asking the question! Would you like to have continued?

0:32:280:32:32

No answer!

0:32:320:32:34

You must have thought about it.

0:32:340:32:36

Let me put it another way, then.

0:32:390:32:41

Was it difficult to give up?

0:32:410:32:43

If I thought of it at all,

0:32:430:32:46

I thought I could perfectly well go on with a career.

0:32:460:32:49

It didn't seem to...

0:32:490:32:51

And it seemed to me it would have been of great value to the Queen,

0:32:510:32:55

when she became Queen eventually,

0:32:550:32:57

to have somebody who was, in a sense,

0:32:570:32:59

professionally qualified in something

0:32:590:33:01

and not just traipsing around.

0:33:010:33:04

-NEWSREEL:

-'It is with the greatest sorrow

0:33:050:33:08

'that we make the following announcement.

0:33:080:33:11

'The King passed peacefully away in his sleep earlier this morning.'

0:33:110:33:16

When the news came through, the Duke and the Queen were in Kenya,

0:33:160:33:20

on their way to Australia for an official tour.

0:33:200:33:22

According to the Duke's Private Secretary, Philip looked,

0:33:230:33:27

"As if you'd dropped half the world on him."

0:33:270:33:31

There was no chance now of him returning to the Navy.

0:33:310:33:34

I think the death of the King was a most appalling shock, really,

0:33:380:33:41

for both the Princess, who then became Queen, and for Prince Philip.

0:33:410:33:47

They should have had at least another five years, really.

0:33:470:33:50

And it all obviously changed overnight.

0:33:500:33:54

So, I think it must have been very, very difficult for both of them.

0:33:540:33:59

On 2nd June 1953, at the Queen's Coronation,

0:34:180:34:22

the Duke of Edinburgh stepped forward

0:34:220:34:25

and knelt in homage to his sovereign.

0:34:250:34:28

He placed his hands between hers and said...

0:34:280:34:32

The Queen's accession to the throne

0:34:500:34:52

was a turning point in the Duke's life.

0:34:520:34:56

He was no longer his wife's equal. He was now her subject.

0:34:560:35:01

I think the first year for him

0:35:040:35:06

after the Queen became Queen must have been difficult,

0:35:060:35:09

when, at the State Opening of Parliament,

0:35:090:35:12

your chair is lower than the Queen's.

0:35:120:35:15

You're very much pushed into the background.

0:35:150:35:18

Prime Minister, Your Majesty.

0:35:180:35:20

And while the Queen has access to state papers,

0:35:210:35:23

and a weekly meeting with the Prime Minister of the day,

0:35:230:35:26

the Duke has no such role.

0:35:260:35:29

Instead he was given non-constitutional duties,

0:35:290:35:33

the job of overseeing the Royal estates and of running the family.

0:35:330:35:37

Something key to remember about Prince Philip

0:35:390:35:42

is that his life has been almost unique.

0:35:420:35:44

Women are accustomed to their lives being defined by the man they married.

0:35:440:35:49

Men of Prince Philip's generation

0:35:490:35:51

are not accustomed to having their lives defined by their wives.

0:35:510:35:55

Recognising the need to establish a firm position for the Duke,

0:36:000:36:04

the Queen announced that the Duke was to have,

0:36:040:36:07

"place, pre-eminence and precedence", next to her,

0:36:070:36:09

"on all occasions and in all meetings,

0:36:090:36:12

"except where otherwise provided by Act of Parliament".

0:36:120:36:16

The other thing you've talked about

0:36:160:36:18

is the division of labour between yourself and the Queen.

0:36:180:36:22

You've said in the past you've achieved a reasonable double act.

0:36:220:36:26

What did you mean by that? How does that work?

0:36:260:36:29

Well, she has a constitutional role

0:36:290:36:32

and has constitutional responsibilities,

0:36:320:36:35

which I don't.

0:36:350:36:37

Where we join up

0:36:370:36:40

is when she goes on visits which are not constitutional.

0:36:400:36:45

So, that works out very well.

0:36:450:36:48

What was more difficult for the Duke to establish

0:36:490:36:52

was what exactly was his role when he was away from the Queen.

