Donald Trump: Scotland's President


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It's a year since he was elected.

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Are you used to it yet?

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I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States.

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-So help me God.

-So help me God.

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Congratulations, Mr President.

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President Trump is half Scottish.

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His mother was born here.

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But his relationship with Scotland has been full of controversy.

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Show me a part of Scottish society that came out the better

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for Donald Trump having arrived - I don't think there is one.

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More than a decade ago, he came here to build

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what he said would be the world's greatest golf course...

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Any golfer that comes here is in awe of what we've created

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and what nature has let us create.

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..but has the Trump resort delivered what was promised?

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I think the one thing that should be said about it

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is the people putting it forward

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did not live up and honour the agreements

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they'd made to the Scottish people.

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This is the story of Scotland's difficult relationship

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with President Trump.

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Donald Trump is Scottish enough

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to qualify for our national football team,

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yet he's drawn far more protest than praise

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in the country of his ancestors...

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..and maybe that's why getting to speak to him has proved so tricky.

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Glenn Campbell from BBC Scotland.

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Have you got a moment to have a word?

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Absolutely not. What are you doing here?

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You're fake news. Get out of here.

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Get him out of here. Hey, get him out of here.

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I cover Scottish politics, and, over the last decade or so,

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that's also meant covering Donald Trump

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and his battle to build a golf resort near Aberdeen.

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There's nothing like it.

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Good. I hope you enjoy it.

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I hope everybody enjoys it.

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Good to be back in Scotland again?

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Great to be back in Scotland.

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CAMERA SHUTTERS CLICK

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Now, nobody knew Trump could do that, right?

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That's a pretty good shot.

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Go back more than a century

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and this is where the story of Donald Trump and Scotland began.

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As the President likes to remind us, his mother was a Scot.

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My mother was born, as you know, in Stornoway -

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and I think I'm doing Scotland a tremendous favour,

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and I think my mother would be very, very proud of me.

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Mary Anne MacLeod was born on Lewis in 1912

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and grew up across the bay

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from the island's capital, Stornoway.

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Her father had a little post office and shop in town.

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They had a croft there.

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With a big family,

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there was certainly no doubt most of them would have to leave.

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Mary Anne Trump, Mary Anne MacLeod, as she was,

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is an example of somebody who left these islands

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for a new life in the New World, if you like. Why do you think she left?

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Why do young people want to leave?

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Because they want a job somewhere else.

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Because they want something new,

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because they want to be away from their parents for a while.

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They want to see the world.

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Mary Anne came home to the island throughout her life...

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..and she maintained a strong connection with her church.

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This is where Donald Trump's mum worshipped as a child.

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She'd walk four miles

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to attend Sunday services in Gaelic here in Stornoway -

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and we're told the family had their regular pew

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in the upper gallery, but that Mary Anne,

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when she returned to the island in later years as Mrs Trump,

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would sit towards the back, over here.

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In case anyone is in any doubt about Donald Trump's Scottish heritage,

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it's all recorded in the church's records.

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So, here, in 1913, we've got Mary Anne,

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daughter of Malcolm MacLeod and Mary Smith of Tong, born May 1912,

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and baptised in this very church in the following year.

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The church organist remembers seeing Mrs Trump in the congregation.

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I think that the last time I saw her,

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I noticed that she was talking in her native Gaelic,

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so, she never forgot her roots,

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she never forgot what would have been her mother tongue.

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That seems incredible, after maybe 60, 70 years.

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She obviously was a remarkable person,

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and...she loved returning back every year to visit.

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Donald Trump was not quite such a regular visitor to Lewis.

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In fact, he came once, as a boy, and that was it

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until his high-profile homecoming in 2008.

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I've been hearing about Stornoway and Lewis for many years

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from my mother, and it's very much as I thought.

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It's beautiful in every way.

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I wanted to see it again, for the second time.

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The first time, I was very young -

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but I wanted to see it a second time,

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and I'm very glad I did, and I'll be back again.

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Eyewitnesses said he spent about 90 seconds in his ancestral home...

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..but the fact that the Donald came

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caused far more fuss than Lewis is used to.

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The level of interest was quite noticeable,

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because a lot of people gathered to see his plane coming in,

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and when he was down at his relatives' house,

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there was a level of interest then.

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He hadn't visited the island many times,

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so I think a lot of people were a bit sceptical about it,

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maybe thought it was just drumming up support

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for some of the projects he had in mind -

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and many felt, I think,

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there was a touch of the less than serious about it,

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and he was just sort of showing face to further his interest elsewhere.

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The Western Isles are unique, set apart by geography,

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by the Gaelic language and culture,

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and by the relative strength of religion.

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The way of life here is a world away from New York,

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where Donald Trump was born and brought

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up by a mother immersed in island values.

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Values like respect for other people, genuine compassion,

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concern to help other people practically...

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..and a sense of what community life is like on an island.

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Values like those, I think,

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would have been very much part

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of what he would have been brought up with.

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Do you think he has rejected those values?

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Well, I'm not saying...

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I wouldn't say he's rejected them,

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but possibly found them more and more difficult to follow through

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in his business work, or now, in his political life.

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I don't think the island, the folk here,

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would ever say it's wrong to be wealthy

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or wrong to aspire to wealth,

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as long as you don't make that your God.

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The Western Isles have riches of their own.

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Natural beauty, unspoiled, an incredible sense of peace,

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a slower pace...

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..and all that Mary Ann MacLeod left behind.

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When Donald Trump's mother set out across the Atlantic for America,

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she swapped the hills and machair for the skyscrapers of Manhattan,

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the peace and tranquillity of island life for the bustle and brashness

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of the big city,

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and the subsistence way of life the MacLeods had known for generations

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for a new pursuit of wealth and power

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when she married Fred Trump.

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This is where Mary Anne arrived in 1930.

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The 18-year-old worked as a maid and sent money home to her family...

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..and her fortunes soon improved,

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as her son's biographer explained

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outside one of the many Trump-branded buildings in New York.

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When she met Fred Trump, it was almost a gift from heaven.

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In the 1970s, Fred Trump, Donald's father,

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had wealth in excess of 200 million.

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This made him one of the wealthiest people in America, if not the world.

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She was a strange combination of penurious but also flashy and showy.

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So she would drive around from building to building

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in a Rolls-Royce to collect the coins

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put in the automatic washers and dryers at Trump buildings.

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How much of an influence was Mary Anne MacLeod,

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or Trump, as she became, on her second son?

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I think that she taught him the value of getting attention.

