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Scotland's streets are full of tributes to those who have helped | :00:10. | :00:20. | |
shape the country and wider Europe. Thinkers, poets, warriors. But no | :00:21. | :00:25. | |
Scotland is torn between two identities, it's pretty self and its | :00:26. | :00:29. | |
European one. Scotland can now no longer belong to both. This dilemma | :00:30. | :00:34. | |
is brewing in true and acute constitutional crisis. What effect | :00:35. | :00:43. | |
will leaving the EU have on those whose livelihoods have been shaped | :00:44. | :00:48. | |
by European membership for decades? What we need to know and no fast is | :00:49. | :00:53. | |
where our future is going to come from. | :00:54. | :00:56. | |
And how will Scotland cope as Britain leaves the single market? | :00:57. | :01:01. | |
80% of all the food we sell out of Scotland goes to Europe. Europe is | :01:02. | :01:08. | |
the ball game for our export right now. | :01:09. | :01:11. | |
Scotland did not choose this. It rejected a Brexit but Brexit is | :01:12. | :01:15. | |
being thrust upon it. What would that do for the 300-year-old union | :01:16. | :01:20. | |
between Scotland and England? We are being taken out of the EU | :01:21. | :01:24. | |
against our will. That is a democratic outrage. It is | :01:25. | :01:29. | |
not about whether there could be another independence referendum. Of | :01:30. | :01:31. | |
course there could. The question is should there be? | :01:32. | :01:37. | |
This week, the Prime Minister will trigger article 50 and pose special | :01:38. | :01:43. | |
questions for those in Scotland and Northern Ireland that did not vote | :01:44. | :01:48. | |
to come out of Europe. Nine months ago, just before the | :01:49. | :01:52. | |
referendum on European Union membership, I made this observation. | :01:53. | :01:56. | |
It seemed hypothetical at the time. With a vote to leave the European | :01:57. | :02:01. | |
Union propel Scotland for the to independence? It certainly changes | :02:02. | :02:04. | |
the independence proposition in ways we haven't begun to consider. It | :02:05. | :02:09. | |
would confront Scotland but the new national question. Which union do | :02:10. | :02:12. | |
you want to be part of, the British one of the European one? That is an | :02:13. | :02:19. | |
argument we haven't started to have. It is not hypothetical now, it is | :02:20. | :02:23. | |
real and urgent. The UK appears to have voted out, | :02:24. | :02:29. | |
Scotland has voted in. With 40 to protect our place in the | :02:30. | :02:32. | |
world's biggest single market and the jobs and that depend on it. | :02:33. | :02:40. | |
What I am proposing cannot mean membership of the single market. | :02:41. | :02:47. | |
We voted to safeguard freedom to travel, live, work and study in | :02:48. | :02:51. | |
other European countries. Brexit must mean control the number | :02:52. | :02:54. | |
of people who come to Britain from Europe and that is what we will | :02:55. | :02:57. | |
deliver. I want to take the opportunity this | :02:58. | :03:03. | |
morning to speak directly to citizens of other European countries | :03:04. | :03:06. | |
living here in Scotland. You remain welcome here, Scotland is your home | :03:07. | :03:15. | |
and your contribution is valued. Last summer's EU Referendum Bill in | :03:16. | :03:20. | |
the UK looking like two different countries articulate into mutually | :03:21. | :03:24. | |
hostile visions of the future. A second independence referendum, if | :03:25. | :03:29. | |
and when it comes, will be fought on different terrain. How does Brexit | :03:30. | :03:34. | |
change the independence prospectus? It makes it in some ways more likely | :03:35. | :03:38. | |
that Scotland will become independent but also more difficult. | :03:39. | :03:44. | |
It does. This time round, Nicola Sturgeon is linking Scottish | :03:45. | :03:49. | |
independence with EU membership. They are inextricable. That wasn't | :03:50. | :03:53. | |
the case first time round. He also had the problem in the SNP that a | :03:54. | :04:00. | |
good third of their members support getting away from Brussels so how do | :04:01. | :04:05. | |
