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health emergency. It might have claimed a life. It took him to die

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to get it diagnosed. It's reignited an old argument - single vaccines or

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triple MMR? I wouldn't want to give it to her knowing something could

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happen. Tonight, we ask could the epidemic have been prevented.

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were lulled into a false sense of security by the absence of measles

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over many years. You failed? I think we have done a huge amount.

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enough? We go inside a vaccination clinic being investigated by medical

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authorities. This is about business. It is not about public health?

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it is not about business. What stops us opening up in Swansea? That will

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Britain's worst measles epidemics and it started so simply. It began

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in early November. We had three cases of measles in three distinct

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family groups who had no knowledge of each other or any contact with

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each other here in Wales. Except they had been to the same holiday

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resort in the South West of England. Measles has been a ticking time bomb

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and for years, more than 70,000 children in Wales have been left

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exposed to this potentially deadly disease because of a row which

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erupted before many of them were even born. Parents were left

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confused about the safety of the MMR vaccine and that's resulted in a

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public health emergency which is still spreading and is showing

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little sign of slowing down. minutes, that is enough to give you

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the infection if you have not been vaccinated. When Laura Berry caught

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it last month, her family feared the worst. They were frightened that she

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wouldn't survive. To be honest, I thought it was life and death for

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Laura. That is how frightened I was. She used to say, "Oh, mam. I don't

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know whetherly be here the next day." It is hurtful to hear her

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saying that. It felt horrible and I felt fainty. I couldn't get out of

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bed because I was weak. I was boiling hot. I felt claustrophobic.

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It was really horrible. 13-year-old Laura, like around 6,000 other local

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children, hadn't had the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine. A decade

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ago, Kay had read stories about possible links to autism. I have

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five children. The other four have had the MMR. At the time, I didn't

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think it was safe for me to have Laura done. I'm really sorry now.

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Nearly 40 pupils at Laura's school have also had measles, an ordeal for

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them and their families. I was crying with her sometimes. Her eyes

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as well, she couldn't open her eyes because her eyes were puffy, really

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bad and sore. Her stomach was worse than anything. There were bad pains

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in her belly as well. This is the worst illness I have seen on Laura.

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A handful of cases in November rapidly turned into an epidemic,

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when hundreds became infected in neath and Port Talbot. MMR jabs are

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being offered in hospitals and schools to help contain the spread.

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Good afternoon, can I help you? Every new measles case is reported

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to Public Health Wales. Could you check? Lots of the younger

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generations have forgotten how serious this used to be, before we

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had the vaccine, 100 people would die every year. It does have serious

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consequences. 120% will get complications, whether that is

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middle ear infection, pneumonias, more rarely encephalitis. It is

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highly infectious. It is one of the most infectious viruses we have.

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the outbreak turned into an epidemic, doctors predicted someone

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would die. Events in Wales have been drawing attention from around the

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world. This is a topic that's of great interest to us. Around the

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country, there are more figures showing there are some low

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vaccination rates in Australia, so the example of Wales is a good

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indication of what might happen in Australia over the next few years.

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MMR boosters aren't normally given until children are about to start

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nursery. But now many parents are afraid to wait. He is not due until

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he is three. They said come down today to get them done to be on the

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safe side. But the biggest target, and one of the most vulnerable

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groups, are teenagers. Here at the epicentre of the outbreak in

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Swansea, there are still plenty of parents who are concerned about how

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best to protect their children. And that has created a business

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opportunity for private clinics who are selling single vaccinations.

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They say they are offering a choice to parents despite the warnings from

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public health experts. One clinic in particular is causing concern. This

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is one of its clinics, in Manchester. It's busy offering

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single measles vaccinations against NHS advice. This mum has travelled

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145 miles to get her daughter injected. That's better, isn't it? I

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think the MMR is too much for a baby. And I wouldn't want to give it

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to her knowing that something could happen. Everybody's realised with

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the outbreak of the measles in Swansea, it's prompted people to

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come for the boosters and also for the first immunisation of rubella or

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measles. They are choosing to pay �110 for the single measles vaccine.

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The MMR is free on the NHS and it is more effective according to public

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health officials. I know people, they swear blind it is because of

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the MMR jab. It is only since they have had the MMR jab that they have

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had problems. I'm not prepared to take any chances with my kid's

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health. They are worried because it was from 12-month-old and it is

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three live vaccines in one. Most of the patients who come to us have got

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allergies, eczema, which then shows they have a low immune system.

