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Unmistakable. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
One of the most famous skylines in Wales - | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
a view that has been captured on film countless times, | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
a landscape that speaks of Wales' rich industrial heritage. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:20 | |
I have been right inside the heart of it today and it's | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
like being in the most beautiful place I've ever been. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:31 | |
But the steel works is under threat, | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
with hundreds of jobs already lost. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:39 | |
I've just been made redundant. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:44 | |
Tell you what I'll do. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
There you go, there's my life over. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:53 | |
There is a question mark hanging over the future of steel-making | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
in Port Talbot, and indeed across Wales and most of the UK. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:03 | |
It does feel like your whole world is collapsing around you | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
and there's nothing you can do. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
Watching the despair on my husband's face. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:17 | |
But it's this living in limbo at the moment, that's the killer. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:23 | |
I've been following the fate of the steel works for months - | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
meeting workers and those affected in the wider community. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:30 | |
What's the atmosphere been like over the last few months? | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
It's been pretty bad. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:34 | |
Businesses along here are exceptionally worried. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
So how did it get to this | 0:01:37 | 0:01:39 | |
and what can be done to help save it? | 0:01:39 | 0:01:44 | |
I was brought up in this town. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
I know what it means for the steelworks to be | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
right there at the heart of all your comings and goings. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
The two feed off each other - | 0:01:52 | 0:01:53 | |
the steelworks is the town and the town is the steelworks. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:57 | |
I can't imagine what life would be like here without it. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
Port Talbot, south Wales. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
Home to 37,000 people and Britain's largest steel works, | 0:02:18 | 0:02:23 | |
employing more than 4,000. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:31 | |
Anyone who's grown up in Port Talbot has grown up with the steelworks. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:36 | |
The light that never goes out, | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
the cloud that billows out from the chimneys and stacks. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
In fact, when I was a boy I thought that's where clouds came from. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
It was quite a frightening place during the day - | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
dark and malevolent. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:48 | |
But at night-time it was a comfort of a place. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
You could see it from the hills and the mountains around. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
All the lights, the flames. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
So it's a complicated relationship - it was frightening, | 0:02:57 | 0:03:02 | |
it was comforting, it put food on the families' tables | 0:03:02 | 0:03:07 | |
but it also exacted a high price at times. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:13 | |
It's like the north star for the town. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
So many families' lives revolve around its axis. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
And there are not many families in this town who are not connected | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
in some way by family members working there, | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
or having worked there, including my own. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
Well, the first person was your grandfather, Ivor Thomas. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
He went into the steel company. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
Do you know what he did in there? | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
Well, they maintained the furnaces. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
So he'd come home sometimes with no eyebrows, no eyelashes. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
Blister on the end of his nose. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:55 | |
And then you worked there. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
I worked in the drawing office. | 0:03:57 | 0:03:58 | |
I was a junior secretary. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
I worked there for about 18 months until we got married in 1961. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:05 | |
Dad, you worked as part of the supply chain? | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
Yeah, that's right - in the supply chain. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
I was working for a mechanical engineering company, | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
specialist company, and we did works for Port Talbot Steel, | 0:04:13 | 0:04:19 | |
which was the Abbey Works then. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
So our family is fairly typical? | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
The whole of the town, the whole of the community | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
is connected to the steel works, either directly or indirectly? | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
Yes. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:30 | |
Oh, yes. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:31 | |
Every household, practically. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:32 | |
And everyone wanted their sons and daughters to get jobs in there. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
Because then it was considered a job for life. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:43 | |
Steel-making has never been an easy way to eke out a living, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
with searing temperatures and danger lurking everywhere. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:55 | |
But more recently, the workforce here has faced new challenges - | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
an industry which has been losing millions and millions of pounds, | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
an industry struggling to cope with global competition, | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
an industry in crisis. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:12 | |
Then, in January, the first hammer blow to the steelworks. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
Tata has confirmed it's shedding another 1,050 jobs | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
in a fresh blow to the beleaguered steel industry. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:25 | |
The news that 750 of those jobs will be lost here. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
Unions have accused ministers of not doing enough | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
to protect the industry from cheap Chinese imports. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:35 | |
Owners Tata said the action was necessary | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
for the survival of the business. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
It's the middle of February, and, as the news begins to sink in, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
a group of steelworkers gather at a local rugby club, | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
where they've agreed to meet me. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:54 | |
How long have you been in the steelworks? | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
I started my apprenticeship coming on ten years ago now. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
Did a four-year apprenticeship, then, in the cold mill. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:04 | |
Since you started ten years ago, has there always been | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
worries about the situation at the steelworks? | 0:06:06 | 0:06:11 | |
Yeah, I think this time everyone realises it's a lot | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
more serious than we've had before, like. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
I think a genuine concern now for all our future. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
There's up to 12,000 contract workers there moving | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
throughout Port Talbot and Llanwern and other places, | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
so there's a lot of people directly involved. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
But if anything happened to the works, within the community, | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
you've got all the businesses that are reliant on the wages | 0:06:32 | 0:06:34 | |
coming from there into the community, you know. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
What's the kind of atmosphere like now with so much insecurity? | 0:06:37 | 0:06:44 | |
It's quite low. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
Everyone's very depressed - waiting. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
Down in the dumps. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:50 | |
The atmosphere is quite poor. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
At the moment, nobody knows who's gonna be staying and who's going? | 0:06:53 | 0:06:58 | |
If it does happen, if we are the unfortunate ones, | 0:06:58 | 0:07:00 | |
at the end of the day, you've got to have some sort | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
of living and go where the money is. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
It's sad what we're all going through and I think, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
