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-CHANTING: -Yes, we can! | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
You and I, we're going to change this country! | 0:00:03 | 0:00:05 | |
And we will change the world! | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
For millions, the election of Barack Obama to the Oval Office | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
marked a new era of hope. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
The young, energetic President was eager to take on the great | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
challenges of his time. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
Our combat mission in Iraq will end. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
Guantanamo will be closed one year from now. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:30 | |
Now is the time to finally keep the promise of affordable, | 0:00:30 | 0:00:34 | |
accessible health care for every single American. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
CHEERING | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
The President turned around with this great smile on his face, | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
he said, "Well, then, of course I'm feeling lucky." | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
All right, let's go. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:44 | |
Let's go get them. It's game time. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:46 | |
But change would be harder than Obama had predicted. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
Am I frustrated that we're not taking bolder steps? | 0:00:51 | 0:00:56 | |
Absolutely. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
He said, "I am President of the United States, | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
"and I can't make anything happen." | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
He stood up in place and said, "That's it, I'm finished." | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
He said, "You know, I don't sleep at night very much." | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
He called me a name that I hadn't heard before or | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
since and stormed out of the room. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
In these four programmes, Barack Obama | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
and his inner circle tell the story of what happened when he tried to | 0:01:18 | 0:01:22 | |
reshape America from inside a White House | 0:01:22 | 0:01:24 | |
unlike any other in history. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
I am temperamentally optimistic... and... | 0:01:29 | 0:01:33 | |
tend to take the long view. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
# Ama... | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:01:38 | 0:01:39 | |
# ..zing grace | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
CHEERING | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
# How sweet | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
# The sound... # | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
In tonight's programme, | 0:01:51 | 0:01:52 | |
how Obama's promise to change America was knocked off course | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
by the financial crisis before he even took the oath of office. | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
There's a bunch of other things we need to do, | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
but the success of those things, they were going to require | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
getting the economy out of the hole we were in. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
If we didn't, there wasn't going to be success, no matter what | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
else good the President did. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
Election night, 2008. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
Barack Obama's supporters were confident that the first | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
African-American president would reverse the legacy of eight years | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
under George W Bush. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
-CHANTING: -Yes, we can! Yes, we can! | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
CHEERING | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
But even as he basked in his victory, | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
Obama knew the country was on the brink of a financial collapse. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
During the course of the campaign, I was having fairly constant | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
phone calls with financial advisors, so by the time | 0:03:04 | 0:03:09 | |
I was President-elect, I had a good | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
sense that we were in the midst of a major crisis. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
What I wasn't aware of was how rapid the bottom would fall out | 0:03:15 | 0:03:21 | |
and the fact that... | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
what had started on Wall Street was now spreading through Main Street. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
It was worse than Obama knew. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:30 | |
A month later, he was given news | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
that would affect his entire presidency. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
The unemployment figures. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
That day, they were just horrible, so we learned we'd not only | 0:03:38 | 0:03:43 | |
lost 533,000 jobs, | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
but the numbers for October | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
and September had been revised down, | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
so suddenly we're looking at these numbers and it's like, "We have | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
"750,000 fewer people employed than we thought we had yesterday." | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
I wanted to call you, just because... | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
Someone said, "The President would like to | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
"talk to you on the phone about the employment numbers." | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
And I was almost incoherent, it was almost... | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
"The President-elect, I'm so sorry, these are so horrible." | 0:04:12 | 0:04:16 | |
And that was when he kind of lightened the mood when he said, | 0:04:16 | 0:04:20 | |
"Christy, it's not your fault." | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
And then with that long pause, | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
"Yet." | 0:04:25 | 0:04:26 | |
Obama arrived home in Chicago and gathered his economic advisers. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:32 | |
The news was about to get even worse. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
A number of us wanted to meet with him before the main meeting | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
because we wanted to get a preview of what the President-elect | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
was going to hear. And they painted | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
an extraordinarily grim picture. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
David Axelrod looks at the numbers, | 0:04:47 | 0:04:52 | |
at the forecast of what's going to happen, | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
and he says, "You're telling us | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
"that even if we pass the biggest | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
"stimulus of all time, the unemployment rate is | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
"still going to go to 8.7%," | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
or whatever was the forecast at that time. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
And they said, "Yes." | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
He said, "Well, that's certainly going to be a massive challenge." | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
Here's the problem. We haven't had a "holy shit" moment, | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
where people recognised just how serious the problem was. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:25 | |
It was really the first time that the President's new | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
team of economic advisers met with those of us | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
who were in leadership roles. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:38 | |
Their opinion was...shocking. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
I remember some of the language that was used, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
that I was surprised to hear that day as well. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
I said, you know, "David just told us that the | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
"American people hadn't had their 'holy shit' moment," | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
so I said, "Mr President-elect, this is your 'holy shit' moment. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
And just basically walked him through how terrible | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
the downturn that we were facing really was. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
I talk about housing, and I say, "We've got | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
"a third of the people under water under mortgages. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
"We've never had anything like this ever in US history. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
"If all of these people decide to walk away, we're doomed, | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
"we have no idea what to do. Because we're going to have | 0:06:19 | 0:06:23 | |
"so many losses that are then going to take down the banks." | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
'I had the worst job, I had the dirtiest job, which was to try to | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
'lay out for the President | 0:06:30 | 0:06:32 | |
'what we had to do next for the financial system.' | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
It was a major factor why the economy was falling off the cliff | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
and accelerating, if that's possible in physics. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
The fate of the presidency was going to ride on | 0:06:41 | 0:06:46 | |