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You know, his mum was an attention-seeking woman.

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If there was a party, she was the centre of attention -

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and I think Donald inherited that desire, and also that ability.

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Donald Trump is as bold and brash as New York itself,

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his aggressive style moulded by the city he calls home.

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Photographer Harry Benson moved here from Scotland in the 1960s.

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He's taken pictures of every US President since Eisenhower,

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and has known Donald Trump for more than 40 years.

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Here's Trump with his mother.

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That's his brother's wife.

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So, this is Trump's first wife, Ivana, is that right?

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Ivana, yes. I was in a restaurant

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about a month ago with my wife and a friend...

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..and she was on the table across from me,

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and, as I'm leaving, said, "Harry, come here," gave me a kiss -

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and I'm no more than six inches apart, and she says to me,

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"Shit happens."

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-Ivana?

-Yes.

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Now, that's not saying he's doing a good job...

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How well did you get to know Donald Trump down the years?

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Yeah, fair enough.

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You know, he was always quite easy,

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and...

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He was quite pleasant.

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He loved being photographed...

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..and...

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Then again, you've got friends, you know...

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You know they are not fit to be Prime Minister.

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Donald Trump falls into that with me.

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When Donald Trump started planning

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his new golf resort in Aberdeenshire,

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Harry offered him some location advice.

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It's the coldest place you can ever find.

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-Aberdeenshire?

-Yeah.

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I said, you know, you should have gone to the west of Scotland.

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Donald Trump didn't publicly parade his plans to invest in Scotland

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straight away, but in the months

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after New York's Tartan Day celebrations in 2005,

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the then First Minister caught wind of what was going on.

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We heard that...

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..he was looking for one of his next investments

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to be somewhere in Europe.

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When it was suggested that I meet him, on a visit to New York,

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the possibility that he could choose Scotland rather than somewhere else

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in Europe for his next big investment,

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it seemed like an opportunity that was worth at least exploring.

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In that meeting, Jack McConnell found out

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just how strange doing business with Mr Trump could be.

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When we had the media conference in the lobby of Trump Tower,

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he hinted there was a microphone,

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that he was taping the media exchange...

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..and I thought, "Oh, that's interesting."

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So, when we went behind the scenes to sit down and have lunch together,

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my first question was, "Where's the microphone?"

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And the microphone was in his tie, it was in the knot of his tie,

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and he explained that this was something he did on a regular basis.

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He occasionally used some of the recording as backdrop

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for The Apprentice programme.

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Were you alarmed by that?

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Well, I wasn't alarmed. I was a bit amused.

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It seemed a really strange thing to be doing -

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but I wasn't having it. So, the ties came off...

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..and were deposited outside the room.

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A US property tycoon, seeking to spend big money in Scotland.

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Well, that's the sort of thing

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that gets politicians and government agencies really excited.

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Back in 2005, Jack Perry's job

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was to make this kind of investment happen.

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At that stage, Jack, how seriously did you take it?

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At that stage, very serious.

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I mean, he was going to do it.

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Pretty certain, by that stage,

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that he was prepared to make the investment.

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He really liked the piece of ground...

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..and had, by that stage,

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done an awful lot of homework on the project.

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And what did he want from you?

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Actually, he certainly wasn't looking for a penny

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of government money, you know?

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He wasn't looking for government subsidy or support in any way.

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We offered him courtesy,

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as we would to any prospective major investor in Scotland.

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Aberdeen was booming when Donald Trump decided to come here,

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but, even then, this area was desperate to diversify its economy

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beyond oil and gas.

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PHONE RINGS

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Good evening, Marcliffe Hotel and Spa,

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Anna speaking, how may I help you?

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Local hotel owner Stewart Spence got behind Trump's resort.

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He felt sure it would make the north-east of Scotland

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a more attractive place to visit.

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I was on the board of Grampian Enterprise at the time,

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and I knew that they'd been doing a feasibility study for somebody

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but, not even as a board member, did I know who it was.

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So when it was finally announced

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that it was going to be Donald Trump,

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I couldn't believe it. I knew that this was a man

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who wouldn't do anything unless it was the best in the world,

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and that was always what he was known for.

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And, so, Donald Trump came to Scotland to buy the Menie Estate,

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just north of Aberdeen -

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but why here?

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Mr Trump had been shown some photographs

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of the extraordinary stretch of land

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along the Menie Estate,

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and he made a decision to come and see it first-hand,

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and he had been looking for a pristine stretch of linksland

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to build his vision of the world's greatest golf course -

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and he was just blown away.

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But there was a problem.

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Some of the land he'd bought

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was under protection as a Site of Special Scientific Interest.

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The shifting sand dune system at Menie

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was one of the finest examples of its kind in the UK.

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So, looking north, we can see the Balmedie dunes and sand domes,

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and those sand domes are highly mobile.

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They move northwards under the prevailing winds here.

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In exactly the same way,

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to the north we have the Menie sand dune system,

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which are a massive sand dome, which also move north,

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at substantial speeds.

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Up to 11 metres per year across an area of about 15 hectares.

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So, this is very much a living landscape?

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It is, it is. It's a dynamic...

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It's almost like a wilderness landscape

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with a minimal amount of human interference.

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It's hard to get planning permission

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to develop a protected sites like Menie,

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but Donald Trump doesn't take no for an answer

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and he was sure the economic opportunity he was offering

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would be too good for Aberdeenshire to turn down.

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We're talking about 7,000 jobs,

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we're talking about hundreds of millions of pounds of investment.

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The course itself would be extremely expensive to build.

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The whole project will be an extremely expensive project.

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A billion-dollar project at least.

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In this case, 2 billion or £1 billion

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to come into Aberdeenshire, to come into Scotland.

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The numbers were repeated so often they became firmly established.

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It would be a £1 billion development creating thousands of jobs.

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This quiet stretch of coastline

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would become a world-famous golf resort

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with two pristine courses, a big hotel and hundreds of homes.

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It was a tempting offer -

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but was it more attractive than the natural habitat it would replace?

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That was the decision for the small group of councillors

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who took the final vote.

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The planning committee was not asked to vote

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on whether the applicant was a nice man.

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We were being asked to take a land use planning decision,

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and it was a 7-7 tie -

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and I had voted for the motion to refuse,

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and I used my casting vote for the same motion the second time,

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and that was the council's decision, to refuse planning permission.

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He used his casting vote, so, in effect, he voted twice,

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to throw the investment opportunity out.