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Public health officials advise against single jabs, but the company

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is heading to Swansea. We want to help out in Swansea. We are going to

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do a relief clinic within the next two weeks to help with the measles

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outbreak. But Public Health Wales says there is no need. Do parents

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still have the right to choose? Having developed a vaccine, which is

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just as effective as the singles used to be, and now available in

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one, I would like to think parents can accept that that is the right

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thing for their child. Two injections instead of six and longer

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protection against the three viruses. Sometimes, it doesn't make

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sense to offer - choice doesn't make sense because it is neither good

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medicine and it is more painful. It is difficult, isn't it? This is an

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epidemic that should never have happened. Measles is preventible.

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For 15 years, health officials have known that the number of children

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who have received the MMR vaccine is dangerously low. In some areas, one

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in four have been left unprotected. And they have been called "the

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Wakefield generation". Judgment day for Dr Andrew Wakefield who

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triggered one of the biggest health scares in a generation. A maverick

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whose reputation now lies in tat tatters. In 1998 he published

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research linking the MMR vaccine to autism and bowel problems in

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children. He's since been struck off. The allegations against me and

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against my colleagues are both unfounded and unjust. The GMC said

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he had shown a callous disregard for the children he treated, was

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dishonest in his research methods, abused his position as a doctor and

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was irresponsible. But the doubts created by that

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flawed research still linger. Swansea mum Natalie Bamford helped

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lead a high-profile campaign questioning the safety of the MMR in

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the late' 90s. This all began for me when my first son turned one and the

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press started reporting on the safety of MMR. At the time, it was

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like let's choose the lesser of the two evils, let's go down the single

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vaccine route. That is what I chose to do. Natalie turned to her local

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newspaper for help to find like-minded parents who wanted

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single vaccines. She was overwhelmed by the response. That weekend, the

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Express or the Mail came out with a huge double spread on the unsafety

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of the MMR. The Evening Post printed my story on the Monday. And oh my

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God, it just, instead of ten people, I got 1,800 people. My phone was off

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the hook. Parents struggled to find private clinics offering single

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vaccines so Natalie and another mum from Worcester set one up

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themselves. To the media, this was a fantastic story. What was it to the

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mums? Terrifying! We didn't know where to turn. We didn't know what

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to believe. You know what I mean? I can only imagine, you know, what we

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had to become mini scientists all of a sudden and try and figure out

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graphs and data that we didn't understand. In the Swansea, Neath

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and Port Talbot areas, the uptake of MMR since has remained low. The

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Evening Post says it was simply reporting local concerns. Was it

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ever your intention, when you got involved in the campaign, to stop

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children being inoculated? No. There was always choice. I have to put

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this question to you... I blame the door of Andrew Wakefield. He

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stopped, if people did nothing, then that was their choice. But the blame

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has got to be laid at the door of his agenda and what he was trying to

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get out of doing this. Do you accept any responsibility for this as well?

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You were involved in a very... don't accept any responsibility for

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this. I dealt with the problem. point is this: You were involved in

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a very visible campaign... choice. Saying this is, "We are very

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worried about this." The consequence of worry is sometimes fear. It

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propagates fear. Maybe that is what has happened in this community?

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never told anybody that you should not get vaccinated on this, but I

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told them if you are worried, like I am worried, like all the parents

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were worried, then we should go with the single vaccine until this is

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cleared up. Thousands have queued for emergency MMR jabs but there are

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thousands still out there who have yet to be protected. Since

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mid-November, measles has spread from the Abertawe Bro Morganwg

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Health Board area to Hywel Dda and Powys. Measles now exists in nearly

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every Health Board area. Today, there are just under 1,000 cases

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across Wales. Public Health Wales has warned that in measles

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outbreaks, one in 1,000 people can die. Last Thursday, the first

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suspected measles death was reported. This is something that has

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not been confirmed. We are working with the Coroner. Measles was one of

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many lines of enquiry that he will be under taking. Our lives will

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never be the same. We have lost such a big character. We loved him so

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much. Gareth Colfer Williams lived with

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Cairo and Dakota in Swansea. He had measles, but it wasn't diagnosed.

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took him to the surgery with a rash and everything, he could barely

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stand. He was so badly let down by the whole system. It wasn't as if he

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was in bed, had a rash, stayed in bed, didn't do anything about it. He

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tried. He tried. I tried. I took him out-of-hours. He phoned our GP. We

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went, we saw three GPs who told us was sent home from the surgery with

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paracetamol. She felt for a pulse and rang nine

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nine and they are telling her how to resuscitate him which she said

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was, you know, I wanted to touch him. I wanted to give him a cuddle.