whether we produced a successful recovery or not. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:51 | |
Larry Summers said, "Mr President, there is | 0:06:51 | 0:06:55 | |
"a one in three chance of a second Great Depression." | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
Now, that's not something you can ever imagine. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
You read about the Depression in history books, | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
but you don't think about it happening in our time. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
We realised we were going to have to take substantial, sustained | 0:07:08 | 0:07:13 | |
action, that the politics of it | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
were going to be extraordinarily difficult. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
There are only so many hours in the day, | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
and with this as a first priority, | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
other priorities were going to have to wait a bit. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
I remember looking right at him. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
I had known him for a long time before that. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
You could tell he was not pleased. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
He had a kind of little tuck in the corners of his mouth, | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
but he remained even keel. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
As President, you have to deal with the unexpected. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
That's part of the job description. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
Obama had spent the last two years telling the American people | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
that no change was too hard. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
Thank you very much, everybody. Thank you. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
The people have remarked on the fact that | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
I talk about hope a lot in my campaign. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
They tease me a little bit. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
Some have been scornful. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
They say, "Oh, he's talking about hope again. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
"He's so idealistic, he's so naive. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
"He's a hopemonger." | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:08:27 | 0:08:29 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:08:29 | 0:08:30 | |
That's OK, it's true, I talk about hope. I talk about it a lot. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:35 | |
Because the odds of me standing here today... | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
..are so small, so remote... | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
that I couldn't have gotten here without some hope. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
-Everyone all right? -Yeah! | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
-How are you, sir? -Welcome aboard, sir. -Good to see you. | 0:08:57 | 0:08:59 | |
-Great pleasure. -Thank you so much. I appreciate it. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
Early in January, the President-elect moved to Washington. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
He had offered a vision of a united America, | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
a more perfect union was within reach. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
I believe that our future is our choice. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
And that if we could just recognise ourselves in one another and | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
bring everyone together, Democrats, Republicans and Independents. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
Democrats, Republicans, Independents, Latino, Asian, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
and Native American. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:33 | |
Black, white, Latino, Asian, Native American, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
gay and straight... | 0:09:36 | 0:09:37 | |
And if enough of our voices join together, if we see each other | 0:09:37 | 0:09:42 | |
in each other's eyes, we can bring those walls tumbling down. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
The walls of Jericho can finally come tumbling down. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
That is our hope. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:09:52 | 0:09:53 | |
That not only would we restore hope and opportunity | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
in places that yearn for both, | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
but maybe, just maybe we might perfect our union in the process. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
In that spirit, Obama went to Congress to ask the leaders | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
of the two parties to work together at this time of national crisis. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
He wanted them to pass a bill to inject | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
nearly 800 billion | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
into the economy, a fiscal stimulus. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
His chief of staff knew that with so much money to play with, | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
it would be hard to keep his own side under control. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
There were Democrats waiting their entire career for this, | 0:10:32 | 0:10:37 | |
not for a recession, | 0:10:37 | 0:10:38 | |
but to advance good economic and social policy. Very good. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:43 | |
They had just been through eight years with a president who | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
was not just against those things, but starving those investments. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:51 | |
The Democrats had not been in power | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
with a President in the White House for a very long time. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
This was an opportunity for us, | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
for all of our pent-up ideas | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
and aspirations to work with a new President. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
I personally was looking for a package | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
that was over a trillion dollars. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
Rosa DeLuro, a liberal congresswoman, | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
wanted to spend billions of stimulus dollars on child benefits. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
Her plan was to lower the income level | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
at which the working poor would receive them. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
Speaker Pelosi at that time, I regaled her day in and day out, | 0:11:26 | 0:11:31 | |
day in and day out. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
I asked her to please, in the negotiations, reduce that threshold. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
If we could get it down to 8,000, | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
it would be reasonable, we could live with that. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
If they're refundable for low-income people, that's where we would go. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
And I never will forget, she came into the leadership meeting | 0:11:46 | 0:11:51 | |
and she said to me, "Rosa," she says, | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
"I couldn't get it down to 8,000" | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
and I'm, "What do you mean you couldn't get it down to 8,000?" | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
She says, "We got it down to 3,000." | 0:11:58 | 0:12:02 | |
Unbelievable. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
You know, when it's first going through the House, | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
the bill keeps getting bigger and bigger. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
You know, I think at one point it was getting close to a trillion | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
and I'm doing my little happy dance in the office. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
When the Speaker released the draft stimulus bill, | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
the Democrats had added billions of dollars in new projects. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
Good afternoon, everyone. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
This is the first time Republicans and the American people | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
have had a chance to see any of the specifics | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
that are being presented today | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
by Congressional Democrats. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
I just took a moment to look over the draft. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
Oh, my God! | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
I don't even... | 0:12:44 | 0:12:45 | |
My notes here say that I'm disappointed. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
I just can't tell you... | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
how shocked I am at what we're seeing. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
It's clear that they're moving on this path | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
along the flawed notion | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
that we can borrow and spend our way back to prosperity. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:07 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
For the first time in 15 years, Democrats would have majorities | 0:13:19 | 0:13:24 | |
in both Houses of Congress and hold the White House. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
On the 20th of January, 2009, Obama was inaugurated | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
with all the glamour of concerts and balls. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:37 | |
-Go. -OK. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
# At last | 0:13:55 | 0:14:03 | |
# My love has come along... # | 0:14:03 | 0:14:09 | |
'The celebratory mood in Washington is indescribable.' | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