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I lived in Aberdeen at the time, and there was a public outcry.

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I called them traitors because they couldn't see the bigger picture.

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I think it sends out a devastating message

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that, you want to do big business,

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don't do it in the north-east of Scotland.

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Thank you.

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I was profoundly dismayed, I must admit.

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I found it hard to credit.

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You're saying no to Donald Trump?

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At this time, remember,

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this was before he was involved in politics

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and had the kind of toxic brand that he has now.

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Within days of Trump's plans being thrown out,

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First Minister Alex Salmond stepped in.

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As the local MSP,

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he met Trump representatives at the Marcliffe Hotel

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and put them in direct contact with Scotland's chief planner.

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The very next day,

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the Scottish Government called in the application,

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allowing the council's decision to be reconsidered.

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Mr Salmond's critics accused him of misusing his office

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and interfering in the planning process,

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but a Holyrood inquiry later found he'd not broken the rules.

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As one of Trump's neighbours at Menie,

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David Milne always objected to having a golf resort

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on his doorstep.

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How did you feel about that decision by the Scottish Government

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to call in this application and breathe new life into it?

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Disbelief. I couldn't believe they'd been stupid enough

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to fall for the PR story they'd been given.

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When we heard the story and we heard that Alex Salmond had been involved

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with the Marcliffe meeting, it added a different context to it,

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bearing in mind that Alex Salmond is himself an economist.

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It made us quite sad and made us wonder what else is going on

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behind the scenes.

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# Aberdeen... #

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APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

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Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls,

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welcome to the first-ever show of Alex Salmond Unleashed on tour.

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In his show, Alex Salmond takes on President Trump.

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The President of the United States of America!

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Well, sort of.

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Thank you so much, what a wonderful audience.

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Thank you so much.

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It's so good to be here, what a wonderful place to be.

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So nice to see you again, Alex. I'm sorry for what happened.

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But is Alex Salmond sorry he went out of his way to help Donald Trump

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secure his development?

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I was the constituency Member of Parliament.

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I had an obligation as the constituency Member of Parliament

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to do what I thought was best for the local area.

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So, my intervention as a constituency MP

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was to try and take the matter so as it can be re-examined,

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as it eventually was, by a public local inquiry,

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which then made recommendations to the government,

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and I was out of the decision-making loop -

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but many, many people in the north-east of Scotland

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thought this is just what we need to put tourism and golf

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in the north-east of Scotland on the map.

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A year later, after a local planning inquiry,

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the Scottish Government granted outline planning permission

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for the Trump Resort.

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Effectively, the Scottish Government,

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the Scottish ministers, called it in.

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They lodged the appeal for the applicant on his behalf -

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and, in the process, of course,

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they called into question their impartiality,

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because the only reason why you'd want to call it in at that point

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was to stop a refusal taking effect. They shouldn't have done it.

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With the benefit of hindsight,

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I suspect they feel they shouldn't have done it.

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I wouldn't have called it in.

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I think it should have been a local matter.

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-Why wasn't it?

-It would have been a planning minister's decision

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rather than the First Minister's decision -

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but my strong view, from a government point of view,

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would have been that without...

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..the local consent, he should find somewhere else.

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Well, I think you have to question my predecessor more closely.

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Firstly, the overwhelming majority of councillors, I think 90% of them,

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were in favour of the development.

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They'd got themselves,

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as the evidence to the Parliamentary committee makes it clear,

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from the chief executive, into a bind.

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If we had turned down the investment,

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we'd have been left - thinking more of the constituency here -

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sending a message to international investors that after courting you,

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after making him, as Mr McConnell did, a global Scot,

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then the investment wasn't good enough,

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and Scotland was the country that turned it down.

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So, I think if he kind of re-examines the record, he might...

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..amend his view.

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I think Alex Salmond is a tremendous representative

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for the people of Scotland. I think he's done a fantastic job.

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But the relationship between Alex Salmond and Donald Trump

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soon soured.

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You're going to have riots all over Scotland,

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because Alex Salmond is going to destroy

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the natural beauty of Scotland.

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Mr Trump strongly objected to an offshore wind farm

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being built near his proposed resort.

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Well, when somebody comes in and invests tens of millions of pounds

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in a certain area, and then all of a sudden that investment is...

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..hurt, I think other people will watch what's happened to me

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in Scotland and they won't be investing in Scotland.

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When his case was tested in Parliament,

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he came away with a Trump classic.

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Where is the clinical evidence,

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not an opinion, an empirical assessment,

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where is your clinical evidence?

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Who's produced it? Will you share it with the committee?

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First of all, I am the evidence.

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I think I'm more of an expert...

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You know what, I think I'm a lot more of an expert

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than the people that you'd like me to hire

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who are doing it to make a pay cheque -

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but I am an expert in tourism.

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I am considered a world-class expert in tourism.

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So when you say where is the expert and where is the evidence,

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I'm the evidence.

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Back home in America,

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the belligerent billionaire tried hard to block the wind farm.

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He fought the Scottish Government, which gave the turbines consent,

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through the courts and through the media.

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Four years ago, I was invited

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inside Donald Trump's New York headquarters

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to hear his arguments face-to-face,

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and I learned something about him that day.

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So, we came out of the lift and we were met by Trump's lawyer,

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and then the man himself came in -

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and no sooner had he said "Hi" than he turned to the lawyer

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to instruct him on the day's legal business.

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Now, I've no idea who the Trump Organisation were up against

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at that time or what the dispute was about,

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but Trump's instructions were really clear - "Shame him," he said.

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"Shame him into withdrawing."

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I thought that gave a real insight into his character.

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He wouldn't compromise, he was absolutely determined to win,

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and he didn't care who knew it.

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VOICEOVER: In our conversation, I was on the receiving end

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of the Trump hard sell.

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I spent a tremendous amount of money

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building what is now probably the greatest golf course ever built,

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and a lot of people are saying that.

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We are getting tremendous reviews, it's phenomenal for Scotland.

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Tourists are coming from all over the world,

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they're coming, and Aberdeen is booming.

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We have really done a great thing for Aberdeen.

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If you look at the hotels,

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if you look at the restaurants, they're full because of my course.

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I think we will have the Ryder Cup, I think we'll have the Open,

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I think we'll have many, many great tournaments over the years.

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I don't know if I'll be around to see them all,

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but you'll have many, many great tournaments.

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I have built the greatest golf course ever built.

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I don't even have a mortgage.

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I don't even have financing on it, I did it out of my back pocket.

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I don't need financing.