without choking up here, it's a reality. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:17 | |
There's nothing else out there for us youngsters. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
If I lost my job, I dunno what I'd do. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
The only thing I have ever known, my family for generations - | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
my uncles, brother, all work there - | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
I dunno what else I would do. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
It's all I have done, is steel. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
It's really worrying for us. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
Two of the workers - father and son Nigel and Scott - | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
All | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
invite us back to their home. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:42 | |
They live in Portardawe. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
The Bowdens are a proud steel-making family - | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
90-year-old Cyril, Scott, 28, and Nigel, 54. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:56 | |
I remember the first day in the works, walking | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
in and all the big machinery and all the cranes going overhead. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
It was quite frightening. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
Nigel and Julie were married in 1984 - six years | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
after he joined the steelworks. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:16 | |
Can you see the steel works over there? | 0:08:16 | 0:08:20 | |
All the smoke coming out? | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
Scott followed in his family's footsteps, and got a job | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
at Port Talbot when his son Thomas was one year old. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:32 | |
Would you like to work there one day? | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
Yeah? | 0:08:34 | 0:08:35 | |
Between them, Scott, Nigel and Cyril have clocked up | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
77 years in the steel industry. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:41 | |
I can't see it closing entirely. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:42 | |
I just can't see that at Port Talbot. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
If it did, it would be desolate, wouldn't it? | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
Obviously. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:49 | |
Scott and Nigel now have to wait until March to find out | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
if they are one of the 750 | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
who will be losing their jobs from Port Talbot. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
I just turned 54 last month, so if I was made redundant now | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
I wouldn't be able to access my pension till I'm 65. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:06 | |
So I'd have to last 11 years with no income, | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
just a redundancy payment, whatever that's going to be. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
So it's a big worry for me at the moment, in that respect. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
But I'm also concerned for the likes of Scott. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
Obviously I've got to support my partner, my son, | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
so I'd hopefully get another job what I'm paid now. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
So, whether that means moving away I don't know. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
Hopefully not - all my family's here. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:35 | |
Father and son pitted against each other. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:39 | |
So you're back in tonight, are you? | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
I'm back in tonight, yeah, doing a two-day shift. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
They work in the same area of the steel works and will be | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
scored against one another, and their colleagues, | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
to determine who stays and who goes. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:54 | |
I could have a job and my dad could not have a job. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
I would prefer that my dad had a job and I would leave | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
because he's only got a year left and his retirement, | 0:10:01 | 0:10:05 | |
I'm young enough to find hopefully another job | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
and start another career. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:11 | |
But where, but where? | 0:10:11 | 0:10:16 | |
Workers - and their unions - have started to fight back. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
The campaign to save the steelworks has begun. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:26 | |
Save our steel industry. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
Today, they're out in Port Talbot seeking support | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
for the plant, and the fear of job losses is never far away. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:36 | |
It's at the back of people's minds all the time, at home. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
Family and friends are asking you, Have you heard anything, | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
have you heard anything? | 0:10:41 | 0:10:42 | |
It's that waiting game now for the next few weeks. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:48 | |
It's not just workers like Chris affected by this, | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
the whole of the town is. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
When the steelworks goes through a difficult time, | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
the community feels its pain. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:01 | |
There's always been that close relationship. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:11 | |
The Chancellor of the Exchequer Mr Gaitskill | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
had come here to Port Talbot in Glamorgan | 0:11:14 | 0:11:16 | |
to set into motion with the flick of a lever | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
the latest addition to the Abbey steelworks at Margam - | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
the largest plant of its kind in Europe. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
Port Talbot steelworks was originally called | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
the Abbey Works, and was opened in its current form in 1951. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:32 | |
The Abbey Works was not just of local or Welsh significance, | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
it was a part of Britain's programme | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
of reconstruction of its economy after the war. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
There was a big consumer boom in the 1950s. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
People wanted to make cars and domestic appliances, | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
so demand for sheet steel was going through the roof. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:52 | |
The '50s and '60s in Port Talbot were years of real prosperity. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
It was renowned as somewhere which had a casino, | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
it had social clubs. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:02 | |
The first casino in industrial Britain was opened in Port Talbot. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
Here the steelworkers are the best paid in Britain. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:09 | |
They live high in a style not normally associated with the Welsh. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
Their music also sung by a Welshman, Tom Jones... | 0:12:12 | 0:12:17 | |
I think for a while it had Wales' only 50-metre pool, you know. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
There were facilities there you didn't get elsewhere. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:31 | |
At its height, the workforce numbered 20,000. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
Today, it's only a fifth of that. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:39 | |
You do sometimes feel as though Britain's traditional industries | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
are slightly forgotten and nobody really cares anymore | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
whether we make steel or not. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
Well, the people do still think it's important | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
that Britain manufacturers steel | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
and they recognise how bound up with that industry | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
a community like Port Talbot is. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:59 | |
In the words of the king, | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
this plant will make a valuable contribution to our ability | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
to maintain our historic position in a free world. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:13 | |
Growing up, the steelworks played a huge part in my life - | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
always there in the background. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:21 | |
But I've never been inside before, until now. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
Tata have agreed to let me in to see for myself how Welsh steel is made. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:32 | |
Yet another personal tie to the steelworks for me. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
David and I grew up together. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
That is around about 1,200 degree-ish. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:45 | |
Wow. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:46 | |
Just to see the size of it in there then. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:53 | |
It's gonna keep on reducing the thickness now. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
As that gets thinner and thinner, it gets longer and longer | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