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But we had to see him behind a screen because of everything. If he

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didn't die of measles, he had measles, you know, undiagnosed

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until, it took him to die to get it diagnosed. It is ridiculous.

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The ABM U health board says it will investigate any concerns raised by

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the coroner and it added in general measles is difficult to diagnose in

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its early stages because many symptoms are similar to other

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illnesses. Immunisation does not hurt.

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decades, vaccines helped stop the spread of disease. Immunisation

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against measles began in 1968 with single jabs, but these were

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replaced with the MMR 20 years later.

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Online, it is easy to find private clinics offering single jabs. They

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make clear there is nothing wrong with the triple vaccine.

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But one which set-up a clinic in a Swansea hotel last weekend, told

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parents they were offering a safer alternative. Parents were paying

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�50 a child to register with the Children's Immunisation Centre and

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�110 for the single measles vaccine. I don't know. I don't know the

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reasons why they give the combined rather than individual, but I would

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prefer to do it individually. I think they should give you a choice.

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REPORTER: You have had both of them done today? Yes, Louis had his

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booster and Theo started the course. These parents found the company

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online. There is a lot of parents having the three in one because

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they can't afford the single ones. They wouldn't have the three in one

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by option. They are having to have it because they can't afford the

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singles. Again, that's taken out of their hands.

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It is a huge overload on the immune system and I feel happier with

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having given the single vaccine today. We saw the queues for the

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MMR and we saw so many thousands of children are unprotected and

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measles can kill and measles will kill and that's why we're there to

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offer protection against the measles.

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REPORTER: To those people who would say this is a cynical business move

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to go into Swansea and other parts of the UK, this is really about

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business, it is not about public health? No. It is not about

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business at all. It is not. We operate the clinics as and where we

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operate them across the country. We're opening up more. We are going

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to open up in Newcastle so so what stops us opening up in Swansea?

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That's is going to be a permanent clinic.

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The company suggests an awe autism link to the MMR vaccine. What about

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Wakefield? Was he right? There was nothing proven that was his take on

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the combined. About well, he was struck off? Well, if parents want

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to read what was in the papers and they are worried, then they can

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make the decision. It is not helping the country as a whole, not

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having children vaccinated. No, there are clinics that offer

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single inoculations and what's your view of those? It is a business,

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isn't it for them? It is a business. I don't engage with them. I have no

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part in their regulation or their reporting. They exist. Are they

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playing on people's fears? You will always find, people can always make

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money money out of other people's miseries. There is no doubt they

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will come to Swansea because they will think, well, you can see, they

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want their children vaccinated, that's why they are queuing up at

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our clinic on a Saturday, 1,800. 20,000 teenagers only had the first

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part of their MMR jabs, which means they have a chance of catching

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measles. Sam has finished his first day after weeks away. The friends

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were wondering what was wrong with me. I told them what happened and

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they were shocked, really. It felt weird going back after a month

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learning again. Hundreds of his fellow pupils hadn't been

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vaccinated. It started hitting me when I was in school, the pain came

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on in my throat and eyes and I started getting dizziness. It came

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to the Saturday where I had an asthma attack, my mother said she

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found a rash behind my ear and I panicked a lot. I heard things from

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my friends which were like you could go blind and even in some

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cases you could die, of course. He was very scared and his

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breathing became uncontrollable. We had to call an ambulance and it was

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very frightening at the time. I was panicking a lot. But when the

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ambulance came and it slowly got better, but the measles, the pain

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was still there and it was getting worse. Sam's parents decided not to

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let him have the second MMR vaccination because he was ill

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after the first. Because of the very sear reaction

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he had a baby, we won't pick him up, he just cried constantly and it was

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an extremely awful time for us as parents.

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They say at that time, they were worried by Andrew Wakefield's

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research. Without his MMR booster, Sam wasn't properly protected. In

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parts of Wales, uptake for the second jab remains low, so

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shouldn't doctors have done more to tackle the issue? There has been

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more than a decade in which, you know, thousands of people have not

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been persuaded that they should have had their children... There

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are thousands, but there are still many thousands who haven't? Yes,

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you are right, I would wish that 40,000 had it.