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The work to build

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what Donald Trump said would be the greatest golf course on Earth

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brought him into conflict with residents on the Menie estate

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who refused to sell their homes to him.

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Some accused the Trump Organization of dirty tricks.

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My wife just gave me a phone call, I was in an office one day,

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saying they've got a digger out of the front planting trees,

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and it was this type of tree here.

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Sitka spruce.

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This is the second batch. The first ones died after a couple of years,

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they dug them out and put these ones in,

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and they backed them up with sycamore,

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which, as you can see, are also suffering in the wind.

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The salt spray just kills these things off here.

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You think eventually they will die?

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Oh, yeah. They will.

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Well, as you can see, a number of them already have -

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and, as I say, these are the second batch.

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The first ones already did die.

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-Do they bother you at all?

-They did when they first went in

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because they formed a complete wall.

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They came in at this height, they were fully grown,

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transplanted from elsewhere on the estate, and it was a complete hedge.

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It was a high hedge built on our boundary.

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Is there anything you can do about it?

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Well, there is high hedge legislation in Scotland

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that we could use that might help.

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We haven't pursued it

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because we didn't want to be the first in the region to use it -

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and, now, the first lot died, these are going the same way,

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it's probably not worth the effort.

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David Milne also complained about an earth mound

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that appeared behind his house,

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and he refused to pay towards the cost of a fence

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the Trumps put up around his property.

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There was a lot of bad feeling.

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How do you get on with your neighbours on the Menie Estate?

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You know, it's a bit of a myth

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that we don't get on with our neighbours.

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We have a great relationship with the vast majority of our neighbours.

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Let me take the example of one of your neighbours, David Milne.

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Why did you build an earth mound next to his house?

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You know, David...

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David has made a lot of statements about the property

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and us as a business, and...

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..much of it, if not all of it, is fabricated.

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-There was an earth mound, though.

-Yes, there was earth there.

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-Why did you build that?

-We own the land on the escarpment,

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and one of the reasons why we wanted to buy his property

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and another neighbouring property

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was because we were entering a period of construction.

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Now, I don't need to tell you that a 500-acre golf course,

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road infrastructure,

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laying cables and services is going to be a messy and noisy affair.

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Why did you put a fence around his house

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and then ask him to pay for half of it?

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The fact of the matter is that he had built an extension on his house

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many years ago, and it's technically on our land.

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Why did you plant trees in front of his house?

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Because we have the right to plant trees -

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and, you know, it's our land.

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Why wouldn't we plant trees?

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Is that bullying behaviour?

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I don't believe so.

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I would argue that some of the things that they have done

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have been extremely close to harassment and threatening.

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Such as?

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You know, we're going over old turf here,

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which I don't think is particularly edifying.

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The fact of the matter is we've built a leisure facility.

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We want to have a relationship with all of our neighbours.

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We have a great relationship with the vast majority of our neighbours,

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and we would have a great relationship with David and his wife

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if he wanted to.

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-You know...

-Is that still possible, do you think?

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It's entirely up to them. My door is always open.

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Those who refused to sell to Trump

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spent years resisting the development.

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A public campaign successfully fought off

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a threat of compulsory purchase.

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As a local councillor, Jim Gifford voted for the development.

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Ten years on, he leads the council.

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I think, with hindsight, they could have done a lot of stuff better,

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right from the start. We have any number of examples

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of controversial developments that have come through

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in Aberdeenshire over the years,

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where the developers have gone out of their way

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to involve the local community,

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tell them what they were doing, get them on board,

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and those things tend to sail through without too much difficulty.

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I think the Trump Organization could have learnt a lot

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from other developers in terms of how to bring development forward.

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Three...two...

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..one.

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Trump International Golf Links Scotland opened five years ago,

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and it's still contentious -

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not just with some neighbours and environmental campaigners

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but also with some of its supporters

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because of the mismatch between what was promised

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and what has actually been built.

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Talk of two golf courses, a 450-bedroom hotel,

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and hundreds of homes seems a bit like fake news...

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..because, so far, there's one golf course, a small clubhouse,

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and this 16-bedroom hotel in what was the old estate home.

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A £1 billion development it is not.

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How much money have you spent here, and what have you actually built?

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So, to date, we've spent 100 million,

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and it's 100 million pure investment,

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and, as I've said, it was Trump's private wealth.

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There's no mortgages, there's no loans,

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there's no liens on this property.

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Now, this is a multiphase development.

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We said that at the outset.

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This wasn't going to get built overnight.

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It's a long-term investment opportunity for us

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and that's how Mr Trump has always approached it.

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So, for phase one, that includes the anchor,

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the impetus for the whole site,

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which is the championship golf course,

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which is award-winning -

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and defying even our harshest of critics, it really is a masterpiece.

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How many people are employed by Trump International?

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So, including our caddies, we have 150 people engaged here

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at the estate.

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Full-time?

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A mix of full and part-time.

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We are a seasonal property, remember.

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We open in April through to the end of October,

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and then we have our winter offering -

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and, obviously, we have a variety of service providers

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that are reliant on us, and a whole supply chain.

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So, it's not the billion pounds worth of investment

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and the potential for 6,000 jobs that was promised?

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But we haven't finished.

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You know, the project is a multiphase project -

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and, you know, we're not stupid.

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The golf course, impressive as it is,

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has permanently changed the dune environment at Menie.

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So much so, the government agency Scottish National Heritage

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has told us it now has the special scientific status of this site

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under review.

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I'll be absolutely surprised if it's renotified.

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It really should be denotified,

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because there's no dynamism involved in that site now -

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and that was original justification for its notification.

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So, from a scientific point of view, this site's been ruined?

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It's been ruined from a virgin, undeveloped wilderness site

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into something that's relatively manicured.

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Was it worth tearing up this Site of Special Scientific Interest

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-for what has been delivered?

-For what is only there just now, no,

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because the economic benefit hasn't come through.

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In the big picture that was put in front of us ten years ago,

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it was worth doing.

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What duty does the Trump Organization have

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to deliver those benefits?

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I think they have an obligation to bring forward what they promised.

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That's the bottom line of it.

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The difficulty we have is we can't force them to do that.

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What's already there is not generating a profit.

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The latest accounts show Trump's Scottish businesses

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lost £19 million to the end of 2016,

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with revenues down year-on-year in Aberdeenshire.

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This place hasn't made any money yet, has it?

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No. It's... And we didn't expect it to.

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It's still in the early stages of its life,

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and year-on-year we keep spending money, you know,

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adding new services,

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adding new facilities...