she square that? Opinion polls suggest that some who | :04:06. | :04:12. | |
voted no to independence in 2014 have moved into the yes camp because | :04:13. | :04:20. | |
of Brexit. But what about those who want out of both unions? This is | :04:21. | :04:28. | |
Lossiemouth. Moray prize by selling whisky across the world and bringing | :04:29. | :04:34. | |
in tourists. In the EU referendum, they smack in close than any other | :04:35. | :04:39. | |
part of Scotland to Vote Leave. Why was it the closest? | :04:40. | :04:44. | |
I think the age demographic comes into it and the military factor. We | :04:45. | :04:55. | |
are very much an RAF, Navy and Army area and a lot of the people that | :04:56. | :04:59. | |
have settled here are very pro-the union. The SNP has made the | :05:00. | :05:01. | |
assumption that anybody who votes union. The SNP has made the | :05:02. | :05:06. | |
for independence will want to remain in Europe but that is just not true. | :05:07. | :05:09. | |
for independence will want to remain Most of them actually want to get | :05:10. | :05:13. | |
out of Europe. It is something I learned when I was an SNP candidate. | :05:14. | :05:18. | |
I hadn't appreciated it until four years ago. | :05:19. | :05:21. | |
Why do so many people here want to leave the British and European | :05:22. | :05:28. | |
Union? The SNP supporters in this area are | :05:29. | :05:32. | |
really staunch once. They are passionate. The bottom line is that | :05:33. | :05:40. | |
they really want independence. They are fiercely independent. | :05:41. | :05:48. | |
A few miles to the east, the river Spey empties into the sea. The river | :05:49. | :06:01. | |
feeds two of the country's biggest industries, whisky and tourism. The | :06:02. | :06:09. | |
mainstream currents of Scottish public opinion contained many | :06:10. | :06:15. | |
unexpected eddies. Moray is happy to send MPs from the SNP to Westminster | :06:16. | :06:21. | |
and Holyrood but in 2014 and voted no to independence. A substantial | :06:22. | :06:26. | |
minority who voted yes to independence went on to vote to | :06:27. | :06:31. | |
leave the European Union. A second independence referendum offering | :06:32. | :06:35. | |
independence in Europe at present back group, those who wanted | :06:36. | :06:38. | |
independence for Scotland but to leave the EU, with a new dilemma and | :06:39. | :06:43. | |
a new choice. Which union day want to leave more, the British one of | :06:44. | :06:52. | |
the European one? Whether you are for EU membership or | :06:53. | :06:55. | |
against it, something that unites many people is that these decisions | :06:56. | :06:59. | |
should not be imposed on us, they should be taken for ourselves. In | :07:00. | :07:08. | |
2014, the No campaign said to vote no to stay in the EU. Then we were | :07:09. | :07:16. | |
told to vote remained to stay in the EU. Scotland and both of those | :07:17. | :07:20. | |
things and are still faced with getting taken out of the EU against | :07:21. | :07:26. | |
our will. That is a democratic outrage and it resonates with many | :07:27. | :07:34. | |
people. How does that appeal to democratic | :07:35. | :07:38. | |
outrage measure up against economic anxiety? Moray is not a wealthy | :07:39. | :07:46. | |
area, margins are taken, many incomes low. Brexit raises questions | :07:47. | :07:51. | |
for all of us about the viability of the companies we work for and the | :07:52. | :07:58. | |
jobs that sustain us. Scotland's First Minister will have to appeal | :07:59. | :08:03. | |
to the public for whom there is already too much uncertainty. | :08:04. | :08:07. | |
Europeans make up sometimes up to 90% of our business in June, July | :08:08. | :08:16. | |
and August. It is important they are made to feel welcome. 40% is quite | :08:17. | :08:26. | |
normal but I know that hotels in London where it is 100% of staff. | :08:27. | :08:31. | |
That is going to give us real issues. It is not as if this is a | :08:32. | :08:40. | |
new problem for our industry because we have had immigrants, either from | :08:41. | :08:43. | |
the Commonwealth or from Europe, for as long as I know. But what we need | :08:44. | :08:49. | |
to know and needs to know fast is where our future workforce is going | :08:50. | :08:54. | |