0:36:520:36:55

The problem, of course, was to recognise what the niche was,

0:36:590:37:03

and to try and grow into it, and that was by trial and error.

0:37:030:37:09

There was no precedent,

0:37:090:37:12

but if I asked somebody, "What do you expect me to do?"

0:37:120:37:15

they all looked blank.

0:37:150:37:16

They had no idea. Nobody had much idea.

0:37:160:37:18

So, not very helpful, then?

0:37:180:37:20

Well, it wasn't they weren't helpful,

0:37:200:37:22

but nobody had really thought about it.

0:37:220:37:25

So, it was really, eventually, trial and error.

0:37:260:37:30

And how did you go about finding that niche?

0:37:300:37:32

Well, various people suggested things.

0:37:320:37:37

I know that it was suggested

0:37:370:37:39

that I should take on some sort of charity,

0:37:390:37:42

and my uncle, Lord Mountbatten, persuaded me to...

0:37:420:37:47

He followed my father-in-law

0:37:470:37:50

as president of The National Playing Fields Association,

0:37:500:37:53

and he suggested I should take that on

0:37:530:37:55

because it would have given me

0:37:550:37:58

some connection with recreational life in the country,

0:37:580:38:04

and it turned out to be very valuable.

0:38:040:38:06

What do you boys want?

0:38:060:38:08

ALL: We want to see the boss!

0:38:080:38:10

I'm afraid he's very busy.

0:38:100:38:12

-It's very important.

-We want to see the boss!

0:38:120:38:15

-Please can we see him!

-What do you want to see me about?

0:38:150:38:18

-Cos we want a playing field.

-Well, you've come to the right place.

0:38:180:38:22

The Playing Fields Association was a huge success,

0:38:290:38:33

and one of the first of over 800 different organisations

0:38:330:38:36

that came knocking at the Duke's door.

0:38:360:38:40

And when you talk about finding a niche, how did you set about doing that?

0:38:410:38:45

Wait for invitations.

0:38:450:38:47

-Is that right?

-Roughly, yes.

0:38:470:38:49

Because one thing after another, people started saying,

0:38:490:38:52

"Will you come do this? Will you come do that?"

0:38:520:38:55

And that accumulated and snowballed like you wouldn't believe it.

0:38:550:39:00

Alongside the Duke of Edinburgh's Award,

0:39:020:39:04

the project that has given the Duke the biggest international profile

0:39:040:39:08

is the conservation of the natural world.

0:39:080:39:11

His importance to conservation worldwide has been absolutely huge.

0:39:120:39:17

You can go anywhere in the world

0:39:170:39:20

and he will know where you have to make the connection,

0:39:200:39:23

where you have to put the pressure, what you have to do.

0:39:230:39:26

And he's very practical in those terms.

0:39:260:39:31

50 years ago, the Duke was asked to be the first UK president of the World Wildlife Fund.

0:39:330:39:39

And then 20 years later, he became the organisation's international president.

0:39:390:39:44

He wasn't asked because he was the Duke of Edinburgh.

0:39:440:39:48

He was asked because he was the best person in the world

0:39:480:39:51

to become the president, and we were very ambitious.

0:39:510:39:53

He was much more than a figurehead of WWF

0:39:530:39:57

because he would look at programmes

0:39:570:39:59

both for fundraising and conservation.

0:39:590:40:02

He went on many tours, different parts of the world,

0:40:020:40:05

to promote conservation, went into the field, met the workers there,

0:40:050:40:08

met the local government officials.

0:40:080:40:11

He was just amazing.

0:40:110:40:13

If we've got this extraordinary diversity on this globe,

0:40:160:40:20

it seems awfully silly for us to destroy it,

0:40:200:40:23

because all these other creatures have an equal right to exist here.

0:40:230:40:28

We have no prior rights to the Earth than anybody else.

0:40:280:40:35

And if they're here, let's give them a chance to survive.

0:40:360:40:39

Would you describe yourself as a green?

0:40:390:40:42

-As green?

-No. No.

0:40:420:40:45

Why not?

0:40:450:40:47

Well, because I think that there's a difference

0:40:490:40:52

between being concerned for the conservation of nature

0:40:520:40:56

and being a bunny hugger.