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Investing in our resources, investing in our people -

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and that is set to continue for some time.

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But does that not matter?

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When you're a billionaire, you know...

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There are some projects...

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..that a quick return on is the motivating factor

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but this was not...

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..that kind of project.

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Trump wasn't coming to Balmedie in Aberdeenshire in Scotland

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to make a fast buck. Come on!

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Some people have said it's a vanity project.

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Who's some people? What does that even mean?

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Is it a vanity project?

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I think it's a glorious project,

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it's one that he's immensely proud of,

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and why wouldn't he be? He's set the bar incredibly high.

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There may be more construction on the way.

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A planning application for a second golf course is in

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and has already prompted environmental objections.

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Undeterred, Sarah Malone and her architect

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have plans for a major new phase of development on the Menie Estate.

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Right, so, here's the plan.

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Where are we on this at the moment in MacLeod House?

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We're overlooking the ponds that you can see out of the gardens -

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and then, beyond that, nestled within the trees,

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you have the housing starting,

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and then beyond that, that is called Chapter One.

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They are looking to build a village with 550 homes,

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a mixture of residential and holiday accommodation -

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but there is something they were supposed to build first

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that's missing.

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The idea of the grand hotel, is that gone now?

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Well, I think for now...

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It doesn't make a great deal of sense.

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I think you just need to look at...

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-The world's changed.

-The world's changed,

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the hotel industry in the north-east of Scotland

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has changed dramatically.

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Not only has the big hotel gone,

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but the Trump Organization wants to build residential and holiday homes

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at the same time, rather than in the phases specified

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in the original planning consent.

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Well, I think the Trump Organization,

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whoever's putting forward the proposals,

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will have a huge credibility problem

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in persuading this generation of planners and councillors

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in Aberdeenshire to believe the commitments they are now making,

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given the track record of the last ten years -

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and they face the most enormous credibility problem -

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not one, incidentally, they would have faced

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if they'd just put their hands up

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and said, "Look, the world economic environment

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"has fundamentally changed from when we made these promises

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"to the position it was maybe two or three, four years ago."

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That, I think, would have been understood.

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People could have understood that.

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In America, not everyone understands how the President, a world leader,

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can continue to own a global business.

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The White House insists Donald Trump

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no longer runs the company he created

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and is not involved in deciding what to build in Aberdeenshire.

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Not only are these plans controversial in Scotland,

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they're controversial here in Washington, too,

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because Donald Trump's critics -

0:38:110:38:13

lawyers, journalists and political opponents -

0:38:130:38:16

say that it's a conflict of interest

0:38:160:38:18

for the President of the United States

0:38:180:38:20

to have business interests all over the world.

0:38:200:38:23

Jeremy Venook is a journalist

0:38:260:38:28

who's been researching Donald Trump's overseas business interests

0:38:280:38:32

for the past year, including his Aberdeenshire golf resort.

0:38:320:38:36

Before he entered office,

0:38:360:38:38

the Trump Organization and Trump himself laid out a plan

0:38:380:38:41

by which they said they would

0:38:410:38:43

avoid creating any more conflicts of interest

0:38:430:38:45

in which they promised that the Trump Organization

0:38:450:38:48

would not be pursuing any new deals

0:38:480:38:50

and would cancel all of its pending deals in other countries.

0:38:500:38:53

Now, the expansion at Aberdeen seems to go against that pledge

0:38:530:38:57

and creates increased possibilities

0:38:570:38:59

that President Trump and his organisation

0:38:590:39:02

could come into conflict with government entities in Scotland

0:39:020:39:05

and in other countries where the Trump Organization

0:39:050:39:08

is pursuing expansion plans.

0:39:080:39:09

And some in Washington

0:39:100:39:12

are also looking into Trump's other Scottish investment.

0:39:120:39:16

Trump's golf course at Turnberry has also featured

0:39:160:39:19

in worries about his conflict of interest

0:39:190:39:21

because of a £110,000 tax break that he received

0:39:210:39:25

from the South Ayrshire Council.

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That demonstrates one of the other issues

0:39:270:39:29

with President Trump's decision

0:39:290:39:31

to hold on to his businesses while he is President,

0:39:310:39:33

which is that they offer all sorts of opportunities

0:39:330:39:36

for people who may want to curry favour with the President

0:39:360:39:39

by using his finances to get to him.

0:39:390:39:41

This being America, a legal challenge is already underway.

0:39:440:39:49

The ethical standards campaign CREW

0:39:490:39:51

argues that the President's international investments

0:39:510:39:54

are unconstitutional.

0:39:540:39:56

There are actually two clauses

0:39:560:39:58

of the United States Constitution called the emoluments clauses.

0:39:580:40:02

One of them, the foreign emoluments clause,

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says essentially that the President or any other government official

0:40:050:40:10

cannot be getting payments or things of value

0:40:100:40:14

from foreign governments.

0:40:140:40:16

President Trump would say he's handed control of the business

0:40:160:40:20

over to his sons.

0:40:200:40:21

Why don't you accept that?

0:40:210:40:23

Who is managing the business on a day-to-day basis

0:40:230:40:26

isn't really what matters.

0:40:260:40:27

What matters is who benefits from the business,

0:40:270:40:30

who owns the business -

0:40:300:40:31

and that continues to be Donald Trump.

0:40:310:40:33

He didn't sell the companies, he didn't give the companies away.

0:40:330:40:38

He continues to profit from them.

0:40:380:40:40

The President has taken steps to avoid conflicts of interest.

0:40:400:40:44

These papers are just some of the many documents that I've signed

0:40:440:40:48

turning over complete and total control to my sons.

0:40:480:40:52

I hope at the end of eight years

0:40:520:40:53

I'll come back and I'll say "Oh, you did a good job."

0:40:530:40:56

Otherwise, if they do a bad job, I'll say, "You're fired!"

0:40:560:40:59

Goodbye, everybody.

0:40:590:41:01

Supporters of the President

0:41:010:41:03

insist attacks on these arrangements are not justified.

0:41:030:41:07

This is a man who has handed over the control of all his businesses

0:41:070:41:11

very publicly in a press conference

0:41:110:41:13

before he came into the White House.

0:41:130:41:14

So, he's not involved in the running of his businesses.

0:41:140:41:18

They may bear his name, but you can't take his name off his legacy.

0:41:180:41:23

He's built it for 50 years.

0:41:230:41:25

Even if they change the name of his hotels or his golf courses,

0:41:250:41:28

everybody knows who built them.

