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'In December 2015, | 0:00:03 | 0:00:05 | |
'14 people were murdered in San Bernardino by home-grown Islamists. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:11 | |
'Life for American Muslims would never be the same again, | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
'as hate and violence was directed at them like never before.' | 0:00:16 | 0:00:20 | |
This religion teaches that women should be raped | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
for showing their face. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
'And when America accepted thousands of Syrian refugees | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
'politicians joined in.' | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
Donald J Trump is calling for a total | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:37 | |
'Trump's popularity exposed a country | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
'polarised by anti-Muslim hysteria.' | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
There are a lot of incidents that go unreported, | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
the man that starts beating a young Muslim man, | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
screaming out, "Trump, Trump, Trump!" | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
You can't give us any guarantee that your kid might someday | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
strap on a suicide vest. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:55 | |
You read the same Koran that Isis does! | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
'I'm going to find out how America has got to a point | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
'where it's become normal to label a whole community as terrorists.' | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
If you're 18 years old and your name's Jamal | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
and you've got the beard and the hat, | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
kind of goes without saying that you're not allowed. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
'And where protesters come armed and ready for war.' | 0:01:14 | 0:01:18 | |
If they think they're going to come to Texas | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
and pull these jihad attacks like they do in France, | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
it's not going to happen. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:23 | |
'Are these fears justified? Is America really under attack?' | 0:01:25 | 0:01:29 | |
Do you believe in jihad? | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
The last year has seen a huge increase | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
in anti-Islamic hate groups. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
Their purpose - to free America of Muslims. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
And I'm in Phoenix, Arizona, to meet one of the most controversial. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:58 | |
How's it going? | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
Hi, I'm Robert. Nice to meet you, man. Follow me. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
'Robert is the founder of protest group Bomb Islam | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
'and is keen to show me how he spends his Fridays.' | 0:02:05 | 0:02:09 | |
Tell us what you're doing here today. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:10 | |
What we're doing right now is we're going to do a little protest, | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
me and a few of my friends here, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
that basically just lets these Muslims know | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
that they're not going to get comfortable here in my state. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
Why specifically have you chosen this mosque? | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
One, it's the closest one where we can get right to where they enter | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
so it's easiest to antagonise them here. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
Two, the guy that flew the plane into the Pentagon, | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
this was his mosque. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
'Robert's group is a small collection of Army veterans | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
'determined to uphold American values.' | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
Do you feel like you need that today? | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
I think in general there's a chance of terrorist attack | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
anywhere and everywhere, at any point in time, especially today. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
We just know the history of Islam. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
Since 632 AD it's been nothing but terror around the world. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:53 | |
We don't want it here. This is America. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
See, right here is where you can get all sorts of halal meat. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
So if you're into animal torture, this is where you get the meat. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
Are you real idiots? You have no clue of what you're living about. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
-Oh, yeah? -Yeah? -We believe in all the prophets. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
-From the first prophet to the last. -Oh, yeah! Uh-huh? | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
-You also believe in Sharia law. -Could you read that? | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
Yes, this is the most hateful, sexist, racist, | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
-homophobic book I've ever read. -When you read the book... | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
-Can you read it? -Yeah, absolutely. In fact I'm going to read it... | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
No, no, no, no, no, | 0:03:22 | 0:03:23 | |
-read from the beginning. -..and I'm going to rip it. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
'Robert rips out a page of the Koran. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
'Under UK law, these extreme protesters could be | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
'arrested for religious hatred, | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
'but the First Amendment protects Robert's freedom of speech.' | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
-You terrorist! -LAUGHTER | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
-Why are you doing that? -Garbage is what this is, this is hate speech. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
This is racist, sexist, homophobic, | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
advocates rape and paedophilia. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
Has a Muslim ever done any harm to you? | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
Not to me personally, no, but they're doing harm to the country. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
They want to normalise their religion, | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
they want people to think that they're peaceful, | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
that they have a place here in America, | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
when in reality they do not. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
-You Muslim? -Yes. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:05 | |
So what do you think about Muhammad having sex with a nine-year-old? | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
Do you think that's paedophilia or do you think it was justified? | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
Nothing you're saying is going to get me mad... | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
-Of course not. -..because you're ignorant. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
Does Sharia law believe in equal rights for women? Yes or no. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
-Yes, absolutely. -Since when? -OK, have you read it? | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
How come they got to wear a burka? And they can't show their face. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
-That's not equal rights. -Look... Look... -Busted! | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
Careful, you might get acid thrown on your face, | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
get too close to these guys. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:30 | |
He said that he won't condemn Hamas or the Muslim Brotherhood. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
And he won't say the US Constitution. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
What are you doing in America? | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
-Because I love here. -'The Big Satan' you consider it. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
Why don't you go back to a Muslim country and take Obama with you? | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
You're a radicalist trying to destroy America. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
-Get out. -No, no, no. -Yes, you are! | 0:04:46 | 0:04:47 | |
You can't give us any guarantee that your kid might someday | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
strap on a suicide vest. You read the same Koran that Isis does! | 0:04:50 | 0:04:54 | |
-You guys jealous of Islam. -You guys suck. -Jealous of Islam?! | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
Jealous of Islam, yes. | 0:04:57 | 0:04:58 | |
-Walk away cos you know you're wrong. -Coward. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
-Coward! -Coward! | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
Is wrong. This is what cause hate. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
I know America - it's a free country. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
But you can't do that, you can't come to the mosque here | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
and cause more hate, that's not right. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
