Episode 2 Cats v Dogs: Which is Best?


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One question divides animal lovers like no other -

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which is best, a cat or a dog?

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Hmm. Most people tend to favour one or the other,

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so it can lead to some pretty heated arguments.

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So, we're going to pit our beloved pets against each other

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to try and settle the debate once and for all.

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Liz and I are going head-to-head too

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and I'm firmly on the side of the dogs.

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Which means I'm flying the flag for cats!

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Last time, cats took the lead in the first round of our epic battle,

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as we tested our pets' intelligence,

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their senses and their physical prowess.

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Tonight, though, we're once again drawing on ground-breaking research

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from around the world to compare our favourite animals

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for the very first time.

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By the end of the show, we'll know who comes out on top, cats or dogs.

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This time, we're looking at which animal is easier to train.

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-How well do they understand us?

-DOG BARKS

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-And how well do we understand them?

-CAT MEOWS

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Which one is best for our stress?

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And who is more independent? Which animal is the "lone ranger"?

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And finally, we use brand-new science to try and find out

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the answer to the ultimate question.

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Do our cats and dogs really love us?

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And if so, which loves us the most?

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Let the battle continue.

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And may the best pet win.

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-The best pet win?

-It's clearly going to be cats.

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Here's the best pet. Look at this! Black poodle.

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And to battle this out, we're basing ourselves here in Cambridgeshire,

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at one of the country's leading veterinary referral centres

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and it's one that specialises in cats and dogs.

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The 200-strong staff here

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look after thousands of cats and dogs every year.

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They're experts in animal behaviour and physiology. They've seen it all.

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'And we'll be consulting scientists from around the world,

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'but rest assured, none of our tests will cause any harm to the animals.

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'We'll also reveal more results from our unique survey of 1,000 people

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'who own both a cat and a dog

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'to find out which animal you thought was best.'

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To start off with, I'm going to lay an ace.

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I'm going to start strong.

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You see, from my point of view,

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one of the things that makes the dog the better pet is trainability.

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'David Templar is one of the UK's top dog trainers.'

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DOG WHISTLE BLOWS

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'He's been training and breeding gun dogs for over 30 years

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'and today, I'm going to put him and his dogs to the test.'

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Good boy!

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I say - a finely-dressed man with an equally fine pack of dogs.

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-Thank you. Hi, Chris.

-How are you?

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-Very well, very well.

-Who have we got here, then?

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These are all award-winning dogs.

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Joe is the Labrador, he's a winning Labrador of ours.

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-Oh, yes.

-Gwendolyn here is a field trials champion.

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You've trained these dogs to an exceptional standard,

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but surely not every dog is trainable?

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Any dog you could ever have, it can be trained.

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OK, so if I went and randomly selected one of your puppies...

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If I gave you just half an hour,

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what could you do with one of those animals?

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No previous training?

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Hopefully, it will walk to heel and it will sit.

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Well, it's certainly a challenge, but I'm up for it.

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'These are some of David's puppies

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'and they've not yet had any training at all.'

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So, my task is to pick just one of these.

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OK, what about this one here? Come on.

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-Come on, then.

-So, this is the one. Here we go.

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-Thank you, Chris.

-Now, I'm absolutely ruthless.

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So, half an hour and it's going to start the minute you leave the pen.

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Well, let's see what we can do.

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Oh, over we go. Hello, we'd better name you.

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Right, Chris, would you like to name it?

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-How about "Max"?

-Max?

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Max. OK, come on. Right, you're down to 29 minutes, mate.

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29 minutes? Let's go. Thank you.

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Let's go, little puppy-wuppy. Let's go and see what we can do.

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Oh, come on then, come on then! Let's have a bit of fun.

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You've got a new name, called Max.

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'David needs to teach Max to walk to heel, to sit

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'and to wear a lead for the first time in his life.

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'After a few minutes of play, training begins.'

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Good boy.

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'Amazingly, David is training Max without using any treats -

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'just some love and attention is enough.'

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Good boy. Hey, hey, hey!

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Max, Max? Sit. Sit... Good boy.

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Yeah, you're nearly ready now.

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Chris, it's done!

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You haven't had your full half an hour.

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-How long have we got?

-You've got another...seven minutes.

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Seven minutes?

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You clearly don't need it. You're brimming with confidence.

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-OK.

-Obviously, we're now a little bit tired,

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-because we've had that 20 minutes, a bit of pressure...

-No, hold on.

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I don't need excuses. I need a demonstration.

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-Let's have a look.

-Let's see what we can do.

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-Hello, Maxie. Heel, heel, heel.

-DAVID BECKONS

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Heel, good lad. Heel.

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Good boy.

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Good lad. A little puppy.

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Sit.

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There you go, Chris.

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I'm impressed. I'm impressed.

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For a very small puppy, that's pretty good.

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-He's on the way.

-He's on the way.

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-A future champion.

-Could well be.

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'Of course, this is just the beginning.

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'It's going to take many months to fully train Max.

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'And a dog's incredible trainability

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'is key to their amazing relationship with us,

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'which began some 35,000 years ago.

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'And over the millennia,

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'we've selectively bred the most trainable dogs,

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'resulting in a remarkable partnership.

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'The same traits that make them so good at working with us

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'now make them wonderful pets.'

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'Cats, on the other hand,

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'only began their domestication 10,000 years ago

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'and we haven't bred them for trainability.'

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But we did ask owners if they thought you could train a cat.

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37% said no.

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58% thought it was possible.

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Let's see if they're right.

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'Cosmos lives in Wiltshire with his owner, Dr Sarah Ellis.

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BELL RINGS

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'After a hard day out on the prowl, dinner is served.

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'After dinner, he likes nothing more than relaxing on the sofa

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'with his favourite TV show.'

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The way that they experience and understand their world

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is far more sophisticated than I would have imagined.

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'No, no, no. That won't do.

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I've learned that it's the animal senses that shut...

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Could find a way for cats... 'That's more like it.'

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..to maintain their independent, wild side

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and live happier lives alongside us.

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'Clearly, Cosmos has been very well trained by Sarah,

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'so I've come to find out how it's done.'

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BELL RINGS

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SHE LAUGHS

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-Hey, Cosmos.

-Hi.

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I have never seen a cat do that before. That's amazing!

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So Sarah, how do you go about training a cat?

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Much the same way you do as a dog.

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Any behaviour that we want that's desirable, we reward.

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It has a positive consequence

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and that's going to make that behaviour

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much more likely to happen again.

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Any behaviour that we don't want to happen, we simply ignore.

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And that's exactly how dogs learn too.

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So, what kind of rewards work well for cats?

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Is it only food?

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I would say it's probably the most universal for cats.

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But there are other things. One being toys.

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If we play with toys in the right way so that it mimics hunting,

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that can also be a really good motivating reward.

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To what extent are you limited

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by the animal's intrinsic natural behaviours,

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when it comes to getting them to do things for you?

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We can train them to do anything

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that they are physically capable to do, by simply

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rewarding small approximations of that final end goal behaviour.

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OK, so then, how does it work in practice?

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You taught Cosmos how to change the channels on the remote.

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Can you show me how you teach him to do that?

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Yeah, sure. So, I just basically present this to him

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and initially if he just sniffed it, I would reward that.

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And then I moved it slightly higher up and slightly out of his reach,

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so that he was more inclined to reach it with his paw.

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Good. There you go.

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Well done.

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And then, when he did that, I only rewarded that behaviour.

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I didn't reward the earlier behaviours

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and then I brought it back down again, knowing now that he knew

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only to paw it until I could place it on the sofa and he would paw it.

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It's those successive approximations of your final desired behaviour.