0:40:560:41:00

A bunny hugger. What do you mean by that?

0:41:020:41:06

Well, can't you imagine?

0:41:060:41:09

-It's not a term I've heard before, I must say.

-Haven't you?

0:41:090:41:11

-People who simply love animals.

-What, in a sentimental way?

0:41:110:41:17

Yes, well, most people...

0:41:170:41:20

When I was president of WWF

0:41:200:41:21

I got more letters about the way animals were treated in zoos

0:41:210:41:28

than about any concern for the survival of a species.

0:41:280:41:32

People can't get their heads round the idea of a species surviving.

0:41:320:41:37

They're more concerned about how you treat a donkey in Sicily or something.

0:41:370:41:41

In 1986, the Duke combined his practical and unsentimental approach to conservation

0:41:450:41:50

with a long-standing interest in religion

0:41:500:41:52

and its affects on the world.

0:41:520:41:54

We asked leaders of the main faiths to discuss amongst themselves

0:41:560:42:00

what their attitude was

0:42:000:42:02

to the natural creation, or to the natural environment, with a view to,

0:42:020:42:08

if they then thought that they had any responsibility for it,

0:42:080:42:11

to try and disseminate that within their communities.

0:42:110:42:15

The Duke's initiative was welcomed, and in 1995,

0:42:170:42:20

an organisation called ARC,

0:42:200:42:22

or the Alliance of Religions and Conservation, was launched.

0:42:220:42:26

Prince Philip had the vision to see this could go much bigger

0:42:290:42:32

and that it could actually become one of the most powerful forces

0:42:320:42:35

in the whole conservation movement.

0:42:350:42:38

The fact that the major faiths

0:42:380:42:40

own about 8% of the habitable surface of the planet,

0:42:400:42:43

they either run or contribute to over 50% of all schools worldwide,

0:42:430:42:47

and they're trusted.

0:42:470:42:50

In many countries in the world, nobody trusts the government,

0:42:500:42:53

nobody trusts international agencies,

0:42:530:42:56

they do trust their faiths, and the religious environmental organisations

0:42:560:42:59

are the fastest-growing environmental organisations in the world.

0:42:590:43:02

What do you see as the biggest challenges in conservation?

0:43:020:43:08

The growing human population.

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Because from where we are, there's nothing else.

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And do you have views about what should be done about that?

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Can't you guess?

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Well, it could be on a spectrum

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from mass sterilisation to...

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No, no, no!

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..to greater availability of contraception.

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I don't know what your views are as to what can be done about it.

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I think it might be described as voluntary family limitation.

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As we know, he always speaks his mind.

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Sometimes not necessarily with a high degree of tact,

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but on the other hand, I think that people

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have come to expect that of him and they really rather enjoy it.

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They think, "How nice to hear somebody actually say what they think."

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For decades, often trying to lighten the atmosphere,

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the Duke has come up with off-the-cuff remarks

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that have been lapped up by the world's press.

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Now, he's a man known for his plain speaking

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and on his trip to Australia,

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the Duke of Edinburgh hasn't disappointed.

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He caused something of a furore

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when he asked a group of Aboriginal dancers

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if they still threw their spears at each other.

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During a visit to the new Welsh Assembly in May, he met a group

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from the British Deaf Association, standing by a Caribbean band.

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"Deaf? If you're near there, no wonder you're deaf," he reportedly told them.

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Annoyingly for the Duke, his often rather light-hearted approach

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is sometimes misunderstood, with many of his comments seized upon

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by journalists waiting, notebook or camera to hand.

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Do you feel that the press has been unfair to you?

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Has given you a bit of a hard time?

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Misrepresented you?

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I suppose, yes, occasionally, but, um...

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I think the...the... It has its own agenda

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and that's it, you just have to live with it.

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But it must frustrate you. I mean, certainly, you've said before

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that there are things you might have got involved in or wanted to do

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and, you know, the press would kind of ruin it.

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Well, if you're standing on a railway line

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and an express train's coming down,

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the sensible thing is to get out of the way, isn't it?

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But that's not always been easy for the Duke.

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In 1986, on a tour of China,

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he was talking to a group of British students off the record

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and quipped that if they stayed in China much longer,

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they would come back with slitty eyes.