It was like the Academy Awards every single day | 0:14:11 | 0:14:16 | |
'and no matter where you looked, | 0:14:16 | 0:14:17 | |
'you recognised somebody because all of Hollywood was here.' | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
# And life is like a song | 0:14:20 | 0:14:26 | |
# Ohhhh, yeah, yeah... # | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
'It's like everybody was a Democrat | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
'and Happy Days Are Here Again | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
'and that was the mood that we Republicans | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
'had been through since Election Day.' | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
And now it's January 20th and the weather stinks | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
and the situation stinks | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
and the future looks pretty bleak. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
# At last | 0:14:51 | 0:14:55 | |
# Oooooooh... # | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
'We Republicans were realising that we were now essentially irrelevant. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:04 | |
'We simply didn't matter.' | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:15:06 | 0:15:12 | |
-Good morning. -MANY VOICES: -Good morning. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
Before I begin today's announcement, | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
I want to say a few words about the deepening economic crisis | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
that we've inherited and the need for urgent action. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
Over the last few days, we've learned that | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
Microsoft, Intel, United Airlines, | 0:15:38 | 0:15:42 | |
Home Depot, Sprint Nextel, | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
and Caterpillar are each cutting thousands of jobs. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
We owe it to every single American | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
to act with a sense of urgency and common purpose. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
'The President felt that when we did the stimulus that it could be | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
'a bipartisan vote, that's why so much of the stimulus | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
'was in tax cuts which was a priority for Republicans.' | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
The President felt so strongly about this | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
that, in his first week in office, | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
he went up to the Capitol | 0:16:14 | 0:16:16 | |
to meet with the entire House Republican caucus | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
to explain what was in the stimulus, | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
what his priorities were, to hear their views | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
and to see if there was common ground possible. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
To make it easier for Republicans to vote yes, | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
Obama had included 300 billion | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
of tax cuts in the stimulus. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
While we were on our way up to the Capitol to have that meeting, | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
the Republican leadership sent out an alert to all their members, | 0:16:41 | 0:16:45 | |
encouraging them, asking them | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
to vote no on the stimulus. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
'It had, I think, a dampening effect on the conversation | 0:17:01 | 0:17:05 | |
'we were hoping to have. The answer was no | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
'before we could even ask for them to consider it.' | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
They would have loved our support, but at the end of the day, | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
when we looked at the bill, | 0:17:16 | 0:17:17 | |
we didn't believe that this was actually up to the task. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
On the off chance it did work and we were wrong about that, | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
the President was, of course, to get all the credit. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
and we would have just been sort of bystanders | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
and perhaps a backdrop to this bipartisan roadshow. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:33 | |
Not one Republican voted for the bill, | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
even though, just four months earlier, | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
it was the Democrats | 0:17:38 | 0:17:39 | |
who had passed President Bush's crisis bill. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
We didn't agree with Bush. We fought him on the war in Iraq, | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
we fought him on privatising social security, | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
but we worked with him on many other issues | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
and I don't want it to sound idyllic, | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
but it was different from what they did with President Obama. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:58 | |
It just was so sad. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
I said to my Democratic colleagues that it was important for us | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
to go ahead and take action even if the Republicans were unwilling. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
The 820 billion package approved by the House | 0:18:11 | 0:18:16 | |
included the biggest investment in green energy in US history, | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
as well as huge sums for roads, schools, | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
local government and tax cuts. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
Now the bill went to the Senate - | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
where the Democrats' majority was smaller. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
They needed 60 votes. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
They had 58. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
'I went to see a very senior Republican | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
'who I had dated periodically. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
'And I said to her, "How are we going to make this deal?" | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
And she looked at me and said, "Well, what do you mean?" | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
And I said, 'How do we negotiate this?" | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
And she said, "Oh, sweetie, you're so naive. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
"We're not going to work with you on anything." | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
And I kind of looked at her and thought she was kidding | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
and it turns out she wasn't kidding. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
Obama needed a couple of Republican senators | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
to rebel against their party. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:07 | |
He asked the leader of the Senate Democrats to find them. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
I knew from the very beginning | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
that I had to have at least two Republicans | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
to support what we wanted, | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
but, as it turned out, | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
two wouldn't do it. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
None of the Republicans who wanted to do something to help | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
wanted to be the 60th vote, | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
so I had to get 61 votes on everything and it was very hard. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:34 | |
The only ones I had any hope of getting, | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
Specter from Pennsylvania, and then I had the two Senators from Maine. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:42 | |
Senator Susan Collins, a Republican Reid was targeting, | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
was called to the Oval Office. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
I was shocked when I walked in, | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
expecting to see the economic advisors, other staff taking notes | 0:19:50 | 0:19:56 | |
and, instead, it was just | 0:19:56 | 0:20:00 | |
the President and me. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
I told him I thought the package was too big. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
He told me that his economists were telling him that a smaller package | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
would not do the trick. It would not boost the economy sufficiently. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
He kept pushing very hard for a much larger bill | 0:20:13 | 0:20:18 | |
in the neighbourhood of 1 trillion. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
I knew that was a no-go. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
Collins agreed to meet with a group of 17 other Senators | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
from both parties, who were negotiating informally. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
In Senate jargon, these groups are known as gangs. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
'This gang of 18 came together' | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
with the primary focus of wanting to reduce the cost | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
by at least 100 billion. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
A 100 billion of government spending | 0:20:48 | 0:20:52 | |
probably shaves about a half a percentage point | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
off the unemployment rate, so that's a lot of people | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
that are going to lose their jobs | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
if you shave 100 billion off the fiscal stimulus | 0:21:01 | 0:21:05 | |
and so, yes, it was very painful and very sad to watch. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:10 | |