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Amazing.

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You were great, Cosmos.

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High five. Oh!

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I've got to say, I'm very, very surprised

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that cats can be trained in the same way as dogs,

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but then to train a cat,

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you're going to need an enormous amount of time,

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a tremendous amount of patience and the right sort of cat.

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And whatever the animal, to train it, you're going to need motivation.

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Motivation is needed for all sorts of success in life.

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Now, there's some brand-new science that's been done

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which explains not only why dogs are easy to be trained,

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but why they're keen to be trained.

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'I went to Hungary to find out more.

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'At the Family Dog lab in Budapest, Attila Andics and Marta Gacsi

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'have trained dogs to take part in an extraordinary experiment.'

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This is Apatch and aside from being an extraordinarily cute little dog,

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he's also a remarkable dog,

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because he's been taking part in some ground-breaking research

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which has revealed just why dogs are so trainable.

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But in order to do that, he's had to learn something quite extraordinary.

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Now, he belongs to Marta, one of the scientists here and luckily,

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she's come along today so that he can repeat some of this experiment.

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Come on, then.

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'Amazingly, Attila and Marta have trained dogs

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'to voluntarily lie still in a brain scanner.'

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Now, I've seen dogs trained to do some remarkable things before,

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but nothing like this.

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Look at that. He's jumped up on the bed of the scanner.

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He's laying perfectly still...

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and he's got headphones on.

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'Marta stays in the scanner room with Apatch,

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'whilst Attila and I watch from the control room.'

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Now, we can start the scanning.

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So, Attila, tell me what's going to be going on inside the scanner?

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We are measuring the activity in the dog brain

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to see how it reacts to praises.

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Dogs hear voice recordings through headphones of people saying

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"good boy" and other praise words.

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'Apatch is listening to praise,

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'while the brain scanner measures neural activity inside his brain.

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'The experiment lasts eight minutes and Apatch lies perfectly still.

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'Any more than 3mm of movement would ruin the data.'

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Here's a question. If you say, "Good boy, good boy" to a dog,

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they normally just start wagging their tail

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-and that's going to spoil things as well.

-Oh, it's hard.

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Yeah, it's hard for them. We train them not to wag their tail.

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So, he's been trained NOT to wag his tail?

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-Yeah, they're trained not...

-It's a hell of a dog you've got there.

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'The results are still unpublished,

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'but the scans show that when Apatch hears the praise words,

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'the reward regions of his brain are activated.'

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Whenever a dog is praised,

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the dog will activate this so-called "reward centre".

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These are very ancient brain regions of not only dogs,

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but in many animals.

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-Including us?

-Yep.

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And they typically respond to food, drink, sex...

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These are the regions which somehow signal to the individual that,

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hey, something pleasurable just happened.

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OK. So, is it fair to say then,

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that when we praise our dogs, we are making them happy with that praise?

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Yeah, I think this is actually a proof that these dogs

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find verbal praise pleasurable,

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just as they would enjoy a food treat.

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These results are hugely significant,

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because they reveal that dogs get pleasure from our praise.

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So in turn, they are motivated to please us

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and it's that which makes them so eminently trainable.

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'In our survey, many of you were right

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'when you said that cats could be trained,

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'but the science shows that pooches win paws down on trainability.'

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Dogs are understandably easier to train than cats,

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but we all know what can happen

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if you don't take the time to train your dog.

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'Who could forget Britain's least obedient dog?'

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Fenton!

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FENTON!

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When relationships go wrong between dogs and their owners,

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one of the principal reasons is because at some stage,

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communication has broken down.

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Communication in all its forms can go a long way

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towards building great relationships with your pets.

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But how well do you think you can understand yours?

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In our survey of joint cat and dog owners, we asked

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which one they thought communicated with them the best -

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the cat or the dog.

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OK, and here are the results.

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11% of you said cats. I am DEEPLY disappointed with that.

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11%... 78% said it was their dogs

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and I think that's quite telling.

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'So, let's see what the science says about all of this.

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'Our next battle cry is all about communication.'

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This is one of four dog wards here in the clinic

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and although many of these animals are on the road to recovery,

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DOGS BARK as you can hear,

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they're not having any trouble communicating whatsoever.

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-And you listen to this all day?

-Yeah, we certainly do.

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-Can you talk dog?

-We generally understand what they're trying to tell us.

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They have a range of different barks.

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I've got two dogs and I can identify which dog is which by their barks.

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-Yes.

-And also, what they're trying to say.

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What's interesting about the barking, though,

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is that wolves only bark for about 3% of their vocalisations.

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Dogs spend a lot more time barking because we understand that -

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it's part of a process of what we call co-evolution.

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We both evolve to understand one another,

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so that we can properly communicate.

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Yeah! What about that, Liz?

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Can your cats properly communicate like that?

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Can you talk cat, Liz?

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Yes, all very impressive, but the thing is,

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cats have also developed a way of communicating specifically with us.

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Adult wild cats rarely meow, but domestic cats meow a lot

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and this seems to be mainly for our benefit

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and the acoustic properties of the meow have changed over time.

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Domestic meows are shorter

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and of higher frequency than the wild cat meow.

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-Listen to this wild cat...

-HARSH WILD CAT MEOW

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Our domestic cat meows sound a lot more pleasant to the human ear.

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DOMESTIC CAT MEOWS

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And recent research has revealed

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that cat owners can understand their cats

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much better than you might think.

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'I've come to The Black Cat pub in Chesham

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'to test out cat communication skills

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'with the help of our top cat whisperer.'

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I'm meeting Sarah Ellis and a group of cat owners here

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to find out to what extent we might be able to understand cat meows -

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and the pub's very own black cat is here as well,

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so we're enlisting him to take part in our little experiment.

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-I take it this is THE black cat?

-This is the cat. This is Rambo.

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-How old is Rambo?

-Nine.

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-And is he very vocal?

-No.

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He knows what he wants and he gets what he wants when he wants it.

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-..Without having to meow too much for it?

-Yeah... No, no.

-Fair enough.

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CAT MEOWS

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'Our human volunteers have been recording their cats meowing

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-'in a variety of situations.

-CAT MEOWS SOFTLY

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'While they're watching their owner preparing food...

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'when they're negotiating a barrier...

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'when they want attention from their owner

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'and when their owner is withholding food.'

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OK, so the first thing we're going to do is try and figure out

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whether YOU can recognise your own cat,

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from a selection of cat meows.

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So when you think you hear your cat, just shout out, "That's my cat".

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Here we go.

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-CAT MEOWS

-I'll go for Cookie.

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-CAT MEOWS

-I think that's Dinah.

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CAT MEOWS

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I'm pretty sure that's Rambo.

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CAT MEOWS

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That's Hen.

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CAT MEOWS I think that's mine.

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CAT PURRS

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I think that's my cat.

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Hand up immediately.

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You guys are good. Well done.

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Well done, everybody. That was really interesting.

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You do know your cats. There's no question.

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'Everyone was able to recognise their cat's meow,

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'but now, we're going to see if they can recognise

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'the context of the different meows.'

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CAT MEOWS

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-That's hard. I'll go for food preparation.

-OK.

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CAT MEOWS

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Sounds like he wants to go out.

0:18:240:18:26

CAT MEOWS

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Is...that...preparing food?

0:18:290:18:33

CAT MEOWS

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I would say that's him wanting food - food preparation.

0:18:350:18:39

CAT MEOWS

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-I would hazard a guess at attention.

-OK.

0:18:410:18:44

CAT MEOWS

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Yeah, that's negotiating a barrier.

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OK. Seem pretty sure of yourself there, Rhana.

