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This programme contains some strong language | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
This is the secret world of Whitehall. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:07 | |
Decisions taken here behind closed doors affect all our daily lives. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
I'm telling the inside story of what has gone on over the years | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
in the great institutions at the very heart of government. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:17 | |
Tonight - how the hidden network of private offices operates. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:21 | |
Every government minister has a private office | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
run by a small team of high-flying civil servants. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
Their job is to manage the minister's professional life, | 0:00:26 | 0:00:30 | |
and to protect, guide and inform. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
They told me, we have one allegiance. You. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
So, we fight your battles for you. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
We guard your back. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:39 | |
What many people don't realise is just how intimate | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
the relationship between the private office and the minister is. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:46 | |
That intense loyalty to whoever is there, has to be seen to be believed. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:51 | |
But also working with the private office are shadowy figures | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
sometimes dubbed the people who live in the dark. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
They're the special advisers and unlike the neutral civil servants they're party political. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:04 | |
And there have been many bloody power struggles waged | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
within this most influential of Whitehall's secret networks. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:10 | |
A job in the private office can be the route to the top | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
of the civil service or politics if you're young and ambitious. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:35 | |
20 years ago the Chancellor Norman Lamont's special adviser was one David Cameron, | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
who was with him on Black Wednesday. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
Today has been an extremely difficult and turbulent day. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:47 | |
Lamont had to resign as Chancellor after Black Wednesday, | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
but David Cameron moved on to another top private office | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
as special adviser to the Home Secretary, Michael Howard. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:57 | |
There, his task was to advise Howard | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
on political pitfalls and image presentation. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:03 | |
Also doing the same thing as a special adviser in another ministry | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
and then in Number 10, was the young George Osborne. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:10 | |
He'd sometimes work hand in glove with Cameron. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:14 | |
And do you think you've got a killer blow? | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
Well, we certainly hope so. We're going to go and see. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
When New Labour came to power there were many more special advisers, | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
-known in Whitehall as Spads. -This is the study. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
Ed Balls was chief Spad to the new Chancellor, Gordon Brown. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
Another Spad learning his trade in the Chancellor's private office | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
was the youthfully bespectacled Ed Miliband. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
'And a new class of person has emerged.' | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
They're usually young graduates, often with no experience outside | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
politics, who have come straight from university. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:52 | |
Intellectually clever, enthusiastic, but I think that... | 0:02:52 | 0:02:57 | |
I don't think it's added to politics. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
30 years ago, a TV satire showed how the top civil servant in the private | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
office reacted to the intrusion of a political adviser. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
-Bernard Woolley, Principal Private Secretary. -How do you do? | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
-Mr Lloyd-Prichard, Assistant. -Minister. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
-This is my political adviser. -Yes, of course. Mr Weasel. -Weisel. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:21 | |
Yes, Minister was depicting with complete historical accuracy how | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
the real private office civil servants sought to marginalise the Spads. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:36 | |
-Where are we all going to? -Well, you're going to your office, Minister. -But what about Frank? | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
He's being taking care of, Minister. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
-Wait here, sir. -But this is the waiting room. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
-Precisely, sir. -But I'm Jim Hacker's special adviser. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
The Minister now has a whole department to advise him, sir. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
Look, he needs me! | 0:03:54 | 0:03:55 | |
Of course he does, but until the minister sends for you, would you be so good as to wait? | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
Although special advisers are now an accepted part of the Whitehall scene, | 0:04:02 | 0:04:07 | |
it's the civil servants who always have been and remain the beating heart of the private office network. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:13 | |
When Alan Johnson became Home Secretary two years ago, | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
he was taken to be introduced to the young civil servants | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
who made up his private office. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
-Go on, Richard, do the honours. -This is Natasha who does security and counter terrorism. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:26 | |
Charlotte, hello. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:27 | |
Gareth, how are you? | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
-And Jenny. -Nice to meet you. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
I think it was summed up by my very first private secretary. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
I said, I don't know where to start. What...do you do? | 0:04:41 | 0:04:46 | |
He said I run your private office and the purpose of your private office | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
is to be your corridor into the rest of government. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
You've got to understand, there are lots of civil servants | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
that will come in to see you whose allegiance will be elsewhere, | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
to their permanent secretary, to the Department, to Number 10. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:04 | |
He said, we've one allegiance - you. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
So, we fight your battles for you, we guard your back, | 0:05:07 | 0:05:12 | |
we convey what you want to the rest of the department and to the rest of Whitehall. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:17 | |
It was five minutes, but it summed it up. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
What sort of civil servants get chosen to work in the private office? | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
Bright people, high-fliers, people interested in politics and ministers | 0:05:24 | 0:05:29 | |
and the private office becomes the golden ladder as it were, | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
to the top, and if you look at some of the people that have | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
become Permanent Secretaries and indeed Cabinet Secretaries, many of them | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
have been Private Secretaries and principal private secretaries on the way up that ladder. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
Robin Butler was to become top mandarin after working long hours for three Prime Ministers | 0:05:41 | 0:05:48 | |
in the Number 10 private office. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
'I first went in to Number 10 in 1972.' | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
When I left, I found that | 0:05:54 | 0:05:55 | |
I'd never seen my children in their school clothes. | 0:05:55 | 0:06:00 | |
Because I left before they were dressed in the morning | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
and I never got home before they were asleep in bed in the evening. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
In the ministries across Whitehall, the private office normally has pride of place in the building. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:14 | |
'Doors opening.' | 0:06:14 | 0:06:15 | |
There's a team of people out there, sitting at desks, | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
who are my private office. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
'They're the people that work to you personally, and they really plug me | 0:06:20 | 0:06:24 | |
'into the rest of the system, and they handle absolutely all of the day-to-day activity. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:29 | |
'They also arrange my diary, moment by moment, day-by-day, | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
'and it goes beyond that. Because they get to know what you really want to do, | 0:06:32 | 0:06:37 | |
what your priorities are, get to know what the problems are out there, and help you do the job, | 0:06:37 | 0:06:44 | |
which is your job, as smoothly as they possibly can. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
The private office is absolutely vital to a minister. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:51 | |
They're the eyes and ears within the department, the two-way conduit, | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
the gatekeeper to that Minister. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
