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BBC's Tim Whewell joined them on one of their trips to promote peace. You | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
may find some of the events described in this programme | :00:00. | :00:09. | |
upsetting. It is a country locked into a cycle of revenge. The scene | :00:10. | :00:14. | |
of mass ethnic and religious cleansing. Where only killers are in | :00:15. | :00:27. | |
charge. TRANSLATION: In the Central African Republic, thousands have | :00:28. | :00:30. | |
seen their relatives slaughtered in front of them. While the world takes | :00:31. | :00:40. | |
little notice, but two brave men from opposite sides of the divide | :00:41. | :00:47. | |
our best friends. They are off on a journey to dam the flood of hate. | :00:48. | :00:53. | |
They are taught it is a war of religion, but we reject that. And I | :00:54. | :00:56. | |
am going with them. In the Central African Republic | :00:57. | :01:27. | |
today, it is not safe to be Muslim. Here, in this remote town in the | :01:28. | :01:31. | |
west of the country, thousands of desperate people have been camped | :01:32. | :01:35. | |
out for weeks at a small and muddy compound. They have lost their | :01:36. | :01:39. | |
homes, and almost all of their possessions. Many have lost family | :01:40. | :01:44. | |
and friends, murdered in cold blood, by a savage militia. All because of | :01:45. | :01:54. | |
their faith. This man, now an orphan, watched the killers go from | :01:55. | :01:58. | |
door to door, hunting for Muslims like him. | :01:59. | :02:52. | |
Some have walked and run here for day after day through the forest | :02:53. | :02:55. | |
from other towns and villages, pursued like animals by the militia. | :02:56. | :03:33. | |
Now they want to leave this predominantly Christian country | :03:34. | :03:38. | |
where they will largely accepted until a few months ago. `` where | :03:39. | :03:44. | |
they were largely accepted. They will follow other Muslims who have | :03:45. | :03:49. | |
already fled to neighbouring refugee camps in neighbouring states. This | :03:50. | :03:52. | |
is a tragedy the outside world is barely aware of, ethnic and | :03:53. | :03:56. | |
religious cleansing on a massive scale. These are the only remaining | :03:57. | :04:00. | |
the Slims for hundreds of kilometres around. These gates and troops are | :04:01. | :04:03. | |
all that is protecting them from likely death. `` Muslims. There are | :04:04. | :04:09. | |
not enough foreign peacekeepers to make much of a difference. The | :04:10. | :04:14. | |
Muslims main protector is the Catholic Church. It owns the | :04:15. | :04:21. | |
compound. Kristian is sheltering Muslims may seem surprisingly in the | :04:22. | :04:25. | |
midst of what looks at first sight like a religious conflict. `` | :04:26. | :04:34. | |
Christians. In the capital, the country 's Archbishop remembers | :04:35. | :04:39. | |
how, until recently, the two faiths mixed and intermarriage. | :04:40. | :04:44. | |
TRANSLATION: When I was a child I went to school with Muslims, we | :04:45. | :04:47. | |
played together, run around together, and we would give each | :04:48. | :04:59. | |
other presents. Meanwhile, across the country, there are also tens of | :05:00. | :05:02. | |
thousands of questions who fled attacks by Muslims. The Archbishop | :05:03. | :05:09. | |
believes that the two communities can be reunited. So does the country | :05:10. | :05:19. | |
's chief Imam. Despite the conflict, he is one of the Archbishop 's | :05:20. | :05:27. | |
closest friends. TRANSLATION: He is a simple man, calm, profound, that | :05:28. | :05:34. | |
is his strength. We complement one another. Some call us the | :05:35. | :05:44. | |
inseparable is, and others, the twins. The imams own story mirrors | :05:45. | :05:52. | |
the countries tragedy. He is forced to live for his own safety as a | :05:53. | :05:58. | |