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I know my cat.

0:18:510:18:53

Right, so I think it's the moment we've all been waiting for.

0:18:530:18:57

-Please give them their results.

-OK.

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We have a group that did very, very well and that was you three here.

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LAUGHTER

0:19:040:19:05

You were 100%. Well done, guys.

0:19:050:19:09

-High five.

-High five.

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I'm afraid you guys didn't do as well as this group,

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but I think you actually ended up

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with a harder bunch of cats, by chance.

0:19:150:19:19

So Sarah, how does our little experiment

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marry with the research that you've carried out?

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When we look at cat meows, there isn't a universal language.

0:19:230:19:27

Each individual cat seems to have

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its own set of distinct vocalisations.

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By living with the cat, they're able to learn

0:19:320:19:35

each individual cat's own vocalisations

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and also, the cat will be able to try out different meows

0:19:380:19:42

and find out which one works best for that owner.

0:19:420:19:45

OK, so the owner learns to become more familiar with the cat's meows

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and the cat's meows are changing and becoming more and more specific

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to that owner, because of the owner's behaviour.

0:19:520:19:54

Yeah. It's an incredibly clever species.

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It's able to manipulate us and to live alongside us

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to really get what it wants and have the best of life.

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Communication of course is a two-way process,

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so how well do THEY understand us?

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I'm almost lost for words.

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I mean, dogs have got this in the bag, you know, hands down.

0:20:120:20:15

Cats don't even know their own name.

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Ah, not true, Chris. Take a look at this.

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'Scientists in Japan carried out a simple experiment'

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RESEARCHER SPEAKS JAPANESE

0:20:220:20:23

'to see if cats recognised their own name.'

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SPEAKS JAPANESE

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'Cats do know their name, even if they don't come running every time.

0:20:320:20:35

CAT MEOWS

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'But you can train them to come, especially if food is involved.'

0:20:360:20:41

Come here.

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-Come here...

-SHE LAUGHS

0:20:460:20:49

-That was a brilliant entrance.

-It's Super Cat! He's amazing.

0:20:490:20:52

I know! It was amazing. But getting back to the serious stuff.

0:20:520:20:55

In our last programme,

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we proved that dogs are the more intelligent animal...

0:20:560:20:59

-We didn't, really...

-..And therefore,

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they have a better understanding of their humans.

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We've even come across a dog

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that knows as many words as a two-year-old.

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'Yeah, Gable the border collie is ten years old

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'and lives in Loughborough with his owner, Sally.

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'Dr Emile van der Zee from the University of Lincoln

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'has been studying Gable's remarkable abilities.

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'To test him, Sally and Emile are laying out

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'a large selection of his toys.'

0:21:260:21:28

Gabe! Pig, get pig.

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Good boy. Get spacehopper.

0:21:400:21:43

'Gable knows the name of about 150 toys.'

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Good boy!

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It started when he was a young puppy.

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I just used to say, well, go and get your ball,

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or go and get your toy and I suddenly began to realise,

0:21:540:21:56

he actually was going and getting what I was asking him to do.

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So I thought, I'll try him on one that's hidden upstairs.

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So I said to him, Gable, get Kong.

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Before I knew it, he had appeared with this toy.

0:22:090:22:12

Good boy!

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So then, I just thought, I'll see what happens if I teach him toys

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and, you know, see how many he can remember.

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So, the game really started from there.

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Right, what shall we get this time? Get Henrietta.

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I contacted Lincoln University,

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seeing whether or not they might be interested in him.

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It was very exciting for us,

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because it's wonderful to see how dogs learn words and we discovered

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that he knew about 45 different words and it's quite amazing to see

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that he now knows about 150 words and that is very much comparable

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to what a child knows when they are sort of two years old.

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What about...pineapple?

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I think Gable is quite unique.

0:22:510:22:52

There are only four to five other dogs in the whole world

0:22:520:22:55

that we know that know so many words.

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My guess would be that dogs in general

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understand up to about ten words,

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but I'm sure that if people try at home

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that it is possible to train your dogs and to know more words.

0:23:030:23:07

'Remarkably, Emile discovered that Gable is also able to work out

0:23:070:23:11

'the names of new objects without being taught.'

0:23:110:23:15

So what we're going to do now... There are five objects over there

0:23:150:23:18

that Gable already knows the name for

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and we're going to put a new object over there

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and then Sally will sound out a new name and let's see what happens.

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Will Gable be able to work out

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that the new name refers to the new toy -

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the one that he's never seen before?

0:23:310:23:33

Get Chris Packham.

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'What?!'

0:23:360:23:37

-Yeah!

-Yeah! Well done.

0:23:420:23:44

-Yeah, look at that.

-Chris Packham!

-LAUGHTER

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Good lad, good lad!

0:23:480:23:50

Bobby, this is Chris. Chris!

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Fetch Chris.

0:23:550:23:57

Yeah. Perhaps we're some ways from teaching cats

0:23:570:24:00

as many words as Gable knows.

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But you know what? It's not just about verbal communication.

0:24:020:24:06

'Visual communication also plays a huge part

0:24:060:24:09

'in how we relate to our cats.

0:24:090:24:12

'And these cats have even been taught to understand sign language.'

0:24:120:24:17

That is, I have to say, truly wonderful -

0:24:270:24:29

but I can't let Liz have it all her own way.

0:24:290:24:32

I'm here with Rosie and Horus.

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And Rosie, Horus is completely deaf, isn't he?

0:24:340:24:37

Yep, he's completely deaf.

0:24:370:24:39

But you've trained him to respond to a large number of hand commands.

0:24:390:24:44

Yeah. The last time I counted,

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-he knows about 60 different hand signals.

-Goodness me.

0:24:460:24:49

Can we have a look at some of the signals, then?

0:24:490:24:51

-Some of the things that you've taught him.

-Yeah.

0:24:510:24:53

So, we have a "sit". Good boy. And then "stand up". Good boy.

0:24:530:24:56

Good boy, down.

0:25:000:25:01

Down.

0:25:020:25:04

-Yeah, good boy!

-That's fantastic.

0:25:060:25:08

Well, he's a remarkable dog.

0:25:080:25:10

And I've got to say, you must be a remarkable trainer.

0:25:100:25:12

'So far in our communication round, it's very close.

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'Dogs may be ahead by a whisker,

0:25:160:25:18

'but they've got an unfair advantage.'

0:25:180:25:20

Dogs are social animals and we've bred them to obey our every command.

0:25:200:25:25

Cats, on the other hand, are solitary animals

0:25:250:25:28

and we haven't domesticated them for anywhere near as long.

0:25:280:25:30

So, the fact that they can understand us at all

0:25:300:25:32

-is pretty remarkable.

-You're absolutely right,

0:25:320:25:35

but there is one other key relationship factor

0:25:350:25:38

that we have to think about when it comes to making the best pet -

0:25:380:25:42

and that is emotional understanding.

0:25:420:25:45

'I've come to the Clever Dog Lab in Vienna

0:25:470:25:50

'to meet Professor Ludwig Huber and a very clever dog called Mikhail.'

0:25:500:25:55

Ludwig, like many dog owners,

0:25:550:25:57

I think that my dogs can discriminate my facial expressions

0:25:570:26:02

and you've come up with quite a neat and sophisticated test

0:26:020:26:04

to see if this is the case. How does it work?

0:26:040:26:07

First of all, we showed him an angry face next to a happy face

0:26:070:26:12

and as you can see, only half of the face.

0:26:120:26:15

In this case, it's the lower part

0:26:150:26:16

and the dog is trained to touch with the nose one of those faces.

0:26:160:26:20

Either the happy or the angry.