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This thing keeps coming up about, "Oh, yes, er, Prince Philip -

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"he says this about people having slitty eyes," or whatever it is.

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Is that fair or do you think, to some extent,

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-you're the author of your own misfortune?

-Who reported it?

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-Well, it was reported in the press, but you...

-By whom?

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By newspapers.

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But who?

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Well, the-the...

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The Times correspondent.

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Right.

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Called Mr Hamilton.

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But for him, it wouldn't have come out.

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I mean, there are two ways of looking at that. You could say,

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"For heaven's sake, he was making a joke, lightening the atmosphere, what's the problem?"

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Or you could say, "It was a bit un-PC, maybe he shouldn't have said that."

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It had no effect in China, if that's what you're worried about.

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I'm not worried about it at all, but I wondered what you felt about it?

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I'd forgotten about it.

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It was meant to be funny

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and in the time of when it was made,

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I'm willing to bet you they all started laughing.

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But the media picked it up,

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it was taken out of context.

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Now, you can easily say, "Well, a man of his stature

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"and his exposure to the media should be aware of the..."

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Well, so what? The fact is that he's bigger than all of those things.

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Nowhere has the press been more invasive

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than in its examination of Royal relationships.

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But throughout it all, and usually behind the scenes,

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those close to him say that the Duke has acted as patriarch,

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providing support and advice for a family sometimes under fire.

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I think what he is very good at

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is recognising the extraordinary strains

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that the Royal Family are under

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and that they put the young ones under.

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I think first and foremost, he will give a pillar to lean on

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in terms of what is right and what is appropriate

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and how to deal with some of the real strains and stresses.

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I think also, he is, in his own way, very affectionate.

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So I think that quietly, privately, he will be a tremendous support.

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And yet, there have been internal stresses.

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For years, there has been a perception

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that the Duke and his eldest son

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have not always seen eye to eye.

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I think from Prince Charles's side,

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there is a hesitation about his father.

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His father is quite a strong, authoritarian figure,

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there's no question about that.

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Erm, and I think that there have been...

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There is a real difference of personality there.

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In terms of basic affection... No, I think that's strong.

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But I think in terms of a sense of respecting each other's spaces,

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and sometimes avoiding each other's spaces,

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that's there as well.

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When it came to the Royal Family's most traumatic event in recent history,

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the funeral of Diana, Princess of Wales,

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the Duke provided much needed support to his son's family.

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The plan was that Diana's boys

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would walk behind the coffin with Charles Spencer.

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There was no plan for the Duke of Edinburgh to do so.

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But Prince William wasn't sure - he was a young boy -

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that he was comfortable with doing that.

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But Prince Philip encouraged him, he said, "I think in years to come,

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"you will be pleased that you did walk behind your mother's coffin."

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And still Prince William persisted in not being sure about it

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and Prince Philip said, "Well, if I walk too, will that help?"

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There is a very touching moment, if you look at the film,

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where they go through an arch in Horse Guards Parade

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and when they, for a brief moment,

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are not fully visible to the crowd.

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And at that moment,

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Prince Philip leant forward and...

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touched the boys to reassure them, to strengthen them at that moment.

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I think you saw him at his best at that moment.

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That was him being...

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the father of the family,

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holding them and supporting them.

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Through several periods of instability in the monarchy in recent times,

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one thing has remained rock solid -

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the Duke's marriage to the Queen.

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I would never dream of commenting on anybody else's marriage!

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But I have seen them in a boat,

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I've seen them on flight decks together,

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I've seen them on those quiet moments -

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the rest periods in the middle of an engagement.

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They pull each other's leg.

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Er, they tell each other off.

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Er, you know, they just look a regular couple

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who clearly know each other terribly well.

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A few years ago, I attended the Royal Variety Performance

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with the Queen and Duke of Edinburgh and, during the interval,

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we went into one of the reception areas where the Queen, being the Queen, was the centre of attention.

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And when the Queen is the centre of attention,

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Prince Philip keeps out of the way, he ensures people can see the Queen.

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I stood with Prince Philip at the edge of this room, he had a glass in his hand,

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and the Queen was there, surrounded by a whole crowd of show-business personalities.