0:41:280:41:29

The takeover of Turnberry

0:41:320:41:33

strengthened the Trump family's ties with Scotland.

0:41:330:41:38

In all the jobs we've done around the world,

0:41:380:41:40

never have we met such unbelievable partners

0:41:400:41:43

who have welcomed us with open arms. Everything that we wanted to do,

0:41:430:41:47

every capital investment we wanted to make, they were 100% behind us.

0:41:470:41:52

As the Trumps redeveloped Turnberry,

0:41:520:41:54

they worked closely with South Ayrshire Council

0:41:540:41:57

and other local partners.

0:41:570:41:59

They wanted not to improve just infrastructure

0:41:590:42:02

and quality of the buildings

0:42:020:42:04

but also to engage very closely with the local community.

0:42:040:42:08

Therefore, a lot of local contractors were used

0:42:080:42:11

as part of that refurbishment.

0:42:110:42:12

What economic impact has it had locally?

0:42:120:42:15

I think really the employment has the biggest impact.

0:42:160:42:19

It's down in a fairly rural area.

0:42:190:42:21

There are not many big employers in Girvan, Maybole, etc -

0:42:210:42:25

and to have the opportunity to employ, I think, currently,

0:42:250:42:30

they've got 454 staff, 85% of which are Scottish and local,

0:42:300:42:35

which is really key, I think,

0:42:350:42:37

for young people in that particular area.

0:42:370:42:39

When he opened the newly-refurbished resort,

0:42:420:42:44

the then presidential candidate once again stressed the importance

0:42:440:42:48

of his Scottish roots.

0:42:480:42:49

My mother was born in Scotland, in Stornoway.

0:42:510:42:54

She would come to Turnberry with her friends -

0:42:540:42:57

and they'd have dinner at Turnberry.

0:42:570:42:59

She didn't play golf but they'd have dinner at Turnberry.

0:42:590:43:02

So, having taken this hotel and done the job we've done with it

0:43:020:43:07

is just an honour -

0:43:070:43:08

and to think that we'd be here owning Turnberry one day

0:43:080:43:12

would be incredible.

0:43:120:43:14

It was the day after the Brexit vote

0:43:140:43:17

and he also welcomed the UK's decision

0:43:170:43:19

to leave the European Union.

0:43:190:43:21

People want to see borders.

0:43:210:43:23

They don't necessarily want people pouring into their country

0:43:230:43:27

that they don't know who they are and where they come from,

0:43:270:43:29

they have no idea. And I think, you know,

0:43:290:43:32

not only did it win, but it won by a much bigger margin

0:43:320:43:34

than people thought it would happen.

0:43:340:43:36

With Donald Trump, the personal, political and commercial

0:43:430:43:48

are intertwined.

0:43:480:43:50

Welcome to the Donald Trump Ballroom, our masterpiece.

0:43:500:43:55

It's not yet clear what his election will mean

0:43:550:43:58

for Scotland and the wider UK.

0:43:580:44:01

He's long been the subject of much criticism here.

0:44:010:44:05

What would you do if Donald Trump gets into power?

0:44:050:44:07

Will you deal with him or dinghy him?

0:44:070:44:08

Deal with him or dinghy him? Deal with him or dinghy him?

0:44:080:44:11

I think America will dinghy him before I do.

0:44:110:44:13

-I'd like to dinghy him before he got into power.

-Would you?

0:44:130:44:16

Yeah. Actually, I don't believe he will ever be

0:44:160:44:18

President of the United States.

0:44:180:44:19

I have too much faith in the wisdom of crowds.

0:44:190:44:21

I don't think the Americans will ever elect him President.

0:44:210:44:24

But would you have to deal with him, though?

0:44:240:44:26

What do you think of his hair? Do you like his hair?

0:44:260:44:28

I think it reminds me of Dougie Donnelly.

0:44:280:44:30

The First Minister went further in a TV debate.

0:44:310:44:35

Donald Trump calls you.

0:44:360:44:39

What's your opening gambit?

0:44:390:44:41

I actually do think the good people of America

0:44:410:44:43

will send Donald Trump packing

0:44:430:44:44

and we should all rejoice when that happens.

0:44:440:44:47

And what would you say? What would your message be?

0:44:480:44:50

"I'm on the other line, sorry."

0:44:500:44:53

In fact, Nicola Sturgeon did take the new President's call

0:44:530:44:57

and congratulated him.

0:44:570:44:59

Earlier this year, she visited the USA during Scotland Week...

0:44:590:45:03

..but there was no meeting with President Trump.

0:45:030:45:05

Obviously, you've been a critic

0:45:070:45:09

of the current President of the United States,

0:45:090:45:12

with accusations levelled at him of misogyny and of racism,

0:45:120:45:16

you've stripped him of his role as an ambassador for Scottish business.

0:45:160:45:19

Have you had to bite your tongue this week?

0:45:190:45:21

No, I haven't had to bite my tongue.

0:45:210:45:23

I respect the fact that,

0:45:230:45:24

notwithstanding political disagreements I will have

0:45:240:45:27

with President Trump,

0:45:270:45:28

that he is the elected President of the United States.

0:45:280:45:31

I also am absolutely determined

0:45:310:45:32

that whoever is the President of the United States,

0:45:320:45:35

whoever is First Minister of Scotland

0:45:350:45:37

from time to time that we concentrate on building

0:45:370:45:40

and strengthening and deepening the many links

0:45:400:45:42

between Scotland and the United States,

0:45:420:45:44

and that is what the visit has been entirely focused on.

0:45:440:45:47

But what do the President's supporters make

0:45:480:45:50

of the way Scotland's politicians behaved?

0:45:500:45:53

It's not what you do.

0:45:540:45:55

It's the same way that - why did President Obama

0:45:550:45:59

try to force the hand of the British people voting

0:45:590:46:04

with regards to exiting the EU?

0:46:040:46:05

To threaten that they would be at the end of the queue

0:46:050:46:08

when it came to trade relations?

0:46:080:46:11

Americans shouldn't do that,

0:46:110:46:12

other politicians shouldn't do that with us.

0:46:120:46:15

Are there consequences for taking a stand

0:46:150:46:17

against the highest political office on the planet?

0:46:170:46:21

You'd have to ask the President, but he has a very, very long memory.

0:46:210:46:24

-Meaning?

-He doesn't forget stuff.

0:46:260:46:28

Another Trump supporter, Jeffrey Lord,

0:46:290:46:31

worked in the Reagan White House.