0:26:200:26:22

'Mikhail has been trained to touch the smiling half face to get a treat.'

0:26:220:26:26

Most of the dogs, not all...

0:26:260:26:28

11 of 18, are able to make this discrimination.

0:26:280:26:31

'But Ludwig now ups the ante

0:26:330:26:35

'to test that the dogs are really recognising the emotion in the face

0:26:350:26:40

'and not just a simpler cue, like the smile.

0:26:400:26:43

'Can he correctly pick the happy eyes,

0:26:440:26:47

'even though he was only trained with the lower half of the face?

0:26:470:26:52

'Well, yes.

0:26:520:26:53

'Incredibly, Mikhail appears to be able

0:26:530:26:56

'to still pick the correct emotion from the eyes alone.'

0:26:560:27:00

The dogs that we tested...

0:27:000:27:02

all of them were significantly above chance

0:27:020:27:05

when they first saw the other half.

0:27:050:27:08

In the range of 70-80% correct.

0:27:080:27:10

70-80%? That's more than convincing.

0:27:100:27:13

Superb. Superb.

0:27:180:27:20

You see, I feel vindicated as a dog owner.

0:27:200:27:23

I thought all along

0:27:230:27:24

that they would be able to distinguish my facial expressions -

0:27:240:27:28

to tell when I was happy and sad.

0:27:280:27:30

But the next big question is, of course,

0:27:300:27:33

do they actually understand what those emotions mean?

0:27:330:27:38

That's the tricky one.

0:27:380:27:40

'And to find out, I'm meeting Professor Adam Miklosi

0:27:420:27:45

'at the Family Dog lab in Budapest.'

0:27:450:27:48

Tell me about this experiment we're going to look at now, then.

0:27:480:27:51

Here we try to understand how

0:27:510:27:53

and whether dogs are understanding human emotions.

0:27:530:27:56

So, in order to do that, we put two bottles on the floor,

0:27:560:28:00

one at each side and ask the owner to display

0:28:000:28:04

either a happy emotion behind one of them

0:28:040:28:07

and a disgusting emotion behind the other one -

0:28:070:28:10

and ask the dog to retrieve one of them, whichever he likes.

0:28:100:28:15

And if dogs understand the human emotion,

0:28:150:28:18

they should retrieve the happy bottle.

0:28:180:28:20

-OK, let's see how he gets on.

-Yeah.

0:28:200:28:23

Off he goes.

0:28:230:28:25

-Oh, it's going good.

-Happy bottle.

0:28:250:28:27

This is the happy emotion. He likes it.

0:28:290:28:32

And that's the disgusting one. That's really disgusting.

0:28:340:28:37

-He's gone straight for the happy bottle.

-Yeah.

0:28:440:28:47

What was the overall result that you found?

0:28:470:28:49

Out of testing more than 120 dogs in this experiment,

0:28:490:28:54

we found that dogs retrieved over 66% the happy object

0:28:540:28:59

that was really preferred by the owner.

0:28:590:29:02

This experiment seems to suggest

0:29:060:29:09

that dogs can certainly read our emotions -

0:29:090:29:13

maybe even understand them,

0:29:130:29:16

especially when we're being happy.

0:29:160:29:19

Now, your cats...

0:29:200:29:22

Your cats can't do that, can they?

0:29:220:29:24

No, no, no, no.

0:29:240:29:26

A cat can't do that, can it? They can't, no.

0:29:260:29:28

So, are dogs in a league of their own

0:29:310:29:33

when it comes to reading our faces?

0:29:330:29:35

Well, a new study published by Oakland University in Michigan

0:29:350:29:39

has shown that when cat owners smile,

0:29:390:29:42

their cats respond more positively and spend more time with them.

0:29:420:29:45

That's not bad for a solitary animal

0:29:450:29:47

that's been living alongside us for a relatively short time.

0:29:470:29:51

In our survey,

0:29:520:29:53

78% of you thought that dogs were the better communicators.

0:29:530:29:57

But the latest science shows that when it comes to communicating,

0:29:580:30:02

cats are catching up with canines.

0:30:020:30:04

So, we're calling it a draw.

0:30:040:30:06

This mutual understanding makes for a close relationship with our pets,

0:30:100:30:15

which can be a great source of stress relief.

0:30:150:30:18

So, that's what we're going to test next.

0:30:180:30:20

In our survey of those people that have both cats and dogs,

0:30:250:30:28

we asked them, which of the two gave them the greatest stress relief?

0:30:280:30:32

49% said it was the dogs

0:30:320:30:35

and 35% said it was the cats.

0:30:350:30:37

I'll say no more. I'll let the great British public

0:30:370:30:40

and the statistics do all the talking.

0:30:400:30:42

Yeah, but we wanted to take it a little bit further than that,

0:30:420:30:44

so we carried out a little competition to find out

0:30:440:30:47

which of the cat or dog are better at calming frayed nerves

0:30:470:30:51

and we called it, obviously, "Stress Factor". Sorry.

0:30:510:30:55

'Back at Lincoln University, a group of animal lovers have volunteered

0:30:560:31:00

'to take part in a scientific experiment with a terrifying twist.

0:31:000:31:04

'They know that cats and dogs are involved,

0:31:050:31:08

'but what they don't know

0:31:080:31:09

'is that we're going to put them in a very stressful situation.'

0:31:090:31:13

Our participants are going to come in here, the pet room,

0:31:130:31:16

and a third of them will be given a kitten.

0:31:160:31:19

A third of them will be given a puppy

0:31:190:31:21

and the last third, unfortunately, won't be given anything,

0:31:210:31:23

because we've got to have a control group.

0:31:230:31:26

They're then going to be asked to open the envelope over there,

0:31:260:31:29

which will reveal that they've got to sing in front of us -

0:31:290:31:32

and that should induce quite an amount of stress.

0:31:320:31:36

I'm going to leave Rio here with Emma

0:31:360:31:38

and I'm going to join the judging panel.

0:31:380:31:41

There you go, my lovely.

0:31:410:31:43

-Hello.

-Hi, Nigel. I'm Emma, this is George.

0:31:450:31:47

'The question is, will cats and dogs reduce our singers' stress response?

0:31:470:31:52

'And if so, which will reduce it more?

0:31:520:31:55

'First of all, we measure

0:31:570:31:59

'our volunteers' blood pressure and heart rate

0:31:590:32:01

'while they're in blissful ignorance of what is about to come.

0:32:010:32:05

'Then, they're left to play with their new friends.

0:32:080:32:10

'The cat lovers play with the kitten,

0:32:100:32:13

'while the dog lovers play with the puppy

0:32:130:32:15

'and our controls are left to chat with Emma.'

0:32:150:32:18

-I'm from Liverpool, originally.

-Yeah, you said.

-I probably said!

0:32:180:32:21

'It's then time to find out what they have to do next.'

0:32:210:32:25

-Er...

-LAUGHTER

0:32:280:32:31

"In 60 seconds, you have to sing a song...

0:32:340:32:37

"..In front of a panel of people.

0:32:370:32:39

LAUGHTER

0:32:390:32:41

-"Your performance will be filmed...

-"..For a TV documentary."

0:32:410:32:44

Are you kidding?

0:32:440:32:45

Oh, no, I can't...

0:32:450:32:47

Do I really have to sing?

0:32:470:32:49

'As the tension mounts,

0:32:490:32:51

'we take another blood pressure and heart rate reading.

0:32:510:32:55

'The discovery that they have to sing for us

0:32:550:32:57

'should make them both shoot up.

0:32:570:32:59

'But will having a kitten or a puppy reduce this stress response?'