ready for the next part of the process. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
That looks incredible. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
It just looks like something out of another | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
world, or something. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
Oh, here we go. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:32 | |
It's incredible to see this process going on. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:38 | |
It's such a visceral process to watch it happening. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:43 | |
You've got massive temperatures, huge noise, vast machinery | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
moving and turning. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
Water and oil, fire - all the elements. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:52 | |
It's incredibly impressive. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:56 | |
Of course, steel is made the world over now, and it's that global | 0:14:59 | 0:15:04 | |
competition which has contributed to the crisis in British steel - | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
a problem the industry has been highlighting for months. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:11 | |
We face costs that our competitors don't face, | 0:15:11 | 0:15:16 | |
and that is a result of Government | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
policy over the years piling on those costs, | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
but also the rapid rise in Chinese exports of steel that | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
floods the UK market, the European market and the global | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
market, and what that does to the global price of steel. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:36 | |
So for the last 15 years we have been warning UK governments, | 0:15:36 | 0:15:44 | |
a series of governments, that policy that it is developing | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
is going to increase costs to us. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:48 | |
And it's those increased costs which are being | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
felt most keenly here. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:56 | |
So, we're heading off towards the harbour, are we? | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
We're going down to the heavy end | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
now, with the harbour, blast furnace area. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
Cos all this kind of piping and ducts, this | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
is what in Port Talbot we've grown up with seeing all the time. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:17 | |
So being in here and seeing it for the first time at my ripe | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
old age is quite something. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:25 | |
The boats wait out there until they're ready to come in. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
Come into the harbour. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
They get offloaded by one of the unloaders. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:37 | |
So that's the raw material coming off there, | 0:16:37 | 0:16:47 | |
coming along that conveyor belt and taken along | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
to the coke ovens. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
That's right. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
I've been invited to meet steelworker Graham Rowland, | 0:16:55 | 0:16:57 | |
who's been cataloguing the history of the works. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:01 | |
They were smelting on here during the 12th century, | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
which is quite unique. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
This is the only steelworks in the world, I would say, | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
that goes back that far. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
That still has a steelworks on it. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:10 | |
So, in the 12th century there were monks... | 0:17:10 | 0:17:14 | |
Monks smelting here. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:15 | |
Is that the Abbey Wall? | 0:17:15 | 0:17:21 | |
Yes. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:22 | |
The myth is if the wall falls down the works closes. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
Right. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:26 | |
So there's about 20 steelworkers standing around it | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
constantly at the moment. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
Funnily enough we do a little work every now | 0:17:30 | 0:17:36 | |
and again to make sure it stays... | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
Just to make sure. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:46 | |
You should get a good view of the blast furnace now, | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
tapping off hopefully. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
That's the iron now being produced going into the torpedo. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
Just coming out of the blast furnace going into the torp. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:59 | |
I've grown up in the town and had a relationship | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
with the steelworks at a distance. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
So to be actually inside is like being in the heart of the town | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
and everything I have come to find beautiful, which is the beauty | 0:18:09 | 0:18:16 | |
of heavy industry, I have been right inside the heart of it today, | 0:18:16 | 0:18:20 | |
and so it's like being in the most beautiful place I've ever been. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
And the other thing is, walking around and meeting | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
the people working in here, you can tell there is a real sense | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
of massive pride about the work they are doing and a real sense | 0:18:28 | 0:18:37 | |
of family about the people here, you get a real sense | 0:18:37 | 0:18:43 | |
of that camaraderie here and the fierce pride | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
in what they are doing. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:47 | |
We are outside this blast furnace and this is the very heart | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
of the British steel industry, what is going on in there. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
It's been an overwhelming experience, really, to be here. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
It's mid-March, and it's D-Day for many of the workers here. | 0:18:54 | 0:19:01 | |
Two months ago, the bombshell dropped that 750 jobs would have | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
to be lost from the steelworks. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
And right at this very moment, inside there, individuals | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
are learning their fate. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
If they do, or don't, have a job working for Tata steel. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:16 | |
This is a week that will shape the lives of many families in Port | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
Talbot and the surrounding area. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:24 | |
In Pontardawe, it's been an anxious wait for the Bowden family. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:32 | |
Today, Nigel and Scott learn their fate at Tata. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
Today you were both finding out about the status | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
of your jobs at the steelworks, so what's the news? | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
Thankfully I'm safe. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
I heard this morning. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
Went down to the steelworks about 20 past nine. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
And it was literally within 30 seconds it was all done. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
It's the waiting, the waiting's over now. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
What about you, Nigel? | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
Fortunately, I'm safe as well, so we're both | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
still in the same department. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
What's the feeling about the overall picture for the steelworks? | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
I think people are still very disappointed | 0:20:04 | 0:20:08 | |
in the fact that there's nothing seems to be done | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
to help the industry. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
If the Government don't do something to help the steel industry soon, | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
then I don't know how long this will last. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
I've been there 38 years now and I've never felt | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
as insecure as I do now. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:26 | |
Even having had the letter to say I've still got a job. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
Nigel and Scott are safe - for now. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
But other workers have not been so fortunate. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
Taking time out from campaigning for the steel industry, | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
Chris James has also been learning his fate. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
I try to be positive during the day but it's caused me some sleepless | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
nights at the moment. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:49 | |
As soon as I see it, it makes me think about work, | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
makes me think about the uncertainty, the future. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
What does the future hold? | 0:20:54 | 0:20:55 | |
That's the big question at the moment. | 0:20:55 | 0:21:01 | |
Chris has only been employed by Tata for just over a year - | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
he previously served in the Navy. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:13 | |