They're the first source of immediate policy advice or communication advice | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
before they then get the right officials in to advise. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
The other great thing about the private office is, | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
it's the shock absorber of the system. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
Rather than a secretary of state for X going around to biff secretary of state for Y, | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
because of some slight in the Cabinet Room, or some minute that's come through | 0:07:14 | 0:07:19 | |
which is really designed to irritate, or subvert, | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
the private office network has a chat amongst itself to try and soothe things. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:27 | |
The private office goes back to the very first Prime Minister, | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
Robert Walpole in the eighteenth century. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
His private secretary was the son of the earl of Dartmouth. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
Over the following two centuries, as ministries became more powerful | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
and government more involved in raising and spending public money, | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
the private office network developed across Whitehall. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
It was given a huge boost by Lloyd George when he became Prime Minister | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
in the middle of the first world war. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
He decided on a total reorganisation of central government... | 0:07:58 | 0:08:02 | |
a powerful new Number 10 private office was to be the command and control centre of Whitehall. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:07 | |
And for the first time a record would be make of cabinet decisions. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:12 | |
The national shorthand champion became Lloyd George's Private Secretary. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:17 | |
'I was ushered into the Cabinet Room, | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
'and there, I sat with the Cabinet Ministers around me, and I took shorthand notes.' | 0:08:22 | 0:08:27 | |
It was the first time that any shorthand writer had ever | 0:08:27 | 0:08:32 | |
been in that Cabinet Room to take a Cabinet discussion. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:37 | |
And then, I typed it out on my typewriter. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:42 | |
Starting with Sylvester's typewriter, Lloyd George made | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
Number 10 the prototype for a private office in every Whitehall ministry. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:50 | |
He'd recruited so many new staff to his private office | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
that they'd be housed in temporary huts in the Number 10 garden | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
that became known as Lloyd George's garden suburb. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:02 | |
Over the years, the power of the private offices | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
has grown in every ministry. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
They provide an unrivalled confidential network | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
for the exchange of inside information and Whitehall gossip. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
And a job in the private office is the aim for every civil service high flyer in Whitehall | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
that has traditionally been a hierarchical place. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
REPORTER: 'The pecking order in Whitehall is still very important. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
'The head of the department gets the big desk, a big chair, a thick carpet | 0:09:36 | 0:09:40 | |
'and a very high-class secretary. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
'Note also that he has an individual coat stand and an old master on the wall. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:49 | |
'His number two, however, gets a rather more functional map, | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
'a smaller table and, as you will note behind his head, a mere peg on the wall for his coat. | 0:09:54 | 0:10:00 | |
'But he has, at least, an individual if rather austere light, not just a supermarket strip light | 0:10:00 | 0:10:06 | |
'like these two poor chaps who even have to share a room. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
'But I bet they both took double firsts and will both end up as ambassadors.' | 0:10:10 | 0:10:16 | |
Every ambitious young civil servant feels the pull of the private office. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
Private office, I think this is probably one of the most interesting | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
aspects of a civil servant's career. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
It means really acting as the link between the minister on the one hand | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
and literally everybody else on the other. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
Members of parliament, other ministers. Members of the public. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:38 | |
Local authorities, pressure groups, the lot. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
-A sort of protector of the minister. -Yes, not always an appreciated protector, | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
but nevertheless, a protector. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
It meant, of course, a constant runaround, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
but I was allowed half a day off to go and get married. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:54 | |
And strictly on the works side, | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
if you enjoy politics and seeing how they work and how the whole machine | 0:10:56 | 0:11:01 | |
of government works, as I do, then I think you'll find it fascinating. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:06 | |
What they require, is experience. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
Because they're all being identified as young, high-flying civil servants, | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
expected to go a long way in their civil service careers and they seek | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
having a tremendous close-up view of how government works. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
Wherever ministers go, they like to be in constant touch with their private office. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
Eric Varley, a Labour cabinet minister in the mid 70s, | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
would communicate using state of the art technology. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
Alison, I wonder if all of the briefing is complete for Cabinet this morning? | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
I wonder if I could have a meeting with officials before that, over? | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
There's a possibility there might be a PMQ, which we'll keep in touch | 0:11:41 | 0:11:46 | |
with parliamentary branch about. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
But I think also, the Prime Minister has questions this afternoon and he may get asked about it. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:54 | |
The private office includes the diary secretary, a number of policy specialists | 0:11:54 | 0:11:59 | |
and it's headed by the principal private secretary | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
who's the main point of contact for the minister. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
I'm probably closer to him than any other civil servant in the department. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:10 | |
I see everything he does, and I attend all his meetings. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
I try to see things through his eyes. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
I rather think that the role of the private office, so far as the civil | 0:12:16 | 0:12:21 | |
service is concerned, is to wrap the secretary of state | 0:12:21 | 0:12:27 | |
or the minister in cotton wool, keep tabs on him, | 0:12:27 | 0:12:32 | |
to make sure that he's certainly informed, but also, | 0:12:32 | 0:12:37 | |
to perhaps insulate him from a degree of reality from the outside world. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:43 | |
But the private office's precise method of insulation can vary | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
according to the minister's status, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
as one ambitious politician discovered in 1970. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
I arrived in this room, a very large room, | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
completely empty of all paperwork. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
And I assumed somebody would tell me sooner or later | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
what I was supposed to do. No-one did. And I sat there. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
They brought the coffee, and it was not for half-an-hour or so, | 0:13:07 | 0:13:11 | |
and I read the papers - there were a lot of papers. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
Every national newspaper was available in my office for me to read. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
It's only about an hour-and-a-half later, that I really came to grips | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
with the problem that I had to be a self-starter. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
I had to make it clear what I wanted to do, | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
and the way I saw my job evolving. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
There was no induction course, no training, no guidelines. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
In many ways, that's one of the most critical moments of a minister's career, whether he ever survives | 0:13:29 | 0:13:35 | |
that moment, when if he doesn't emerge and take a command of the situation, | 0:13:35 | 0:13:40 | |
he'll simply become the victim of the mountain of paperwork that will flow across his desk. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
Basically, you were a bag-carrier, you were expected to attend minutes, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:48 | |
meetings with your secretary of state and to listen, | 0:13:48 | 0:13:52 | |
perhaps be asked for your opinion, but you had no real power and responsibility. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:58 | |
You had a private office which reflected that, | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
your private secretary was being trained as a civil servant in the experience of ministerial life. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:08 | |