'I thought Robert had finished his abuse for one day | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
'but I was wrong.' | 0:05:23 | 0:05:24 | |
See, we got one right here wearing a trash bag on her head. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
You don't even know that woman, you haven't spoken to her, | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
you don't know anything about her. Why would you want to abuse her? | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
She's making a statement by wearing that trash bag, saying, | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
"I'm better than you, I'm a Muslim." You know. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
An Islamic supremacist, basically. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
They think that we're apes and pigs | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
and that she is so much better than us that we can't see her hair. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
That's ridiculous. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
No, it is a ridiculous religion. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
'It's difficult for me to understand why Robert feels | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
'the way he does, but anti-Muslim feeling is racing across America. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
'55% of Americans have expressed some kind of negative views | 0:06:04 | 0:06:08 | |
'towards Islam.' | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
I'm taking a two-hour flight to Dallas, Texas. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
Muslims have been living here for over 50 years. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:23 | |
There are now 150,000 in the Dallas/Fort Worth area, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
one of the biggest populations in America. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
But could this also be the most Islamophobic place in America? | 0:06:32 | 0:06:37 | |
Armed militia groups have been protesting outside the mosques. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
The police arrested a 14-year-old Muslim schoolboy | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
because they thought his science project looked like a bomb. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
GUNSHOTS | 0:06:47 | 0:06:48 | |
And a man attacked a Muslim business, | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
killing one person and injuring others. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
But today I'm here at the University of Texas, | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
where a memorial has been organised | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
to remember three American Muslim students | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
who were sought out and gunned down in their own apartment. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
This event is called Balloons For Our Three Winners. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
Each one of you has a balloon | 0:07:10 | 0:07:11 | |
and on the balloon you have a quote attached to it. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
These quotes are from three victims | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
that were murdered for their religion. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
The reason we're having this event is to honour their memory | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
and show that their legacy still lives on. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
Three, two, one... | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
Go! | 0:07:26 | 0:07:27 | |
Hate crimes targeting Muslims has tripled in the last year. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
Fear is affecting Muslims here. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
Because...some people, you don't know how far they're going to go, | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
so some people are being hurt, some people are scared, erm... | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
I had security cameras installed around my house | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
because I felt afraid, and I didn't feel like that before. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
One time I was driving and the car next to me, | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
he started imitating, like, some... like, a gun with his fingers, | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
as if he was shooting me, | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
and so I got really scared and I took a detour. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
I was putting my groceries in the trunk | 0:08:10 | 0:08:12 | |
when an individual approached me from behind. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
He was like, "Are you Muslim?" And I was like, "Yeah, I'm Muslim." | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
And he showed me his gun, and he was like, | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
"If I could use this right now, I would. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
"And I would kill you here right now." | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
Only 20 minutes away from the university, I'm meeting | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
one of the most extreme anti-Muslim groups operating in America. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:39 | |
'After months of negotiation, I've finally got access to | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
'the Bureau of American Islamic Relations, or Bair for short.' | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
This is the one that takes the AR mags, right? | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
Haven't got to fire that one yet. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
'They think Islam is incompatible with the American Constitution | 0:08:56 | 0:09:01 | |
'and that all Muslims are potential terrorists. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
'David Wright III is their leader.' | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
What are you protecting? | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
I set up Bair as a resistance against radical Islam | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
coming to America and killing innocent American people. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
We're protecting our state, our country, our families. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:20 | |
-Constitution. -We're protecting our way of life, the Constitution, | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
we're protecting all of it, everything. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
Everything that you know and understand about America, | 0:09:25 | 0:09:29 | |
that's what we're protecting. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:30 | |
-Men, what are we? -Free men! | 0:09:30 | 0:09:34 | |
And we're going to remain free. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
'Bair have no faith in the government | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
'and believe President Obama to be a Muslim. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
'They claim to run their own homeland security service | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
'and they want to show me some evidence | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
'that Bair think the FBI may have missed.' | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
Y'all are familiar with what's going on up in Oregon right now. | 0:09:56 | 0:10:00 | |
What do you think this place is? | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
This is one of the areas that we're being told is used as a camp. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:08 | |
It's a suspected terrorist training camp. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
Most of the training takes place up here to the right, | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
in the wood line, where you can't see it. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
That is where they do the pistol training. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
A lot of the rest of their firearm training is actually done | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
back in the wood line, with this being their main mosque. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
Is it realistic to think there's a training camp here in Texas? | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
Isis and the Muslim Brotherhood have already admitted that they've | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
got terrorist training facilities here in the United States. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
And what other type of training are they going to do | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
at a location like this in a rural area? | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
Why would they need to be in such a rural area | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
to do any other training except weapons, firearms training | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
and tactical training, where nobody can see what they're doing? | 0:10:49 | 0:10:53 | |
This is definitely a target of interest | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
we want to keep our eyes on. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:56 | |
'With the target identified, | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
'Bair have called an armed training exercise to prepare themselves | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
'for a war with Muslims that they believe is coming.' | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
I'm proud to be called Big Daddy Infidel. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
-Other guy said Infidel, I said Big Daddy Infidel! -Yeah, that's it! | 0:11:11 | 0:11:16 | |
If they think they're going to come to Texas | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
and pull these jihad attacks like they do in France, | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
things like that, and get away with it, it's not going to happen. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
There's a gun behind every blade of grass. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