This is my medal from Sierra Leone and this is my medal being involved | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
in the Afghanistan conflict. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:22 | |
I did 15 years in the Navy but no medals after 13 years and I got | 0:21:22 | 0:21:26 | |
three medals in the last two years in service. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
In January, Chris's job in the BoS plant, | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
where iron is made into steel, went - and he was moved | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
to another department. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:34 | |
But in March he went through the same selection | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
process as Nigel, Scott and everyone else at the works. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:44 | |
Basically says "I regret to inform you that from the selection process | 0:21:44 | 0:21:48 | |
you remain at risk of redundancy, and obviously your figures..." | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
Well, because I haven't been there that long I got the fantastic | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
figure of 0.00, my redundancy money if I was to leave. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
I actually got called in a different door, | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
which pretty much assumed then was bad news. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
I was expecting it, it wasn't a shock, but nonetheless having it | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
there put in front of you is gutting. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
It really is. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:08 | |
The steelworks sustains thousands of families | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
in this area and beyond. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:15 | |
I'm going to meet an expert who can tell me how that impact | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
is felt right across Wales. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:22 | |
What would you say is the significance of it | 0:22:22 | 0:22:26 | |
for the Welsh economy today? | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
The first thing is there aren't many jobs like steel left. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:33 | |
Somewhere like Tata will pay everybody double the minimum wage. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
And every one of those workers will be making hundreds | 0:22:36 | 0:22:43 | |
of thousands of pounds' worth of steel. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
For every single job within Tata, there was another job and a quarter | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
throughout the rest of the Welsh economy. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
That's a very, very high number in terms of supply chains, | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
the wage spending of those workers. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
So with 750 jobs going from here - at Tata, in Port Talbot - what do | 0:22:55 | 0:23:00 | |
you imagine the impact will be for Port Talbot and south Wales? | 0:23:00 | 0:23:06 | |
The first thing is you will lose significant wages in the local | 0:23:06 | 0:23:15 | |
economy, both in the supply chain for Tata itself | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
and in the businesses | 0:23:17 | 0:23:22 | |
supported by those wages - the plumbers, electricians, | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
coffee shops, hotels and so on. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:26 | |
There will be significant belt-tightening. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:28 | |
The problem now is there's a longer-term question | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
about confidence, and what places like Port Talbot will look | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
like in the longer term. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:33 | |
By the end of March, fears about the future | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
of Port Talbot were growing. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
It became clear that it wasn't just the fate of 750 jobs | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
which were at stake - it could be the entire future | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
of the steelworks at Port Talbot. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
It's been reportedly losing up to ?1 million a day. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
And there are fears that a rescue package could be | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
rejected by the Tata board. | 0:23:55 | 0:24:01 | |
Alan Coombs is packing to go to Mumbai, where Tata's | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
headquarters are based, to try to convince them | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
to accept a rescue package to save the steelworks. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
I'm going to go to Mumbai to speak to members of the board to ask them | 0:24:10 | 0:24:14 | |
to have faith in the plan that we put together in Port Talbot. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
Alan has worked in the steelworks since he was 16. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
He's now a union boss there. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:27 | |
What I'm hoping is that if people have a view and it's not | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
positive for Port Talbot, we can help change their minds | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
as well by having a presence there and them understanding that | 0:24:33 | 0:24:37 | |
there's families involved in this - not just this works that closes | 0:24:37 | 0:24:43 | |
and everything's going to carry on as normal, | 0:24:43 | 0:24:47 | |
because if you talk to people in Port Talbot I don't think there's | 0:24:47 | 0:24:51 | |
anybody thinking they'll carry on as normal if the works closes. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:56 | |
In India, Alan joins up with other union bosses and local MP | 0:24:56 | 0:25:01 | |
Stephen Kinnock to lobby the Tata board members ahead of the meeting. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:06 | |
They were very honest in how we'd performed up until now, | 0:25:06 | 0:25:10 | |
saying there's been a load of plans put forward over the years but never | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
really delivered on anything. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:15 | |
And there was a feeling that they'd given us enough | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
time and enough money. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:23 | |
Then the news that no-one in Port Talbot was expecting. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:28 | |
The top news story on 5 live this hour - Tata steel | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 | |
plans to sell its entire UK business, putting the jobs | 0:25:30 | 0:25:34 | |
of thousands of workers at risk, including 4,000 at Port Talbot. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
It's understood the Government hasn't ruled out direct | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
state involvement to try to save the British | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
arm of Tata steel. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:45 | |
Back in Pontardawe, the announcement has come | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
as a shock to Scott and Nigel. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:54 | |
The future of UK steel hangs in the balance... | 0:25:54 | 0:26:01 | |
I fear for the future now. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
Two weeks ago we found out we were safe, but that didn't last | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
very long, obviously. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:08 | |
It's obviously irrelevant now. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:09 | |
So just looking now... | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
It just doesn't look very bright, does it, | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
the future doesn't look bright. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:14 | |
It Tata can't turn it round, and they're a massive company, | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
you know, who's going to buy it? | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
I think if the Government do something and take | 0:26:19 | 0:26:29 | |
some steps with tariffs, energy costs, rates, perhaps invest | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
in a power plant down there, then it might be viable. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:37 | |
But without any help from the Government it's not. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
No. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:41 | |
It's been a roller-coaster couple of months for father and son Scott | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
and Nigel - and Alan too. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:46 | |
Back from Mumbai, he reflects on a tumultuous couple of days. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:51 | |
I try to put my own feelings on the back burner, so to speak, | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
but at the end of the day I'm the same as everybody else. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
I've got a mortgage, I've got three kids - you think, | 0:26:59 | 0:27:03 | |
what am I going to do? | 0:27:03 | 0:27:11 | |
Come home last night, lying on the bed, 12 o'clock, | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
and Isobel, my eldest girl, says, "What are you going to do for a job | 0:27:13 | 0:27:17 | |
now, Dad, if this closes?" | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
This news changed everything. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:20 | |
It was bad enough that 750 jobs were going to be lost | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
from the steelworks and from the local community, | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
but now the place is fighting for its very survival. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
Save our steel, save our steel. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:30 | |
The political heat is on. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:34 | |
Business Secretary Sajid Javid pays his first visit to Port Talbot, | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
after criticism he was in Australia | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
at the time of the crucial board meeting in Mumbai. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:44 | |