0:46:310:46:33

When you work in the White House, the President's photographer,

0:46:330:46:36

every President's photographer,

0:46:360:46:38

their job is to record history all day long -

0:46:380:46:41

and then if you're on the White House staff

0:46:410:46:43

and you see one that you like,

0:46:430:46:45

you lift it off,

0:46:450:46:47

and you sign your name on the back.

0:46:470:46:48

There we are, Jeff Lord, political affairs.

0:46:480:46:50

Exactly. It's up to the President's photographer who gets it,

0:46:500:46:54

and I was fortunate enough to get this one.

0:46:540:46:57

Now a writer and commentator, he specialises in political relations.

0:46:570:47:02

Do you think our politicians in Scotland made a mistake

0:47:020:47:06

criticising Donald Trump?

0:47:060:47:08

I always think that kind of thing in general is a mistake.

0:47:080:47:11

That said, I understand the politics of it,

0:47:110:47:13

that they are playing to their own version of their base

0:47:130:47:17

and attacking Donald Trump, in this case, is popular in some circles.

0:47:170:47:22

So they do it - but I think it's not a helpful thing.

0:47:220:47:26

Will that backfire in some way?

0:47:260:47:28

It could. It could.

0:47:280:47:30

Again, America being...

0:47:320:47:34

American history being what it is and having separated itself

0:47:340:47:39

from the UK in the American Revolution,

0:47:390:47:42

there's always that strain in America,

0:47:420:47:44

that's just sort of under the surface, that we're Americans,

0:47:440:47:47

we're not the old world, and we're going to do things our own way.

0:47:470:47:53

In the land of the free,

0:47:580:48:00

there's a great tradition of poking fun at the rich and powerful.

0:48:000:48:05

Capitol Steps have been performing political satire in Washington DC

0:48:050:48:08

for decades.

0:48:080:48:10

# He's got something that's right when we turn out the lights

0:48:120:48:17

# That's when Donald shows me his charms

0:48:170:48:20

# And then my heart sings at those small things...

0:48:210:48:25

# At the end of his arms

0:48:260:48:30

# I want a man with a small hand

0:48:300:48:34

# Don't want somebody else to be my spouse

0:48:340:48:39

# Don't like those guys who's always showing some hands

0:48:390:48:42

# Like those big hands you see on Mickey Mouse... #

0:48:420:48:46

The cast includes some who've worked on Capitol Hill

0:48:460:48:50

in the business of government.

0:48:500:48:52

# A man who wasn't dealt a full hand. #

0:48:520:48:56

Now, as Donald Trump's not agreed to be interviewed for this film,

0:49:010:49:05

in the spirit of the show, I decided to improvise.

0:49:050:49:08

We're making a film about President Trump.

0:49:090:49:13

What about the state visit, are you going to make that to the UK?

0:49:130:49:17

Make it to the UK?

0:49:170:49:19

I don't know. You know, talk to my people, OK?

0:49:200:49:22

I don't know, it's just hard to say.

0:49:220:49:24

I mean, I'm going to make it great. If I make it there,

0:49:240:49:27

it'll be great, it'll be fantastic, it'll be the best visit ever.

0:49:270:49:29

Ever. Biggest visit you could imagine.

0:49:290:49:31

What if there are protests, though? Some people don't like you.

0:49:310:49:35

That's impossible, that's fake news.

0:49:350:49:36

No-one ever said that. Everyone loves me.

0:49:360:49:38

They love me, you understand?

0:49:380:49:39

Look at the crowd here. There's a million people here right now.

0:49:390:49:42

There's nobody here.

0:49:420:49:43

-Please be seated.

-There's absolutely nobody here.

0:49:430:49:46

Be seated, quiet down, you're fake news, get out of here.

0:49:460:49:49

Get him out of here.

0:49:490:49:51

The real Donald Trump is a hugely controversial President.

0:49:510:49:55

There are regularly protests like this outside his family businesses.

0:49:550:49:59

Donald Trump may have divided opinion in Scotland

0:50:010:50:04

for and against his golf development in Aberdeenshire,

0:50:040:50:08

but that's nothing compared to this,

0:50:080:50:10

the way in which his policies as President

0:50:100:50:13

have divided opinion in the United States.

0:50:130:50:16

Yes, he promised to build a wall with Mexico

0:50:160:50:19

and to restrict immigration

0:50:190:50:21

from a range of mainly Muslim countries.

0:50:210:50:24

That helped to get him elected -

0:50:240:50:25

but there are no shortage of people prepared to stand up

0:50:250:50:29

and fight him on those policies.

0:50:290:50:31

President Trump is likely to receive a similar reception in the UK.

0:50:350:50:40

That may be why there is not yet a date for the state visit

0:50:400:50:43

he was offered and accepted within days of taking office.

0:50:430:50:48

The problem for UK and Scottish politicians to resolve

0:50:480:50:51

is how best to handle such an unpredictable President.

0:50:510:50:55

Well, I think in these international relationships...

0:50:570:51:00

..it is perfectly possible to take a very strong stance

0:51:010:51:05

and have a strong opinion on what somebody is saying or doing

0:51:050:51:09

and still be able to have a dialogue with them.

0:51:090:51:13

I met President Putin twice when I was First Minister.

0:51:130:51:16

I didn't... No, we didn't agree on most of the topics

0:51:170:51:20

that we discussed,

0:51:200:51:21

but we had a great, very good relationship, you know?

0:51:210:51:24

And good quality discussion.

0:51:250:51:28

You should try and tell the truth to power.

0:51:280:51:30

I mean, I obviously respect the fact that Nicola Sturgeon, for example,

0:51:300:51:35

is in office and you cannot, for example - some people suggested,

0:51:350:51:38

say you will refuse to be the President of the United States.

0:51:380:51:41

You can't do that. You've got to respect office,

0:51:410:51:43

regardless of what you think of individuals.

0:51:430:51:45

The election of Donald Trump may have put a bit of a dampener

0:51:510:51:55

on the political relationship between Scotland and America,

0:51:550:51:59

but in a country that so many Scottish migrants helped to shape,

0:51:590:52:04

there are more enduring bonds - shared history, family, culture.

0:52:040:52:09

BAGPIPES PLAY

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In rural Virginia, in Scottish weather, a taste of the old country.

0:52:160:52:22

That's really good.

0:52:230:52:25

American Scots from all over the States come to games like this

0:52:320:52:36

to celebrate their heritage and eat haggis.