A lot of them are going to see this and they're going to know | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
that they try their jihad shit in Texas, ain't going to work out! | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
If you fuck with America, we fuck with you back. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
How can we vet them to come into America? | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
I don't care if they're eight or ten years old, | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
there's a possibility that they have a problem with us, | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
and their whole philosophy is "death to America", | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
so why would they even want to come here | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
unless they were going to blow something up? | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
-That's right. -Or shoot people. -It's common sense, isn't it? | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
It's common sense, so... | 0:11:51 | 0:11:52 | |
If you're 18 years old and your name's Jamal | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
and you've got the beard and the hat, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
it kind of goes without saying that you're not allowed. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
Yeah, this is like our little training camp, | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
our little forward operating base. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
It's very private and out of the way. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
A place we can come to be left alone and...it's quiet. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
Until we get started shooting, then it's not so quiet. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
Ready to the left? | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
Ready to the right? | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
-Send them down! -Get them out! | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
-Whoa, yeah! -Whoohoo! | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
Too bad I can't shake the man's hand that did that for real. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
'Seeing the size of some of the weaponry makes me wonder | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
'what sort of an attack they're expecting.' | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
-What's this? -It's a .50-cal BMG. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:57 | |
These are the rounds for it. | 0:12:57 | 0:12:58 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
So what would that do to a person? | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
You probably wouldn't have much of a head left. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
Which actually you wouldn't, I've seen plenty of videos of that. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
What are you preparing for? | 0:13:08 | 0:13:09 | |
I think that more or less it's good to be prepared for what's to come, | 0:13:09 | 0:13:13 | |
especially with all these Syrian refugees coming over here. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:17 | |
They just arrested a fella in Houston | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
that was planning to go blow up a mall over here, | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
and stuff like that, | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
so they're not as all peaceful as everybody makes them out to be. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
Christians aren't going to take shit from people. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
Especially from Muslims. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
Europe is what we're trying to avoid here. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
The Muslim refugees rioting and things like that, | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
raping women, and the police not really prosecuting them. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:42 | |
It's absolutely insane. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:43 | |
If that comes here, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
we're not going to worry about the police taking care of us. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
We're going to take care of ourselves. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
'Whilst today was just a training exercise, | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
'in two weeks' time | 0:13:55 | 0:13:56 | |
'these guys are planning a protest at a local mosque | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
'with guns and live ammunition.' | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
'And I can't help worry that this mix of anti-Muslim feeling | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
'and a passion for firearms could be a lethal combination. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:13 | |
'Especially when you consider the strength of feeling | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
'second-in-command John has.' | 0:14:16 | 0:14:17 | |
What do you really think about Islam? | 0:14:17 | 0:14:21 | |
I can actually tolerate cannibalism from South America over, er, Islam. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:28 | |
Because I don't see cannibals trying to run out of their territory | 0:14:28 | 0:14:32 | |
and take over the entire world, | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
where Islam has made it absolutely clear that is their mission. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
Islam needs to be banned in the United States. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
You know, you want Sharia law, you want your set of rules, | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
go back to your country, where you came from. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
I have come downtown, to meet American-born Omar Suleiman, | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
one of the most prominent imams in the United States. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
He sees Islamophobia everywhere. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
SHOUT FROM PASSING CAR | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
There you go, you got something. I just threw him up a peace sign, | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
-that's all. -What did he say to you? -I don't know. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
I'm so used to getting yelled at that sometimes, | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
I can't even make out what they are saying anymore, so... | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
I don't know if it's, "Hi, how's it going?" | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
or it's, "Go back home," or, "Go to hell." | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
It's always something different, | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
so you just throw up a peace sign every time. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
There are a lot of incidents that go unreported, that we hear about, | 0:15:32 | 0:15:36 | |
that go unreported. So, when someone stalks a Muslim woman | 0:15:36 | 0:15:40 | |
in a parking lot and threatens them with violence, | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
that doesn't go reported, but it is there | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
and it is becoming a daily reality for people. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
And then you have got the man that jumps off his motorcycle | 0:15:47 | 0:15:51 | |
and starts beating a young Muslim man, | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
screaming out, "Trump, Trump, Trump!" | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
CAR HORN BLARES | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
Where has this come from? How have we got here? | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
With a very systematic dehumanisation | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
of 1.8 billion people. That's how we got here. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:09 | |
Through media, through the movies, through our reckless politicians. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:16 | |
Sadly, it is where we're at. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:18 | |
Omar is worried that this is only the beginning | 0:16:20 | 0:16:24 | |
and America could be heading back | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
to a much darker place in its history. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
The reason why I brought you here is that, | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
just a little over 100 years ago, | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
a man by the name of Allen Brooks was dragged out | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
of the second floor of the old courthouse by an angry lynch mob | 0:16:37 | 0:16:41 | |
and they dragged him on the street and they lynched him here, | 0:16:41 | 0:16:47 | |
at this intersection. The fact that this happened in America | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
only over 100 years ago, | 0:16:51 | 0:16:52 | |
what it shows us is that we have been here before, | 0:16:52 | 0:16:54 | |
that we have had this... we have had this ugly past | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
that we have to come to terms with. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
If we are going to truly say "never again" | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
then we should not allow ourselves | 0:17:02 | 0:17:03 | |
to fall for the same traps that allowed us to dehumanise people | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
to the point that they could be lynched | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
in front of men, women and children | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
without anyone seeing any problem with that, | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
any moral conflict with that. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
When you dehumanise a people enough, that is what you can do to them. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
But it is not history David is concerned with. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