Obama decided to accept the cuts, | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
confident they would buy him the votes he needed. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:17 | |
He flew out to a Democratic party retreat. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
It is great to be here | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
with so many friends. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
Thank you for giving me | 0:21:26 | 0:21:30 | |
a reason to use Air Force One. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE | 0:21:32 | 0:21:36 | |
It's pretty nice. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
The President mocked his opponents' arguments against the stimulus. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
You want to replace the federal fleet with hybrid cars. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:52 | |
Well, why wouldn't we want to do that? | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
That creates jobs for people who make those cars. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
It saves the Federal Government energy. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
It saves the taxpayers energy. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
So then you get the argument, "Well, this is not a stimulus bill, | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
"this is a spending bill." | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
What do you think a stimulus is? | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
That's the whole point. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
No, seriously. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:24 | |
That's the point. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:28 | |
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
The fun was over. Back in Washington, | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
his victory was slipping away. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
The Republican leaders were fighting back. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
'Although we had a number of Republicans who joined | 0:22:41 | 0:22:45 | |
'those first few meetings, gradually the numbers diminished greatly.' | 0:22:45 | 0:22:51 | |
We never stopped trying to convince our colleagues | 0:22:51 | 0:22:56 | |
that this was not something that was worthy of their support. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
It obviously was pretty lonely in the Republican Caucus. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
It's as hard now my just thinking about it as it was at the time. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:10 | |
I didn't know if we could get this done | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
and I told the President that. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:15 | |
I had to wait till his helicopter had landed | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
to give him the bad news, saying, "I'm not sure I can get this done." | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
I'd received this phone call from Harry Reid | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
to come over to his office and I really debated whether or not to go. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:33 | |
I went into the room | 0:23:38 | 0:23:40 | |
and the room was already filled with Democratic leadership. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:45 | |
Senator Collins, from the State of Maine, | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
objected to a 16 billion programme for school construction. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
The Democrats' number two in the Senate tried to find a compromise. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:57 | |
She was picking and choosing things | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
that she wanted to bargain for. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:01 | |
I remember that, in particular, was troubling | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
because I thought it was a good investment. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
I knew that that would create huge opposition on my side of the aisle | 0:24:06 | 0:24:11 | |
because we'd be redefining the Federal role in education. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:15 | |
And then the conversation kind of shifted over to health clinics | 0:24:15 | 0:24:20 | |
and there was a suggestion made | 0:24:20 | 0:24:21 | |
that we could take some of those resources | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
and put them into constructing community health clinics, | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
even in the State of Maine, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
and she lit up and showed some real interest. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
Obama phoned into the meeting to OK the deals | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
that Harry Reid was making with the Republican rebels. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
Each of them got in the way of each other, | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
they all got in the way of me, but, finally, we got something done. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:44 | |
On this vote, the Yeas are 61, | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
the Nays are 36. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
Three-fifths of the Senators duly chosen and sworn | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
having voted in the affirmative, the motion is agreed to. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:58 | |
Even after the cuts, this was still the largest stimulus in US history. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:08 | |
Obama had pushed it through Congress in just six weeks. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:12 | |
But there was still a lot to do. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
The economy was shrinking at a terrifying rate. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
Ordinary folks were experiencing job loss, | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
but also seeing their home values suddenly diminish by 50%-100%. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:31 | |
This was going to be a long slog | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
and I think the biggest challenge at that point | 0:25:34 | 0:25:38 | |
was to try to set expectations properly, | 0:25:38 | 0:25:43 | |
try to explain to the American people what was happening. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
'But also maintain a sense of hope.' | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
This young lady has been waiting very patiently. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
And she's just been standing there... | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
At a town hall meeting in South Florida, | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
Obama came face-to-face with one of the millions living on the edge. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:01 | |
Go ahead. Here, you've got the microphone right behind you. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
I first want to say I respect you and I am so grateful for you. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
-Thank you. -I've been praying for you. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
I believe in prayers, so I appreciate that. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
I have an urgent need. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
Unemployment and homelessness - | 0:26:17 | 0:26:18 | |
a very small vehicle for my family and I to live in. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
We need urgent... | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
And the housing authority has two-year waiting lists. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
And we need something more than a vehicle and the parks to go to. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:31 | |
We need our own kitchen and our own bathroom. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:35 | |
Please, help. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
Well, I... Listen, I... What's your name? | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
What's your name? | 0:26:40 | 0:26:41 | |
It's Henrietta Hughes. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
OK, Ms Hughes. Well, we're going to do everything we can to help you, | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
but there are a lot of people like you | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
and we're going to do everything we can, all right? | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
But the... I'll have my staff talk to you after this... | 0:26:52 | 0:26:56 | |
after the town hall, all right? | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
All right. Erm, back here! | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
'Everyone understood what the deep issue was | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
and that is you've got 100 million people living in houses | 0:27:08 | 0:27:13 | |
where their mortgage is bigger than the value of their house. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:17 | |
So, either the banks | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
are going to have to take 750 billion of losses | 0:27:19 | 0:27:24 | |
or the government's going to have to come up with 750 billion | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
to pay off these people's mortgages, | 0:27:28 | 0:27:30 | |
which is, in addition to us | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
not having an extra 750 billion sitting around, | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
is going to lead to unbelievable howls of protest. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
The banks, panicked that the housing crisis would bring them down, | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
had stopped lending. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:45 | |
If his stimulus were to work, Obama had to reassure the bankers. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
But, in his first press conference, | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
he made matters even worse. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
We are still going to have to get the credit markets flowing again, | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
because that's the lifeblood of the economy. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
And so tomorrow my Treasury Secretary, Tim Geithner, | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
will be announcing some very clear and specific plans | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
