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Hello. Sorry to disturb you.

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Naomi Long from the Alliance Party.

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Yeah, uh-huh. I'm just calling about the election.

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'Politics is an all-consuming kind of a role.

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'I don't want to spend the rest of my life in Northern Ireland'

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throwing my shoes at the television and getting annoyed when I see

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things that I feel are wrong. I'm the kind of person -

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and I always have been the kind of person -

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who believes in trying to find solutions.

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Posters. Everywhere you look, there's posters.

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'They are huge demands to stand for election.

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'They're huge demands on family life.

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'They are huge demands on personal life.'

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The Ulster Unionist Party. That's myself, Doug Beattie.

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'But the prize is massive.'

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If you win, you get a chance to represent these people.

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Listen, lovely talking to yous, OK?

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Lovely talking to you. Sorry for taking your time up.

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No problem. You're all right.

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THEY CHEER

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I think it's an incredibly interesting job, but I really enjoy getting out there, meeting people,

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listening to their issues.

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I see myself as a natural problem solver.

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If I see an issue, I love to get involved in it and try to bring about a solution.

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I think that that works very well

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with being an elected representative

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and I think that if we do that, we can rebuild, perhaps,

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some of the trust that has been lost in the past.

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You know, we need to attract capable people into politics.

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We need to attract passionate, hard-working people into politics.

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We'll meet tonight just at about half eight at the house,

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just to kind of get our... Game plan?

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Yeah, get our game plan on.

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Yeah. And then everybody in bed, lights out by 11 o'clock.

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The people look at politics, they turn on the Assembly,

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they turn on the programmes, and they only see the same two men -

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and usually it is men -

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having the same argument that they've had for 20 years,

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and you know that certainly women and younger people mightn't think

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that that's, you know, something that they can possibly do.

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So, in that respect,

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it is bums on seats have to change a little bit.

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The line-up of the politicians they see needs to be more reflective.

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I spent every day in the last four years trying to really earn my seat

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and, you know, since then we've seen more and more young people come into

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politics, of all different backgrounds,

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which I think is really important,

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because I don't think that we're going to see the type of changes

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that we need in our society

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unless we have those different kinds of voices, you know,

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saying different things and representing different generations.

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Democracy, of course, is about people,

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trying to make sure that we're relevant

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to the people that elect us.

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And I know we've come from a background of violence, if you like,

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over the '70s and '80s and '90s,

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and so people see it as a black-and-white sectarian issue,

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sometimes, in Northern Ireland, but, of course, what happens up at Stormont

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is not about that at all. It's about education,

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it's about being able to deliver good health care,

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being able to bring more jobs into Northern Ireland.

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So to be relevant to people, I think, is the key part of a democracy.

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I believe in devolution.

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We need to get power off that hill down into our councils,

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through our councils,

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into communities and as close to the family unit as you can.

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We shouldn't have thousands of people leaving our shores,

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we shouldn't have people feeling that they can't achieve their full potential in Northern Ireland,

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but all those things are changeable if we have an Assembly

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that's more about delivery, more about policy development

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and more about actually changing the face of Northern Ireland,

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and much less about congratulating ourselves on historic handshakes.

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We have to move on from those days.

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If people listen, if people take account of what feelings are

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amongst their constituents,

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then we have a much better chance of delivering good policy for Northern Ireland

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than direct-rule ministers flying in for a day a week from London.

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What joins us together is the agreements that we've made

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over the course of the last 20 years.

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And I think it's very important that we all recognise that increasingly

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the world is becoming more cosmopolitan,

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and that requires all of us to be more broad-minded

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and more respectful of other cultures.

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I grew up in Markethill, which is just on the edge of South Armagh.

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In the '80s and '90s, it suffered a huge amount during the Troubles.

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It was, you know, a very politicised time right across Northern Ireland

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and I think, you know, for my generation,

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even though, you know, like, I was sort of ten in 1990,

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it was on the news all of the time.

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There was significant amount of discussion with it within families,

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I think, as well. So, yes, we were very politically attuned,

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you know, very, very conscious of what the issues were.

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So, I've got about 50 or 60 of these to put up.

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And the right way round, yeah!

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Really, my first proper engagement with politics came about at Queen's University,

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where when I came in I stood for election to the student council,

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through a lot of the passion and the anger

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and my very strong views on a whole range of issues.

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After working for...well, 15 years with one single determination

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to become a lawyer, I suppose I stepped back and said,

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"Right, I'm now a barrister. Where do I go from here?"

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And it was... It was actually quite a strange period of my life of,

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you know, having achieved something that I'd worked really hard for,

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I suppose, trying to find then something else which would

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drive me forward for the next while.

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There's a lot of similarities, actually, being a lawyer, a barrister and being a politician,

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in the sense of I'm listening to constituents.

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I'm helping and supporting them and giving them advice about how to

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navigate towards a solution that they want,

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but also that I am an advocate for them

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and that I'm working incredibly hard for them,

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and I think that that's what it should...

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You know, this job should be about.

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ACTIVISTS CHAT

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Some of our local activists here in Dromintee,

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we're just meeting up and dividing up roads between us,

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whatever we have left to cover,

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so we're trying to knock every single door and trying to talk to

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as many people as possible.

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But I suppose it's about trying to lift the profile of the election as well,

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to let people know it's on, so that we don't have a low turnout,

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and just so people are aware that they have to go out and vote on the 5th of May, so...

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I was born in 1991, so I was three at the time of the ceasefire

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and seven at the time of the Good Friday Agreement, but, you know,

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South Armagh growing up was one of the most militarised areas

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of Western Europe, so it was kind of inescapable.

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There was a very large,

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disruptive and unwanted military occupation,

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er, and that was quite evident in our everyday lives, and, you know,

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that was there right up until 2007, so it's not exactly, you know,

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ancient history at this stage, so it was always very, you know,

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present and to the fore of my thoughts,

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and I think that's probably what sparked my own interest in politics.

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Hiya! Hello, how are you? Megan Fearon.

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Hello, Megan. How are you? Nice to meet you. Brian...

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Hello, Brian. How are you? How's things?

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Best of luck. Thanks very much.

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Great to see new blood.

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I know! Thank you.

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Well, we're really just out seeing if there's any issues

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or any questions that we can answer for you or...

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Maybe the roads. Yeah, I know, yeah.

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There's a lot of wear and tear on the roads. Yeah. You're not the first person to mention that.

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Well, really, emigration's the big issue I'm worried about at the minute.

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A lot of young people that I've taught over the years,

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eight out of ten are in Australia or England or the United States.

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You know? I know.

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I come from quite a large Republican family, and, you know,

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we've always been quite active in our community and that's one of

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the things that I was kind of brought up with,

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to place a massive importance on the strength of community,

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and I think that's probably similar across rural areas

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throughout Ireland, but particularly so where I'm from. You know,

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there's a real close-knit sense of resilience and determination

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to try and make our community better.

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The Ulster Unionist Party have got good policies.

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They're progressive policies, and they are policies that work, so,

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you know, if you can look at that and maybe consider giving me a vote,

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having read that. But certainly if you get a chance

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to look at the policies the Ulster Unionist Party have,

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I think it'll be good for the country in the long term.