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And I noticed across the crowded room that she looked up and caught his eye

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and as he caught her eye, he simply raised his glass to her.

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And I thought, "Yeah. Something's being going on here for 60 years that we probably can't get at."

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Seems all right.

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-It's all right, isn't it?

-Yes.

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When you were thinking about your role,

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-you saw your first duty, first and foremost, to support the Queen?

-Yes.

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-That's the right way to describe it?

-Yes.

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And what does that involve?

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Helping her! I mean, er, supporting her,

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doing anything that, er, is valuable to her.

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In 1997, the Queen herself

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acknowledged the support the Duke had provided over their lifetime.

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All too often, I fear Prince Philip has had to listen to me speaking.

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Frequently, we have discussed my intended speech beforehand

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and as you will imagine,

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his views have been expressed in a forthright manner.

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He is someone who doesn't take easily to compliments,

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but he has quite simply been my strength and stay all these years.

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Together, the Queen and the Duke

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have undertaken many thousands of engagements

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within the United Kingdom and overseas.

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So far, they've completed over 300 visits to every corner of the globe.

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But there is a sense that, at the age of 90,

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he might like to relinquish some of his official duties.

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I reckon I've done my bit. I want to enjoy myself a bit now...

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um, with less responsibility,

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less frantic rushing about,

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less preparation, less trying to think of something to say.

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On top of that...memory's going, I can't remember names and things.

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Yes, I'm just sort of winding down.

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-Are you?

-Yes.

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Taking on less...less duties, that kind of thing?

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I'm not taking on less, I'm getting rid of things.

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Quite, er, consciously, quite deliberately,

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he is getting rid of a lot of his patronages, he is giving up

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the Chancellorship of Cambridge

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and of Edinburgh,

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two major universities,

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and of a number of other charities

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that have taken up quite a lot of his time.

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A recognition that, quite frankly, the time's come.

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And it's being done in an ordered fashion

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so that succession can be properly thought through

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and his departure can be properly managed.

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And yet in 2011, the Duke shows little sign that he is letting up.

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In the spring, the Duke was at Westminster Abbey,

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reading the lesson at the Maundy service.

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"Then the righteous will reply,'

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"Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry and fed you?

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"Or thirsty and gave you drink?

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"A stranger and took you home?

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"Or naked and clothed you?

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"When did we see you ill or in prison and came to visit you?

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"And the King will answer, 'I tell you this.

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"'Anything you did for one of my brothers here, however humble,

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"'you did for me.'"

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A week later, he was celebrating his grandson's wedding.

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Then came the historic visit to Ireland with the Queen.

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Straight after, the Queen and the Duke

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welcomed President Obama and his wife to Buckingham Palace.

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He keeps on saying he's trying to slow down and take on less,

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but I-I haven't...I haven't seen much evidence of that,

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he seems to fill the...fill the, um,

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the gaps with lots of other things, which is fantastic.

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And the fact that he's still got that fascination

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and interest and energy is superb.

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I followed your schedule a little bit

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and it strikes me you do an awful lot, but that's...

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Well, you should have been around a few years ago.

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But I don't think... you don't really want

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nonagenarians as the heads of, er, organisations, you know,

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which are trying to do something useful.

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There is an ageism in this country, everywhere, and quite rightly too,

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because I think you go downhill physically, mentally and everything.

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But I don't think any of the charities that I have spoken to

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that have your involvement would ever describe you as past your sell-by date.

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No, but it's better to get out before you reach the sell-by date.

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After months of trying to work out who the Duke actually is

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and then interviewing him - not an entirely easy ride, may I say -

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I can understand why people see him in turns as reactionary, modern,

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charming, bad-tempered,

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thoughtful, funny

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and more than a little impatient.

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But he is not a man who is going to dwell on these apparent contradictions.

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It seems to me, from an early age,

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the Duke learnt the vital skill of self-reliance

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and the ability to get on with the job in hand.

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Asking him to talk about himself

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is like a red rag to a bull.

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He represents a generation, almost gone now,

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which doesn't moan about what might have been,

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but concentrates on what can be done now.

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And despite all he has achieved,

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he is, I think, genuinely bewildered by all the interest in him.

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"I'm 90," he says, "so what?"

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