0:33:010:33:05

In... OK.

0:33:060:33:08

Hi, there. Welcome to the Stress Factor.

0:33:110:33:13

'Finally, it's time to sing for our highly discerning panel.

0:33:130:33:17

'Dr Sophie Hall, Professor Daniel Mills and yours truly.'

0:33:170:33:20

Come in.

0:33:200:33:22

OK, are you ready?

0:33:220:33:24

# You ain't nothing but a hound dog

0:33:240:33:27

# Crying all the time... #

0:33:270:33:29

'A third of our participants faced the music alone...'

0:33:290:33:33

# They said you was high class... #

0:33:330:33:35

'..while the others have a kitten or a puppy for moral support.

0:33:350:33:38

# Well, that was just a lie. #

0:33:380:33:40

# Pussy cat, pussy cat...

0:33:400:33:43

# I love you. Yes...

0:33:430:33:45

# Yes, I do... #

0:33:450:33:48

-# You ain't nothing but a hound dog... #

-Cat's running away.

0:33:480:33:50

# Crying all the time...

0:33:500:33:52

# You ain't never caught a rabbit

0:33:520:33:54

# You ain't no friend of mine. #

0:33:540:33:57

Aha-huh!

0:33:570:33:58

APPLAUSE

0:33:580:34:00

That looked really stressful, I've got to say - very, very stressful.

0:34:040:34:08

It was, but the most important thing now is to find out

0:34:080:34:10

how the cat or the dog affected those stress levels.

0:34:100:34:14

Let's talk about the control group first.

0:34:140:34:17

This is our control group, before they knew about the task.

0:34:170:34:19

-OK.

-So then, this is what happened when they were told about the task.

0:34:190:34:24

So, you can see an increase of about 14% in heart rate

0:34:240:34:28

and an increase of about 9% in blood pressure.

0:34:280:34:30

I'm not surprised. That would have been my idea of hell.

0:34:300:34:33

I think my heart would have leapt out of my chest, not just gone up by 14%.

0:34:330:34:36

You should have gotten Chris to do it.

0:34:360:34:38

You really missed a trick there.

0:34:380:34:39

So then, let's take a look at when they were with a puppy.

0:34:390:34:43

So, at this point, they didn't know what the task was going to be

0:34:430:34:46

and then they find out about the task

0:34:460:34:49

and we have an increase of nearly 7% in heart rate -

0:34:490:34:52

half as much as what the control group is.

0:34:520:34:54

And then, a decrease in blood pressure by nearly 6%.

0:34:540:34:58

Don't look at me like that!

0:34:580:35:00

-6% decrease! What about that? In the presence of a puppy.

-OK...

0:35:000:35:03

I'm not surprised, my money was on the puppy.

0:35:030:35:05

-But let's talk about the kitten now.

-Kittens, right.

0:35:050:35:08

-So, again, this is before they knew about the task...

-Yes.

0:35:080:35:11

And then, they find out about the task

0:35:110:35:13

and about the same as the puppies.

0:35:130:35:15

-About the same, about the same?

-About the same, look.

0:35:150:35:18

No, 2.2 versus 5.7.

0:35:180:35:21

Yes, but is that statistically significant?

0:35:210:35:23

I'm afraid not, based on the sample size.

0:35:230:35:26

There you go. There you go!

0:35:260:35:27

So, our survey said that 49% of people thought

0:35:270:35:30

dogs would be better at reducing stress levels,

0:35:300:35:32

but this shows that cats and dogs

0:35:320:35:34

are pretty much the same at doing that.

0:35:340:35:37

Yes, doesn't seem to be much difference.

0:35:370:35:39

Both have a beneficial effect.

0:35:390:35:40

And it also ties in with other research that suggests that

0:35:400:35:43

people who have cats and dogs suffer less from cardiovascular disease.

0:35:430:35:46

So, in the long term, it's good for those pet owners

0:35:460:35:50

when it comes to reducing stress.

0:35:500:35:52

'So, cats and dogs are both fantastic stress busters.'

0:35:520:35:56

That's one more point each.

0:35:560:35:58

But are we always good for them?

0:35:580:36:00

Next, we're going to test just how independent our pets are.

0:36:000:36:03

'I want to know if a dog's eagerness to please us

0:36:090:36:11

'is always a good thing, so I went to Lincoln University to find out.'

0:36:110:36:15

Domestication seems to have shaped an already very strong tendency

0:36:170:36:21

in dogs to use social cues and it's made for amenable and devoted pets.

0:36:210:36:27

But it also means that, at times,

0:36:270:36:29

dogs can be a little bit too dependent on us,

0:36:290:36:32

even if the outcome isn't beneficial to them.

0:36:320:36:35

And that's what we're going to be testing out

0:36:350:36:37

with Professor Daniel Mills and his team today.

0:36:370:36:39

Are you ready, Maya? You ready? Come on.

0:36:390:36:41

Daniel, what's going on in this room today?

0:36:440:36:46

It's a very simple little set-up.

0:36:460:36:48

All we do is we have two plates and one of them's

0:36:480:36:51

got a handful of food and the other one's just got one piece of food.

0:36:510:36:54

But the person makes a real fuss over the one piece of food

0:36:540:36:57

and then we see whether or not the cat or the dog

0:36:570:37:00

prefers to go where the food is or whether they want to go

0:37:000:37:03

where the owner's making a fuss.

0:37:030:37:04

Well, I'd imagine, both animals, as they're food motivated,

0:37:040:37:07

would go for the plate with all the food.

0:37:070:37:10

You might imagine that, but let's wait and see.

0:37:100:37:12

'The dogs are up first.'

0:37:120:37:14

Here we go.

0:37:160:37:17

Yes!

0:37:200:37:21

Next, who's ready to go?

0:37:230:37:24

'They go to the plate with less food just because their owner

0:37:240:37:27

'is paying attention to it.

0:37:270:37:30

'They're so influenced by us that it overrides their own self-interest.'

0:37:300:37:34

They just go for whatever the owner's interested in.

0:37:350:37:39

Mmm! Mmm!

0:37:390:37:42

There we go, see?

0:37:420:37:43

Well, that was a clear case, wasn't it?

0:37:430:37:45

All the dogs went straight for the owner.

0:37:450:37:47

-Yep.

-And I am quite surprised at that

0:37:470:37:49

because dogs will eat constantly unless they're stopped.

0:37:490:37:53

Oh, yeah, a lot of the dogs are scavengers,

0:37:530:37:55

but from a dog's point of view, if you're interested in it,

0:37:550:37:58

I'm interested in it and that's a real feature of dogs.

0:37:580:38:00

If we're paying attention to something,

0:38:000:38:02

that becomes the most important thing in the world to them.

0:38:020:38:05

You know, the common mistake is somebody says to their dog,

0:38:050:38:08

"Leave that thing alone!" And, of course,

0:38:080:38:09

they're bringing attention to it.

0:38:090:38:11

So, the dog says, "Oh, I'd better go and investigate that."

0:38:110:38:14

So we've got to be very wary about what

0:38:140:38:16

we might inadvertently draw their attention to.

0:38:160:38:18

Absolutely, yeah.

0:38:180:38:19

OK. I'm really curious to see what the cats do now.

0:38:190:38:22

Yeah, I am too cos we've done some sort of preliminary work,

0:38:220:38:25

but we've never done exactly this study.

0:38:250:38:27

-So, we don't know how it's going to go. So, let's see.

-OK.

0:38:270:38:30

There we go. Ignores the owner, goes for the food.

0:38:350:38:38

'Despite their owner's efforts, the cats go for the plate

0:38:380:38:41

'with more food.'