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Is that OK? Yeah. OK.

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Whenever I was younger, I used to play on the grassed area here.

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I particularly remember the Queen's Silver Jubilee in '77,

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er, where we set up a, um, street party on there,

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then we played the adults against the kids football match,

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all on the grass there. It was absolutely fantastic, and I remember it.

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When you're smaller, you always remember it as being so much bigger than it is.

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That's all done.

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'I'm the son of a soldier,

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'so I've sort of led a bit of a nomadic lifestyle.'

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I hope you're not backtracking on yourself now.

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'I've sort of travelled around'

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with my father and mother, him being a soldier, um,

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around the world and then, at the age of ten,

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he finished his time in the military and we moved back

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to Northern Ireland. We moved to a working-class area in Portadown.

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Um, that's myself, Doug Beattie, for the elections on the 5th of May.

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'And I grew up as a young boy, really just getting to know

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'what Northern Ireland was all about and the situation there,

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'because it was all very new and very alien to me.'

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I got to know where I stood in society, as an Ulster Protestant.

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Hiya! I understood then that there was Catholic Nationalists,

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who lived on the other side of the wall, who we didn't mix with,

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so I learnt all of these things, but they never changed my feelings of,

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er, equality and inclusion, so that never changed that -

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that remained throughout.

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This one's for sale.

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So I used to live in this house, um, with my mother, father

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and six kids - three girls and three boys.

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And it's all a little bit surreal to come back, um,

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to the house that I grew up in

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and I remember with such huge fond memories -

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and terrible memories too, because, you know,

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burying your mother at the age of 14, 15

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is quite traumatic, with cancer,

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and it was pretty aggressive cancer and it wasn't nice.

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My last sort of year and a half in here,

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with just me and my father living in here on my own, and my father, um,

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was grief-stricken with the loss of his wife.

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He turned to alcohol and there was only me to sort of

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keep him going in life. And I remember he used to come

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and wake me up at two o'clock in the morning

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to come down and sit with him while he played songs

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that him and my mother used to listen to, um,

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and I would go to bed and have to get up for school in the morning,

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and school's the other end of town, the Portadown Tech, so, you know,

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it was a difficult time but a nostalgic time, as well,

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as a young boy of ten.

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MUFFLED OVERLAPPING SPEAKERS

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That's my point.

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This would be much more plausible if you voted for the teacher exception

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and if you'd voted for integrating the teacher training in one place,

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neither of which any of the parties up here, who were in the Executive, did!

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I'm going to address exactly that. In practice, you did nothing!

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We need to say... So, again,

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my sister lives 300 yards away from

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her brilliant, local Catholic primary,

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so she's not rejecting... Why shouldn't she send her child there?

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So, one, integrated, as you know,

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isn't just about deleting the Catholic sector...

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No, no, of course not!

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'Politics was always a thing, was always in our house.

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'It was never in any way shoved down our throats.'

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It was a very open household,

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a lot of discussion and different viewpoints

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and I suppose the central one

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being that there was an alternative to how things were going,

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that, while you could have your identity,

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and it was a house that was, you know, proud of its Irishness.

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Irish was spoken in the house.

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We were, you know, very culturally engaged.

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The growing up I had, off the Lisburn Road,

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was very different in terms, primarily, of integration, you know.

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All faiths and none lived side by side in South Belfast,

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and that was something that probably shapes your politics much more

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than if everybody in your street

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is of a similar background or maybe viewpoint.

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I think a lot of the hope and optimism

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that I remember from 18 years ago is gone, and we CAN get it back,

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but I suppose those parties who are steering it at the moment had to be

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dragged kicking and screaming into reconciliation and partnership,

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and continue to sort of poke each other in the eye

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and I don't think that was envisaged

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when we thought that people would work together in partnership.

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We were supposed to be building up trust with each other.

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I became quite politically aware around the Good Friday Agreement.

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I was 17 when it was signed,

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and I suppose the central concept that I grew up with,

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particularly in our family,

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that you can be a Nationalist or you can be a Unionist,

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but there are acres of common ground to work with your neighbours,

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and that didn't seem to be reflected in politics,

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and that simple concept

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was something that I felt WAS lacking in that period, so,

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if you have the opportunity to have a crack at it and try and put

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a different viewpoint, certainly, I feel you have to take it.

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Alliance is standing 23 candidates in all 18 constituencies.

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Welcome, Naomi. Good afternoon to you. Thank you very much, William.

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What are you hoping to do in this Assembly, if you are elected,

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if the party increases its vote?

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What we want to see is an end to the division,

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to the delay and to the stagnation in Stormont.

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Naomi Long is here until one o'clock taking your calls today...

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'With politics part of life, I think,

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'having been born at the end of 1971,

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'so right at the beginning of the Troubles,

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'it was impossible to grow up in Northern Ireland

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'without politics being part of life.'

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And I remember incidents when I was growing up

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where my mum took a stand as a woman living alone

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in a very predominantly Loyalist community,

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where she felt people were doing things that she didn't approve of.

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I remember there were workmen who came from the Republic of Ireland

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to work opposite our home

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and in response to that,

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people started to paint kerbs in the street and so on,

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deliberately to make them feel uncomfortable.

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She stood up to that and challenged it and said it was wrong,

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wouldn't contribute to any money to the painting,

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and asked them not to paint the kerbs outside our house.

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Now, that might seem like a very trivial thing but, actually,

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when you're living in a community where speaking out can have

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consequences, it was quite a brave thing to do and, as a result,

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we got a massive Union flag painted on the road outside house

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with "remember 1690" and "no surrender",

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so we were taught our lesson - that you weren't meant to speak out.

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But she did!

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There will be responsibilities for ALL ministers

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in delivering this, whether it is...

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'She instilled in me the belief that we all have

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'an individual responsibility to stand up for what we believe in.

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'I guess my mum's politics...'

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I would say she moved from being a fairly traditional Unionist

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actually to quite an avid supporter of Alliance,

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in terms of what I was doing,

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but also in terms of what the party was doing,

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because it resonated with that part of her

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that really believed that justice mattered,

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that treating people with respect mattered,

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that the rule of law mattered.

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Those were things that I was raised to believe in and those are things

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that I found reflected in the Alliance Party when I joined.

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When the election comes,

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there'll be people casting a vote

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who weren't even born on Good Friday 1998.

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The Good Friday Agreement is no longer a tender young child.

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It's not even the age of a quarrelsome, difficult teenager.

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It's now attaining its maturity

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and it really is time that every political party grew up

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and ensured that we delivered on the promises that people expected.

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We have a peace process that's solid.

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We have a political process that's there and stable, and we have people

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working together. And it's fantastic.

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And we should all be very grateful for the people who got us here.

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It doesn't mean we should be happy with our current circumstances.

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We should be very impatient for change. We should say,

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"What are you actually achieving and delivering and changing?"

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That's where people are, I think.

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It's great that we have the Assembly,

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but we now need an Assembly that actually delivers.