to come from. In Britain there is 1 million people | :08:55. | :08:59. | |
roughly employed in hospitality industry. If you could get 800,000 | :09:00. | :09:09. | |
people to move to our industry, we are immediately 200,000 people | :09:10. | :09:10. | |
short. Trade changes. This is the railway | :09:11. | :09:30. | |
station from which whisky was sent around the world. The distillery | :09:31. | :09:38. | |
remains and the industry is one of Scotland's great success stories and | :09:39. | :09:41. | |
Brexit is unlikely to change that. The rest of the food and drink | :09:42. | :09:45. | |
industry in Scotland cannot be that confident. This industry is no | :09:46. | :09:50. | |
bigger in Scotland's economy than oil and gas. This factory makes | :09:51. | :09:55. | |
shortbread and other distinctively Scottish products. More comes of | :09:56. | :09:59. | |
this production line in a day than many of us could eat in our | :10:00. | :10:03. | |
lifetimes. It generates this level of business because it is free to | :10:04. | :10:08. | |
sell across Europe. Will those markets still be open after Brexit? | :10:09. | :10:13. | |
No one knows. 80% of all the food we sell out of | :10:14. | :10:17. | |
Scotland into international markets goes to Europe. Europe is the ball | :10:18. | :10:24. | |
game for our export story right now so one quarter goes to France alone, | :10:25. | :10:29. | |
so ongoing access to that market is going to be critical. | :10:30. | :10:33. | |
How much of a threat does Brexit represent? Presumably after Brexit | :10:34. | :10:38. | |
those who buy the products will continue to buy them. | :10:39. | :10:41. | |
I don't think demand will be a problem. Scotland has an increasing | :10:42. | :10:46. | |
reputation as a land of food and drink, producing quality products. | :10:47. | :10:50. | |
But there are huge unknowns about what Brexit means. If we have huge | :10:51. | :11:00. | |
export taxes on our products, we could become uncompetitive very | :11:01. | :11:02. | |
quickly. The Scottish Government asked the UK | :11:03. | :11:06. | |
Government if Scotland could negotiate a separate deal to stay in | :11:07. | :11:11. | |
the single market. The leader of the Scottish Conservatives says that is | :11:12. | :11:14. | |
not possible. It is not about what I think it is | :11:15. | :11:18. | |
about what is the 27 other nations think and they have said no. The | :11:19. | :11:25. | |
Foreign Minister from Spain said no. Other European leaders said that is | :11:26. | :11:31. | |
not on the cards. We negotiate with the UK as a whole, we don't go see | :11:32. | :11:36. | |
with different bits of the member state. | :11:37. | :11:39. | |
We don't suggest that that will be straight forward without legal, | :11:40. | :11:43. | |
technical and political complexities but we set out world's complexities | :11:44. | :11:47. | |
will be on the basis by which they could be overcome. But then that we | :11:48. | :11:59. | |
would -- within that we would reluctantly see Scotland leave the | :12:00. | :12:04. | |
EU but have measures that support our economy. | :12:05. | :12:12. | |
Scotland, Britain as a whole, has not lose bids are dependent on | :12:13. | :12:16. | |
European markets. We chose a European destiny in the early 1970s. | :12:17. | :12:21. | |
Before that, for generations, we had for the most part bought and sold to | :12:22. | :12:28. | |
the British Empire. The Empire that sheared enterprise between England | :12:29. | :12:32. | |
and Scotland, bound securely into the United Kingdom. | :12:33. | :12:37. | |
Scotland was an enthusiastic partner in imperial Britain and it faced and | :12:38. | :12:47. | |
frantically West. This stretch of water, the River Clyde, became | :12:48. | :12:51. | |
Scotland's trading superhighway to the prosperity of the planet. | :12:52. | :12:54. | |
Glasgow became the second city of the Empire, built on trade and then | :12:55. | :13:01. | |
industry. Then in 1973 that all changed. Britain turned to face | :13:02. | :13:06. | |
east. Placing its back to the old Empire. This place started going | :13:07. | :13:10. | |
into steep decline. No more heavy industry, eventually no more | :13:11. | :13:17. | |