Nearly 40 years on, Gordon Brown made the businessman Digby Jones a minister. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:13 | |
The Whitehall outsider was surprised by his private office. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:17 | |
I very quickly put a piece of paper on my desk and I wrote | 0:14:17 | 0:14:22 | |
on it as best I could, to put a word around the sound... | 0:14:22 | 0:14:28 | |
HE INHALES | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
So, there were lots of letters and exclamation marks, and I can remember | 0:14:30 | 0:14:36 | |
my private secretary came in and said, what's that, Minister? | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
I said, that's the most common sound I hear in this office. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:43 | |
And it's about usually followed by the words, "Very brave, Minister." | 0:14:43 | 0:14:48 | |
Or, "I wouldn't do that, Minister." | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
And it's this... | 0:14:51 | 0:14:52 | |
HE INHALES | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
..because they're brought up to be risk-averse. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:59 | |
Their job in the private office is to serve their nation | 0:14:59 | 0:15:04 | |
through the Minister, to keep the Minister out of trouble | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
and to keep the minister delivering on agreed policy. That's their job. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:14 | |
But another key job of the private office is to scan the horizon and spot unexpected troubles | 0:15:16 | 0:15:22 | |
especially when a minister is sent to a newly created department. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
'My principal private secretary rang me up and said,' | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
"You'll be getting your first day briefing and all of that." | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
He said, "Has the Prime Minister mentioned to you about changing the name of the Department?" | 0:15:35 | 0:15:39 | |
I said, yes, he did say something about productivity and science. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
He said, "Could I just go through with you what the Department is due to be called? | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
"It's due to be called the Department of Productivity, Energy - | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
"which is usually described as EN, | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
"Industry and Science." | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
He said, "You'll be the Secretary of State for PENIS." | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
I said, oh, gosh, that doesn't sound very good. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
So, I said, what can we do about this? | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
'They had unscrewed Department of Trade and Industry signs from outside Victoria Street. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:08 | |
'Fortunately, they hadn't put the new name up yet. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
'So I kind of stopped any further work on it before I went to see the Prime Minister.' | 0:16:11 | 0:16:15 | |
And I said, do you mind if I raise something with you, Prime Minister? The name of the Department? | 0:16:15 | 0:16:20 | |
He said, what's the problem? So I explained it to him. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
I said, the Department for PENIS, I'd be the secretary of state for PENIS. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
He said, well, let's change it back. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
And all these people sat around, he says, whose idea was this? | 0:16:29 | 0:16:34 | |
Talk about, success has many parents and failure is an orphan. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
And no-one said anything. He said, well, let's just change it back to the Department of Trade and Industry. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:43 | |
So I came out of that meeting with my first great victory. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
But, really, because I was alerted to it very early on by my principal private secretary. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:53 | |
When David Blunkett was made Education Secretary in 1997, | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
he was the first blind Cabinet Minister. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
And his Principal Private Secretary Alun Evans had worked out in advance | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
how to make Blunkett's ministerial life easier. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
We did have a bit of a glitch, because I'd ordered through | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
my officials, a state-of-the-art Braille machine which converted | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
word documents into Braille and David Blunkett didn't often use Braille, | 0:17:16 | 0:17:21 | |
but he did for formal set pieces like statements to Parliament | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
or briefings to the Prime Minister. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
And the first briefing to the Prime Minister we duly produced in Braille in the first week, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:31 | |
had we handed it to him with about five minutes to go before the meeting, as often happens | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
last-minute, and he grabbed it and went into Number 10. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
What we hadn't realised was that the Braille machine was made in Sweden | 0:17:38 | 0:17:42 | |
and had a switch on the back of the machine which switched from English to Swedish Braille, | 0:17:42 | 0:17:47 | |
and we'd handed him a word-perfect copy of Swedish Braille briefing on education policy. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:52 | |
He winged it and did it very well. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
It must have been something of a surprise for him as he was trying to... | 0:17:55 | 0:18:00 | |
Well, it was, he found a bit of hurdy-gurdy smorgasbord on the text in front of him. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:04 | |
Peter Mandelson had a succession of private offices across Whitehall, | 0:18:09 | 0:18:14 | |
before ending up as first Secretary of State at the department of business innovation and skills. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:19 | |
The private office and the private secretaries play | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
an absolutely crucial, seminal, professional, | 0:18:25 | 0:18:30 | |
I mean, really brilliant role in this... | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
It's a joy to work with them and to see that sort of dedication | 0:18:37 | 0:18:43 | |
and working around the clock, and that intense loyalty to | 0:18:43 | 0:18:47 | |
whoever is there, you know, it's to be seen to be believed. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
In his private office, Mandelson goes through his diary. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:54 | |
Marie. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:55 | |
-I'm going to Nottingham tomorrow, yes. -Yes. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
There's a reception tomorrow night. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
Oh. How annoying. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:09 | |
Is there anything you wanted to do on Friday, specifically? | 0:19:16 | 0:19:21 | |
I want it to be my time. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
My thinking time. My thinking time. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
My world. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
The key coupling in the private office was described by | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
Benjamin Disraeli, the Victorian Chancellor and Prime Minister, a century and a half ago. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
He said, "Relations between the Minister and his private secretary | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
"are, or should be, among the finest that can subsist between | 0:19:40 | 0:19:44 | |
"two individuals, except for the married state". | 0:19:44 | 0:19:48 | |
What many people don't realise is just how intimate | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
the relationship between the Private Office and their minister is. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:54 | |
You do form a very close relationship | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
with your private secretary. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
The foreign secretary Douglas Hurd and his principal private secretary John Sawers | 0:19:58 | 0:20:03 | |
would go for early morning swims at international conferences. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
Sawers is now head of MI6. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
I used to get my private secretary into a sort of discipline, | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
getting up early for a swim. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
Sometimes it was extremely cold, | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
but it sharpens up your body and mind. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:19 | |
The private office is very beguiling. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:29 | |
It is a very hot-house environment. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
You live on very close terms | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
with your minister, your Secretary Of State | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
and that's the most important person in your life. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
And some civil servants, when they enter into private office, | 0:20:40 | 0:20:44 | |
can become too close to the minister. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
A sensational example of a Private Office relationship too close | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
happened in the '60s. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
John Vassall was a private secretary to the Navy Minister. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
He was revealed as a KGB spy | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
who'd been entrapped by the Soviet Communists in a homosexual sting. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:03 | |
His minister at the Admiralty was Tam Galbraith, | 0:21:03 | 0:21:07 | |
an aristocratic Tory. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
The revelation that the minister had sent his private secretary letters | 0:21:09 | 0:21:14 | |
beginning, "My Dear Vassall..." caused a scandal. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
Amid lurid rumours, Galbraith resigned | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
saying, "My long accustomed manner of dealing with officials | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
"has become an embarrassment." | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