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I think the authors of the Agreement in '98 did not envision a position

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where any party would become as dominant

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as the DUP and Sinn Fein have been.

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But if we were in England, if we were in Scotland,

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if we were in Wales, if we were in the Republic of Ireland,

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I think the voters would look at the record of the last two mandates

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and say, "I tell you what,

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"take a break, guys, take a rest.

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"We're not desperately happy with what you've achieved,

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"we're going to give somebody else a go."

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That's what happens in a proper democracy.

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There's no other part of the United Kingdom that has enforced

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mandatory coalition.

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In other words, the elections that are going to be taking place

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are going to be about putting back,

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who would say, the DUP and Sinn Fein in perpetuity,

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for as long as they like,

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because they HAVE to be brought together.

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That's what the Westminster government had decided.

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That's not democracy, as far as I'm concerned.

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I suppose the truth is this -

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that if you say to politicians anywhere across the world,

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"We can create for you a system

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"whereby you will always be in government,

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"you will never be in opposition,"

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most politicians, being selfish individuals, will say,

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"Sounds good to me." But it's not good for the people.

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Well, I think sometimes people can be very complacent

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about where we are at the moment and I think,

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if you look at the situation here

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in the north of Ireland for the last 20 years,

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we have moved from a place of intense conflict and militarism

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on the streets to a place of peace.

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You go out onto the streets of Belfast now,

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and other parts of the north, everywhere has changed.

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Yes, there are still people out there

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who are opposed to the peace process

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and there are people out there who are involved in criminality,

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but it bears no relationship whatsoever

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to what the situation was 25 years ago,

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and I think that's been a massive achievement.

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Now, in Northern Ireland, we're in a very good place of stability.

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My children don't know what it was like in the '70s, '80s and '90s,

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and I'm quite content that that is the case.

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They're growing up in a period of stability.

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Yes, there's much more to do, I know all of that,

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but I think we are in a good place now

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and we now need to keep moving forward in terms of reform.

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I want to see the Assembly reformed.

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I want to see more dynamic politics.

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I want to see government be by voluntary coalition.

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But in order to do that,

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we have to go back to why those institutions

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are there in the first place,

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and that means recognising the fact that we had a history of

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discrimination against Nationalism

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and those who held Nationalist viewpoints in this place,

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so the mandatory coalition was needed to build that trust.

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Now, that trust is still lacking,

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so, if people really want to see huge reform,

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if they want to see a voluntary coalition,

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they need to find ways of reassuring those in our society

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who have long memories,

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and who want to be sure that a voluntary coalition

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isn't code for Unionist rule.

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I think we have to be very cognisant of the fact that we are

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a post-conflict society,

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and our peace process and our political institutions are delicate

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and we can't do anything that will in any way damage that.

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Obviously, there is provision there for an opposition

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going into this next Assembly election, but for our part,

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Sinn Fein are serious about going into government.

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We're running for election to actually be in government

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and I think it's clear, judging by some other parties' manifestos,

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that they are already gearing up for an opposition,

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but we want to go into government and continue to deliver for people

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and to continue to deliver on the peace that we already have.

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No matter where we move to in the next number of years,

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perhaps in the next number of decades, you know,

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our policy will still require agreement.

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You know, agreement requires compromise.

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It requires making sure that your key principles, your key policies,

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those red-line issues, you know, that they're not compromised,

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but that, on other issues, then you need to take into account

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what are the important issues to somebody else?

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That's a lengthy process,

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but it is a process that is worth doing in order to get the outcome

0:22:110:22:14

and, you know, I think people need to be realistic about that.

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Hello, sorry for disturbing you.

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Could I drop off this leaflet? You can indeed.

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Thank you. That's great, thank you very much.

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Not at all. Well, that's just the copy, as you know, of our policies.

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Yes. And my number's on the back, so anything I can do to help,

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or any questions or anything, give me a call.

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That'll do lovely. OK, thank you very much.

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Lovely to meet you. Bye-bye.

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'I think it's an incredibly interesting job.

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'At times, it can be, I suppose, a little strange

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'in terms of what you have to do.

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'You would go up to a random door, rap the door'

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and you've no idea what's going to be behind it, you've no idea

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what questions, you don't know if that person's going to be friendly

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or not friendly, so it is strange, but you do get used to it.

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And I've rapped... You know, since about January,

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I've rapped about 13,000 doors at this point.

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Hello, sorry for disturbing you.

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'A lot of what I've done,

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'over the course of the last five months that I've become an MLA,'

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is really to try to get the message out to the people of South Belfast

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who I am, what I'm prepared to do, what I want to do,

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the fact that I am a hard worker,

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somebody who's very passionate about issues, so, really,

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a lot of it has been about communication with constituents,

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just to make it absolutely clear for them who I am,

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so that they can make an informed choice as well.

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That was very difficult.

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It was very challenging to understand the ins and outs of

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what exactly had happened.

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I was very conscious of that, even as a child.

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There were four young children in the home

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and my father was the person

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who had worked, so very, very quickly, you know, immediately,

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he had lost that income

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and, you know, that was very, very challenging as well.

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It was also incredibly challenging, I suppose, for my mum, you know,

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to deal with the fallout from what had happened.

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It was a story that got a huge amount of coverage.

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I think there was, you know,

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a lot of this kind of idea of your family and your life

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being kind of all over the evening news, that kind of scrutiny,

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the issues surrounding that,

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so I think that was very difficult for her,

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as a woman who was I think slightly younger than me at the time,

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with four young children, and having to navigate her way through that.

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Whenever I decided, when I was 11 years of age,

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I was going to be a lawyer, I don't know why,

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I think I'm sure it was connected to what had happened and I suppose

0:24:370:24:40

the emotional issues that were ongoing at the time,

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but my mother never turned round and said to me,

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"Why don't you pick something a bit more realistic?"

0:24:450:24:47

She made it very clear, "If that's what you want to do, you CAN do it."

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And I think, for me, the lesson I've taken from that

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is how important that parental role about supporting aspirations,

0:24:530:24:57

but also, in a realistic way, saying,

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"If you want to make your aspiration a reality,

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"then you do need to work at it,"

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because the one critical difference is,

0:25:020:25:04

hard work can get you to where you need to be.

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PLAYERS AND SUPPORTERS SHOUT

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Well...

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They're all in the colours.

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'I do definitely feel a certain sense of responsibility,

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'being a young woman in politics, particularly here,

0:25:220:25:25

'where there are so few of us,'

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because I know, growing up,

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I would have really looked up to a lot of our female politicians

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and a lot of women within the Republican movement in general.

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Is this the first half?

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Yeah. It's only on? Right.

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I never really had my sights on being in frontline politics,

0:25:380:25:42

especially not at such an early age.

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It was a massive honour to be asked by the party

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to put my name in forward. I initially said no a few times.

0:25:460:25:48

I was very young at the time, I was only 20,

0:25:480:25:51

so it was obviously daunting and it was challenging.

0:25:510:25:54

But I'd always been an advocate for having more young people and more

0:25:550:25:59

women in politics, so I felt I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't, you know,

0:25:590:26:02

at least try and take the opportunity

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and see how it went for me.