It is the future of the America he grew up in. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
He is worried that more of his beloved Texas | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
will be taken over by Muslims. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
We're going to go and scout out the area around the mosque. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
Drive through the neighbourhoods around there | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
and tell you guys how they have changed all the street names. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
They have Islamic street names now. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:46 | |
When I was a kid, running around that area with my friends, | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
all the street names were American-sounding street names. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
To drive over there now and see these changes... | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
..it's kind of disturbing. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
It makes us feel like they're not trying to assimilate... | 0:18:04 | 0:18:08 | |
..and be American. They are trying to bring the Middle East to America. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:15 | |
I can see David become uncomfortable | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
as we enter the Muslim neighbourhood. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
This one, Al Razi... | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
HE READ ANOTHER STREET NAME | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
You want to grab something to eat here at the Kasbah Cafe(?) | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
Yeah, that's Muslim. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:39 | |
Now, have you seen anyone other than Muslims | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
in this neighbourhood since we have been here? | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
Nothing but. Nothing but Muslims in the whole neighbourhood. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
And look at all the money that's in here. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
I mean, these are some rich Muslims | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
and they're taking over. | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
They've got the money to do it. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:00 | |
They've got the money to do it. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
See, that is just creepy right there. Did you see that? | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
That is just creepy. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
I mean, it feels Satanic to me when I see these people. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
They are dressed in black | 0:19:14 | 0:19:15 | |
and it's all covering their face and their eyes are dark looking. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
It's...very Satanic, to me. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
David's feelings about Muslims seems to be a weird mix of hate and envy. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
But I am keen to speak to some of the younger members up there | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
and find out why they feel the way they do. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
KNOCKING | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
-Hey, guys, how are you? -Fine. You OK? -Yeah, I'm good. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
-You guys? -Yeah. -Come on in. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
'Franklin is 23 and one of the newest members of the group. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
'He is also a reformed burglar.' | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
Tell me where your views about Muslims came from. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
Well, my first experience with the Muslim was actually in prison. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:03 | |
That experience was...this man tried to convert me immediately. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:08 | |
Of course, me not knowing anything about it, I was like, | 0:20:08 | 0:20:13 | |
"Well, you guys don't believe in Jesus. That is my saviour." | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
He started, "No, we do believe in Jesus." | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
I brushed that off. "I'm not going to convert to Islam." | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
And then I started picking up the Koran and picking up the Hadith, | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
which is the words of the Prophet, | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
to see that it's not just the select few, | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
that they're taught from a very young age - | 0:20:30 | 0:20:35 | |
indoctrinated, I would say - with these beliefs. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
They are instilled with an unwavering hate of Jews, | 0:20:38 | 0:20:43 | |
of all things not Islam. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
What percentage of Syrian refugees coming in here | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
do you think are terrorists or will be terrorists? | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
Um... | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
All of them. | 0:20:57 | 0:20:58 | |
-Really? -They are all reading the same Koran, | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
they are all reading the same Hadith, so Islam is Islam. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:05 | |
I mean, it will be a cool day in hell | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
if you can convince me that what I'm seeing is not real. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
Franklin's anger at America letting in so many Muslims | 0:21:11 | 0:21:15 | |
has led him to make a big decision. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
What have you done about how you feel about the situation? | 0:21:18 | 0:21:20 | |
Well, I mean, with the current state of America, | 0:21:20 | 0:21:24 | |
it has me on edge. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
It drove me...to take a stand, | 0:21:26 | 0:21:30 | |
to make a choice in my life that will benefit me and my family | 0:21:30 | 0:21:35 | |
and, hopefully, all of America. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
And that decision for me | 0:21:37 | 0:21:38 | |
was to run for office at a national level, | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
-at a Congressional level. -This is your website, yeah? | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
Yeah. What I'm aiming to do is use my salary as a Congressman | 0:21:45 | 0:21:50 | |
and fund other like-minded individuals who will take action, | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
who will not sit idly by and watch their nation be destroyed. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
One of the pages, I noticed, you accept donations or something. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
You have asked for money. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:01 | |
Well, if we click on that, what that does is | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
that takes you to a GoFundMe account for me and, of course, | 0:22:04 | 0:22:11 | |
-I have nothing! -Where does it say nothing? -Zero! | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
FRANKLIN LAUGHS | 0:22:14 | 0:22:15 | |
My goal is to get whatever I can get! | 0:22:15 | 0:22:19 | |
How realistic do you think it is | 0:22:20 | 0:22:21 | |
that you will actually run for office in 2020? | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
Oh...it's happening. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
It's...it's... I will figure out a way. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
If I can't get any donations and nobody wants to contribute | 0:22:30 | 0:22:35 | |
and I have to go out and do it alone, I will go out and do it alone | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
and I will find a way to run in 2020 | 0:22:38 | 0:22:40 | |
and I will find a way to win in 2020. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:41 | |
I mean, it's a sure thing. Whoever I run against, | 0:22:41 | 0:22:45 | |
I don't care what committee position they hold | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
or how long they have been in Congress...I will win. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:52 | |
Franklin has an unwavering belief in himself | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
and his liberty as an American. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
What I want to know is | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
when does one person's freedom become another person's blasphemy? | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
Hello! Come on in. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
I am meeting Dorrie, an author of books on Islamic extremists, | 0:23:16 | 0:23:21 | |
and someone who sees no problem with upsetting Muslims. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
This is, basically, my little corner of the world | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
where I do all my research and all my study | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
with many, many, many books. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
This is the latest one that came out that I'm working on. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:37 | |
I was asked to speak, two years ago it would have been, | 0:23:37 | 0:23:42 | |
when Isis began to rise. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
And one of the things I figured that I absolutely had to have | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
was this information on these maps, | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
to see where everything was actually happening. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
I do this because it is extremely critical | 0:23:53 | 0:23:58 | |
that people understand what Islam is doing to the world. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:03 | |
Dorrie's belief in free speech | 0:24:05 | 0:24:06 | |
led to her involvement in a controversial art exhibition. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