0:38:410:38:42

That was utterly fascinating.

0:38:580:39:00

What an eye-opener.

0:39:000:39:01

Such different behaviour between these two species.

0:39:010:39:04

Yeah, yeah, really neat, you know.

0:39:040:39:06

The cat makes the decision and says,

0:39:060:39:07

"Actually, I'll look after myself first,

0:39:070:39:09

"I'll go for the food and yeah, I like my owner,

0:39:090:39:13

"but actually there's food there - that's my priority."

0:39:130:39:15

So, does that boil down to the fact that it's a solitary animal that was

0:39:150:39:19

pretty much left to its own devices during the domestication process?

0:39:190:39:23

Very different to how dogs are domesticated.

0:39:230:39:25

Yeah. So, we've bred dogs to really focus on us and that's what...

0:39:250:39:29

Because we've got to work with them in a lot of situations,

0:39:290:39:32

but the downside is that can lead them into trouble.

0:39:320:39:35

Whereas, in the cats, when we domesticated them,

0:39:350:39:37

they really came in from the cold to go and hunt for the rats and mice

0:39:370:39:40

and we don't tell them which rat or mouse we want killed.

0:39:400:39:43

We just want them out of the grain store.

0:39:430:39:44

And as a result, they think for themselves and that, for me,

0:39:440:39:48

makes for a really interesting pet.

0:39:480:39:50

So, a dog's ability to read and obey our signals

0:39:530:39:56

can be counterproductive at times.

0:39:560:39:58

I know, I know, but the thing is we're talking about petability here

0:39:580:40:02

and what this shows is that dogs have evolved to be closer to humans.

0:40:020:40:05

So, in my mind, that makes them the better pet.

0:40:050:40:08

Yes, but there is a potential downside.

0:40:090:40:11

'You see, dogs' closeness to us can make them prone

0:40:110:40:14

'to suffering separation anxiety.

0:40:140:40:17

'So, I decided to investigate this with my own dogs.'

0:40:170:40:21

Meet Itchy and Scratchy, my two black poodles.

0:40:210:40:24

They're 12 and a half years old now,

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though I've had them since they were little six-week-old puppies

0:40:260:40:31

and you know, I'm not ashamed to say to you that

0:40:310:40:36

I love these dogs as much as I love my stepdaughter or my partner.

0:40:360:40:39

They're a MASSIVE part of my life.

0:40:390:40:41

I wouldn't normally leave them on their own, but today,

0:40:430:40:45

in the interest of science, that's exactly what I am going to do.

0:40:450:40:49

Cos I want to see if they miss me as much as I miss them.

0:40:490:40:54

Come on, boys. Come on.

0:40:550:40:56

While I've been out with the poods, Professor Daniel Mills

0:40:590:41:03

has been setting up cameras all around my house,

0:41:030:41:05

so we can find out if Itchy and Scratchy

0:41:050:41:08

suffer from separation anxiety.

0:41:080:41:10

-Hello, Dan. How are you?

-Good to see you.

-All right?

0:41:100:41:14

'We're also going to take some physiological measures

0:41:140:41:16

'to quantify their stress levels.

0:41:160:41:19

'First, we collect some saliva,

0:41:200:41:22

'so we can measure the levels of the stress hormone - cortisol.

0:41:220:41:25

'Next, we measure their ear temperature,

0:41:270:41:30

'which Daniel's latest research shows is an indicator of stress.'

0:41:300:41:35

When they're happy, then often the left ear seems to be warmer

0:41:350:41:37

than the right ear, and you can see that the left ear's

0:41:370:41:40

actually about a degree higher than the right ear at the moment.

0:41:400:41:43

Good lad.

0:41:430:41:44

-Happy dogs at the moment.

-Happy dogs.

0:41:440:41:46

'Lastly, we're putting on heart rate monitors

0:41:470:41:50

'to measure their pulse.

0:41:500:41:52

'We want to see if all of these measures of stress increase

0:41:520:41:56

'when I leave the house.

0:41:560:41:58

'So, now it's time for me to pretend to pack up and go.'

0:41:580:42:01

This is the bit they really don't like.

0:42:020:42:05

Chris Packham packing.

0:42:050:42:07

So, I'll just make sure that they see that I've got

0:42:080:42:11

all my normal things. There's my wash bag, look at that.

0:42:110:42:14

You know that when the binoculars go,

0:42:140:42:17

the man who looks at birds is going.

0:42:170:42:19

'The dogs might look calm here, but their hearts are racing

0:42:190:42:22

'at over 225 beats a minute -

0:42:220:42:26

'a sure sign that they're stressed by the impending separation.'

0:42:260:42:29

Sorry, boys. I know, I know.

0:42:310:42:35

This is where it really sinks in. See you later.

0:42:350:42:38

See you later and you. See you later, too.

0:42:380:42:41

Yeah.

0:42:410:42:42

Look at the looks on their faces.

0:42:440:42:47

All right, let's get this over quick.

0:42:470:42:48

OK, you guys better step out and I'll lock up.

0:42:480:42:52

OK.

0:42:520:42:53

Sorry, boys.

0:42:540:42:55

Here we are.

0:42:580:42:59

Oh, boys. No, no, no, you can't come. You can't come.

0:43:000:43:03

You can't come, seriously.

0:43:030:43:05

THEY WHINE

0:43:050:43:07

I feel mean, I feel mean.

0:43:110:43:13

Oh, dear.

0:43:130:43:15

There's a good scientific reason for this, of course.

0:43:150:43:18

See you, boys, goodbye!

0:43:180:43:20

When I shut the door, their heart rate spikes again.

0:43:220:43:25

'I join Daniel to watch them on the monitor.

0:43:260:43:29

'I've never actually seen what happens after I've gone,

0:43:290:43:32

'so I am genuinely curious...

0:43:320:43:34

'but worried.'

0:43:340:43:35

I feel really bad, honestly.

0:43:440:43:46

This seems terrible to me. Absolutely terrible.

0:43:490:43:53

Why is it, Dan, that they get so upset like this?

0:43:530:43:56

It can be that they're just frustrated

0:43:560:43:58

and they want to get out, but we're not seeing that here.

0:43:580:44:02

And the other option is that it's the relationship with you

0:44:020:44:04

and they're so dependent on you for their safety and security,

0:44:040:44:07

when you go it's really hard.

0:44:070:44:09

It's like a mother leaving her baby, to be honest, and

0:44:090:44:11

-from that baby's point of view, it's a life-and-death situation.

-Yeah.

0:44:110:44:15

I mean, I don't leave them often.

0:44:170:44:18

I normally leave them with a lady that looks after then.

0:44:180:44:21

So, this situation is rare.

0:44:210:44:23

I knew it would be bad. I didn't think it would be quite this bad,

0:44:230:44:26

-to be quite honest with you.

-Yeah, I'm...

0:44:260:44:28

I can assure you, I've seen a lot worse than this.

0:44:280:44:30

THEY WHINE

0:44:300:44:32

-So, now I should go back in.

-Yep.

0:44:350:44:37

-See you in a minute.

-OK.

0:44:370:44:39

'It's now been half an hour.

0:44:400:44:42

'Time to get the rest of the data.'

0:44:420:44:45

Boys!

0:44:450:44:46

THEY BARK Boys!

0:44:490:44:51

Hello, boys. Hello!

0:44:510:44:54

Oh, I'm a terrible person!

0:44:540:44:55

Come on in.

0:44:550:44:57

I know. Oh, I know, I know, I know.

0:44:570:44:59

'I quickly take another saliva sample to see

0:44:590:45:02

'if being left alone by me has made the cortisol go up...'