Vassall was jailed for ten years for spying for the Russians, | 0:21:26 | 0:21:31 | |
while Galbraith was exonerated by an official enquiry. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:35 | |
Alan Clark was one of Mrs Thatcher's ministers. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
A renowned womaniser, | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
Clark revealed in his diaries, which were later dramatised, | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
how he lusted after | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
his principal private secretary. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
"Jenny Easterbrook - sexuality tightly-controlled. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
"She makes plain her feelings on several accounts | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
"without expressing them." | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
Do you take dictation? | 0:22:08 | 0:22:09 | |
-No, minister. -Shorthand? | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
I am an official, not a typist. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
The Enterprise Allowance Scheme, Job Release Scheme, | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
Community Scheme. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:19 | |
They will expect you to have at least some knowledge of those, | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
even if you can't fully get to grips with them. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
What is wrong with two human beings of the opposite sex | 0:22:29 | 0:22:35 | |
feeling attracted to each other? | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
I don't see how that can be scandalous. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
For some reason, all the attention seems to be on her. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:45 | |
Sequins, that's what you need! | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
As Secretary Of State for Wales, | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
William Hague fared better than Alan Clark. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
He and Ffion Jenkins his Private Office secretary | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
fell in love and they got married. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
The one thing the private office does, | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
and I think does brilliantly actually, is it's loyal. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:10 | |
You do know they will come in and they'll close the door | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
and tell you where they think this wasn't your finest moment, | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
or indeed, "Let's equip you for what's hopefully a finer moment tomorrow." | 0:23:17 | 0:23:22 | |
But they are on your side | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
and they see their job as serving their country through this minister. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
The Private Office is a vital part | 0:23:27 | 0:23:31 | |
of the ability of a minister to run his or her department | 0:23:31 | 0:23:36 | |
and to carry out policy. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:38 | |
Essential to it is a relationship of trust | 0:23:38 | 0:23:42 | |
and what I think is so remarkable | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
is that in all the years I have been in politics, | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
I can think of no instance at all | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
of a private secretary breaching that trust | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
by telling stories about his minister or her minister | 0:23:53 | 0:23:57 | |
to the newspapers, | 0:23:57 | 0:23:58 | |
to television or the media. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
If they do, it's so wonderfully private | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
that nobody ever discovers. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
One remarkable episode that was kept completely secret by the Number Ten Private Office | 0:24:05 | 0:24:10 | |
happened in the summer of 1953. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:14 | |
It involved the Prime Minister Winston Churchill. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
He suffered a severe stroke and was no longer able to function. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:22 | |
Churchill's Private Office decided | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
that the outside world must be kept in the dark | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
and conspired with the powerful press barons. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:32 | |
The Tory MP Bill Deedes, | 0:24:32 | 0:24:33 | |
who was soon to become a Churchill minister, | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
worked closely with the proprietor of The Daily Telegraph. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
There was... | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
I don't use the word - there was an agreement, | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
not a conspiracy, to keep it quiet. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:49 | |
And it worked. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
Churchill's Private Office that was headed by Sir Jock Colville, | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
who'd been with him during the war, | 0:24:55 | 0:24:56 | |
reached a deal to keep news of Churchill's condition out of the press. | 0:24:56 | 0:25:00 | |
And Colville along with Christopher Soames, Churchill's son-in-law, | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
ran the country. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:05 | |
While the real Prime Minister was kept incommunicado and out of public sight, | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
Colville and Soames were Churchill impersonators. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:13 | |
Christopher Soames knew how to get the signature right. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:18 | |
He could sign, "Winston Churchill." | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
So after Churchill had his stroke, Soames was signing... | 0:25:21 | 0:25:26 | |
I think there was a bit of that, yes. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
You know this? | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
I suppose I do, yes. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
But I don't think, really, | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
that the covering up of his stroke was deceitful. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:45 | |
I don't think it was a black mark on government. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:50 | |
It was quite important | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
to maintain an appearance of normality. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:59 | |
Anyway, we managed to do it. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
All the private offices in the ministries of Whitehall | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
are repositories of secrets held by civil servants | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
about their political masters. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
They have to know every bit of the emotional life, pretty well, | 0:26:11 | 0:26:15 | |
of the minister they are serving. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
If they have mistresses, they have to know about them | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
in case they have to get them all times of night and day. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
And they have to have no secrets from each other | 0:26:23 | 0:26:25 | |
if it's going to work properly. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
One of the ways that the Private Office civil servants discover everything they can, | 0:26:29 | 0:26:34 | |
happens every time a minister makes phone call. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
The way it worked with the Tory minister Peter Walker in the '70s | 0:26:40 | 0:26:44 | |
is the way it's still done in Private Office today. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:46 | |
Everything a minister says | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
is monitored by a private secretary listening in on extension outside. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:52 | |
I remember when I first stepped into my Private Office | 0:26:52 | 0:26:56 | |
I was horrified to note that when I picked up the phone, | 0:26:56 | 0:27:00 | |
another phone was being picked up at the instantaneous moment. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:04 | |
After about ten minutes of this, | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
I remember barging into the secretary's office, next door to mine | 0:27:07 | 0:27:12 | |
and saying, "What the hell do you think you're doing? | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
"Why are you listening to my conversations? | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
"No, you're not entitled to do that, I don't want any more of it." | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
They then patiently explain to me | 0:27:20 | 0:27:22 | |
that every conversation conducted by a minister | 0:27:22 | 0:27:26 | |
is listened to by his or her civil servant. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
Did that come as a surprise to you? | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
That someone listens in? It did. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
And I didn't realise at first, | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
so you're having a conversation and Simon would come in | 0:27:37 | 0:27:41 | |
and I would start explaining, "I've had a phone call from Number Ten." | 0:27:41 | 0:27:45 | |
And he'd say, "Yes, I know, I was listening." | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
"Oh." It struck me as rather rude. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:52 | |
Of course, it's really important. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
Most ministers except that for everything | 0:27:54 | 0:27:58 | |
apart from entirely private conversations, | 0:27:58 | 0:28:00 | |
an official will listen in to a conversation. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:04 | |
That's quite important and useful | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
because if you're not listening in, | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 | |
no doubt somebody will be listening in at the other end | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
and you'll have a phone call where the other Private Office says, "You're minister said X." | 0:28:12 | 0:28:16 | |
If you haven't been listening, how do you know he said X rather than Y? | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
If I am having a phone call with a senior colleague, | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
another member of the Cabinet, | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
Lord knows how many people are listening, | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