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You failed? I think we have done, we did a huge amount. I think it

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was a hard... But not enough...It was a hard road back. Enough for me

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when it is at 95% and I want every child protected. 95% doesn't cut it

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for me because that means five children in 100 will go through

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life unprotected against measles, mumps, rubella. I think we have

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done a huge amount. There are many children out there

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who are who have not been inoculated? You are right and I

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think when measles are not circulating, when it is not a

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threat to your child, when your grandmother talks about we had it

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when we were little and we were fine. Sometimes it is hard to

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recognise that actually it is a threat to your child.

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The letter from school about the jab.

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Sam is having the MMR booster vaccination. I feel so guilty that

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he went through such a hard time having the measles, contracting the

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measles. And you know, I do feel guilty, but I still stand by my

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decision as parents that we made the right decision.

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To stop measles in its tracks, 95% of children and teenagers in Wales

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have to be vaccinated against it. Here in Powys, only 74% of

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teenagers have had all their jabs. Not surprising that this is an area

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where there is another outbreak of measles.

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A cluster of cases started emerging before Easter. Across the county,

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there are 75 cases. All three of Shirley Pake's children caught it.

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They had never been immunised. Nine-year-old Ryan is still

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recovering. My neck hurt. My throat hurt. Heavy

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headed. Not fine. Doctors are still trying to discover how the disease

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spread to this rural community.. know of about three, I think, other

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families that have had it. All three of them ended up in hospital,

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being checked out because of the complications that can arise from

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measles. When Shirley's eldest daughter

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caught measle, she took Ryan for his MMR, but it was too late, he

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caught the disease. She regrets listening to the scare stories

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years ago. I wish I did give them the MMR at

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the time because of seeing how sick they were. I could have avoided

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that, but yes, go and get your kids done.

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Powys has a poor record on MMR uptake among teenagers. One doctor

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admits he and others should have seen this outbreak coming.

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There is a sense of measles was not around and nobody was really,

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really pushing it as much as perhaps we should have done. It is

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not that we didn't have the information that these uptake rates

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were poor, but I think, perhaps, we need to hold our hands up and say

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we could have done more there. We were getting regular information

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about uptake rates and we were regularly informed the rates were

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not sufficient to guarantee protection against an outbreak.

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Why didn't you and your colleagues respond to that?

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I think we were, you know, perhaps lulled into a false sense of

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security by the absence of measles over many years. I think if we had

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had any minor outbreaks, I think we we would have been more acidious in

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persuading people to have the vaccine.

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Back in Swansea, the Children's Immunisation Centre persuaded

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parents it is offering a safer option. It claims its measles

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vaccine offers 97% protection after the first dose.

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Your website says single vaccines give a higher level of protection

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against measles, mumps, rubella than MMR? The single vaccines for

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the measles and the rubella offer a higher percentage cover than the

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combined. Especially after the first dose. Says who?Says the

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manufacturers guidelines. This is the manufacturers? Yes.And where

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has this been established in peer group science and where is the

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literature to back that up? From the manufacturer.

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The clinic said it couldn't provide us with the manufacturer's

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literature, but if stands by its claims.

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What do you make of that? There is no evidence for that. I have

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reviewed the literature, I haven't seen a single peer reviewed article

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which suggests that the single measles vaccine is better than the

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MMR vaccine. But they go further, they say on

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their website that their single MMR vaccination is the only safe way?

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They can say that, but I know that MMR has been used for 30 to 40

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years now. Millions of doses administered, it is a safe vaccine

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and if they say it, they say it, but it is not the only safe way.

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MMR is the best way. You get protection against measles, mumps,

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rubella, all of them effective. Single vaccines for mumps aren't

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available in the UK, which made us wonder how the clinic can offer a

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safer option to the MMR, we are not alone in wondering about their

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claims? I just think that some of the claims on there and some of the

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statements on those websites appear to be misleading and ambiguous and

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are a serious cause for concern. Today, the company removed its

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online claim about single vaccines being the only safe option. But

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still says its single jabs for measle and rubella offer higher

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protection than MMR. Its claims are being investigated by Public Health

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Wales and the medicines regulator, the HMRA. Fears are growing for

:27:39.:27:44.

over one million children in England who have not been vabg

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vaccinated. While here, doctors will examine how this outbreak has

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been handled. From past outbreaks, we have had

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lots of lessons to learn. We will be talking to parents, both of hoz

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who had the -- those who have had the vaccine and children who

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haven't to understand what more we could have done. What message would

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they have heard? What might have made the difference earlier.

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. In Swansea, Gareth Colfer Williams' family are preparing for

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his funeral. As they wait to find out what caused his death, they are

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taking legal advice and want an inquiry into his treatment.

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