for how we are going to start loosening up credit once again. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:11 | |
And beyond that, I'm going to make sure | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
that Tim gets his moment in the sun tomorrow. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
He's going to be terrific. Major Garrett, where's Major? | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
'We had no playbook for these things. I was not sure | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
that we'd figured out something that had the chance of working yet. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
I felt for Tim because he was under a lot of pressure to come out | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
and say SOMETHING, because people needed to know that we had a plan. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:37 | |
But the plan wasn't fully formulated yet, | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
which became apparent | 0:28:40 | 0:28:42 | |
when he came out and spoke in generalities. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
Banks and the credit markets transform the earnings | 0:28:45 | 0:28:49 | |
and savings of American workers into the loans that finance | 0:28:49 | 0:28:53 | |
a first home, a new car or a college education. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:57 | |
And this system provides the capital and the credit necessary | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
to build a company around a new idea. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
'I thought it was terrible, | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
'I could see in the eyes of the people watching, | 0:29:06 | 0:29:08 | |
'I'd had enough experience that you can get a feel' | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
for how people are reacting to it. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
What was most alarming to me watching the speech | 0:29:13 | 0:29:17 | |
and watching the coverage of the speech was that the news channels | 0:29:17 | 0:29:22 | |
were putting the stock market ticker up as he's speaking | 0:29:22 | 0:29:26 | |
'so while you're supposed to be | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
'watching Tim give his major speech, | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
'you're watching something much more interesting - | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
'the market is ticking down rapidly.' | 0:29:34 | 0:29:38 | |
Geithner faced Obama the next morning. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:43 | |
I walked into his office and he said, "How could this have happened? | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
"How could you have let this happen?" | 0:29:46 | 0:29:48 | |
He said it to his assembled advisers, but it was really on me. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
It looked like Geithner was the first one who was, you know, | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
as they used to say in Chicago, being fitted for concrete overshoes. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
Earlier today, I proposed | 0:30:03 | 0:30:05 | |
that the Federal Treasury set aside 420 billion. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:09 | |
This 420 billion will be placed in a special fund | 0:30:09 | 0:30:13 | |
and will go to the first individual | 0:30:13 | 0:30:15 | |
who comes up with a workable plan to solve the banking crisis. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:19 | |
If you have such a plan, or know of someone who does, | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
you can call the number on the screen below to claim this reward. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:34 | |
Obama shrugged off the critics | 0:30:39 | 0:30:41 | |
and let the Treasury Secretary publish his plan | 0:30:41 | 0:30:43 | |
to get the banks lending. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:45 | |
He called it the stress test - | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
a massive new inspection programme that would force banks | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
to open their books to see if they could survive another crisis. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:54 | |
"OK, what's the probability we're going to have a Great Depression? | 0:30:56 | 0:30:59 | |
"If we had a Great Depression, what would the losses be?" | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
We made it clear that we would make sure there was enough capital | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
in the system to cover those losses | 0:31:05 | 0:31:07 | |
and if there was not enough private capital to come in | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
and cover those losses, we'd put public capital in. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:12 | |
As the country waited for the Treasury | 0:31:14 | 0:31:15 | |
to complete the stress tests, | 0:31:15 | 0:31:17 | |
critics argued that Geithner's plan | 0:31:17 | 0:31:19 | |
wouldn't be enough to solve the problem. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:21 | |
Some politicians started to think the unthinkable - | 0:31:22 | 0:31:26 | |
nationalise the banks. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:28 | |
I think if you put most of our major banks under a stress test, | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
they're going to fail. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:33 | |
-And this idea... -And this stress test is starting this week? | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
Yes, this idea of nationalising banks is not comfortable, | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
but I'm very much afraid that any programme to salvage the banks | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
is going to require the government... | 0:31:42 | 0:31:43 | |
-So what would you do now? -I would not take off the idea | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
of nationalising the banks. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:47 | |
Obama challenged his Treasury Secretary. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
Was he being radical enough? | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
We had one of these really tough conversations, which is, | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
do you... | 0:31:58 | 0:31:59 | |
"Are you confident this is going to work? Can you reassure me? | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
"Why are you confident? What are our choices?" | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
And I told him that my judgment at that time was that, er... | 0:32:06 | 0:32:10 | |
we had no option but to play out the thing we'd set in motion. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:14 | |
'The President really flayed the financial team | 0:32:14 | 0:32:18 | |
'for having failed to come up with an answer,' | 0:32:18 | 0:32:22 | |
sometimes in very, very, blunt and pointed terms. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:27 | |
Obama summoned his economic team | 0:32:27 | 0:32:29 | |
to debate the case for nationalising the banks. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
They wouldn't leave the White House for seven hours. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
We sat in the Roosevelt room around that table, the table was full, | 0:32:39 | 0:32:42 | |
maybe, I don't know, 10-15 people | 0:32:42 | 0:32:44 | |
with the President right across from me and Larry | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
and we had a tough, rich debate. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
Two of Obama's most trusted economic advisers - | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
Larry Summers and Christy Romer - | 0:32:54 | 0:32:56 | |
were arguing in favour of nationalisation. | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
I wanted as robust a response as possible. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:05 | |
You take them over, you peel off the bad assets, | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
you recapitalise them, you sell them back to the private sector. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
Geithner brought his team from the Treasury to urge caution. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:15 | |
What we tried to do is to marinate the President | 0:33:15 | 0:33:19 | |
and his advisers in the perils of those alternate paths. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:23 | |
I said to the President, if Tim goes out and announces | 0:33:23 | 0:33:27 | |
that a Citi or a Wells Fargo or a Bank of America is insolvent | 0:33:27 | 0:33:32 | |
and the world watches their stock price | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
go from 40 to 0 in an hour, | 0:33:35 | 0:33:40 | |
what are you going to do if you hold stock in one of the other banks? | 0:33:40 | 0:33:45 | |
Are you going to hold, are you going to buy | 0:33:45 | 0:33:47 | |
or are you going to sell as fast as you possibly can? | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
And if everybody does that, | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
then you are literally having a bank run | 0:33:52 | 0:33:56 | |
that could lead to another great global depression. | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
How do you know that that's what's going to happen? | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
I mean, I think that was a possibility and the question is, | 0:34:02 | 0:34:06 | |
"Is it a 1% possibility | 0:34:06 | 0:34:08 | |
"or a 50% possibility?" | 0:34:08 | 0:34:09 | |
I think that was the debate. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:11 | |
We're not sitting there trying to figure out | 0:34:11 | 0:34:13 | |
what is the ideal in some perfect world if you had perfect knowledge. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
We're living in the real world. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
Obama, in a pre-planned gesture with Rahm Emanuel, the Chief of Staff, | 0:34:22 | 0:34:27 | |
got up and said, "I'm going to get a haircut, | 0:34:27 | 0:34:29 | |
"going to have dinner with my family." | 0:34:29 | 0:34:31 | |
"You all stay here..." Clear we didn't get dinner, | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
"and you figure out, you have an answer for me when I come back." | 0:34:34 | 0:34:39 | |
Sometimes, you can just have a debating society | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
and somebody has to be able to pick up the bucket of cold water | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
and throw some down. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:46 | |
What Rahm did is say, if you like the idea of a strategy | 0:34:48 | 0:34:52 | |
that requires us to go get hundreds of billions more dollars | 0:34:52 | 0:34:54 | |