guest of the Archbishop. He fled for his life from his own house, now | :05:59. | :06:03. | |
looted and destroyed in the anti` Muslim violence, and yet himself, he | :06:04. | :06:10. | |
is from it questions and in. `` a Christian family. I converted to | :06:11. | :06:14. | |
Islam, I have Christian parents and Muslim relatives. Today there are no | :06:15. | :06:21. | |
tribes in the Central African Republic who do not have at least | :06:22. | :06:30. | |
one Muslim. Over the last year they have travelled ceaselessly | :06:31. | :06:32. | |
together, using their friendship to show that this is not a religious | :06:33. | :06:41. | |
conflict. Today, they are heading off on another journey far into the | :06:42. | :06:45. | |
interior of the country, two regions still being cleansed of Muslims, to | :06:46. | :06:55. | |
try to stop the genocide. It will be dangerous. We have a military escort | :06:56. | :07:00. | |
to protect us. They have also got their faith. It is a difficult task, | :07:01. | :07:08. | |
but nothing is impossible for God. We are men of God and we trust in | :07:09. | :07:12. | |
him. That is why we are going to meet our brothers and sisters and | :07:13. | :07:15. | |
tried to fight this. `` try. It will not be easy. The Central | :07:16. | :07:40. | |
African Republic is one of the world 's poorest countries. Its French | :07:41. | :07:45. | |
colonisers left some with a taste for Gatto, but there is little | :07:46. | :07:52. | |
infrastructure here. Now, no real authority at all. Only the French | :07:53. | :08:02. | |
African peacekeepers when a coup last year unleashed unprecedented | :08:03. | :08:06. | |
violence, involving both Muslims, 15% of the population, and | :08:07. | :08:10. | |
Christians, the overwhelming majority. Over the last two months, | :08:11. | :08:15. | |
two murderous militias have rampaged down this road. Burning, looting, | :08:16. | :08:22. | |
killing, often at random. First, the mainly Muslim Seliger, and then the | :08:23. | :08:31. | |
mainly Christian group, their crimes are now destroying this country. The | :08:32. | :08:37. | |
rebels are now defeated and confined to barracks in the capital. They are | :08:38. | :08:43. | |
still fighting elsewhere. A year ago, they formed the country 's | :08:44. | :08:48. | |
first Muslim left government `` led. To the marmot rose sorrow, some | :08:49. | :08:57. | |
of them took part in the atrocities. TRANSLATION: 's a mercenary, not in | :08:58. | :09:06. | |
his home ground, only gets riches to steal. He cannot go home without | :09:07. | :09:15. | |
loot. `` Imam's. In this way, the mercenaries led an example which the | :09:16. | :09:18. | |
local Muslims followed. These are some of the young men who have sent | :09:19. | :09:26. | |
them packing. Today, of course, they are fooling around with one | :09:27. | :09:31. | |
another. But, they have killed plenty of Muslims are real. | :09:32. | :09:34. | |
Although, they call it offends against foreigners. `` defence. | :09:35. | :10:15. | |
They are armed, not only with the weapons that you see, but with guns | :10:16. | :10:23. | |
they are hiding. These charms, they believe, protect them from the | :10:24. | :10:28. | |
Seleka. Today, the effect of fear and cannabis is adding to the | :10:29. | :10:34. | |
swagger. Beneath the hard faces, they have suffered as well. | :10:35. | :11:19. | |
You can tell the anti`balaka have been here. This is the third village | :11:20. | :11:26. | |
we have passed on a fairly short stretch of road which has been | :11:27. | :11:30. | |
almost completely burned. The countryside around here, for miles | :11:31. | :11:33. | |
and miles, has been completely emptied of Muslims. TRANSLATION: | :11:34. | :11:41. | |
Whenever we seem Muslims, they become like savage walls. But, they | :11:42. | :11:46. | |