0:45:020:45:05

Good boy.

0:45:050:45:06

'and we measure their ear temperate again too.'

0:45:060:45:08

I know. What a rotten person I was. I was pretending.

0:45:080:45:13

I wasn't even gone. I was just outside!

0:45:130:45:15

Ha-ha! But we've collected loads of data, yes.

0:45:150:45:19

Back at the clinic, it's now been analysed.

0:45:190:45:23

I've got to say, I always knew that Itchy and Scratchy got stressed

0:45:230:45:27

when I left, but I didn't think it would be THAT bad.

0:45:270:45:29

It was terrible.

0:45:290:45:30

I felt terrible and, to that end, I have honestly only left them

0:45:300:45:34

on their own twice since that.

0:45:340:45:37

I'll do everything I can to minimise it.

0:45:370:45:39

But I've got to say, the scientist in me still wants to know

0:45:390:45:42

the results and Butty Villiers here,

0:45:420:45:45

head of the Path Lab, has got the cortisol results.

0:45:450:45:48

Yes, Chris. Well, I'm afraid for Itchy we didn't get enough saliva,

0:45:480:45:52

but for Scratchy we have got some results.

0:45:520:45:54

So this here is the level before the separation at 64

0:45:540:45:57

and then afterwards when you came back and got the second sample,

0:45:570:46:00

it went up to 166 and that is a significant increase.

0:46:000:46:04

There is a bit of variation in dogs throughout the day, but not

0:46:040:46:07

this much and so that really does correspond to a stress response.

0:46:070:46:10

-That's down to stress?

-Yes, exactly, yes.

0:46:100:46:12

-What about the ears? We were looking at those as well.

-Yes.

0:46:120:46:14

We found that after separation, the temperature in the right ear

0:46:140:46:17

was higher than the left ear and the right side of the brain

0:46:170:46:20

is where you have more activity in negative emotional states and,

0:46:200:46:24

according to Daniel's latest ongoing work, it's a sign of distress.

0:46:240:46:27

-So that hot ear...

-Yes.

0:46:270:46:29

-Was showing mental distress?

-Indeed it was.

0:46:290:46:31

So we've got metabolic and mental distress in my poodles

0:46:310:46:34

-when I've gone out the door.

-Yes.

0:46:340:46:36

Not at all happy about this, but then again,

0:46:360:46:38

I shouldn't be surprised really because studies have shown that

0:46:380:46:41

up to 70% of dogs at some point in their lives

0:46:410:46:45

show separation anxiety.

0:46:450:46:48

I have to say, although I'm batting for the dogs here,

0:46:480:46:51

this is a bit of a downside.

0:46:510:46:52

They're so dependent upon us that sometimes we upset them.

0:46:520:46:57

The vast majority of people want to give their pets

0:46:570:47:00

as much love and care as possible.

0:47:000:47:03

But most dogs demand almost the same amount of attention

0:47:030:47:06

as a small child does

0:47:060:47:08

and cats are just not as demanding

0:47:080:47:11

and that can make them much easier pets to keep.

0:47:110:47:14

But what do cats get up to when they're alone?

0:47:140:47:17

Bob lives in Bristol with his owner, Karen, who works full time.

0:47:190:47:23

But when Karen goes out, Bob isn't pining at home.

0:47:230:47:27

Like many cats, he has his own independent life.

0:47:270:47:29

So Karen, tell me when you first got Bob?

0:47:310:47:34

Bob moved in about four years ago.

0:47:340:47:36

I came home one day and he was standing in the kitchen

0:47:360:47:38

and he just never left. That was it.

0:47:380:47:40

So you didn't acquire Bob, Bob acquired you.

0:47:400:47:43

Bob acquired me. That's Bob's style.

0:47:430:47:46

Bob chooses who he wants to live with.

0:47:460:47:48

How much do you know about what Bob gets up to when you're at work?

0:47:480:47:52

I think he wanders a lot round Bristol.

0:47:520:47:54

But it's kind of OK because Bob's character suits my lifestyle.

0:47:540:47:58

So I'll go out during the day and Bob goes out during the day and I'll

0:47:580:48:01

come home at night and I know that he's been completely entertained,

0:48:010:48:04

that he'll have probably gone into half a dozen houses.

0:48:040:48:08

He pimps his way around Bristol.

0:48:080:48:10

I mean it's like... It is like having a philandering husband.

0:48:100:48:14

He... He's here most of the time, but I know I'm not exclusive.

0:48:140:48:18

And actually that ... I'm cool with that. That's fine.

0:48:180:48:21

I wouldn't be cool if it were the husband.

0:48:210:48:24

OK, Karen. What we're going to do is attach this little tracker

0:48:240:48:27

and cat camera to Bob

0:48:270:48:30

so we can see exactly where he wanders to today.

0:48:300:48:34

You're all set, Bob.

0:48:350:48:37

While Karen goes off to work, Bob heads out on his daily rounds.

0:48:390:48:42

Let's see what he gets up to.

0:48:420:48:44

Right then, our trusty tracker and cat cam should tell us

0:49:010:49:04

a lot more about Bob's social life.

0:49:040:49:06

But I've also heard of a couple of places nearby

0:49:060:49:09

that Bob does visit so I'm going to check them out now.

0:49:090:49:12

-Hi.

-Hi.

0:49:190:49:20

-Are you Kate?

-Yes.

-I'm Liz.

-Hi Liz.

0:49:200:49:22

-Nice to meet you. How are you?

-Good.

0:49:220:49:24

-You know I'm here to ask you about Bob.

-Yes, Bob.

-Bob the cat.

0:49:240:49:27

I'm beginning to understand that he visits a lot of people around here.

0:49:270:49:30

Well, apparently but we didn't know that

0:49:300:49:32

when we thought we'd got a new cat.

0:49:320:49:35

So he visits you fairly regularly, then?

0:49:350:49:38

Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, he thinks he lives here.

0:49:380:49:41

-Right.

-And I thought he did.

0:49:410:49:43

-LAUGHS

-Till I found out.

0:49:430:49:45

That he only lives with you for a short amount of time

0:49:450:49:48

and he lives in other places along the time too.

0:49:480:49:50

He's a tart.

0:49:500:49:51

I don't know how he fitted us all in now I know what he's been up to.

0:49:520:49:55

Like many cats, Bob seems to have

0:49:570:50:00

adopted more than one home

0:50:000:50:01

and he comes and goes between them as he pleases.

0:50:010:50:05

He's also been known to visit the local school, Clifton College,

0:50:050:50:09

which is over a mile away.

0:50:090:50:11

-So I believe you've had a feline visitor to the college.

-Yeah.

0:50:110:50:15

A couple of years ago we had a cat.

0:50:150:50:17

In fact, he followed me down this corridor and he...

0:50:170:50:19

Just on the left here is a history classroom

0:50:190:50:22

and he went into a lesson there.

0:50:220:50:24

The teacher obviously said, you know, "Get out, we don't want cats in here."

0:50:240:50:27

So he followed me back and my office is just through that door,

0:50:270:50:30

-just to the right there and he came in. I bought a photo to show you.

-Aw...

0:50:300:50:33

He's obviously the most sociable cat in Clifton.

0:50:330:50:36

-SHE LAUGHS

-Clearly.

0:50:360:50:37

But today Bob is sticking closer to home.

0:50:390:50:42

So I'm dropping in on another neighbour he regularly visits.

0:50:420:50:45

-Hello.

-Hi.

-Are you Andrea?

-Yes.

0:50:480:50:50

-I'm Liz, nice to meet you.

-Oh, hello, Liz.

0:50:500:50:52

I hear that Bob sometimes comes to visit you.