shipbuilding. No more ships from South Africa and Molly are coming up | :13:18. | :13:21. | |
the Clyde lead in the projects. The anger and poverty and despair that | :13:22. | :13:26. | |
brought with it placed enormous strain on Scotland's union with | :13:27. | :13:31. | |
England. It was the social context within which support for Scottish | :13:32. | :13:33. | |
independence grew to its present level. Are we going to go through | :13:34. | :13:38. | |
dramatic change of that sort again as result of leaving the European | :13:39. | :13:42. | |
Union and what will it do to the union with England? | :13:43. | :13:47. | |
The position of the union was that it was probably at its strongest for | :13:48. | :13:51. | |
obvious reasons immediately after World War II but also because in the | :13:52. | :13:57. | |
50s, apart from Labour, there were also Conservative governments who | :13:58. | :14:02. | |
were sensitive and aware of ensuring that there was no sense of | :14:03. | :14:07. | |
Westminster imperialism. That came to an end and there were a series of | :14:08. | :14:14. | |
impositions on critically insensitive impositions when the | :14:15. | :14:20. | |
nation was going through a crisis through re-industrialisation and we | :14:21. | :14:25. | |
know what happened there. Some people say that we not a | :14:26. | :14:30. | |
Scottish party but neither are we an English party, naughty Welsh party, | :14:31. | :14:36. | |
nor an Irish party. We are the party of the whole the United Kingdom. | :14:37. | :14:43. | |
Since then, the union has been semi-stabilised in the period since | :14:44. | :14:47. | |
the 80s. Westminster, at least in relation to | :14:48. | :14:52. | |
the offers of flexibility, in relation to what Edinburgh seems to | :14:53. | :14:55. | |
want as far as negotiations are concerned, has been implacably | :14:56. | :15:00. | |
opposed. In fact, the attitudes remained me very much of the | :15:01. | :15:06. | |
inflexibility Sean, not by the Scottish office, but by Westminster | :15:07. | :15:10. | |
politicians during the Thatcher either of the 1980s. | :15:11. | :15:16. | |
What happens at that and flexibility does no break the union? In Scotland | :15:17. | :15:23. | |
stayed in the EU for the rest of the UK left, this border would become | :15:24. | :15:28. | |
not just the edge of Scotland, but of a single trading bloc stretching | :15:29. | :15:33. | |
to the Black Sea. This was not the proposition in 2014. This is | :15:34. | :15:37. | |
something quite new, the possibility that a hard customs border might be | :15:38. | :15:44. | |
drawn across the island of Britain. For Scotland, that's still a | :15:45. | :15:48. | |
hypothetical question. But for Ireland, that's very real. | :15:49. | :15:56. | |
This road bridge crosses the border between the United Kingdom and the | :15:57. | :16:00. | |
Republic of Ireland. It's one of more than 200 places where you can | :16:01. | :16:04. | |
make the crossing, and it really is an invisible border. You could drive | :16:05. | :16:08. | |
across here without noticing you'd left one country and entered | :16:09. | :16:13. | |
another. After Britain leads the European Union, it was be legal of | :16:14. | :16:17. | |
citizens of 46 other European countries to come here to the | :16:18. | :16:21. | |
Republic of Ireland and get a job and claim benefits and use the | :16:22. | :16:26. | |
services. But a few yards in that direction, there would be no | :16:27. | :16:32. | |
automatic right to do any of that. That change is what Northern | :16:33. | :16:36. | |
Ireland's biggest party, the Democratic Unionist Party campaigned | :16:37. | :16:39. | |
for. Why did they DUP back Brexit? | :16:40. | :16:45. | |
There's number of reasons. The European Union is very good at | :16:46. | :16:50. | |
creating regulations, it created hundreds on agriculture alone. | :16:51. | :16:53. | |
Ultimately, we believe that power is better invested at the local level | :16:54. | :16:57. | |
will stop so we want more power to the local authorities, to regional | :16:58. | :17:02. | |
assemblies, and ultimately to Westminster. Not to be pestered into | :17:03. | :17:06. | |
Europe whether it's little accountability. | :17:07. | :17:08. | |