probably four or five by the time you finish. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
The person responsible for that area of policy, | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
someone from my private office, my colleagues. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
And it's a way of not having to get into the car | 0:28:36 | 0:28:41 | |
and have a recorded meeting. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:43 | |
That's very important, | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
not least because it stops you arguing a week later | 0:28:45 | 0:28:47 | |
about what you did agree on | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
and also means that somebody automatically actions it. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:53 | |
There's always at least one person, sometimes a whole team, | 0:28:53 | 0:28:57 | |
it's a bloody spectator sport, making a phone call. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
When it's really difficult, you know, | 0:29:00 | 0:29:03 | |
if it's an issue about | 0:29:03 | 0:29:04 | |
the spending review and you are negotiating with the Treasury | 0:29:04 | 0:29:08 | |
or a phone call with the Prime Minister. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
You have lots of people, | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
everyone listening in at both ends of the phone call. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
The Number Ten Private Office | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
is the nerve centre of Whitehall, | 0:29:20 | 0:29:22 | |
monitoring all calls and seeking to draw the positives | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
from face to face meetings that the PM holds. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:29 | |
When I was Health Secretary, | 0:29:29 | 0:29:30 | |
I had the most frightful rows with Margaret Thatcher. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
I used to have one-to-ones with her in Downing Street. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:37 | |
They were the most unbelievable, lively rows, | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
both of us quite liked having lively political debate | 0:29:40 | 0:29:42 | |
but she could be pretty forceful. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:44 | |
And the private secretary from her office used to keep a minute | 0:29:44 | 0:29:49 | |
and decide what it was we'd agreed on | 0:29:49 | 0:29:50 | |
when you couldn't have got the two of us to agree on what we had agreed on. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:54 | |
My Private Office used to ring him up before I got back, he told me later, | 0:29:54 | 0:30:00 | |
and he would mark it on the Richter scale for liveliness | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
so they'd know what I would be like when I came in | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
and how lively this one had been. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:08 | |
A prime task for the civil servants in the Private Office network | 0:30:08 | 0:30:12 | |
across Whitehall is to deal with the vast flow of paperwork that comes in | 0:30:12 | 0:30:17 | |
requiring answers every day. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:19 | |
The Private Office has to go through it | 0:30:19 | 0:30:21 | |
and decide what they can deal with themselves | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
and what they should send up to the minister, | 0:30:24 | 0:30:26 | |
along with their advice and recommendations for action. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:31 | |
The Private Office have a very, very important sifting role. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:36 | |
Half the stuff the department wants me to see | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
is impossible for one man to see. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:40 | |
They have to decide on priority, have to decide on urgency, | 0:30:40 | 0:30:44 | |
and what the Secretary of State will either want to see or needs to see, | 0:30:44 | 0:30:49 | |
what he needn't see and what can just be farmed off. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:51 | |
A huge amount of information now comes into the Private Office - | 0:30:54 | 0:31:00 | |
far more than ever before. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:02 | |
And that puts a great burden and responsibility | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
on the people who do the sifting | 0:31:05 | 0:31:07 | |
because the Foreign Secretary still only has 24 hours in the day, | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
he still needs to sleep. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:12 | |
And therefore the people outside his office, the sifters, | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
who decide what he's going to see | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
are much more important than they used to be | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
because the volume of stuff arriving in that office is so huge. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:26 | |
You have to concentrate, like so many things, | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
on what is urgent and important | 0:31:29 | 0:31:30 | |
and what doesn't matter so much. It's probably got harder | 0:31:30 | 0:31:34 | |
with the number of e-mails coming in, | 0:31:34 | 0:31:36 | |
because often people now will copy in all ministers as an insurance policy | 0:31:36 | 0:31:40 | |
to say you have seen it. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:42 | |
The job of filtering of the Private Secretary | 0:31:42 | 0:31:44 | |
and the Private Office becomes even more important. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
You never know what they have sifted | 0:31:47 | 0:31:49 | |
because you only see what comes to you. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
But I never remember being let down by my Private Office, | 0:31:51 | 0:31:55 | |
my assumption is they did a first class job. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:59 | |
They know what you need to see | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
and things being copied that aren't relevant to you or don't affect you, | 0:32:02 | 0:32:06 | |
they save you the burden of sifting yourself. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
If you could complete the first four by Saturday, | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
your driver could collect them and deliver the other two. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
The famous red box is the focal point of the Private Office. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:21 | |
Every day Private Secretaries will pack at least one red box | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
full of important papers for the minister to deal with overnight. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:29 | |
The different Private Offices, like this one in the foreign office, | 0:32:30 | 0:32:34 | |
develop their own techniques to encourage ministers | 0:32:34 | 0:32:38 | |
to finish their boxes. They pack the papers in a special order, | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
with the simplest at the bottom. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
We put in the signature folders first, mostly letters to other MPs | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
and to constituents which he has got to sign. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
They are supposed to be the easiest. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
And then things that are for information - | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
it might be some intelligence, | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
it might be letters from influential people | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
and then submissions, usually recommending action, or notes from us | 0:33:01 | 0:33:05 | |
saying, "We have a problem on this. What do you want to do about it?" | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
You open it up. On the very top will be the diary. Bright orange. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:12 | |
Underneath would be briefs for every meeting he has the next day. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
One person from one of your Private Offices | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
told us that to encourage you to do your papers | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
they would put in a chocolate bar some way into the box | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
so you would work through it. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:29 | |
That's not true! | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
I'm not greatly into chocolate bars. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
No, no, he or she has got the wrong minister. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:39 | |
They wouldn't get me with a chocolate bar. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
Almost all women are accessory-conscientious, | 0:33:42 | 0:33:44 | |
characteristic of the gender. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:46 | |
Mrs Thatcher was too, | 0:33:46 | 0:33:48 | |
and so she and I would take home four red boxes a night | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
and rely on the fact we were... | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
able to sleep for less time than most men require | 0:33:54 | 0:33:58 | |
to get through these blasted boxes, hour after hour of them. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:03 | |
I had an arrangement with my Private Secretary - | 0:34:03 | 0:34:05 | |
he would signal in the box when I had reached the stage | 0:34:05 | 0:34:09 | |
that I didn't need to go any further. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
There was a submission on a European Standard bus stop | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
which had come out of some crackpot conference | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
and what it meant was, everything above that, | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
as I worked through my box, that had to be done, | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
"Best done tonight if you can." | 0:34:24 | 0:34:25 | |
When I reached the European bus stop, firstly that was a little signal, | 0:34:25 | 0:34:30 | |
"Below this if you have got time. Below this is not a priority." | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
Some ministers do like... | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
taking the box home and working on it by themselves overnight. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:39 | |
Other ministers will take a box home | 0:34:39 | 0:34:41 | |
and it will come back in the morning. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:43 | |
I remember Ken Clarke would do that and sometimes say, | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
"I went to Ronnie Scott's last night." | 0:34:46 | 0:34:48 | |
The box remains undone in the morning. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:50 | |
What did you think of that? | 0:34:50 | 0:34:52 | |