In your words, have we got... | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
Have we got an industry? | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
The industry is absolutely vital to the future | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
of the UK industrial sector. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:52 | |
Absolutely vital. | 0:27:52 | 0:28:02 | |
And it's not just Port Talbot up for sale. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
Tata's UK business includes smaller plants | 0:28:05 | 0:28:06 | |
in Llanwern, Llanelli and Shotton. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:11 | |
They're all under threat. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:12 | |
Within days, the Business Secretary pays another visit to Port Talbot. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:16 | |
This time he meets with union representatives. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:20 | |
It's a million miles away from where we've been | 0:28:20 | 0:28:22 | |
with the announcement of everything up for sale | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
and things looking pretty gloomy. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
Now we're trying to concentrate on the positive side of things | 0:28:27 | 0:28:29 | |
and hopefully now get a buyer in. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:33 | |
It's a bit of a roller-coaster ride at the moment. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
There's a lot of down and a lot of ups as well. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:42 | |
When your emotions are stretched so far in both directions, | 0:28:42 | 0:28:44 | |
it does become a bit difficult. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:48 | |
As we are filming outside the Port Talbot plant, | 0:28:48 | 0:28:50 | |
we are approached by a worker. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
I want you to give this to David Cameron | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
and tell him to wear it with pride, | 0:28:56 | 0:28:58 | |
because I can't - I've just been made redundant. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
Ten years of my life down the drain. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
How do I explain to my four children and my wife, | 0:29:03 | 0:29:06 | |
like, I no longer work? | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
How do you survive? | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
I'm 55 this week. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
But do you think someone's gonna give me | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
a job at the age of 55? | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
I dunno what the next step is in my life. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:24 | |
Tell you what I'll do - there you go, there's my life over. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:34 | |
Peter, who was a contractor at Tata for ten years driving large | 0:29:40 | 0:29:44 | |
industrial vehicles, invites us to his home in Neath. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:51 | |
These are my two daughters - Nicola and Kayla. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:58 | |
I have been made redundant today. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:00 | |
I don't know what to do now. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:07 | |
How we gonna run two cars and the...and the house? | 0:30:07 | 0:30:11 | |
Not only that... | 0:30:11 | 0:30:19 | |
Devastated. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:21 | |
But there we are, love. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
Never mind. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:33 | |
Everything's also changed for Chris and his wife Sian. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:37 | |
They both hoped he would be at the plant | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
for the rest of his working life. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
It does feel like your whole world is collapsing around you | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
and there's nothing you can do. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
Watching the despair on my husband's face, | 0:30:47 | 0:30:49 | |
knowing I can't do anything about it, | 0:30:49 | 0:30:52 | |
it leads then into questions - | 0:30:52 | 0:30:57 | |
him questioning himself, | 0:30:57 | 0:30:59 | |
questioning why he was de-selected, why him? | 0:30:59 | 0:31:04 | |
Chris is hoping there might be another job at the steelworks | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
he could be moved in to. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
But while he waits, he's been told | 0:31:10 | 0:31:12 | |
he finishes his employment with Tata at the end of May. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:14 | |
We can't plan anything at the moment, | 0:31:14 | 0:31:16 | |
that's the frustrating part as well. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:18 | |
So everything's just on hold. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
We were looking next year, hopefully, | 0:31:20 | 0:31:21 | |
or maybe later on this year getting a mortgage. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:23 | |
But that's just pie in the sky now. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:25 | |
I don't know when we'll be in a position like this ever again. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:30 | |
There are no good employers out there anymore | 0:31:30 | 0:31:32 | |
that pay a decent wage. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:34 | |
People can look at us and think, well, they're a young couple | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
who haven't got small children | 0:31:37 | 0:31:38 | |
so it's not going to impact on them that much. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:41 | |
Well, it will impact on us. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:44 | |
It's going to turn our lives upside down. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:48 | |
But it's this living in limbo at the moment, that's the killer. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:52 | |
Watching my husband killing himself every day, | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
fighting to save an industry that he may not be part of. | 0:31:55 | 0:32:04 | |
Tata directly employs 4,100 people at its Port Talbot | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
site, and thousands more are employed as contractors. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:16 | |
But its influence can be felt beyond the gates | 0:32:16 | 0:32:18 | |
and in the very heart of the town. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:25 | |
So where are you going next year? | 0:32:25 | 0:32:27 | |
Don't know. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:29 | |
Can I get a coffee please? | 0:32:29 | 0:32:31 | |
Cappuccino? | 0:32:31 | 0:32:32 | |
Latte? | 0:32:32 | 0:32:33 | |
Latte please. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:34 | |
Business is down, definitely down. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:36 | |
Particularly the take-away aspect of the business. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
We get a lot of people coming to the back door... | 0:32:39 | 0:32:41 | |
Which is steelworkers basically. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:48 | |
People are afraid. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
They're going to start cutting down. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
What's the atmosphere been like over the last few months? | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
It's been pretty bad. | 0:32:57 | 0:32:58 | |
Businesses along here are exceptionally worried. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
Myself, because of the business and my husband's job - | 0:33:00 | 0:33:04 | |
he's in the works. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:06 | |
He works in the works. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:08 | |
For me it's two incomes lost. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:10 | |
Yeah. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:15 | |
Has your family got connections with the steel works? | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
Yeah, they've been in there since 1908. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
My great-great-grandfather started in there, his son, | 0:33:21 | 0:33:25 | |
my great grandfather. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:27 | |
My father's in there and my uncle. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:32 | |
They're in there now. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:36 | |
Yeah, and I nearly went in there. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:38 | |
But to be honest with you it's lucky I didn't, | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
the way it's going in there. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:47 | |
A lot of customers are worried about their jobs - | 0:33:47 | 0:33:49 | |
a heck of a lot of customers. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:51 | |
What are the sort of different feelings | 0:33:51 | 0:33:53 | |
that you've heard people expressing? | 0:33:53 | 0:33:54 | |
There's a lot of uncertainty. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
If that goes, it's the town going. | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
It literally built the town. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
It built the Sandfields estate, it's built all the surrounding areas. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:06 | |
A massive amount of people living and working in the town | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
work in there and rely on it. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:15 | |
Most people in the town, | 0:34:15 | 0:34:16 | |
if they don't actually work in the steelworks themselves, | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
have a relative, or a friend or a neighbour | 0:34:19 | 0:34:21 | |
who has some kind of connection to it. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:31 | |
But it doesn't just provide jobs here, | 0:34:31 | 0:34:33 | |
it is part of the very essence, the fabric of the town. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
It's what makes Port Talbot. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:37 | |
And it has done for generations. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:38 | |
THEY SHOUT | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
Aberafon Rugby Club are involved in a schools' rugby | 0:34:40 | 0:34:42 | |
and football league in the area, | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
which has support from the steelmakers. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:51 | |
This club was established in 1876, | 0:34:51 | 0:34:52 | |
and it's formerly with British Steel, Corus, | 0:34:52 | 0:34:55 | |