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Stormont is not the most welcoming place for a woman, first of all,

0:26:100:26:13

and it's certainly not overly welcoming for young people either,

0:26:130:26:17

and so I tick both boxes.

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There was quite a lot of, you know, hostility going in.

0:26:180:26:23

People made it quite clear that they thought I shouldn't be there,

0:26:230:26:26

that I didn't deserve my place.

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I had people saying that I was only there because I was a woman,

0:26:270:26:31

which is an insult to me.

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I'm there because I was the right person for the job.

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So it wasn't the most welcoming place to go into.

0:26:350:26:38

And it did take a while to kind of adjust to those surroundings, but,

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you know, it does kind of... I think, one day, it just hit me -

0:26:420:26:45

I'm there to do a job and I'm there to represent the people of my area

0:26:450:26:48

and I'm not going to let anyone and their outdated views

0:26:480:26:51

stop me from doing that.

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PLAYERS AND SUPPORTERS SHOUT

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WHISTLE BLOWS

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WHISTLE BLOWS

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At the age of 16, I decided I wanted to be a soldier.

0:27:070:27:11

The military was a tradition.

0:27:110:27:13

I didn't have that in my mind's eye that I wanted to do,

0:27:130:27:17

but in that moment in time,

0:27:170:27:19

I decided that, to make my father proud,

0:27:190:27:21

that I would join the Army and I did join the Army,

0:27:210:27:23

and I didn't tell my father till the day before I left that I'd joined

0:27:230:27:26

the Army, and I think, in that moment,

0:27:260:27:28

I saw something in my father's eyes,

0:27:280:27:30

which I hadn't seen for quite some time, and that was pride.

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GUNFIRE

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Yeah, fire now. Fire mortars now.

0:27:460:27:47

Over the top.

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'I finished my last operational tour of duty as a soldier in 2011.'

0:27:490:27:53

That was in Afghanistan in 2011.

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It was another hard tour of duty.

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I want you to engage with the 50...

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Here for 24 hours, and this is three days so far so, no,

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we're going to be here for a while, I think.

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Fighting has got this feeling where you're incredibly heightened

0:28:050:28:09

and the adrenaline is really pumping,

0:28:090:28:11

and you can hear the bullets whizzing past your head

0:28:110:28:13

and you feel virtually invincible,

0:28:130:28:15

but then it ends.

0:28:150:28:17

It's like coming off a drug.

0:28:200:28:23

And when you come off a drug, it can lead you to absolute tears,

0:28:230:28:26

or feelings of worthlessness or feelings of depression.

0:28:260:28:29

When I think about killing another human being,

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I can't be proud of that.

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And when you're there, when you're fighting, there's reason,

0:28:360:28:39

there's rationale for it, and you can give credence to it,

0:28:390:28:42

but when you come back and you're with your family or friends

0:28:420:28:45

or you're having a pint in the pub and you think about it,

0:28:450:28:47

you can't give it a rationale.

0:28:470:28:49

I say to people that, when you're standing in Afghanistan,

0:28:490:28:52

you cannot imagine yourself standing in Tesco's,

0:28:520:28:54

but when you're in Tesco's,

0:28:540:28:56

you can't imagine yourself standing in Afghanistan.

0:28:560:28:58

There's just real sort of light and dark.

0:28:580:29:01

What I haven't lost is that feeling of wanting to serve the people

0:29:050:29:08

and whenever I came back to Northern Ireland

0:29:080:29:11

and I see that serving my country through the military

0:29:110:29:13

is no longer an option,

0:29:130:29:15

I still want to serve the people

0:29:150:29:17

and I want to serve the people of my own hometown now,

0:29:170:29:20

and the best way to do that is in the political arena,

0:29:200:29:23

so councillor first and, um, now as a MLA,

0:29:230:29:27

I want to bring those values and standards

0:29:270:29:29

that I have learnt in 34 years in the military.

0:29:290:29:32

I want to bring them to Stormont,

0:29:320:29:34

I want to use them in Stormont, I want to have integrity,

0:29:340:29:36

I want to show them honesty,

0:29:360:29:38

I want to show them selfless commitment and respect for others,

0:29:380:29:41

and I... Above all else,

0:29:410:29:43

I want to make sure that the people of this great town

0:29:430:29:46

and Upper Bann are represented properly.

0:29:460:29:50

If you tell people, "I'm going to do something for you,"

0:29:590:30:03

and you don't do it, then you deserve to get kicked out.

0:30:030:30:07

But if you hedge your bets all the time,

0:30:070:30:10

and don't tell anybody that you're really going to do anything,

0:30:100:30:14

then the people just get frustrated.

0:30:140:30:16

That's why they don't vote.

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If you look at the patterns, in 1998,

0:30:200:30:23

81% voted in the referendum on the Belfast Agreement.

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In the last Assembly election in 2011, in my own constituency,

0:30:270:30:32

just under half of all eligible voters did not bother.

0:30:320:30:36

Now, I hear some people say we should make it compulsory,

0:30:360:30:39

as they do in countries like Australia. I say no.

0:30:390:30:42

If there is a problem, it is not with the voter,

0:30:420:30:45

it's with the politicians.

0:30:450:30:47

It's up to us to make the proposition,

0:30:500:30:53

to deliver the outcomes that make people

0:30:530:30:56

feel that politics and government,

0:30:560:30:58

and particularly devolved government at Stormont,

0:30:580:31:00

is something worth supporting.

0:31:000:31:03

People sometimes say,

0:31:060:31:08

"Oh, it doesn't really matter if I vote or not."

0:31:080:31:10

But, really, I take the view that if you want to criticise,

0:31:100:31:14

if you want to say what you think of your politicians,

0:31:140:31:17

then you really do have to vote

0:31:170:31:18

because then you're giving your view

0:31:180:31:20

as to what way you want to see the country going forward.

0:31:200:31:23

Bad politicians are elected by good people who don't vote.

0:31:230:31:26

We need to engage in the political process.

0:31:260:31:29

People's frustration at the lack of delivery from Stormont

0:31:290:31:31

isn't cured by staying at home.

0:31:310:31:33

It's actually cured by becoming involved in the political process.

0:31:330:31:37

I want to see people understanding that, if you come out and vote,

0:31:390:31:42

you can actually change society.

0:31:420:31:44

Opposition structures in Stormont

0:31:440:31:47

will actually begin to open that door

0:31:470:31:49

to people understanding that we can have an alternative.

0:31:490:31:51

As long as we have power-sharing and equality provisions enshrined,

0:31:510:31:54

we can begin to have an alternative government

0:31:540:31:57

forming in Northern Ireland.

0:31:570:31:58

The incentive for many people to even bother voting is diminished,

0:32:000:32:05

and that is why, in Northern Ireland,

0:32:050:32:07

I believe the turnout has been falling,

0:32:070:32:09

cos if you say to people, "Oh, yes, you can have an election,

0:32:090:32:12

"but you can't change your government,

0:32:120:32:14

"you can't vote a party out of government,"

0:32:140:32:16

why would you bother voting?