It's a good idea to go out until 3am to listen to jazz at Ronnie Scott's, | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
and, on the whole, | 0:34:56 | 0:34:57 | |
Ken Clarke would catch up with the box during the day. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
JAZZ MUSIC PLAYS | 0:35:00 | 0:35:02 | |
How long are you staying tonight? | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
Half eight Ministry of Defence tomorrow. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:11 | |
You're there later on, I think. One o'clock? | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
I was younger then. I haven't been to Ronnie's | 0:35:14 | 0:35:16 | |
for years, I'm far too old now. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:18 | |
But I used to go and when I first started I would go to Ronnie's | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
and get back home three in the morning | 0:35:21 | 0:35:23 | |
and then do the boxes still going the next day, usually. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:29 | |
I can't remember this occasion. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:31 | |
There's no point, if you're dropping asleep over a box | 0:35:31 | 0:35:35 | |
there is no point in do because you will make a frightful mess | 0:35:35 | 0:35:39 | |
of whatever you're reading and you will not remember it | 0:35:39 | 0:35:41 | |
or agree things you shouldn't. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
Inside Number 10 the top box of all is packed | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
on the round table in the principal private secretary's office. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
It's then taken to the Prime Minister. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:54 | |
One of Margaret Thatcher's private secretaries describes | 0:35:57 | 0:35:59 | |
how the Private Office seeks to help the Prime Minister reach decisions | 0:35:59 | 0:36:04 | |
on the contents of the red box. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:06 | |
What we try to do would on the top of any pile of | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
papers however complicated to strip it to its essentials. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:14 | |
Sometimes you could do it in one word. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:15 | |
"Prime Minister the Foreign Secretary says we should | 0:36:15 | 0:36:17 | |
"go to war with Iran, agree, question mark." | 0:36:17 | 0:36:21 | |
And she can write yes or no. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
Sometimes you have to build that up into a fuller response. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:27 | |
If he has put in a lot of thought and it comes out | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
with no written with an exclamation mark you can't write back | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
saying the Prime Minister has read the Chancellor's paper and says no. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
You have to draw on your knowledge of the Prime Minister's mind and perhaps | 0:36:37 | 0:36:42 | |
enlarge that into a paragraph of | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
carefully considered views, which are contrary to those of the Chancellor | 0:36:44 | 0:36:47 | |
of Exchequer leading to a balanced conclusion. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:50 | |
But that is part of the art and craft of the trade of private secretary. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
Andrew Turnbull was Principal Private Secretary in the Number Ten | 0:36:53 | 0:36:58 | |
private office for many years and saw how different Prime Ministers | 0:36:58 | 0:37:02 | |
dealt with their red boxes. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
Mrs Thatcher was legendary in doing the box. Many a time, | 0:37:05 | 0:37:10 | |
half past nine, ten o'clock | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
you go up to the flat in the evening, | 0:37:13 | 0:37:15 | |
ring the bell, drop the box in, run off and get home. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:20 | |
And come back, 8.30am the next morning and it's nearly all been read | 0:37:20 | 0:37:26 | |
and what's more nearly all been dispatched in | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
the sense of you have an answer. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:31 | |
John Major was also very diligent. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
I would say he was as diligent and put in the work, | 0:37:34 | 0:37:38 | |
didn't have quite a high score on the decide factor. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:42 | |
You had a few more please refers but he was a believer in the daily box. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:48 | |
Tony Blair was much more, "I will only deal with the things that | 0:37:48 | 0:37:52 | |
"are important and deal with it at the weekend." | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
I wasn't | 0:37:55 | 0:37:57 | |
fortunately in Number 10 when | 0:37:57 | 0:38:01 | |
Gordon was | 0:38:01 | 0:38:03 | |
Prime Minister but he was also a slow decider. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:09 | |
One Number Ten official says that Gordon Brown would never finish | 0:38:10 | 0:38:14 | |
his paperwork. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:16 | |
And as well as the red boxes the Prime Minister alone | 0:38:16 | 0:38:19 | |
gets another rather special box. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
We had a separate box, which was of a different colour from the main box | 0:38:22 | 0:38:27 | |
for particularly sensitive papers, which only the Prime Minister | 0:38:27 | 0:38:33 | |
-and principal private secretary had access to. -What colour was that box? | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
It was blue with a red stripe and it was known as old stripey. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
And this had a secret intelligence files and the spy stuff? | 0:38:42 | 0:38:45 | |
And highly confidential stuff, not just intelligence but other | 0:38:45 | 0:38:49 | |
highly confidential and personal stuff, | 0:38:49 | 0:38:53 | |
which the principal private secretary was dealing with | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
directly with the Prime Minister. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:57 | |
And was old stripey the one | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
the Prime Minister would turn to first as far as you know? | 0:39:00 | 0:39:04 | |
Quite often it was because it tended to have | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
the sort of juicy stuff in it. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
In the Number Ten private office there would be regular battles | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
over the red boxes between the civil servants and the political advisers. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:21 | |
There used to be the most unseemly competition | 0:39:21 | 0:39:23 | |
on Friday evening to get the last word onto the various papers | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
going into the Prime Minister's weekend box, under John Major or | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
under Mrs Thatcher. The Political Secretary, who would be a political | 0:39:29 | 0:39:33 | |
appointee, and the head of the Policy Unit, who was a political appointee, | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
would stay late and try and write a memo to put right on top of the | 0:39:36 | 0:39:39 | |
pile of papers saying, really, you should do this. Because they knew | 0:39:39 | 0:39:41 | |
that's what would get read first at least before all the rest was read. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:45 | |
But the Cabinet Secretary and Principal Private Secretary, | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
the two civil servants, were much cannier and would always outwait them | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
on a Friday evening to stick the very last word on top of their last words. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:54 | |
So there was no-one to arbitrate | 0:39:54 | 0:39:55 | |
those kind of disputes, and that's what we thought we needed. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:58 | |
Alastair Campbell and Jonathan Powell were New Labour's top two | 0:39:58 | 0:40:02 | |
special advisers, with the power to give orders to civil servants. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:06 | |
The Super Spads spawned a new satire. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
-Malcolm, do you know...? -Obviously, he knows. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:11 | |
No, he doesn't know... | 0:40:11 | 0:40:13 | |
There has been a massive, irretrievable data loss. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:17 | |
The last seven months' worth of new immigrant details have gone, | 0:40:17 | 0:40:22 | |
apparently, lost in the computer. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:24 | |
So, what is your great strategy for dealing with this? | 0:40:32 | 0:40:36 | |
Come on, I mean, I'm fuckin' all ears, I'm fuckin' Andrew Marr here! | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
Tony Blair was determined greatly | 0:40:41 | 0:40:43 | |
to strengthen the political side of the Number Ten Private Office. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:47 | |
He brought in a record number of 30 special advisers. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
He wanted to ensure that ministers and their | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
Private Offices across Whitehall danced to Number Ten's tune. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:59 | |
Bloody Number Ten! | 0:40:59 | 0:41:00 | |
My special adviser on the | 0:41:00 | 0:41:02 | |
communications side, Chris Norton, got a phone call from Number Ten, | 0:41:02 | 0:41:08 | |
irate because they'd heard I was doing a 8.10 interview on | 0:41:08 | 0:41:12 | |
the Today programme, and there was all hell to pay. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
What is he doing on there, | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
why's he doing it, what's the subject? | 0:41:18 | 0:41:19 | |
It was actually the BBC journalist Alan Johnston, who was held hostage | 0:41:19 | 0:41:25 | |
for all that time, who was on the 8.10 interview on the BBC, | 0:41:25 | 0:41:29 | |
but someone at Number Ten had heard, | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
"At 8.10, we'll be talking to Alan Johnson." Whoosh... There were... | 0:41:32 | 0:41:36 | |
phone calls everywhere! | 0:41:36 | 0:41:38 | |
So you certainly weren't allowed to kind of, without Number Ten | 0:41:38 | 0:41:42 | |
knowing about it, be doing major radio or TV interviews. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:46 | |
When Johnson became Home Secretary two years ago, almost his first act | 0:41:46 | 0:41:51 | |
was to see that his four Spads would | 0:41:51 | 0:41:53 | |
have proper accommodation next to his own room and Private Office. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:58 | |
Let me go and have a look where they are. | 0:41:58 | 0:41:59 | |
-OK. -I need to know my Spads are comfortable. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