Do you except that Britain's decision to leave the EU hope poses | :17:09. | :17:13. | |
huge problems for the border between Northern Ireland and Ireland? | :17:14. | :17:19. | |
Oh, yes comic huge problems. Do we have a hard or soft border? Both | :17:20. | :17:24. | |
Britain and Ireland have indicated they would prefer to have a | :17:25. | :17:28. | |
free-flowing border. The truth is we had something like 16,000 troops | :17:29. | :17:33. | |
here and many police officers and several roads close, and didn't stop | :17:34. | :17:38. | |
things getting across the border. So I can't see that they will be able | :17:39. | :17:44. | |
to enforce a hard border with two or-3000 customs officers. | :17:45. | :17:52. | |
The nationalist SDLP are fiercely pro-European. Likely Scottish | :17:53. | :17:59. | |
governments, they want the UK to the gutted a special status for Northern | :18:00. | :18:02. | |
Ireland that would keep it inside the single market. And keep the | :18:03. | :18:06. | |
border open. -- negotiate a special status for Northern Ireland. | :18:07. | :18:11. | |
Three years, we have spent time getting rid of the border, nicking | :18:12. | :18:15. | |
sure people could freely move and do business across the island and | :18:16. | :18:19. | |
integrate. The Good Friday Agreement made sure that both the Republic of | :18:20. | :18:22. | |
Ireland and Northern Ireland were members of the European Union. We | :18:23. | :18:26. | |
have the ability as Irish nationalists to integrate in that | :18:27. | :18:30. | |
context. Taking all that away an that context is very damaging to our | :18:31. | :18:38. | |
political and economic progress. What is the special status for | :18:39. | :18:40. | |
Northern Ireland that you want to secure in Europe? What does it look | :18:41. | :18:44. | |
like? It look so much like what we have | :18:45. | :18:49. | |
now. Whether not we remain members of the European Union, it doesn't | :18:50. | :18:55. | |
need to look like that. We can do business and we can move across | :18:56. | :18:59. | |
Ireland. We don't have to try and harder now border. In fact, it isn't | :19:00. | :19:03. | |
possible. There were 260 border crossings from the North to the | :19:04. | :19:07. | |
South. The idea that you could control that border in some way just | :19:08. | :19:12. | |
doesn't make any sense to me. I believe the problems we will face | :19:13. | :19:16. | |
will be much less than the problems the Republic of Ireland will face as | :19:17. | :19:21. | |
a result of the Brexit vote. I think the Irish Government will have a lot | :19:22. | :19:25. | |
of difficulties to deal with, not least that the country that the | :19:26. | :19:32. | |
exporter most do is outside of the European Union. -- that they export | :19:33. | :19:37. | |
most do. The opening of the Irish border has | :19:38. | :19:44. | |
been transformative. 20 years ago, there were watchtowers and military | :19:45. | :19:49. | |
checkpoints here. You can't come down this way. | :19:50. | :19:53. | |
This border ground was sunk in poverty and unemployment. | :19:54. | :19:59. | |
Partition devastated the economy of this area. It was a thriving port, | :20:00. | :20:05. | |
midway between Belfast and Dublin. And that locational advantage with | :20:06. | :20:13. | |
partition was a major disadvantage. It was tied up in the hard border. | :20:14. | :20:18. | |
Our Sister Towler across-the-board, Dundalk, was labelled Al Paso. The | :20:19. | :20:25. | |
rural hinterland was stigmatised by the British media during the | :20:26. | :20:31. | |
troubles as bandit country. Little wonder no-one wants a return | :20:32. | :20:37. | |
to hard border. London and Dublin both say cross-border trade should | :20:38. | :20:41. | |
remain free. But how, when the UK might well be porting goods from | :20:42. | :20:43. | |
around the world that contravene EU might well be porting goods from | :20:44. | :20:49. | |
import rules, could you stop those goods moving illegally across this | :20:50. | :20:53. | |
border and into the European single market? Again, no one knows. But if | :20:54. | :20:57. | |
you live here, it's the most urgent question. | :20:58. | :21:04. | |
