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may find distressing.

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HAUNTING MUSIC THROUGHOUT.

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We didn't believe that we would be

killed because there are so many

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people and I couldn't believe they

could kill all of us.

Srebrenica,

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the setting for Europe's worst

atrocity since World War Two.

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Gunfire.

In July 1995, Bosnian Serbs

soldiers are sick of thousands of

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unarmed Muslim men and boys here. --

massacred. A small number of

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survivors have since returned.

I had

nightmares. And I didn't... Ever get

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rid off. Returning here and is

living here maybe it is therapy for

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me.

But the genocide verdicts of the

International Court are being

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questioned by local politicians and

the town's new mayor, even here in

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the very place where ethnic

cleansing happened.

Inflation

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-- the genocide didn't happen, that

his officials.

This man now finds

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his incredible story of survival of

his community's re- identity, a

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matter of dispute.

Almost 20 years I

was violent. Later, I realised that

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we have to struggle for the truth,

for our lives.

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He returned to Srebrenica ten years

ago. He and his wife are bringing up

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their three daughters here. It is

the Serb run entity within

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Bosnia-Herzegovina that was formally

recognised after the war but with

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some Bosnian Muslims or Bosnia Acts

believed entrenched Muslim cleansing

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-- ethnic cleansing. He is one of

only six men and boys who survived

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being rounded up, taken to mass

execution sites, and shot in July

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1995, 8000 did not.

I had something

inside me to come here, to show them

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that I survived. Maybe it is the

best answer to all of those who

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denied the genocide and it is a

revenge.

His decision to live here

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is cathartic and political. Aimed at

those who wanted Muslims are raised

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from here. He says it is

increasingly difficult.

Life here is

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not easy. Today we fight for

justice. It isn't finished. Without

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justice, there is no reconciliation.

It is an illusion. I am worried

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because of this course and

everywhere you have propaganda and

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because of that my wife just wants

to leave Srebrenica.

There are

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different realities here, many

Bosnian Serbs see men deemed Walker

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and also as he arose when the

political second in command from the

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war days was released from prison,

he was fated. One person's

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nationalism is another's rightful

pride in the country and with

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international eyes focused

elsewhere, Bosnians fear the tide is

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turning. In a recent referendum,

Bosnian Serbs voted overwhelmingly

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for the annual National Day, which

the country's court had ruled

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illegal, and Bosnian Serb

politicians from the President down

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don't accept international court

verdicts concerning Srebrenica.

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22 years ago, Srebrenica was a place

of fear. With Bosnian Serbs, Croats

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and Muslims killing each other

across the region, the UN had

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declared the town of safe haven back

in 1993 and thousands of Bosnian

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civilians flocked there. In among

them young men. The siege by the

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Bosnian Serbs, abandoned by the UN

in July 19 99. Agreeing to transport

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the refugees to safety, Bosnian Serb

forces captured the town. The woman

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and her mother with the other women

and children and were bussed out,

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the Bosnian Serb planned to kill the

Muslim men and boys was under way.

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Have you watched those pictures, to

your room but the feeling?

Yes.

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Everything. It is... Painful to

remember this. But it is part of

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life. Passed. Our past.

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The head of the killings, the leader

of the Bosnian Serb forces general

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Ratko Mladic had a great play of

promising civilians safe passage. He

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is now facing genocide charges at

his trial in The Hague.

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The killing of Srebrenica's Muslims

has been judged genocide by the war

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crimes tribunal in The Hague. The UN

definition is the intent to destroy

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a group of people raced on

nationality, race, ethnicity or

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religion.

It was systematic killing,

organised killing, and it was

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organised by, from a higher level,

to achieve all of that you need so

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many resources, so many trucks, so

many buses, so many et cetera.

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The scars of war are still evident

in Srebrenica today. This was

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probably Muslim town but many who

survived those times chose not to

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come back to a place international

community had agreed would be part

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of the Bosnian Serb entity. There is

a feeling of emptiness, of once

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thriving industries that never

recovered. Economically depressed,

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life here is hard, any geek out a

living in a way that has changed

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little over centuries. Last year,

the town collected a new mayor who

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has promised economic development.

It is the first time as Serb has

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filled the role since the war. His

views on the Srebrenica massacre

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have caused alarm among Srebrenica

who have returned.

For me it isn't a

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problem to have a mayor who is a

Serb, it is no problem, we are

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looking for more tolerance. He is a

guy who denies all past, denies the

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genocide.

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The Balkans have always been a

powderkeg and is now the agreements

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that brought about the end of the

war are looking ever more fragile.

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There is increasing talk of them

breaking away from the rest of

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Bosnia which would leave the

entities Bosnian Muslims living in a

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potentially hostile country. The

republic's resident unveiled a

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university dormitory in honour of

the former president just a few days

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before The Hague war crimes in a

reform found him guilty of genocide.

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The mayor of the city is from the

same party as him. Do you believe he

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is a hero?

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Do you accept the judgement of the

International Court that genocide

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happened in Srebrenica?