You cannot draw pictures of Muhammad, because it's slander, | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
and that is something they don't like. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
And it's a killing offence. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
It is, literally, capital punishment, in Sharia law. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
So we all said, "Let's just stand up and show these people | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
"that you can't do that in the United States. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
"We MUST protect our freedom of speech. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
"Let's just draw Muhammad, you know? Let's just have some big contest." | 0:24:29 | 0:24:34 | |
The art contest was everybody who wanted to draw something | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
having to do with Muhammad. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
Tom Trento, live from | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
the Muhammad Art Exhibition - | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
the first, inaugural presentation of this type. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
I was very excited to go to it. It was something that I knew | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
was going to make a direct effect | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
on freedom of speech in the United States | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
and I was happy to do it. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
There was a great deal of security before we could get in. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:05 | |
We all went in, we were all checked out. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:07 | |
It was..it was quite secure. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
But hosting such a controversial event | 0:25:13 | 0:25:14 | |
was always going to be a security risk. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
Get back in the building! | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
-Shots fired. -Shots just got fired. -We don't know that for a fact. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:23 | |
The rumour started from somewhere | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
that there has been gunshots fired. There is two people shooting at us. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:31 | |
It was surreal. We were inside. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
We did not know what was going on outside. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
We have a little situation developing, live, right now. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
The security people are running like crazy outside. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
Somebody said, "We have no idea if shots have been fired." | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
They were Americans in Islamic clothing, | 0:25:48 | 0:25:53 | |
who were headed for us, to kill us, because they didn't want us to talk. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:58 | |
-Two suspects have been shot. -Wow. -Possibly have explosives on them. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
-That is what we are worried about right now. -Were the suspects Muslim? | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
I have no idea right now. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
The two attackers were American Muslims inspired by Isis. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:11 | |
Then, we heard that the two shooters were dead. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
And, from that point on, it was pretty much of a party. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
This is the winning cartoon. And it's very direct. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:23 | |
They tell us, "You can't draw Muhammad." | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
And the cartoonist, being very independent, | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
says, "Well, you can't tell me I can't, | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
"so that is why I am going to draw you." | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
-And that is the American spirit. -Do you realise how offensive | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
an art competition like that would be to Muslims? | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
I think it is really just too bad if you're offended. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:47 | |
They offend me all the time. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
They tried to kill me. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
-Do you think -that's -not offensive? | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
David is a firm believer in his freedoms as an American. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
And he is not letting the risk of further acts of terrorism | 0:27:02 | 0:27:06 | |
stop him from protesting. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:07 | |
When these people were having the draw the Prophet Muhammad event, | 0:27:07 | 0:27:12 | |
which, in America, we don't only believe in the Second Amendment - | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
to carry a gun - we believe in the First Amendment, | 0:27:16 | 0:27:20 | |
which is freedom of speech and expression. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:22 | |
If you want to draw pictures of somebody, | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
then you should be able to do that. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
And someone wants to kill them over that? | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
It's pretty ridiculous. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
So...we're protesting in front of mosques. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:38 | |
It's similar to what they were doing there. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
And we know that the terrorists will come and try and attack us, | 0:27:40 | 0:27:45 | |
if they get the idea in their heads, | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
so why would we not be prepared for that? | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
And when you're dealing with radical extremists | 0:27:51 | 0:27:56 | |
who set people on fire in cages, cut off heads - | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
when you're protesting against people like that, | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
-you almost -have -to use your Second Amendment to protect your First. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
ISLAMIC CALL TO PRAYER | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
Today, Irving Mosque is hosting a welcome day | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
for some of the newly-arrived refugees | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
who have escaped war in the Middle East. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
These are the lucky ones. Since 2012, | 0:28:21 | 0:28:23 | |
only 2,000 have been allowed into America. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
They have been through a two-year security vetting process... | 0:28:28 | 0:28:32 | |
..but Bair are still convinced they are terrorists | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
and have organised a protest at the mosque. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
They have come armed and prepared in case the refugees attack them. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
What have you got here? | 0:28:45 | 0:28:47 | |
It's an AK, an AK, an AK and a 308. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:51 | |
-And some body armour. -Just a standard shotgun | 0:28:52 | 0:28:56 | |
with combat shells. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:57 | |
High impact with three steel balls. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:01 | |
Take off a door or knock down a man. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
Why do you need guns here? | 0:29:06 | 0:29:07 | |
We've had five protests and we were armed at all of them. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:11 | |
And nobody got hurt, OK? | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
Terrorists attack unarmed crowds. They do not attack armed crowds. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:18 | |
It's a deterrent. Why do you think they have not attacked us? | 0:29:18 | 0:29:22 | |
HORN TOOTING | 0:29:32 | 0:29:33 | |
We have already had one detractor and one supporter. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
The detractor said, "Leave them people alone, | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
"you fucking country boy." | 0:29:39 | 0:29:41 | |
HORN TOOTING | 0:29:44 | 0:29:46 | |
I am shocked by the support of the passers-by. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
Right on, brother! | 0:29:50 | 0:29:51 | |
We've got four approvals and one disapproval, so far. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:55 | |
The silent majority of America is making their voices heard. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
MAN SHOUTS | 0:29:59 | 0:30:01 | |
HORN HONKS | 0:30:01 | 0:30:02 | |
Thumbs up. Another thumbs up. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
16-2. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:06 | |
THEY CHEER | 0:30:06 | 0:30:08 | |
Only a lone voice stands up for the Muslims. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
Who's this lady? | 0:30:13 | 0:30:15 | |
They got a sign. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:16 | |
"Refugees welcome". Uh-oh. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:18 | |
I'm afraid you're going to have to go someplace else. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
It's a free country and it's a free sidewalk. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
I'm not going to sit here and have another debate | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
for somebody that's ignorant and doesn't do their research. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
You're a white woman, right? | 0:30:28 | 0:30:29 | |
Well, guess what, you'll be their sex slave, | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
if they decide to keep you around. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:33 | |