for this stuff, there is no chance. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:56 | |
He didn't use that phrase, he was less polite. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:58 | |
"We're not nationalising the banks. You can propose it, discuss it, | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
"debate it, is it good, go to the Brooke Institute, | 0:35:01 | 0:35:03 | |
"go to Aspen Institute and have a discussion. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:05 | |
"This Congress is not passing | 0:35:05 | 0:35:07 | |
"and we're not going to nationalise the banks." | 0:35:07 | 0:35:09 | |
-"There's no -BLEEP -way we're going to get another dime from Congress." | 0:35:09 | 0:35:13 | |
"So what is it we can do | 0:35:13 | 0:35:15 | |
"to get you what YOU need without THAT medicine?" | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
That was it. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:19 | |
Obama's team agreed to stick with Geithner's plan | 0:35:21 | 0:35:25 | |
and it worked. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
When the stress tests were done, | 0:35:29 | 0:35:31 | |
the banks started lending again. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:33 | |
A few days after the debate on the banks, | 0:35:37 | 0:35:39 | |
Obama had to make a choice | 0:35:39 | 0:35:40 | |
where the political cost could be much higher - | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
a million American jobs and the pride of the nation were at stake. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:47 | |
-NEWSREEL: -Detroit put the world on wheels. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:01 | |
In one generation, these and other names | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
created America's number one industry, | 0:36:04 | 0:36:06 | |
birthplace of the production line | 0:36:06 | 0:36:08 | |
and the unheard of idea that everybody can ride. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:11 | |
By the time Obama was elected, | 0:36:12 | 0:36:14 | |
the American auto industry was on its knees. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
The three big car companies were on the verge of bankruptcy. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
He gave Wall Street banker Steven Rattner | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
the job of finding a solution. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
We knew early on that we would have to make a trip to Detroit. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
Frankly, it was more symbolic than substantive. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:34 | |
We went to GM and we drove hydrogen fuelled cars and electric cars | 0:36:34 | 0:36:40 | |
and all these new gadgets. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
And, from there, we went to Chrysler | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
where we met in a decrepit old plant. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
There was no question Chrysler was in the worse shape. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:52 | |
It was laden with debt, | 0:36:52 | 0:36:53 | |
it had given up long ago almost all of its international operations. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
It didn't have a single car that was on the recommended list | 0:36:56 | 0:37:00 | |
of Consumer Reports. It was a mess. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
Rattner decided that General Motors needed a total overhaul | 0:37:03 | 0:37:07 | |
and a government takeover. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:09 | |
Ford could survive. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:10 | |
However, Chrysler would go under unless someone bought it. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:14 | |
The only interested buyer, Fiat, | 0:37:14 | 0:37:17 | |
demanded a 6 billion government loan. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:19 | |
Larry Summers was in favour of the deal | 0:37:21 | 0:37:23 | |
and organised a briefing for the President. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
The advisor who was against the deal wasn't invited. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
Have a seat. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:33 | |
Larry started to explain the auto situation to the President | 0:37:34 | 0:37:38 | |
and the President interrupted | 0:37:38 | 0:37:39 | |
and said, "Larry, I've read the materials." | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
And the President looked around the room | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
and said, "Does everybody agree with this recommendation?" | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
And I said, "Well, Austan's the real expert here," | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
and that was when the President said, "Gee, where is Austan?" | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
And I kind of said... | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
I didn't throw anyone under the bus, | 0:37:55 | 0:37:57 | |
but I said, you know, "He wasn't on the manifest," | 0:37:57 | 0:37:59 | |
and the President kind of called out to his secretary, | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
"Get Austan on the phone and tell him to get over here!" | 0:38:02 | 0:38:04 | |
They call me on the phone | 0:38:04 | 0:38:05 | |
and they say, "Why aren't you in the Oval Office?" "Wait, what? | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
"I don't..." so I run over there, | 0:38:08 | 0:38:09 | |
"I'm supposed to be in the Oval Office!" | 0:38:09 | 0:38:11 | |
But Obama postponed his decision - | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
he had run out of time to hear the arguments. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
He had a meeting on Afghanistan, he had a meeting on Iraq. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:24 | |
'He had a town hall meeting on the economy.' | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
-Yes? -Mr President, what specific steps do you see | 0:38:27 | 0:38:31 | |
your administration taking about the health of the auto industry? | 0:38:31 | 0:38:35 | |
OK, it's a very topical question | 0:38:35 | 0:38:39 | |
because I'm going to be making some announcements | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
over the next several days about the auto industry. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:45 | |
Just a few hours later, Obama reconvened his advisors | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
to help him make the decision on Chrysler. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:52 | |
Public opinion was very negative. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:56 | |
Even in the State of Michigan, | 0:38:56 | 0:38:57 | |
I pointed out, people were opposed | 0:38:57 | 0:38:59 | |
to bailing out the auto industry despite the fact that Michigan | 0:38:59 | 0:39:02 | |
was the home of the auto industry | 0:39:02 | 0:39:04 | |
because there was tremendous anger | 0:39:04 | 0:39:06 | |
about how the auto executives had run the industry for decades. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:11 | |
I said that if the government doesn't act | 0:39:11 | 0:39:13 | |
within a matter of weeks, Chrysler would run out of money, | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
it would not be able to pay any of its bills. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
The electric lights would go out, | 0:39:19 | 0:39:21 | |
the workers would stop being paid, | 0:39:21 | 0:39:23 | |
the cars would stop being made, | 0:39:23 | 0:39:25 | |
suppliers would no longer receive their payments, | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
the doors would close and all those workers would be out of jobs. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:31 | |
The people who buy Chryslers, | 0:39:31 | 0:39:35 | |
if there's no Chrysler, then what are they going to go buy? | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
And my view was that the evidence said they would probably go, | 0:39:38 | 0:39:42 | |
if you couldn't buy a Ram Truck, then you probably would buy a Ford. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:46 | |
The President was sitting very contemplatively | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
with his chin in his hand and clearly thinking about it | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
and clearly torn and trying to... | 0:39:57 | 0:39:59 | |
And also, in fairness, this was not his area of historic expertise | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
and so he's trying to digest all this stuff about sales rates | 0:40:02 | 0:40:06 | |
and unemployment and jobs and this and that and loans, | 0:40:06 | 0:40:10 | |
but, at the end of it, he processed everything | 0:40:10 | 0:40:13 | |
and he said, "I've made my decision. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:15 | |
"If we can save Chrysler in a commercially sensible way, | 0:40:15 | 0:40:19 | |
"then we should do it." | 0:40:19 | 0:40:20 | |
Most of the decisions I make | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
don't lend themselves | 0:40:23 | 0:40:25 | |
to a clean, crisp, | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
wonderful solution. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:30 | |
When they do, somebody else typically solves them | 0:40:30 | 0:40:35 | |
and they never arrive at my desk. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:38 | |
I went back to my office and slumped in my chair. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:43 | |
After that, I was exhausted and the phone rang, it was Rahm and he said, | 0:40:43 | 0:40:47 | |
"Get in here right away. Fargo, North Dakota is underwater." | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
There was a flood that had taken out an entire city | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
and I thought to myself | 0:40:56 | 0:40:58 | |
it was like we're in an episode of the West Wing here. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:01 | |
I mean, you couldn't make this stuff up. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:03 | |
Obama had been battling the recession for three months | 0:41:05 | 0:41:09 | |
when he bailed out the motor industry. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
The early weeks of his presidency, | 0:41:11 | 0:41:13 | |
when he was at the peak of his popularity, were gone. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
Now, he was determined to catch up. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
One promise in particular had inspired the world | 0:41:21 | 0:41:23 | |
to believe that he would restore America's ideals. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:27 | |
"In order to close the detention facility at Guantanamo | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