0:52:360:52:40

-There you go.

-Lovely, thanks very much.

0:52:400:52:41

-You're welcome.

-Is this a popular dish on your menu?

0:52:410:52:45

One of the first things we run out of.

0:52:450:52:47

-Really?

-Yeah.

-So can I try it with some whisky sauce, then?

0:52:470:52:49

Absolutely.

0:52:490:52:50

-I'm not quite so sure with the whisky sauce.

-Oh.

0:52:520:52:55

Having a half-Scottish President

0:52:550:52:57

should be good for strengthening links

0:52:570:52:59

between Scotland and America.

0:52:590:53:02

If it was anyone other than Donald Trump,

0:53:020:53:05

we'd be claiming him as one of our own.

0:53:050:53:07

Is it just possible we're missing a trick?

0:53:070:53:11

Did you know that your President, President Trump, is half-Scottish?

0:53:110:53:14

I was aware of that. I try and deny that as much as I can.

0:53:150:53:19

-Oh, do you?

-I'm not a big fan of him.

0:53:190:53:21

Did you know that your President is half-Scottish?

0:53:210:53:24

-I did not.

-His mum was from the Isle of Lewis.

0:53:240:53:27

-I got to tell you, I'm on a Trump-free weekend.

-Oh!

0:53:270:53:30

So, if you're a MacLeod, might you be related to President Trump?

0:53:320:53:36

Eurgh, hopefully not!

0:53:360:53:38

You know his mum was a MacLeod from the Isle of Lewis?

0:53:380:53:40

Really? As I said, a distant cousin.

0:53:400:53:43

There is an invitation for President Trump to come to the UK

0:53:430:53:47

on a state visit, which is quite controversial.

0:53:470:53:50

-What do you think we should do?

-Oh, I think he should go.

0:53:500:53:53

I think he should go.

0:53:530:53:54

Any opportunity to strengthen bonds should be welcomed.

0:53:540:53:59

His mum was from the Isle of Lewis.

0:53:590:54:01

-OK.

-Who knew?

-She was a MacLeod from the Isle of Lewis.

0:54:010:54:03

Oh. I didn't know that.

0:54:030:54:06

-Good to know.

-I would say, if more people knew

0:54:060:54:09

and he was able to portray that positively...

0:54:090:54:13

-..that that would be...

-You are so politically correct!

0:54:130:54:18

Thank you!

0:54:190:54:21

Did you know that President Trump is half-Scottish?

0:54:210:54:23

Are you serious?!

0:54:250:54:26

Yeah, his mum was born and raised on the Isle of Lewis.

0:54:260:54:30

I love Donald Trump, so that just makes everything so much better.

0:54:300:54:35

Maybe he should make more of it.

0:54:350:54:36

Oh, you're saying that President Trump

0:54:360:54:38

should kind of admit that he is a little bit Scottish

0:54:380:54:41

and start to connect to his heritage?

0:54:410:54:43

I don't know, do you think that's a good idea?

0:54:430:54:45

I think so, yeah, even if the Scots deny it, which I assume they will.

0:54:450:54:49

I think...

0:54:490:54:51

Well, he's not universally popular in Scotland, that's true.

0:54:510:54:53

Mm-hm. I hear he's more German than anything else, so...

0:54:530:54:58

So, do you get on well with the Saint Andrew's Society?

0:54:580:55:00

Do you do stuff together as well?

0:55:000:55:02

-No, we don't, but...

-Oh, I see, this is local.

0:55:020:55:04

-Right.

-This is this county.

0:55:040:55:05

Now, I have difficulty pronouncing...

0:55:050:55:09

-Faw-kee-err.

-I beg your pardon?

0:55:090:55:11

OK, we're just going!

0:55:110:55:12

He's got that caber up, let's give them some encouragement.

0:55:150:55:17

Come on, Brady. Show 'em how it's done.

0:55:170:55:21

There we go. That's what we came to see.

0:55:250:55:28

As I come around...

0:55:300:55:31

In Scotland, we love a good argument.

0:55:310:55:34

For centuries, we've been famous for fighting.

0:55:340:55:37

Don't point that at my face.

0:55:370:55:39

I'm going to point it.

0:55:390:55:40

It's my job. I kind of have to.

0:55:410:55:43

-OK.

-I'm going to let you attack me.

0:55:430:55:44

-OK.

-I'm a professional.

0:55:440:55:46

Is this going to end up hurting me?

0:55:460:55:48

I hope so, but it should be OK.

0:55:480:55:50

Is taking a stand a barrier to a beautiful friendship?

0:55:500:55:54

Does anyone have any choice but to hold Donald Trump at arm's length?

0:55:550:55:59

He sullies everything that he comes in contact with.

0:55:590:56:04

You cannot do business with this person and come out whole.

0:56:040:56:07

I think it's probably safe to say that there are Scots

0:56:130:56:15

who just can't stand Donald Trump, as there are Americans

0:56:150:56:18

who can't stand Donald Trump, but I think it would behoove them to...

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You know, the American people made their decision

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and welcome him with open arms

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and have candid talks and move on.

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The Donald Trump you saw in Scotland

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demonstrated to Scots, before the world understood,

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that he is not a man to be trusted.

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That this is a person who will do and say almost anything

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to gain for himself -

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and it's why the world no longer looks to the United States

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for the leadership it once provided.

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Do you want to thrive? Do you want to prosper?

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Do you want to be friends with the most powerful man in the world

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who runs the most powerful country in the world?

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It's a rhetorical question, right?

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Love him or loathe him,

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Donald Trump is arguably the most Scottish President in US history.

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Remember, Trump's a nice guy.

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What would be nice is to be able to predict what will happen next.

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Unfortunately, that's not possible.

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Looking back, Donald Trump's

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dealings in Scotland have left a very mixed legacy.

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-Where are we now, David?

-Well, this is our rooftop -

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our lookout, if you like. This is where we get the best view from,

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where we can see what's going on in the area.

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And you're also flying a couple of flags,

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the Saltire of Scotland and...

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And the Mexican flag.

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-Why?

-Well, the Mexican flag is just in solidarity

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with the Mexican people.

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Basically because Trump has threatened to build a wall

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and make them pay for it. He's already tried that here.

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He built a fence and sent us a bill for it.

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He likes to win.

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He's a great deal-maker

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and he sees the potential in places and people

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and has the ability to create extraordinary things.

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Do you think Trump might sell?

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No.

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-Absolutely not.

-Why are you so sure?

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Because he loves this place.

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