You want that shit here? | 0:30:33 | 0:30:35 | |
Look at every country that has accepted these so-called refugees. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
Get out of here, sit down. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:39 | |
Why have you decided to come out here today? | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
I am willing to drag my disabled ass out of bed on a Saturday, | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
because I heard that armed people might be protesting | 0:30:45 | 0:30:49 | |
the American Islamic Center - | 0:30:49 | 0:30:51 | |
which I consider, basically, to be terrorism. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
People like that. She's never picked up a Koran. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:56 | |
Yet she's out here supporting them. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:58 | |
They just want peace. | 0:30:58 | 0:30:59 | |
They've probably done a little bit of LSD in their college days, | 0:30:59 | 0:31:03 | |
and they just - peace, love and happiness. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
There are real evils in this world. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:07 | |
..passport and I'll buy your tickets online... | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
I wonder if I'm seeing the real characters in Bair, | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
where a group of armed men are happy to bully a lone woman. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
You're not a soldier, you've never fought. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
-See that? I fought. -Uh-huh. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
I have the right to say what I've got to say. You do not. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
HE CHUCKLES | 0:31:29 | 0:31:31 | |
CALL TO PRAYER | 0:31:33 | 0:31:35 | |
Inside the mosque, | 0:31:36 | 0:31:37 | |
the refugees refuse to be intimidated by Bair's protest. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:41 | |
They're just glad to be safe, | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
having escaped their war-torn homeland. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
I was willing to go and talk to them, | 0:31:56 | 0:31:58 | |
because I'm looking to... I'm very open to talk to them, | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
to listen to the other view, to share my view, | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
I was afraid maybe someone is going to be a little bit offensive | 0:32:03 | 0:32:07 | |
or something like that. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:08 | |
Despite the hostile reception given to the refugees... | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
..Omar is preaching a message of understanding in a nearby mosque. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:19 | |
When we see people that are yelling and screaming, | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
when we see people that hate our guts, | 0:32:22 | 0:32:24 | |
whether they're holding up signs and telling you to go back home | 0:32:24 | 0:32:28 | |
or whether they're just people that are giving you, you know, | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
nasty stares in public, whatever it may be, | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
it allows us to not hate them, | 0:32:34 | 0:32:35 | |
it allows us to actually want good for them, | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
it allows us to be able to go to them | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
and to try to win over their hearts. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:42 | |
They're not in a position where their minds can absorb anything. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:46 | |
They've been too blocked by the hate. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:48 | |
He may teach tolerance, but I want to know | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
if he thinks he can prevent extremism in his own community. | 0:32:56 | 0:33:00 | |
I make very well clear | 0:33:00 | 0:33:02 | |
that there are no young people in my community that hold those views. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:05 | |
I talk to them on a daily, on a nightly, basis, | 0:33:05 | 0:33:07 | |
outside of the mosque. If you see me here outside the mosque, | 0:33:07 | 0:33:11 | |
every single day, you will see me talking to people. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:13 | |
I make sure that if those views start to creep into our community, | 0:33:13 | 0:33:16 | |
we crush them right away. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
So, I don't know what more I could except that - | 0:33:18 | 0:33:20 | |
and, of course, I counter, | 0:33:20 | 0:33:22 | |
use the online platform that God has blessed me with, | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
to counter that message - and I've been threatened for it, | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
and I have, you know, I... | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
I've been called multiple names for it, many names for it, | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
and I don't care. I'm going to keep doing it. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
Not because of Bair, but because of God | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
and because of who I believe I should be, as a Muslim. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
So, I have no problem assuming that responsibility, | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
I don't need anyone with a gun standing in front of my mosque | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
to tell me I need to do that. I'm already doing it. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:50 | |
I've been doing it before this group even existed. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
-REPORTER: -Just another day in the United States of America. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:58 | |
Another day of gunfire, panic and fear. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
But the fact is, American Muslims have carried out attacks. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:07 | |
Like the one in San Bernardino, | 0:34:07 | 0:34:09 | |
when 14 people were murdered. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
Omar believes that the people who commit these crimes | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
don't go to mosques or talk to imams like him. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:22 | |
He believes they're commonly radicalised online. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
It's here on faceless forums and networks | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
that extremist views are aired. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
It's on one such website I made contact with a Muslim | 0:34:33 | 0:34:36 | |
who is prepared to talk. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
He's concerned for his safety, | 0:34:40 | 0:34:42 | |
so we have to meet on his terms and without knowing his real name... | 0:34:42 | 0:34:46 | |
..but we're only 15 minutes from Omar's mosque. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
KNOCK AT DOOR | 0:35:02 | 0:35:04 | |
DOOR OPENS | 0:35:05 | 0:35:07 | |
Good. Can we sit down? | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
-Yes. -OK. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
So, do you want to tell us about how you feel? | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
Are you angry at America? | 0:35:16 | 0:35:18 | |
America's killed your friends. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:41 | |
Do you believe in jihad? | 0:36:03 | 0:36:04 | |
Is jihad the way forward? | 0:36:15 | 0:36:16 | |
Sharia law throughout America? | 0:36:29 | 0:36:31 | |
And that's what you believe? | 0:37:00 | 0:37:01 | |
How would the American Constitution fit into that? | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
It wouldn't fit in, would it? | 0:37:08 | 0:37:10 | |
This man lives lawfully in America, and denounces violence, | 0:37:28 | 0:37:32 | |
yet his vision for the future | 0:37:32 | 0:37:34 | |
is at odds with the Texans I've met so far. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
THUNDER RUMBLES | 0:37:38 | 0:37:40 | |
The next time I see David, he has his sights on a different target. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:59 | |
Bair are going after the Nation of Islam, | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
an African-American movement | 0:38:02 | 0:38:04 | |
that believes in both the Koran and the Bible | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
and are controversial for their links with black supremacy. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:11 | |
If you're after radical Islamists, | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
why are you going to the Nation of Islam? | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
Well, because the Nation of Islam is full of radical people | 0:38:15 | 0:38:19 | |
who are Islamic. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:20 | |
They... They have some different methods, | 0:38:20 | 0:38:25 | |
and the Nation of Islam is mostly African-American members. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:30 | |
They have some different ideology | 0:38:30 | 0:38:32 | |
compared to the Arab Muslims in North Dallas, | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
but when you get down to it, | 0:38:35 | 0:38:37 | |
it's all the same violent death cult, you know? | 0:38:37 | 0:38:42 | |
"If you're not one of us, you die." | 0:38:42 | 0:38:45 | |
So, that's why we're protesting Nation of Islam. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:47 | |
John is researching its current leader. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
Louis Farrakhan has called, on multiple occasions, | 0:38:54 | 0:38:58 | |
for a 10,000-man Muslim army to start a race war. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:05 | |
'The Koran teaches persecution is WORSE than slaughter. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:09 | |
'Then it says, we MUST rise up...' | 0:39:09 | 0:39:13 | |
-'Yeah!' -'..and kill those who kill us. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:17 | |
'Stop them and kill them | 0:39:17 | 0:39:21 | |