"consistent with the national security | 0:41:32 | 0:41:34 | |
"and foreign policy interests of the United States, | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
"and the interest of justice, | 0:41:37 | 0:41:39 | |
"I hereby order..." and we then provide the process | 0:41:39 | 0:41:44 | |
whereby Guantanamo will be closed no later than one year from now. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:49 | |
The President charged me | 0:41:49 | 0:41:51 | |
with the responsibility | 0:41:51 | 0:41:52 | |
of coming up with a plan | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
to close Guantanamo. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:56 | |
The Attorney General had thought | 0:41:56 | 0:41:58 | |
that some prisoners could be released | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
and most of the rest sent to trial. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:03 | |
But, soon, he had to tell the President he was wrong. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
The vast majority of Guantanamo prisoners could not be prosecuted. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:10 | |
We frankly did not have a desire to rely on testimony | 0:42:11 | 0:42:16 | |
or information gleaned from a prisoner | 0:42:16 | 0:42:18 | |
that was as a result of torture. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
That seemed to us to be inconsistent with who we were as a nation | 0:42:25 | 0:42:29 | |
and certainly inconsistent with the way in which | 0:42:29 | 0:42:32 | |
we wanted this administration to be viewed around the world. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:36 | |
Since he couldn't prosecute them, | 0:42:39 | 0:42:41 | |
Obama needed to move detainees to the US - | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
either to prison or for release. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
His team decided to begin with a group of independence fighters | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
from Eastern China who'd gone to Afghanistan for training - | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
the Uighurs. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:56 | |
The US courts had ordered their release | 0:43:04 | 0:43:07 | |
and the Guantanamo team suggested | 0:43:07 | 0:43:09 | |
some of them should be freed in America. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:11 | |
If that worked, others could follow. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:13 | |
There was a lot of conversation about this population, | 0:43:15 | 0:43:19 | |
what the issues would be around their transfer | 0:43:19 | 0:43:21 | |
if we brought them into the States, | 0:43:21 | 0:43:23 | |
how would you monitor them, where would they go. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:26 | |
Now, these were certainly people | 0:43:26 | 0:43:28 | |
who, if you were in China, you might have been concerned about, you know, | 0:43:28 | 0:43:33 | |
the Chinese regime, but we didn't have any basis | 0:43:33 | 0:43:36 | |
to believe that they posed a threat necessarily to the United States. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:41 | |
But the CIA Director, | 0:43:41 | 0:43:42 | |
who had been a Congressman for almost two decades, was worried. | 0:43:42 | 0:43:46 | |
We had a bunch of staff and lawyers around the table | 0:43:47 | 0:43:50 | |
all saying how this could be done. | 0:43:50 | 0:43:52 | |
I kept saying, "Are you kidding?" | 0:43:52 | 0:43:55 | |
"Do you know what you're dealing with up on the Hill?" | 0:43:55 | 0:43:58 | |
Don't kid yourself that Congress | 0:43:58 | 0:44:00 | |
is suddenly going to put their arms around this | 0:44:00 | 0:44:02 | |
and say, "Oh, great, let's bring them here to America." | 0:44:02 | 0:44:06 | |
The Guantanamo team hoped they knew better. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:08 | |
The thought was that Congressman Frank Wolf of Northern Virginia, | 0:44:09 | 0:44:14 | |
who was very critical of Chinese human rights policy | 0:44:14 | 0:44:17 | |
might actually be supportive. | 0:44:17 | 0:44:19 | |
So in that burst of optimism and, in retrospect, naivety | 0:44:19 | 0:44:23 | |
the administration proceeded with a plan | 0:44:23 | 0:44:26 | |
to bring at least two of them into the United States. | 0:44:26 | 0:44:29 | |
Republican Frank Wolf represented Falls Church, Virginia, | 0:44:29 | 0:44:33 | |
where the two Uighurs were going to be released. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:37 | |
A member of my staff got a call | 0:44:37 | 0:44:39 | |
from a fairly high level person | 0:44:39 | 0:44:42 | |
in one of the agencies, | 0:44:42 | 0:44:44 | |
saying that the administration at the White House | 0:44:44 | 0:44:47 | |
had made a decision to move the Uighurs, | 0:44:47 | 0:44:51 | |
that they had actually leased an apartment | 0:44:51 | 0:44:54 | |
out in the Falls Church area | 0:44:54 | 0:44:57 | |
and an aircraft was ready and they were going to move them. | 0:44:57 | 0:45:01 | |
The chair recognises the gentleman from Virginia, Mr Wolf, | 0:45:01 | 0:45:04 | |
for five minutes. | 0:45:04 | 0:45:06 | |
Obama's promise to close Guantanamo | 0:45:06 | 0:45:08 | |
hung on the words Wolf was about to speak. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:11 | |
Do members realise who these people are? | 0:45:11 | 0:45:14 | |
There've been published reports that the Uighurs | 0:45:14 | 0:45:17 | |
were members of the Eastern Turkistan Islamic Movement, | 0:45:17 | 0:45:20 | |
a designated terrorist organisation affiliated with Al-Qaeda. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:25 | |
Fear of Al-Qaeda trumped everything. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:28 | |
Congress quickly voted to cut off funding | 0:45:28 | 0:45:30 | |
for relocating Guantanamo prisoners to the US. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:33 | |
I remember hearing one senator who said, you know, | 0:45:34 | 0:45:37 | |
"When I go to a Town Hall meeting | 0:45:37 | 0:45:40 | |
"and I say that we shouldn't give terrorists the same rights | 0:45:40 | 0:45:43 | |
"that we give to American citizens," | 0:45:43 | 0:45:45 | |
that's the biggest applause line I have | 0:45:45 | 0:45:47 | |
when I go to a Town Hall meeting. | 0:45:47 | 0:45:49 | |
I remember thinking at that point, | 0:45:49 | 0:45:50 | |
"Well, there it is." I mean, THAT'S the nature of the problem. | 0:45:50 | 0:45:55 | |
Listening to the recent debate, I've heard words that, frankly, | 0:45:56 | 0:45:59 | |
are calculated to scare people rather than educate them, | 0:45:59 | 0:46:03 | |
words that have more to do with politics | 0:46:03 | 0:46:06 | |
than protecting our country. | 0:46:06 | 0:46:08 | |
I think we were both disappointed, | 0:46:08 | 0:46:10 | |
and frankly angry at the political nature | 0:46:10 | 0:46:12 | |
in which... | 0:46:12 | 0:46:14 | |
our plans were thwarted. | 0:46:14 | 0:46:17 | |
Obama missed the one-year deadline for closing Guantanamo. | 0:46:17 | 0:46:21 | |
Seven years later, he still hadn't closed it. | 0:46:21 | 0:46:24 | |
He feels really passionately about it, really wanted to close | 0:46:26 | 0:46:29 | |
on his watch - it's just a very thorny one. It's really difficult. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:33 | |
Yeah, so it's... Clearly, he felt frustrated by the whole thing. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:37 | |
Six months into his Presidency, | 0:46:48 | 0:46:50 | |
Obama hosted the annual White House picnic for Congress. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:53 | |
The US had come out of recession. | 0:46:53 | 0:46:55 | |
The glamour of hope and change was back. | 0:46:55 | 0:46:59 | |
CHEERING | 0:46:59 | 0:47:00 | |
'The President was very excited about it, | 0:47:00 | 0:47:02 | |
'he was throwing a luau in tradition of his Hawaiian heritage' | 0:47:02 | 0:47:07 | |
and I remember, at the beginning, him saying, | 0:47:07 | 0:47:09 | |
"Am I going to take pictures of these people?" | 0:47:09 | 0:47:12 | |
And we said, "You are, but we're also going to use this | 0:47:12 | 0:47:15 | |
"as an opportunity to talk about the energy vote the next day." | 0:47:15 | 0:47:18 | |
During his campaign, | 0:47:18 | 0:47:20 | |
Obama had pledged to pass an energy bill to fight climate change. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:24 | |
It was about to be voted on in Congress. | 0:47:24 | 0:47:28 | |
Democrats from the coal-producing states | 0:47:28 | 0:47:30 | |
thought that if they voted for it they could lose their seats. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:33 | |
And so these members walk in and take their family photo | 0:47:34 | 0:47:39 | |
and then we'd escort the family out | 0:47:39 | 0:47:41 | |
and say, "Excuse me, member of Congress, | 0:47:41 | 0:47:43 | |
"the President would like to have one second alone with you." | 0:47:43 | 0:47:46 | |
And they're like, "Oh, of course!" | 0:47:46 | 0:47:48 | |
And we'd slam the door and there'd be Rahm and Phil Schiliro. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:51 | |
We'd be looking out that window and the picnic is going on outside | 0:47:51 | 0:47:55 | |
and the President is making the case to members on the fence. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:59 | |
And then I say, "Well, here's the science | 0:47:59 | 0:48:01 | |
"and we've got so much more to do, we've got so far to go." | 0:48:01 | 0:48:04 | |
These are people who had to make fundamental decisions | 0:48:04 | 0:48:08 | |
about political self-interest | 0:48:08 | 0:48:10 | |
versus the good of the country and the good of the planet. | 0:48:10 | 0:48:13 | |
By the time they walked out of that room, | 0:48:13 | 0:48:15 | |
they would look at me on the other side | 0:48:15 | 0:48:17 | |
and say, "That wasn't very much fun. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:20 | |
"That wasn't as much fun as it's supposed to be." | 0:48:20 | 0:48:22 | |
The next day, Obama's secretary whispered into his ear | 0:48:23 | 0:48:26 | |
that the House had passed the climate bill. | 0:48:26 | 0:48:28 | |
But, six months later, it was dying in the Senate. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:33 | |
He couldn't get the votes. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:35 | |
When this bill failed in the Senate | 0:48:35 | 0:48:38 | |
and everybody thought, "It's hopeless," | 0:48:38 | 0:48:41 | |
we in fact were able to bounce back | 0:48:41 | 0:48:43 | |
out of what looked like a disaster in Copenhagen. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:48 | |
The Copenhagen Climate Change Summit | 0:48:48 | 0:48:50 | |
gave Obama a chance to fight climate change on a global scale. | 0:48:50 | 0:48:55 | |
He would need the other great polluting nation, China, | 0:48:57 | 0:49:00 | |
to agree to cut its greenhouse gasses. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:02 | |
But the Chinese were afraid of the impact on their economy. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:08 | |