I didn't sign up for this, this is not my day job, I'm not a | :21:05. | :21:08. | |
politician, I don't want to be doing this. But I have grown up in this | :21:09. | :21:12. | |
place, and I've seen it at its worst, and I've happy Rutledge of | :21:13. | :21:18. | |
participating with others in its reverb. -- I've had the privilege of | :21:19. | :21:21. | |
participating. In its rebirth. And I reverb. -- I've had the privilege of | :21:22. | :21:29. | |
don't want to lose that. Membership of the European year has | :21:30. | :21:32. | |
also transformed the Irish Republic. Europe is at the heart of its | :21:33. | :21:36. | |
national identity, and has been key to normalising its once acrimonious | :21:37. | :21:42. | |
relationship with the UK. Written and Ireland joined the European | :21:43. | :21:46. | |
Community on the same day in 1973. It is shared membership of that | :21:47. | :21:49. | |
Community on the same day in 1973. single European market that has made | :21:50. | :21:52. | |
that border between them unimportant to the point of invisibility. In | :21:53. | :21:56. | |
Dublin, there is widespread dismay at the prospect of new border | :21:57. | :22:03. | |
controls, and specimen too. The question is how hard the border | :22:04. | :22:07. | |
is. Even the softest borders, with Switzerland, with Norway, that are | :22:08. | :22:12. | |
around the European Union, have a requirement for customs clearances | :22:13. | :22:17. | |
for document checking, etc. So that'll have to be the minimum | :22:18. | :22:22. | |
there. That be disruptive. Even if you have that going to take place in | :22:23. | :22:25. | |
some magical way that British customs will be embedded in Irish | :22:26. | :22:31. | |
sports, which I can see, politically, then that has a | :22:32. | :22:35. | |
consequence. There have to be additional costs imposed on | :22:36. | :22:39. | |
exporters in the North going to the South and vice versa. Whether not | :22:40. | :22:42. | |
there's free movement of people is a different issue. Free movement of | :22:43. | :22:47. | |
people isn't a free movement of work, and free movement of work | :22:48. | :22:51. | |
isn't free movement of goods. And all three have somehow been | :22:52. | :22:55. | |
completed. Ireland's border question finds an | :22:56. | :22:59. | |
echo in Scotland. For if, as London and Dublin both desire, is found to | :23:00. | :23:04. | |
allow trade to continue freely across the border, wouldn't that set | :23:05. | :23:08. | |
a precedent for an independent Scotland trading with a UK outside | :23:09. | :23:10. | |
the EU? Other parallels between Ireland and | :23:11. | :23:17. | |
devolved Scotland and a predicament that Brexit puts a devolved Scotland | :23:18. | :23:23. | |
in? Critically having voted overwhelmingly to Remain? | :23:24. | :23:29. | |
I think it does. This is one of the tent is playing out in Ireland. | :23:30. | :23:33. | |
There is an awareness growing at a solution for Northern Ireland could | :23:34. | :23:37. | |
also have ramifications in Scotland. So this idea is growing that is a | :23:38. | :23:43. | |
border solution was found, said that then be a case used by an | :23:44. | :23:48. | |
independent Scotland, or a pro independence campaign in a future | :23:49. | :23:51. | |
referendum. To say, you did it for Northern Ireland, why can't you did | :23:52. | :23:54. | |
it for Northern Ireland, why can she do it with us? | :23:55. | :24:00. | |
-- why can't you do it with us. The border is one question, others | :24:01. | :24:08. | |
remain. But currency with an independent Scotland use, how would | :24:09. | :24:10. | |
it close the gap between what it spends on what it races in taxation? | :24:11. | :24:16. | |
For that gap is wide. And did it, should it, join the EU? This is the | :24:17. | :24:21. | |
territory on which a second independence referendum would be | :24:22. | :24:24. | |
fought. I can confirm today that next week I | :24:25. | :24:28. | |
will seek the 40 of the Scottish Parliament to agree with the UK | :24:29. | :24:33. | |
Government of the details of a section 30 order. The procedure that | :24:34. | :24:36. | |
will enable the Scottish Parliament to legislate for an independence | :24:37. | :24:39. | |