0:50:520:50:54

-Can we have a chat about that for a quick second?

-He does.

0:50:540:50:57

-He's actually here at the moment.

-Is he here?

-Yes.

0:50:570:50:59

-Amazing. Can I have a look?

-Do, yes.

-That's such good news.

0:50:590:51:03

All right, sweetheart.

0:51:030:51:05

Where did you first meet him?

0:51:050:51:06

Well, I was sitting here...

0:51:060:51:09

in the lounge with the back door open

0:51:090:51:11

and he suddenly jumped up on my knee out of nowhere...

0:51:110:51:15

LIZ CHUCKLES

0:51:150:51:17

..and made himself comfortable

0:51:170:51:19

and sat there as if he had been here forever.

0:51:190:51:22

He kept coming back

0:51:220:51:24

and made himself a part of my life, really,

0:51:240:51:28

which was very nice because it was lovely to have the cat

0:51:280:51:31

but not the responsibility.

0:51:310:51:33

So when it comes to independence, cats beat dogs by leaps and bounds.

0:51:350:51:40

It's now three-all.

0:51:400:51:43

Which brings us to the final round.

0:51:430:51:45

Now they say that love makes the world go round,

0:51:450:51:48

but do our beloved pets actually love US?

0:51:480:51:54

I can tell you one thing, Liz, I'm pretty convinced...

0:51:580:52:00

I know it's going to sound subjective, that my dogs love me

0:52:000:52:04

as much as I love them

0:52:040:52:06

and I just can't see that coming from a cat.

0:52:060:52:09

Aren't they just too independent for that?

0:52:090:52:11

Well, cats behave in fundamentally different ways to dogs,

0:52:110:52:14

but does that mean they don't love us?

0:52:140:52:16

All you cat owners out there I'm sure will swear that your cats love you.

0:52:160:52:20

But we can't ask our cats or indeed our dogs,

0:52:200:52:23

-so we've got to turn to science to get some answers.

-Mmm.

0:52:230:52:26

In California, we commissioned the world's first scientific study

0:52:270:52:31

to see if cats can love their owners.

0:52:310:52:34

Professor Paul Zak, from Claremont Graduate University,

0:52:360:52:39

is known as the "love doctor".

0:52:390:52:41

He's an expert on the biochemistry that underlies bonding in mammals.

0:52:410:52:45

All mammals make a chemical in their brains called oxytocin

0:52:450:52:49

and it helps them form social bonds.

0:52:490:52:51

These include bonds between mothers and offspring

0:52:510:52:55

and between males and females.

0:52:550:52:57

It's released during birth, breast-feeding and sex.

0:52:570:53:01

Oxytocin really is the gold standard to assess

0:53:010:53:05

if two creatures love each other.

0:53:050:53:08

Paul is testing cats and dogs to see if being with their owners

0:53:100:53:14

affects their oxytocin levels.

0:53:140:53:16

He's recruited cat and dog owners who are all very much in love

0:53:190:53:24

with their pets and believe their pets love them back.

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I feel like we have an emotional connection. I do.

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I think that she definitely loves me out of the family.

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These dogs absolutely do love me.

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These dogs are like the children that I never had.

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She likes me.

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She loves Stuart and she has picked him as her person.

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I think he loves us a lot and he's attached to us.

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Currently it's a love-hate relationship.

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I think they like us. What do you think? Do you like me, dog?

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Yeah, you do? OK.

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A couple of small-scale studies have shown that when owners interact

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with their dogs,

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the human and the dog appear to release oxytocin.

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Cats and oxytocin release have never been studied

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so we designed an experiment to test cats versus dogs.

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Where's your puppy?

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Paul and vet Zara get a baseline measurement of the animal's oxytocin levels.

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We'll put them in a room with their owners.

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Let's go see John.

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Allow them to play in any way that they normally do.

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The owners now have ten minutes to stroke and make a fuss over their beloved pets.

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They said you're a good boy.

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After which it's time to measure their oxytocin levels again.

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We'll take another sample from the animal

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and we'll look at the change from baseline on oxytocin.

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Paul prepares the samples to be sent off to the lab for analysis.

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So this is the plasma, oxytocin lives in here

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and in two weeks after we analyse it, we'll find out

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how much oxytocin went up after this animal played with its owner

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and that will tell us how much dogs and cats love their owners.

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What can I say, this is the moment of truth and I'm very pleased

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to say that Paul Zak has come all the way from California.

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-Thanks for coming over.

-Right.

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-I'm excited about this. I know you are too.

-OK.

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-Will we start with dogs?

-Let's start with dogs.

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In our survey we asked our dog and cat owners

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whether they thought that their dogs loved them or not.

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Now 3% said no,

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and a whopping 94% of people, like myself,

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are convinced that their dogs love them.

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But Paul, what did the oxytocin tell us?

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So the science supports the survey. It does?

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We found an average increase in oxytocin

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when dogs played with their owners of 57.2%.

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Does that mean that the dogs genuinely love us?

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Probably. We really don't know what love feels like to dogs.

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But at least the physiology that mammals have for love

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is being stimulated when these dogs play with their owners.

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So we have pretty good evidence that dogs actually love their humans.

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-What about that? Dogs love us.

-Your dogs love you, Chris.

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Oh, well, I... I knew.

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Enough about you. It's not all about you.

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-Can we...

-You can try and trump it, if you like.

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Could we now talk about the cats?

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Our survey said that

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22% of you thought,

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"No, my cat doesn't love me."

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66% of you, though, thought that your cats did indeed love you.

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Paul, what did you get with your oxytocin results?

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-So this is a first scientific study...

-Ever?

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..of oxytocin in cats.

0:56:300:56:32

So very exciting.

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-Only ten cats, so the results are preliminary.

-Mm-hm.

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We find an average increase in oxytocin of 12%.

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OK, so that's an increase. I know what you're going to say.

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They don't love their owners as much as dogs but they DO love them.

0:56:430:56:46

Hang on a second.

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Can we actually say that just because the increase in oxytocin isn't quite as high

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as that in dogs, that they don't love their owners as much?

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It's a very small sample so it's got to be replicated.

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In addition, cats are territorial and we put them

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in my laboratory, which is an unusual setting for them.

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But they produced oxytocin.

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That's really quite extraordinary.

0:57:050:57:08

That's right. The first time we've seen this in science.

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So it means, at least for now, cats at least, some of the time,

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seem to really bond to their owners.

0:57:140:57:15

Well, thank you so much. Fascinating stuff.

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It's remarkable. Thank you.

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I don't know about you but that, for me, confirms that

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cats are capable of forming very strong bonds with their owners.

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That's pretty extraordinary.

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It's pretty extraordinary but...

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-Dogs love us more.

-Stop it.

0:57:280:57:30

Just stop it.

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Yes, the score's 4-3,

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making dogs our overall champions tonight.

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And there you have it.

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Two shows, two pets and a lot of new science.

0:57:420:57:47

Tonight the dogs have romped ahead.

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They really are man's best friend.

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But last time, cats reached new heights with their superior

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senses and athletic abilities.

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When all's said and done,

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they're both remarkable animals

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and which would make the best pet

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is, in fact, not down to them, it's down to you.

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It's down to your personality, your lifestyle.

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But one thing's for sure, the more you put into that pet,

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the more you love it, the greater chance there is you'll find

0:58:130:58:16

yourself the perfect friend, the perfect companion.

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And many happy, stress-busted years with a loving pet.

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I say get one of each, actually.

0:58:230:58:25

-One of each?!

-Yeah.

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-I'm not sure about that.

-Goodbye.

-Bye.

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