'and let them feel the pain of death that we are feeling.' | 0:39:21 | 0:39:27 | |
And he's preaching straight out of the Koran. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:32 | |
And that's supposed to be the same book | 0:39:32 | 0:39:36 | |
that Richardson Mosque says promotes peace. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:41 | |
They are promoting violence. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:45 | |
But on the eve of the protest, | 0:39:47 | 0:39:49 | |
an online war of words breaks out between the two groups. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:53 | |
John is worried that someone is going to get hurt... | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
..so, he arranges a meeting with the police. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:14 | |
I'm told it's off-limits, | 0:40:15 | 0:40:17 | |
making me wonder what's really going on. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:20 | |
We're ready to roll. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:22 | |
It's the day of the protest, and all is quiet... | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
..with only the Nation of Islam members visible, | 0:40:32 | 0:40:36 | |
standing guard outside their mosque. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
There's only one person on the premises that could speak | 0:40:40 | 0:40:43 | |
and I'm going to ask him, to go and see | 0:40:43 | 0:40:44 | |
if he would be willing to speak to you. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:46 | |
Hang tight, OK? | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
Outside the mosque, there's a tension in the air | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
and it's clear there are others here | 0:40:52 | 0:40:54 | |
who are not followers of the Nation of Islam, | 0:40:54 | 0:40:56 | |
but who are they? | 0:40:56 | 0:40:58 | |
Could you tell us about what's happening today, | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
-or what's happened so far? -What's happening here today | 0:41:00 | 0:41:02 | |
is we're having threats of protests from, er...a group. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:06 | |
They're misguided. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
I think they need a better education on who they're criticising | 0:41:08 | 0:41:12 | |
and who they're protesting against. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
We're not the aggressors, | 0:41:15 | 0:41:16 | |
but we will fight with those that fight with us. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
-Thank you very much. -Thank you. -All right. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:20 | |
If you turn around, | 0:41:20 | 0:41:21 | |
there's probably a lot of people you can get on camera. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:23 | |
-It'll be much more fun. -There you go, look. -There you go, right there. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
Out of nowhere, came dozens of heavily-armed counterprotesters, | 0:41:30 | 0:41:34 | |
looking very well prepared for conflict. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
If you're unarmed, if you do not have an arm... | 0:41:40 | 0:41:43 | |
Get that camera out of my face, man. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:45 | |
Back off, back off. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:46 | |
Get that camera out of my face, man. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:48 | |
These were not members of the Nation of Islam, | 0:41:50 | 0:41:52 | |
but allied militant black power groups | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
that feared an invasion of white supremacists. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
Why have you come out today? | 0:41:57 | 0:41:59 | |
We're here to monitor and observe the activities of Bair. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
That's primarily what our position is. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:04 | |
We heard that they threatened the South Dallas community. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:08 | |
We're here to stand in solidarity with the Nation of Islam | 0:42:08 | 0:42:11 | |
and recognise the brothers and sisters of the | 0:42:11 | 0:42:13 | |
Nation of Islam's God-given right | 0:42:13 | 0:42:15 | |
to practise religious freedom without getting impeded upon. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
An hour passed and there was still no sign of Bair. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:28 | |
Eventually, word started to filter out - | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
they weren't coming. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:36 | |
The white supremacists said they was coming to our neighbourhood, | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
but they didn't show up. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:41 | |
You know why they didn't show up? Because we were here in solidarity. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:46 | |
They didn't come when they said they was going to come. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
A few miles away and I find John back at Bair HQ, | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
but he doesn't look pleased. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
What happened was, we were told by the Dallas Police Department | 0:42:58 | 0:43:03 | |
not to show up to a protest today, | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
which was the Nation of Islam - | 0:43:06 | 0:43:08 | |
and now it's being put out all over the website | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
that the counterprotesters are showing up | 0:43:11 | 0:43:15 | |
and still protesting, where we were told to stand down | 0:43:15 | 0:43:18 | |
and we're being called the ones that were the no-show. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:21 | |
I'm pissed. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:23 | |
I hate to take you on that ride, | 0:43:23 | 0:43:24 | |
but you're about to see a side of me you don't want to see. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:27 | |
-Why? -Because I'm ready to go down there now, hunt them down | 0:43:27 | 0:43:30 | |
and beat the shit out of them. | 0:43:30 | 0:43:32 | |
They want to fight? I'll... I'm your huckleberry. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:35 | |
All right, we're getting ready to move out. | 0:43:41 | 0:43:44 | |
But John's too late. | 0:43:44 | 0:43:46 | |
We appreciate everybody that came out to support the mosque. | 0:43:46 | 0:43:49 | |
Hey, man, hey, man. Get that camera out of my face, man. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:53 | |
And with Bair not coming, | 0:43:56 | 0:43:57 | |
there's an air of triumph for the Nation of Islam supporters. | 0:43:57 | 0:44:01 | |
All right, come on, let's go, let's go. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:03 | |
Come on, come on. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:04 | |
The protest just finished up, | 0:44:05 | 0:44:07 | |
so we can't rally up and go down there, now. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:10 | |
We got caught with our pants down and we got screwed. | 0:44:10 | 0:44:14 | |
Right now, we need to actually do damage control right now, | 0:44:14 | 0:44:19 | |
because we were set up by DPD, | 0:44:19 | 0:44:21 | |
and get that fixed. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:22 | |
I'm sorry. I'm extremely pissed, | 0:44:22 | 0:44:27 | |
to say the least. | 0:44:27 | 0:44:29 | |
In the days that follow, David and John fall out. | 0:44:34 | 0:44:37 | |
John, it seems, was the only Bair member at the police meeting | 0:44:37 | 0:44:40 | |
and David thinks he may have bottled it, | 0:44:40 | 0:44:42 | |
worried about the aggression of the militant counterprotest. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:47 | |
Are you going to kick John out of Bair? | 0:44:47 | 0:44:49 | |
I have no idea. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:53 | |
We haven't gotten far enough in this process | 0:44:53 | 0:44:55 | |
for me to know that, one way or the other, yet. | 0:44:55 | 0:44:57 | |
-Yeah. -That's as honest as I can be. | 0:44:57 | 0:45:00 | |
I can't say, one way or another, right now, for sure. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:02 | |
But you've got something to replace him? | 0:45:02 | 0:45:04 | |
Well, I mean, yeah, | 0:45:04 | 0:45:06 | |
it's not the end-all, be-all of the whole movement. | 0:45:06 | 0:45:09 | |
If me and John decide to go separate ways, yeah, there is | 0:45:09 | 0:45:12 | |
other people out there, of course. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:14 | |
Does that mean that I'm going to need them? I don't know. | 0:45:14 | 0:45:17 | |
When me and him sit down and talk, if I say, "Hey, | 0:45:17 | 0:45:20 | |
"I would like to do things this way next time, instead of the way | 0:45:20 | 0:45:22 | |
"we did it this time," and he goes, "No, I want to do it the same way," | 0:45:22 | 0:45:26 | |
then I'm going to have to say, | 0:45:26 | 0:45:27 | |
"Well, no, I don't want to do it the same way. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:29 | |
And that's, kind of, how it's going to go. | 0:45:29 | 0:45:31 | |
He has talents and he has a lot of things that he brings | 0:45:31 | 0:45:36 | |
to the table, you know. But... If it doesn't get worked out, | 0:45:36 | 0:45:42 | |
in a reasonable amount of time... I mean, if it's creating dysfunction, | 0:45:42 | 0:45:46 | |
we would have to get rid of John. | 0:45:46 | 0:45:48 | |
With Bair in turmoil, | 0:45:56 | 0:45:58 | |
could there be an opportunity to draw the two communities together? | 0:45:58 | 0:46:02 | |
Omar wants a meeting with them. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:06 | |
There is no doubt in my mind, the more Americans that encounter | 0:46:08 | 0:46:13 | |
Muslims at a human level, the more this bigotry is going to disappear, | 0:46:13 | 0:46:19 | |
because statistic after statistic has shown | 0:46:19 | 0:46:22 | |
that Americans that have actually sat with Muslims | 0:46:22 | 0:46:24 | |
and known them on a human level are very unlikely to hold | 0:46:24 | 0:46:29 | |
these types of views about Muslims and things of that sort. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:32 | |
So, it's a united fight. We have to come together to | 0:46:32 | 0:46:34 | |
fight against all forms of violence, and we have to form alliances, | 0:46:34 | 0:46:39 | |