Tata - they've always been here. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
They've always been a fundamental part of the town. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
Tata - along with both Corus and British Steel before it - | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
have a close relationship with the local community. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:07 | |
Their workers do charity work in the area, the company supports | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
the elderly and they sponsor football and rugby teams. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:16 | |
Thankfully, for Tata Steel, | 0:35:16 | 0:35:17 | |
they provided every single primary school in Port Talbot with kit - | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
rugby and netball kit. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
Boys, we're still tackling up here. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:25 | |
So now, all the children have got beautiful kit | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
which they designed themselves. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:29 | |
And, without Tata Steel, we just wouldn't be able to run | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
and provide these children with these opportunities. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:33 | |
WHISTLE BLOWS | 0:35:33 | 0:35:37 | |
Looking around the ground here, 60-70% of the businesses involved | 0:35:37 | 0:35:39 | |
with the rugby club are customers of Tata Steel, and that's how big | 0:35:39 | 0:35:43 | |
the involvement is with these organisations in the area. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:49 | |
The club's always had players from that working community. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:54 | |
Club captain Ian Moore is one of six rugby players | 0:35:54 | 0:35:56 | |
who work at the steelworks. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
But he doesn't know for how much longer. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
It's horrible, innit? | 0:36:02 | 0:36:03 | |
You don't know your future. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:05 | |
I'm in my mid-30s, got a house, two young children. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
It's a frightening time for everyone. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:11 | |
It's your livelihood, at the end of the day. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:13 | |
If that place closes, | 0:36:13 | 0:36:14 | |
basically Port Talbot would be a ghost town. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:21 | |
The local community is also getting behind the campaign | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
to save the steelworks. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:24 | |
Save our steel. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:28 | |
Today, Alan's watching his daughter play football. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
Call 'em, Mill! | 0:36:31 | 0:36:38 | |
I think he's doing a good job like trying to like save it | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
and he's been going to like loads of like meetings | 0:36:41 | 0:36:45 | |
in London and stuff. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:49 | |
We'd like to go on holidays this summer but we don't know | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
if we can cos he's away and trying to save Tata Steel. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:59 | |
It's the beginning of April, and Alan and his fellow workers | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
are doing their best to keep their campaign | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
in the public eye. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
When we walk around the pitch today with a banner, | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
I'm gonna be proud to be a part of it. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:10 | |
I'm really looking forward to it. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:14 | |
Swansea City are allowing us to go round the pitch | 0:37:14 | 0:37:16 | |
with our Save Our Steel banner. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:18 | |
We are very grateful and hopefully the crowd will support us as well. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:22 | |
Please welcome representatives of the steel industry. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
It was amazing, hairs on the back of your neck standing up. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
It was emotional walking out onto the pitch | 0:37:35 | 0:37:38 | |
with a standing ovation from the Swansea supporters | 0:37:38 | 0:37:39 | |
and Chelsea supporters. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:43 | |
The policeman, all the players ground staff wishing us well, | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
clapping us. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:48 | |
It was absolutely amazing - can't thank them enough. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
Really shows spirit, and the community is on our side. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:53 | |
Just pushes us now ready for Monday, back into work, | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
and keep the fight going. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:57 | |
Gives us a lift. | 0:37:57 | 0:37:58 | |
Unbelievable. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:06 | |
The threat of the steelworks closing is a very real concern for people | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
who live around here, | 0:38:09 | 0:38:11 | |
but potential saviours have begun to emerge. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:21 | |
The first to declare an interest was Liberty Steel, | 0:38:21 | 0:38:25 | |
which has a base in Newport. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:26 | |
The boss is Sanjeev Gupta, who had admitted | 0:38:26 | 0:38:28 | |
his plans to take over Tata were written on the back of an envelope. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:32 | |
But he's now a serious contender. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
I have spent the last few weeks endlessly working at this. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
I am literally doing nothing else. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
We work 16-18 hours every single day. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
We have amassed an amazing team, both internally and externally. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:46 | |
And we have been working very, very, very hard. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:50 | |
At that stage, Mr Gupta's plans did not include | 0:38:50 | 0:38:52 | |
the iconic blast furnaces at Port Talbot. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:56 | |
They would be replaced with electric arc furnaces, | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
which use scrap steel. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
He insisted jobs wouldn't be lost as a result. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:06 | |
An arc furnace process, or scrap processing furnace, | 0:39:06 | 0:39:09 | |
is actually more job intensive than a blast furnace. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:11 | |
Because a blast furnace, if you can imagine, | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
is fairly automated. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:16 | |
Whereas in scrap processing there is a lot of manual element. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
It's at least the same number of jobs, generally speaking. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:22 | |
Oh, excellent. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:27 | |
Thank you very much indeed. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:28 | |
Appreciate your help. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:29 | |
Thanks Emma, bye-bye. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:32 | |
But Alan is hoping that the successful buyer | 0:39:32 | 0:39:34 | |
will keep the blast furnaces, and steel making, at Port Talbot. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:40 | |
When you get people like Liberty saying about arc furnaces and that, | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
I can understand where they're coming from, | 0:39:43 | 0:39:45 | |
but they need to look at the bigger picture | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
and they need to understand more about the process | 0:39:47 | 0:39:49 | |
and more about what the opportunities are. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:52 | |
So never say never, you don't know. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:56 | |
To be here in any shape and form would be a plus. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:59 | |
But obviously everybody wants it to be exactly the same as it is now. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:06 | |
Alan's off to meet with the head of Tata at Port Talbot | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
to discuss a proposed management buyout. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
Within days, it's confirmed that local businessmen | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
are backing this proposal, led by Tata boss Stuart Wilkie. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:20 | |
We have a very good plan, a plan that consists of 680 elements, | 0:40:20 | 0:40:24 | |
fully backed by the trade unions, the workforce | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
and the management within the business. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:31 | |
It's essentially the same plan | 0:40:31 | 0:40:32 | |
rejected by the board of Tata in Mumbai at the end of March. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:40 | |
Steelworkers Scott and Nigel, with their partners Lisa and Julie, | 0:40:40 | 0:40:43 | |
are unclear if they are being asked to invest in the plan. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:49 | |
There's rumours going about ?10,000 each, | 0:40:49 | 0:40:50 | |
but some people can't afford ?10,000. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:54 | |
No, of course they can't. | 0:40:54 | 0:41:03 | |
Do you feel like there's any more security then | 0:41:07 | 0:41:09 | |
or do people feel that they're going to have a job | 0:41:09 | 0:41:12 | |
at the end of the day? | 0:41:12 | 0:41:13 | |
More optimistic. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:17 | |
And even if they do, there might be redundancies anyway. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:20 | |
Might be, yes, there might be more redundancies. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:22 | |
People's more optimistic there now that something could happen. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:24 | |