They are, actually. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:04 | |
Oh... | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
Johnson discovered that his Spads would have the room next door. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
I know, we've got a sofa... | 0:42:12 | 0:42:14 | |
-Look at that! -Excitement! | 0:42:14 | 0:42:16 | |
That's not too bad actually, is it? | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
We promise not to use your loo when you're not there. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
Yeah, that's great. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:26 | |
Can you remember, you were concerned about the office for your | 0:42:26 | 0:42:30 | |
special advisers and kept saying, "Where are my Spads going to sit?" | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
-Do you remember any of that? -Er, yeah, I do, because, | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
you know, I'd been to places where the Spads were kind of | 0:42:36 | 0:42:40 | |
down the end of a very long corridor and a long way from you, and I'd been | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
in places where they were very close to me but in a little hovel. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:48 | |
I mean, I wanted to make sure they were properly looked after. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
So, yes, that was a question - | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
a very important question - about how the mechanics... | 0:42:54 | 0:42:56 | |
They were actually through another door | 0:42:56 | 0:42:59 | |
in a very nice room, probably the best accommodation they've ever had. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:03 | |
Far too posh for them, in my view, but | 0:43:03 | 0:43:05 | |
they were through the door. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:07 | |
So we had kind of connecting doors, | 0:43:07 | 0:43:09 | |
we were in touch with each other, and that was important. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:11 | |
What is the role of the Spad? | 0:43:11 | 0:43:14 | |
Well, I guess it depends on the relationship with the minister, | 0:43:14 | 0:43:17 | |
but for me, it was always you're the eyes and ears of your minister... | 0:43:17 | 0:43:21 | |
along with the Private Office, you are that | 0:43:21 | 0:43:24 | |
barrier between the minister and an outside world that wants to, in many | 0:43:24 | 0:43:29 | |
respects, try and make your life much more difficult than it is, | 0:43:29 | 0:43:33 | |
or frustrate you in your objectives. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:35 | |
So you are an adviser on policy, you are an adviser on communications, | 0:43:35 | 0:43:40 | |
and you are an adviser - and this is where it changes from | 0:43:40 | 0:43:43 | |
the civil service - you are an adviser on political strategy, | 0:43:43 | 0:43:48 | |
and you can be party political and you're allowed to be. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:51 | |
And it's very important that you can do that, so that | 0:43:51 | 0:43:55 | |
you send the right signals and messages out to the public | 0:43:55 | 0:43:57 | |
in terms of what you're trying to achieve as a political party. | 0:43:57 | 0:44:00 | |
Part of it is ensuring that you don't | 0:44:00 | 0:44:02 | |
just become a little enclave where the only people you | 0:44:02 | 0:44:04 | |
talk to are your special advisers. You have to bring other people in. | 0:44:04 | 0:44:07 | |
The sensible Secretary of State will have their | 0:44:07 | 0:44:09 | |
Principal Private Secretary in with the special advisers. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:13 | |
They can't get involved in the political discussions | 0:44:13 | 0:44:15 | |
but they're there listening. The Principal Private Secretary | 0:44:15 | 0:44:18 | |
then works much better with the special advisers and as a result, | 0:44:18 | 0:44:20 | |
so does the whole department. | 0:44:20 | 0:44:23 | |
If special advisers | 0:44:23 | 0:44:25 | |
act purely with the minister and lock out | 0:44:25 | 0:44:29 | |
Private Office, lock out the rest of | 0:44:29 | 0:44:31 | |
the civil service, if the Secretary of State colludes in that, you will | 0:44:31 | 0:44:34 | |
have a disastrous department and a very unsuccessful Secretary of State. | 0:44:34 | 0:44:39 | |
The new Labour Transport Secretary, Stephen Byers, brought in his own | 0:44:39 | 0:44:43 | |
personally appointed special adviser called Jo Moore. | 0:44:43 | 0:44:48 | |
She alienated the Private Office by what they saw as her bullying style. | 0:44:48 | 0:44:52 | |
The department had become hugely controversial. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:55 | |
In a notorious e-mail on the day of the 9/11 attacks in Manhattan, | 0:44:55 | 0:45:00 | |
Jo Moore wrote it would be a very good day to get out any bad news | 0:45:00 | 0:45:04 | |
the Ministry wanted to bury. | 0:45:04 | 0:45:05 | |
The e-mail was sent to Alun Evans, | 0:45:05 | 0:45:08 | |
who'd been Principal Private Secretary | 0:45:08 | 0:45:10 | |
and was now the Transport Ministry's Director of Communications. | 0:45:10 | 0:45:14 | |
I was surprised. | 0:45:15 | 0:45:18 | |
It was a very unusual e-mail to have sent, I seem to recall. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:22 | |
But what did you think at that stage when you got an e-mail like that, | 0:45:22 | 0:45:25 | |
-"This would be a good day to bury bad news?" -I was shocked by it. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:29 | |
Mr Byers, can you look up, please? | 0:45:29 | 0:45:31 | |
The political pressure on Stephen Byers had increased dramatically | 0:45:31 | 0:45:35 | |
after Jo Moore's e-mail was leaked from the Ministry to the media. | 0:45:35 | 0:45:38 | |
Is that all right with you, sir? | 0:45:38 | 0:45:40 | |
-No, get them out. -Yes. | 0:45:40 | 0:45:42 | |
Would you mind, please? Just move out of here, please. | 0:45:42 | 0:45:45 | |
But Byers refused to sack Jo Moore, and she was kept hidden away until | 0:45:45 | 0:45:50 | |
it was decided she should make a ritual public apology. | 0:45:50 | 0:45:54 | |
I'd like to sincerely apologise for the huge offence that I caused | 0:45:55 | 0:45:59 | |
by sending the e-mail. | 0:45:59 | 0:46:01 | |
I can well understand the disgust people will feel with what I wrote. | 0:46:01 | 0:46:05 | |
I very much wish I hadn't written it. | 0:46:05 | 0:46:07 | |
In fact, I find it difficult to believe that I did write it. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:10 | |
Byers now faced calls to resign, as he stuck by Jo Moore. | 0:46:12 | 0:46:16 | |
And there was open conflict within the Ministry. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:20 | |
I think that the furore around that was actually a reflection of the | 0:46:20 | 0:46:25 | |
fact that the relationship between the Special Advisers' Office | 0:46:25 | 0:46:28 | |
and the civil service at the time was a poor one. | 0:46:28 | 0:46:31 | |
And from what I know from the background to that, | 0:46:31 | 0:46:35 | |
there was perhaps some high-handed activity on the part of | 0:46:35 | 0:46:39 | |
the special advisers there towards civil servants, | 0:46:39 | 0:46:41 | |
and civil servants then used the opportunity to get their revenge | 0:46:41 | 0:46:45 | |
in the best way possible, you know, as a dish served cold. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:50 | |
Ministry officials leaked stories about Jo Moore's behaviour. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:55 | |
The leaks were so damaging | 0:46:55 | 0:46:57 | |
that the top mandarin at Transport, Sir Richard Mottram, used the | 0:46:57 | 0:47:00 | |
strongest language to describe how bad the whole affair had been. | 0:47:00 | 0:47:04 | |
-I've nothing to say. -Could you understand why | 0:47:04 | 0:47:07 | |
Richard Mottram said, "We're fucked, you're fucked, we're all fucked"? | 0:47:07 | 0:47:10 | |
Well, Richard, in Mottram-esque language, was capturing the | 0:47:10 | 0:47:15 | |
predicament the department was in at that time. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:18 | |
But I suppose in a way, that was | 0:47:18 | 0:47:20 | |
seen as the epitome of how a special adviser thinks... | 0:47:20 | 0:47:26 | |
It was, but I would say that was a great exception to the way many | 0:47:26 | 0:47:30 | |
special advisers work in the fact that there are one or two examples | 0:47:30 | 0:47:34 | |
where the relationship went wrong or, in that case, spectacularly wrong. | 0:47:34 | 0:47:37 | |
I don't think that takes away from the importance | 0:47:37 | 0:47:40 | |
of the special adviser role. | 0:47:40 | 0:47:42 | |
Jo Moore was on her bike, forced to resign, as was her minister. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:48 | |
Number Ten said there'd been "civil war" in the Ministry. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:52 | |
Although the number of special advisers had grown sharply | 0:47:52 | 0:47:55 | |
under New Labour, they weren't a New Labour invention. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:58 | |
There had been earlier spectacular examples | 0:47:58 | 0:48:00 | |
of how Spads could rupture relations not just within | 0:48:00 | 0:48:05 | |
a Ministry, but between departments, right up to the top of government. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:10 | |
One celebrated case involved the Treasury and Number Ten. | 0:48:10 | 0:48:14 | |
Professor Alan Walters, | 0:48:14 | 0:48:16 | |
a right-wing market economist, who'd been brought into Number Ten | 0:48:16 | 0:48:19 | |
by Margaret Thatcher, was to be her Special adviser on Economics. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:24 | |
But the Chancellor, Nigel Lawson, who'd begun as | 0:48:24 | 0:48:27 | |
a Mrs Thatcher favourite, came to resent Walters going | 0:48:27 | 0:48:29 | |
public with views on the economy, which differed sharply from his own. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:34 | |
The markets didn't know whether to believe what | 0:48:34 | 0:48:37 | |
the Chancellor was saying because, was that really the Government's | 0:48:37 | 0:48:40 | |
policy, or was the Government's policy a different policy, | 0:48:40 | 0:48:42 | |
which they were getting from the Prime Minister's personal adviser? | 0:48:42 | 0:48:45 | |
And that made it impossible, I felt, for me to do my job properly. | 0:48:45 | 0:48:49 | |
He objected to my having the Prime Minister's ear, and on pouring what | 0:48:49 | 0:48:55 | |
he regarded as poison down it, what I regarded as the truth. | 0:48:55 | 0:48:59 | |
Lawson delivered an ultimatum | 0:48:59 | 0:49:01 | |
to Mrs Thatcher, saying she had to choose between himself and Walters. | 0:49:01 | 0:49:07 | |
Nigel knocked me down with a feather. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:10 | |
For a Chancellor of the Exchequer with all of the importance and | 0:49:10 | 0:49:15 | |
reputation of that position to come to me and say, "Unless you sack one | 0:49:15 | 0:49:22 | |
"of your most loyal advisers, I will resign," I couldn't believe it! | 0:49:22 | 0:49:27 | |
I hated resigning. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:32 | |
It was certainly the last thing I wanted to do. | 0:49:32 | 0:49:34 | |
# There's a man that lives next door in my neighbourhood | 0:49:36 | 0:49:42 | |
# In my neighbourhood | 0:49:42 | 0:49:45 | |
# He gets me down... | 0:49:45 | 0:49:47 | |
The fraught relations between Tony Blair and Gordon Brown | 0:49:47 | 0:49:50 | |