0:32:160:32:18

It would be liberating for democracy to bestow upon us the rights

0:32:200:32:25

taken for granted everywhere else and, thereby,

0:32:250:32:28

I think we would see an increased turnout at the polls.

0:32:280:32:31

If you analyse the reasons why people don't vote,

0:32:310:32:35

and why, during the course of the last term of the Assembly,

0:32:350:32:39

we had these different problems, where for three years, almost,

0:32:390:32:44

the Executive were being described by commentators

0:32:440:32:47

and by even other politicians as being dysfunctional,

0:32:470:32:51

so I think all of that has a deep, motivating impact

0:32:510:32:56

on the electorate, and the only way to change all of that

0:32:560:32:59

is to make politics work.

0:32:590:33:01

I think people have a right to say, "Are we productive?"

0:33:010:33:05

And I don't think we've been as productive as we could be.

0:33:050:33:08

The problem is, when you give politicians power,

0:33:080:33:11

they guard it jealously.

0:33:110:33:12

I do still think we have a section of our politicians

0:33:120:33:16

who still want to waste time

0:33:160:33:18

rehashing the old arguments that we've been having for decades.

0:33:180:33:23

You know, I have seen some of our politicians almost, you know,

0:33:230:33:27

a relief, when we were back talking about flags.

0:33:270:33:30

It's like, "This is what we know, what we got into politics for."

0:33:300:33:34

People will feel strongly about issues -

0:33:370:33:40

that's part of democracy.

0:33:400:33:42

Should that be about fracking or should it be about animal rights,

0:33:440:33:48

should it be about flags issues, you know,

0:33:480:33:50

this is a democratic society where people have the right to come out

0:33:500:33:53

and protest and make their voices heard.

0:33:530:33:56

I think that must be... In fact,

0:33:560:33:58

I would go so far as to say that that should be protected.

0:33:580:34:01

If that crosses into illegality,

0:34:020:34:04

then I think that then becomes a big challenge, that isn't right,

0:34:040:34:08

and, you know, if people want their particular view to be heard,

0:34:080:34:12

then they need to come out and vote

0:34:120:34:13

for people who support that particular view,

0:34:130:34:16

and that's the way democracy will work.

0:34:160:34:18

Really, what we need to do is try and find a basis

0:34:200:34:23

where we can respect difference.

0:34:230:34:25

And I think that's the biggest problem in Northern Ireland,

0:34:250:34:28

is people do not respect difference.

0:34:280:34:31

I still don't understand why we're still complaining about flags,

0:34:310:34:34

I still don't know why we're complaining about parades,

0:34:340:34:37

I still don't know why we're complaining about bonfires,

0:34:370:34:41

and all of this architecture which just makes our society combative.

0:34:410:34:45

Until we actually elect people in politics

0:34:490:34:52

who are sometimes willing to be controversial,

0:34:520:34:55

even within their own party,

0:34:550:34:57

I don't think we'll really gain the respect of the public

0:34:570:34:59

for the work that we do.

0:34:590:35:02

We've got to be willing to take a stand,

0:35:020:35:04

and I have met people who say to me,

0:35:040:35:06

"I fundamentally disagree with you on issues,

0:35:060:35:08

"but I respect the fact that you stand up for what you believe in."

0:35:080:35:12

And for me, that is actually more valuable than anything else

0:35:120:35:15

because your integrity is something that you don't lose in an election.

0:35:150:35:20

'The Alliance Party has borne the brunt of Loyalist anger and protests

0:35:200:35:25

'since Monday night's controversial vote on flying the Union flag

0:35:250:35:28

'at Belfast City Hall. In its aftermath,

0:35:280:35:31

'a death threat has been issued against Naomi Long,

0:35:310:35:34

'the party's MP for East Belfast.

0:35:340:35:37

'She was visited in the early hours of this morning by police,

0:35:370:35:40

'who've advised her to leave her home

0:35:400:35:42

'and stay away from her constituency office.'

0:35:420:35:45

I will not let that threat deter me from serving my constituents.

0:35:450:35:49

I will not let it influence the decisions that my party takes.

0:35:490:35:52

We will take our decisions based on principles,

0:35:520:35:55

based on furthering our beliefs and our objectives,

0:35:550:35:57

and delivering a shared future,

0:35:570:35:59

and we will not be deterred from that by violent people.

0:35:590:36:02

As you all know, we're now 18 years after the Good Friday Agreement.

0:36:040:36:08

We want to build on our clear vision of an inclusive, fair,

0:36:080:36:12

progressive society, where everyone is treated with respect

0:36:120:36:15

and with dignity.

0:36:150:36:17

I believed that, by getting involved in politics,

0:36:190:36:22

I was being put in a privileged position,

0:36:220:36:24

but with that privilege comes a responsibility and, every day,

0:36:240:36:28

there are people in my constituency who live with that fear and threat

0:36:280:36:32

who don't have the opportunity to articulate an alternative view.

0:36:320:36:36

They gave me the responsibility to do that on their behalf and so,

0:36:360:36:39

regardless of what happened outside, I had a responsibility to them

0:36:390:36:44

to continue to stand up against that kind of violence and intimidation.

0:36:440:36:48

That doesn't make it easier to deal with when you go home

0:36:480:36:51

and you close your door at night. You're human.

0:36:510:36:54

But at the end of the day,

0:36:540:36:56

you have a job to do and you've got to do it.

0:36:560:36:58

When we first moved here,

0:36:580:37:01

it was actually just around 2002,

0:37:010:37:03

so I received the first death threat I had in politics

0:37:030:37:06

just after we'd moved.

0:37:060:37:08

We just wouldn't sit at the front of the house because of

0:37:080:37:11

concerns around security and so on.

0:37:110:37:12

When you're in politics and you're visible, people know where you live.

0:37:120:37:16

They know the neighbourhood you live

0:37:160:37:17

in and they know where your house is.

0:37:170:37:19

There's really nothing you can do about that.

0:37:190:37:21

It's simply just where you are,

0:37:210:37:23

so you just have to take the best precautions you can, I guess.

0:37:230:37:25

With the kids, it definitely brings on an extra challenge.

0:37:370:37:40

You're never really off the clock in politics and, you know,

0:37:400:37:43

you're quite often pushing the kids in the swing and on the phone,

0:37:430:37:46

talking about HMO legislation or whatever you're doing,

0:37:460:37:49

and in the middle, you have to go,

0:37:490:37:50

"Put that down!" or, "Don't eat that!" or whatever -

0:37:500:37:53

the kind of orders you need to bark

0:37:530:37:55

at a two-year-old and a four-year-old. But it's hard to do.

0:37:550:37:57

I think it's one of the things that I hear from families all the time.

0:37:570:38:01

You know, getting decent, affordable childcare

0:38:010:38:05

that actually matches the hours

0:38:050:38:07

that a lot of people work in a lot of jobs now.

0:38:070:38:09

OK, there's Daddy. There's Daddy.

0:38:090:38:12

'It is hard and I think probably the same

0:38:130:38:16

'for a lot of people in jobs that aren't nine to five.'

0:38:160:38:18

But there are benefits, too.