The UK Government said it would be willing to take a 25% stake in any | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
rescue of Tata's UK operations. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:31 | |
And the Welsh Government has pledged ?60 million. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:36 | |
So, what can the Welsh Government actually do to help? | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
What we've put on the table is a package. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:41 | |
A commercial loan to convert one of the lines. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
Another ?30 million on top for the... | 0:41:44 | 0:41:51 | |
another lot of ?30 million for environmental improvements | 0:41:51 | 0:41:52 | |
which help with reducing costs. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
And more money for skills and training as well. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:56 | |
Now one of the things we're looking at is, | 0:41:56 | 0:41:58 | |
could we do more helping with business rates? | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
Why is that not something you've felt you couldn't do already? | 0:42:00 | 0:42:02 | |
Well, we control business rates | 0:42:02 | 0:42:04 | |
but there's been historically a limit to what we can do | 0:42:04 | 0:42:06 | |
in terms of competition rules | 0:42:06 | 0:42:08 | |
as to how much business relief we can give. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:10 | |
We are looking at whether there are different ways | 0:42:10 | 0:42:12 | |
of delivering that. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:13 | |
So, both governments have now put forward offers | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
of support for a new buyer. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
The Westminster government has also announced measures aimed at helping | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
the industry here - such as cutting energy costs and promising | 0:42:22 | 0:42:24 | |
to buy British. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:31 | |
If I could call you all to order. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:33 | |
There are also more details emerging of the planned management buyout. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:38 | |
Lots to discuss at a meeting of union reps. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:40 | |
Today has changed a lot. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:41 | |
This meeting was planned two weeks ago. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:43 | |
Just to give an update. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:44 | |
Obviously with news today coming from government there's a lot more | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
to talk about than we thought we were going to talk about, | 0:42:47 | 0:42:50 | |
to be honest with you. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:54 | |
There was a lot more positivity than we normally have. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:57 | |
But the reality is there's still a lot of work to do, | 0:42:57 | 0:43:00 | |
with people losing their jobs through redundancies. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:01 | |
So that, rightly so, takes priority over everything. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:05 | |
People are a lot more settled than they were. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:07 | |
So that's got to be good going forward. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
The fight to save the steelworks goes on - but it's | 0:43:11 | 0:43:17 | |
too late for Peter. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:20 | |
This is my P45 - that's it now, I'm officially unemployed. | 0:43:20 | 0:43:28 | |
Unemployed, mate. | 0:43:28 | 0:43:31 | |
Never been unemployed. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:33 | |
First time. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:37 | |
Shocking, innit? | 0:43:37 | 0:43:43 | |
Right, where do I go from here? | 0:43:43 | 0:43:45 | |
Kaelagh? | 0:43:49 | 0:43:51 | |
Can you come down here and help me with this CV, love? | 0:43:51 | 0:44:03 | |
Ten years in the steelworks. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:06 | |
Before that I worked in Morrisons for two years. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:11 | |
Before that I was a househusband bringing you up for five years. | 0:44:11 | 0:44:16 | |
Before that I worked in Sony for ten years. | 0:44:16 | 0:44:19 | |
Because I'm a driver, a plant driver, that's what I do. | 0:44:19 | 0:44:26 | |
I drive plant and I use machines. | 0:44:26 | 0:44:28 | |
They'll probably want to know what I done in the steelworks. | 0:44:28 | 0:44:31 | |
I got all these licences. | 0:44:31 | 0:44:32 | |
I suppose that will be something to put on there. | 0:44:32 | 0:44:34 | |
But Peter's licences are no good to him. | 0:44:34 | 0:44:37 | |
They cannot be used outside the steelworks. | 0:44:37 | 0:44:42 | |
You can't live your life dwelling on the past. | 0:44:50 | 0:44:54 | |
You gotta move forward, and the sooner I get these licences | 0:44:54 | 0:44:57 | |
the quicker I can get a job, the quicker I can move forward, | 0:44:57 | 0:45:00 | |
for the sake of me and my family. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:02 | |
Hello, how can I help you? | 0:45:02 | 0:45:05 | |
I got an appointment with John. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:06 | |
OK. | 0:45:06 | 0:45:09 | |
If you take a seat just there I'll let him know that you're here. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:12 | |
Hi, Peter. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:18 | |
Hi, John. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:19 | |
Hi, would you like to join me? | 0:45:19 | 0:45:21 | |
Yeah, brilliant. | 0:45:21 | 0:45:29 | |
He's offered me ?1,500 for various licences, | 0:45:29 | 0:45:32 | |
so I can get three or four licences out of that. | 0:45:32 | 0:45:38 | |
And I was quite surprised that the tickets only take a fortnight. | 0:45:38 | 0:45:41 | |
So, I could be in work within a month. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:43 | |
Yes. | 0:45:43 | 0:45:51 | |
For every story like Peter's there are dozens and dozens more. | 0:45:51 | 0:45:57 | |
There are businesses the length and breadth of south Wales | 0:45:57 | 0:45:59 | |
who rely on the steel plant. | 0:45:59 | 0:46:05 | |
There's something like 90, 100 suppliers to Fairwood Fabrications | 0:46:05 | 0:46:09 | |
throughout south Wales, from Newport to Carmarthen. | 0:46:09 | 0:46:19 | |
They are being affected now in their turnover and the business | 0:46:20 | 0:46:23 | |
they are doing with us. | 0:46:23 | 0:46:24 | |
It's having a huge effect. | 0:46:24 | 0:46:25 | |
Fairwood Fabrications was set up by the current chairman's father. | 0:46:25 | 0:46:27 | |
The business started 37 years ago. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:30 | |
He took his redundancy from what was then Corus and built it up | 0:46:30 | 0:46:33 | |
from there over 37 years. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:35 | |
Up until last December, 80% of the company's | 0:46:35 | 0:46:37 | |
business was with Tata. | 0:46:37 | 0:46:41 | |
We would have between 200 and 250 personnel working for Fairwoods - | 0:46:41 | 0:46:49 | |
the majority of those, 200-plus on site, they would be | 0:46:49 | 0:46:54 | |
on the contract labour, 200-plus on site, they would be | 0:46:54 | 0:46:56 | |
which was maintenance. | 0:46:56 | 0:46:58 | |
Basically, giving them a 24/7 service. | 0:46:58 | 0:47:00 | |
We've lost virtually all our work in Tata and we've lost | 0:47:00 | 0:47:03 | |
over 100 employees. | 0:47:03 | 0:47:04 | |
We are now working at 90 people. | 0:47:04 | 0:47:09 | |
Fairwood is now winning new business and they're confident things | 0:47:09 | 0:47:11 | |
can be turned around. | 0:47:11 | 0:47:13 | |
Early morning, and Chris is joining up with other | 0:47:19 | 0:47:21 | |
steelworkers in Port Talbot. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:26 | |
We're just about to get the bus coming in now, any minute now - | 0:47:26 | 0:47:29 | |
make our mark on London. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:31 | |
What do we want out of today? | 0:47:33 | 0:47:40 | |
The first one is Tata have got to be responsible sellers | 0:47:40 | 0:47:43 | |
and make sure they're doing the right thing. | 0:47:43 | 0:47:52 | |
And the second one is about putting pressure on the Government | 0:47:58 | 0:48:01 | |
to have a proper industrial strategy going forward. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:03 | |
They're heading off for a rally, and joining steelworkers | 0:48:03 | 0:48:05 | |
from across Britain for a march on Parliament. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:07 | |
CAR HORNS HONK, WHISTLES BLOW | 0:48:22 | 0:48:30 | |
You only have to look around, the cars passing. | 0:48:42 | 0:48:44 | |
The UK public are behind us. | 0:48:44 | 0:48:45 | |
We are getting support from the UK public. | 0:48:45 | 0:48:52 | |
Save our steel, save our steel. | 0:48:52 | 0:48:54 | |
Save our steel, save our steel. What I'm doing is I'm phoning people | 0:48:54 | 0:48:56 | |
up and saying you've got to have confidence. | 0:48:56 | 0:48:58 | |
We've got confidence as a government. | 0:48:58 | 0:49:00 | |
When you see all the support coming together from the UK, | 0:49:00 | 0:49:02 | |
it's absolutely unbelievable. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:08 | |
Knowing communities are on our side, | 0:49:08 | 0:49:10 | |
it's something special. | 0:49:10 | 0:49:13 | |
The truth is the Government gets this, that's | 0:49:13 | 0:49:19 | |
why we've offered to invest hundreds of millions of pounds, | 0:49:19 | 0:49:21 | |
take up to 25% stake in any new business. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:23 | |
We get this, I can assure you. | 0:49:23 | 0:49:25 | |
The question now is to make sure if Tata are going to sell | 0:49:25 | 0:49:28 | |
they sell to someone who has a long-term plan | 0:49:28 | 0:49:30 | |
to secure the future. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:34 | |
Everywhere I've gone, and I've been to almost | 0:49:34 | 0:49:36 | |
all the steelworks now, | 0:49:36 | 0:49:37 | |
there are a number of striking features, and one of the most | 0:49:37 | 0:49:40 | |
striking features is the quality of the people that work there. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:43 | |
Stand up and save our steel, stand up and save our steel. | 0:49:43 | 0:49:46 | |
Whilst political parties agree they want to save Port Talbot, | 0:49:46 | 0:49:49 | |
they say big changes will be necessary. | 0:49:49 | 0:49:52 | |
What's the future for the steelworks in Port Talbot, | 0:49:52 | 0:50:01 | |
and the industry generally in Britain? | 0:50:01 | 0:50:03 | |
How do you move forward in a healthy positive way? | 0:50:03 | 0:50:05 | |
The challenge is to make sure that you're not producing steel | 0:50:05 | 0:50:08 | |