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He took a journey he did back in

1995 then as a prisoner, crammed

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into a truck with dozens of others,

their hands tied behind their backs.

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That is the place where the mass

execution took place. It was night

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and they were shooting and firing

outside. You could see the lines,

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rows and rows of dead waddies. I

knew it was the end, really, in that

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moment. They asked us to lay down

and it is thought of my mother, she

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would never know where I ended up.

How I finished. Then they started

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firing and I was dying. I could just

hear moans. Moans of other people

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who were wounded. It was so painful.

I just prayed not to die. And then I

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noticed someone was moving in front

of me. That cost him are you alive?

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He said yes, I am alive. That's

enough. I can show you something

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else. Maybe security could come.

We

get asked a lot of him, the horror

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playing out in his head as he

described escaping with the other

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survive. While the soldiers went to

collect more prisoners to kill.

I

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was crawling, crawling over the dead

bodies. The Broken Head is, it

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was...

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He was badly wounded and in terrible

pain. The other man encouraged the

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teenager to keep crawling. As day

broke and they climbed through the

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forest, the full-scale and planning

behind the massacre became apparent.

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They were collecting the dead bodies

and they would put that on the

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trucks, the trucks, don't you

remember now, and the tractors were

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going somewhere, I don't remember

where, probably to mass graves.

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After the war, the international

effort to find and identify the

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missing thousands began. Among the

dead, his father and uncle.

I know

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from my uncle that his remains were

found in four mass graves. They

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wanted to hide it and excavated them

and rebury them again. Because they

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were dead they broke their bodies.

I

wondered whether people living

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around the site now would know what

happened there.

Many of them

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probably, the talk, they don't want

anything about it. Why not? They

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have fear of their lives.

If they

talked about what happened here?

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Yep, of course.

Fear of their lives

from true?

From those who committed

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the crime and who, who supported the

crime and who approved the crime.

Do

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some of them still live around here?

Yes, of course.

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Each gravestone in the vast oral to

the genocide victims has the same

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year of death, 1995. It has been

painstakingly slow. Every year on

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the July anniversary, more people

are buried. Sometimes a bone

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fragment is all that is identified.

The international court in The Hague

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has said six are guilty. One is

awaiting judgement. Silia testified

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against him and others. In a grave,

many of her family lie at rest.

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A few miles from Srebrenica, as the

primary school day begins, it has

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become politicised. These children

are being educated separately from

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their peers. Their parents set up up

their own Islamic school. They

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claimed they were forced to do so

because in subjects from history to

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geography to literature, even what

the language is called, their

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heritage was being excluded.

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Do you believe that this is a

deliberate decision by the

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politicians, the people, the

officials running the education

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system, to make you feel unwelcome?

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This man's daughters are still too

young for these issues to apply. But

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with politicians ramping up the

rhetoric against their rivals, he

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worries what they will be caught in

future if they stay in the Republic.

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Srebrenica's municipal assembly now

has more Serb councillors than

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Muslim. In the opposition, a Serb

who has been in politics since the

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war days. He is the local president,

and also the town's secretary

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councillor. If people would

recognise and called it a genocide,

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reconciliation could happen. Because

that is not happening, it is

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impossible. Do you think it was a

genocide? And what do you think

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about that viewpoint?

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Blaming international meddling for

the possible breakup of

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Bosnia-Herzegovina is tried and

tested political discourse here. The

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president regularly threatens a

referendum on secession. Would you

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like to see the republic move away?

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Before the war Serbs made up just

half the population. Now, the

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republic is 80% Serb. After the war,

efforts were made. They live in a

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block for people with special needs.

She would like to leave.

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Nadzad's surviving

family never understood

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his need to go back

and live in Srebenica.

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I remember the words

of my mother as well.

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You want to go to Srebenica?

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If you leave, who

will be the winner?

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In that case, I think...

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In that case, the genocide

would fade off.

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Those who committed such

horror, they would win.

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Nedzad believes the scale

of the crimes cannot be compared.

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But Serbs also lost their lives

in the war and there are memorials

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to the 3,000 Serb

soldiers and civilians

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killed across this

area over three years.

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Most people we spoke to -

whether Serb or Bosniak -

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were keen to try to forget the past

and look to the future.

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But, for 22 years, Nedzad has

lived with a burden.

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The memory of the 8000 souls

who didn't have his luck.

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The burden of being

a survivor of genocide.

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If we had a normal

country, I can say that

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hatred, that nationalistic

conversation, can take us to the war

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and the killing.

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Very often, I ask myself where

we are going now because I fear very

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bad things in Europe.

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Nedzad's man concern

is closer to home.

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Those who had their hands bloody,

if they come one day and ask for

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forgiveness, I think it wouldn't

be a problem for us...

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To extend our hands.

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To extend our hands.

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Do you think they ever will?

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True reconciliation looks perhaps

almost as far off as ever,

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particularly with genocide being

denied in the very place where it's

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judged to have happened.

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In the end, only the living can

have a say on whether a country

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built on bloodshed will truly wash

away the emnities of war.

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