0:38:180:38:20

No matter how miserable your day has been,

0:38:200:38:23

and there is negativity in politics, the kids, when you get in,

0:38:230:38:27

they don't care what just happened,

0:38:270:38:29

they don't care what happened in the phone call you were just on

0:38:290:38:32

and there's no chance that you could wallow in it,

0:38:320:38:35

so if you do come in and it hasn't been the best day,

0:38:350:38:38

you snap out of it very quickly.

0:38:380:38:40

OK, well, we'll go in twos.

0:38:410:38:43

Guys, we're going to do Malone. I think we're broadly on course.

0:38:430:38:46

We got loads of Stranmillis finished.

0:38:460:38:48

Done last night, so we'll just go back...

0:38:480:38:51

'This kind of four, five, six weeks around the election

0:38:510:38:53

'is pretty chaotic because I am out knocking the doors every night.'

0:38:530:38:57

It's not just lining up your canvassing volunteers

0:38:570:39:00

and your leafleting volunteers, it's baby-sitting as well.

0:39:000:39:03

I do feel a wee bit guilty.

0:39:030:39:05

One, I'm not seeing the kids nearly as much as I want to

0:39:050:39:08

and I don't want to look back on and think, "Gosh, where was I?"

0:39:080:39:11

Hello, how are you? How's tricks? Good. How are you? Not too bad.

0:39:110:39:14

'There's a bit of a mad couple of hours, picking them up,

0:39:140:39:17

'taking them where I'm going,'

0:39:170:39:19

then getting the canvass team out,

0:39:190:39:21

so, yeah, the five to half six period is chaotic,

0:39:210:39:25

so I'm looking forward to that bit ending.

0:39:250:39:28

All the weeks of campaigning and knocking on doors

0:39:450:39:48

has come to a head now

0:39:480:39:49

and it's up to us now to make sure we get our vote out

0:39:490:39:52

and that people have enough reasons to come and vote today.

0:39:520:39:55

I have nine polling stations to cover across South Armagh,

0:39:550:39:58

so I'll be visiting each polling station hopefully a couple of times

0:39:580:40:01

to try and meet as many voters as possible.

0:40:010:40:03

Megan! How are you today? Grand. Best of luck.

0:40:030:40:06

People are happy to see a new face,

0:40:060:40:08

happy to see a woman represent the area,

0:40:080:40:11

happy to see us raise local issues,

0:40:110:40:13

and we have been working hard over the last four years.

0:40:130:40:15

I've always said elections aren't won

0:40:150:40:17

just in the last few weeks coming up to it,

0:40:170:40:20

it's the hard work that you do in the years before it,

0:40:200:40:22

so I'm fairly confident that we're going to do well.

0:40:220:40:24

I suppose I've done it so many times now that I'm sort of used to seeing

0:40:320:40:36

my name on a ballot paper.

0:40:360:40:38

I mean, even as a politician,

0:40:380:40:40

you recognise that it is a privilege

0:40:400:40:42

to be able to be part of that process and, hopefully,

0:40:420:40:45

lots of other people will take that opportunity today,

0:40:450:40:48

because it's the only opportunity we have

0:40:480:40:49

to make Northern Ireland different.

0:40:490:40:51

It's the only chance we get to make change.

0:40:510:40:53

I'm about to go in and cast my vote.

0:40:560:40:58

I'm pretty decided, I think I'm going to vote for Hanna 1.

0:40:580:41:01

Yeah, I've been thinking about it a lot.

0:41:010:41:03

We don't agree on everything

0:41:030:41:05

but I think she's done enough to get my vote.

0:41:050:41:07

I suppose you don't know what's going to happen,

0:41:130:41:15

like, I'm junior minister up until ten o'clock tonight.

0:41:150:41:18

So I suppose, for the first time in a long time,

0:41:180:41:20

I'll be unemployed at 10.05pm.

0:41:200:41:22

So that's a strange feeling as well.

0:41:220:41:24

But you just work as hard as you can.

0:41:240:41:27

I think I'm trying to be pretty philosophical about the whole thing

0:41:270:41:30

and upbeat, so, hopefully, everything will come out OK.

0:41:300:41:33

Hello there. This is the second time we've met!

0:41:330:41:36

You were at the door! Yeah, good to see you. Good to see you.

0:41:360:41:40

It literally couldn't have been a nicer night to poll on.

0:41:430:41:46

Good weather and people are down on scooters and walking dogs

0:41:460:41:48

and all sorts of things.

0:41:480:41:50

The dogs are not registered to vote, I did check! But...

0:41:500:41:53

I suppose this is when we are a bit demob happy, you know.

0:41:530:41:56

We know that, in about an hour,

0:41:560:41:58

it's home time and possibly a glass of something

0:41:580:42:02

and maybe ring an Indian, or whatever,

0:42:020:42:04

anything that can distract us until tomorrow morning,

0:42:040:42:06

when it's the day of reckoning.

0:42:060:42:09

Today, you'll find out who's in line to take the decisions,

0:42:170:42:20

make the laws and take responsibility.

0:42:200:42:23

What they've done now is they've emptied out all the boxes

0:42:340:42:37

and we've done a sample tally.

0:42:370:42:40

As you can see it's a big, long... A big, long list there.

0:42:400:42:44

But there are six seats and I'm in second or third place,

0:42:440:42:47

so there will be a lot going on in transfers.

0:42:470:42:49

If I'm elected, it won't be for a few counts yet.

0:42:490:42:52

In the media world, it's as if I've disappeared...

0:42:520:42:56

Things are looking reasonably positive.

0:42:560:42:58

I think it's been a good day for the DUP right across Northern Ireland.

0:42:580:43:01

That's what we're hearing at this stage.

0:43:010:43:04

So we're hopeful that all of our candidates will stay in

0:43:040:43:08

and in South Belfast, it's looking as if there's a good chance

0:43:080:43:11

the DUP could get two.

0:43:110:43:12

It will come down to the last seat

0:43:120:43:14

but it looks like we're definitely in with a chance there.

0:43:140:43:17

As the deputy returning officer for the Belfast East constituency,

0:43:170:43:22

the number of first preference votes given for each candidate

0:43:220:43:25

was as follows...

0:43:250:43:27

I find the count is probably

0:43:270:43:28

the most difficult piece of the election, to be honest,

0:43:280:43:31

because at that point, you're finding out whether what you've

0:43:310:43:34

been hearing on the doors, the feeling you've been getting

0:43:340:43:36

when you're out canvassing, whether the work you've put in

0:43:360:43:39

is going to be returned the way you'd hoped. And, as I say,

0:43:390:43:42

there's a lot of disappointment in a count centre,

0:43:420:43:44

that's always going to be the case.

0:43:440:43:46

..4,230...

0:43:460:43:48

If you look at it, there will be people standing here today

0:43:480:43:51

who might lose their job

0:43:510:43:53

and they're going to lose their job not in private, in an office,

0:43:530:43:56

but in public, with a camera in their face.

0:43:560:43:59

It's pretty brutal. So, erm...

0:43:590:44:01

I'm not a fan of the count.

0:44:010:44:04

But you endure it to get to the end result.