are walls goaded on by some of the country 's former question leaders. | :11:47. | :11:53. | |
TRANSLATION: The people in power organised a campaign against | :11:54. | :11:57. | |
Muslims. They spoke to the majority and said, look, they are enemies. | :11:58. | :12:07. | |
Our enemies on the Slims. `` are Muslims. Those politicians are using | :12:08. | :12:18. | |
3`2 try to regain power. `` anti`balaka in order to regain | :12:19. | :12:23. | |
power. They gave them money, and told them to go for it. It is a war | :12:24. | :12:38. | |
for religion. They need to change that. To stop the killing, you have | :12:39. | :12:47. | |
to talk to the killers. Bravely, Imam is buttonholing a group of | :12:48. | :12:51. | |
anti`balaka fighters by the side of the road. There is protection | :12:52. | :12:59. | |
nearby. It is still a tense moment. They hate the Slims. `` Muslims. The | :13:00. | :13:09. | |
Imam wants the young man to leave the militia. But, he will not. He | :13:10. | :13:14. | |
does not want to lose the income from this home`made checkpoint that | :13:15. | :13:18. | |
he and his friends put up, where all travellers are forced to pay. | :13:19. | :13:31. | |
That is not what the Archbishop wanted to hear. They have left what | :13:32. | :13:43. | |
they should be doing. Farming, hunting, fishing, just to stand by | :13:44. | :13:48. | |
the road and extort money from people. We have to stop that. For | :13:49. | :13:55. | |
now there is an icky wherever we go. At our next stop, thousands of | :13:56. | :14:01. | |
Christians are sheltering around the cathedral. They have been here for | :14:02. | :14:06. | |
months, since they fled the Seleka forces. The Imam and the Archbishop | :14:07. | :14:17. | |
want them to go home, for normal life to resume. But that is | :14:18. | :14:30. | |
impossible according to Pauline Kosem. Her life changed a few months | :14:31. | :14:39. | |
ago for ever. She sent her son on an errand, and he never returned. | :14:40. | :15:10. | |
That random killing left four children fatherless. The Archbishop | :15:11. | :15:19. | |
loses her, she can't go home. `` blesses. She takes us to see why. | :15:20. | :15:28. | |
The Seleka burnt it, and left nothing. It is the first time she | :15:29. | :15:45. | |
has been back. Behind, what is left of her son 's house. | :15:46. | :16:05. | |
It is too much for her grandson, Frankland. `` Franklin. | :16:06. | :16:21. | |
In fact, he tells us later, he is going back to the anti`Balaka | :16:22. | :16:28. | |
tomorrow to join other young Christian men from here. No wonder | :16:29. | :16:38. | |
the Archbishop and the Imam, meeting the few remaining Muslims, are | :16:39. | :16:41. | |
finding it hard to persuade them to stay. The Archbishop says that if | :16:42. | :16:52. | |
they flee to Chad, as many already have, there will be no chance of | :16:53. | :16:57. | |
rebuilding a mixed society. They do not trust him. | :16:58. | :17:09. | |
It's another setback on the road towards reconciliation. TRANSLATION: | :17:10. | :17:19. | |
We went to the Muslim community. It is as though we are being rejected. | :17:20. | :17:24. | |
As though they were shutting themselves up. They are in the | :17:25. | :17:30. | |
mindset where all they wanted to do was leave the country and no longer | :17:31. | :17:35. | |
consider themselves central Africans. Back on the road, another | :17:36. | :17:49. | |
long, rutted road, he regains his spirits. So does the Imam, and the | :17:50. | :18:08. | |
leader of the country's Protestants, who has joined us. This | :18:09. | :18:12. | |
car is a bubble of harmony, travelling through a landscape of | :18:13. | :18:17. | |
hate. The example that these men set is remarkable. But even so, I am not | :18:18. | :18:23. | |
sure how far people are convinced by their message. Does the Imam ever | :18:24. | :18:47. | |
worry he will be the last Imam, perhaps the last Muslim, in this | :18:48. | :18:53. | |