were made worse over a decade by anonymous attacks by each side's | 0:49:50 | 0:49:55 | |
special advisers on the other. | 0:49:55 | 0:49:57 | |
One briefing dramatically raised the stakes. | 0:49:59 | 0:50:01 | |
A top-level Number Ten source with a good claim to know the mind of | 0:50:01 | 0:50:05 | |
the Prime Minister, described Gordon Brown as psychologically flawed. | 0:50:05 | 0:50:10 | |
The Brownites, including Ed Balls and the spin doctor Charlie Whelan, | 0:50:10 | 0:50:14 | |
reacted angrily. | 0:50:14 | 0:50:17 | |
Gordon Brown was very upset, | 0:50:17 | 0:50:18 | |
and rightly so, because that's not the sort of thing that you expect | 0:50:18 | 0:50:25 | |
from Number Ten. | 0:50:25 | 0:50:27 | |
So he was very upset. | 0:50:27 | 0:50:29 | |
Where do you think the psychologically flawed came from? | 0:50:29 | 0:50:32 | |
According to the people who've | 0:50:32 | 0:50:34 | |
written about these things, it came from Alastair Campbell. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:35 | |
That's certainly where we thought it came from. | 0:50:35 | 0:50:38 | |
Well, that's not true. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:39 | |
-It's not true? -No, it's not true. -You didn't say that? -No. -Really? | 0:50:39 | 0:50:43 | |
No. Yeah, absolutely not true. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:44 | |
-You did not say that? -No. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:47 | |
-Um, you surprise me. -Well, there you are. | 0:50:47 | 0:50:50 | |
You get surprised by a lot of things, Michael. | 0:50:50 | 0:50:52 | |
While New Labour's top two attempted a public show of unity, the Spads, | 0:50:54 | 0:50:59 | |
in their Private Offices, escalated the war of smear and counter smear. | 0:50:59 | 0:51:04 | |
When Matthew Taylor - a new Political Strategy Adviser - | 0:51:06 | 0:51:08 | |
arrived at Number Ten, he sought to negotiate | 0:51:08 | 0:51:11 | |
a peace treaty between the warring Private Offices of the tribes. | 0:51:11 | 0:51:16 | |
One of my many examples of naivety going into Number Ten was thinking | 0:51:16 | 0:51:21 | |
that I could overcome the Gordon Brown-Tony Blair conflict, that I | 0:51:21 | 0:51:24 | |
was somebody who liked Tony personally, absolutely understood | 0:51:24 | 0:51:28 | |
what a brilliant politician he was, but actually had a bit more sympathy | 0:51:28 | 0:51:30 | |
for Gordon and his kind of Social-Democratic credentials. | 0:51:30 | 0:51:33 | |
I was the person to bring peace to this! And I remember every week, | 0:51:33 | 0:51:36 | |
I used to go for a walk in the park | 0:51:36 | 0:51:37 | |
for the first few months with Ed Miliband, who was working for Gordon. | 0:51:37 | 0:51:41 | |
We'd walk round the park and I would try and be as open and discursive | 0:51:41 | 0:51:44 | |
with Ed as I possibly could about what Number Ten was doing. | 0:51:44 | 0:51:46 | |
I would say, you know, I'm not sure Tony's right about this, I'm trying | 0:51:46 | 0:51:48 | |
to persuade him on this one and that one and the other. | 0:51:48 | 0:51:51 | |
And we'd get to the end of the walk, coming out of St James's Park, | 0:51:51 | 0:51:54 | |
and there'd be a pause and I'd wait for Ed to share with me | 0:51:54 | 0:51:57 | |
what was happening in the Treasury and where Gordon's persuasions were | 0:51:57 | 0:52:00 | |
and where his preferences lay, and there'd be nothing. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:04 | |
Ed would just say, "Thanks for that," and he would disappear back into | 0:52:04 | 0:52:07 | |
the Treasury. So I did that for a few weeks | 0:52:07 | 0:52:09 | |
and then came to realise it was pretty futile. | 0:52:09 | 0:52:12 | |
The war reached new levels of resentment and vehemence, | 0:52:14 | 0:52:17 | |
as relations between Ten and Eleven went into meltdown. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:22 | |
Can you understand why it is that special advisers are seen as part of | 0:52:22 | 0:52:25 | |
the blackouts and the dirty-tricks department, | 0:52:25 | 0:52:28 | |
and smearing people, including their own colleagues? | 0:52:28 | 0:52:32 | |
Well, I think... I mean, that did go | 0:52:32 | 0:52:36 | |
on and I know it went on under Labour when we were in government. | 0:52:36 | 0:52:42 | |
Not systematically, there were | 0:52:42 | 0:52:45 | |
-individuals who were motivated to do that. -Why have you stood down? | 0:52:45 | 0:52:48 | |
The macho style of some prominent New Labour spin doctors like | 0:52:48 | 0:52:52 | |
Charlie Whelan and Alastair Campbell was taken to a new level | 0:52:52 | 0:52:56 | |
by Damian McBride. | 0:52:56 | 0:52:58 | |
His proposed sex-smear e-mails against top Tories | 0:52:58 | 0:53:02 | |
made The Thick Of It seem more documentary than satire. | 0:53:02 | 0:53:05 | |
Do not make this a disciplinary issue, do you hear me, soldier?! | 0:53:05 | 0:53:10 | |
I found her! I found... | 0:53:10 | 0:53:12 | |
She was on the fuckin' news! Get this guy out of here! | 0:53:12 | 0:53:15 | |
-This is not a fuckin' discussion! -Right, nobody argue, OK? | 0:53:15 | 0:53:18 | |
I am going to go in there and I am going to take... | 0:53:18 | 0:53:21 | |
-No, you're fuckin' not! -Fuck off! -Oh, fuck... | 0:53:21 | 0:53:23 | |
-Jesus Christ! -You've hurt yourself. | 0:53:23 | 0:53:26 | |
Oh, I've got so much on as it is! | 0:53:26 | 0:53:29 | |
-You hit me! -I did not hit you. | 0:53:29 | 0:53:31 | |
I'm going to hit the fuckin' wall and pull my fist back and hit you in | 0:53:31 | 0:53:34 | |
the fuckin' face instead. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:36 | |
-I think you've broken my nose! -No, that's my just a scratch, mate. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:40 | |
How accurate a portrayal do you think The Thick Of It is? | 0:53:40 | 0:53:43 | |
Well, I think there are a few I can remember who actually | 0:53:43 | 0:53:47 | |
would model themselves on the Malcolm Tucker character, | 0:53:47 | 0:53:52 | |
who actually see that as the way you do things. But that wouldn't be me. | 0:53:52 | 0:53:58 | |
My goal was to have good relationships with Private Office, | 0:53:58 | 0:54:02 | |
because they're that line of defence for your minister | 0:54:02 | 0:54:05 | |
against the wider civil service and the media and the world. | 0:54:05 | 0:54:08 | |
The first ever televised Leaders' Debates dominated | 0:54:10 | 0:54:13 | |
last year's General Election. | 0:54:13 | 0:54:15 | |
Facing Gordon Brown were two former Spads, David Cameron and Nick Clegg. | 0:54:15 | 0:54:22 | |
Journalists watched the debate in the media centre | 0:54:22 | 0:54:24 | |
that became known as "Spin Alley". | 0:54:24 | 0:54:28 | |
Three men, each of whom wants to be our next Prime Minister. | 0:54:28 | 0:54:32 | |
Every promise you hear from each of us this evening depends | 0:54:32 | 0:54:36 | |
on one thing, a strong economy... | 0:54:36 | 0:54:40 | |
The New Labour spadocracy followed the debate in a private room. | 0:54:40 | 0:54:43 | |
Get the positions right now | 0:54:43 | 0:54:45 | |
and we can have secure jobs, we can have standards of living rising... | 0:54:45 | 0:54:49 | |
As the debate ended, Alastair Campbell and Peter Mandelson, | 0:54:49 | 0:54:52 | |
Labour's campaign manager, sought to spin | 0:54:52 | 0:54:54 | |
the journalists against Cameron. | 0:54:54 | 0:54:56 | |
It's precisely that sort of arrogance, that sense of entitlement | 0:54:56 | 0:55:01 | |
that Mr Cameron exudes. | 0:55:01 | 0:55:04 | |
George Osborne, Cameron's fellow ex-Spad, was also spinning. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:08 | |
Osborne was briefing Ben Brogan, | 0:55:15 | 0:55:16 | |
Political Editor of the Conservative Daily Telegraph. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:19 | |
Ben, Ben, Ben? | 0:55:19 | 0:55:22 | |
Tell George what to say... | 0:55:22 | 0:55:23 | |
INDISTINCT | 0:55:23 | 0:55:26 | |
Go on... No, George, don't be put off your stride. | 0:55:26 | 0:55:28 | |
Come on. | 0:55:28 | 0:55:30 | |
But back in his Whitehall Ministry, on the eve of the General Election, | 0:55:35 | 0:55:39 | |
Peter Mandelson, the prototype political adviser | 0:55:39 | 0:55:43 | |
who'd become Gordon Brown's highest-ranking minister, | 0:55:43 | 0:55:45 | |
prepared to thank the civil servants who ran his Private Office. | 0:55:45 | 0:55:49 | |
I've got some very, very good news... | 0:55:49 | 0:55:51 | |
Win or lose, I could just stay! | 0:55:51 | 0:55:56 | |
Obviously, if we win, it would be business as usual and I could just | 0:55:56 | 0:56:00 | |
take decisions, sign warrants, dispense money like a Bourbon king! | 0:56:00 | 0:56:05 | |
If we don't win, | 0:56:05 | 0:56:07 | |
I still stay, but help whoever comes in. | 0:56:07 | 0:56:11 | |
I'm not able to go round the whole department | 0:56:11 | 0:56:14 | |
thanking everyone individually, | 0:56:14 | 0:56:17 | |
but I can thank you because you've been so wonderful for me. | 0:56:17 | 0:56:21 | |
You've just supported me and just given me the time of my life. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:25 | |
The election saw the triumph of the Spads, who now held the two | 0:56:29 | 0:56:33 | |
highest offices in the land. | 0:56:33 | 0:56:35 | |
And another Spad graduate from | 0:56:39 | 0:56:41 | |
Private Office was the new Chancellor. | 0:56:41 | 0:56:43 | |
And four out of five of the candidates for the job of | 0:56:47 | 0:56:50 | |
Leader of the Opposition to Osborne, Clegg and Cameron were also Spads. | 0:56:50 | 0:56:55 | |
Ed Miliband received 19.934%. | 0:56:55 | 0:57:01 | |
Ed Miliband had beaten his older brother. | 0:57:01 | 0:57:03 | |
Ed had worked in | 0:57:03 | 0:57:04 | |
Gordon Brown's Private Office, while David had worked for Blair. | 0:57:04 | 0:57:07 | |
Like Cameron, the brothers had read | 0:57:07 | 0:57:09 | |
PPE at Oxford, as had fellow Spad Ed Balls, who became Shadow Chancellor. | 0:57:09 | 0:57:15 | |
Ed Miliband. | 0:57:16 | 0:57:17 | |
MPS: Hear, hear! | 0:57:17 | 0:57:19 | |
Speaker, I do say to him, there is increasing concern | 0:57:19 | 0:57:23 | |
about the Government's competence. | 0:57:23 | 0:57:25 | |
Mr Speaker, does the Prime Minister think it's just a problem with the | 0:57:25 | 0:57:28 | |
Foreign Secretary, or is it a wider problem in his government? | 0:57:28 | 0:57:32 | |
First of all, he raises the issue of the Foreign Secretary. | 0:57:32 | 0:57:35 | |
Let me tell you, I think we have an excellent Foreign Secretary. | 0:57:35 | 0:57:37 | |
CHEERING | 0:57:37 | 0:57:39 | |
And when it comes to it, there's only one person I can remember round | 0:57:39 | 0:57:44 | |
here knifing a Foreign Secretary, and I think I'm looking at him! | 0:57:44 | 0:57:49 | |
CHEERING | 0:57:49 | 0:57:52 | |
Over the past 50 years, the arrival of the special | 0:57:53 | 0:57:57 | |
advisers has dramatically altered the balance of power in Whitehall. | 0:57:57 | 0:58:01 | |
The new professional political class | 0:58:01 | 0:58:03 | |
that cut its teeth in the Private Offices | 0:58:03 | 0:58:06 | |
and was famously characterised as "the people who live in the dark" | 0:58:06 | 0:58:09 | |
has grown to take over the reins of power. | 0:58:09 | 0:58:12 | |
In constitutional theory, the Head of Government was first | 0:58:12 | 0:58:15 | |
among equals, but these days, the Prime Minister of Britain | 0:58:15 | 0:58:18 | |
is first among Spads. | 0:58:18 | 0:58:21 | |
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