0:44:040:44:06

Naomi Long, Alliance Party,

0:44:090:44:11

5,482.

0:44:110:44:13

CHEERING

0:44:130:44:16

The few weeks leading up to the election is tiring,

0:44:340:44:36

so to have it all kind of over almost in the blink of an eye

0:44:360:44:40

in the last two days,

0:44:400:44:42

it's quite unbelievable, but this is my first election,

0:44:420:44:45

so even the whole experience of the posters and everything

0:44:450:44:48

has been new for me, but this, in particular, the count,

0:44:480:44:50

is surreal and it's actually such an honour

0:44:500:44:53

to see people putting their votes beside my name

0:44:530:44:56

and to vote for Sinn Fein and to vote for our ticket

0:44:560:44:59

that we ran in this campaign, so it's really exciting

0:44:590:45:01

and it makes me really proud, actually, and really just happy

0:45:010:45:05

that people have put their faith in us.

0:45:050:45:07

The number of first preference votes

0:45:110:45:13

given for each candidate was as follows...

0:45:130:45:16

Paul Berry, 1,663.

0:45:160:45:21

Cathal Boylan, Sinn Fein, 6,822.

0:45:210:45:26

Megan Fearon, Sinn Fein, 6,838.

0:45:260:45:31

CHEERING William Irwin...

0:45:310:45:32

I've just been elected on the first count.

0:45:480:45:51

Absolutely overjoyed.

0:45:510:45:52

Came in at 6,838 votes, so just 19 over quota

0:45:520:45:56

so absolutely delighted.

0:45:560:45:58

It's actually quite emotional at the minute.

0:45:580:46:00

My family are all here, my friends are here

0:46:000:46:01

and it's just...it's such a nice time -

0:46:010:46:03

because I've been in the Assembly for four years,

0:46:030:46:05

to have it actually, officially endorsed by the people

0:46:050:46:08

and endorsed so strongly as well, by the people of my own area,

0:46:080:46:10

it's just a really proud feeling to have

0:46:100:46:12

but...not nervous about going back at all.

0:46:120:46:14

Looking forward to getting stuck in and dealing with issues.

0:46:140:46:18

I'm confident that the people of Portadown

0:46:310:46:34

have come out to support one of their own.

0:46:340:46:37

Doug has served as a soldier,

0:46:370:46:40

he has served as a councillor,

0:46:400:46:42

and I am confident that he will soon be serving us as an MLA.

0:46:420:46:47

We are here for Doug.

0:46:470:46:49

We are here working as a team,

0:46:490:46:51

as we have worked from the beginning

0:46:510:46:54

and although his team are here, backing him, we miss him dreadfully.

0:46:540:46:58

But our thoughts are with him and we're doing this for him.

0:46:580:47:03

I'm surrounded by women!

0:47:080:47:10

You should have seen it this morning.

0:47:100:47:11

The return for you, it must feel good to be back in the constituency.

0:47:130:47:16

Yeah, it does. It's been a lovely campaign, actually.

0:47:160:47:18

It's been nice to be kind of back engaged in local politics

0:47:180:47:21

after a short break of a year,

0:47:210:47:24

but it's been really good to be back involved

0:47:240:47:27

and I'm just looking forward now to getting to work up in the Assembly.

0:47:270:47:31

Claire Hanna, SDLP, Social Democratic and Labour Party,

0:47:310:47:35

4,516. 4,516.

0:47:350:47:40

APPLAUSE

0:47:400:47:43

Emma Little Pengelly, Democratic Unionist Party, DUP,

0:47:430:47:47

4,511.

0:47:470:47:50

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:47:500:47:52

The following candidate has reached the quota

0:47:540:47:57

and is deemed elected - Claire Hanna.

0:47:570:47:59

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:47:590:48:01

That being the case, there are only two candidates remaining

0:48:030:48:06

and two seats to be filled,

0:48:060:48:08

therefore Emma Little Pengelly and Christopher Stalford

0:48:080:48:11

are also deemed elected. CHEERING

0:48:110:48:14

The undertaking is as follows...

0:48:470:48:50

to support the rule of law unequivocally, in word and deed,

0:48:500:48:53

and to support all efforts to uphold it.

0:48:530:48:56

To work collectively with other members of the Assembly

0:48:560:48:59

to achieve a society free of paramilitarism.

0:48:590:49:02

To challenge all paramilitary activity

0:49:020:49:04

and associated criminality.

0:49:040:49:05

To accept no authority, direction or control

0:49:050:49:08

on my political activities, other than my democratic mandate,

0:49:080:49:12

alongside my own personal and party judgment.

0:49:120:49:15

I don't describe it as a career. That's not what it really is for me.

0:49:190:49:23

It's not what it's about.

0:49:230:49:24

I actually would describe it more as a vocation.

0:49:240:49:26

I'm still youngest MLA here

0:49:260:49:28

but I still have four years' experience,

0:49:280:49:29

which is madness, really, but it really does mean a lot.

0:49:290:49:34

I'm very proud to represent my area,

0:49:340:49:37

I'm very proud to represent the party

0:49:370:49:39

and I take it as a great privilege

0:49:390:49:40

and it's not something that I underestimate.

0:49:400:49:42

I've been given a massive opportunity

0:49:420:49:44

that not a lot of people have or will ever get,

0:49:440:49:46

so I don't intend to waste it.

0:49:460:49:48

There's a lot of anxiety about whether you're going to be elected.

0:49:520:49:55

You have to believe that you are going to be, or you'd give up.

0:49:550:49:58

You certainly wouldn't have the mental energy

0:49:580:50:00

to stay on the campaign trail for months, as we did.

0:50:000:50:03

I suppose, just before they started to open the boxes,

0:50:030:50:07

just a deep, deep knot in your stomach

0:50:070:50:10

because everything was resting on that.

0:50:100:50:12

Mine was... Yeah, less of a cliffhanger.

0:50:120:50:15

Once the boxes were opened, we knew I'd polled reasonably well.

0:50:150:50:18

Personally, the result was satisfying and relieving

0:50:200:50:23

and I suppose I was co-opted in ten months ago

0:50:230:50:27

and I haven't really switched off since then,

0:50:270:50:30

so it's nice to have that out of the way

0:50:300:50:32

and to have a bit more headspace to actually think politically.

0:50:320:50:35

Elections, vital as they are to the democratic process,

0:50:350:50:38

do probably direct a lot of energy

0:50:380:50:42

that could be used to actually getting things done.

0:50:420:50:45

I think probably the most stressful time

0:50:550:50:57

was that night just before polling day.

0:50:570:50:59

I think it was just trying to sit and assess how everything had gone.

0:50:590:51:02

You knew that really, you'd been...

0:51:020:51:04

You'd knocked your last door or you'd put the last piece of literature through

0:51:040:51:07

and there was very little else that you could do at that point

0:51:070:51:09

apart from stand at the polling stations.

0:51:090:51:12

You do go through a lot of self-doubt

0:51:120:51:15

throughout that quite surreal process,

0:51:150:51:17

so in a sense, I suppose, your first emotion is almost relief

0:51:170:51:19

that in a way, you know, that you did work hard

0:51:190:51:23

and just really grateful that people have come out and supported you

0:51:230:51:26

and that people want you to be their advocate

0:51:260:51:28

and their representative.