that is being produced all over the world. | 0:50:08 | 0:50:10 | |
If you do that, you're competing with people whose costs are lower. | 0:50:10 | 0:50:13 | |
So how do you get around that? | 0:50:13 | 0:50:15 | |
You invest in facilities where the quality is better and then | 0:50:15 | 0:50:17 | |
of course you can make sure that you can pay people more. | 0:50:17 | 0:50:24 | |
The word is now, they're almost back in profit again now. | 0:50:24 | 0:50:27 | |
Shows all kinds of possibilities? | 0:50:27 | 0:50:28 | |
It shows how variable the whole thing | 0:50:28 | 0:50:30 | |
is because the million-pound-a-day loss was on the basis of a real | 0:50:30 | 0:50:32 | |
depression in the price of steel. | 0:50:32 | 0:50:34 | |
I know that a few weeks ago they cut that loss by two thirds, | 0:50:34 | 0:50:37 | |
there's talk now that it's breaking even again. | 0:50:37 | 0:50:37 | |
For any prospective buyer of Tata's steel business there's one massive | 0:50:41 | 0:50:44 | |
hurdle to overcome - pensions. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:47 | |
It's very much in the minds of steelworkers like Nigel, | 0:50:47 | 0:50:49 | |
who had hoped to retire next year. | 0:50:49 | 0:50:53 | |
Everyone's saying the big stumbling block could be | 0:50:53 | 0:50:55 | |
the pensions - the deficit. | 0:50:55 | 0:51:00 | |
Everyone's goal working down there was to have a job for life - | 0:51:00 | 0:51:03 | |
then retire at 60 with a nice pension. | 0:51:03 | 0:51:05 | |
Obviously that's now changed. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:11 | |
My plan is to get to retire at some point with a pension but if that | 0:51:11 | 0:51:18 | |
pension fund is taken away I'll probably be there until I'm 65, | 0:51:18 | 0:51:21 | |
not 60, and have a much smaller pension then. | 0:51:21 | 0:51:28 | |
Workers could face cuts in their pensions, as the company | 0:51:28 | 0:51:30 | |
faces a deficit of ?700 million. | 0:51:30 | 0:51:35 | |
Now, the UK government has announced a month-long consultation | 0:51:35 | 0:51:38 | |
Hell | 0:51:38 | 0:51:41 | |
into the scheme, which goes back to the days of the old British Steel. | 0:51:41 | 0:51:44 | |
Well, one thing is sure, the future of this town and this | 0:51:44 | 0:51:47 | |
community is completely tied up with what happens | 0:51:47 | 0:51:49 | |
to this steelworks. | 0:51:49 | 0:51:57 | |
Not just economically, but in terms of this town's identity. | 0:51:57 | 0:52:02 | |
Who this town is, who these people are. | 0:52:02 | 0:52:07 | |
Port Talbot is facing hundreds of job losses already announced. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:14 | |
Public bodies - like health boards and local councils - | 0:52:14 | 0:52:16 | |
are braced to step in. | 0:52:16 | 0:52:22 | |
The scale of the challenge is huge, the implications for the town | 0:52:22 | 0:52:25 | |
and surrounding area are massive. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:29 | |
We're talking about thousands of jobs and the impact on public | 0:52:29 | 0:52:39 | |
services, the wellbeing of the communities, in a sense, | 0:52:41 | 0:52:50 | |
it's a sort of replay of where we were with pit closures | 0:52:50 | 0:52:53 | |
in the 1980s, it's on that sort of scale. | 0:52:53 | 0:52:56 | |
If the worst was to happen, steelworks to close down. | 0:52:56 | 0:52:58 | |
Is there some kind of Plan B? | 0:52:58 | 0:53:00 | |
We're not contemplating closure of the steelworks. | 0:53:00 | 0:53:01 | |
This isn't a town that gives up. | 0:53:01 | 0:53:03 | |
People are facing challenges and uncertainties but there | 0:53:03 | 0:53:05 | |
is a grim determination to do what they're good at. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:07 | |
And continue to do what they're good at, which is making steel. | 0:53:07 | 0:53:10 | |
That's all workers at the plant want to do. | 0:53:10 | 0:53:13 | |
Workers like Nigel and Scott. | 0:53:13 | 0:53:17 | |
It's been a very anxious five months for them - but they're hopeful | 0:53:17 | 0:53:20 | |
things will work out. | 0:53:20 | 0:53:26 | |
Given there is still a lot of anxiety and insecurity, not | 0:53:26 | 0:53:29 | |
knowing what is going to happen, at least you are feeling optimistic | 0:53:29 | 0:53:34 | |
at the moment that there is a future in the steelworks for both of you. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:43 | |
So long as potentially a buyer comes in, or as I said, | 0:53:43 | 0:53:45 | |
Tata might keep it - the Government have promised to help. | 0:53:45 | 0:53:48 | |
As long as it stays open we're hopefully pretty safe. | 0:53:48 | 0:53:51 | |
We're on the top of the roller-coaster at the moment. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:53 | |
But who knows what's going to happen next week? | 0:53:53 | 0:53:55 | |
Yeah, that's right. | 0:53:55 | 0:53:56 | |
In this story. | 0:53:56 | 0:53:57 | |
There's been a lot of ups and downs so far and we're | 0:53:57 | 0:54:00 | |
expecting another one. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:01 | |
Yeah. | 0:54:01 | 0:54:02 | |
Yeah. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:03 | |
Wait and see what happens now. | 0:54:03 | 0:54:08 | |
It's not been plain sailing for Peter either - he's | 0:54:08 | 0:54:10 | |
still looking for a job. | 0:54:10 | 0:54:11 | |
Hello. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:12 | |
How you doing? | 0:54:12 | 0:54:14 | |
So what are the job prospects out there? | 0:54:14 | 0:54:15 | |
Have you had a look and seen what's around? | 0:54:15 | 0:54:20 | |
Constantly on the internet. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:26 | |
I've spent more time on the internet this last five weeks | 0:54:26 | 0:54:29 | |
than I've ever done. | 0:54:29 | 0:54:30 | |
I didn't realise how difficult it is to find a job, like. | 0:54:30 | 0:54:32 | |
And it is. | 0:54:32 | 0:54:34 | |
I went as far as Cardiff to try and find a job, and I can't. | 0:54:34 | 0:54:38 | |
What's the last four or five weeks been like, | 0:54:38 | 0:54:40 | |
since you lost the job? | 0:54:40 | 0:54:41 | |
It's been a nightmare, to be honest with you. | 0:54:41 | 0:54:43 | |
As far as I was concerned it was a job for life | 0:54:43 | 0:54:46 | |
and I was going to retire in the steelworks. | 0:54:46 | 0:54:48 | |
And here I am now, back to square one, so to speak. | 0:54:48 | 0:54:51 | |
How are you feeling about your prospects for getting a new job? | 0:54:51 | 0:54:54 | |
I'm feeling good at the moment. | 0:54:54 | 0:54:55 | |
I just passed my second test today. | 0:54:55 | 0:54:57 | |
It'll take ten days - it's a proper licence, | 0:54:57 | 0:55:02 | |
you know what I mean? | 0:55:02 | 0:55:03 | |
Still no job, but Peter won't give up and he's | 0:55:03 | 0:55:05 | |
trying to remain optimistic. | 0:55:05 | 0:55:07 | |
I can apply now, now I've got them licences. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:11 | |
Happy days. | 0:55:11 | 0:55:12 | |
That's amazing. | 0:55:12 | 0:55:15 | |
You're a good teacher, maybe you should start teaching guitar? | 0:55:15 | 0:55:20 | |
That's the end of it, innit? | 0:55:20 | 0:55:21 | |
And for Chris. | 0:55:21 | 0:55:25 | |
After months of uncertainty, he's been told he's not being made | 0:55:25 | 0:55:28 | |
redundant after all. | 0:55:28 | 0:55:31 | |
So how did that feel when they told you there was a job there for you? | 0:55:31 | 0:55:34 | |
It was relief, it was relief. | 0:55:34 | 0:55:36 | |
It really was. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:37 | |
Because a few times I've been told, "There's a job, | 0:55:37 | 0:55:39 | |
we've got you a job, you're safe," but nothing was happening. | 0:55:39 | 0:55:42 | |
There was nothing official. | 0:55:42 | 0:55:43 | |
Presumably even though you have got a job there's still a lot | 0:55:43 | 0:55:46 | |
of insecurity that comes along with that. | 0:55:46 | 0:55:47 | |
Course there is, course there is. | 0:55:47 | 0:55:53 | |
I mean, one of the potential buyers already said they're going to get | 0:55:53 | 0:55:56 | |
rid of another 1000 jobs - that's across the UK, not just | 0:55:56 | 0:55:59 | |
in Port Talbot. | 0:55:59 | 0:56:00 | |
Again, that's more worry. | 0:56:00 | 0:56:01 | |
As a family, how do you plan for the immediate future now? | 0:56:01 | 0:56:04 | |
It has given us a little bit of security and we can | 0:56:04 | 0:56:08 | |
start planning again - but for how long? | 0:56:08 | 0:56:12 | |
And what it's done for me, it's shaken me to the core | 0:56:12 | 0:56:17 | |
and I think we need to start looking to see if we can survive on one | 0:56:17 | 0:56:21 | |
income just in case. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:23 | |
That's how much it's frightened me. | 0:56:23 | 0:56:25 | |
The town and the community surrounding the steelworks have been | 0:56:29 | 0:56:33 | |
scarred by the events of the last few months. | 0:56:33 | 0:56:41 | |
The town and the community surrounding the steelworks have been | 0:56:41 | 0:56:44 | |
scarred by the events of the last few months. | 0:56:44 | 0:56:46 | |
And there seems to be no end in sight. | 0:56:46 | 0:56:48 | |
We don't know when a new owner will be announced - if at all. | 0:56:48 | 0:56:52 | |
After putting its entire UK business up for sale there's speculation Tata | 0:56:52 | 0:56:54 | |
may decide to keep the business. | 0:56:54 | 0:57:01 | |
What my biggest concern is, I suppose, is that | 0:57:01 | 0:57:05 | |
the focus that has come on to this community because of what's happened | 0:57:05 | 0:57:08 | |
over the last few months with the steelworks, | 0:57:08 | 0:57:10 | |
it's shown that it's an incredibly dangerous situation for one | 0:57:10 | 0:57:12 | |
community to be so dependent on an industry like this. | 0:57:12 | 0:57:12 | |
Having been inside the steelworks and seen this extraordinary town | 0:57:18 | 0:57:20 | |
within a town and people working together and the pride that | 0:57:20 | 0:57:23 | |
people have inside there and the extraordinary kind of raw | 0:57:23 | 0:57:27 | |
elemental power of heavy industry, matched together with the precision | 0:57:27 | 0:57:35 | |
of the technology of the science that's going on there, | 0:57:35 | 0:57:37 | |
that expertise, that knowledge, if this was to go down, | 0:57:37 | 0:57:39 | |
would be lost. | 0:57:39 | 0:57:40 | |
And that would be a terrible, terrible loss. | 0:57:40 | 0:57:42 | |
Not only for this town but all of Wales, all of Britain. | 0:57:42 | 0:57:45 | |
We can't let that happen. | 0:57:45 | 0:57:47 | |
There has to be an alternative, no matter what happens | 0:57:47 | 0:57:52 | |
to the steelworks, there has to be some kind of safety net for these | 0:57:52 | 0:57:55 | |
people and this community, because if it can happen here - | 0:57:55 | 0:58:01 | |
in a place that has been the heart of British industry for so long | 0:58:01 | 0:58:04 | |
- then it can happen anywhere. | 0:58:04 | 0:58:09 | |
Join us in Shropshire, to help a firefighter and his daughter out | 0:58:33 | 0:58:34 | |
Join us in Shropshire, to help a firefighter and his daughter out | 0:58:34 | 0:58:36 | |
of their cramped caravan and turn their desperate dream | 0:58:36 | 0:58:39 | |
into a reality. | 0:58:39 | 0:58:40 |