I met him at the airport and I said, | 0:49:13 | 0:49:15 | |
"We've been here for several days now | 0:49:15 | 0:49:18 | |
"and I'm sorry to say we don't have a final agreement for you to bless," | 0:49:18 | 0:49:23 | |
and his attitude was, | 0:49:23 | 0:49:25 | |
"Well, you know, I'm here. | 0:49:25 | 0:49:27 | |
"Let's roll up our sleeves and get to work." | 0:49:27 | 0:49:29 | |
No hotel, no stop, | 0:49:30 | 0:49:34 | |
to...get prepared, | 0:49:34 | 0:49:36 | |
drove right into this convention centre | 0:49:36 | 0:49:40 | |
and you slowly came to appreciate | 0:49:40 | 0:49:43 | |
that this was some sort of fake shopping mall. | 0:49:43 | 0:49:47 | |
There were mannequins, but there were no clothes for sale. | 0:49:48 | 0:49:52 | |
Obama met the Chinese Premier, Wen Jiabao, and argued his case. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:56 | |
The President said that this conference | 0:49:58 | 0:50:01 | |
could either reach some positive conclusions or not. | 0:50:01 | 0:50:06 | |
And if it did not reach positive conclusions, | 0:50:06 | 0:50:09 | |
the people who would be blamed | 0:50:09 | 0:50:10 | |
would be China and the US. | 0:50:10 | 0:50:12 | |
Back in the US, one of the complaints or one of the arguments | 0:50:12 | 0:50:17 | |
against the US ever doing anything in the global context is, | 0:50:17 | 0:50:21 | |
"Why should we do something until China does something?" | 0:50:21 | 0:50:24 | |
Wen Jiabao basically said, you know, | 0:50:24 | 0:50:27 | |
"Let's have our people get together | 0:50:27 | 0:50:29 | |
"and work on language on the communique." | 0:50:29 | 0:50:32 | |
Our people got together | 0:50:32 | 0:50:34 | |
and then there were three hours of head-butting. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:37 | |
The next meeting was even worse. | 0:50:37 | 0:50:41 | |
It was planned as a session with Obama, European leaders | 0:50:41 | 0:50:44 | |
and Premier Wen, but Wen sent a diplomat in his place. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:47 | |
Their words were recorded. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:07 | |
Extracts were leaked. | 0:51:07 | 0:51:09 | |
They never re-convened. | 0:51:29 | 0:51:31 | |
President Obama said to me, | 0:51:31 | 0:51:33 | |
"Should we speak to the Chinese once more? | 0:51:33 | 0:51:36 | |
"Should I speak to Wen Jiabao once more?" And I said, "Yes." | 0:51:36 | 0:51:40 | |
China's Premier agreed to another meeting, | 0:51:42 | 0:51:44 | |
but Obama's team had trouble nailing down the time. | 0:51:44 | 0:51:47 | |
We get a message that the Chinese have left, | 0:51:49 | 0:51:52 | |
they're in their cars on their way to the airport | 0:51:52 | 0:51:55 | |
and the President's sort of stunned. | 0:51:55 | 0:51:57 | |
I think, for many of us, there was a sense of, | 0:51:57 | 0:52:01 | |
"Oh, my God, this isn't going to work. This is going to fail." | 0:52:01 | 0:52:05 | |
45,000 people had come to Copenhagen. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:11 | |
But the one person Obama needed to make a deal had gone missing. | 0:52:11 | 0:52:15 | |
And the President's advance staff come into the room | 0:52:15 | 0:52:19 | |
and they're ashen faced | 0:52:19 | 0:52:22 | |
and they report that the Chinese are sitting upstairs, | 0:52:22 | 0:52:25 | |
that the Chinese are actually in a meeting | 0:52:25 | 0:52:27 | |
with Brazil, India and South Africa. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:30 | |
South Africa's President Zuma, Brazil's President Lula | 0:52:31 | 0:52:34 | |
and Premier Singh of India joined Wen Jiabao | 0:52:34 | 0:52:37 | |
to stop the climate deal. | 0:52:37 | 0:52:40 | |
And the President's response is, "Let's go. | 0:52:40 | 0:52:43 | |
"We had a meeting scheduled, they're here, let's go." | 0:52:43 | 0:52:47 | |
All of us involved thought that was kind of a cool idea, | 0:52:47 | 0:52:51 | |
unusual and not, how should I say, | 0:52:51 | 0:52:54 | |
normal protocol. | 0:52:54 | 0:52:57 | |
And so we all immediately jump up, the President, | 0:52:57 | 0:53:00 | |
Secretary Clinton. | 0:53:00 | 0:53:01 | |
We just continued down the hall, saying, | 0:53:01 | 0:53:03 | |
"President's coming through, President's coming through," | 0:53:03 | 0:53:06 | |
and people kind of looked at us aghast | 0:53:06 | 0:53:08 | |
and parted like Moses going through the Red Sea | 0:53:08 | 0:53:11 | |
as we went down the corridor. | 0:53:11 | 0:53:13 | |
The protocol security guy tried to stop us | 0:53:13 | 0:53:16 | |
and I basically elbowed him out of the way, blocked him. | 0:53:16 | 0:53:19 | |
We got to the door of the room | 0:53:19 | 0:53:21 | |
and there was a bunch of people blocking it. | 0:53:21 | 0:53:24 | |
Are you ready for me or do you guys need to talk some more? | 0:53:26 | 0:53:30 | |
It's up to you. | 0:53:30 | 0:53:31 | |
What do you think? | 0:53:34 | 0:53:35 | |
Premier, are you ready for me or do you want to wait? | 0:53:37 | 0:53:40 | |
President Obama looked at Wen Jiabao | 0:53:42 | 0:53:46 | |
and said, "Premier Wen, delighted to see you," | 0:53:46 | 0:53:50 | |
and Wen Jiabao forced a big smile. | 0:53:50 | 0:53:53 | |
Premier Wen signalled to President Obama, | 0:53:53 | 0:53:56 | |
"Oh, please have a seat next to President Lula here." | 0:53:56 | 0:53:59 | |
Obama had the Chinese Premier at a disadvantage and he did not relent. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:05 | |
The President said, "Well look, I have other things to do. | 0:54:05 | 0:54:08 | |
"I don't have to be here. If you all are not interested | 0:54:08 | 0:54:11 | |
"in having an agreement, fine, but I would think that it would be worth | 0:54:11 | 0:54:16 | |
"a little bit of your time," | 0:54:16 | 0:54:18 | |
and Wen Jiabao pretty clearly | 0:54:18 | 0:54:20 | |
signalled that he wanted to get the thing to a positive outcome. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:25 | |
At the end of the day, there was one final issue that had to be resolved. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:30 | |
And the President said, | 0:54:30 | 0:54:31 | |
"Will you confirm to me that China will list in the annexe | 0:54:31 | 0:54:35 | |
"the actions it intends to take?" | 0:54:35 | 0:54:37 | |
So we waited for the translation to go through | 0:54:37 | 0:54:41 | |
and Premier Wen said, "Yes," | 0:54:41 | 0:54:44 | |
and, at that point, | 0:54:44 | 0:54:46 | |
there was a sort of an explosion in the room on the Chinese side | 0:54:46 | 0:54:49 | |
of yelling in Chinese, of course, in Mandarin | 0:54:49 | 0:54:53 | |
and lots of back and forth among the Chinese officials | 0:54:53 | 0:54:56 | |
and we all looked at the interpreter with anticipation | 0:54:56 | 0:55:00 | |
and the interpreter said, "Internal discussion only." | 0:55:00 | 0:55:03 | |
And, at that point, | 0:55:03 | 0:55:04 | |
we knew we'd actually achieved something quite meaningful. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:07 | |
But Obama had had to agree to China's price - | 0:55:11 | 0:55:14 | |
there would be no binding agreements to cut emissions. | 0:55:14 | 0:55:18 | |
Although that was perceived as a failure given high expectations, | 0:55:18 | 0:55:23 | |
that actually planted the seed for subsequent success. | 0:55:23 | 0:55:27 | |
We have been able to forge for the first time | 0:55:27 | 0:55:31 | |
an international agreement about climate change. | 0:55:31 | 0:55:34 | |
One of the things that I've felt very strongly about | 0:55:37 | 0:55:40 | |
during the course of this year is that hard stuff | 0:55:40 | 0:55:44 | |
requires not paralysis, | 0:55:44 | 0:55:46 | |
but it requires going ahead | 0:55:46 | 0:55:48 | |
and making the best of the situation that you're in at this point | 0:55:48 | 0:55:52 | |
and continually trying to improve and make progress from there. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:55 | |
In America, by tradition, Presidents are judged | 0:56:07 | 0:56:10 | |
against what they achieve in their first 100 days. | 0:56:10 | 0:56:13 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States. | 0:56:15 | 0:56:19 | |
When Obama hit that mark, he had made the hard decisions | 0:56:19 | 0:56:22 | |
to rescue the global economy, | 0:56:22 | 0:56:24 | |
but not one of his big promises of change - | 0:56:24 | 0:56:27 | |
not health care, not education, | 0:56:27 | 0:56:29 | |
not Guantanamo had yet been delivered. | 0:56:29 | 0:56:31 | |
-Jeff Zeleny. -Thank you, Mr President. | 0:56:32 | 0:56:36 | |
During these first 100 days, what has surprised you | 0:56:36 | 0:56:38 | |
the most about this office, enchanted you the most | 0:56:38 | 0:56:42 | |
about serving in this in office, | 0:56:42 | 0:56:43 | |
humbled you the most and troubled you the most? | 0:56:43 | 0:56:46 | |
All right, let me write this down. | 0:56:46 | 0:56:48 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:56:48 | 0:56:49 | |
-What was the first one? -Surprised. -Surprised. | 0:56:49 | 0:56:52 | |
-Troubled. -Troubled. | 0:56:52 | 0:56:54 | |
-Enchanted. -Enchanted? Nice. -And humbled. | 0:56:54 | 0:56:56 | |
And what was the last one, humbled? | 0:56:58 | 0:57:00 | |
-Humbled. Thank you, sir. -All right. | 0:57:00 | 0:57:02 | |
OK. Erm... | 0:57:05 | 0:57:07 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:57:07 | 0:57:09 | |
Surprised... | 0:57:11 | 0:57:13 | |
I am surprised compared to where I started. | 0:57:15 | 0:57:19 | |
Obviously, I didn't anticipate the worst economic crisis | 0:57:19 | 0:57:24 | |
since the Great Depression. | 0:57:24 | 0:57:26 | |
'You know the typical President, I think, | 0:57:29 | 0:57:31 | |
'has two or three big problems. | 0:57:31 | 0:57:33 | |
'We've got seven or eight big problems. | 0:57:33 | 0:57:36 | |
'Enchanted? | 0:57:37 | 0:57:39 | |
'Enchanted. | 0:57:39 | 0:57:41 | |
'I will tell you that when I meet our servicemen and women, | 0:57:41 | 0:57:46 | |
"enchanted" is probably not the word I would use. | 0:57:46 | 0:57:49 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:57:49 | 0:57:51 | |
But I am so profoundly impressed and grateful. | 0:57:51 | 0:57:55 | |
Troubled? | 0:57:56 | 0:57:58 | |
I'd say less troubled, | 0:57:58 | 0:58:01 | |
but sobered by the fact that change in Washington comes slow. | 0:58:01 | 0:58:07 | |
Humbled by the fact that | 0:58:09 | 0:58:12 | |
the Presidency is extraordinarily powerful, | 0:58:12 | 0:58:16 | |
but I can't just press a button | 0:58:16 | 0:58:19 | |
and suddenly have the bankers | 0:58:19 | 0:58:21 | |
do exactly what I want | 0:58:21 | 0:58:25 | |
or, you know, turn on a switch | 0:58:25 | 0:58:27 | |
and suddenly Congress falls in line. | 0:58:27 | 0:58:31 | |
In the next programme, | 0:58:35 | 0:58:37 | |
how Obama battled to bring universal health care to his country. | 0:58:37 | 0:58:41 | |
My job was to advise him on the politics | 0:58:44 | 0:58:47 | |
and I knew that seven presidents had tried, seven presidents had failed. | 0:58:47 | 0:58:50 | |
This health care bill will ruin our country. | 0:58:50 | 0:58:55 | |
-THEY CHANT: -Kill the bill, kill the bill, kill the bill! | 0:58:55 | 0:59:00 |