0:51:280:51:30

That is an incredible privilege

0:51:300:51:31

and certainly one that I want to take full opportunity of,

0:51:310:51:34

you know, to bring about what positive changes I can.

0:51:340:51:37

My grandson, Cameron, passed away the day before the election.

0:51:450:51:52

Right now, it's still incredibly difficult for me

0:51:520:51:55

to think about the loss of Cameron

0:51:550:52:00

and signing the register as an MLA, the Thursday after the election,

0:52:000:52:06

I was very close to saying that I can't do it

0:52:060:52:09

and was very close to leaving the building at that time,

0:52:090:52:13

but people who have gone through this type of bereavement

0:52:130:52:15

will understand that time helps.

0:52:150:52:19

But one week after his death,

0:52:190:52:21

and just a few days after we had laid him to rest,

0:52:210:52:24

it was...it was just the most difficult experience

0:52:240:52:28

that I'd been through in my life.

0:52:280:52:30

And I've done a lot. You know, I've seen a lot

0:52:300:52:32

and I've seen death at close quarters,

0:52:320:52:35

but I wasn't prepared for it to knock on the door

0:52:350:52:37

the way it did that day.

0:52:370:52:39

It's just holding me back a little bit right now.

0:52:400:52:46

You know, so to say that I'm full steam ahead,

0:52:460:52:51

I don't think I am.

0:52:510:52:52

I think that grieving process is still ongoing,

0:52:520:52:56

that battle between career and family is still being fought

0:52:560:53:01

and I'd hope that my constituents will understand that

0:53:010:53:05

and give me a little bit of grace and time

0:53:050:53:09

to be able to come to terms with that.

0:53:090:53:11

I very much felt that I wanted to come back.

0:53:160:53:18

I still have a lot of passion, a lot of things that I wanted to do

0:53:180:53:21

and being elected on the first count like, that was, for me,

0:53:210:53:24

just a really positive experience

0:53:240:53:26

and a nice way, I guess, to come back to politics.

0:53:260:53:28

My ambition is for that liberal society -

0:53:300:53:33

wanting to see Northern Ireland as a more normalised place

0:53:330:53:36

in order that everyone can benefit from the peace that we had.

0:53:360:53:39

That's why I joined the party in '94.

0:53:390:53:42

It's why I became an elected representative in 2001

0:53:420:53:46

and it's why, in 2016, I decided to come back,

0:53:460:53:51

because for me,

0:53:510:53:53

that is the biggest job that Northern Ireland needs to do.

0:53:530:53:56

We need not just to change how we do politics

0:53:560:53:59

but we need to change how we live as a society.

0:53:590:54:01

Society has to be all-inclusive,

0:54:080:54:10

in terms of the Northern Ireland that I want

0:54:100:54:15

and, I think, most people want.

0:54:150:54:17

If we are a settled people, then you can do things.

0:54:170:54:21

Then you can move on

0:54:210:54:23

and then you can accept many challenges and get over those,

0:54:230:54:27

so I just want to be as settled as a people, and content, as we can.

0:54:270:54:32

There's no such a thing as utopia.

0:54:320:54:34

I think the public have decided to embrace the future.

0:54:380:54:41

I think they want to live together, they want to work together,

0:54:410:54:44

they want to socialise together.

0:54:440:54:46

They want to be educated together.

0:54:460:54:48

They want to see a future that, actually, is based around

0:54:480:54:51

a sound economic policy, a good education system.

0:54:510:54:55

Their... The public, I think,

0:54:550:54:56

want to see politicians catching up with them.

0:54:560:55:00

I think we can do it, but we have to be much more forward-thinking.

0:55:000:55:03

We have to get out of our silos and actually work together

0:55:030:55:06

and I think that's a very possible thing to achieve.

0:55:060:55:10

It is possible that we could produce a better political culture.

0:55:130:55:18

I think if we wait for it to evolve,

0:55:180:55:20

it may proceed at the pace of evolution,

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which is very narrow shifts generation after generation.

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I think we can't depend upon that.

0:55:270:55:29

We need a much more definite and firm commitment

0:55:290:55:31

that we will change this society faster and fairer

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and that that will be a key priority in the immediate future,

0:55:350:55:38

not something that waits for generational change

0:55:380:55:41

over 50 or 100 years.

0:55:410:55:42

I would like Northern Ireland to be

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one of the most attractive little countries in the world.

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And that would be measured by proper peace,

0:55:540:55:58

the absence of paramilitaries and the associated criminality

0:55:580:56:02

and organised crime.

0:56:020:56:03

It would be a country where people are glad that they're born here,

0:56:030:56:08

that they want to live here, they want to come back here,

0:56:080:56:11

even if they are going away for universities or for jobs,

0:56:110:56:15

that people want to invest in, that they want to come and visit,

0:56:150:56:18

that they want to come and settle in.

0:56:180:56:20

I think, you know, in many ways,

0:56:200:56:22

what everybody needs is a spirit of generosity.

0:56:220:56:26

We all have to recognise

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that where we were in the past was a terrible place.

0:56:270:56:31

Where we've come from in the course of the last 20 years

0:56:310:56:34

has been a far, far better place.

0:56:340:56:36

And where we'll be 20 years from now will be a far, far better place.

0:56:360:56:40

And we could do all of that,

0:56:400:56:41

holding on to our political allegiances.

0:56:410:56:43

I mean, I'm no less an Irish Republican.

0:56:430:56:46

Arlene Foster is no less a Unionist.

0:56:460:56:49

But it really comes down to our ability to, er...

0:56:490:56:53

..our ability to accept that and respect that

0:56:550:57:00

and continue to work together

0:57:000:57:02

to ensure that we are delivering for everybody

0:57:020:57:04

and...I think we can do it.

0:57:040:57:06

It is about encouraging, motivating, inspiring young people,

0:57:080:57:13

as I've said, to be proud of coming from Northern Ireland,

0:57:130:57:16

to give them a sense of hope.

0:57:160:57:18

If people have confidence in themselves

0:57:210:57:24

and are proud about where they come from,

0:57:240:57:26

I think it does lead to ambition

0:57:260:57:27

for the place where they live as well

0:57:270:57:29

and I hope that people do have ambition for Northern Ireland

0:57:290:57:32

because I think it can do great things.

0:57:320:57:34

Well, at 20 minutes to five,

0:57:460:57:49

we can now say the decision taken in 1975 by this country

0:57:490:57:53

to join the Common Market

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has been reversed by this referendum to leave the EU.

0:57:550:58:01

Good morning, this is BBC Breakfast. Morning, Dan.

0:58:440:58:46

Morning, Jenny!

0:58:460:58:47

In the sports news, we have the latest on the Welsh rugby team,

0:58:470:58:50

Poppy's sports day, and news on Andy Murray.

0:58:500:58:53

The headlines coming up, but our next guest is really quite special.

0:58:530:58:56

Jack, the toast's burning. Welcome, Daniel Radcliffe.

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