country? TRANSLATION: I don't think I would be the last Imam in Central | :18:54. | :18:56. | |
African Republic. There are plenty of other Imams in the country. As | :18:57. | :19:09. | |
proof, they tell me about a village of Muslim herders, who are protected | :19:10. | :19:15. | |
I there Christian neighbours. They have been gradually spreading here | :19:16. | :19:19. | |
for generations from the edge of the Sahara. This is one of the few | :19:20. | :19:23. | |
places around here where the Koran is still being taught. But it turns | :19:24. | :19:32. | |
out they now live in constant fear. Not so much protected, as held | :19:33. | :19:35. | |
prisoner. Further on, we find cattle that used | :19:36. | :20:19. | |
to belong to the pearl. These are their owners now. Anti`Balaka | :20:20. | :20:26. | |
fighters. They have taken Muslim women as well. | :20:27. | :20:41. | |
`` Peul. Meanwhile, the Archbishop and are Imam have moved on to the | :20:42. | :21:04. | |
next town. Bozoum. As ever, they are locked in a meeting, talking and | :21:05. | :21:10. | |
listening. But this is not a place sympathetic to Muslims. TRANSLATION: | :21:11. | :21:16. | |
The consequences will be economic. A price of food will shoot up, that is | :21:17. | :21:22. | |
because the majority of Muslims are either shopkeepers or cattle | :21:23. | :21:27. | |
herders. There is already problems here. With meat, there is very | :21:28. | :21:43. | |
little of it available. He is right. At the market, you are plenty of | :21:44. | :21:47. | |
vegetables, grown by Christian farmers. `` there are plenty of | :21:48. | :21:56. | |
vegetables, grown by Christian farmers. But the meat section is | :21:57. | :22:09. | |
almost there. `` bare. This man is one of only two Muslim men left in | :22:10. | :22:17. | |
Bozoum, where there were once thousands. He is allowed to stay | :22:18. | :22:22. | |
because few others have his skill. Outside his home, anti`Balaka | :22:23. | :22:27. | |
fighters watch his every move. He is too scared to talk openly about what | :22:28. | :22:32. | |
has happened here. But he can't hide his misery. | :22:33. | :23:02. | |
His wife will never forget the day when all the other Muslims left, | :23:03. | :23:10. | |
following the retreating Seleka forces out of the country. | :23:11. | :23:42. | |
The Archbishop and the Imam have reached the end of their journey. | :23:43. | :23:52. | |
Their pleas for reconciliation have fallen hardly the Mac largely on | :23:53. | :23:55. | |
stony ground, but they are not giving up. TRANSLATION: It is the | :23:56. | :24:07. | |
old story of the man who said to his fiancee, I come to you and you | :24:08. | :24:10. | |
refuse me, so I will keep coming back until you declare your love for | :24:11. | :24:17. | |
me. TRANSLATION: The country is in great danger. We have to try and use | :24:18. | :24:22. | |
all means possible to avoid the country ending up in war which is | :24:23. | :24:24. | |
tribal, religious, ethnic, and regional. They are heading back to | :24:25. | :24:36. | |
the capital and then abroad, to urge western leaders to send more | :24:37. | :24:47. | |
peacekeepers before it is too late. But perhaps it already is. The | :24:48. | :24:56. | |
thousand Muslims who were sheltering around this church are now gone. | :24:57. | :25:02. | |
They have evacuated to neighbouring Canberra. In the western half of the | :25:03. | :25:09. | |
country, there is hardly anyone left to save anything. `` Cameroon. Back | :25:10. | :25:24. | |
in Bangui, I find the tail end of the Exodus. Some of the capital's | :25:25. | :25:28. | |
last Muslims leaving the country in any vehicle they can find. Ethnic | :25:29. | :25:36. | |
cleansing is almost complete. And still the world looks the other way. | :25:37. | :26:21. | |
Hello there. A lot of sporting action happening this weekend. It is | :26:22. | :26:22. |