like-minded people that want to see a world of peace. | 0:46:39 | 0:46:43 | |
He has invited Franklin, who wants | 0:46:51 | 0:46:53 | |
to run for Congress on an anti-Muslim ticket, | 0:46:53 | 0:46:56 | |
to a roadside barbecue with Syrian refugees. | 0:46:56 | 0:46:58 | |
Is this the first time you've actually spoken | 0:47:00 | 0:47:02 | |
-to a Muslim in depth? -It will be, yes. | 0:47:02 | 0:47:04 | |
You have very strong views about them, don't you? | 0:47:04 | 0:47:07 | |
-I do, I do, yes. -Briefly, what are your feelings about Muslims? | 0:47:07 | 0:47:10 | |
That they are involved in an orchestrated plot | 0:47:10 | 0:47:15 | |
to infiltrate America, overthrow its government | 0:47:15 | 0:47:18 | |
and implement a global caliphate and global sharia. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:22 | |
-A total Islamic nation. -Are you going to tell him that? -Absolutely. | 0:47:22 | 0:47:26 | |
What do you think of them, when you see them? | 0:47:28 | 0:47:31 | |
-What do you think, when you look out there? -Distrust. I think they are... | 0:47:31 | 0:47:35 | |
I think this is fake, this is just a front. | 0:47:35 | 0:47:37 | |
"Oh, look at us, we're peace-loving Muslims. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:41 | |
"Hey, come on over, let's talk." | 0:47:41 | 0:47:43 | |
I'm ready, if we are. | 0:47:44 | 0:47:46 | |
Nice to meet you. | 0:47:53 | 0:47:54 | |
My name is Franklin. Omar, it's nice to meet you. | 0:47:54 | 0:47:56 | |
Are you willing to acknowledge that there is a problem | 0:47:56 | 0:47:59 | |
in the Muslim world, groups like Isis and Isil, | 0:47:59 | 0:48:03 | |
Al-Qaeda, Boko Haram - there's hundreds of them. | 0:48:03 | 0:48:06 | |
But one thing that's in common with every single one of them | 0:48:06 | 0:48:10 | |
is that they are Islamic, in some way, shape or form. | 0:48:10 | 0:48:13 | |
It is an underlying evil to the Islamic faith. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:17 | |
Characteristic of what I would attribute | 0:48:17 | 0:48:20 | |
to people who worship Satan. | 0:48:20 | 0:48:23 | |
Do I believe that there are radical groups that are using the religion | 0:48:23 | 0:48:27 | |
and that are doing terrible things in the name of him? | 0:48:27 | 0:48:29 | |
Yes. But the greatest victims of these groups are Muslim. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:32 | |
You might be surprised to hear this, | 0:48:32 | 0:48:34 | |
but I am actually on Isis's hit list. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:37 | |
All right? I have actually been targeted by them, | 0:48:37 | 0:48:39 | |
and at the same time, I'm being told by other people | 0:48:39 | 0:48:42 | |
that you're not doing enough to fight Islamic radicalism. | 0:48:42 | 0:48:44 | |
I'm like, "Look, I'm actually putting my life on the line." | 0:48:44 | 0:48:47 | |
And when I take my daughter to a mosque, my six-year-old daughter, | 0:48:47 | 0:48:50 | |
and she sees people holding guns and she comes home and she says, | 0:48:50 | 0:48:55 | |
"Why do they want to kill us? Why do they hate us?" | 0:48:55 | 0:48:58 | |
I mean, to me, that is extremism. | 0:48:58 | 0:49:00 | |
If you knew that the environment that you helped create | 0:49:00 | 0:49:04 | |
led someone to actually pull a trigger one of those Muslim kids, | 0:49:04 | 0:49:08 | |
an innocent Muslim, would you be able to sleep at night | 0:49:08 | 0:49:11 | |
knowing that you could have fuelled that? That that environment | 0:49:11 | 0:49:14 | |
you created could have could have led to that Islamophobia | 0:49:14 | 0:49:16 | |
which has claimed the lives of innocent people? | 0:49:16 | 0:49:19 | |
Omar is keen for Franklin to meet some of the refugees | 0:49:23 | 0:49:26 | |
he has been protesting against. | 0:49:26 | 0:49:28 | |
Can you tell Omar what you told me | 0:49:28 | 0:49:31 | |
about what you think of the Syrian refugees? | 0:49:31 | 0:49:34 | |
I have a fear that...all of them coming over are terrorists, | 0:49:34 | 0:49:38 | |
I guess, or in one way or another, support it. | 0:49:38 | 0:49:41 | |
I mean, I think there is an issue | 0:49:42 | 0:49:44 | |
and I think it is very plausible for Isis sending over nothing but... | 0:49:44 | 0:49:49 | |
So, do you not see that these people are just victims, | 0:49:51 | 0:49:54 | |
families that are fleeing war, they are fleeing conflict, they are | 0:49:54 | 0:49:58 | |
the greatest victims of these things that we're seeing on TV. | 0:49:58 | 0:50:01 | |
To us, it's all happening over there. | 0:50:01 | 0:50:03 | |
To them, this was their daily reality. | 0:50:03 | 0:50:07 | |
-She's adorable. -HE CHUCKLES | 0:50:07 | 0:50:09 | |
This little girl, she was in her living room | 0:50:09 | 0:50:12 | |
when a bomb fell on top of her and she had her leg taken away from her. | 0:50:12 | 0:50:16 | |
These are right in front of your eyes. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:19 | |
She's just a little girl. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:21 | |
I mean, when I was five, I wasn't worried about a bomb | 0:50:22 | 0:50:26 | |
or mortar going to hit my home. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:28 | |
I mean, it, kind of, puts into perspective | 0:50:28 | 0:50:30 | |
the reality of these types of situations - wars, civil wars - | 0:50:30 | 0:50:36 | |
and people trying to get away from them. | 0:50:36 | 0:50:39 | |
I'm willing to walk away reconsidering that | 0:50:40 | 0:50:44 | |
it's not all Islam. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:46 | |
When I see something like that little girl, it's hard to say no... | 0:50:46 | 0:50:50 | |
I wouldn't... I can say I don't want refugees, | 0:50:50 | 0:50:55 | |
but if that little girl was looking at me saying, | 0:50:55 | 0:50:58 | |
"Please let me into America, I want to escape this war," | 0:50:58 | 0:51:02 | |
I would be unable to tell her no. | 0:51:02 | 0:51:07 | |
I mean, you'd have to be heartless to see that | 0:51:07 | 0:51:10 | |
and see that type of situation and know that story, | 0:51:10 | 0:51:12 | |
and to still say, "No, you shouldn't be here, I don't want you here." | 0:51:12 | 0:51:17 | |
After being here for nearly a month, | 0:51:20 | 0:51:22 | |
this is the most positive experience I've had. | 0:51:22 | 0:51:25 | |
It's a memory I'm happy to depart with. | 0:51:27 | 0:51:31 | |
But then, everything changes. | 0:51:31 | 0:51:33 | |
Terrorist... | 0:51:35 | 0:51:37 | |
'Breaking news on today's terror attacks in Brussels. | 0:51:39 | 0:51:42 | |
'The first explosion happened at a check-in area | 0:51:42 | 0:51:44 | |
'used by international carriers, including American Airlines. | 0:51:44 | 0:51:48 | |
'Seconds after the gunfire, the first explosion...' | 0:51:48 | 0:51:51 | |
This is what they call for. This is exactly what they call for. | 0:51:51 | 0:51:55 | |
You know, anybody that wants to stick their head in the sand | 0:51:56 | 0:51:59 | |
and say, "Oh, this ain't going to happen here," | 0:51:59 | 0:52:02 | |
that's what Belgium thought. | 0:52:02 | 0:52:03 | |
You can't ignore the threats. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:06 | |
You've got to protect your citizens first. | 0:52:06 | 0:52:10 | |
And this is the whole reason why we do what we do. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:14 | |
And you wonder why there's so many people that have | 0:52:14 | 0:52:20 | |
jumped on the Trump wagon, to try to get the borders closed. | 0:52:20 | 0:52:24 | |
How many more people have to die, | 0:52:24 | 0:52:26 | |
how many more people have to get injured, before people wake up | 0:52:26 | 0:52:30 | |
and see what their rhetoric and their context is all about? | 0:52:30 | 0:52:33 | |
This is exactly what they've been preaching. | 0:52:33 | 0:52:37 | |
And you want that stuff here in America? | 0:52:37 | 0:52:40 | |
We can't leave this crap to our kids. | 0:52:40 | 0:52:42 | |
SIRENS BLARE | 0:52:42 | 0:52:44 | |
The attack forces David and John to settle their differences. | 0:52:50 | 0:52:54 | |
Bair is reborn. | 0:52:54 | 0:52:56 | |
It's like all organisations. You're going | 0:52:56 | 0:52:59 | |
to have some disagreements within the group. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:02 | |
The thing of it is that me | 0:53:02 | 0:53:05 | |
and David have been able to sit down and talk things out, hash it out... | 0:53:05 | 0:53:09 | |
You know, we'll have our tiffs, yeah, but we're not going anywhere. | 0:53:09 | 0:53:13 | |
And just seeing what happened in Brussels is just confirmation | 0:53:13 | 0:53:17 | |
that we need to be a little bit louder than ever before, | 0:53:17 | 0:53:22 | |
to try and get things going, while we still can. | 0:53:22 | 0:53:25 | |
For Bair, horrifying incidents like this | 0:53:31 | 0:53:35 | |
justify their very existence. | 0:53:35 | 0:53:37 | |
Every time there is an attack, it does help us refocus | 0:53:40 | 0:53:42 | |
and it will help us | 0:53:42 | 0:53:45 | |
forget the little disagreements that we have and get over | 0:53:45 | 0:53:48 | |
those little disagreements and move on from the main goal - | 0:53:48 | 0:53:52 | |
protecting what's ours. | 0:53:52 | 0:53:54 | |
They want to pay their respects to the 32 who died in the attack | 0:53:54 | 0:53:59 | |
and have swapped their guns for a cross. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:02 | |
How many more crosses will have to be put in the ground? How many? | 0:54:08 | 0:54:13 | |
CAR HORN BEEPS | 0:54:15 | 0:54:17 | |
But Omar isn't prepared for his community to accept responsibility | 0:54:22 | 0:54:25 | |
for any terrorist attack. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:27 | |
He has his own thoughts on where blame lies. | 0:54:27 | 0:54:30 | |
I would say a group like Bair would have more to do with | 0:54:30 | 0:54:34 | |
a violent incident taking place in the world than I do, | 0:54:34 | 0:54:38 | |
because I'm actually trying to stop that cycle. | 0:54:38 | 0:54:40 | |
They're feeding that cycle, feeding that carnage, | 0:54:40 | 0:54:43 | |
feeding that nonsense. They're feeding that clash | 0:54:43 | 0:54:45 | |
of civilisations. They're giving Isis the world that they want. | 0:54:45 | 0:54:48 | |
Isis wants this world to be Islam versus the West. | 0:54:48 | 0:54:52 | |
They're giving them that world. | 0:54:52 | 0:54:53 | |
They're letting them know that... | 0:54:53 | 0:54:55 | |
It's just like a video game. | 0:54:55 | 0:54:57 | |
Isis is player one and they just needed someone to press | 0:54:57 | 0:55:00 | |
and be player two. | 0:55:00 | 0:55:02 | |
Islamophobes are creating more Islamic terrorism. | 0:55:02 | 0:55:07 | |
CAR HORNS BEEP | 0:55:08 | 0:55:10 |