referendum. I think, just now, we should be | :24:40. | :24:44. | |
putting all our energies into making sure we get the right deal for the | :24:45. | :24:49. | |
UK and for Scotland in our vigorish issues with the European Union. | :24:50. | :24:54. | |
That's my job as Prime Minister. Right now, we should be working | :24:55. | :24:58. | |
together, not pulling apart. Should be working together to get that | :24:59. | :25:02. | |
right it for Scotland and the UK. That's my job as Prime Minister. For | :25:03. | :25:07. | |
that reason, I say to the SNP, now is the time. | :25:08. | :25:13. | |
independence referendum in its tax independence referendum in its tax | :25:14. | :25:18. | |
-- tracks by agreeing to negotiate a separate deal for Scotland. Why | :25:19. | :25:22. | |
would she do that? I have not had anyone in the S to | :25:23. | :25:31. | |
tell me how a deferential deal only differentiates in geography. How can | :25:32. | :25:37. | |
someone working in RBS working in Edinburgh had something different | :25:38. | :25:40. | |
and have the EU negotiations gets some thing different from someone | :25:41. | :25:43. | |
working at the same office, but in London? How can a fruit farmer in | :25:44. | :25:48. | |
Perthshire get something different from one in Kent? I have asked again | :25:49. | :25:53. | |
why this differentiation doesn't seem to apply, but geographic | :25:54. | :25:58. | |
differentiation does. No-one in the SNP can tell me. | :25:59. | :26:04. | |
I know you are doing work on the currency question, we can no longer | :26:05. | :26:10. | |
say we will shed the pounds? I'm not been difficult here, but I'm | :26:11. | :26:14. | |
not going to jump steps and get into detailed discussions now. What I | :26:15. | :26:22. | |
accept and have always accepted, is that Scotland is, those of us who | :26:23. | :26:32. | |
advocate independence have a duty to Ansa the questions people need | :26:33. | :26:38. | |
answers to, and that includes questions about economic stability | :26:39. | :26:42. | |
and around the currency. In this context, it will undoubtedly include | :26:43. | :26:46. | |
questions about our relationship with the European Union. Firstly, we | :26:47. | :26:50. | |
are in a process just now when I have judgment is to make, and so | :26:51. | :26:54. | |
does the Prime Minister, and I will make those in good order and based | :26:55. | :26:59. | |
on what I think is best. I am to jump ahead several steps. | :27:00. | :27:03. | |
When it comes to fighting for independence in a second referendum, | :27:04. | :27:06. | |
we be straight and say, Scotland Islington inherits as an independent | :27:07. | :27:12. | |
country Qu bec deficit. There will be pain, spending cuts, tax | :27:13. | :27:17. | |
increases are big borrowing or accommodation of all three. | :27:18. | :27:21. | |
I will always be straight with people. Scotland as part of UK has a | :27:22. | :27:26. | |
big deficit. We have had apart the past five years spending cuts. Exit | :27:27. | :27:30. | |
is undoubtedly going to make the UK's deficit worse. It will lead to | :27:31. | :27:36. | |
greater spending cuts in the UK and greater pain as a result. The | :27:37. | :27:39. | |
question for Scotland is not how do we escape magically a deficit, is it | :27:40. | :27:47. | |
how do we best equip ourselves to deal that deficit and growth our way | :27:48. | :27:51. | |
into a more sustainable position with our own values underpinning the | :27:52. | :27:56. | |
decisions we take two that is the decision that would be in play | :27:57. | :27:58. | |
Scotland was making that choice again. | :27:59. | :28:04. | |
This week, Nicola Sturgeon will seek authority for a second independence | :28:05. | :28:11. | |
referendum. Theresa May was a no, not yet, and begin the process to | :28:12. | :28:17. | |
take the UK out of Europe. Scotland voted to stay in both unions. It's | :28:18. | :28:23. | |
being told now that it can't have both. That's also being told it | :28:24. | :28:27. | |
can't choose. The decision will be made at Westminster. The political | :28:28. | :28:32. | |
strain that will place on the Anglo-Scottish union is surely | :28:33. | :28:34. | |
clear. | :28:35. | :28:37. |